THEMOVE - Uno-X Keeps Their Five-Star Tour Rolling on the Tour's Fastest Stage | TdF 2026 Stage 11 | THEMOVE

Episode Date: July 15, 2026

Lance, Johan, George, Sir Bradley, and Spencer Martin (aka The Professor) break down Søren Wærenskjold's sprint win on Stage 11 of the 2026 Tour de France during the Tour's fastest ever stage and how Uno-X continues to show how aggressive racing can still net results for non-superteams. They go through how Biniam Girmay continues to close the gap on Pedersen in the battle for the Green Jersey, preview tomorrow's Stage 12, take listener calls, and answer yesterday's Ventum trivia before giving out a new trivia question. Become a WEDŪ Member Today to Unlock VIP Access & Benefits: https://access.wedu.team Roka: The Move listeners get 20% off. Just go to https://ROKA.com and enter code THEMOVE at checkout.  LMNT: Get a free 8-count Sample Pack of LMNT's most popular drink mix flavors with any purchase at https://DrinkLMNT.com/TheMove Kineon: Use code THEMOVE for $50 off or go to https://kineon.io/THEMOVE Ventum: Use code TheMove10 for 10% off anything at: https://ventumracing.com/ Eight Sleep: Use code THEMOVE at https://eightsleep.com/themove for up to $350 off. 30 days to try it at home. Free returns if it's not for you.

Jonas looked good at the Giro. It's also his fourth straight, it's the fourth straight grand tour that he's done consecutively. That seems a little. Yeah, we actually haven't really broken down his numbers in this tour. Like, he's arguably probably doing better numbers than he ever has. Well, we did on the tourmalet. He broke his own record. He broke his own record by what?

A lot. A lot. I mean, there was all the headlines were about Todet setting the fastest time ever over the tourmalet. Well, Bingoard came over second. He had the previous best time. I mean, he smashed his record as well. Welcome back to the Moop Podcast. I am Lance Armstrong, joined by Sir Bradley Wiggins.

Mr. George Hinkapy, the professor, Spencer Martin. I will say, just fair warning, everybody. Mr. Wiggins is in one today. He's on a moot. He's a little snarky today. Oh, boy? I mean, I just see him. know I love it like I get to sit here for I showed up late today that's a whole

another reason but when I did show up I was like whoa hope he's like this on the show yeah I love it I mean I think it's highly entertaining keep it up man all right thank you you you went for an early morning bike ride today didn't you I did George texted me what did I got write you back last night well you didn't write me back this morning either I did texted you about no last night you were like what a good to the gym and then you hit hit me back uh this morning said are you going to go to the gym and i said and i said i think i'm going to sneak out for an early bike ride i can't i find it hard i i put so much into this show do any of the viewers see that as an invitation or just like a statement i'm going to go for

a bike listen i was being serious and we are going to talk about the bike race believe or not at some point but i put so much into this show i exert so much that afterwards there's just kind of this collapse. Yes. And so it's hard for me to then rally. Like yesterday, I went home and shammied up and went for a bike ride and I was like, ugh, I felt horrible. I said, I'm not doing that again. I see a flat day. I kind of was watching when I was drinking my coffee. I'm like, you know what? I don't think I'm going to miss anything. I'm going to sneak out. I went to an hour and 10 minutes, just straight uphill, straight downhill. So, road or mountain? Mountain bike. Where do you go? Smoking. I went up Ty Hack all, you know, top of buttermilk and then bombed down, band of trail.

Was it less dusty because of the rain? The last day and time we did it was super dusty. Yeah, it was maybe a little better. Yeah, anyways. Talking about stage 11, Alan, what did we do? Stage 11, from Vichy to Nevers. From Vichy to Nevaer. What are you guys?

I mean, is Alan is just in deep morning today? Oh, yeah. I was thinking about him yesterday. I think he's because this boy likes soccer. He loves soccer. He must be curled up in a fetal position. What happened? My man, Mbapé.

That was a beat down. Same thing happened in 2024 at Euros, where Spain knocks him out in the semis. I mean, I don't know what I'm talking about, but apparently Spain is very good at possession. And then France needs to have the ball to do what they do. So Spain can kind of lock them down by keeping the ball. And apparently great defense as well. Wow. Yeah.

That was a big job. said. However, today... In fact, that may be why he is fired up. Just firing on all cylinders. Big day-to-day, England versus Argentina. Come on, England. We'll all be at the

house watching that thing. Huge rivalry. There's a lot of history between these countries. Political as well. Yes. Well, people are trying to make it political. You've seen the coach giving interviews this week saying it's just a football match. It's just a football match. So that's the Argentinian coach, by the way.

But yeah, there was burning, interestingly, I saw on social media, there was a lot of Argentinian fans burning Union Jacks, which is not actually the right flag. I actually had a question about that. I thought that I don't understand how the, I don't know. I'm always like, okay, Great Britain is playing somebody. But then there's all these other. Yeah, we got Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland and England. Which is confusing, though, but in the Olympics, it's Great Britain. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, stage 11, first of all, and I think we have now confirmed this, Spencer, the fastest stage in the history of the Tour de France. Is that been confirmed? There was some debate.

The previous fastest was 1999, stage 1 by Mario Chipolini. And I think we only went like 0.1.2 kilometers an hour faster, which is in our winter. guys and y'all know if you watch the show listening to the show like we're horrible with names it took us like five years to figure out how to pronounce yonis his last name in fact i'm not even sure i don't think we've gotten it there yet um but i'll i'll attempt it soren okay here let's pull it up on the stage or on the screen here soren warenskullt oh that's good that's good but and if you're watching the show help me and if you're scandinavian i got i got you the first name. Soren. We know plenty of sorens. What is that thing the second? Is that a, is that two letters or is that one letter? It looks like a backwards A and an E got married. So I don't know how that sounds. That's his brand. That's not a bad, well, that's not a bad brand. Active energy. What a race for Uno X though. Yellow Jersey, stage win, second in the stage. I mean, they can go home

today and be happy. They could leave the tour. They could do nothing. I mean, they've had a five-star tour. this is, you know, I mean, it's still a decent budget, but one of the smallest budgets in the tour. You've had, uh, got some flak the other day from the organization for posting videos of them sleeping on the balcony. They did. Yeah, they got, you know what? When the videos went, but, but coming out of the stage went, I mean, that, that's good news for everybody. But come on. So, yeah, the fastest stage of any tour de France.

What was going on in the last 700 meters? It's probably the slowest part of the stage. Yeah. And it's really, and it's really, which is actually a big reason why so, uh, uh, so on one. because he even said he was way too far back. The other race that he won was Umluck, um, um luck,

um, head vogue, which is a very hard, you know, semi-classic race. And he won, he was a surprise winner, but he said the same exact thing.

He was stuck far behind. And that's sprinting, y'all. It sometimes is a lot of luck involved in sprinting. That hole that he went through with about 150 meters ago, that normally never happened. That hole will never open up. That would be like 350 meters. Or 350 meters ago.

He went through it. It was essentially attack. It wasn't even a sprint. And had the luck. luck of Kay's Bowl being 20 meters at the road. So he got his drafts out on that for about half a second. And that's all he needed to win that stage. I mean, that was a super impressive win, but also a lot of luck involved in that win.

Yeah. Well, I mean, I think you mentioned this, Spencer, he's, at least when he won had Volki, he was 205 pounds. I think he slum down to 202 pounds. So that is, that is, that is, that is heavy for a cyclist, one of the tallest riders in the Peloton, but for you people that nerd out on Watts, you imagine the Watts that a 202-pound guy was putting out for 300, it would be... Even imagine yesterday trying to make the time cut? Huge difference.

Like on a mountain? Holy smokes. Also, if you claim, oh, I got to lose weight. That's why I'm slow. It's like, well, this guy's went into a stage at 202 pounds. So suck it up. Wait, did you guys remember stage 11 last year, UnoX won as well? Yeah, it's Aubrey.

Yeah. Another thing to point out, too, is I guess he crashed yesterday. Yes. So he said he felt horrible in the beginning. I mean, that's another unique thing about a grand tour and a grand tour rider is like, you don't always feel great. Especially a lot of times, a lot of times, in fact, you don't feel great at the start. And then you kind of work your way into it. And after 10 days of racing the Tour de France, everybody's kind of in this zone where their body's going to perform in a race and do what they need them to do.

So he was surprised as anybody for the win. And Ben Wiggins wanted me to point out. Every sprint at this tour has come from behind. It's like what Bradley is saying. It's just stalls out at the front. And like the winners are always coming from deep in the field. Yeah. This seemed like a bit of an exception.

I mean, he really took a risk. He did. You know, and if you go back and watch the replay, watch that helicopter shot. I mean, he just sent it. He didn't hit his brakes. There was a small gap. And he went. You still got to go.

Like this is, this is. And they couldn't, I mean, look, I guess there's a world up the finish line is 30 meters further down the road, they probably come around it. But that's not where the finish line was. And so I thought it was a cool win. But I feel like people don't assess risk correctly a lot of times because if he doesn't do it, he's not going to win anyway. So the upside is the win, but if you don't do it, you're going to lose anyway.

Well, it's not so much the risk. It's like the fear. I mean, you have, he had no room. It was the base of the barricades and the rider next one. And he could have got along too. And he maybe had a couple millimeters on each side. So there's a high probability. that's going to cause a crash.

Of course. But he just took that chance, no fear, didn't think about it, and just saw that hole. Like the holes these sprinters see way bigger than like a normal average pro cyclist can see. Yeah. Zero hesitation. Yeah. I mean, I remember you, you always asked me about the stage in 1993 into Burdun, my first stage. You came up on the barrier, didn't you?

I came up on the barrier. And I saw, and I came here for Pensac or Perini coming over on me. And I thought, oh, I don't know if I can make this. And I actually yelled. I just made it. I just kind of yelled a little just so they could hear me and just startled, you know, start a little, but just hesitate a little. And he hesitated.

And I went and I, you know, I squeezed through. Same thing today. Now, you're right. I mean, he's not hitting the brakes. If that guy just keeps coming over, decides to come over. Totally different. Nonetheless, it didn't happen. Let's do our eight sleep move of the day.

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They can't run them in hotel rooms. but they had the eight sleeps, so it was no problem. And you posted a different temperature that they slept on, right? Or do you did or did you on? That was Johan, okay, got John. Yeah, we can follow their temperatures. Tim Hollins is sleeping. Yeah, he's like, yeah, it's like super chilly.

Next, next up for these teams, forget mobile kitchens, mobile dining rooms, cooling mattresses, generators. We need the hotel. That's fire up the generator. They should just start camping, I think. We're going to show the day. We're going to show something, aren't we? Move of the day.

Move of the day. Bradley. I was going to go with one of the lead-out guys today, but I've changed my mind. That's an inside joke. And I'm going to go with the winner of the day, Sauron Wigowski. Sorong Walskold. Just because they're the underdogs in this race, and they have been putting it to the rest of the Peloton. They always take the chance, inspired by.

Norwegian football and of course to a hush of dudes there, man. So hats off to him. Yeah, I gotta go with you, Bradley. That win was epic. The team has been riding super well together. You just see the culture and the vibe that team has going.

I think in today's day and age when it's all about numbers and data, wearables and tracking everything. Like at some point, you've got to have some fun along the way as well and feel good about the people that you're racing bikes with and you can see that coming to fruition

in this team. I'm going to piggyback off that, George. Because, yeah, they've been attacking randomly on sprint stages. Everyone's like, what are they doing? But it's building this mentality in the team of we can do whatever we like. They were a wild card last year, wouldn't they? Yeah. Yeah.

And so they've really took it, you know. And there's teams at this race that we won't mention their names, but they are doing F all. Yeah. And so to see. Like the Obama, FDJ. That is. With big budgets as well. Big budgets.

By the way, has anybody heard from Jimmy Casper? I watched a little documentary about him on. France television the other day. As to what he's up to now. He's a train driver for SMCF. Really? Yeah. Fast as he's over again.

He likes that speed. I'm not going to disagree with all of you all on move of the day. I'm going to give an honorable mention, though, to Binion Germay. He is just... Yeah, he's closing that gap in the room. Let's just mind for you folks that are looking for some other competition in this race that might be close. Yep. And it was helped because Peterson, sorry, Philipson was relegated for whatever reason.

We're still trying to figure that out. Ben-Jermay, 5th. I mean, he's just there. He's just there. The green jersey points are 45-ish. Is that after the relegation or before? That's after. 319 to 276.

Yeah. This is the last, tomorrow is the last real sprint stage. So I guess after that, we're going to have to. you're going to the green jersey is probably going to be some strategic and mads have been up until now stronger on the climbing days where he can make these breakaways let's say it's favor for mads right now but yeah only is really in doubt if he if benyam wins tomorrow then we have a conversation because it's yeah they've just waited it i listened to a little press conference on it but they want to like restore their prestige to the sprint the sprinters and so if you win you get a ton of

points, like significantly more than second place. Yeah, worth noting Matt's Peterson did get 10th today. So he's not, he's not missing out on points. He's getting some points. Boy, one of those stages, I don't know. I'm glad I wasn't there going fast. They were going really fast. Sorry to interrupt.

The fast stage before that was Johan's stage or Jippo stage? Chipo stage. And I want to, let's, after we take care of a little business, I do want to, I just, I'm so curious, and I'll just tease this out. Why? It's taken 27 years to have now the fastest stage in the history of the tour. That seems, you know, hold that thought. Today's show also brought to you by Roka. I've been wearing Roka for years. They just keep getting better and better. Whether I'm on the bike, traveling, just every day. They're the sunglasses I keep coming back to. They look incredible, but the optics are what really set them apart. Crystal clear, scratch and fog resistant. lenses and they stay put no matter how much you sweat your face off like me. Everybody who's spent long hours on the bike with me, yeah, you know how important that is. And it's not just cycling glasses anymore. Prescription glasses, prescription sunglasses, readers, all built with the same performance tech.

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com.com. Kenyon.com. Boom. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, look, bikes are so much faster. Let's think about the things that are faster. And we all know that the athletes are way faster. The bikes are faster.

They're more aerodynamic. The wheel technology, the rim technology, the tire technology, the width of the tires, going to tubeless tires, the apparel. I mean, think about it. In 1999, Chippo was wearing, he might have spent half the stage with his jersey unzipped. Yeah. Right? They're basically wearing skin suits now. He did have spinachy wheels, which is about false.

They were. Not only that, there's no guesswork in the courses anymore. everybody's got the software and the vehicles. They know exactly how tough of the corners coming up, how steep the next climb is, which way to take on the roundabout. It's like the guesswork out of that is also not in the equation. So I just think it's kind of mind-boggling.

I mean, I think it's a fun thing to the, I don't know. I mean, it just seems like it almost, it almost feels like you should sort of every year have some stage that is eclipsed the year before. I mean, 27 years, ways I remember. Well, that's happened in Roubaix several times in the last five, six years now. Yeah, that is.

In the one days, it is every year. I mean, because these bites hard to overstate how fast these bikes are, especially like the tires, the tires are so much faster. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was an outlier, the 99 stage four. Like, it's not like every stage in 99 was race that fast. Do we know if they had a tail one?

Well, we had a tail. We were there. Yeah. I don't remember. And I was there. And by the way, the third fastest stage in history was. history was Johann Brunel, our very own Johann Brunel, who won that stage alone the whole day. I mean, ask Johan on your show.

How the fuck did you do that? And Chippo thought he won that day when he crossed the line. He didn't know Johann was away. Johann said he asked him, what are you doing here? He thought he was just a random guy that was there. My, Diqane. That's fine. Yo cane.

Oh. Chippo, you know, guys would say, guys would say. Start attacking. Chippo will be there. I know we're going to go to a break here. It's like, you guys would be attacking. Chippo had this line all the time.

Say, yo, Vian Fuga! Fire and Fuga! He was had all the... And I'm like, I don't know. And he's the boss. Whatever, dude. Fy and Fuga.

I mean, it's going to break away. Anyways, we'll be back in two minutes and 32 seconds. And we are back and we are plugged in. You plugged in? This is not... This is... Except, yeah. Yesterday we had those issues with the bathroom here.

Thanks to Mr. Hinkapi. And Sir Bradley was not able to get up. I thought it was Liz. Liz is back. Liz was gone yesterday. Yesterday would have been the day to blame Liz because she wasn't here. But she's back. You have a good birthday party?

Yeah, great. She got over there on our Ottoman or free Ottoman. People just handing out. People just handing out $1,000 ottomans in NASP in Colorado. Fucked it. I don't want this anymore. I'm going to throw it away. They're legit.

It's like leather, like nice wood. So weird. At first, I kind of thought this was, speaking of weird. I kind of thought this was weird. George sent it on our group chat yesterday. But I got to thinking about it. It just shows you the way the sport has changed, the levels that these teams are going to really to protect the riders and make this race as easy as possible.

I mean, let's not brush over it. This is the hardest or neat event in the world, bar not. I just don't think anything's close. You know, we raced a long time. I can remember early days of swineers like, you want your shammie washed or your shorts? I was a sink and shampoo in the shower. Just go for it.

It starts there and then we got to wash them. Anyways, they're going now. We've talked about mattress covers. Look at what, I believe it was Decahathlon. This is Decahathlon. Look at the prep that they have a dedicated staff for before the riders get to their hotel room. Hello, my, Tomar. Okay, bring it in the custom mattress.

The mattress I get, understand the matthew. What happens after this is a whole new level. And these guys are going, it's a day before. So they go to the hotel. So they get to run the day before, okay. Special pillows. Now he comes in with the backpack of disinfecting. They are disinfecting and wiping down every single thing in that room.

And they have things on airplanes. They don't have these bombs. So this is like a bomb. Like you would put, like if your house had bugs or something. And they disinfect the room. They have the, and then obviously. It makes sense, doesn't it? It does make a perfect sense.

Yeah. It makes perfect sense. It raises the question of, why do they have to do this? Well, like, is Joakovich have a guy that goes in and cleans his room before Wimbledon? I have a feeling Yolkovich is probably rented. Yeah, but these are more susceptible, aren't they? You know, you're racing for six hours daily, your immune system, everything. I mean, we had mattresses.

We had air filter units. We had aircon units. We bring in at Sky. But, I mean, you guys paved the way in so many areas of the sport that we picked up at Sky. You know, US Postal Women's Discovery was revolutionary. in many ways, aerodynamics, all that sort of stuff. Would you do anything to the hotel rooms in your day? No.

No bad covers, pillow, mattress. No. Just what was there? The mattress feels like that would be really important. Mattresses, yeah. A new mattress every night. We had mattresses on HCC. That's kind of nice.

Really? Yeah. Every night. There were like mattress covers. They were like two ones. They covered the thick ones. But yeah, it was helpful. And if you're just listening to the show and you couldn't see this,

these guys were actually, they were bringing in actual mattresses. to the hotel. I mean, there was part of the clip they showed them two guys walking the mattress down the hallway. So if they're doing this the day before, are they having two nights in that hotel? That's a good question. Maybe it's...

The afternoon before they arrive. Yeah. Like maybe the morning of like 9 a.m. But then it does beg the question, are they booking it for the day before? How do you get in a hotel in the morning? Yeah, that's what I don't know. I mean, this guys... Well, they have plenty of time to plan it out. They get the hotels every month or a month or seven.

6, 7 p.m. every night. But we were talking about it off air. You know, it begs the question, the logistics of doing that every day. And we saw some of the social media post from UnoX where they're sleeping on the balcony, things like that. Just let the riders have RVs. It would make so much more. Which is not allowed on the tour, is it? You guys try to do that with Richard.

Well, yeah, David Breltsford actually sleeps in his own RV in the car park of every hotel because he's staff. He's not a rider. But riders is not allowed. But I think one of the reasons for that is that every team wouldn't have access to that. And then you start getting logistics of parking, eight or nine RVs as well as the trucks. And if you've got three or four teams in the same hotel, you can imagine, you know, where did you put these things? Yeah. Yeah.

Take up a lot of point. And then I guess from a whereabouts point of view, you know, so dope controls it early in the morning, things like that, which ride is aware. There's ways that that should not ever be the reason, right? There's ways to locate these riders. Yeah, or you just have a point of contact that says, look, I'm looking for number 173. And that point has to know exactly what. That's not a reason. I heard a whereabouts issue of a rider like snuck off to hook up with something.

And they couldn't find them. True story. It's like a big deal. True story. Well, you know what the great bear Bryant once said. So hell with this. No. That's the second time I've said this in the main.

middle of this tour and everybody's like all right now Lance finally tell us I ain't telling you look it up I can't say a lot of plenty of other bad things on the show I'm not saying that let's look at stage 12

another this is I suppose we could debate whether or not this is the last day for sprinters there's some folks that say well what about Paris I think us collectively think that that is not a true sprint stage anymore with the new circuit. So here we are.

180 kilometers, probably still in the heat. This one looks lumpier. My screen here has it at almost 2,000 meters of climbing. So just kind of all especially the second half, just a little lumpy. Yeah, but again, that first intermediate sprint, 45K, another fast start. Very fast.

He's going to be really fast into that. I mean, today Little Trek let a smaller move go, like three or four riders. I would assume they'll do the same here. That's a long way to control it. but with no breakaway way. That's also adding to the speeds of this race, isn't it? Yeah, right.

Which I guess is something they've done on purpose, AISO? Yeah, I don't know why, actually. Like, is shrinking the race. The race is shrinking. Like, I looked at Pagaccio's total time yesterday. It was like 36 hours. Like, he's going to do this tour in 70 hours. Like, what the hell's going on?

What are he doing in last year? That's okay. I mean, I just remember, like, off the top of my head, Ryder Hazardol did the 2012 zero in 93 hours or something like that. Wow. So it's like almost 20 hours. was shorter. Yeah.

Yeah. See, that's, it's just stuff like that. Stuff to just like that. That's why we have Spencer here. Like, who,

how long, who, that is, but that is so weird. Yeah. That you're like, but you know, hang on a second.

Ryder Hedahl took 93 hours. It was three weeks. I mean, yesterday. But it's, but it makes sense too. Like, but I never thought of that.

Yesterday we were joking about the stage being three and a half hours. It was three hours, right? Today, what was the exact time? I think it was closer to three. I mean, I was getting ready in the morning right when the race started.

I was like, I got to get this stupid. What's the distance? The tool, is you two and a half thousand miles? So it was a three hour long stage today. Three ten. That's fast. This isn't from Johann, by the way. Phillips and back in third today.

It was overturned. Whoa. Thanks, Johan. Okay. So that affects Germai. That affects just a little. I mean, just now they go back to their original placings. They protested the relegation.

Yeah. Okay. Good. 3,289 kilometers would be the total. And time. The time they did last year. Let's check. What's it going to be?

Service says. It's going to be fast. 76 hours. Seventy-six hours. Do you know what the longest tour de France winning time was? Oh, that's, I don't know. 1926, 238 hours. Oh, my God.

Are you kidding? Get out of here. That is insane. But let's just say. How early do you wake up? What is that? So like 2008, everyone's favorite tour, right? 88 hours.

So it is shrinking quite a bit. I keep sort of begging the crew here to one of these days have a discussion about, and y'all know, if you've been a listener for years, well, you know, I love talking, I just like talking about business. And so I love talking about the business of cycling, the business of the tour. I don't hate that. I don't hate it at all. Think about the business of the tour, and we're not going to get into it today because these guys were not very excited to do it.

But when you think about the business of the tour and you think about the business of viewership and the business of media and just content, I think it has to get shorter. Yeah. Right. And that's whether it's obviously riders getting faster, that's going to make it shorter. But the future generations are only going to watch shorter things. I'm not saying it's a good thing. like my children grandchildren they're not you know

but one of these days we're going to get into it I mean there's Euro wall stages that are like they had a 250 kilometer long stage that nothing happened in it's like who is this for it's not good content well back to the preview for tomorrow I mean Philipson has been reinstated for third place and today was the first time he's

printed where he actually didn't really blow up with 200 meters ago he was moving forward so he's going to come out tomorrow firing lots of motivation today we saw Vanipal attacking him making really hard in the beginning of the stage, which I don't know if Lance was probably on his bike, but they had a kind of a different tactic today. But I think tomorrow they'll go back all in on supporting Philipson,

seeing him come back to his normal form. But he did get beat today. He did get beat, but he kind of had to go early to chase that gap down. But he wasn't going backwards. Yeah, he wasn't going backwards. So he's reversing progress. Spencer, did you say there was a chance of rain tomorrow, or was that in future or after tomorrow? I think that's tomorrow, chance of rain, which would really complicate.

It's weird. Like the riders probably sick of being so hot. And there's probably a part of their days like, man, could it just rain? Now, we all know when it hasn't, when it's been hot and it hasn't rained, well, the very worst thing you can have is the first hour of rain and just get your ice skates out. You saw them today sliding around in the breakaway. Yeah. You would have to be. Especially in this part of France, you know, all that goes into that are the types of cars they're driving on this roads, the machinery, just dripping bad stuff.

It's 50% chance of rain. I mean, well, and maybe you just split the difference and they get overcast. Give a little relief. All right. As we have done every day. I think it was every day. Almost every day. Anyways, call us.

Send us, leave us a voicemail. Our number, direct line. 970718-2736. George, you've actually, you've done a call forward. You're not picking those up anymore. It's now going direct to Ben Wiggins. Yep. And he's sifting through him as we speak.

Yeah, Ben Higgins has been here the whole time. I've been making routes for this. Can I talk about this? Yeah, go for. I've been making routes for Ben. I love maps. I love fucking around with Strava. I like, look, going in there, I said, Ben said, I need, you know, I got to do this ride.

I said, stop. I got you. I was making these routes and I send him the route, the GPS file on what's app. And he puts it. And that has been one of the highlights of my July. I'm not kidding. He didn't love, he didn't, I don't know that he loved the first shot I gave. Yesterday he said that was in his top 10 rides of all time.

Okay. Wow. That's amazing. You know what? That makes my day. You love maps more than anyone I know. Maybe you should do the tour rich next year. Dear Mr. Prude Home, I have an idea.

Let me design the route. Click. Caller number one. Hey guys. Steve in Sacramento. Love the show. A question. With all the advances in technology,

why are the race radio's quality still so choppy, breaking up and poor with clarity and sometimes even dropped? It's a good question. George, you have a team now, I'm assuming. You guys are, well, I think it's safe to say that most teams in the Pelt on are buying these radios.

Oh, yeah, we buy them. And so I don't know what they're buying now. Yeah, that was Steve, right? From Sacramento. That's a great question. The technology has not been improved much at all from 20 years when we were using them. Still super hard to understand what the riders are saying. Lots of times they're malfunctioning.

Lots of times like we saw with Pocatra changing radios. Great question. And maybe a good business plan for some people out there to come up with a good radio communication in the bell of time. Is it the case that there is a, I did see one of the team directors talking about when you lose race radio. There's an aeroplane flying over the race,

which is what the transmission bounces off of from each car. And I guess each car has its own ball on, doesn't it? That is, goes up for that. And I think it's a case that the race is moving across the country, whereas with Formula One, it's pretty close to it, it's all in one area and one space. Plus riders are run at 50, 60 kilometres there, aren't they? There's probably no commercial application.

I can't imagine the total addressable market for a race radio is big. So there's probably not a lot of innovation. That's probably why, yeah. Because it must be the same company that makes every race radio. It was back in the day. Hence the reason that Johan could hack into all the other frequencies. And speaks sick languages and understand everybody. By the way, they did it too.

They were hacking. Do we think that still happens, George? Yeah. No, I don't think so. I haven't seen it in a long time. Well, it's, it is a good question, Steve. And it's also a controversial topic from time to time. I mean, you still have folks in cycling that that want to move towards banning race radio, banning power meters.

I even heard recently banning computers, period. That's a, there's a chorus of these folks. I sort of fall in the opposite camp that's like, look, let's. have them, but let's make them public. I love, I mean, if you think about auto racing, whether it's Formula One, NASCAR, I mean, you love hearing in on what the teams are saying to each other. Now, I know what you're going to say. You're going to say, well, then the other teams would know how you're baking up a straight. I know. But it's, it's to me, and again, I'm going to go back to the C word. Content. Yeah. You sickos. Content. I think it's great content. Yeah.

It's an entertainment product. So it's, yeah, I don't really care if teams don't like it because we're here to entertain people and make it more interesting. All right. Caller number two. Hey, guys. Charlie from Central Ohio here. Just curious what you guys think with all the talk of Jonas's demeanor this year and his performance at the tour. One thing I haven't heard mentioned was the loss of his longtime trainer at the beginning of the year. How much do you guys think that this is affecting him? mentally as well as physically

this year. Love to hear what you guys think. We love the pod. Thank you. Spencer, you probably followed that. I mean, I know, I mean, clearly it didn't affect him. I mean, he rode incredibly well to Girol. I mean, he was not even

tested, but the VAM doesn't last. It's like the best power numbers of his life. Right. So physically he is performing, which means he was preparing, you know, for that race, at least, perfectly. I don't know. I mean, I don't follow the comings and goins of trainers. Johan and I did a show on it on the move plus.

Catch us on the move plus. When this happened over the winter, and it was Johan's view that it's not going to matter, right? It's the guy writing the training plan and Jonas is Jonas. I will say, though, it is a trend that a lot of staff is leaving Bisma to go to Little Red Bull and sometimes UAE, which is not like a great, like they used to have this guy, Moraine Zaman, who ran the strategy of the team.

He left, you know, and then Gersha Neiman comes in, and now he's leaving. And then you just like, you kind of worry when you see so many people like that leaving a team. Like, do they not have the ability to financially compete? What exactly is going on there? It looks like a financial thing, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. They get swamped.

They get head hunted by. In terms of performance, though, I think Yonis looked good at the zero. It's also his fourth straight, it's the fourth straight grand tour that he's done consecutively. It is, yeah. that seems a little. Yeah, we actually haven't really broken down his numbers in this tour. Like, he's arguably probably doing better numbers than he ever has. Well, we did on the tour malay.

I mean, he broke his own record. He broke his own record by what? A lot. A lot. I mean, there was all the headlines were about Todade setting the fastest time ever over the tourmalay. Well, Bingo Guard came over second. He had the previous best time. I mean, he smashed his record as well.

Yeah. Yeah. Be funny if this was the trainer calling in like a fake Ohio accent. I think this is central Ohio. Yeah, that is important. What is central Ohio? Columbus. Columbus is dope.

Yeah, good town. That's doing the show from Columbus. My wife and I have a great story about Columbus. That is a true story. That we're not telling on the show. If you're at home watching, you know what I'm talking about. Caller number three. Have we got three callers today?

We have nothing else to talk about. We're going to take another caller. Hi, my name is Blair, and I'm in Flagstaff, Arizona. Curious, since we hear a lot about the physical training that goes into the tour, but we don't hear as much about the mental side. So curious how each of you trained your mind to stay focused, disciplined, and kind of resilient over the three weeks of racing, especially on days when your body are confident wasn't there.

Thanks so much. It is actually, that's an excellent question. It really is. I'll take a little stab and then maybe follow up later. But look, in 2026, this is, you see, you know, it's really been the last five plus years that this conversation. And athletes have actually sort of, I wouldn't, maybe have even led the way when it comes to talking about mental health, talking about mental health struggles. You know, I've always thought of it as sort of mental fitness, like how do we get this? in the perfect place.

But it's, yeah, I mean, you could look at, I mean, we've talked about Jonas's article today on the rest day where he said, well, I thought about retiring. I mean, that, that's not a physical statement. That's a mental, to me, that's a mental statement. Like my head is not into this. My head wants to go do something else or be somewhere else. And I don't know what's, I'm sure, I mean, we just showed people disinfecting the rooms. I'm sure these teams now have one or two people on staff to help riders with the mental game.

Yeah, yeah. I did see what someone talking about that the other day, that they worked on it this winter, seeing a psychologist, and that was what the biggest gain they'd made this year, apart from the physical game. Yeah, I can't remember who it was, but it's an interesting one. I mean, for me, dealing with the tour, it was about familiarity

and, you know, making something familiar. So in that year, we knew that if we were going to leave, the race at the Tour de France and all the pressure that comes with leading the race, post-tour interviews, post-stage interviews, dope control, you know, handling the world's media while you're leading the race. And the question that came every day was, can you hold on to the yellow jersey? You know, familiarity. So I went to Paranese that year, led for six days, went to the Tour O'Oamondi, led for five days,

went to the Dofinae, led for seven days. So being in yellow and everyone getting used to it and understanding what the demands were after each stage in by taking yellow, when we got to the tour, it became. became familiar. So that was the only way I handled it. But one thing I will say is with the altitude camps that was, you know, in between those races that year, missing kids' birthdays,

missing, you know, family occasions that there was in my mind, there was no way I would ever go back to a tour again with that level of intensity. One was enough. Did you feel like that while you were in? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. George on modern adventure? I'll tackle it quick. We don't have one,

but we should be getting one soon. hopefully, but it's a lot, I mean, some of the best athletes in the world, their biggest issues are their self-doubt. And it's how do you control that, whether it's at night, if you're wondering, how am I going to perform tomorrow? For me, it was always about just like not letting doubt in, just like if it was coming in, you weren't allowed in. I'll have to focus on something that was a time of success for me or a time of happiness. And that really helped not only rest and recover at night, but just wake up the next day feeling refreshed and just not letting doubt in. I tell that to my son.

all the time. Even when you won you doubt, you'd won. But that was early on in my career. No, I don't think so. Look, and I'll just wrap it up here. For most of the, or six of those seven years, I mean, in my head, there was no doubt. And I was largely fueled, and I'm not promoting this. I'm not saying it's the best way to be fueled, but I was fueled by rage and anger and just like, these guys want to take my lunch money?

Uh-uh. You're not taking my lunch money. I'll see in the park. And we're going to go toe to toe. But I said six out of the seven. There was one out of those seven where I was convinced that they were going to take my lunch money. And there wasn't anybody on staff. I mean, we had the usual staff that you knew you were comfortable with.

But they weren't the role was not some form of psychologist or therapist or sports therapist. So that fell on, and I'll point to George. I mean, we had fun with the story, I don't know, a few days ago talking about the original iPod and me scrolling and finding music. And that helps a little. But what helps a lot more is having your dog, right? Who in, I don't know, 2003 at that point was a, you know, 15 plus year dog. They just every day say, hey, man, today's a day. right and that was it right and and if it wasn't the day then having my guy right there saying

all right well let's reset and let's go at it again tomorrow like that that was that was my therapy right and then when it finally happened or finally looked like we got some some breathing room was that the most satisfying of all the tours with it because it was more of a challenge yeah yeah yeah well george could probably i mean he's he was a an observer and the closest observer and the most and the one who's observed all of them. Yeah. I mean, that, that, look, I did this is, and I watched Today, right? And, and, you know, it's, it's a job, right?

And you're just, you're just going out and doing the job that you're paid to do. But, oh, three, I didn't love it. But when it finally, you know, that Luzard did end stage and finally, we stopped them, you'll remember this day. I could have just taken the car or gotten off the mountain some other way, but I got down and we saw the team bus stopped up the bus. I said, stop the fucking bus. And I got on the bus. And I was like, how about these apples? It was that was, there was no other stage. And any of those years that felt like that. Now, still had to get through the time trial, which I was nervous about. And that, in that, and that, And I shouldn't, I shouldn't, I should also not neglect Johan. I mean, look, Johann was a master psychologist.

That time trial, many people don't know, the final time trial in 2003. Everybody was doing the math. Jan had gained X amount of time. In the first time trial, I only had Y amount of lead. And there are people just expecting him to, to beat me in the final time trial. And Johann, I think I'm accurate on this. You should actually ask him on the show today, Spencer. But after one kilometer, Jan was six seconds up in one kilometer.

Now, what does Johan say on the radio? Hey, Lance, you're six seconds down after a kilometer? No, he doesn't. He changes everything. You're two seconds down. Right? And so he starts playing. He has, I cannot talk back.

I just have an earpiece. I'm just listening. I'm doing the math. Two seconds. it's okay, two times, whatever. And he's then, he's playing the game with me, which is he knows how to play better than anybody. Yeah, interesting.

And then, of course, unfortunately for Jan, he crashed. And I heard that right away. He said, John went down. And it rained that day. And it was raining. Very, very slippery. And so, anyhow, that was the year I needed it the most. Here, to summarize, that's the year I needed the most.

and it really fell on George and Johan. Should we hug it out like real quick or no, it's too far gone? You know, when you, there's, I don't know. Yeah, I feel warm. I feel warm too. And I'm not, I'm not being a bitch about it. I mean, I'm not afraid to admit it. I feel, I mean, I don't feel.

That's why that was my favorite tour. I don't feel warm trying to pronounce the guy's name, the one stage. I don't feel warm showing the guy disinfecting the room. But these memories are real. Yeah. And don't forget that. And I mean it. And so, yeah, we can hook it out later, dog.

And I might even ride with you before this tour, Francis. All right, let's do it. Look at that. We made chicken salad out of chicken shit, as they say in South Carolina. I haven't heard them say that, but I'll take it. Do you all remember when that balloon was, never mind. All right. Thanks for tuning in, everybody.

What about the trivia? You know what? I got so warm and fuzzy. That's why you're here, Professor. Let's end with the Ventum trivia, right? You get, you enter to win. You get $5,000 credit towards your vent to bike of your choice. Sunday's question, Bastille fell on stage 9 from the Borgaduzon to Gap in 2003.

What iconic moment occurred during the crossing of the cold amounts? Answer, Armstrong rode across a field, cyclocross style to avoid a high-speed crash involving his main G. GC rival that year, you'll say, but Beloki, that did happen. Wild. Do you guys remember who won that stage? Vino, right? Yeah, Vino. That was a great win.

Today's question, flat stage is like stage 11 are a sprinter's best friend. The best sprinter of all time, undeniably, I think, right? Mark Cavendish holds the all-time record for Tour de France stage wins. How many stage wins did he win over his career? Sir Bradley is like, I'm taking over the questions for Ventum Trivias. The thing I remember most about that Blockie crash was the, great Paul Sherwin's commentary that day. My God, how that channel's gone downhill

since he's gone. Legend. Yeah. Legend. Big time, legend. Miss his voice, don't we? Yeah. Well, he was, that, he was,

you know, in that day and age, Batman and Robin, they were great, but Paul was, you know, we were with Paul from early days at Motorola. He was, he was the team press officer. Yeah. Before anybody had a press officer. He was, anybody had, he was our team PR person, except for the month of,

July because he would have to go to the tour so we'd have a fill-in. But he was such a lovely man. Such as, yeah. He's incredible. He's incredible. He's incredible. The best. Yeah.

So that is, anyways, how many stages did Mark Cavendish went? Go on over to ventumracing.com slash the move. To submit your question or your answer. Wow, we were all over the place today. I'm proud of us, though. Proud of us for getting it to the show. Yeah. All right. Thanks for tuning in everybody. See you tomorrow.