THEMOVE - What Was UAE Doing Today? | TdF 2026 Stage 9 | THEMOVE+

Episode Date: July 12, 2026

Johan Bruyneel and Spencer Martin break down how Mathieu van der Poel won Stage 9 from a stacked breakaway, as well as UAE's odd tactics on the day, and whether Lidl-Trek could have played the day differently to deliver Mads Pedersen the stage win. They also go through Tuesday's Stage 10, another tough day in the Massif Central that could produce a GC showdown between Pogačar and Vingegaard, mirroring their battle on the same course on Stage 11 back in 2024. Become a WEDŪ Member Today to Unlock VIP Access & Benefits: https://access.wedu.team Hims: For simple, online access to personalized and affordable care for Hair Loss, ED, Weight Loss, and more, visit https://Hims.com/THEMOVE Lagoon: Use code MOVE for 15% off at https://LagoonSleep.com/THEMOVE Nextbets: Use our special link to see where you can bet in your area and claim the best sign-up offers https://nxtbets.com/betoutcomes/ Ventum: Use code TheMove10 for 10% off anything at: https://ventumracing.com/  

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Visit O-D-O-D-com to book a demo. It's O-D-O-O-O-O-com. I think Pitcock definitely thought that he had a chance against Vandre Poole. There was cohesion, you know. The only guy who kind of skipped a few turns now and then was Alex Baudin, which was his right. But the other three were riding for a purpose, you know? And so, so, yeah, I mean, once Derek G. and Quinn Simmons were back in the main group. Already, Tobias Foss and Vokalayan, they were toast because they had been doing it for a while.

It would only have been if UAE joined that they had a chance. But no, there was no coming back. Vanderpoole had this, I had this in the back, man. He was not going to lose this stage. Everybody, welcome back to the Move Plus. I'm Spencer Martin. I'm here with Johan Bernal. We are breaking down stage nine.

Matthew Vanderpull's incredible stage win. Out of the breakaway, I would say early breakaway, but it wasn't really early. It took a long time to get going. And then we will go through tomorrow, not tomorrow's. Tuesday's stage 10, which rehashes an iconic stage from 2024. But Johan, just I'll quickly recap the stage. Then we'll get your takeaway. The stage started.

It was shortened due to the heat, so 154 kilometers. It meant that the sprint point was really pulled close to the start line like maybe even 12K in. Little Trek controls it. No problem, but it does make the pace quite hard because the sprint point is on a climb. Mads Pedersen takes max points with Beniam Grimai coming in. Second, Jasper Phillips and third, and the attacking started right after that happened and continued for what felt like an hour, an hour and a half. Some of the hardest racing I've seen at this tour.

Finally, a move gets away. Extremely strong move. Then Matthew Vanderpilt attacks at a move. He's followed by Tobias Holland Johansson, Tom Pickcock, and Alex Bowdoin. Those are four of the strongest riders in the race. Quinn Simmons was up in that move with him, was dropped. He drops back to pace Little Trek, who is not far back. or pace Mads Pedersen, his little track teammate,

who's not far back because of some odd pacing from UAE throughout the day. They kept the gap really close. We get this thrilling race into the finish where Vanderpull is just a few seconds ahead of the chasing peloton, which is reduced down to around 30 riders. He doesn't panic, though. He wins the sprint with ease over Holland Johansson and Pitcock. And Felipe O'Gana wins the bunch sprint ahead of Mads Pedersen and Michael Matthews behind. Kind of an interesting twist there.

But, Johan, what was your takeaway? move at the day? Move of the day. I mean, listen, move of the day has to be Matyvon Rappu. And the way he had this stage in his control, you know, he was basically in all the moves tried a few times at the beginning already. He was, you know, he was in the breakaway straight away. And he made it back to because I think initially, I'm not mistaken, was Quinn

Simmons and Johannesen who went away pretty early, actually, with about 80K to go. They went away from that 16-man breakaway, which I thought was a bit early. But then Van der Poole came back on a climb, which was really hard. So there you could see, okay, this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy is going to be difficult to beat this guy today. Because, you know, I mean, 3,000 meters over 150 kilometers, that's not Van der Poole's favorite terrain. Also, you know, reportedly doesn't like the heat. Couldn't see that today. He did pretty well in the heat today.

And he did a great time, Charles, in the heat just a few weeks ago too. So maybe he should ride in heat. So he said that a few days, like the last three days, he has started to feel better that initially the first week, he didn't really feel that great. So I think we're going to see more of him in stages like this. Probably not the next stage because that's really hard.

but other transition stages is not the last thing we've seen about from Matthew van der Poul it's of course and it's also it's not easy for him to win from a breakaway because once he's in the breakaway of course everybody looks at him and they don't give it their 100%.

Other than that Spencer my may not take away of the day question of the day actually is what was you are you doing? You know there was this 16 riders then it went down to eight or nine looked strong guys.

It looked like nobody was in there that there was a threat for the yellow jersey. And yet, you know, they started to ride really fast. Tim Wellens was going crazy fast. And they kept it always around a minute, 15, 20, then one minute. So, you know, that's not controlling the breakaway. That's riding to win the stage.

So I found that a strange observation. And then after the stage, I listened to Adam Yates. Adam Yates said initially, you know, we were kind of thinking that there could be a chance, that it could be a small group and that Taday or Deltoro could win the sprint. You know, when you see that Mats Pedersen is there, Ghana's there. I mean, still, it's Taday. I mean, he could have won, right? My question is, is it worth it, you know?

Then I saw Tim Wellens had a quote and said, before the start, we had discussed that Isaac Del Toro might be able to sprint if it came down to a small group. I mean, yes, of course. In my opinion, there would be like 10 or 15 riders of the climbers. I think there was probably like 40 guys there. And if you see that at least Pedersen is there and Michael Matthews is there. and then other guys like Aramburu

and, you know, like other writers that are punchers, they did definitely have a chance del Toro and even more so Pulacha, but my question is, is that really worth it? Is that really worth it? Yes, tomorrow's the rest day. Again, you know, I criticized

them after stage, was stage three or four, I don't remember which stage it was. It was the pagetra stage three. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, and yes, then afterwards they gave the jersey away and they had a few days off. But still, these, I mean, they are in a position, let's say, that they can actually take the luxury to make these decisions. Because if you look today at some point when Tim Wallens was still there, they had six riders of UAE where Visma was already down to four.

so nobody else was even close to I mean Little track had a few riders but they're not a threat to UAE and to the classification I think not to Polachar's position at least so yeah I mean we should not be surprised because that's how they race and they want to win as many stages as possible

but yeah I mean my I have another opinion I wouldn't have done it that way but anyways luckily they don't think like me because it makes the it makes the racing very very interesting and very very entertaining yeah well the people we were watching with like bradley was saying oh this is so boring i'm thinking like this is way more interesting than i remember

your tours being because now we have this thrilling unnecessary battle between the breakaway and the chasing peloton and just to give a little more context on this yohan so like on it not being a van derpool day or the climbs not being good for them. That's true, but also the harder climbs were earlier in the stage. The final third of the stage, you know, one climb is one K long. The other climb is 2K long. That sounds like a classic to me, which helps Vanderpull, but also, I didn't understand the plan for you, so you pull this move back and then how do you win? Because it's not great terrain.

You're with some of the best classics riders in the world. What was, like, what was the path to winning? I was a little confused by that. I think Pulachar winning that up, he'll sprint. That's the only thing I could have to think of. I mean, he did already beat Vanderpul in a sprint like this. Last year, he did beat him. That was a, yeah. It was not, it was not much harder than this.

It was probably not as hard as this. But is he going to beat Matt's Pedersen, Michael Matthews, and Flip Peggana? Yeah. Yeah, those guys are fast, like really fast. But here's a theory from me. Let's say this. let's say that's a bluff. They didn't want to win the stage.

Do they have data or do they have a theory that like it's hot, it's hot as shit. It's a hard day. We're the strongest. Let's pummel our competition so they can't attack us later. Like is that, does that even make sense where you could just ride your, ride Jonas into the ground so he cannot attack, or at least ride Jonas's team into the ground. So Visma can't bother you later in the race. I don't, I don't think they're worried about that, Spencer. then I don't really have I think I think I don't really have it if you look at them

man for man they're stronger on every single position than than Visma and any of the other teams man for man I mean their best rider is the best their second rider is the best second rider of all teams their third best rider is probably the third best rider of all teams you know yes they don't have much to worry about you know yes that's that's a good point but I don't know. I don't get it. I felt like it probably wasn't like, are the other teams happy about this or no? There's not.

I mean, listen, it's the race, you know. It's their right to do that. They're not getting any gifts. You know, I mean, it's like, okay, as a GC team, for example, you're trying to control a race, you know, and then you kind of try to get into a situation where you let the break go. after an hour of super hard racing, everybody's saying, okay, and then whenever you decide,

okay, this is the good break, then there's still going to be teams who are attacking. That also pisses them off, you know, the team that is controlling the jersey. So there's no gifts,

you know, I mean, it's like, or sometimes they want to let the break go and another team doesn't agree and they bring the break back. And then they have to start all over again. So that also sucks if you have to control the race.

So, no, I don't think, I don't think, anyways, it was going to be difficult. What I mean, what I don't understand is that what they did and then finally they gave up. You know, if they really wanted to win the stage when, and also, for example, Ineos, Ineos, that was also a question, you know, initially, because Ineos started to pull, right, with Vocelan and Tobias Foss. Yeah. I was during the stage, I was questioning also, okay, why are they doing this?

Is this to protect the 10th place of Egon Bernal? Because Johanerson and Pitcock could come into the top 10. I wrote down here. I said, well, it's come far that a team like net company in Aos with a budget of 50 million rides in stage nine for a potential top 10. But then at the end, we saw that Pippo Gana was in there, which I didn't. scene and he won the sprint against Matt Patterson.

But yeah, I mean, it's also that's super impressive from Ghana by the way to survive that stage and then win that bunch sprint. I mean, you are right. I think it was a twofer. I think they were controlling for Ghana, but also they don't want to let Tobias Holland Johansen and Tom Pitcock get a bunch of time on Pitcair. We did here on the

race video, right? The director, I think it's I think it's impi. who said, you know, we are losing time on the GC guys in the front, which obviously means that they're concerned about trying to get in the top 10. So, you know, listen, if Bernal is good enough to be in the top 10, he's not going to lose the top 10 in a stage like this. That's a pretty good point. But on the other side, on the other side, maybe he's not good enough

and he has to take advantage just to get into breakaways like this, to get in the top 10. it's also not obvious. I mean, you look at this top 10, you know, like you would be like, wow, trying to get in the top 10. That's, that's kind of sad. It's a lot of good riders in the top 10. It's maybe the most stacked top 10 I've ever seen. So finishing in the top 10 in the top 10 is different. It's very difficult.

You have to be a very good rider to be in the top 10 in the tour of France, no matter what they say. Like right now, yeah, like you have Florian Lipowitz sitting seventh. And Florin Lipowitz is one of the best stage racers in the sport. You know, Lenny Martinez, huge, huge talent. Schelmo's a ninth. Bernal 10th. He's amongst the best riders. So the top 10 is important.

I was a little confused about the pacing, but when we saw Ghana sprint, you know, why not pace? Because if you have a chance to win the stage with Ghana, you should probably do it and you get to pull back. I mean, the thing is these aren't, these are no panicookens. Like Tobias Holland-Johansen,

that guy's are really good. You might not get back the time you give to him. Same thing with Pitcock. Who knows where his head is at at any point. Well, he's really good riding the podium to the pulto. Speaking of Pitcag, by the way, I wanted to mention, you know, impressive. When the 15, 16 man breakaway was getting together, he was not there. And he attacked from the peloton.

And on the moment that they were trying to get, create the gap, he bridged 20 seconds by himself on all these good riders by himself. That was an impressive move. There's not, there's, there's, there's, there was, there's all, there's real. Three or four riders in the whole peloton who can do this and Pitcock is one of them. Well, we need you to beam in because Lance keeps saying. I don't understand this. But that, like, right there. It's like he, well, he can do stuff there.

Yeah. And then, you know, unfortunately, he had that mechanical at the, at the finish, you know, we, we, the question is, what would have changed? Was it, so basically it was his down, the normal shifters didn't work, but the ones on the top of the brake lever worked. It's what I can make out of his interview. Because yeah, I mean, they didn't work. And then I had a hard time understanding because he kicked his reel, derailer with his foot. And all of a sudden it starts working.

That doesn't really make a lot of sense. So there must be a short circuit there in the on the shifters. I don't know. Yeah, in the actual shifter. So he was using the button on the top. The button, I mean, maybe keep your hands on the hoods if you know that that's the way you can shift. He seemed to forget. Yeah.

I mean, he was definitely sprinting. He was sprinting on the on the hoods instead of in the drops. But yeah, I mean, that was unfortunate. He did a great stage, but cock, did a great stage. It was a great stage. I do want to ask you about Little Trek. So they get Quinn Simmons is up the road in this move with Derek G. So it's a good situation.

But number one rule of bike racing. Don't get dropped from the breakaway. What happens? He gets dropped from the breakaway when Vanderpull attacks. I honestly didn't think he was in great position. I maybe would park myself right on Van der Pohl's wheel if we were going into that climb because you know the attacks coming. He gets dropped with G. they fall back, they're pacing for Mads Pedersen.

Should they just have focused on that, Johan? Because I think they potentially win that. I mean, do they win the stage or do they lose to Ghana? Maybe being in the break was the right. It's different. It's different, Spencer. You can not judge because Ghana won the sprint of the first group. I mean, if it's for the win, it's a different story.

Yeah, it's a different story. I think Patterson would have gotten it. Yeah, I have questions about the tax. tactics today of Little Trek, honestly. It was okay to be in the break. But then when you see the composition of the breakaway and you see that Vanderpoul and Pitcock are there, I mean, how are you going to win from Vanderpoole and Pitcock if you have Derek G. and Quinn Simmons? At least, for starters, don't collaborate. You have the excuse that Matt's, I mean, Matt Spaderson is going through hell to stay with those 35 riders, which is impressive, by the way.

Impressive performance of Matt Spederson to be with all these GC riders. That means that he's really in good shape. Then at least, first of all, if you're there, don't collaborate. You have the excuse that you have your leader in the back. They did ride. I didn't see them skip turns in the front when they were with these. 12 riders or eight riders. No, they were pulling hard.

Yeah. Yeah. So, and then yeah, I mean, listen, the moment, the moment they drop back, that's too late, Spencer. It's very simple, you know. The four guys who were in front dropped these other guys. So Derek G. and Quinn Simmons were dropped. So a guy who gets dropped from the break is not going to bring that break away back later on. You know, it's not that complicated, you know? So, well, it's a, there's always this thought of like, well, there's numbers behind.

It's like, well, if they're all weaker than the person in front, they're not going to catch them because they can't go as fast. With these four riders, yeah, and the fact that, you know, the fact that it was one minute, 50 seconds, 40 seconds, they have to keep going until the end. And the fact that also, I think Pitcock definitely thought that he had a chance against Wanderpoole, there was cohesion, you know. the only guy who kind of skipped a few turns now and then was Alex Baudin, which was his right, but the other three were riding for a purpose, you know? And so, so yeah, I mean, once Derek G and Quinn Simmons were back in the main group, already Tobias Foss and Vokalant, they were toast because they had been doing it for a while.

It would only have been if UAE joined that they had a chance. But no, there was no coming. back. Vandre Poole had this in the back, man. He was not going to lose this stage. Well, do you feel like this speaks to Little Trex issues sometimes? So you have riders up in the breakaway polling, you have Mads Pedersen back in the

Peloton wanting the breakaway to get caught. And instead of leveraging that, where that's a great situation, right? Because the guys in the breakaway can use Pedersen as an excuse to skip turns, sit on, gives him a greater probability of winning in the sprint against Vanderpull. because they've done less work. Do you feel like sometimes a little trek they just don't,

there doesn't feel like they're ever on the same page? Or it doesn't even feel like it's a team. It's just a collection of writers. No, they're riding. I mean, no, I mean, I don't want to be too critical. I have the impression and it's just an outside observation. I don't know if it's true or not. But my take would be that today, since the other day,

Quinn Simmons and Vachek killed for Mats Pedersen in the breakaway and they gave up their own chances today. They wanted to let them have their chance in the breakaway. Quinn Simmons at least. Quinn has been quite ofspoken about his own ambitions. And I think that's probably the reason why they didn't hold them back. They let them collaborate to at least, you know, nurture the ambition. of the riders of the little track in the in the break but you don't have yeah you don't have to collaborate no no no yeah right and then queen simmons was there's no lie detector test was in the worst possible position when they i mean i would have to look back but if they were eight riders

i think he was in sixth or seventh position when they turned and that was a short climb and that was you know matthew van der pool terrain he dropped everybody nobody could stay on his wheel you know if you're not on his wheel there yeah you're done you know i mean that uh okay these three guys came back. But if you're in, if you're too far behind that, you're not going to close that gap. Yeah, I didn't really understand that. But anything else? I mean, were you surprised that this as Vanderpals? It's just his third stage win at the tour of his career. Well, we said it the other day, you know, that he only won two stages. I mean, I mean, Matyvonadipal is not, this is not his favorite race, Spencer. He, you know, sometimes it looks like he's there because he has to be

there but doesn't really want to be there. But man, when he wins, he does it in unbelievable fashion. That was a great win today. Also, another interesting, impressive stat, Spencer, is that it's the sixth time that Alpacin participates in the tour. And every single year, they've won at least one stage. They've always one stage. That's pretty impressive.

They always won stages. Yeah. I believe. their first non-Vanderpool win was Tim Relier, I think. Wait, who won a stage for them in 2020? I don't know. At the Tour de France.

Let's look at it. I don't know if they wanted to or stage. I heard that on Belgian TV today. Well, we'll call in with that. But do you know, a little quiz for you, do you know the last race that Vanderpull won before this? E3.

E3? Yeah. So it's been a minute, actually. Yeah, I think he won. So he won, he won a stage in Tireno. He won E3. And he won, at Needs Blat, I think. Yep.

That's the hardest one to remember the first one. I always blocked that one out. It does. He has a funny history with the tour where he's only finished it twice. But the tours that he's. finished are his worst tours. He's not really contended for a stage in them. Like, he's done better on the tours where he doesn't finish. Do you think he's going to finish this thing? Or is he going to go home? I think he's going to finish. Yeah. I think he's going to finish. I think he's going to win in Paris.

Yeah. Yeah. I think that's quite a good prediction. I could totally see that happening. Anything else on today's stage? I think that's it. Yeah. Green Jersey. I mean, good day for not, I mean, not a huge win for, for Peterson. At least he won the intermediate sprint. And then he got, he got fifth, no, six, he got six, right? He got sixth. So six on the stage. So he gets 40 points.

Okay. 40 points where the others got 20? The best scoring one was Beniam. Yeah. Okay. So another 20. And Tim Rlerler got zero. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, Tim Merlear has never been a candidate for neither has he. I mean, he said he stated publicly also that he has no chance to win the green jersey. That, you know, he would need to change his whole training and he's not interested in doing that. I guess so let's pencil him in for two more wins. Bunchprints. Then he would be 40. Yeah, two more bunchment wins would be like 45.

points up on Pedersen. But Pedersen can, you know, today he just got 40. Yeah. I think, you know, he probably could pull 40 points out of somewhere. I would say one more. I would say one more. I mean, bunch prints are obviously something can go wrong. Something can happen, you know?

Yeah. Oh, I'm just saying if he won all the available bunch prints remaining, he still probably would not have enough to. Yeah, because another guy who will score points on in Paris is Pedersen. Yeah, he could win. He could win that. He can win there. He could win.

And then Beniam's 45 points back. What do we think about him? Listen, I mean, I'm surprised. I'm surprised about Biniam's shape. Did not see that coming. I mean, that was not an easy start to the day. And he was right there. Yeah.

Yeah. It was. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. You can never count this guy out. You know, he can look as bad as he wants before the tour. He wants to say hi to our audience, who's really, really, really asking for attention.

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We're going to preview stage 10. But before we do that, Johan, I wanted to ask you a question from the listeners. Okay. So we want to add this into the rest of the episodes for the tour. So if you have questions for Johan, email them at we do. It's, sorry, info at we do. And if we can, we'll put it on the show. not that this was a good one.

This is from Mike. I've forgotten about this. This was in response to us talking about the one buy. He says, are there any teams or riders using the classified rear hub? I believe Ineos was testing it a few years ago. I do vividly remember this or vaguely remember this. What happened to this? It's still around.

It's still around, but it's not getting the, you know, I mean, I think mainly it's around because some ex-riders or investors in the company. I think Tom Bonin, Philip Gilbert, and if I'm not mistaken, Marcel Kittl, or investors in the company. So, I mean, I think it's a great system, but the only way that they can stay around if it gets bought by one of the big manufacturers, I think, because that's the only way that professional teams are going to be allowed to use it. You know, if Schram or Shimano buys it. Other than that, how are you going to justify using it? I mean, the components manufacturer, the sponsor is not going to agree to, for the riders to use it. That's a very good point.

And I guess the hub, the design was that allows you to run a one-by, but then you switch. You basically change the gear. Yeah, you have like a virtual second chain ring. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I kind of like the idea, but again, it's like then you're introducing a lot of complexity. Well, I mean, the thing is also, I think the problem with the problem with that system will be, and when we see it, you know, and it's, I think it's unavoidable that it, the tendency is going towards a one buy with, no, 13 years in the back. I've seen a new manufacturer lately, a new Chinese component's manufacturer. They have 14 gears in the back.

then you can start thinking about a one buy right and so that makes basically the classified system obsolete i think uh very sad too bad but it's a very good point yeah the more you can add to the one by there has to be a limit there right we can't just keep adding like let's just go straight to 25 i mean 14 14 gears already that's uh that starts to be interesting you know like two for a one by then these gaps are becoming. By the way, my take on the one by of Jonas on the Turmalet stage was identical to Tom Dumoulin. He had the same questions about it and the same reservations about using that. So that was, I mean, this year's a guy who's been recently in the Peloton and thinks that it's also not the smartest, especially for a big mountain stage.

Yeah, well, if Tom Dumlin says it, I support it. So he's our new mascot at the move. We love Tom Dumilan. But that is interesting because he would know, I mean, he raced in a tour de France that Tate has a won. So recently been competing. If he has doubts about it, then it's probably legitimate questions. But should we preview stage 10, Johan?

Yeah, let's do that. After the rest of day. So it's 166 kilometers. And it's through the. massive central. It is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven categorized climbs and a little bit of an uphill finish goes over Pui Marie finishes at La Lorraine. If this sounds familiar, it's because this was stage 11 of the 2024 to France, which was the famous stage where Pagachar attacks on Puy-Marie gets reeled in by Jonas Finnegard and then loses in like a bike throw to Jonas. And I think

that's the last time Yonis has beaten Taday Pagachar. Last time of Yomri. Last time. has, I mean, like, beaten, I mean, he's been in front of Tade Pogacar a few times, because Pagacar just decided to stay on his wheel. But yeah, that stage, Spencer, I remember that stage. That was, that's a hard stage, man. And very important, stage 10, the day after rest day, is always, always comes with some surprises. It's a super hard stage.

4,000 meters, right? of elevation? Yeah, I was just going to say that. 4,000 meters of elevation and there's only one, two stages left in this race after this

that have more elevation gain. So it might not, I think the crew over here looked at it like, yeah, that's pretty hard, but I don't think they fully digested. The profile doesn't do it justice

about how much climbing there is in here. And the climbs are not very long. So that means if the climbs aren't long and there's a lot of elevation gain, it means you're always climbing, right? Because you've got to make that elevation up somewhere. The finish is really tricky. It's this people will remember there's a descent and then Primos Rago crashed and there's

technically a climb up to the finish. But he was given the same time as the, I believe he was with Brentu, Evanopol, even though it was an uphill finish because it was classified as a flat finish. And they changed the rule actually because of this. But it's a really tricky finish. I would not be shocked if we have multiple GC guys going to. of the line. Do you think this is going to be G.C. or I think G.C. Day.

Yeah, I think so, too. I think Tadipagos should go out and win it. Go for it. I mean, if you see how dominant they are and how you know, I can't imagine if they wanted to win today, which didn't make much chance to me,

I cannot see any reason why they wouldn't want to win on Tuesday. It's a lot easier to control. if you have the strongest team, maybe Pugachar wants to make a statement because of what happened in 2024. I'm just thinking out loud, you know?

So I think Pugacha wins. I think you're right because I think he's going to want to make a statement. I think he's sick of hearing about that that gets brought up every time. It might be the last time he did a, no, no, at least in a stage race, it's the last time he did a breakaway and was caught because Amstall Gold, he was also real in. It doesn't happen very often.

I think he's going to want to win, put this to rest, get this question over with. I don't know if gaps are going to be big, but the gaps were, if you remember 2024, the gaps were not insignificant that day. It was, you know, there was people pretty far behind. Like, I'm just going to look up right now. Stage 11, 2024, how far back, Remko Evan to pull 25 seconds back, Prima's Rogelch, 25 seconds back, but then everybody else was two minutes back. So, you know, this could be bigger time gaps than we're going to,

see on some of the summit finishes later in the race because it's more dynamic racing, thus more basically more surface area for the for the favorites to put time into the others. If you want to bet on it though, we have a partnership with next bets. So go to nxtebats.com slash bet outcomes and it will show you exactly where you can bet how to bet. And Johan, I have a question for you. Our next bets question of the day. So there's one of the bets on next bet.

And next bet's bet. on next bets, you can then look at the best prices and then go to that book and bet on it. So it shops for you. But here's one of the bets they have up here. This is a margin of victory. So just anyone first to second. So the options are less than one minute. That's plus 1,800 basically.

That's crazy. So if you bet $100 on it, you would win $1,800 in profit. 1 to 3 minutes plus 499, 3 to 5 minutes plus 228, 5 to 7 minutes plus 108, more than 7 minutes minus 122. Which one of these would you pick for the margin of victory at this race? I would pick either between 3 and 5 or over 5. And this is for the overall, not for the stage 11. 3 and 5. Well, let's just see right now.

So right now, Pagatra's 2.42 up. After how much do you think he's going to be up? I think he's going to win more than five minutes. More than five minutes. No, no, no. Or on Tuesday. No, at the empires, in Paris. Overall.

More than five minutes. I think he could be, yeah, I think he could be up by almost four minutes after stage 10. So yes, I think by more than five minutes would be the safe bet plus 108 probably is. The only way it's less, I guess, would be if Pagotcha crashes. out. Yeah. And then Del Toro and Vinegard aren't separated by very much. So that would be if you think that's going to happen, you should start fishing for the lower ones, but probably won't happen because favorites don't crash out as much as people think they do, especially after the first few days. Are you ready for the Ventim trivia, Johan? So you think, I think

we're both picking Pagachar. I think this is Gisky Day. Pagachar wins. I would be shocked if anybody else won. So Vintam trivia, if you want to answer the question, And if you want to answer and get it right, you're entered into a chance to win $5,000 worth of Ventum bike of your choice. The winner of this will be announced on the tour's final stage on the move on July 26th. Yesterday's question was, and if you can't wait for that and you want to get a Ventum, go to Ventim. Go to Ventim.com. Ventimracing.com slash the move. Use code the Move 10 for 10% off.

Yesterday's question. In 1990, Greg Lamon won his third two to fronts, which rider? dropped him to win at lose Ardden on stage 16. The answer is Miguel Enderaine, and we picked this question because we think people forget how good of a climber Miguel Enderane was. Today's question is Paul Sikos. I have a story about this.

Yeah, and then we can. Yeah, I budgeted in for the story. We're good on the story. So Paul Sixth, the 19-year-old French rider, could still wear yellow at this race in theory. Who's the last French rider to wear the yellow jersey in their tour debut? If you know the answer to it, you want to answer it. Go to ventumracing.com slash the move.

Put your answer in there and you'll be entered to win $5,000 toward a Ventim bike of your choice. Okay. What is your story about the 1990 tour de France? That stage 16 and 17. Spencer, that was my 1990 was my first tour de France. I was racing for Lotto. And yeah, I mean, I had my leader. The leader of the team was Clodet-Cricillon, who I think he finished.

six or seven in that tour de France, sadly passed away already. And I was always kind of the last guy with him. So I remember that stage. I came to the bottom to get a wit, together with the main group, and then I had to let them go. I think I finished like 14, 15. I don't remember exactly. But the day after was the famous stage,

which I showed the picture the other day, where I lost to Konyshev in Po. which so and there was at that time there was a classification which i didn't know of but i only found out uh after the stage of of pool there was a classification for the the the perony weekend so the best placed rider in the two stages of the pyrenees there was a hundred thousand french francs price which you know translated to in back in those days it was kind of a substantial amount of money at least for me back then it was and And so there was only, so I came, I came to the finish in Paul, got second.

There was, I think the remainder of the breakaway came to the finish. I think we were like 12, 13 riders. And then the Palaton, the main group came to the finish. Like today, for example, like today, the main group of favorites. And it was not an uphill finish, so it was a sprint, right? And there was only one way for me to not win that price. And if that Miguel Indirine won the sprint of the Peloton. And he sprinted and he won the sprint of the paraton.

And I didn't get the 100,000 French francs. Yeah. Oh, devastating. But anyways, you know, it's not a, it's not a shame to lose from Indyriang. Yeah, not a shame at all. No shame. By the way, by the way, it's not, you know, the question is, is not, is not who dropped Greg Lamont.

He just kind of out sprinted him and then there was a small gap. I think Indira, if I'm not mistaken, So it was the Tour of France that Kappucci was in the lead. And Lamont was chasing and trying to get time back day by day, which actually finally, he only took the yellow jersey in the last time trial, on the second last day. Yeah, because Kappucci got a massive breakaway on stage one, together with Steve Bauer and Ronan Pasek.

I do remember that. So, yeah, Lamont was doing the majority of the work. Indyreim was basically following him. And Lamont was just riding to get time. You know, it didn't ride for the stage. And then Indurine passed him at the end and took like three, four seconds. I don't know how many, but he didn't drop him. He was sitting on the wheel.

I mean, it was uphill. It was already not easy to stay on the wheel. But I don't think he relayed on it was already then. Well, like, we, yeah, we debated this. So after the stage, he was, Lamond was five seconds behind Kiapucci. So then with a TT left, he must have felt pretty confident because Lamon finishes fifth in the final TT. I guess this is what people mean when they say, oh, these races were interesting. Like that is kind of interesting.

The GC guy comes in. He's got to make up time. He doesn't win the time trial, but he puts enough time in a Kiapucci. But he puts like three minutes into Kiya Pucci in the time trial. So you're right that he probably was just trying to take time trial. it was yeah which almost doesn't happen anymore that you get non-GC guys winning the final time trial

I think broken was third in GCC well I should have said the guy like the guy that's not winning the race usually what happens now is the best GC guy is better in time trials and climbing you don't get this hodgepodge of oh I was the best time trialist but I wasn't the best climber

Yeah, we debated whether we should say dropped or not, and we just said dropped because it sounded more impressive for McGill and Green. That we thought we'd throw Miguel a bone on that one. I mean, we must have done the Tourmalet also then. Yeah, for sure, we must have done the Tourmalet. Yes, because, oh, actually, you know what? Now I remember. You must have done.

Now I remember. I was actually in that stage. I mean, I'll try to, try to, I'll send a picture now. If Gabriel can put it up. at the end of the show here. I have a picture, Ciappucci in yellow. We were actually in a breakaway that day

with five or six guys. And I was with Cappucci in a break. He was in yellow and he was the whole stage escaped. We came, we got over to Toulmalae with Ciapucci. And then we got caught in the, just before Luzardidam. This was on this stage. KiyuPucci was in a breakaway. I was away with Cappucci.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got with four riders, four riders over the tourmalet. And the favorites were not there. And this was your tour debut. Yeah, yeah. Big star breaking out there. Yeah, man. You don't know how you're talking to do.

I know your first tour. Forget the winning the nine tours as a director. Jeez. That's kind of crazy that Kiapucci was in the breakaway as the race leader. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he was not, he did not start the Tour de France as one of the favorites at all. At all. He just, you know, got that massive time gap, I think six, seven minutes on stage one.

And he just kept it, you know. What a wild man. That is crazy. Yeah, we got to see this picture. Johan away with the yellow jersey over the tourmalet. I'm going to have to go back and watch this race now. But anything else, Johan, before we take off. No, tomorrow rest day.

And we'll be back on Tuesday, 4th. a very, very interesting stage. I'm looking forward to see that stage. That's going to be, I mean, that's what you need to see from the beginning. Yes. So, yeah, no show tomorrow. Sorry. Don't show up here.

Ready to listen. But we'll be back on Tuesday to break down. Yeah, what should be a great stage. But enjoy your day off, Johan. And we'll talk on Tuesday.