Therapuss with Jake Shane - Halloween Special with Benito Skinner
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Sabrina.
Where are you?
We're about to start.
Okay.
Okay, be here soon.
I love you.
Happy Halloween.
Don't you come over.
Red wine supernova.
Fall right into me.
Oh, shut the fuck up.
You made it.
Just got here.
Oh, okay.
What were you doing?
I wanted to look like this when we talk about intrusively.
thoughts. Yeah, of course. Hi, hey, pussies. I'm so honored to be here. Are you kidding? I'm so...
What are my tits look? Your tits look amazing, Sabrina. Oh, God, you look so cute, Chapel. Oh, thank you so much.
Thank you. I, literally, I can't, we can't stop looking at ourselves in the mirror. No, I can't. It's all I've been doing.
And there's a surprise later. I'm a surprise. How am I sounding? Good.
Love him, hey. Okay, guys, I cannot breathe. You can't. You can't. You can. You can.
I'm going to have a full panic attack, but I want that on camera.
No, everything, get it on camera.
And I keep going like this.
Yep.
Uh-huh.
You look gorgeous.
You look gorgeous.
You're kidding me.
Barry's going to love that.
Uh-oh.
Oh, shit.
You look down and I go, hairy thighs, totally.
Love that.
Oops.
Hi.
You ready?
Yeah.
Happy Halloween Pussies.
And welcome back, or welcome to the Halloween special of Therapus.
We have the one, the only.
not Sabrina Carpenter, but close enough, Benito Skinner.
Are you kidding?
The Shee and Sabrina Carpenter, I would say.
Hi, darling.
Hi.
I'm so excited to be here.
I'm so excited to be here.
When you texted me about this, I was, oh, well, there's, I'm a ghost.
I love it.
What's Taylor Swift's, what was her gravestone in that, um, it's called?
Brett, where'd she go?
She would now.
Where is the old?
Do you remember where the, look what she made me do?
Was it like the old Taylor?
No, it was the old Taylor, but it was like,
the gravestone of like her old like writing name.
Oh, um, Niels.
Neals. Niels.
Yeah.
I love it.
I love history.
And then look at this one says, terrified.
Don't.
I did.
You said your boyfriend?
He's dead.
What would you do if he died?
That's the first question.
Wait, stop.
This is incredible.
Do you like it?
I feel like I tricked you into a Halloween special, but I love that.
No, I, I, we have been so excited about this for literally.
forever. Oh, and Sabrina, this one says
Barry D. Alive.
Stop. It was for you. Again,
history. Look at this. The attention to
detail. Look at an espresso
martini. Should we cheers? Yeah, of course.
Okay. It's vodka, so I'll be depressed in
three. Two, eye contact.
One. Cheers to us.
Fabulous.
I'm fully shaking because I kind of can't
move my lower back. Oh, you can't? No, but
I like that. Do you need another pillow? No, this is perfect.
Okay. Yeah. No, it feels good.
It's good. We're in full pain. How do you feel
in this. I feel really vulnerable.
You revealed something to me today that I didn't know.
What was that? You had never been in drag.
I've never been. Well, there was a photo of me
when I was in sixth grade. I dressed up as I love Lucy.
Okay. And that was the closest I ever got to drag. This feels similar.
This feels similar. Same wheelhouse. I like that. Famous
Reds. Famous Reds. I love it. It's perfect for you. Perfect coloring.
Perfect. Yours is perfect.
I will say the second I put this on, I get why she's talking about sex so much.
Really? I feel like a little high.
Hussey.
I feel so horny.
Like, you're just horny.
You know what I mean? I'm kind of like,
ugh.
Like, I was looking at the mirror and I was like,
fuck, I'd bop around stage two in a little towel.
We need that.
We need heroes like that.
Pop is not that it, I mean, it did go away for a minute.
I think so.
I think so.
Someone brought it back and she's, she's coming in later.
She's coming.
Yeah.
I think her, well.
These tools brought Pop back.
Yeah, the Power Puff girls.
Yeah.
This summer.
This summer.
This summer.
This summer.
This summer.
Fuck.
I want us to have a show.
Oh, I'm pissed.
Me fucking too.
Oh, God.
Okay, can I call you Benny?
Yeah, you better.
Okay, well, I just want to make sure.
Yeah.
I get so pissed.
Like, imagine.
Well, that would be...
I truly can't breathe.
I'm so upset.
Hold my hands.
That's my girl.
That's my pussy.
You look fabulous.
Okay, sorry.
I'll stop.
You know, this is so not what me and Marybeth do for ride.
Like, this is a full production.
It is incredible.
It is a full production.
You have a full team.
I know.
And a tour bus.
It takes the village.
I can tell.
Look at this.
Well, we're in a graveyard village.
We recorded, like, random, like, banks in Toronto.
Did that where you guys recorded?
I can't even tell you where we were recording.
It was, like, just, they get more and more random each time.
Lately, Mary Beth was at a place in Brooklyn, and the back of it, I was just like, you're at the U.N.
You know, I was like, you're voting on something, as I want her to be.
But I was like, what is going on?
Tell me.
Where was she?
I was like, were you kidnapped?
Like Bushwick, I think.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, same thing.
In honor of ride, like I did want to bring something that I ride for.
You're kidding.
No, I did.
As they fix my tits.
As you fix your tits.
Yeah, tell me.
A star is born, the trailer, and the subs, uh, subsqueath.
We have strokes.
Can you imagine?
I would die to have a stroke in this.
Like, if they had to, the ambulance has to carry us out.
Yeah, like, do you know what I think about all the time?
What?
Is like, if you do get in a car accident, they'll cut you out of your clothes.
I think that would wake me up.
I'd go,
No, not that.
Back on.
I don't know why I had to tell you that,
but you needed to know that.
No, I needed to know.
And I would not let,
I would zip,
unzip you out of this dress.
Yeah, I would say,
well, Benny has to do it.
I'd say, whoa, oh, no.
He may have just died.
But we need,
we need a friend and a family.
Nope, no, thanks.
A star is born trailer.
Oh, my God.
And the press tour.
This is huge.
I'm like, thank God.
There could be 100 people in the room.
Yeah.
And there's,
maybe two.
And you,
but you know what?
Like,
have you ever seen a compilation
of her saying that over and over and over and over and over and over again?
It's called a press tour.
Yeah.
How many stories do you think she's got?
Not enough.
You know what I mean?
It's like, that made sense to me.
I get it.
I also got it.
I like the point.
I get it.
I also thought it was really inspirational.
Like, there does just have to be one person.
And it's Bradley Cooper.
Like that's fabulous.
She goes, it could be one gay guy in a room.
That's what, that's us.
That's us.
And, but I got the sentiment.
Like, if one dude is just like, hell yeah, girl.
Tear it up.
You're my star now.
I think that's fabulous.
That movie is everything to me.
So that movie, I've watched the beginning, like 50 times.
I've only seen the end twice because I can't do it.
I can't put myself through it.
But the trailer, we don't get trailers like that anymore.
We don't get trailers like that anymore.
I'm so glad you brought this up.
Thank you.
We've talked about it on Ride 2 of like the Diana trailer did that for me and Cruella.
Uh-huh.
Great trailer.
Yeah.
You've got me hooked.
And you know, they're so, and then I'm trying to think of like the spring breakers trailer.
Don't talk about, we can't talk about spring breakers.
No, because like that...
That's when I come back on.
I could talk about that for two hours.
That trailer did things for me.
Perfect art.
Perfect art.
Srylix.
Scrilix.
You need him on this.
I know.
Skrillix on therapist.
Come on.
Have you ever met Shkrillx?
No.
Neither have I.
I'm sure he's a total doll.
Yeah, I think so, too.
I saw him walking a dog once, full head shaven.
No.
And it just took me back.
I felt amazing.
He was like the...
DJ.
Yeah.
Miss Skrill, Scrill.
Miss Girl, Scrillx.
Miss Girl, Scrilis.
What was it?
It was scary monsters and nice.
Oh, Skrill, drop it hard.
Like, me listening to that being such, like, a homo.
You know what I mean?
I'm like, I love this, you guys.
It's like, wait, I would literally, like, play that just, like, walking around a college campus.
Me too. Scurlux is amazing, but he hasn't had a situation a moment in a while.
Oh, I thought you meant like he had been canceled.
I'm like, don't tell me that.
No, no, no.
I can't lose Skrill.
Not Skrill.
No, I'm sure.
No, as far as I know, he hasn't been canceled yet.
Okay.
But what's your thing?
Hearing you, like, I forget how you look right now.
Me too.
I forget that this is how we look.
Okay, I'm going to have a sip.
Everyone was like, Jake, you're shaking.
I was like, I think I'm just.
I'm kind of shaking, too, because I can't feel my low back and I'm so excited.
And your waist is gone.
Don't even start.
This is what, you know what, women have been through so much.
We can do this for an hour.
I literally was saying that with my.
That's like our big thing.
That is our big thing.
And I was sitting there with my hair and my dress.
And I was like, fuck, like.
Yeah.
Think about doing this on a press tour and having to think of new things to say.
Leave Gaga alone.
Leave Gaga alone.
Oh, hello.
There could be a hundred people in the room.
Yeah.
And if Jake Shane's in it?
I'll believe in you.
I'm happy.
I'm fucking good.
I'm protected.
You're protected.
Hi.
So, Benny.
Yeah.
What brings you in today?
Okay.
Well, obviously Halloween with you, dreams.
And you know what?
I wanted to tell you today.
I feel like you were one of the only people that I also saw on the internet that
was like talking about OCD.
Do you have OCD?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
And it just made me feel so much better.
I don't know.
And I don't know.
I've talked about intrusive thoughts on.
the podcast before, but it was like, I don't know, I just feel like we don't talk about it enough.
We don't.
You talk about it was amazing.
So I guess I'm bringing that to the red table, but also I just like, I just want to spend
time with you in costume.
Well, how did your, how does, if you don't mind me asking, how does your OCD manifest?
Because OCD is a really isolating.
Yeah.
Disease.
It is.
Well, Terry has it too.
Uh-huh.
My boyfriend, Terry, I had to mention him early.
I'm sorry.
Mine is a lot of intrusive thoughts, which are really hard to describe to people.
If you describe them, you'll put us in jail.
100%.
That's why you have to get an OCD therapist if you're doing it.
Yes, who understands.
Or else it's like you're going to prison.
But yeah, I feel like it's that and really intense like perfectionism that led me to like sometimes like not want to make things, not put things out.
Like I just, I get so hyper-fixated on things.
It makes you lazy.
Yeah.
I feel like almost like completely, yeah, just stuck in my body.
Yeah.
It's like filled with sheer terror because like my pants don't fit right.
Right.
You know what I mean? I'm like, God damn it.
Or like there's a tiny stain right here.
Oh, don't even say stain right now.
Yeah, I won't.
Sorry.
You really look like Sabrina.
I'm bugging out.
Wait, you're like, wait, it's her.
Like, it's her.
Two drinks in and we're both, I'm like, Chapel, I love your work.
But I fucking love your work, girl.
I'm fucking guy.
Yeah.
I do wonder what I would say to her if I saw Chapel at something.
I met her the other day.
How was it?
Lovely.
Oh, my God.
I watched VMAs.
Lovely.
Yeah, it was perfect.
She loves her gaze.
Of course.
She loves her gaze.
Of course.
Yeah.
Yeah, you feel it.
Sabrina does too.
She's like, you freaking horny bastards.
Yeah.
Is my wig going up?
No, I think my, I'm having like shit in my...
You can't imagine how much sweat.
I, all over my body.
Busy.
Busy.
Hello.
Hey!
But yeah, so that's my OCD.
But it's really isolating.
Were you ever a girl, Stan?
Oh my God, of course.
And the ticks, that episode.
Yeah, where she, like, that was my OCD.
That's like how it manifested for me.
So, is that yours?
It's like numbers.
Numbers.
I used to cluck.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
I used to cluck, cluck, cluck.
Do you have, like, ticks?
Like, consistent ticks?
I would, like, count and cluck my mouth.
Oh, God, damn it.
Yeah.
Also, Cian, uh, Lena Dunham, do that.
I was like, oh, my God.
Yeah.
I'm not alone.
What's amazing.
Or like OCD rehab with Dr. Drew.
Yeah.
Oh, my God, yeah.
And the YouTubers, I'm obsessed with all the YouTubers that are just like, I feel like oddly.
Some of them have the, like, doctor thing.
I love when I see that on YouTube.
I'm like, oh, I'm at a hospital now.
Yeah.
I'm at the doctor's office.
So that kind of helped me
But no, I just, I feel like seeing you talk about it
And I don't know if like
I also always think about like moms with postpartum
Having them they get like it's very common
I think to have insane intrusive thoughts
Well not insane but like so many intrusive thoughts
During that time
It's so scary if you don't know what's going on
I don't know what they did in the 1800s
Well like when they didn't have Dr. Drew
Well they said like they were like
They shipped them away they hung them in Salem
Yeah and they were like here's a lobotomy
Oh we've got something just for you
Fresh off the market.
I always say they would have killed Mary Beth in like two minutes in Salem.
It would have taken her like but five and she would have gone fuck y'all.
Yeah.
She would have said, whatever.
I love this.
You with nails.
Wait, these are hard to maneuver.
How do you,
I'm looking at your nails.
I'm like, how do you do this?
Mine were so meant for a 12 year old girl.
Uh-huh.
Which I think is glamnetic.
We got to figure out the nail beds.
Is this glamnetic?
I think we're glamnetic girls.
What you know us?
We're glamnetic.
I'm like bugging out right.
now. I know. I love it. I'm like freaking the fuck out. I hope this is the most
unlistenable episode ever. People are going to be like what the fuck are they talking about. I actually
had a panic diet. I felt sick to my stomach. Listening. No, I feel at home with you. I feel at home with you
too. Yeah. In my heels. In your heels. Oh my God. Speaking of feeling well honestly what I was
about to say had nothing to do with feeling at home. I just wanted to switch topics. Same. I love it.
We've talked about like Salem. Salem. Starsborn trailer. Like it's kind of the main things that like
like for me.
Can we talk about overcompensating?
Oh my God,
yes.
Please.
For those who don't know,
it is Benny's new,
Amazon Prime original.
Yeah.
Okay, you nailed that.
Holy shit.
Right?
Okay, media trading.
And I didn't even have any.
I was just like, I know.
Yeah.
It stars Kyle McLaughlin,
Connie Britton,
Bonito Skinner,
Mary Beth Barone,
Kyah Gerber,
Owen Thiel.
Oh my God.
Okay, IMDB.
No,
you fucking hate that.
Yeah,
I'm so excited.
I just got back
and I play
a version of my
But you're joking.
Sorry.
I thought I was going to see the bottom of that.
I was like, that's my fucking girl.
No, but yeah, I play a version of myself in the closet.
So when we were talking about doing this pod, that's why I was like, I think we have to just be full pop star.
We have to be full pop star.
I need to get full makeup on in a wig.
Like, it's been a while.
But no, it was like a really truly unbelievable experience.
I feel like I learned so much about like my.
myself and the way I make things.
And I was so inspired by working with the cast and like, yeah, it's just the entire thing
feels honestly.
Like I just associated so many times because I'd be like, I wrote this scene like four and a half
years ago.
And now I'm seeing an actor that I like respected my whole life doing it.
And I'm kind of me, but not really me.
And then Mary Beth kind of looks like my sister, but it's not really her.
It's just, yeah.
So it's like a semi autobiographical.
Yeah.
I feel like I was inspired by like the feelings and what happened in college to me.
And then from there, you know, I feel like it's not that interesting to write a character that is someone exactly like you know.
It just, I don't know.
Right.
Jump off the page.
And it's not as fun.
Right.
It's like more fun to think of like, well, here's this new vessel.
Right.
Of like an idea that you want or a feeling that you want or a relationship that you want, like build a character out of that.
Right.
So it's like inspired by a lot of things.
But I keep telling people because they're like, who's playing me.
And I'm like, no one.
I don't think.
Oh, yeah.
But then don't ask.
I'm like, well.
This one's based up for you.
Just wait.
How do you get annoyed when someone's like who's playing me?
Well, no, I get more like, I'm like, oh, it's just not like that.
I feel like, and I just, if I was going to do that, yeah, I'd probably just tell them.
Right.
I'd be like, guess who's playing you?
Isn't that fun?
Yeah.
For my parents, it was just funny to tell them that it was Connie and Kyle.
But it's also not them.
It's like, you know.
Were they gagged though?
Oh, yeah.
My mom was like, holy shit.
I love Connie.
Everything.
Oh, and they were.
Britain.
Sorry, I can't first name her.
I don't know her.
No, you have to.
It's just Connie.
She's everything.
Friday Night Lights was everything to me.
And this show is about me, like, playing football in high school and then not doing it in college and kind of like trying to, I think also kind of like it is the OCD thing of like trying to be perfect.
And I thought perfect meant straight.
So I would do anything to remain in the closet.
Like I did everything to do it.
And then I just kind of ran out of ideas because I fell in love with a guy.
When did you come out like in real life?
I came out when I was 21.
Okay.
So I end of college.
Wow.
Yeah.
I really hunkered down in there.
You hunkered down.
When did you come out?
To my parents in fourth grade.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
That's incredible.
Yeah, they were lovely.
That's so beautiful.
They were lovely.
But then I asked for a toy right after.
Yeah.
Well, of course.
And my mom said,
These are nags.
Yeah, they're like,
bring back nags.
Bring back nagging.
Yeah.
My mom was like, what?
No.
And then I know something that can make me feel better about being different.
Yeah.
And she was like, well,
she better and involve money.
Yeah.
And then she was like, do you want me to tell your dad that we had this conversation?
I was like, I'm pretty sure he can guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I think he might know.
And then I came out to my peers when I was like 15, 16.
That's great.
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
It was, it was, I mean, it didn't really feel like coming out because I was like
floopping around like screaming Beyonce.
I know.
I probably like, honestly, I could have.
And I think the reaction would have been like, well, duh, you're blasting Gaga.
Right.
Were you a little monster?
In a Volkswagen bug.
You can't imagine the kind of monster I was.
I was so, like, I played bad romance at my birthday party and had to like tell everyone I
thought she was sexy.
And I think Gaga was gorgia.
But it was just funny because straight guys saying that to them.
That was when she was like Joe Calderone.
Yeah.
Which I should have been today, I'm realizing.
Oh, Joe Calderon.
What was the VMA she did that for again?
She presented some award.
So something crazy happened at that.
It was the born-this-way when it's the same one that Beyonce announced Blue Ivy.
Right.
Yes.
Yes.
And they cut to Lady Gaga.
Her singing.
Literally.
Well, she's the mother.
But it was so funny because that one,
everyone else had kind of entered the Gaga era
of dressing up like in full moments
and then all of a sudden Gaga's in boy drag
She's Joe Calderon
She like genius
She was like, wait I'm not playing with you
You're gonna take my bed
I'm not dressing up like popcorn anymore
What was your favorite Gaga look of back in the day?
You knew you'd ask me this
Yeah I start crying
Okay the McQueen to the VMAs
I was gonna say anything McQueen that she would do
Was so perfect
In armadillo shoes like that to me
I remember just being like
Fuck
fucking bitch
We were the one guy in the room
Who Rupert.
But I, yeah, that was
shocking to me
and what's another look?
I loved in the
Paparazzi music video
when she was drinking
out of the teacups
She's in like this bee
outfit or sorts.
Like there's like these small glasses.
Scars guard?
Yeah.
The lover in that.
Yeah.
We all forget.
I just forgot until you mentioned that.
Isn't that crazy?
That is crazy.
He is the hot
one of the hottest people
because I used to like watch
True Blood when I was a kid.
Oh, you mean porn?
Yeah, porn.
Yeah, Ryan Quentin.
And I was like, I want that.
I watched porn.
Like, I don't know.
Like, I was just like, everyone was begging for Alexander Scarsgard's dick in the show.
And I was like, so that's what it's supposed to be like.
Well, of course.
Yeah.
It has to be like vampires in the South.
Yeah, and begging.
Oh, that show was everything.
Oh, it was so good.
And that went right into Hung, which was also my porn.
I used to Google Hung sex scenes.
So I never watched it.
It's crazy that no, there's no singular life.
Yeah, there's no singular life.
There's no singular experience on her.
Because once I googled what that show was about, I was like, oh, that's what hung means?
Like hung, sex scene.
Yeah, I'm tuning in.
It took like three seasons to see it, but it was cool to be there for that.
Right.
It was like the reveal of Gossip Girl.
Also, like, Californi-Cation had some cool sex scenes.
No. Nip-Tuck.
Nip-Tuck had great sex scenes.
Yeah.
We were raised on, like, some of the best TV there's ever been.
Because, like, I was raised with, like, if you go on Porn Hub, you're, I was in the PC era, so you will get a virus.
So I had to Google like daily motion sex scenes.
Oh my God.
Mr. Mann.
Yeah, did you?
Yeah, totally.
Daily motion.
Of course.
Or like, um, Vidster.
What is it called?
Vidster.
Vidster.
And then you're like, I don't care what this gives the computer.
Right.
I'm watching it.
I'm watching it.
I'm watching it.
I'm watching it.
I want time did give my parents a gay virus.
Good.
And they said, they said, we don't care what you're watching, but you cannot watch it on the computer because
we will get a virus, which I thought was so.
It's so beautiful.
Amazing of them.
What a perfect, wow, I love your parents.
Right?
They're amazing.
Yeah, I want to meet them.
Yeah, they said, we don't.
Like this.
Yeah, they said, my mom would be like, oh, you're amazing.
Mine is just, my parents live in Idaho, and they're always like, weren't you coming home, and I'm just like, look at me.
Why am I not coming home?
What was it like?
So, did you, were you raised in Idaho?
Yeah, so born and raised, same house, like, my whole life in Boise, Idaho.
I'm sorry, this wig is seriously amazing.
Isn't it crass?
Like, look at us.
It's, okay.
I just interrupted you.
But your tits are sitting amazing.
Really good.
Because it's like the air is gone, but I kind of like it.
I'm talking to you this way.
Oh, I'm dripping sweat down my entire body.
It feels like we're at a club.
No, I am.
We are.
I almost thought poppers, but Louise told me we couldn't do poppers on screen.
Oh.
Silencing gay guys.
You don't see that every day, but it's scary when you see it.
I do.
I'm going to miss this.
Whoever made this is really good.
Mani.
Yeah, girl.
Okay.
Can I have some more red wine?
Red wine super.
No.
That was really good.
I was like, that's not me.
I don't know.
Baby can't sleep, baby I know.
Got me espresso.
And that I bop around?
Yes, that was good.
That's what she got.
If I was, like, I get it now.
I'm like, this is wearing this.
I want to be on stage all day.
All day, bopping around.
I'm giving it to you.
Please.
I'm putting it in the package.
I will wear that on tour.
I'm putting it in your bag.
Wait, would you be a special guest at my tour?
I would die.
Louise.
Whenever you want.
I would die.
to come out?
Like would you do like
Minneapolis?
Like a Philly show?
I love Philly.
Okay.
Yes.
Oh my God.
I think that's perfect.
You'll actually do Philly.
I'll fly you out real nice.
Oh God.
I'll put you up.
Put me up at the top place.
Oh, thank you, Manny.
Philly cheese steak together.
You know I've never had a Philly cheese steak in Philly.
There's so much you haven't done drag.
You haven't had that.
And you know, I've never seen drag race either, which feels wrong.
I think that it's really, this is my new take.
I think it's special.
to have some things you haven't seen yet.
I haven't seen Wicked on stage.
I can't wait to see it.
That's not to say I, it just, we haven't had our moment yet,
and I can't wait for us to have it.
And I can't wait for you to watch drag race whenever you want to.
Thank you.
There's upwards of 500,000 hours of drag race out there for you.
Well, it's intimidating because they're like, okay,
if you watch Drag Race, you have to watch Untucked.
See, I don't, that seems like a lot off the top.
And I'm like, how am I can't do all of this.
No, let's tiptoe in.
All Stars 2 is like, I think some of the best television I've ever seen in my life.
Okay, so it's all stars you since season two.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's kind of just unreal.
Right.
Like, I, that TV, I remember watching with Terry and being like, this is what TV can be.
Right.
Do you have a favorite?
It's not TV.
It's not TV.
Do you have a favorite TV show since you just made your own?
Oh my God.
Some of my favorites, Penn 15, I think, is perfect.
So I didn't know that stood for penis.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's as simple as that.
It's as simple as that.
Sometimes it can be that simple.
Well, how long has the show been in creation for?
Like, when did you?
start, when did you start pitching it?
I'm so curious, honestly.
I started pitching it, I think, in 2020.
Right.
I wrote it in 2019, the pilot.
And then I started working on the second episode once 824, Strong Baby and Amazon were on.
Okay.
So, Amazon bought it.
And then.
So, cunt, it's A24?
It's con.
It's really, well, everyone, I got really lucky.
I feel like everyone keeps telling me my showrunner, Scott King, keeps reminding me.
He's like, it's not, the people aren't always this lovely the whole time.
But I just feel like the project, I feel really fortunate.
And then I feel like it attracted people who wanted to tell like,
kind of like an earnest story.
Like it is a hard comedy.
But there is like a sweetness to it that I really wanted.
And I feel like I've,
I loved about girls.
And I love about Fleabag.
And like, I just feel like there are so many things on TV that almost sometimes feel like so snarky,
which I love that.
And I love, of course, like, I think that's amazing.
But I just don't feel like that felt like me or what I wanted to make.
So, um, is yours more like straight comedy with like a bit of heart?
Yeah, I don't even know how to describe it.
Yeah, it feels like it's really dramatic for sure.
But yeah, like a hard comedy.
Like, we have fun.
It feels at times like kind of American Pie.
Like, we're really going for it.
And I think, yeah, because I feel like for it to feel also like me and kind of my sense of humor, like I love a full moment, a full gag.
And is it like, can I ask you if it's a half hour or an hour?
Half hour.
A half hour.
Yeah.
Could you imagine I do an hour long comedy?
I'm a huge fan of half hours.
I'm not going to punish.
issue like that. No, I've been in my comedy era lately. Have you ever seen hacks? Oh, I mean,
fabulous. It's my favorite show. Yeah, it's perfect. It's perfect. Well, I mean, yeah, and everyone on that
team, like, I throw up. Because I literally can't breathe. Um, everyone on that team is so
brilliant and I know how hard they work. And we had a few writers from that writer's room and the
writer's room for overcompensating. And yeah, it's just, it's like geniuses, brilliant. I'm like so
happy where comedy's going. And you're, me too. It's happy in a moment.
It really is.
I mean, you know what I wish we're still around with the other two.
Oh, also just perfect.
Perfect.
Yeah.
Perfect.
Perfect.
Also just perfect acting acting too.
Really good acting.
Actors and hacks.
Like, yeah, I feel like comedy's having like a really resurgence.
Because I think people need that little break and that little like, yeah.
Okay, can I ask you this?
Would you prefer week to week or binge?
I don't know what anything is or what it will be.
But I'm just curious like your take on this.
Do you want it all?
A binge.
I want a binge too.
Like, I waited for hacks to all be out.
I know.
And so I could have my moment.
Well, I didn't start hacks until someone called me and was like, it was after the season three finale.
Yeah.
And someone was like, I think it was Zach.
And he was like, you must watch this fucking show right now.
It's you are going to be obsessed.
And I was obsessed.
Yeah.
And because it reminds me of Joan Rivers, who I love.
Oh, God.
Raised me.
Raised me.
Yeah.
And then once I got to the end of season three, like that season three finale, I was like,
ooh!
Yeah.
Because Hannah just,
I would.
Chew her up.
Wouldn't you?
Chew her right up.
Well, oh, don't say that to me right now.
Don't say that to me while I have my contacts in.
I forget that you have contacts in.
They look so natural.
You like me with blue?
I love you with blue.
I feel like that meme of the like Miley Cyrus,
the like full blue.
Yeah, the blue eyes really scare me.
The second, maybe that's a little bit of my OCD too is just sheer panic at which
eye to look in.
Right.
I'll never know.
Oh, I'm really bad at eye contact.
So I go here?
Yeah.
I pick one, but then they're like, what's going on here?
Right.
You know, I'm like, okay, well, I love you.
It's so fun.
Can you believe we're just sweating out here?
No, I'm, every part of my body is dripping.
My hair is getting attached to everything.
Fully, like, felt a drip in my butthole.
I can't stress that enough.
I cannot stress that enough.
Wait, so did we even talk about you being born and raised in Idaho?
Like, did we even get into that?
I don't think so, but I love that.
Okay.
We just moved on.
We were like, but it's so us that we're just like, yeah, okay.
We moved on.
It was, it was definitely, um, confusing, I think.
And my family is so lovely and amazing.
And, but I think no matter what they were doing in the home going to school, I learned something completely different.
Right.
And I went to Catholic school.
So, you know, I learned about like, Sodomites in the second grade and, like, being stoned to death.
Right.
And I'm like, huh.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
What?
But, yeah, I feel like I was just striving to be, like, loved so much.
Right.
It's all I wanted.
And I felt like the only way to do that was to, like, play sports.
and I just completely like,
I think I, there's this really amazing book called The Velvet Rage
and it's kind of like the queer experience of that moment at school
when you feel like you're different.
And in that moment, I didn't lean into it.
I, like, killed that whole side of me.
Right.
So I feel like even this is like me getting back into that.
Right.
Like, I still, I don't know.
And I picked a boyfriend that also loves that and wants to,
and, like, encourages it in me.
But I love Idaho.
I think it's a beautiful place.
I hate the politics.
I think they're disgusting, but I, yeah, I, like, I go back and I see my parents and I love them.
And, um, yeah, just, you go to?
Mm-mm.
So, uh, no.
I don't.
I really stay, like, in my house and go and walks with my parents.
What, like, food is Idaho known for?
Movies were my, like, saving great.
Right, right.
Um, what, food?
Uh, french fries, potatoes.
Stop!
Where the Tater State.
Is it amazing?
Oh, incredible.
Like, I mean, honestly, at this point, I'm like, come.
Well, it's, I'm like, come.
Well, I'm not.
I kind of want to go.
No, I think you have to go.
Come on tour.
I mean, they'll go crazy.
Like, Boise is not what the rest of Idaho tends to be.
Like, it is, it's a metropolis.
The biggest city in the world.
What you said, sorry, I should interrupt you.
No.
I'm like so anxious.
I really love you.
I'm so happy you're here.
Oh my God.
I'm just hope I'm doing a good job.
Me bullying you into a Halloween special.
No, no, like what I told.
I'm going to do it.
To you.
She is the biggest ride fan.
No.
Are you serious?
Oh my God.
She goes, do not.
She won't even look me in the eye.
She goes, do not.
She gave me a talk last night and she goes,
do not embarrass me tomorrow.
Stop.
Do not fucking do it.
Do not.
There's no one in this world she loves more than you, Mary Beth, and Terry.
Oh my God.
She's a barone.
Bleep it.
Wait, that's so beautiful.
Thank you.
It's bleep it.
Do you know this is the only other podcast I've ever listened to?
Is therapist?
Yes.
You only want to listen to with you and like a few others.
I love it.
I'll dabble.
If like a friend is on one, I'm like, I love it.
Oh, and Owen Thiel's new one.
Oh, great.
He's great.
I met him for the first time the other day.
He's so lovely.
Oh, my baby.
And he's in overcompensating.
I know.
I'm so excited to see him.
And his boyfriend, Jared, I think kind of made all these outfits happen.
So it's all kind of a part of the.
Well, he made, um, yeah, he's Sabrina stylist.
Oh, right, right, right.
This is all the ecosystem.
But that really means so much.
Thank you.
I can't believe you listen to us.
It's gibberish.
We're in the car.
It doesn't make any sense.
He doesn't make any sense.
Wait, can I just say something to you?
Us, but we were in school together.
Wouldn't that have been crazy?
It would have been crazy because we both...
In the classroom?
We both...
We both...
We were they going to sit by?
Like, you know what I mean?
Not to like gas us up.
No, but like...
We would have had fun.
It would have been a storm.
Oh, it would have been crazy.
It would have been a hurricane.
Yeah.
But we both denounced our gayness in different ways.
Like, I was out.
Yeah, wait.
Tell me about this.
But I, like, well, what you said were, like, being queer in school and realizing
you were different.
Like, I knew I was gay.
It's like never do too much.
But I think I...
I still hated it.
it. Like, do you know what I mean?
Of course. That's like the whole, I mean, sometimes I still find myself being like,
like, I remember on my first date with Terry this is kind of dark, but I was like, oh, his
voice is like higher than I thought it would be, which is like sick.
Like that's a sickness. And I catch myself thinking that all the time.
Yeah. And like, and I honestly am not even scared to say that because that's just like an
internalized thing that like I do.
It's learned from literally all media. Right.
Of like masculinity is the good thing. Right.
Femininity is the bad thing. And I was also a gays girl and I still am. So like I have all
girlfriends and so see.
who their boyfriends are.
I'm like, well, that's what I want.
Like, I want to be.
You want to be treated like dirt.
Treated like dirt.
Yeah.
And, like, I, I think I, like,
I didn't have gay friends until, like, last year.
Yeah.
Like, crazy.
Well, I, I don't know if you felt this.
I think because of when I came out,
I was the, how late it was,
I was really intimidated by having gay friends at times because I felt like they were
so far ahead of me.
And the whole thing felt like a master class.
I'm like, I just want to, like, enjoy it.
Like, yes, I'm like, I'm like,
everything you're talking about from our childhoods, I loved all of this.
Right.
We have enough to connect on.
You don't have to, like, tell me all the rules of this.
You know what I mean?
I just felt like it was all being hammered down on me in a way that I was like,
I think I do need to learn some of this on my own.
And I feel like I couldn't be a part of the group until I knew everything.
So I was like, okay, I guess I'll like go back to college.
Right.
And figure it out of my own.
And figure it out.
And then be able to, you know, come back.
I get so insecure that I'm not like far enough along the lines of like,
being gay, like, you know, not knowing how to...
Isn't that crazy that that's, like, the thought now that we have of like,
God, am I gay enough?
No, but like, as I sit here, am I gay enough?
Like, I can assure you, we are.
Yeah, everyone watching's like, yeah.
No, but like, you know, like, it's just like there's so many gay things that I'm like,
I just spent my first weekend with poppers.
Yeah.
Just.
And how fun is that?
So fun.
You can come to it whenever you get to it.
But, like, gay sex is confusing.
Yeah.
It's all confusing.
And it's like, I, I,
And like sometimes you, I don't know.
It's just hard.
Yeah, it is hard.
And I think it's like also you see like how gay people are reflected in culture sometimes.
You're like, oh, do I have to be that in order to be the thing that you want me to be?
Or then, you know, I don't know.
Then you see other things where it's like still the like deep voice and masculinity is so like idolized in so many ways.
And I'm like, God, I just, what do you want?
I also feel like.
I want to get this out of my brain.
Like I want to just be able to be everything I am and feel good enough in that.
but it's sometimes, I think so, like, you know,
this is just like the queer experience, I think.
It's comforting to hear other people be like, no, same.
Yeah.
But like I just, I think what I really internalized was like, okay,
so like the gay best friend trope in media,
it's like, okay, so there can only be one gay person in the friend group.
Well, of course.
So I found myself.
Only one gay person can have a special.
Right.
Almost hating gay people because I wanted to, I was so insecure in my position as the gay friend.
Of course.
Do you know what I mean?
And it's like, now I have so many gay friends.
My best friends are gay and it's amazing.
And like, where have you guys been on my life?
Because we can actually talk about things that I had to Google on Reddit before.
Yeah.
Or that girls were teaching me.
And I was like, I think that's wrong.
Like we have an episode of that in Overcombin City where it's like, oh, I don't know if that was what I needed to do.
But thank you for like doing the research for me.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I so feel that.
Like truly in every way where you're just like, yeah.
And I feel like that's where like the.
gay competition kind of comes from.
It's because everyone wants their girlfriends,
everyone wants to be accepted, but then like...
You get scared.
We still feel like we're going to be rejected, I think,
and that there can only be one where it's like,
that's just not...
It's interesting.
Mary Beth had a friend, and he was an actor,
and he was straight, and all of his friends,
they were so excited for each other
with the roles they were getting.
And I was like, whoa.
Yeah.
I just, my brain couldn't even comprehend that.
I was like, it's so not,
I think, how, like, queer people
and straight women would come to that.
I think we would immediately be like, fuck.
There's like one less role.
I'm scared.
I won't be able to like pay rent.
You know?
It's like we're all like,
well, you got it because you're more like lovable and prettier and better.
It's, but he's so,
it just completely like didn't care.
We're just excited for his friends.
And I'm like, oh, I wish it could be like that.
I just feel like media did make it seem like it couldn't be.
It couldn't be.
But I do think we are getting to a place now where it can be.
But yeah, oh my God.
They're like, yeah, it just feels like there can only be one.
At all time.
And then if that one is.
there that we have to like slaughter them.
Right.
You know, which is.
And I think it's like the same thing with like women as well.
Yeah, of course.
It's like the same, I don't know, straight men have it so fucking easy.
I'm sorry.
Two women just talking it out right now.
Yeah, like really talking it out.
There can be multiple pop girls.
That's what we're proving today.
That is what we're proving today.
You know what?
I think that's what this summer proved.
I agree.
It was beautiful to see.
Can't multiple people have a moment?
And all three of them had a moment.
Yeah.
Charlie.
And rooted for each other in the moments.
It was beautiful to see.
This summer was one of the best.
summers of my life.
Oh, I was on set a lot.
So I don't know if it registered as a summer.
Okay.
But totally.
So you should maybe go to Australia for a second.
I think I have to.
Or like, Terry and I were like,
should we take a weekend trip?
And I'm like, we're pathetic.
Like, we just need longer than that.
Right.
Yeah, no, it was a perfect summer.
It was brat summer.
It was Brat summer.
You believe it?
I just didn't like hook up with people thought I could,
but I started prep.
Amazing.
Great.
Love it.
Fabulous.
So that was like,
Sabrina's on prep.
I'm being, I'm being Brad.
Sabrina Garbender being like, I love prep.
I love prep.
I do think Sabrina would be like,
oh, I love gay porn.
Yeah, she would.
She'd be like, oh, that's so fun.
Yeah, she'd be like, you guys, you got it.
I love that.
And just, like, go out there and have, like,
great, like, consensual safe sex.
It's so fabulous.
Like, what's cooler than that?
Let's get through it.
I do feel like I'm getting to the bottom of some things right now.
I feel a little more her and understood.
It's just, yeah.
Who is yelling?
Oh, well, you know that someone's here getting face tape put on.
And so I can't stress enough that someone's turning into a different person.
I'm really excited to see this person.
We're going to meet someone very, yeah.
Every now and then a contact goes in the wrong way, so it's fully blurry.
And I'm like, oh, I'm going blind.
And I'm like, worth it.
It was worth it for this.
This is like the most I've ever talked about gay culture ever.
Well, that I'm honored.
I wonder why.
The only way we can figure stuff out and like, it feels like almost like we should be able to like ask questions and like.
Well, I just don't think hating each other is helping.
Right.
So that to me, I'm like, oh, I just, I don't know.
It feels a lot better to, like, root for other queer people.
Right.
And be excited by that.
And I don't think it's threatening.
I think it's exciting.
And I think then if something also, like, if someone queer in media is doing something that feels, like, harmful, I think that's also, like, a moment for conversation.
Right.
And change.
And I don't know.
Yeah.
I feel like, yeah, I think we could change the world.
But, like, but, like, I feel like sometimes, like, oh, wait, can I hit my puff?
I'm so sorry.
I need a, I'm drunk and I need it.
No, you have to.
Chapel needs her puff.
You can't understand how drunk I'd be if I finished that.
Oh, I'm on my second class.
Full hot sweat.
I'm wondering, do you think any of the Power Puff girl is Puff?
Oh, of course.
I think Bubbles.
No, Bubbles is smoking like.
Oh, I bet like Chapel Charlie Sabrina.
Immediately I'm like, let's talk cartoons.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Well, I know Charlie smokes just raw dog sags.
Yeah.
Sabrina, I think there's no freaking way.
There's no way.
Chapel, yeah.
Yeah.
I think at the club.
Maybe not consistently, though.
Right.
Her vocals require, like, some, like, hardcore singing.
But you know, she didn't have singing lessons until she was, like,
until, like, a few years ago, I don't know if that's fake news, but, like, that's what I read.
There's something crazy about me.
I just found out about singing lessons.
I didn't know this was, like, a thing.
No, that's a thing.
I thought you're just, like, you have an incredible voice or you don't.
It's, to me, singing lessons are, like, improv classes.
Like, you can't, like, teach.
I go, oh, okay.
You can't teach, I mean, I guess you can.
At a certain point, it's like you're kind of walking in with what you've got.
Right.
And now let's like, so like in Ariana Grande, she's doing vocal lessons and it's like, you're already a prodigy.
Let's make, you can just do anything.
Like breath control.
Okay, got it.
Like let's, are the bones there.
Yeah.
Bones are good.
And the bones are good.
Great.
I love that song.
Oh, me too.
I love Marin Morris.
It's the bones.
I loved her skirt moment.
I thought that was iconic.
Yeah.
And the way she's handled.
She's a total legend to me.
How'd she handle that?
I think she's just, like, posting about it and she's like, this fucking skirt, which I think is amazing.
It's like, God, damn it.
Yeah.
I love it.
I didn't know she was a country singer.
Well, kind of both, almost, right?
I mean, the middle.
Can I just say that?
The middle.
Yeah, I said it.
I don't fucking care.
Not only the middle, but middle.
Middle.
You, you in the middle.
Do you remember that one?
Right.
You know what I mean?
Well, that was good.
That was good.
Vocal coach.
So the bones are there.
The bones are there.
I love watching vocal coaches on YouTube.
What is Jake Shane watching on YouTube?
I don't watch YouTube.
Or like, what do you watch?
What are you watching?
Okay.
I got to know this.
Okay, so right now.
I think you watch everything in a way.
Right, I do.
Right.
I just finished English teacher.
Well, I can't wait to watch.
Amazing.
Amazing.
Brian Jordan is incredible.
Yes, Brian Jordan Alvarez.
Someone in Toronto said that I was him.
They're like, oh, I love your work, Brian Jordan Alvarez.
And I was like, okay.
So white gays totally, but just we couldn't look less alike.
Like you guys don't look alike at all.
No at all, but I'm like, I love that for you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
But the English future is amazing.
Oh, he's brilliant.
He's brilliant.
It's, there's two more episodes left of season one.
So if you want to wait to binge, there's...
I think I'm going to, because it'll be, like, magical for me.
It's...
I know it will.
There's this character in episode five, you will die.
You'll see.
Pay attention to media.
You guys got to know this stuff.
She's amazing, but they both,
put me on to English teacher.
Oh, I'm so excited.
It's amazing.
If I could properly turn, I would look at you in the eye and say that's amazing.
But I'm watching English teacher.
I'm watching English teacher.
I'm watching slow horses right now.
Okay.
I might stop it to watch industry.
Oh, my fuck.
Industry is so good.
I'm so obsessed.
I haven't seen the new season yet, but I'm...
Apparently it's the best season on TV right now.
Oh, yeah.
But I just...
They don't play any games.
They don't.
And I just, I watched season one in 2020, and then...
Season two didn't come out forever because it was 2020.
Yeah.
And then I like lost track.
And then all of a sudden, everyone's like, industry, industry,
and I'm like, he's in industry now.
Like, oh yeah.
Big Daddy's there.
I guess I got to check it out.
I never watched Game of Thrones.
Are you mad?
No, I understand.
It's just, again, it's like, it's intimidating, but I think I'll get to it.
Like, I went my whole life not watching Lord of the Rings until like three years ago.
I never saw Lord of the Rings.
Are you mad?
No.
Not at all.
You're going to have an amazing Christmas.
Is it good?
Yes.
I watched it with Terry's mom.
It was literally like all through.
It's amazing.
It's incredible.
It doesn't really peak my fancy.
I think it like could.
Really?
What's it about?
Can I just say something?
Liv Tyler.
She's in it.
It's about this fellowship of just guys getting the band back together and just figuring
stuff out.
Really?
That's what it is.
It's just like a group of guys with a similar mission.
All come from different, like indignity.
And Farrow, Halsey's, Hopeless Fountain Kingdom.
Is that what that was called?
Yeah.
Like, that's kind of the vibe.
I don't know.
It's like elves and there were a bunch of wars.
I didn't totally get all of it.
But I had such a good time, and I love Vigo Mortensen.
So that was me with Game of Thrones.
It's like I'm not really understanding what's going on.
Once season six hits, okay, so basically here's my thing with Game of Thrones.
Seasons one through four or five, whatever.
People talk real nasty ill on those last seasons.
Okay, so the one before the final season.
I'm actually being an actor or writer about that.
Oh, I know.
It's rough.
So hateful.
I mean, it wasn't great.
It wasn't great.
And another one added to it.
Yeah.
It wasn't awesome just because, like, I'm not going to spoil it for you.
You could, and I would forget.
Okay.
I know the red wedding.
It's like, it's total black.
Okay, so I didn't even, like, I was so, like, not paying attention while that happened that I was like, oh.
Yeah.
You know, like, and then I was like the red wedding.
I'm like, did I watch that?
Like, I don't like.
When was that?
When was that?
They're like, all your favorite characters died.
Because the only person I cared about was Denarius.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
She's the only one.
She lived.
She lived to tell the tale.
Or did she?
She was the dragon tamer, right?
She was the dragon tamer.
Tamer, and she's the only one in the show I rooted for
because, like, I'm pretty sure
the kingdom was us going, was she
the Dragon Tamer or what?
As we're like, gay should have more rights.
We're like, fuck my fucking brass.
Okay, but, um, yeah.
She's the best character in that show.
Like, she's amazing.
And, like, the only reason I watched that show was
for every time she was, like,
with a dragon.
And so, like, everything else I was like,
snooze.
Unless it was like, unless it was, like,
unless it was, like, Aria.
Like, I fucked with Aria a lot.
And Sansa, like, I really fucked with her.
I know that I fuck with Sansa.
Yeah, she's everything.
I think I know who that is.
Queen of the Norris.
Totally.
I love her.
Yeah.
You know what?
It's kind of like industry to me in that way of like, I, I love all the drama.
The second they start talking finance, I'm looking on my phone.
Right, but I don't know what they're talking about.
There is one episode of industry about finance that I was like, do you remember the episode?
It's crazy.
Stocks can go like that.
Where she was, I forget the, the market can change on a dime.
On a fucking dime.
And that is something I learned.
That's about me espresso.
That whole album, honestly.
Right.
It's just such a joy.
It's such a fucking joy.
Does I feel like she made it in two minutes?
And I say that with like, that's the best albums to me right now where it's just like,
this was so fucking easy and delicious.
Thank you next.
Exactly.
And I know it took so long and like absolute geniuses.
I don't know a thank you next took that long because she did sweeten her and then
right after she did thank you next.
Oh, I do remember that time.
So like sometimes like the best like there is.
What a crazy time to be an Ari fan.
That was nuts for them.
Yeah.
And I'm such an Ari fan.
I really like I love the work.
But like the stand stands.
That must have.
just spent a fucking crazy year. I mean, when you're a stand.
I joined them in the middle. I will say that.
And you're, like, you're, the person
you're standing is, like, on top, like.
Me during Chromatica? Give me a break.
Full body fucking chills. Meet us during Brat summer.
Give me a break. Come on. What a huge win for the girls.
Like, I just remember the day Brat came out and I was like,
things are different now. Do you know what I mean? Like, I was in New York and
Louise, Louise was like. Can I just say? I snuck a little listen to her.
Well, this will come out post remix album.
Oh, I mean, dear God.
It's that good.
Yeah.
It's like as good.
I love it as much as I love Brad.
It's nuts.
I'm so curious to see who's on the,
I think about it all the time remix.
I think you're gonna be really happy.
Like I'm so happy that,
or I'm gonna be so happy.
That song was like,
because I remember her describing it
in the therapist office
and then like actually getting to listen to it.
I was like, yeah.
Great episode by the way.
Thank you.
My favorite episode of television.
Really?
Thank you so much.
I was so scared, shitless.
I was so intimidated.
I've never been so much.
Well, Charlie looks at you.
like this while you tell the story.
Yes.
Yes.
And I'm like,
am I cool?
No, exactly.
I'm like,
are you liking it?
Yeah, like, do you like it?
Do you like,
when she laughed,
you're like, okay.
And then she goes, gotcha.
Gotcha.
And I'm like, yes, thank fucking God.
No, she's incredible.
What, the two of you together?
What a force?
What a force?
No, she is just,
but what's your favorite song off brat?
It changes so often.
Right now.
It was actually funny.
I,
I heard 360 a long time.
Like, she had made that a long time ago.
And I think I've probably listened to it
20,000 times. I just think it's a perfect, easy, it's like so tight and it has no, like,
it's just a perfect song. So I love that song. I think everything is romantic is like unbelievable.
Me too. And that, when that starts playing, everything is. And sometimes when back to back plays,
I'm like, I could kill someone. To kill someone. I don't know who, but someone who's done something
really fucked up to one of my girls. I used to listen to back to back. Um, not in the airport. I know
Apple's the airport song, but I would listen to back to back in the airport. And I'm just
strut around.
Yeah.
Because they would be...
Walking past the Lego story at JFK.
Yeah, it's like...
I don't know what, but you know what I mean.
Yes.
What's your favorite airport snack?
Oh my God.
Well, Shake Shack.
I'll just go fucking ham in an airport.
Or like Wetzels.
Get your tits up.
Yeah.
I love Wetzel's pretzels at LaGuardia.
I think they...
I don't know if they have my new one.
No, the new one's fabulous.
Really? That's what I heard, but I'm traumatized from the old one.
I landed out.
I felt like I was up in the air with George Clooney.
I was like, this is so fabulous.
Do you know what I mean?
I love him so much.
But JFK, I'm like, could all these things be farther apart?
Right.
You're crazy for this.
I hate JFK.
I also hate LAX.
Yeah.
I don't, I like Newark a lot.
I like, I like European airports.
Really?
Me looking like this going, I like Europe.
I just do.
I like all the shopping there.
Okay.
I like Heathrow.
I'm at a mall.
I like he throw.
I'm like, I didn't know I was at a shop.
I'm at the Mall of America.
This is incredible.
I hate the Paris airport, though.
Charles de Gaul.
the set of Von Dutch.
It's the set of Von Dutch.
That's where they shot Von Dutch.
I think it's the first music video ever shot there.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
Why did they shoot it there?
Paris.
Brat.
Fucker.
You know what I mean?
I don't know, exactly.
But it's beautiful.
It almost looks like you can't place what time it was made.
I don't know.
It has like a modern, but also early 2000s.
But also like kind of like, I don't know, it feels like the 70s too.
We'll talk about far apart.
Everything is far apart at that airport.
it was really hard for me.
But there is a Chanel.
You know what I mean?
Like that's what's cool.
I think I did shop at Hermes there once, not to be like...
I can see that.
I can picture that.
And I bought a tie that's still in the box.
Are you getting bitten alive out here?
I can't even tell you the sweat.
Yeah.
So I'm the sweat tour.
Uh-huh.
You are the sweat tour.
Yeah, we are the sweat tour.
And you've been to the sweat tour.
Yeah.
Have you gone yet?
I can't go.
I'm on tour.
You're literally on your own sweat tour.
No, I'm on my own sweat tour.
What's your tour called?
Thera Plus Live.
Perfect.
And no one's going to be sweating.
Someone would say a perfect name.
No one's going to be sweating because the AC's going to be on full ball.
I can't.
I hate it.
Oh, do you know how hard it is to have.
Okay, so this is good you do your podcast alone.
Uh-huh.
Because Mary Beth Brody, who I do my podcast with, um, she is so goddamn cold.
Like, she'll turn blue.
So it's either I'm red or she's blue.
So we just trade off.
Okay, but let me just say, when you are cold, you can always add layers.
That's what I'm saying?
When you were a, put on a coat, baby.
Put on a blanket.
I've got tons of coats.
I've got tons of jackets.
That's not fair.
Uh-uh.
It's not fair.
And then the shame, no one's going to shame you for being cold.
The shame people, this was so hard.
I had just, um, I just got to Toronto where we shot overcompensating.
And I'm like hanging out with the cast and someone in the cast, we're at this bar.
And you know, sometimes just outside of America, it's like, oh, we don't do AC here.
Right.
It's just random.
It'll just be like, no, sorry.
Right.
I'm like, it's 90.
What do you mean?
Right.
So I'm inside.
And then a cast member looks at me and he goes, it is really hot in here, isn't it?
I was like, I can't believe you just did that to me.
I was just like, that's the meanest thing anyone's ever done to me in my life.
Because I had full drip sweat.
Right.
I'm like, you have sweat shamed me in a way I can't even talk about.
I have to go.
I went to the bathroom.
I put napkins on my head, all my bronzers coming off.
It's just a total mess.
It's not nice.
I was embarrassed.
You can't sweat shame someone.
No, that's my, that's so fucked up.
Well, speaking of things that make you angry, I would like to ask you before we get into the tummy what's wrongs.
I can't wait.
What are you therapist about today?
What am I therapist about?
I had this thought today in meeting you.
Sometimes Mary Beth and I talk about this where we'll meet someone and I'm like,
if anyone has ever been mean to you or spoken ill, it makes me so mad.
And I like feel sick in my stomach.
But I think that's because I'm a Scorpio.
I'm Scorpio!
Literally, wait, that's amazing.
I've never hit that note.
Wait, oh my God, what day?
October 27th.
November 3rd.
Oh, you're a November Scorpio.
Don't even start.
You don't even know what that means.
You don't even know what that fucking means.
Oh, what is Terry?
I listen to the Charlie up.
You're not even that into it.
You thought I didn't acknowledge the word.
I'm acknowledging the work.
I listened.
Terry's a Scorpio too.
Oh, my God.
When's his birthday?
Well, this is so funny because I say this to people and then immediately they're like,
you're fucking sex.
And I'm like, we're at lunch.
You know, like you're being crazy.
He's the 12th.
Of November.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
So you're both November Scorpio.
Yeah.
Does that feel, is there something about that?
November Scorpios are just from my experience.
Mm-hmm.
Intense.
Okay.
Like I know some...
And you know what?
I'll take that.
Terry's way more intense than me, though.
You guys don't strike me as like,
I thought Terry was like a cancer maybe.
Whoa.
I'm honestly just saying words.
And we'll all change this afternoon when you see something.
Oh.
Yeah.
You're about to see something that will really change your mind on him being cancer.
Okay.
He's so not,
which is so funny.
He's like the intense Scorpio.
I think I'm the more,
slightly more personable one.
But are you that like social?
Yeah, because I'm Gemini rising Gemini Moon.
Oh, okay.
I like socialize.
Gemini Moon?
Your Gemini Moon?
Capricorn Rising.
So that's why you're so regimented.
I think so.
If I don't work, I'm like, well, what's the point in living?
Well, I'm just kind of like, I'll get in trouble.
Right.
I think I'm always think I'm about to get in trouble.
I have a crazy fear of getting in trouble.
Yeah, it's like when people are like, can I talk to you for a sec?
I'm like, what?
Oh, my God.
All right.
When people have to be Jake, follow it up now.
Oh, if you don't have it ready to go in your notes app, don't even send it.
Like, what's wrong with you?
I hate getting in trouble.
I hate to go to the principal's office.
Yeah.
I'm so anxious about getting in trouble at all the time.
We did that to kids so much.
It was so like you're in trouble coded.
Right?
Like why?
That's my big statement of the day.
It's so you're in trouble coded.
Did you, okay, like, what was the craziest thing you went to the principal's office for?
Oh my God.
I drew devil horns on this guy who kept on a card that was going out to like, I think like a convent, honestly.
And I drew devil horns on him because he kept calling me circle because I could never be straight.
And I was just like, yeah, eat my dick, Daniel.
I just fucking, like, defaced you on this card.
And you went to the principal for that?
And I went to the principal for that.
Well, they were doing this thing of like, whoever does it,
we're not going to recess until you come forward.
Which was so fucked up.
And that it makes everyone hate it.
And I'm like, I volunteer as tribute.
Yeah.
I'm like, fine.
Fuck.
It was me.
Duh.
Yeah.
So that, that, what about you?
Um, I once called my math teacher girl.
Well, there it is.
And he said, I am not your girl.
And I said, okay.
not now maybe you are
you said not now but maybe you are
but the way you responded that's got me thinking
but I think there were some other things I went to the principal's office for that
I can only imagine us together in the principal's office
what like I
so we say what should we get into the Tommy What's Wrongs?
Yeah okay
Can I just say this really inspired me to go back in Sabrina's last album which I loved
But I just I guess I can't send
Jesus Christ yeah she's a four
Skinny dipping like imagine making that song
Skinny Dipping like imagine making that song
Skinny dip.
Don't even fucking get me started on skinny.
We've been.
It was a Wednesday.
And she's got bars at the top.
And I was like, why do people, oh my God.
Here he comes.
Oh.
Here she comes in a lot of ways.
Here she comes.
Dars she blows.
It would be a coffee shop.
Oat milk latte.
Can you believe you haven't seen my nipple this whole?
time. I don't think, have you guys seen my nipple? I guess my hair would be covered. No, I literally thought that while
you were talking once. I go, we're both wearing strapless. I don't know what girls are complaining about.
Right. Oh, my goodness. Oh, this is off that. Oh, we'll fix that. We'll fix that. Before the photo story.
Wait, hold on. Oh. Okay. We'll do a judge. I have to air. I have to air something out. Let's just say that.
Wait, so when did you start making your videos? I started making my videos when I was,
I had just graduated college, so it was, it would have been like 2016. That's when you started making.
Yeah, but I had started making tub smashes in college, and that was me like tiptoeing out of the closet.
And then I started like writing characters and sketches while I was working for like a startup editing their videos.
And I would spend all day just editing my, you petting your face.
I can't deal.
It feels really good.
No, I know.
I just think, oh, fuck.
Oh, my God.
But yeah, I, and I would make like two videos away.
I mean, I was just like pumping them out and it was so.
I felt like this.
To get burnt out though at one point?
Not really.
Not for a while because I think I was just so like.
Like, I just still can't believe I get to do any of this.
Right.
Like, I guess growing up in Idaho, I had no, there was like no North Star of like that this could
even be a thing that I could ever want, you know?
And so I think like, it was funny.
My sister was talking to me the other day and she, like, she said that she had started
crying because she's like, I knew that that's what you always wanted.
I just also had like no idea how you would ever be able to do that.
Like, and I just, yeah, I didn't know anyone who had done it.
There wasn't.
Was there a video that you were like, oh, things are changing?
and things are different.
I made a,
I did a,
Kim Kardashian Snapchat.
I remember that.
Yeah.
And that was like,
I remember seeing that and it was popping up on Facebook
in other places than where I had posted.
So that was the first,
I guess,
like semi-viral thing that I had done.
And then,
and at the time I was like,
oh,
I feel like there's a lot of Kardashians and media,
like people probably,
they won't want me to do this.
Right.
Or like their hands will be mad at me.
Or they'll be mad at me.
Or they'll be mad if they,
God forbid they ever see it.
And it was the complete opposite.
Like,
people were like so into it.
And I loved writing for it.
It was like writing for the character that I had made them.
Right.
And that's what I've always tried to do.
It's like if I'm going to be someone, I like there to be a game of the scene.
Like I think it's funnier to do like an internet persona of someone.
Right.
I'm not really interested in doing like their actual lives.
Right.
So I'm not going there.
I don't need to talk about that.
But, um, but yeah, like, you know, for example, I was like, oh, it would be funny to write
Sean Mendez as like the guy.
Oh, your sister brings home as he's so good.
You know, and like, I don't know.
It's like that guy.
but not that like I've ever met Sean or you know or right in that way but um your Sean is so
oh thank you I loved being him and he was like very sweet about it I'm sure he's just yeah he seems
like a very sweet man angel but um do you have a favorite video oh my god I love being deliverance
Richards that kind of like I was getting a little tired of doing it I felt like I had made so many
um and it was just a little bit of like the you know feeding the beast and I was like oh I need to
like enjoy it again and Terry and I went to my sister's house that she had just gotten and I was
like I have this real estate character.
I just want to do you.
And I was like, I want to make a sign.
I want to get a billboard because I feel like during the holidays, people are sad.
And if they drive by, like, maybe it's funny.
Yeah.
But so she kind of revived me, I feel like.
Your hair cutting one.
Oh my God.
Well, that's it.
Jenny.
You're kind of giving, this is her cut.
Those are her bangs.
Yeah, like that is like, that's Jenny.
That was like, that to me, I had just done all the horoscopes.
Uh-huh.
And I think that was probably the most, like, viral thing I had done.
Or like a queer eye parody or.
Right.
And then I made Jenny at the start of the pandemic.
And I feel like she, that made me so happy.
And then being mean to Terry's mom, I think are my favorite because I get to hang out with
Catherine.
Oh, God, they're so good.
They're so original.
They're like, they're like classics.
It's been a while, honestly.
This is like my first costume I put on in a bit.
Do you think you'll, now that you have like a TV show and you have all these things
going on, you have the podcast.
Like, do you think you'll continue to do more or like?
I think, I don't know if it would be more.
Yeah.
Like as far as never as much as I was doing.
Right.
That was like, oh, God.
How many would you pump out?
a week. Well, I used to do, I think once we got to like one a week, I was like, this is kind of
sustainable, but not even. And I'm also like, I just don't think this is how I would consume
comedy. This is so much. I was like, I wouldn't watch this, even if I was like, like, so obsessed
with someone. I would never want this many videos. So I absolutely think I would. I think it'd be so fun
to dip back into that. I love how quick it is. I think obviously the process of a TV show is so long,
and that can be a good thing,
but it is really nice to be like,
I have this idea on a Monday
and it's out on a Friday.
Right.
It's done.
And I, yeah, I mean, I'll never,
I'll never get rid of my girls.
Right, they're your girls.
But I would love, like,
I don't know, heightened version
of one of them for something.
Like, I love Deliverance Richards.
Deliverance Richards is.
She's Miss Girl.
She would love to play with you.
She would.
Trust.
Trust.
She would.
She's a therapist in a huge way.
She definitely, yeah.
She listens to it on her drive to work.
Of course.
That and Caroline Polich.
We made her at Carol.
I'm Polichick fan.
In one video, it made no sense.
But now Terry and I're like, well, that's lore.
That is lore.
And it makes sense.
Speaking of which, we have a special guest.
You've already had Charlie on your show.
That's crazy.
She's back so quick.
Oh, I think we have someone else.
Charlie.
Charles, Degal?
Uh-oh.
Look who's here.
Come take a seat.
Shocking.
This is my first time seeing this.
Well, Brat Summer, not even close to over.
we know that.
Hi, Charlie.
You look amazing.
So do you.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you.
Well, finally.
Yeah, no, it's fine.
It's supposed to be there.
Finally, the Power Puff girls are all together.
Yeah, the Power Puff Girls.
It feels really good.
It feels good.
It's like kind of of nightmares in a perfect way.
Right.
It's like your sleep paralysis demon.
Yeah.
Guess who?
When you sleep with your ex, this is what you come home to.
You see us.
Yeah.
We go, huh.
You have a good night?
Yeah.
We need to give you a cigarette if I'm having a special literally.
Someone get Charlie a cigarette, please.
And light it.
Fuck.
Whoa, okay, the makeup is like, shocking.
It's really good.
It's really good.
You really do look like her.
Thanks.
One thing, when I'm a woman is I don't speak.
Oh, okay.
I just sort of.
You look.
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you find, how's your conversation going?
Oh, we talked about.
I could talk to Jake forever.
Yeah.
Do you understand?
Totally.
Yeah.
We've had a good time.
I used to talk to you.
I'll just say that.
Your hair's deflated a little.
Oh, is it?
No, photos after this.
These photos are going to be specific, I would say.
You're very fresh.
We're going to have to do a little.
I have water in my mercy.
It's not even sweat anymore.
I'm sitting on my balls.
They are so far up my asshole.
I don't even know where my shaft is.
No, that's what's cool.
It's retracted.
That's how Sabrina starts her show.
I don't even know where my shaft is.
Fuck.
There's your drink.
All right. Cheers, girls.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Wait.
Someone get that photo of this.
Mm.
Mm.
Cheers.
Cheers.
I'm obsessed with these mics.
They're cute, right?
I'm so, I love it.
Mm.
Mm.
Red wine supernova.
Supernova.
She'll take it down to the bottom.
Can I have some more wine?
That's my girl.
Chaplin needs a little more.
Sorry, that's my girl.
Is that real wine?
Uh-huh.
How's she doing?
She's good.
She's good.
She's good.
She's good.
She's good.
I said if I finished that, I would just, like, throw up.
Is it an espresso martini?
Well, of course.
Perfect.
Well, that's that.
Yeah.
That's that me espresso.
Okay, so do you guys know about the tummy what's wrongs?
Of course.
I was hooking up with this guy, and when he started talking to me, he said, once we start
having consistent sex, you'll be the only person I hook up with.
Now he's being manipulative saying, all I want is sex.
Like, yeah, duh, that's the point in this.
Whoa, that was pros.
You know what?
I have to say.
It sounds like she's being.
manipulative. Right, but he said to her, like, once...
She's a total sex demon. Yeah.
Like, she's...
She's obsessed with sex.
She said, he said, once we start having consistent sex, like, you will be...
So she's like, all... Wait, I love...
Do you know what, this one time, I heard about this thing.
Oh my God, there's dog fights.
Jake has dog fights. That is out.
Very Michael Vick. Do you remember Michael Vick?
Before his time.
That was such a thing. Who's Michael Vick?
I don't know. It was like a football scandal.
So here's the thing.
Oh, I remember.
Remember.
Here's my thing.
I love.
I'm really respect.
I'm like, I'm corseted.
We have to finish this.
So here's my thing.
What I love about her is that I, there was a slogan I don't know where I heard it from,
but a straight guy said this once.
And I think about it all the time where it says a woman has two jobs.
I caught that.
Do you remember?
What did you say?
You thought about it all the time.
Dude, come on.
Brad Summer's alive and well.
It's brought up.
It's Braddum, it's brought him.
It's brought him, bitch.
To keep her husband's sack.
empty and his stomach full.
A straight man said this once.
Okay.
So I love that she's punishing that.
Yeah.
Like that's amazing.
Just like, I'll fuck you to death.
Until you date me is so amazing.
Like, watch me.
You want to call me your girlfriend?
You're gonna.
I'm gonna fuck you all day.
I'll suck the come out of you.
Yeah.
Sabrina Carpenter says good.
Go for her.
That's amazing.
Sabrina approved.
No, Sabrina's like, I say we prescribed Juno by Sabrina Garpenter.
Oh, totally.
When she says I'm so fucking horny,
people haven't said stuff like that.
in a while. No, they haven't. God, it feels good.
It feels good. But I love her, but I think love shouldn't be that hard.
Either, like, a good guy, like, wouldn't do all that.
Right? I just don't think it's ever meant to be that hard. He's giving manipulative.
Not her. She's like, well, I'm just doing what you asked. Yeah, I'm fucking...
When you start having consistent sex, you'll be the only person I have sex with. Okay, so consistent sex it is.
You said fuck you to death. Yeah. Here you go. Here you go.
Yeah. Please help. My friends from college and I are going on a bar crawl for Halloween.
Oh, I already don't do that. We've been sending our costumes in a group chat and getting
excited. However, one of my friends has a
boyfriend who has been making comments that our costumes are
too slutty and saying we can't post any
pictures with her dress like that because people
will think he and her broke up. It's making us feel
uncomfortable and I'm not sure what to do. He's done. Tell her
he sucks. Like, you don't control
my costume. Right? No.
You get to look as
Into the mic, Charlie. Oh, fuck. Sorry.
It's not auto tune. She won't do it.
Yeah.
Slutty or as tasteful as you want?
That's not fair.
This boyfriend feels like a fucking nightmare.
I completely agree.
It's like he's canceled.
You're pressed on something.
You need to figure that out.
I agree.
Be whatever the hell you want to be for Halloween.
The boyfriend's getting insecure.
Also, that is so not.
Oh, sorry.
It's not.
No, you're a small man.
I don't want to hear it.
You're small, small dick too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like he thinks she can get a better dick somewhere else and she probably can.
Yeah.
He's scared.
He's threatened.
Kings don't do that.
They'll let you wear whatever you want.
Yeah.
I have very protective parents.
Whoa, hate this.
And when me and my friends were at a Halloween party.
it got shut down by the cops who specifically asked for me.
Oh no.
The whole school found out my dad called them.
Just because he was worried and it was so embarrassing.
Now I'm scared to show my face at any party this year.
I would be too.
Fuck.
Drop out of school.
Move.
I would be so embarrassed.
But I would,
you have to go against your parents and be like,
fuck them.
I'm not telling them what I'm doing anymore.
No.
Be a rebel.
Be a rebel.
Wait, so the dad ratted her out.
Yeah.
Be a rebel heart.
That's a nightmare.
And like,
You'll be over it in college, but like it might stay in high school for a minute.
I agree.
Well, in college, but keep bringing it up.
As Scorpio's, I think it's important just to remember everything.
Also, as...
It's like, Dad, you did that to me.
I'm going to embarrass you later.
Also, as a comedian, like, the only way you can take back control of this whole narrative
is to be self-deprecating.
So, start making funny yourself and the situation.
Oh, my God.
Forishing them at school, like, I guess my dad will call again.
Yes, yes.
And they're like, wait, will he actually?
Literally.
Yeah, I bet he would.
I went to jail.
I went to jail, Carly.
I had parents that maybe would have done that.
Oh, 100%.
But I didn't have enough friends in high school.
Right.
Same.
To throw a party, like, couldn't have been me.
My parents were, like, super chill because I would be like...
Your parents are giving keys in a bowl, sorry.
What is keys in a bowl?
It's like, well, you grew up in New York, so no one was driving.
But it's like they would be fine if you drank.
You just have to put keys in a bowl.
You can't drive home.
Right.
My parents were not fine with me drinking, but they were fine with, like, me being gay and stuff.
That's nice.
The hot rods are out.
They know the girls.
They can smell us.
You guys ever seen Fast and the Furious?
Well, of course.
Neither of I.
I think my hair is falling.
It's deflating a little.
It's deflating a little bit, but we'll fix it before the photos, right?
I think we'll do a touchup.
Are you kidding?
Of course.
Okay.
We'll do a major touch up.
Yeah.
Like, I'll be totally real with you.
I have to wipe my ass and then we can take photos.
I was looking for.
Sorry, Jake.
I was looking.
Sabrina's crass.
I never said she wasn't.
No, she is.
And that's what makes her her.
I was looking for deodorant in my boyfriend's car while he was getting gas.
I found a used bloody condom in the back seat.
I immediately got condom.
That's brat.
Right?
That's kind of rat.
Everything is romantic.
Everything is romantic when you think about it.
So I actually have a fear of bloody condoms because in sex ed class in ninth grade,
our sex ed teacher told us he once came in a condom and it was too close to the tip of his penis that he shot out blood.
Thank God.
So I've been scared of bloody.
Are you sure?
Absolutely positive.
He said one time I had sex and I said, hold on.
Ed teacher. Well, he was a senior. And I said, now hold on.
Hold on. No, hold on. He's like, one time I was having. Was this a friend? No, he was, he was
our peer leader. And he was giving us sex and they were like, you're gonna, and he was like,
or he was giving us sex ed. So he was giving us sex. It sounds like he's crossing a few boundaries.
And he said that he came and the condom was too close to the tip, so he shot out blood. And so this is
what this is reminding me of. I've never. So to me, I'm hearing like maybe at sex with someone who was on
their period. Is that what? I have.
Like cheating?
You heard shot blood out
In the boyfriend's car.
So is there a cheating allegation?
She said I immediately confronted him about it
And he pretended he had no idea how it got there
And even went as far as to pretend
He didn't know what it was
And lied for a solid five to ten minutes
Until he actually fessed up about cheating on me.
So just dump him.
God, but I would have loved to have watched him lie about that.
Right?
What is that?
What could that have been done to?
A bloody condom.
God, that's like, yeah.
I mean, yeah, just,
was their advice they wanted?
Like, yeah, dump him.
Don't stay with him.
Sometimes the advice is just as simple.
Yeah, they sort of like solved their own problem.
They just wanted you to know, which I love.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Totally.
Chapel's like, right.
Yeah.
Oh, this is a good question.
Yeah.
I have been dating my boyfriend for five years.
And for the past few months,
I literally have not been able to stop thinking about a boy hooked,
a boy I hooked up with once when we were on a break.
I literally have dreams about us.
can't stop picturing us together.
But I'm also in love with my boyfriend.
IDK if this is a situation where I want what I can't have or what, but it's eating me alive.
There is something to say, which is when I, when Ben first came on my radar, I was with someone
else.
Okay.
Whoa, we're going to talk about this.
Charlie?
Yeah.
Charlie, we're really going to talk about this?
When I saw him, though, I was like, and then I was like, I have to wrap this situation up
and immediately make myself available.
Right.
And sorry, it's been eight years.
So, that's that me is Spryso, girl.
That's maybe my prescription.
Yeah, it's wrapping it up.
Wrap it up, girl.
Wrap it up.
Not too tired, you'll shoot up blood.
Yeah, oh, God.
New Fear Unlocked.
Wait, you know what?
Also, with my OCD, paper cuts make me sick.
I hate paper cuts.
They're so vile.
I just think that's so fucking disgusting.
Yeah, it's like a slight fucking shit.
Yeah, it's like, oh, and then it's like it cuts and it won't stop bleeding.
Why won't it stop bleeding?
It's so gross.
Okay, so they're thinking about their crush a lot.
I think maybe it's time.
I think I solved that.
Yeah, you did solve that.
Charlie, she took it away.
I agree.
If you're thinking about him too much,
go take care of business.
Okay, this is Halloween special, spooky.
I was promised to not be ghosted if I fucked him.
He ghosted me.
He promised you he wouldn't ghost you if you fucked him?
Now I see him every day on campus and we avoid eye contact.
How do I get my confidence back?
Scary.
Don't fuck someone if they promise not to ghost you if you fuck them.
Wait, also the first one sounds like they're writing like a book of essays,
which I think we're good on, by the way.
Which, which first one?
The first line of that sounds like the beginning of a-
I would promise to not be ghosted if I fucked him.
That's like, is not the beginning of a book?
Yeah.
Which one of these is like a more and more complex riddle.
And I'm like, I know, I know.
I'm not.
I know.
I know.
I know.
Trolls sent you this.
These are all riddles to get over the bridge.
I'm like.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
Something between the face tape and the way.
Yeah, I wouldn't fuck someone who ever brings up ghosting.
It's like, right?
It's like, wait, why are you thinking about that already?
No, it's like Republicans bringing up grooming.
It's like you brought that up.
Right, like you brought that up.
The fuck wasn't thinking about it.
Must be top of mind.
Sorry.
Top of mind.
It's what you do.
It's what I do.
It's what I do.
It's what I do.
I mean, that's JD fans.
In this moment, in this moment, I am your sister.
It's what I do.
Yeah.
Well, what did we learn today?
God, so much.
You can take down Red Wine Supernova.
I know.
It's so major.
You can't imagine how my girl can just fucking do it.
And I'm like, I'm nursing this.
Probably.
Yeah, I'm about to be three glasses in.
I'll fall asleep soon.
Look at these things. They're gorgeous.
In the photos.
I love it.
I learned that everyone kind of has similar experiences and there's not an original experience ever to be had.
Not one singular experience.
Every day.
Yeah.
Wait, you guys.
saw the craziest TikTok, and it was like you, happiness, if you base your happiness in,
it's really stuck with me, I don't know why, in events, you'll never be happy.
And that's all I do.
Oh, of course.
I'm like, once this event happens, I'll be happy.
And then the next, it happens.
I'm like, wait, hello, I don't care.
And then the next thing will happen.
I'll be like, wait, no, no, no, it's the next one.
And then I'll have anxiety and OCD leading up to said event.
I know, me too.
So that's why I can never be happy.
Because I'm like, God, I mean, intrusive thoughts at this fucking dinner.
That's what I always have.
I'm like, God, damn it.
It's what we do.
Yeah, it's what day are you?
October 27th.
We're November Scorpio.
He has like a whole to do about it.
It's crazy.
November Scorpios are crazy.
Yeah.
He thinks we're really intense.
We are.
We are.
We are.
We stare at you.
I have blue contacts and I'm like, we're not intense.
We're just passionate.
Yeah.
What did you learn today in your short time that you were here?
Um, I actually don't know.
I learned that I feel like I have imposter syndrome.
Mm-hmm.
For sitting here.
Because I really thought I was a drive-by.
No.
You were the main event.
You're not a drive-by, darling.
Thank you so much.
See?
Oh, see?
Oh, let's do it.
Cheers.
I would love to do that.
Cheers.
Wait, you know what I learned?
I love you guys.
You're freaking all.
Oh, love.
Sorry, love.
And it's so fun.
And gay friendship is back.
Gay friendship is back and so special.
I feel like I scammed my way onto here.
No, you didn't.
I'm a fan first.
I scammed my way into a Halloween special.
People are like, hey, do you want to be in my podcast?
I'm like, yeah, are you having a Halloween special?
In drag.
Yeah, I'll be there in a month, I guess.
Yeah, in drag.
I was like, oh, okay.
Yeah, I loved you.
You're like, no, totally, it's perfect.
Yeah.
And I was like, here's what I'm thinking.
And, yeah.
It happened.
I mean, this was a dream.
This is a dream come true.
I could talk to you forever.
Forever.
I could stare at you in this outfit forever.
I also don't think that the three of us should ever go to dinner with another person there.
They'd be so confused.
They would be confused.
Are we going to McDonald's after this?
We do.
We have to do that.
We have to do a drive-thru.
Okay.
And we have like five TikTok.
I know.
We have so much work to do.
I have to take a Polaroid where I go.
Yes, yes.
You know what I mean?
It's like so much to do.
Well, I love you.
Happy Halloween.
Happy Halloween.
Happy Halloween Pussies.
Thank you guys for coming on.
Benny and Terry.
I love you both so much.
Do you want to say a little goodbye to the Pussies on a happy Halloween?
Bye Pussies.
We're giving Pussy.
Bye Pussies.
Happy Halloween Pussies.
We love you.
Celebrate hard.
Love you, Jake.
Go like, wait, be good to Jake on tour.
Don't be like freaks.
Did he already say his favorite?
Do you know what I mean, though?
Influencer's favorite.
What do you mean?
I just hope no one's crazy to you.
Don't be crazy.
Okay.
Nothing crazy.
Yeah.
It's like you can be crazy, but like take care of my guy.
Take care.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Don't storm the stage.
The stage isn't yours.
The stage isn't yours.
It's my babies.
He earned it.
Oh, they do sometimes do that.
Really?
Have they done that at the sweat tour yet?
Um.
Oh, soon come.
Soon come.
They're fairly respectful on the sweat tour.
Yeah, but you never know.
Maybe security's good too.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Love you, Pussies.
Happy Halloween.
I keep an eye out for season two.
Red wine supernova.
Tense up, put your tense up, tense up, tense up.
