Therapuss with Jake Shane - Session 03: Tate McRae

Episode Date: January 19, 2024

Pop sensation Tate McRae joins Jake in the Therapuss office this week for a session full of honesty, roommate troubles, plot twists, and more! Tell Me What's Wrong at passthatpuss.com Follow Me! Instagram | @passthatpuss TikTok | @octopusslover8 Follow Tate! @tatemcrae Listen to "THERAPUSS" Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/1BHDdC0OVuHqZ706FobfOF⁠ Apple Podcasts: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/therapuss-with-jake-shane/id1723626781⁠ Amazon Podcasts: ⁠https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/93117357-1f23-46e1-8f26-88f5182a68b8/therapuss-with-jake-shane⁠ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@octopusslover8 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hi Pussies and welcome back to Therapus. This is the first episode I'm filming post-launch and I just like really didn't expect people to love it like they did. Like I'm so, so thankful for every single pussy who listened or every single new pussy that listened. Welcome to Puss University. Welcome to Therapus. I hope you find a prescription that suits your needs. And always as a reminder, go to Pass That Puss.com and click tell me what's wrong to tell me what's wrong. and maybe I'll answer it during the show.

We hit number three on the top Spotify comedy podcast in the country and number eight on podcast overall, which was like actually the craziest thing in the entire world because I really didn't even think it was going to be on any chart at all. So when I found out, I like made it my whole personality, obviously, as you guys, whoever follows me on Instagram can probably tell. But it really was like it was such a good feeling to know that something I worked really hard on was like well received so I'm just really really grateful for you guys and I love you guys just a reminder you guys um if you're gonna ask me for advice please do it on my Instagram or the website

because I had a little situation this week on hinge where someone slid into my hinge messages asking for advice on another man let me just let me read you let me let me read you the message I got jake dot dot dot I need advice and I just realized this would be such a great therapist topic was talking to this closeted stud for months. We had unreal chemistry, went on two incredible dates, and had sex. It got too much for me, so I cut it off because I knew I'd be emotionally fucked up to keep going down a path that couldn't lead anywhere because he wasn't anywhere close to accepting himself. Fast forward, a few months of no contact. I'm going to a new gym, and he, lo and behold, is there at the same time every morning.

He tried to strike up convos, and I've been shooting them down. I secretly find the pursuit of me so attractive. And as of the past week, I've wanted to talk to him, but now every time he ignores me, like he pities me. Did I fuck up my chances here if I wanted to dive back in? Need advice. So like, normally I would be like, oh, okay, like, let me give you advice.

But when I'm being messaged on a dating app about advice for your sex with another man, it's not what I want to hear. However, I did respond and I did give him advice. I said, I'm so happy you had great chemistry and great sex. Not sure if you fucked up your chances, but the only way to find out would to be up front about it. Then I said, so was that you asking me out on a date or did you just want to ask for advice? And I don't want to read the rest.

But yeah, if you want to submit anything for Tell Me What's Wrong, go to pass that puss.com and go to the Tell Me What's Wrong button and tell me what's wrong. Just please don't do it on Hinge because it makes me want to kill myself. Today we have a very, very, very, very special guest. She goes by the name of Tate McCrae. She's one of my best best friends, my best workout buddy, and one of the people in this world that I go to for a lot of advice. Her most recent album, Think Later, I'm sure you've all heard it. If you haven't, go listen.

Debuted at number four on the Billboard Top 200 with the Global Top 200 hit single, Greedy, and X's being a part of it. She has over 7.8 billion total streams in her career. She's a dancer, a singer, an icon, and a legend. Please welcome one of my very, very best friends, Tate McCray. Okay, you guys, she is here. I finally got her. Tate McCray.

Hello. And by the way, may I just say that this is Tate's very first podcast she's ever done, and it's with me, so I feel incredibly honored. Well, I'm very honored to be on your show, Jake. Oh, my God. I'm literally so excited. Why am I nervous? Why am I nervous?

As if we didn't spend every single day together this one. We, should we talk about how we met? Okay, yeah. We met at a friend's house. Yes. We met at a friend's house, a mutual friend's house. And then we were going to like the same thing the following week. And I was, it was like a shot in the dark and I was like, are you going to this by chance?

And you were like, yes, I am. And then we got dinner and went. And then she was like, do you want to work out tomorrow? And now we work out together every day. And now we work out buddies and we work out all the time. She's the only reason I'm in shape. I say that. I can't work out on my own.

But it's also like the source of our happiness. It is. We feel so good after. Like that's what makes us like survive the week. The sauna. We're seeing that. The sauna. We also work out with just like the craziest people.

The crazy. The crazy. This is like this social part of our, of our years. Allo. I keep saying that like this place, this gym, Allo, the place we work out at is like so LA because it's like we always see all these like crazy celebrity people there. And like it's the same thing as if we would see them. in like a New York club.

Right. So it's like the clubbing for New York, but in L.A. Yeah. A workout gym. But we always look terrifying. Everyone looks like, hi!

I don't think I've ever looked once good. I've never looked good. I've never looked good. I show up my hair is like this. We also, me and Jake, wake up 10 minutes before. Yeah. 10 minutes before. And I call her, I go, Tate,

take up, wake up. Are you coming? Are you coming? Because I won't go. She's not going. Right. And I've also, like, slept through quite a few sessions. Once.

That was once. Twice. And she had every reason to she was on tour. I was on tour. Like, I was surprised you were making it, actually. That was impressive. Well, Tate, welcome to therapist. Thank you.

I'm so excited. I'm so excited. How are you feeling today? I'm feeling great. It's been a great week. We, God, got the best workouts of our life this week. And now it's Saturday. Now it's Saturday.

Yeah. And we had a great dinner last night. Yes. We had some peas and a bee, pigs and blanket. Yep. And, yeah, I think working out this week every day was really good for us. I think so, too. Because normally we like, we skip one.

And we did every single day. We did everyone. And by the end, we were like... I think that was our first full week. That was our first full week. Go us. In the almost year we've been doing this. Yeah, wow.

I'm impressed. I'm impressed, too. Go us. We met at Allo. And then we honestly just kept hanging out. And then you would come out to New York all the time. I came out to New York, fun fact. I came out for work and her show.

And then I canceled all. Every work thing I had and just went to her. show and it was so fun it was a successful trip it was like so fun and I got back and I was like how was your work trip and I was like I don't think I worked at all I don't think I did anything at all but Jake also got like mobbed at my show

it was because I feel like Jake's also like the most recognizable person ever it's because I'm short and like stout no but he he'll have people like driving like down the street and just be like all the time and and then my show was just like nonstop crazy like he was he had to what was it like a security

I'd pick you up. The security guard was yelling at me because he thought I was creating a riot. So he was like, what are you doing? And I was like, I don't. Because I was walking out. I was walking out with everyone. And everyone was like, like we were all like back net,

like body to body in line. And then one girl turned and was like, what did he be at that? And it was like, and then security had to rip me by my shirt out. And I was like, yeah. I'm coming to every team of Christo for the rest of my life.

Yeah, I was like, so sorry for me. motion. Come on. It was like, it's fine. That was amazing. Oh, that was good. Wow.

Oh, okay, well, should we get into the tummy what's wrongs? Let's do it. Oh, but before that. Uh-oh. Your session starts now. This is so cute. I know. Oh, my God, cute.

It's never been this cute before, by the way. Jake cleaned his house. It smells so good in here. He walked in and she was like, wait, what? I had a cleaner. come this morning. A trash guy come yesterday. I let every candle in the house.

I got air one, one snacks. I was like, no, no, no. I'm showing up and showing out. Yeah. Because one thing about Tate is she's busy. No, you're so busy. Never for you. Never too busy for you.

God love her. But she is a very busy girl. She's one of the hardest workers I know. And I'm dead serious. Thank you, Jake. Okay, you ready? Yeah. Tell me, what's wrong?

Tell me. My ex is dating a girl that looks exactly like me and her name is one letter different than mine. That's really awkward. That's so awkward. I don't even know what advice to give you. That's just weird. I would like to know if she broke up with him, because if she broke up with him, that would make more sense. But if he broke up with her, that's bizarre.

I wonder if it's, like, coincident. I feel like that's, like, really strange. That's really strange. He obviously misses you. So much. He obviously, like, really needs you back in his life. He's Tab thinking about, oh, Tab just, that was an incorrect name, and I'm embarrassed. Thinking about.

Thinking about what? Babes. He's Tay, thinking about you. Thinking about bitches. He's thinking about you so much so that his new girlfriend has the same name and looks like you. That is really crazy.

I would be super disturbed by that. I would be super disturbed. I'd be happy that he's your ex, though, because that's weird. Yeah. Why do I feel like then he's just dating anyone that fits his type? He's obsessed.

He's obsessed with you. That's what I would think. I'd be like, oh, they're obsessed. No, yeah, it's giving obsessed. Yeah. It's giving stalker. It's giving stalker. I would actually prescribe to you

the song Obsessed, by Mariah Carey. Because I think it'll make you feel like a bad bitch. Yeah. And you'll be like, yeah, why are you so obsessed with me? Right. I agree. I'm on the same.

I prescribe the same thing. You prescribed the same thing. Okay. Great answer. A double dose. We're double down. We're doubling down. We're doubling down.

We're doubling down on obsessed by. And Mariah Carey. Was that good advice? Yeah, we were like, that's weird. Oh, I love that I have Tate here because you'll give great advice on this one. Okay. Tips on how to find the right guy. See, like, I can't.

answer this. I always seem to find the assholes who don't want a relationship and only want to hook up. I'm 23 and haven't had a serious boyfriend yet. And it makes me so insecure. Right. The floor is yours. I don't know if I have like the best I either. Really?

No, I think it's so hard because you just never know. Like you can be fooled by like a not great guy and think that they're a nice guy. Yeah, so you kind of just have to take your chances. Honestly, you kind of just got to like always I think number one is be friends with them first. That's like the big hook. The therapist said the same thing to me the other week.

Because I am a therapist. You are. No, I think that's like if you jump too fast into dating and it becomes like relationship right off the bat and you like totally forget to like acknowledge the fact that like you have to like have any sort of like relationship. Right. Yeah. I think is doomed from the beginning. Agreed. Like yeah, I feel like you just like you can't ever tell until like time will always tell.

Oh, I. Yeah. So true, because I was talking to my therapist the other day, and I was like, why can't I find a guy, all these guys I talk to, like, because my mind is like, okay, if they don't want to immediately hook up or they're not immediately into me,

then like I can't even speak to them. But that's why I feel like the friend approach is so good because you're going in as friends, and if you don't get along as friends, why would you date at all? Well, remember, okay, wait, remember the other day where you were like, when you were saying, like, oh, as soon as he, like, defined

that we were like friends. Yes, my new gay friend. I was, yes, yes. You were like, it was way more comfortable and like, whatever. You can develop feelings after your friends. I just, all my friends are girls, just because I've always felt like awkward around guys. Like, because I'm always like, is it romantic? Is it not?

Is it whatever? But then I had this new gay friend the other week be like, just like kind of set it like in a really chill way. It was like, oh, I can't wait for us to have boyfriends. And it was like, oh, okay, we're friends. Yeah. So I prescribe. I'm so bad at prescribing things. No, same, same.

It's why we're therapists and not psychiatrists. I'm the worst brain still remember. What if we prescribe Friends of the Benefits, the movie? Is that a good movie to do? Probably not, but you know what? We're going to prescribe it, and if it doesn't work out for you, stop taking a prescription. Okay, I love that.

Yeah, you know, because sometimes your psychiatrist is prescribing you stuff that's... Okay, I'm super emotionally unavailable, but for no reason for me. Prescribe me, please, I can't live like. this anymore. I feel you, girl. I don't know what the fuck to, but it's, like, super, I think the emotional unavailability comes from confidence.

I'm serious. Like, I'm, when I'm feeling, like, my least confident, I'm the most emotionally unavailable. Right. I feel like I'm, like, really emotionally unavailable when you, like, don't want to, like, when you, like, try to, like, avoid getting hurt. Like, I feel like, you, like, close yourself off and become, like, a cold bitch sometimes. Yeah.

And that's, like, default. I think I relate to that in different ways because, like, you have had relationships before, so you're relating to it in that way, but I'm like, I don't want to get rejected. Yeah. That's how I'm, so I think. Right, right, right.

Same kind of thing. Yeah. So I think that, God, I don't know what to prescribe for you. Maybe I'll hug. A hug, a hug, girl. Yeah, what do you need? I feel like you need, like...

A hug and some friend time. Spent some time with your friends. Yeah, you need, like, deep talks with your friends. You need to, like, get to the root of the problem. Deep talks. Tate is the queen of deep talks. I am the queen of deep talks. You're the queen of deep talks.

Anytime I'm a queen of deep talks. go out, I'm always... Anytime we go out, I'm like, where's Tate? I'm stuck in a deep talk. I'm in a deep talk to someone. And I'm like, Kate, what are you doing? She's like, I just had the longest conversation with so and so. And I'm like, every person.

Every time we go out. Always, every single time I'm always stuck in a deep talk with someone for hours. Yeah, I think it's one of your best qualities. Is my deep talks? Yeah, it just means you want to get to know whoever you're talking to. But I also like... Meanwhile, I'm like, hi! And then I forget everything.

I forget everything. I forget everything. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what we talked. She's like, but we talked to him like for how long? And she's like, three hours. And I'm like, and what you talk about?

And she's like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. How do I tell my roommate that his girlfriend legit sucks the life out of every room she walks in two? You tell him. Yeah. Be straight up. You tell him.

I would tell him. Yeah, that sucks. I would absolutely tell him. I'm so honest. You have to be super straight up about that stuff. Yeah. That's so annoying to be around someone who sucks your energy. Especially when like your friend is like into them.

And you're also like spending so much time. so much time around them. Like, you have to be straight up. Like, she needs to fix something. My friend had a boyfriend in college who was just not it. And that's the worst. It wrecks the vibe of everything. And, like, and she knew that.

And then your best friend has no idea. And they're like, what's wrong? And they're like, they're annoying. And then once they know, it's like awkward. And then it's just, it's a, it's a really shitty situation. Yeah. But depending how close you are with your roommate, because you're saying your roommate, not like your best friend.

Yeah. So what I'm thinking is like, if it's just your room. You don't think they're best friends? I don't know. I would be like my best friend slash roommate. Okay, I think so too. Right, wouldn't you? If you were writing this, they'll.

Right? If it's your best friend slash roommate, definitely say something because your best friend deserves to know how you feel about their significant another. If it's just your roommate, I'm sorry, but like you kind of just have to suck it up. You do have to suck it out. It's your roommate. It sucks and you'll move out, but that's it. Right. You'll figure it out.

I'm getting the worst advice. Fuck. Oh, what do we prescribe? Okay. We prescribe, you know, I prescribed to this before. And I'm going to prescribe it again. Okay. The movie called The Roommate, where the girl kills her roommate, things could be worse.

Things could be worse. Things could be so much worse. Be grateful. Be grateful. You're not murdering your roommate. You're working out with Glenn Powell and I'm not. Okay, guys, this is crazy. Wait, this was so funny.

This was trending on Twitter for a day. It was trending on Twitter and everyone kept saying, who the fuck is in the middle with the shaky leg? Who the fuck is that? The muscle spasms are crazy. No, they're crazy and everyone was like, he's faking it. A test. No, he's not. I'm not faking it.

They're real. Because even when we're not on camera, they're still. They're still bad. I was honestly, like, I was down to make Glenn giggle a bit. You know, I was like, ooh, like, it was like shaking. Then it wouldn't stop and I actually got embarrassed. And I was like, okay, like, this is like kind of weird. Like, it was weird. Also, our blogging was going so hard on us.

Hard on us. Because we have like Glenn, who's like this big, muscular guy and he's like not breaking a sweat and I'm like oh oh like it was also like one of our first days back it was one of our first days back but yeah that was fun that was so fun like like like we said we just like work out with random people and it just happens it really at that place it really does just happen we just got extremely lucky and I was extremely as-s-starstruck it was funny it was funny it was really fun yeah I met a man and instantly hit it off with him we very quickly fell in love jealous.

Yeah, I'm like, Tate, do you write this in? We were long distance, but we traveled every other week to see each other. He, wait, I'm sorry, I lost myself in this. Also you. I have to read this again for myself. Did I submit this? Yeah, did you? Oh my God, it's one of three.

Hold on. Okay, this is a reader. Okay. So I need to, like, actually pay attention. Okay. Okay. I met a man and instantly hit it off with him. We very quickly fell in love.

Yeah. We were long distance, but we were. but we traveled every other week to see each other. Yeah. He made me realize I had never been in love with any of my previous boyfriends. Aw. Wow. Cute.

I've never been so happy with another human before. That was it. No, there's more. Don't tell me there's more. Well, it turns out he's married. I obviously didn't know, but started to be suspicious after things, after never visiting his house. Now he's telling me he's getting divorced and wants to be with me,

and we will wait however long for me to be ready to try things with him again. Excuse me? I know I'm being the dumbest hoe For even considering that But I am kind of considering it I genuinely don't think I'll meet a better match for me But he also just lied to me for a year So what the fuck?

Please tell me I'm being stupid. Girl, run! Run! Run! For the hills. What? For the hills. No, seriously run.

What? Run. Okay, first off, that started really nice. Which makes me think he's a psychopath. Oh, 100%. If he's that nice and you're that in love, he's love bombing you for sure. And also, I always think a relationship

that you're gonna get into. Yeah. If you're getting into a relationship on the basis of fucking over another girl. Oh my God, it's doomed. It's doomed. You know what I mean? I'm so sorry, but you have to, like, run.

Because he will, what makes him not do that to you? 100%. You know what I mean? Like, they're not gonna change. They're not gonna change. Especially a married man. And if he thinks, if guys think they can get away with something,

they will do it again and again and again. and again and again, that's why guys are serial cheaters. Well, and how good of a liar is he? Like, a sick one at that for a year. Like, imagine what else he's not telling you. Yeah, there's a lot he's not telling you. Like, that is fucking crazy. You should absolutely not stay with him.

Your self-worth should be way higher than that. Yeah, and that's unfortunate because it is shitty to fall in love like that. Yeah. I'm like, I feel for you. But he sounds like a love bomber. He does sound like a love bomber and he sounds like a psychopath. A psychopath. Because if he can make you fall in love,

the scariest part is that he made you fall in love with a person. that didn't exist. Yeah. And that's weird. No, that's like a full facade he's putting on. Yeah, fucking run, run. And you know what I'm going to prescribe for you? Can you guess?

What? The song by Tate McCray Run for the Hills. Run for the Hills. That is the song I'm going to prescribe to you. Wait, but the song's kind of like, I love it, but I should run. Oh, right. It's perfect. It's perfect.

It's perfect. So yeah, listen to Run for the Hills by none other than. Oh my God, girl. I'm so sorry. That's so unfortunate. That is so fucking unfortunate. Yeah, I would want to die. Fuck.

That sucks. You need to just like, I'm sorry, I'm not over it. Reading that was crazy. You need to run over. The three parts was crazy. The three parts was unreal. It was the middle beginning and end. Yeah.

You need to run away and heal. Yeah. Like, you have some healing to do and, like, he's not going to make you heal faster. You also got to, like, really make sure you, like, looking for the red flags next time. How did you know? How did you miss that? Did you miss that? Also, but.

I mean, yeah. Sometimes, guys are psychopaths. Sometimes you miss it. That is fucking crazy. Hate men. Men are just not. it these days, you guys. No, that is crazy.

Is this a real submission I got? Okay, wait, do it. The guy I'm talking to has an Android, dot, dot, dot, and does improv. So he's me. Right. He's, he's me. So, are you talking about me? So every text you send is green.

Every text you send greed. I would cry. I would cry. That is rough. I would cry. I'm going to give it to you. That is rough. I prescribe an iPhone.

Yeah. I prescribe an iPhone. I saw all three of my. axes at the same bar. Wow. That's crazy. That's gnarly, but like, good for you that you have three of them. Yeah.

Good for her. Good for you. I'm thinking your life is going pretty swell. Sounds great. Honestly, like, for the plot, like, that sounds. Question for you. Who did you look at first? Oh, good question.

Who did you look at first? Yeah. Follow it up with co-word three of my exes at the bar. Yeah. And tell me who you looked at first because I am very curious. Marinate on that. Oh What's the question?

There's no question. Just like she saw three of axes. Okay. Then now we have a question. Okay. Sorry, there's no prescription for that besides. Kisses to my ex.

Exes by Tate McCrath. Took me a solid. Ooh. That's good. Okay. For a week straight before Axis came out, I'd be like, fuck. Tate, it is what it is.

And she'd look at me and look. And it was what. what I was. And we would do it for a week straight. And it was what it was. She'd like, I hate you. It was what it was. I matched with this guy on Hinge, and three days later, he sent me a video of him singing

a song he wrote for me. Oh, what the fuck? No. I ghosted him and blocked him on everything. As you should. Ruthless. As you should. Blocked him on everything.

But he keeps DMing my roommates and close friends asking about me. Oh, run. He's done. That is fucking crazy. A, when someone, coming from a singer. Yeah, coming from a singer. I'd like, you have the floor with this one. I'm like, even though I like write songs about everyone,

I'm like, that isn't huge ick. But they met, they matched on hint. That's crazy. That's crazy. He's obsessed. That is weird. Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm all, I am all for writing art about your life,

but when you're sending it to the subject after not even knowing them, like that's weird. And you're messaging like the roommates, like, it's like giving a wrong guy. It's giving, I prescribe you the Netflix show. You killed that. Thank you. Who said you're not a psychiatrist?

That's my first prescription. Yeah, you killed that. Yay! Okay, we prescribed... Stalker. Yeah, stalker. We prescribe you on Netflix. Yeah.

Or tape prescribes you because that was her prescription. I don't want to live with my roommate anymore, but I don't know how to tell her. Oh. That is, and I'm going to give it to her, one of the worst situations you could find yourself in. I wouldn't know. I've never had a roommate. Ever? No.

Ever? Ever. Damn, good for you. No, that is like so awesome. That means you can just like be on your own. Right. But I also just like would not know how to like communicate with roommates. Yeah, I got that.

Like I don't know how you take the floor because I've never had a roommate. I have never had to be like I don't want to live with you anymore because I love my roommates and I'm very lucky. But I've seen situations where people have had to tell their roommates like I don't want to live with you. And I've seen the ways that it can go down. Does it wreck the friendship? Do you do not remember what? We were talking about last night? Yeah.

We were literally talking about this last night. Yeah. Okay. Didn't talk to his roommate for a year because our friend was living with someone. Do you think he'll care if we tell the story? No. Yeah, it's fine. Okay.

Our friend was living with someone and the way that his roommate kicked him out and I hope you don't do this to your roommate was just texted him like, so what are your living plans for next year? Which is so fucked up. Which is so fucked up. Yeah. And then he had to live alone. And he had to live alone. And it's just like, you don't want to put another person in a situation like that because it's really bad karma.

It is. It's also just like, that would be like the worst news. Like the worst text to see you ever. My heart breaks for whoever's going to hear that. I'd be pissed. I would literally never talk to whatever. Ever. And that's what you kind of have to come to terms with.

Yeah. You have to be like, okay, like, do you care about this friendship enough to, like, do you not care about it enough to be like, okay, like, it's fine if we don't speak? Yeah. If you guys aren't close, go for it. Right. It's your space, whatever. But if you're close, I would try to work out the kinks and be honest. Or you'd be like, honestly, but I get wanting to move out.

I know. I think I would sit them down because. And be like, we have different living styles. Yes. Yeah. And also, it's so important to know that big kid decisions come with like big responsibilities to. And so if you're making the decision, like we're not in like high school and middle

school anymore. If you're making the decision to move out with your friend, you have to be a big kid enough to sit down with them and look at them in the face. 100%. Because I feel like our generation's really used to hiding behind a text or a phone call. Yeah, never text or call. Never text or call. That's the worst. And also like...

Because that happened to our friends. How they receive it is going to be like such a miscommunication. Right. It's just never going to be... Imagine getting a text. I don't want to live with you anymore. Like I would sit them down and be like, this is really hard for me to say. Yeah.

And I've been really anxious about it. This is how I am feeling. Yeah. But I don't know if we work well living together. Yeah. And see what they have to say. And if they respond poorly and they're mean about it. it then maybe yeah maybe you're right but if they're like maybe they'll respond with we'll tell me

what i can work on and have reasons and have reasons have like actual reasons why it's not working yeah so i would prescribe a sit down like an in-person sit down like everything needs to be handled in person and also what i really suggest they don't do is go behind this roommate's back and like if they're in the same friend group and talk to all the friends do it before it gets sour yeah you don't want to like handle this between you this is between you and your roommate this isn't between anyone else yeah don't let it get dirty or not let it get dirty so i'm prescribing an in-person talk with your roommate. Yeah.

Because we've seen how it can turn out when that doesn't happen and it's fucked. Not cute. It's not cute and it doesn't age well. No. Another roommate's one. Wow. My roommates are codependent on each other.

I've been third wheeling for six months now. Help. So I think they mean like friendship third wheeling. That sucks. That sucks. But you know what? Like Taylor Swift says, I spoke about this with Brett and Kennedy before.

In the now that we don't talk, she says, the more I gave, the more they'd want me less. So if you're feeling, left out. Preachs, Jake. If you're feeling left out, the more you push it,

the more they're going to push you away. You just, I know as much as this sucks, I prescribe a new plan with a new friend. A hundred percent. Go and live your life on your own. Yeah. Because it's their problem that they're excluding you. Right.

And if they see that you're like, why am, like, if you seem desperate to them, people are mean. Yeah. People are just mean. Yeah. And if they see that you're like not hanging out with anyone when they're like so buddy, buddy.

They're just going to be annoyed. They're just going to be annoyed. They're just going to be like, what? And like, they're going to be mean about it. So I would just honestly make a new plan. New plan with a new friend. Yeah. I have a huge crush on my guy best friend and have for the longest time.

And we are going to college in the fall, but I'm so scared to tell him how I feel. I mean, I would tell you to tell him, but I probably wouldn't. You wouldn't? Yeah, because what's the point? I know. Like. What, you're going to start a long distance relationship right before you go to college? A hundred percent.

And like, what if he says no? Then, like, you know what? I think it's something that, like, I think it's something that, like, I think. think it's a blessing that they're about to go to college. Yeah. Because maybe they'll come back and they'll think of them differently and then their friend and then they won't have fucked up their friendship because. Yeah.

You know? And also going to college, like, they're going to want to like explore and experiment. Experiment and go in relationships. There's going to be new people all around. Like, I feel like that's just never a good time to start a relationship. I wouldn't risk the friendship. No. I don't think so she's saying they're best friends.

Yeah. And if you find a good guy friend, like, don't lose that. Yeah. Because like, thank God you have one. Yeah. But like, I wouldn't risk the friendship. I would do, because you're about, you're about to go to college in the fall.

What do you, wait, question. Like, does she think that he likes him? Like, what's the situation. See, that's what I mean. Sometimes the pussies don't give me all the info. So this is a call for help. When you are writing these, I'm just needing a little more context sometimes.

So I can, like, so I can give you like a good prescription. Some jot notes. Yes. But I'm thinking, I don't, I really don't want her to mess up this relationship. with their best friend. Only because they're about to go to college. Yeah, that's just like, it's doomed to fail. Go to college.

If you come back from winter break and you still feel that way, yeah. And if you feel sparks. Yeah. And if you feel sparks, tell him. But like, who knows, you could get back from winter break. Let's say you tell him, worst case scenario, or not my, I'm sorry, worst case scenario you tell him. Yeah.

And then you get back from college and he says no. And then you get back from college and you don't even feel it anymore. But now your friendship's weird because you told him that. It's just like a lose-lose. So I would just go to college and, figure it out after that. Yeah. And you're going to meet people at college, too.

Yeah. I'm going to prescribe you gossip girl. Yes. Because... Wait, tell me why. Because there's a lot of... I didn't even think this, too. Because there's lots of situations where they, like, hook up with each other, and then it

ruins their friendship, and then it's awkward, and everyone hates each other, and you're like, why did you hook up with them? That's a great prescription, Tate. Thank you. Yes. That should show you. That should give you the anxiety you need to not do it. It's also just a great show.

Yeah, and then they all go to college. and then it's awkward. Yeah. So watch Gossip Girl. Yeah. Oh. Saw my ex on Hinge today and all her, oh my God,

everyone's a Hinge, you are. Oh my God. That just made my heart drop. If you saw your ex on a dating app, would you puke? Yeah, it would puke. I've never had a boyfriend, so I've never experienced that.

That would suck. Yeah. That would really suck. I saw my ex on Hinge today and all her picks were picks I took or picks she took to send to me when I was abroad. I reported her.

Work. I would do it too. I would report them. I would do it. If all the pick, actually, my friend once saw her ex-boyfriend on Hinge and he had cropped her out of a fucking photo. No. And that it was like a selfie of them.

She was the one that broke up with him, but she was like. You could not find a better photo than the selfie. And then I think I was in one of the photos. What? Yes. Oh my God. If I remember correctly, I was in one of the photos. And she was cropped out of one.

And we were sitting there and we were like, what the fuck? So yeah, report them. Yeah, report them. Report them. That would piss me off so much. I would, if I, because it's like, why am I helping you get a new, get a new, get a new partner? Yeah. Like, what are you talking about?

Yeah, this is all my work. This is all my work. Different photos. And you didn't credit me. And you didn't even credit me. Yeah. I would literally, if I did that, I'd be like my ex took these. Yeah.

I'd be like respect. Right. Like respect. Exactly. Yeah. I prescribe the report button. So I'm glad you already did that. I'm on exchange in France for six weeks.

And I'm in my last week right now. And I've met this guy and I've fallen in love with him. Oh, cute. Fuck. I'm addicted. I love that. I love that. We're acting like we're dating and now I don't know what to do because I'm leaving in one week and he's literally the love of my life.

And I live in Australia. That is so rough. Fuck. Oh, I'm so sad for you, girl. That sucks. I'm so sad for her. But see, the way we're different is you're like, oh, I'm so sad for you. But you've had a boyfriend before I've never had a boyfriend.

I would be like, oh, my God, I'm so jealous that this heartbreak is happening to you. Because that is so, you're going to relate to a million different songs. You know how many poems I would write? Right. I can't believe you've never experienced heartbreak before. Ever. I've experienced friendship heartbreak, which is arguably just as bad. Right.

But I've never experienced. Wait, Jake, why did I not know this about you? That I've never had a boyfriend? No. I don't know. I'd never had a boyfriend. Isn't that weird? That's crazy.

It's crazy. Also because you're like such a big music lover. I know. You really relate and the lyrics too. I know. That's my thing I always felt today. Well, you know. We always talk about it.

Right. I like, I always send her, like, lyrics I like and stuff. Wow. So maybe that's why I want to relate so bad. Right. And maybe that's why I'm looking for the wrong things, but. You're looking for the heartbreak. You're looking for the drama.

I would prescribe to you, come back, be here by Taylor Swift. Okay. I guess you're in New York today. Oh, long distance. It's about being in love with people. It's a little bit of long distance. Oh, that's so cute. Are any of your songs about long distance?

No. Sorry. I thought it was my phone. I was like, who the fuck is calling me? I also don't know how I've never heard that ringer. It's because I unplug to plug in with you. Same. Same.

My situation ship told me he wanted to get me flowers for Valentine's Day, but I don't deserve them. Oh. Okay, I'm sorry. Are you fishing for me to tell you you deserve them? Yeah, what is this? What is this question? It's fine. Take the flowers.

Take the flowers. Oh, my God. You deserve them, girl. Why don't you deserve them? I don't know, but I'm going to prescribe some self-love. Yeah. I'm going to prescribe some. Take a bubble bath.

Take a bubble bath and be like, I love me. Me. Oh, love myself by Haley Steinfeld. Perfect. I'm prescribing, I love myself by Haley Steinfeld. That's great one. And that is it for the tummy what's wrong. So you guys, we are moving into our final section of the day.

Wait, this is speeding through. I know. This goes by so fast. I know, but you know we've done like it's been an hour. Really? Feels like it's been five minutes. That is the biggest compliment I think you've given me. I'm having.

Because it means you're like so comfortable I'm having fun. I've given you better compliments than that. Yeah, that is true. Come on. So I created this segment specifically for Tate. It's a rapid fire. Tell Me What's Wrong.

This is perfect. It's called Act Now or Think Later. And we are going to read really quick, tell me what's wrongs. And we are going to decide if you should act on it now or sit and think about it for later. Okay. The About It in the title is silent. Boom. You see your friend's situation ship on a date.

app, act now or think later. Oh, act now. Tell your friend right now. Act now. Yeah. Because if you don't act now, your friend is going to get let on for so long. And then you're going to, it's going to come out that you knew.

100%. And then they're going to be like, why didn't you tell me? Yeah. I've had that happen to me before. Have you actually? Uh-huh. I've had a Tinder profile sent to me of my boyfriend. Do I know this?

I don't think you do. Was this? And I said, this must be fake. I said this is for sure fake. It was verified. No. It was verified. And you got it sent to you?

Yeah. But thank God you did. For my best friend. I was so smart. What was this? Brue, when was this? Brew, when was this? I don't know.

Like mid-relationship. Fuck, I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean, I didn't believe it, so it didn't hurt me at the time. So act now. Hack now, for sure. Okay. Ooh. I think we did this one in the song the other day.

Because I was like, I found this really fun game. for us. You see your friend texting about you. Act now or think later. Act now. I would be like, what are you doing? I'd be so pissed.

I'd be so anxious. I would think about it later. And I'd probably talk to another friend about it. I'd be like, I'd be like... You'd act now. Yeah, I'd be like, what's your problem? I'd be like, what are you doing? The proper responses to act now.

So Tate is correct. I just like, why, like, that's so fucked up. Act now, confront them. I feel like it's so pointless to just like... Yeah, because you're, seeing them that talk shit about you. Yeah. I've actually been caught doing that before.

Talking shit about someone? Yes, in front of them. Okay, and they turned to me and said, what are you doing? Oh, so you've had this exact scenario. He said, um, so from the person who actually did it, you should call them out because I had no time to text the person. Stop texting me. Right, right, right, right.

So yeah. So you got caught in the act, what did you say? Yeah. Really? I feel like that's going to be the most honest response. You have to be honest. Yeah. If you're the one talking shit, which I know some of you are, you gotta be honest.

Okay, and also, like, yeah, if someone's talking shit about you, asking them now, they're going to have no excuse. And if, I'm not. No, you are. They're going to have no, they're going to have no excuse on the spot. And then, like, if you were to confront them about a week later, they'd be like, oh, no, no, that was just blah, blah. Time to think about it. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, so act now. Confront them in the moment. Definitely don't think about it later. I think maybe I only said think about it later at first because I'm the culprit. Right. You're like, so I've been on both ends. And I want to have the week to think about an excuse. Oh, okay, this is an interesting one,

and I'm wondering if this ever happened with you. Your boyfriend doesn't like your group of friends. Oh. Has that happened to you? Yeah. And what did you do? I was just like, okay. Yeah.

I'm like, what do you want me to do about it? They're my friends. But looking back at it, do you wish you had act an hour thought later? About what? Like to him? Yeah, because it says your boyfriend doesn't like your group of friends. I guess do you say something to him or do you not? There's like nothing you can do to, like, change that.

though. Yeah. I don't think there's anything you can like really do. Right. To like. Tell, make them like each other. Yeah. So I guess you would think about it later.

Yeah. I don't. Think later, girl. Think later. Get that dick now. Think later. Yeah. Your friend gets a bad haircut.

Act now or think later. Act now. Think later. Because what are they supposed to do? Oh, my God. Oh, I guess. Okay. Well, no.

Coming from a girl with long hair, I want to see what you're taking. Now I hear your side because of like offending someone. Right, but now I want to hear your side. Okay, but so I walked into school one day when I was in grade 10 with like dark pitch black hair. It was so ugly and I had a short little haircut. It was like a medium length. It was so ugly. And everyone told me I looked amazing except for my best friend.

She was like, never again. She was like, I hate it. You look awful. Like this is not good for your skin tone. Were you mad at her at the time? Pissed. But then I changed my hair color. And I was like,

I look back at photos and I'm like, thank God you told me something. Are you still close with her? She's my only best friend. Act now. Act now. I'm like, you'd rather know. Like, sometimes you can't tell when you're looking at yourself in the mirror every day. Yeah, act now.

Especially if it's fucking changeable. I guess your hair is changeable. If they get a tattoo, you can't be like, God, I hate it. Because that's permanent. But they can change their hair color. But if you have a hair, if your friend has a haircut, you can be like, if they have a dress on that you don't like. If they have a haircut, a bad hair, like a bob or something, it's going to take a

a second to grow. So maybe don't say something. But if it's a hair color, they can change that. 100%. Yeah. So act now. Act now. Someone you sort of kind of know has really bad breath.

Act now or think later. You don't need to think about this at all. Act now. What? You would say something to that? If someone you like... If someone like you kind of sort of know, it was like, Tate, what's up?

I'd be like you want some gum? Yeah, you would. I would. Yeah. I would. I'd be like, oh, I have gum. Yeah. Okay.

I respect. I love your honesty. So, I'm going to say think later just because I hate confrontation, but I think ACNAO was like maybe the proper response because you're saving them from themselves. Yeah. A girl your friends would start spreading rumors about you. Act now, that is not your friend.

Act now. It's not your friend. Yeah, cut them off. Cut them off. Cut them off. Cut them off. They're not your friend. You shouldn't be around them.

At all. Keep your circle small. Okay, now this is, this is the last one. Okay. This is the last one. Okay. You hook up with... What?

Which other one? How did you miss these? Yep, there's two more. There's two more. There's two more. Okay, two more. You hook up with a guy and later find out he has a girlfriend. Act now or think later.

You hook up with a guy and later find out who's a girlfriend. Like, do you message to the girl? Or do you just, like, think about it later? I would think about it for a minute. I would think about it because you'd want to, like, figure out how to approach it. You cut off the guy. Cut off the guy. Act now on that end.

Act now on cutting off the guy. But messaging the girl, his girlfriend, think about that. You have to approach that, like, delicately. Yeah, because you don't want to like fuck her life up as well. Yeah, and not make her miserable. Right. You have to, you have to think about that message. So you don't come across like a bitch.

Interfering and someone else's relationship is always the trickiest thing because like, you're going to be like, well, why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't I? But it's just like history has proven time and time again that like interfering in other people's relationships, like sometimes it just really, I think as you grow older, you realize that like you you just want to be as in when you're in high school and middle school you're like I oh my god of course I'm going to tell them this this that yeah but as you grow older you kind of realize that like meddling and someone else it's not I wouldn't call it meddling but like

yeah interfering or just being in their relationship is going to cause everyone pain yeah and sometimes it's just easier to be like damn you're a shitty guy but I would definitely think about messaging you have to for sure think about it think about it because that's going to be so hard for heard or hear. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta be careful. Okay, this is the last one. Oh, and it's kind of similar.

Okay. So this is a great way. Okay. To end the act now or think later. Okay. Your best friend's boyfriend was seen flirting with his ex at a bar. Act now or think later? Act now.

I'm telling my best friend right now. Me too. I'm texting her instantly. Yeah. Yeah. That I think is just a simple. That like... You have to know.

So much, there's a lot to be said for not interfering in someone's relationship, but if I saw my best friend's boyfriend flirting with any girl at any bar, Yeah. Immediate photo sent to my friend. 100%. You're knowing. They have to know. They have to know.

Yeah. Act now. And also it's just flirting. Like they have to like, it's not like they have hooked up with them yet. So that is it for the act now. We're think later's. And just because it is based off her sophomore album, I'm going to tell you right now to go stream Think Later by Tate McCray. It is fucking fantastic.

And it is the best album you're here that you'll hear this year. And I mean that. And I'm not just saying that because she's my friend. I love you. Thank you. Okay. So what did we, what did we learn today in today's session? What did we learn?

I think we learned that it's important to act now if it's your best friend's relationship and that's at stake. And it's important to think about it if it's not your closest friend's relationship and to really like make sure you're, no, that's not what we learned today. Honesty is always key. Your eyes. You said. Yeah. Like what's happening? Honesty is key.

Honesty is always key. Like you honestly, facing things in the moment is much easier than dealing with the backlash after. Yes. Like, being honest and doing things in person

is always better. It's always the key. I think that was our biggest takeaway today. Honesty and in person. Honesty in person. Stop beating around the bush. Stop beating around the bush. Yeah.

And that's what we learned today. Yeah. Um, hold on. Okay. Yeah, so today was super fun. Oh, your session's up, guys. Thank you so much for. coming to therapist. Tate, thank you for coming on your first ever podcast. I'm saying that again

because I feel really special. You are welcome in the therapist office anytime. Thank you for having me. Me and the Pussies love you so much. Love you more. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. And I think now we're going to go hang out. Love you. Love you guys. Bye. Throw your 10s up. Our fingers down. So one, two, eight, tens up. Hi, Puzzies. Put your tense up. Put your tense up, fence up.