Therapuss with Jake Shane - Session 116: Adéla

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

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I, my bot, like the, uh-huh. I, um. Uh-huh. I can see your struggle. I, I'm really, I've been very manic today. And like, I feel good. Like, when I was on a call, me and Louise had a call earlier. And I kept asking for, like, pats on the back throughout the entire call.

Uh-huh. Like, I kept texting her being, like, I'm doing good, right? Because, like, and that's how manic I was. I feel like you're not manic today. You don't feel that way? You're not giving me manic energy at all. You're actually giving me good energy. No, but so that's the thing is...

But that thing, you see it? I've seen your mania. What is it like? It is like nothing I've ever experienced with anyone else. What is it like? How would you describe it? I would be sitting here for 30 seconds. I'd look at my phone 46 texts.

Shut up. You do that. You're a spammer and you're very impulsive. You know that about yourself. Come on. You're the most impulsive. person ever. Jake will decide that he wants to do something so random and then he won't consult anyone. He won't think about it for more than 15 seconds and he does it and then instantly he's like,

what have I done? We're like, we told you to fucking breathe and you never do. Um, Friday night. What happened Friday? That is a great way to put what happened Friday night. I started if I, I hate when you do that. I said you need to breathe. He starts spam texting him. I'm like, put your phone down, enjoy the concert and we'll call him tomorrow. Yeah. Like that's all that you need to do. And by the way, the lack of impulsion because I listened to my friends led me to a moment of realization the next day that I actually wasn't that mad.

I was just, I was insecure. I just, every time I have this brief moment of insecurity, I like really, like that is like my most manic. Yeah. And it's like, but I don't have a problem saying I'm insecure. but I guess I do sometimes. And I feel like you do listen. You'll take the criticism.

You take the clock and then you're like... I do listen to the clock. You listened to the clock. You did. I was proud of to go. Because you weren't in a place to listen. Neither was I, my love. It's beyond.

Every time I'm fucking doing this with you, I'm congested. Like the way I know that you'll fucking clock my ass if I like snort right now and I need to so badly. It's like right here. I don't feel well. It's not okay today.

And I'm in these pajama pants. Oh, we were just at Coachella. Like, we're not giving a timeline. Yeah. We just got home from Coachella an hour ago. Dare I say. Can you tell? I'm in merch.

That was the Coachella. We. That was the best Coachella. It was. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever.

I used to, I've seen one artist max a day. Yeah. And it's like, Why not lean in? Why not go at 3 p.m? Well, I know why. Because it's too fucking long, but 3 p.m. for you, my love.

I go when I go. And I will meet you there. Everyone did their own thing. Charlie went at 4. Charlie went at 4. I also still am like, I'm racking my brain. When did you go at 3?

Never. Jake never went. The earliest you went was. maybe five. What time did we leave for the festival that day? No, you came early on Friday. I came early. We went at 5.30.

5.30? 5.30. Not early. 2 and a half hour difference. Okay. But we party all night. Yeah. That's why.

Like, if you're going to go at three, like you can be asleep by one. Follow your bliss. We're going to go at five and we will see you at eight in the morning. Why are you laughing at me so much today? You're making me laugh. Okay, so my favorite set of the weekend. Septronics.

Me. No. You guys don't know what happened to me there. My soul left my body. No. Cass was in her chrome hearts beanie, and she had that beanie and... A dream. And a dream.

It was the best thing I've ever experienced. I'm sure it was. I'm not even kidding. My soul left. my body. I was looking around like it was euphoric. So the reason I'm so shocked is because this was Sunday. Sunday night. Sunday night.

The last set we went to. 10 p.m. Sunday night. I am shocked. Like I wasn't alive Sunday morning. I had to go home. I had to because I knew for my mental health this week. If I did not arrive home in my bed on Sunday, I would need Wednesday to recover as well. I can't afford a Wednesday. But you knew. You knew. And that's why

It's like you know yourself. Go home. I'm shocked. Good for you. I'm so happy for you. I had. Today it's hitting me, clearly. I've left for all day.

I think you're just low on sleep, but like, do you feel really horrible? Yes. I honestly, like. I've never felt worse. Not to be a bitch, but I feel awesome. Well, you stayed in last night. I went to Subtronics with you.

Yes, but after. Her and Will went out till 4 in the morning, and that's where I drew the line. We get back. So let me explain why this happened, because this is not my fault. You? After,

I don't, Jake, three nights in a row? Are you fucking clinical? I'm seriously not well. Let me tell you a highlight for me from this weekend. Should we peek and pit? Or peek and peak? Okay, I have a pet. But let me go with my peak first.

My peak, aside from the Bieber of it all, which is just in a league of its own, I would say, like, it really was Bieber cella start to finish. At the strokes, I understand that that is not your type of music. And baby, I understand. But I understand it is not yours. It's not mine. Okay.

I had a good time. I didn't even matter to me that I knew like this wasn't your type of music. I've never in my life had more fun. Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever in my life. Except when I was on Will's shoulders for someday, I already feel insecure that, like, sometimes I feel like my ass is a little fat. Your ass is not fat. What, but I did keep. You kept asking Will.

Do you need a break? No. No. And I was like, holy shit, Jake, just, if he needs a break, he's going to tell you. Anya you, the strokes was amazing. I would also say disclosure. Oh my God. Disclosure was euphoric.

Latch. And did I not call that? I said, not many people are going to go. You know. Also, everyone went. It was one of the more, I loved it's the entire weekend. It was so awesome. When latch happens.

My soul left my body. I don't even remember it. That was the best. Remember it. I blacked out. Let me just tell you one thing. I need to make one shout out here and right now actually, to Sydney and Kaden.

Our fucking girls. If I could send you my soul in a bucket, I would. I would. I would send you anything. They saved us this weekend single-handedly. Saved our lives. So shout out you for being great company. Imperfect.

Perfect. Made me literally every time I saw you both highlighted my weekend. I was listening to music with you, guys was some of the most fun I ever had. And also shout out Poppy for sending that up. Really and truly thank you. Like it was, it made my Coachella. And I understand that's not normal. It, to me, I am so grateful that it happened as never happened. Thank you. And thank you, Sydney and Kaden. Mike drop. Obviously, you know my peak and I just can't pick another one. I am the biggest believer ever. Ten toes down, believer. Cardboard cut out in my room,

Purple Beber, like, Tadded on my wrist, obsessed. I've never in my life, I will be honest, ever, ever, ever in my life, at a bigger believer in the entire world than you. I am. Every YouTube rabbit hole, every YouTube rabbit hole, you've been down. And I love him down and my love has never died. So obviously this was so important to me. No, no, no, no, Beber Tella.

And it's that serious for me. High swag. I took Jake's sweater and he's telling me I can't keep it. but I just might have to. Anyway. Because I don't know when the next time I'm going to be able to get my hands on this merch is.

Anyway, my biggest peak was the whole set list, but special shout out to when he was doing the songs from Never Say Never. Okay, what moment of when he was doing

that YouTube DJ set, which I thought actually genuinely was so fucking cool. He started on YouTube. He was discovered on YouTube. All of his videos were on YouTube. Like the video, when he did the,

when he did so sick, that is like a famous video of him singing to Usher. Did people not understand that moment? I don't think people are clocking and it's like, yeah, that moment to me when he was looking, looking at him, his younger self

to the video on my full body chills. That was insane. No, it was so sick. It was so sick for me when he did so sick and looked at himself. And I was like, I felt like he was really healing himself

and it was one of the more beautiful things I've ever seen. I was having an out of body experience, and he looked so happy. So happy. So happy. So happy. It was great.

And you could just tell that that's what he wanted to do. Like that is the way he wanted to perform. And it's like, yeah, do whatever the fuck you want. And if you're a real fan and you want to hear him sing, you will be happy with him sitting on the laptop and singing whatever the fuck he wants. I agree. And I think if anyone's thinking like, oh, he kept cutting the songs early, dur, so he could play all of them.

Right. He didn't want to have, he can't have a three-hour set. Yeah. Enough. Tell us strict. And now I'm pissed. But what was your favorite moment aside from the Usher one? Okay, when my, like, Harris was standing up on my body is when he went to click a video.

And I think it was Fall was like an intro for five seconds. And he clicked off the video and the whole crowd was singing it. And then he started like lip syncing it. And it's really like, if you know, you know a moment, which you obviously didn't know because you have no idea what I'm talking about. What is fall? Yeah, fall. in love. Ooh, my voice is really bad right now.

Wait, it's never good. Yeah. What? I'm pretty sure that was the song. Is that like an unreleased song? No, no, no, no, no. Because that's like, is it like a... Unbelieve.

Oh, so it's like a real deep cut. Okay. Yeah. And also I have so many moments, obviously, when he sang Favorite Girl, because that started the throwbacks and I really, it was a toss-up. I was honestly shocked he did Favorite Girl.

That he was going to do that. And so for me, would that be like Taylor Swift doing Coachella and seeing, if she, like, drops the archer? No. Okay, what would it be like that, related to Taylor Swift for me? Maybe a picture is to burn?

Picture to burn? Yeah, something from debut. It's very OG. It's from his first album. Or like, I'm only me when I'm with you. Not fall. Favorite girl is from his first album. Yeah.

Yeah. It's OG, OG, OG shit. That's one of his best songs. Should have said now. Yes. Yes. Yes. Should have said now.

Yes. Yes. Should have said no. If I heard my, if I heard the intro drums to should have said now and saw her rocking out on the Coachella stage on a Saturday night to should have said. Taylor has to do Coachella. When I tell you, it would change my life in ways that I would only see her. I wouldn't go anywhere else. I know.

Okay. A peak of mine. Did you not already have five peaks? No. Is it not Cass's turn? It is my turn. Oh. Katzai with you, Charlie and Will.

And that's crazy because I'm not... It was. That was one of my peaks. But that was actually the best time of my life because you guys were like, just come, whatever. I came with you and I was feeling that music so hard. And I think it was just like the night with my gaze. Yes.

What do you mean the night with your gaze? You Charlie and Will. Cass and the night with your gaze. I guess in her gaze. thought you got real philosophical about like oh my god life is so beautiful this is the first night of Coachella like the party's just begun why would that have meant that I don't know how that night with my gays how would that lead I heard gase G a Z-E like the night was my gay as if Cass is saying the Friday night I don't even I don't even I don't even understand that term so I don't

think I would put it down. So that's why I had this moment where I was really shocked for a second. Sometimes I think you think I have zero brain cells. Dude, that was an example of me thinking you had brain cells. Everybody else in the room.

Including you, what am I saying? I don't even know what that means. Yeah, you just caught yourself. What does gays mean to you? Like gaze. Like vision. Yeah. Yeah.

What the fuck? Also. Also, like, when would, first of all, when would I say that? Second of all, that night with my gaze, my boys. I get it. Was amazing. Also, my other peak was, I don't know if this really stands as a peak, but you were on the best form of your life this weekend. Agreed.

And like, actually, I was speaking about that with Will 50 times this weekend. He was in. I've never seen him this happy. Not one crash out. Like, no negative energy. Best energy you've ever had. And I know you kept saying you didn't want to be a host. but like you basically did all that for us and it was actually you were an awesome host you were the

I've never seen that energy so high from you ever before like that was amazing yep so you were awesome can I tell you my worry you carried a vibe that feeling cannot be long lasting I knew you're gonna say I am very concerned that now that I know what that feels like it is going to make feeling shitty this week that much worse I know I feel I get the same way pause you should tell him about the power going out. Oh. I want to hear about the power going out because I, you don't even know. I got in the car.

I said, Stella, Elliott, get in the car, we're leaving. The power had just gone out and I just get home. Uh-huh. What happened? We were sitting there. All of a sudden, obviously everyone's phone stopped charging. The Wi-Fi goes out. My self-service is just horrendous.

I cannot send a text without Wi-Fi. AT&T, fix that. Anywho, I literally My phone didn't work for two hours I had to go outside Obviously we're in the desert, the house is getting hot Your worst nightmare He's it was hot

It's getting hot, Ryan's shutting the doors And Cass is lying outside My phone doesn't work I had no thoughts this day No thoughts I couldn't even comprehend what was happening My phone was at 5% And I was like I'm just gonna let it die

Like nothing matters And you know Like I'm like really good at just going with the flow. I usually don't get super stressed. I start to panic. I am walking around in the backyard, holding my phone up. I start lying on the tennis court because I'm like,

this is an open area, lots of sky. Maybe I can catch a fucking vibe out here. Maybe I can send a text or two. No. I'm lying on the tennis court. It is blazing fucking sun. I'm dripping fucking sweat. I'm so hot.

I'm miserable. My phone's dead. I haven't had a text to. two hours. But notifications are rolling through. Jake mentioned you in the story. Henry mentioned you in a story. Julia mentioned you in a story.

I'm like, what is being posted of me? My phone's not working. And then I go inside, and this is when I know it's bad. The boys were in a bad vibe. When Ryan's in a bad vibe, that's when you know it's bad. And that's when I was scared. Like, how was he behaving? Like, usually, like, when we're like, oh my God,

Ryan's like, it's fine. Like, let's get you an advent. let's get you a bagel let's get up let's play music like right i walk in there right staring blank sitting on the chair holding his phone is your is your phone working he goes no but you can try to use it i go uh-uh uh-uh and then he was like i feel really sick and i was like this is making me really anxious that you don't feel well because i need you to be there for me what were luke's fives He'd ask us a question and we'd answer and he'd still have his noise canceling pods on and he'd be like, what? I'm like, well, I just answered.

Your headphones are still on. It was just like, and it happened for two hours. It was just like on. Was water working? Yeah, but like obviously when I'm sitting and dripping sweat, my phone's not working, my phone's dead, I'm not going to try to fuck a shower. That won't be blissful for anyone. I would have showered. I don't know what you would have done.

I actually would have been terrified. You would have been pacing around the house. Back and forth. So moral of the story is, Coachella was the best weekend ever. The best weekend ever. And this is us being positive. Like,

Coachella was awesome. Yeah. Enjoy the episode with Adela. It's amazing. She's amazing. Her new song, KGB, is out this Friday. It is fucking fantastic.

She is actually so unbelievable. I cannot say enough positive things about how incredible I think she is. She's so hot. I'm so excited to listen. Okay. I love you, pussies. Enjoy the episode.

Hi Pussies. Welcome back to Therapus and tonight we have on Pop Superstar, Adama. Thank you for having me, Jake Shane. Thanks for being here. I'm so excited. I adore you. I adore you. This is like a dream come true for me. To be on therapist? Honestly, yes it is. Well, thank you. It's like winning a Grammy. I like have a speech for this. Imagine. Imagine. I'm like crying. Hi, Pussies. Well, honestly, okay, can I just tell you?

something? Yes. When I first heard of the show, Therapus, when it first came out, I was like, kind of, I was like, wait. Yeah. And then you say hi, pussy's. I was like, I'm so confused. And then I got into it and I understand it now. The octopus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. But I'm kind of, wait, I think I know, like, did you review octopus? I reviewed octopus. I would like eat it. That's right. And then, and then I just needed a name for the podcast and it kind of just. Is that your favorite food? I'm in,

I'm interviewing you. No, no, please. I mean, I appreciate it. It is. I love it. I just don't need it as frequently as I used to. That's totally understand. In college, I would do it like four times a week.

Wow. Like when I was like in the height of my review era. Wow. Four times is a lot. Yeah. I love octopus too. You do? Yes.

How do you like it prepared? Grilled. Me too. Yes. But sometimes it gets a little tough, doesn't it? Yes. Yes. That's what I say.

It gets tough and chewy. That's right. Yes. So you have to actually review. Yes. Thank you. That's what I said. But then every, yes, yes.

It is a niche food, though. But I like that you, you found your niche. You know what I mean? Appreciate it. I really, really, and it really worked out. It really did. Somehow, some way it really worked out. We need to talk about the fact that I just watched a music video for KGB.

Oh, yay. And it's amazing. And it was filmed at the LA Theater. Thanks. It was shot at the LA Theater downtown. And how many looks in one day? Nine. Wow.

I think. We didn't have Budge for more than one day. Uh-huh. And that's okay. And that's okay. We said we have one day, okay. And you made that shit work. And we made it work.

And it was so fun. It was so scary also. But, you know, that's fun too. Getting a little bit scared. Yeah. I just like, okay. What was like scary about it? The schedule.

Yeah. It was just like, okay, we have one day. Nine looks. It was just insane. I like had to dance and I had like two takes for every dance shot because they were like, okay, next look. I was like, oh, okay. Um, so I was just like, I better get the shit right.

Right. And I did. At the end of the day, I did. And you always do, by the way. So, yeah, mostly. I try. You really always do. Not in rehearsals.

Right now I'm rehearsing for tour and I had a, I had a mental breakdown yesterday because it was the first month through and I was like, oh my God, I suck. I suck. But I have those moments in private. And then people, and then people can just be like, oh, that looks really good. How do you feel better when you have those moments? Um, I actually don't feel better. I actually currently want to

die That's okay Me too And by the way I woke up, looked at Louise Louise was trying to talk to me And I just kept going like this The other day I did a run through

Of my show and it sounded so bad That I just was literally like I was doing a queer queer like this It's kind of cunty though I was like call me the KG bitch It's just like Whatever Like who's like who's

fault is that that I sound bad. Mine. So it's like, who am I mad at? You are your harshest, own harshest critic. Right. But then I was like, okay, you know what else start feeling better when it sounds better and looks better? That's when I will start feeling better, honestly.

So it's like- That's that Russian training. That is that. That's that Russian training. That's that Soviet training. That's that Soviet training. So, you know, I think I just keep rehearsing. And when it starts sounding better, I'm like, okay.

Okay. And then I enjoy when it actually is looking good. But everything before that, scary. So scary. Were you this scared before you did? You did like a bunch of little shows. But by the way, can I tell you when I knew you were like something special? I mean, like I really think you were something so beyond special.

I mean, I know like who am I to say like I have no skin in the game. But I was at- All the skin in the game. Please keep going. I was at dinner. I was at dinner and I looked to my left and there was this whole group of people just watching your tour video at dinner

and they were like and look at her do this and this and I looked at my best friend Will and I was like, do you see that? Yes, yes, yes, yes. And I was like everybody is talking about her. Perfect, perfect, perfect. I need more people to be talking about me. Wait, no, I was at dinner with you.

Yeah. I was at dinner with you. I was like a thing about this story. And Owen Theo. And Owen Theo. Yes, I love Owen Theo. Yes. And I love everybody that watches those videos at dinners.

I love it. I love it. That's really amazing. That's really sweet. Yeah. And it was such a cool moment. It felt like this cultural moment where like everybody was watching. Because like, did you have any expectations for that tour?

Yes. I always have huge expectations. But it's like, but on myself, like I know that when I get on stage, I will gag people. So I had an expectation of like, I think people don't quite understand that I can gag the way I can gag, which is a good thing to have. But I also was just like, I felt zero pressure going into that tour because also I was like, oh, this is like the first time that people are buying tickets. Like, I've been a perform in my entire life.

I've like done ballets. I've like done the show that I was on. But it's always like you dance in a ballet. And you get to, you get to like dance the part, right? But it's like about the story. Like this was the first time that like people were. we're spending their money and time to go see me, just be me. So I was like, oh, perfect.

I actually feel zero pressure at all because I can just fuck around. Like, they paid to see this. Right, right. Okay, like, you know what this is. Right. It's me. So it's Adela. It's Adela.

It's The Adela show, really. Really at the end of the day? At the end of the day, it's the Adela show. So I was like, oh, amazing. Like, this is just all about me and I can do whatever I want. And so that made me feel really calm. This story is going to be different because I'm, I'm opening for Demi, but she has been such an amazing, like, supportive, welcoming mentor that I'm like,

shit, I feel welcomed too. Right. Like the Levotics. The Levotics. They're welcome. Do you have a fandom name? No, this is a story subject. Okay.

Tell me, tell me more. Like, people love names that I hate. Like what? A divas. Hate it. I hate it. That's the word. Best name ever.

I think like Adalians is funny. Ooh, I like Adalians. That people don't like it. Wait, what? I don't know. It's like me and my fans are like... I feel like you just need to decide and be like, this is it. That's what I say.

I'm like, this is the Adela show. Like, again, like, hey, what I say goes. Right. Clearly it doesn't. Like, I guess my fans is like the one thing that doesn't really go the way that I wanted to. Adivas is giving like, hey bestie. Adivas is going like... like, cunt.

And I'm like, okay, like, sometimes, but not all the time. I also like Adelphins, but that's like, people hate that one. Adelphins is funny. But I love that one, because to me that's, like, stupid. Yeah. I can just go like, what up Adelphins? And then... It immediately disarms people as well.

It disarms. Like, what did you just call me? Yeah. And a delephant, obviously. I will say I like Adalians. I like Adelians, too. Or, like, there was, like, Adelarinas. Oh, that's cunt.

Oh. Yeah, Adelarinas is cunt. Right, because I am a ballerina. It's like topical. Yeah, it's topical. And you can be like the ADRs, like Adelarinas. True. Right?

Right. I can be creative to. Right, right? I can be creative too. Maybe that's the one. I don't know. I'm like actively looking, but I think most fandom names are terrible, to be honest. Really?

Like, I enjoy very few. Yeah. Beehive I love. I get most fandom names. The one of the one. I don't get. There are actually very few I don't get because when they are delivered with enough passion, I believe them.

Do you know what I mean? Like if the fandom delivers it, like this is who we are. I got you. I think most of them could be bad. Arionator sucks. It's so hard to pronounce. And I know that she doesn't even like that. She wanted them to be called like, oh, she wanted them to be called Tiny Elephants.

She did. Back in like the, whatever, my Ariana Grande history knowledge. Wait, but can we talk about Ari for five seconds? Yes, let's talk about that. Because I am in a very big, we spoke about this the other day when we were going to to each other. And I was, I get yelled at every single day when I'm at the gym and I put on, because I put on Ari like front to back.

You should never get yelled at. And she walked in and she said, who put this on? And I said, me. Wait, can I like sit like this? Yes, please. But shoes on the couch. Yes, I'm going to take my shoes off. I would, but my dogs would be out.

No, don't worry. I don't feel that. And also, you're wearing lupitons. True, but they're like scuffed up. But isn't that how they should. be. And I agree. Isn't that how they should be?

And I agree. Red body should be scuffed up. That's it. That's cunt. That's cut. Okay. But you put me on to touch it. I like never heard touch it.

I guess I'm like a bad Ari fan in that sense. Arianator. But I love Arii. I just had never given touch it really the moment it deserved and you covered it at your show and it was I was like. It's so good. It's my favorite Ariana song. One of my favorite ones.

What makes it your favorite? The passion. I also saw it at the Dangerous Woman Tour. I was with my mom. How old was I? Like, 12, 13. It was monumental. Like, it's ingrained.

She was, like, doing the whistles at the end. She was, like, really putting her fucking Arian Nisi, like, her ponytail into it. Like, she, like, really, like, there was a growl. I was like, wow, this is just the best song ever. And then I also kind of, like, growing up, like, not being, like, the other girls. Like, I was like, ooh, touch it. Like, I'm going to put you on. No, you did.

You guys don't even know. And you did. And I did. At the end of the day, I did. What are your other favorite R.E. songs? Leave me lonely. Same album. So good.

By the way. I love my hair from positions because she does the outro all in whistles. It's amazing. What else? I love Honeymoon Avenue. Always tattooed heart. Always, always, always. I used to listen to out on the way to school every single morning back to back,

Honeymoon Avenue and tattooed heart. Well, yes. I love, I love ghosten. It's like historical, it's a period piece. Like you had to be there. It was a time to be alive.

I don't, I think like people who are like, you're gonna regret this. Why would you regret it? Everybody knows that she was engaged to Pete Davidson. Right. And that she said that he has a huge slong.

That's fine. And then she said, God forbid something happen. God forbid something happened. At least the song is a smash. Yes. And it was. Made fucking history.

Like it's honestly sickening like name be messy like music is the place to be messy I agree I feel like a lot of people don't agree These days because I feel like This like the like the peanut gallery is very loud and they're very loud and it's it takes Someone like Ariana to just like be like I care but I'm gonna keep doing it despite the fact that I care Right exactly you know what I mean like you just need to like even with like eternal sunshine like she spoke about her divorce it's like that's what makes people like feel something like that's why people ride for that bitch yeah that's what i will ride for that bitch that's why i'll ride for biance for the rest of my life like these these women like they said jZ cheated

on me lemonade right oh oh okay and like everybody knew everything and that's so sick yeah hey like there's people out there that've been cheated on i i i wasn't when i watched that, but I felt it spiritually. I felt it. I was there with my sister. That's how I felt listening to like, thank you next the other day. Like, I literally two-week situation ship ended front to back. And I was like,

I know we're in different situations, but like the way that they're able to chronicle like the highs and lows of a relationship, because the experience is so personal to them and you know what they're talking about, it helps you relate more. Right. You know what I mean? Music! Yeah.

That's the magic of music, baby. That is. It is. Do you find it difficult ever with, like, people, like, talking online? And, like, how does that affect you? Um, not really because I think I, I, like, wouldn't be doing my job if I let anybody telling me anything affect me. Like, my job is to be me to the fullest extent and, like, put that into my music. And obviously, like, sometimes you look at the internet and people have so many opinions,

but it's like I was actually talking about this with my friends. Like, me and Laura were talking about this. And we're like, we need to stop, like, looking up our own names on TikTok. I do not have Twitter. That place is forsaken. Okay. I recently have gone off Twitter. And you shall stay that way.

And I used to really love it. No, no, no, no. It's really scary. It's really funny when you're not the butt of the joke. And then it gets really scary and sad. It gets really, really scary and sad. I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, my God.

And it's like, oh, my God. These people like, they don't know me and I don't know them. And anything that you could say to try to make them understand you more will just, they'll somehow twist it to, they already have a preconceived idea of who you are. So it's like there's no use to write it. Like it's like, okay, just let them. Just let them. But it's going to free you.

Because it genuinely is like, I think it's like the worst thing ever to understand that you're being perceived by so many people and like hear what they have to say about you. Like I'm going to be honest. Like, do you know who two Hollis is? Yeah. He would like talk about this and he was like, I'm off social media. Like whatever, whatever. And I was like, okay, Hollis, like you're off social media. Yeah.

But I was like Fuck Hollis, you're right You're like I should be off social media Like he was on To something Because I was like I started writing this album And then there was a point

In time that people started saying something On the internet and it like I was thinking about writing songs differently Because somebody said something And I was like uh oh right Wrong I was like that's wrong I can't do that

So I just I'm kind of off Like I'm very on the internet But I'm off Twitter. I do look up my own name on TikTok. Every morning. Still.

Every morning. Yeah. Every morning. But I should stop doing that. I'm like thinking of honestly blocking, you know how you can like mute certain words? Yeah. I might mute my own name. But also like I'm not enough yet to be like really not looking if people are talking about me.

Because the conversation is important. Like I think once I'll get like really famous, then I'll be like, well, fuck it. Like right. I know I know people. I know people are talking. Yeah. And I'm like at peace with that. Yeah.

And now I can just, like, move completely. Like, I don't have to look myself up. But right now I have to keep checking. I'm like, is Owen Thiel watching my video at dinner? Right. And we were. And you were. And we were.

And that's great. That's great. You know what I mean? Was it hard? Did you delete after the, like, the, after the documentary came out? Or did you delete, like, more recently? Honestly, I've had, like, waves. Like, I.

was looking myself up. When the documentary came out, it was really interesting because a lot of people, when you're on a reality show, and you're a young girl who people love to tear young girls into shreds. This is just like their favorite pastime.

They just like think that, like, were the villains, which is like... I think they also think you guys are, like, easy, vulnerable targets. Right. But then also at the same time, everybody, like, tries to be super woe. And it's like, well, if you're so woke, then you shouldn't be on Twitter.

That part, I think. That part. But, but, yeah, so people were really tearing into us and not just me. Like, my best friends who made it into the group, my friends who didn't make it into the group, like everybody, all these young girls who at the end of the day spent almost two years of their life away from their families doing some really hardcore fucking boot camp training. and like situate going through situations that you guys will never know because obviously not everything was shown in the documentary we're now also getting torn to shreds on the internet by strangers so I was like this is so insane obviously and so crazy but also I was like it is not the time to be depressed about this it is time to put out music about this because people are talking about it so they want to hear what I have to say and I don't like talking, I like singing. So I shall sing about it. And that's kind of how my career started.

So really I was just like, I didn't delete it. I didn't delete Twitter. I didn't delete social media. I was like looking at it, but I also had the understanding that I was like, okay, these people just don't understand me at all and know me. And that's okay because they haven't gotten the chance to. And I think still, like I have seven songs out. Like people don't really know me.

Like I think they'll get to know me eventually through like all my work. but and they'll, I mean, they will never know me. Like, we'll never be friends. Really? We can't be friends. We can't be friends. But I like to just pretend. I used to think that song was about her ex-husband,

but I was convinced and swayed that I actually think it's about the press and the fans. I've heard. I've heard. And I really believe it. I believe it, too. Because you have a love-hate relationship. It's like you are so. thankful for your fans and for the people that give you the life that you've ever wanted, you know, like the life that you've dreamt for yourself. But also it's like being paris social is like a double-edged sword, honestly.

Because to me, like as a girl from Slovakia, like I was really paris social with like the Arianas and like the Beyonce's and like the Gagas and like. And it honestly really helped me. The Miley's. Like it really helped me growing up and like not be. where I wanted to be and like if there was a tough situation at home like I had a place to go to. Always. So I actually love like being a parisocial figure to people because I'm like this is something that I needed.

So I get to be that for people that need it. But also sometimes it does affect you when those people start to like feel like they have some sort of like deciding power in your life. Right. That's when it gets really tricky. Yeah. Because I also can relate to what you were saying like when I was. a kid like I would go to these pop stars as like those were my worlds right like I would I feel like

I felt like I was them right in a sense you know what I mean like I would watch ariana I would watch Taylor I would watch Beyonce and I would like become daydream and like become that confidence that they exuded which is so beautiful like that's why I left pop music because I'm like this is like it's so it's such a powerful thing and I think a lot of people love to think about, especially the music that I do, like think that it's fucking stupid and it's like whatever, but it's like I know from experience that it means so much to so many people. But then, you know, there's the pros and cons.

Yeah. But I'd much rather be that for somebody and deal with the cons than not do what I do. You know what I mean? So you'll never catch me like complaining about it. Yeah. I'll just be like. You'll just recognize it. Yeah.

I'll just be like, okay. I get it. You guys think that we have a special bond and like we do. But you can't decide how my life is going to play out. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why you like me. You like me because I make my own decisions and I have my own autonomy.

So when you guys come and tell me how to live my life, that's when things change. Yeah, that's when things. If you listen to the people, I think that's when things stop working. Yeah. I agree. That's when like the difference between a pop star and like a true pop star. You know what I mean? It's like the people that like then get swayed by the audience and like start not being authentic to themselves.

Or you're in Ariana and then you write a thank you next about it. You know what I mean? I mean. When you say those words to me like my entire body gets covered in chills. I love it. I love I love what I do. I love pop culture. It's so fun. I love pop culture.

It is so fun. Did do and so you were a big Hannah Montana fan. Huge. Yeah. Okay. So was she like biggest massive. Massive. Of all time.

So what was that like when you went to the 20th anniversary? Did you meet Miley? I didn't talk to her. She just passed by me, which, by the way, didn't even expect I would see her, like, up close like that. So I'm totally fine with not talking to her. Honestly, I might have preferred it because I think I would have shot myself. Like, I genuinely think I would have, like, I would have malfunctioned.

She passed by me, Sam, my manager, immediately tears. I, immediately tears. I had to wait because it was photo time. So I couldn't tear up yet. So I was like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my least her. I was like, oh, my God.

And she was, like, blonde and had a little bit of a bang. I was like, oh, my God, that's like, Hannah Montana. No, she was really, Hannah. I've seen that special twice now. No, no, no, it's really fucked up. Yeah. And so then I went, did the photos. I passed by her.

I was like, oh, my God. Like, I literally, like, heart in my ass. Yeah. And then I went and sat down. Jojo Siwa sat right in front of me. So that was, like, also. fire. Like I got to hear Jojo's voice.

Like singing along to the songs. I was like, this is honestly my dream come true. Like, I'm not fucking kidding. Like I was like and she, that girl was meant to be a star. I don't give a fuck. Like everyone was singing along, singing along to This is the Life. But you could just hear this is the live. Like Jojo's voice.

Like it fucking cuts through. Like she has a voice. She does. She has a voice. She does. She's Jojo. She's Joelle. It's like I was so hyped.

I was sitting right behind her. I was like, yes. And without people like her, what would we do? What would we do? And you love to watch her. And that's what entertainment is about, isn't it? Yes. Karma Fire Song.

Karma Fire Song. Karma fire song. What is it? Karma's a bitch. Betty Davis. Fire. Fire cover. She covered it and brought it to the new generation.

Now the new generation knows Betty Davis eyes. You heard her through the whole crowd. It was palpable. I think if I sat on the other side of the theater, I would have heard her. But like genuinely, like, it was because I'm saying, like, she has a voice. Like, there's something. She was meant to be a fucking star. And she can dance.

She can dance. No more Jojo Siwa. Lanner. I'm sick of it. Like, she's a, she's a personality and she figured it out. She found her niche, bows and raspy vocals. Yeah, I'm like, what would we do without her? Like, really, like, really, what would we do without her? What would you do with all that free time? But doesn't she make you smile? Yeah, doesn't she make you smile? It's true. She's, she's everything to me. Like, whatever. So Jojo was sat right in front of me. Jowel. Joel, Joel. And I just like, bawled through the entire thing because I just love Miley and it was so emotional and I was like I can't even

believe that I'm like in in this theater like like being invited to this like I really grew up thinking that Hannah Montana was like some slow back girl because they dub it over yeah so so I was like oh I thought that she was just slow back oh oh sorry oh they when you watched it in Slovakia. It was in Czech. But it's like, Czechoslovakia used to be like, we used to be girls. Like, we used to be together. Right.

So I was just like, oh, she's like from a neighboring country. Like, she's like down the street. Like down the block. How would she say sweet niblets? I don't remember actually. But I like didn't know that it was sweet neblets for like the longest time. Right. But yeah, like to me that's who she was.

And that was my introduction to being a pop girl. And then my older brother was like, oh no, honey. she's American and I was like oh shit like I have to learn English and that's how you started learning English yes it is it's crazy and so to me it's like again parisocial but so needed like when my parents were fighting I would turn that shit all the way up blast me some Hannah Montana and like learn English and my on my like in my AirPods because I was like I'm going to be that one day like it was it's genuinely the catalyst for my career and for my life and for what I love to do.

How did you learn English by watching Hannah Montana? Would you like? So I basically, I found out through her that they were speaking English, so then I switched it to English, like on TV. And then I started watching all of her interviews. And then I genuinely would just watch everybody's interviews. I would do like, I was eight when I was like, okay, I have to learn English. Because I had a whole plan.

I was like, I'm eight years old. I have a couple years to learn English. by 15. I'm going to fly out to California. I looked up the address of the Disney Channel headquarters. I was like, okay, wrote it down. I was like, period. I'm going to audition during pilot season. I was like, why the fuck do you know what pilot season is? Like, you're eight years old and in Slovakia. It's like so strange. But I was just like, I had a whole vision. I had a plan. So I was like, it's now. Like the time is now. I have to learn English. And so I was like, okay. So I was watching her interviews. I was watching Ariana's interviews. I was watching

um Beyonce interviews like Gaga and then um slowly but surely like I honestly don't even know what happened I think one day I just realized I had the subtitles on so I could read in Slovak what it meant but I think one day I was just like wait I just understand like it was like it's like because you're and your brain is still developing so it's developing with that it's like a sponge you know what I mean like I was like soaking it all up I mean in a sense you lived with them. Yes. Like I it's all I would do. And I would like then act like

once I realized that I can understand I was like let me try talking and so I would like see them on Ellen and so I would like watch. Sorry. No I mean But I But I was a moment It was a moment in time. It happened we can't pretend

that it did it. We can't pretend that it did it. Okay on Fallon Like I would see them on Fallon and I I would sit in my room and I'd be like, yes, Jimmy, like, whatever. Like, I would act like I was being interviewed. And then I would, like, hear how they're saying their words. I would like mouth it with them. I was like, one, two, Jimmy Fallon.

Wow. Generous. I was like, that's like, that was my thing. And then within a year, I just could speak English. It was really strange. If you ever need a check, you should really reach out to Duolingo. I think that they would really give you the most. The thing what Dualingo is I don't think it works.

You don't think Duolingo works. At all. I think it's fake news. Tell me more because I'm pretty sure Manny is trying to learn Spanish through Duolingo right now. I think it's fake news. As somebody who's learned in English really well, like people sometimes don't know them, not from here. I think the only way you can learn a language is just like what I did. Like you need to like immerse yourself.

You need to be watching movies in Spanish. I mean, Manny's phone is in Spanish now. Good. Good. That's what she should be doing. I don't know if Duolingo is doing that. work for her. It probably keeps her accountable.

Like, it's like, you need to do it. Right. But that's really the only way. She should honestly go to Spain. Not that I want you to lose her. No, I would go with her. You would go with her. Got it.

That's my girl. Got it. That's my girl. So you guys should just go to like Spain or, you know, like South America and just like figure it out. And figure it out. Because she wants to learn Spanish. I think that's the only way, really.

What I was going to ask you was, because when I was watching, not to bring it back to Hannah Montana, but when I was watching, but when I was, was watching the special, I was like so many of these songs really to me like stand the test of time. And I don't know if that's the writing, if that's the compotion, if that's Miley or if it's all of it. But like I was like listening to This Is the Life. So good. And I was like, because I remember when I was a kid and my dad would hear No a lot, he would listen to the climb as like a 50 year old guy. And that's when I realized that like Miley was very universal and like her delivery and a piece.

heel and like I thought the climb was kind of the only example of that but then when I was watching the special and I heard this is the life I was like yeah it puts things into perspective hold on tight the hold on tight line really gets you huh hold on I mean when she's saying it like Sam will tell you I was bawling I was like oh my god because these songs honestly when I heard them as a kid I didn't know what they meant not one bit because but you're not supposed to well you're not supposed to well you You didn't know, but I really didn't know because I didn't even speak English. So I was like, I was like, this is the wife. Like I was like really like, I was like off my rocker.

Like it was like it was really sadding like a foreign. I thought that it was like music language. I was like, oh, this is just like what you do. This is just like blah blah blah blah. Blah blah. Yeah. So I was like, okay, but now I listen back. And I was like, these songs are so, hey, well written.

She was singing down and performing and performing and selling. as a 12 year old, like, she had it in her to be like, this is the live, like, as a 12. She meant that shit. She meant it. I'm like, wow, like, what a, what a prodigé you were to be able to do that at such a young age. It's so good. Is that your favorite Hannah song?

No, I kind of love. Oh, my God. What is that one that, like, sounds like a Britney song kind of. Oh. Not, it's actually not the one that I'm not. You didn't get this? No, no, no, no, no. But that's a good one.

Yeah. I like, I like, life is just a party. So calm as you are. Like I love that. Everybody's rocking. Never get your guitar. Yeah. Which one is that, Louise?

I don't know. Everybody's rocking like a, oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My favorite is the climb just because I feel like that. It will always, like, resonate with me. Like, I was. really depressed in a car with her and my tour manager, Matt. And I was like so depressed.

And I had this moment where I was thinking about like the next thing. And then the climb came on and I looked around. You cried. And I, well, no, but I was like, I looked around and I was like, but once I get to that place, I'm going to think about the moments that this, these moments. Right. Because it really is not about where you go. it's about how you get there.

You want to know the craziest part? My boyfriend's dad made that song with her. Shut up. I know. Shut up. That's really like when my boyfriend told me that, I was already like, ooh, like, you are so sick. Like, I want to be with you.

And then he was like, my dad, my dad made the climb. I was like, oh, it's wraps. I'm in this family. I love it here. Like, I was like, Isn't your boyfriend a producer as well? Yes. Okay.

Jackson, Shanks. Shout out to him. Yeah, I met him outside of Pache once. Yes, you did. You did. I was like, do I know you? He said, mm-mm. And I said, totally, got it.

Yes, he told me. He told me. He was like, he thought he knew me. I was like, maybe he did. I don't know. He looked weird. He looks so familiar. He's just like hot white guy.

Yeah. Yeah. They all kind of look alike. How'd you guys meet? Our producer set us up. So he signed to Blake Slotkin, who's executive producing my, um, album and so I had just gone through an ugly ugly breakup I was like four months into it or like three months out of it I was just like oh my god like I'm over this guy but also I met him on hinge

I was like I'm not ever going to be on hinge again like I'm not going there I'm not going on fuck-ass raya like I'm not doing that shit so I was like where am I even gonna like meet a man and he was like you should just get set up by somebody I've always been set up by people And I was like, well, why are you talking about it instead of doing it? Like, come on. Set me up and he sent me up with my boyfriend. And now we've been dating for almost a year. Happy almost one year.

Thanks. That's amazing. Thanks. It's actually, it's been, he's been so sweet and so silly. Yeah, he's lovely. Very kind. He's very kind. Very kind.

And we don't make music together because I said, uh-uh. Yeah. Except when it's not scary. Like, I love when somebody, like, collabs with their boyfriend. And then it's also like a test of time. Like it, like once they're out of it, like I just love the whole thing. I honestly, I honestly would want to one day, this is my like big plan. One day I want to like collab with an ex on a song when we're broken up.

And we're like getting hella ugly on the song together about each other. So it's Silver Springs. Yes. Yeah. But I think it was just her singing. Right. I want both POV. Oh, like, add each other.

Like, you know somebody that I used to know? Yeah. Like that. Yeah, but like. At each other. I love, like, how you're so open and honest about, like, your dreams and being like, I'm going to get this because you have got, you are getting it. Yes.

Yes. But a lot of people are so, like, scared to say what they want. And then when you send people, when they say what they want can get, like, so, like, they're never going to get that. So I think it's like super cool for like young girls to see you be like, I want this and I'm getting it. I think that's the vibe. I think also like there's a lot of things that I want that I haven't said.

Like I would love to take care of my mom one day financially. And that's really a big goal of mine. Like all this like success, whatever is really like for me to do that one day. So it's like, and obviously I love singing, but it's like there's things that like I think people don't know. That are like way more personal things where I'm like, I mean it's. clear like I'm trying I'm fucking popping my puss on stage I'm trying to sing all the songs I'm trying to hit all the notes like you can see what I'm trying to do here like I'm not you're hungry for it yes like I'm not like I'm not but there's also like a lot of like humanness and goals that I don't like necessarily talk

about that much but it's like why would I not say that I want it when I clearly want it like I wouldn't be doing like little club shows where I'm like belting my heart out and like dropping into a split and like doing it back, but then like whatever, if I didn't want it. I also think there's this like inherent thing with female musicians where the world thinks that they need to give it to you. Do you know what I mean? It's like you have to be like humble and like gracious and not say what you want, whereas like a guy can get on there and be like, I'm the best, I'm the baddest, I'm the best, I'm the best.

And I think it's like. When the male is like, it's very gaga of you to get up there and be like, this is what I want. Well, because doesn't everybody want that? Yes. And that's the gag is you think like there's some artists that like don't care about it. Everybody cares about it. Everybody wants to sell an arena. Everybody wants to do it.

And it's not like it's a bad thing to want to be successful. Like to me, that's why I again loved Beyonce growing up because she was like, I always wanted this. But she also shows you how much work she puts into it. Like I've seen the homecoming movie 13 times. Seriously. I've like, like, and I think who else is doing that? Like, Zara Larson is also doing that right now. And, like, she's been somebody that's been working on it for so long.

And she's finally fucking getting her flowers, God bless. And, like, for good reason. She's so great at what she does. And I think that's, I think essentially it's like, if you put in the work, not saying that you want it feels, like, stupid. It's like, so what am I, like, putting all this work? like, Naga anywhere?

Right. No. And I think, honestly, for a lot of men, they don't have to put in that much work to get there. So maybe that's where, like, like, and then they're the ones that get to brag.

It's like, okay, like, what are we, what are we talking about here? Like, I'm just so confused. Yes. But anyways.

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I'm actually so excited. Yeah. Well, thank God. No, thank God. Um, no, I, so with this album, my big, um, goal was just to make music that I would want to listen to. And I know everybody always says that. But with my EP, I think everybody, everything was so like, I was almost trying to catch up to the momentum that had come my way. Because I had zero support from a label for a good chunk of the first releases.

Like, I was indie. I had just come off this documentary where I very publicly got rejected from being a part of Katzai It was just like a thing And so I was like okay Like I gotta keep putting shit out To prove something to people

And I think those were also Some of the first songs that I've ever written And I had to put them out right away And so not written but like made Yeah So and I had to like... Because you wrote that one song in the documentary That I loved by the way

Dream bitch? That might have been one of my first songs that I've ever written It's called Dream Bitch right? I think so. I really loved it. And I was like, I need to ask her if she's ever planning to put that out because I really was moved by it when they were playing it. I am not planning to put that out ever.

Okay, got it. Great. I'll find it online. Yeah, you can scroll down on my TikTok. But I always loved songwriting. I just, like, never was in the studio and, like, made a song. And then as soon as I started making them, I started putting them out. So anyways, all that's the same, the EPI, as much as I think those songs,

you know they served a purpose at the time and got me to where I needed to get I don't think it was like the most authentically me yet like sound yet and also like I don't think they were they're not necessarily songs that I listen to honestly like I really wanted an album that I was like I want to play this every day and I think that's what these songs are for me. Not to shit on my old songs because I hate when artists do that because those songs can mean so much to so many people. But I think to me it was just like I don't think I was like quite there yet and it wasn't completely my taste wasn't refined yet. But that's okay. Yeah. And hey, I think like this album it's more refined but probably my next album will be even more refined.

Like that's how it goes. Right. So with this album I just I'm I really love the songs. I listen to them. I was listening to them all my way here. It's really, it's really girly. It's really fun. I think my EP was like a lot of like messaging. And like there was like a lot of like, this is what it's about. And it was like there was a lot of like, like I needed to take a stand on some things. And like there was like a lot of like, like, I was just like this is my message.

Right. But that was your message at the time. Yes. And that's how you felt at the time. And I. did. This time there are songs where I get very vulnerable but I also explore like

love and like you know just feeling hot and then also feeling heartbroken and etc so I think it makes me a little bit more human instead of I think my EP was such a response to what had happened on the show and like what the people and the people are saying about me and like my first experience of being exposed to like an audience

this album is just like me fucking around and being a person, which I like more, you know? I'm so excited. So I really, really am so excited. And I can't wait to perform it everywhere. Yeah. I'm really, really happy with it, honestly. I'm so happy for you.

And selfishly, I'm really excited to listen to it. Not selfishly. Like, please listen to it. Please. I'm so excited for you. I will say, I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit for how vulnerable those songs are. They are very vulnerable.

And I think you really should give yourself more credit for that because it's not how you feel right now, but it's how you felt then. And you were really honest at a time where you could have hit away. And I think that it was something really cool and something people really resonated with. It's true. I actually, it's true. I did eat, actually. You're right. You're right.

You're right. I mean, it's just hard when you're an artist and like now I'm so out of that where I'm like, because they're also like the only seven songs I have out. So I think now, like, the people that have listened to that EP, I think they might expect something from the album that's kind of similar. And I just, I think I want to make it clear, like, I am a person. And, like, that was something, the EP and the messaging of that was something that was pressing to me at the moment. But overall, like, I have had more experiences than that. And, like, there's also more to me than just, you know, everything that that was about.

So, I mean, I don't know. I think I'm going to like get a lot of new people listening because it's a it's a I think a lot more I would say relatable. It's like a general audience, which is really good. Are you still working with Alex Chapman? No, not on this album, but I love Alex. I love Alex. He did what, sex on the beat? Yes, he did sex on the beat.

I love Alex. Yeah. He's a key and I love gag. Yeah. I love gag the party. Oh, that's his party that he puts on. I thought gag was a person for a second. And I was like, who is that?

In LA, in LA, it would be. Yeah, I love gag. I would have been like, okay, great. Me too, I love him. What are you therapists about today? I'm therapist about my ass hurting. From dancing? Mm-hmm.

And my workout the other day that I saw you at. My ass hurt. It was leg day for me. Leg day. Yeah. My ass has been hurting so badly for the past few days. I can sit down. straight.

You need a massage. Yeah, but I'm also rehearsing so it's like I can't really get a massage. Like there's no time. I have zero time to do anything. But I like literally have to sit down like this. You're sitting like as you just got a BBL and you're back on the plane. Do you know the people that like go and travel to get BBLs and they have the BBL seats and they sit like this? I'm on the Turkish Airlines flight.

Yes. From my BBL appointment. Have you seen the BBL? B elsie, it's, is there something, it's a sight to behold. Yes, but that's what it is. Whatever I'm sorry, though, I feel like, oh, like, at least I moved. But I just, I'm like, there's way. But you move a lot.

I move a lot, and I also, like, literally today, I was, I woke up and I, like, immediately the first thing that I did, I felt pain. Like, I was like, immediate, I went, I was like, ow. And I was, I was kind of pissed because I was like, this is going to be the rest of my life. Like, I'm, you. You never stop being sore. Like when you work out. But you should take care of yourself.

You should find like 30 minutes in a day. No, no, no, no, no. But it's genuinely like right now because we're like rehearsing for the tour. I have to like cut vocals for the album. And I'm trying to also like, I had to have therapy yesterday. You. And I was just screaming. Like screaming.

I was like screaming. That's really good. It felt good. I left and I was like, I feel better. She was like, well, why don't you write a pros and cons list about them? And I was like, word. Okay. So I wrote a pros and cons list and then I called him after and I was like, I just talked so much shit about you during therapy.

Here are my pros and here are my cons. You're my favorite person ever. Wait, that's amazing. It was pretty awesome. And then he was like, he tried to come back at me. I said, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh, your gas sending me. He said, well, did you tell her about? I said, sure did.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What is he, a street man? Yes. Hmm. When a streetman, streetman always think that they're eating when they're not eating. eating. I told him I was sad yesterday and he said, just feel better. What?

Why didn't I think of that? Why didn't I think of that? I said, I hate when you say that. Why didn't I think of that? Thanks so much. Thank you so much. Straight men just have the audacity. They really do well because they've never had to worry.

They've never had to worry. Everything has been quite easy for them. And I've said this to my boyfriend too. I was like, you have like, you guys just need to fucking, like you guys need to struggle. Especially when a straight man is hot. It's unfair. Unfair. And somehow my boyfriend is also funny.

No. That's not fair. It's not fair. And it's tough sometimes because they really have... So he's funny, straight. Talented. Talented. He has it all.

I was like, do you understand who you're dating? I was like, I'm from Slovakia. Like, I'm not supposed to be in this bed right now. Right. I was supposed to be in Slovakia. You did say you wanted to try Kachas. Yes. And that wasn't from me.

No, no, no, no, no. We saw them. Do you like sour? Yes, I love sour. Okay, here, these are the sour gummies. They're great. These are the non-sour. So wait, it has no gelatin?

Yeah, they're vegan. Wait, should we do ASMR? Yeah. Do you want help? They're really good. Yeah, they're vegan. I'll give you the full, the full story. Cautius.

Mm-mm-mm. You like? I love Cotches. It's actually really good. Right? They're fire, right? They're really fire. Wow.

No, and then you can't stop. And the aftertaste also hits. Wow. Yeah, that's the best flavor. Go for that one. Mmm. Right. Right.

Right. This is fire. I know. I feel like I got very lucky. Wait, congrats. Thank you. Good product. They were looking for a U.S. partner.

And I was like, wait, because I've actually, my best friend Brett, brought them home from a snack Expo two years three years ago and I was like no way he was like this gummy yeah right and I was like wait please float my name by them I'd love to meet with them and now we're making candy magic happen this is really good no it's really good this is amazing uh-huh we'll give you a few packs fuck yeah they're fire fire fire fire fire fire I'm so excited for you thank you and I don't see anything bad I just like really like aligned with like the company's like morals and like their like the way that they view life and like I know that sounds silly but like when I met with the team like the way that they viewed the world was like very similar to like the way like I want to like approach the world and like it just really was Kismet at the end of the day and it worked and now we're working together. This is so good.

I also only ate a bar and this is my like real first food of the day. No, they're fire. It's really good. They're fire. I can eat this entire thing right now. I'm so happy. We have many a packs. And there's a unicorn.

We'll send them. We'll send you a big box for your tour. Yes. For your rider. Yes. Wait, I'm actually obsessed. No, they're good, right? Like, they're like fire, fire.

If you go to an AMC, you can get them at AMC. Really? Yeah. So have you seen Project Hail Mary yet? No. Okay, if you go to see Project Tell Mary. Wait, which one is that? Because aren't there like two Hail Mary movies right now?

No, it's just that it's that big. So you're probably thinking that there's two. But like everybody is talking about it. And like, I was like, okay, I'm going to go to the movies. And I saw it last night. It's the one with Ryan Gossel. Yeah, and I was very moved. Really?

No, no, really. I was not gagged by the billboard. I keep seeing it and he's like, it looks like a Marvel movie. No. So there are elements where it can be confusing, but you kind of just have to go with it. Would you agree? Yeah, it was fantastic.

Like I was so I was I was I like cried I like a few tears were shed Like I was very moved I was very very very moved Have you seen Hamnet? Yes Oh yeah

Oh oh oh That one was deserved It was it was disastrous to me I was like Yeah it was gutter all When she like that whale She lets out when her son dies I

I've never seen anything like that I was like I feel like I'm watching a documentary That's how I felt during that moment I felt like, do they know the cameras are rolling? Yeah, I know. I was like, I forgot that they're acting. That was the first time. And that little kid acting down.

Acting down. Yeah. It was so good. I watched it in a movie theater and I was like, I wish I honestly didn't because I wanted to literally go like, ugh. Like I wanted to like let out a wail. Yeah. I was like, oh my God. I wish I saw it in a theater.

So. But instead I had to be like, like, like I was like shaking. Yeah. Any other movies you've seen lately that you love? What are you watching right now? I never watch anything. because I actually lie. I started to watch a lot more movies this year,

but usually I would be like completely bone dry. Like I'm not watching anything. Interesting. Kind of. And it was a really bad trait because I think obviously movies are a great outlet or like inspiration or whatever. But I just like I never like shows too much of a, too much of a commitment.

I'm a show guy. It's just that if I watch a show, I'm so obsessed that I'm going to need to binge watch it. Yeah. And I can't do that. You don't have the time. I don't have the time. And so it would be, it would be detrimental.

It would be detrimental to my business. If I started a show, like, I can't do it. And then movies, I just, like, never got into it for some reason. Like, I was like, I never in my head. I'm like, oh, like I should watch a movie. But this time I did. I watched Virgin suicides. Have you seen?

Never seen. Really great. But it's great. Really great. I watched Girl Interrupted. Also never seen, but it's been on my mind lately. You said, because. Because I remember when I was 15, I cut microbangs on accident, and I posted a thirst trap on TikTok,

and somebody trying to make me feel better was like, oh, you kind of resemble Angelina Jolie and Girl Interrupted. And I was like, okay, I should probably watch that movie. Do I think that I resembled her? No. I think they were a great compliment. But it was a great comp. At the time, I really picked my spirits up. Okay, maybe I'll watch it in bed tonight.

I'm not really drinking right now, so I think I'm going to. Yeah, you should. Lay in Bad, Smoke a Join, and Watch Girl Interrupted. Honestly, you should. It's a really, it's a really good movie. What else? Moonrise Kingdom. Have you seen?

Have I seen? So good. What's it about? It's like I can't even explain it to you. You just have to watch it. Moonrise Kingdom. Why does it sound so familiar? West Anderson.

Yeah. Oh, no, I have not seen that. So good. I've seen Moonlight. I haven't seen that. It's great. Budapest, Grand Budapest Hotel. Haven't seen that.

Another West Inerson. I really got into that. Maybe I haven't seen West Anderson stuff is what I'm thinking. You should, you should. Because it's really nice to look at. Okay. It's awesome. It's like kind of strange.

Like it's whimsical as fuck. You know what I also recently saw that I was like, I really, really, really, really, really enjoyed this was train dreams. Oh, okay. I've been actually wanting to watch it. It takes it. Not again.

No, this happens. What is this? It's my fake doctorate. No, no, no, no. Oh, and the fake plant. It's okay. You handle that. that gracefully.

That fly said. You handled that really? You handled that. Moving on for movies. Should we get into the tell me what's wrongs? Wait, yes, but before we do that, you need to go watch Hoppers. Hoppers? Oh, I've heard.

Hoppers is amazing. Wait, I've heard of this. What is this? Animated movie. You need to watch it. It's awesome. What's it about? Like the environment.

It sounds kind of... Like animals. Right. Like the environment, but honestly, like I don't even, like, it's kind of like Avatar. Like, it's kind of like Avatar, but Pixar about the environment. It's awesome. Yes. It's awesome.

Sold. It's like the first Pixar movie in a while that I was like, this was brilliantly done. Merrill Streep is voicing an act. She is? Yes. She's wasting a character. I might be wrong, but I don't think I'm wrong. You're not.

No. Right? You're not. Merrill Streep, the Franco. Whistling a character? Oh, love me, Franco. Yes. Amazing. Go watch it. It's honestly funny. I giggled. I laughed. I almost cried. The animals. Animation is so cute. It has everything. Okay. I'm going to try to convince my friends instead of going out tonight and we should go back to her house. Get high and watch Hoppers.

I think you should go. See it in theater. I don't know if it's on streaming. It's not. Not yet. You have to go to the theater. You are a little cinefile. He said, it's not. Do you have a letterbox? No, I don't. I actually do. I lied. And you know what?

Keep that shit close to you. I actually. Keep that shit close to you. I actually do have a letterbox, but do I really like, I mean, I haven't logged like the last 15 movies. I don't log anymore. I used to and then I stopped. Yeah, I did like three movies and I was like, oh my God. And I wrote like an essay for each one that I forgot.

Right. You were well-versed in movies. I've been trying to. Okay. Do you know about the Tommy What's Wrongs? Yes. Also, we do have to face-time Emily and say hi to her. Yes, we do.

Because I love her down. No, she would not, she would not forgive me if I didn't do that. It makes me really happy that you guys are still really close because that moment at the end of Dream Academy when you go in. We're extremely close. And comfort her was like really something special. One thing the show gave me is friends for life. Like, Laura, Megan, Emily, like this. Yeah.

Those are my girls. Truly. That's beautiful. Yeah. We are heavily involved. And it's hard to make actual friendships when you're, fighting for the same spot. Right, but

I knew that I wasn't going to make it into the group, so I was like, oh, whatever. You felt like they had their people. And I was like, this is not the place for me. But really, it was just like, you can't, like, honestly, all of us were so different, so it's like you can't compare each other.

Yeah. And we only had each other. Like, the girls had to stay tight. Because we couldn't tell anybody about anything. Right. You guys got in so much trouble that one episode. Yeah, for the Finstas. I was like, really?

Really? They came in, we have never seen anything like this before. I thought somebody brought a gun into the dance studio. Like, I was literally like, what could have possibly happened? And it's a Finsta. Like, who cares? Like, we know what, like, what are you talking? Whatever.

I'm not going to get mad at this. But we got two weeks off, so. Oh. And the girls were so shook. They were like, oh my God, like. And I was like, girl, you think we just spent a year. and a half training like you think that they're gonna what fire all of us and rehire and train for two more years yeah spend all this spend all this budget not happening i'm taking my two weeks off honey

i was like i was tanning i was like yes like oh you had a great time finstigate was great for you finstigate was awesome i broke up with my boyfriend during that time at the time like it was like i had shit to handle like i was like i have god watching that i because like for those i haven't seen like the way they set up that episode, they march into the studio. And they go, it's giving, like, I've never yelled at a girl like this in my life. Like, I was literally like, you would think somebody like died. Somebody died. You would think somebody died.

And it was us posting on close friends. And like, God forbid. I have some trauma to share with my friends over here, okay? It was almost like they didn't. It was like they didn't want you like interacting or like finding. It was weird. It was weird. They were just scared that like people were going to,

how, like, hack us and, like, find out information about the project and whatever, which, like, yes, like, did we break the NDA? Yes, like, yes, like, like, we did break the NDA. The NDAs are so this and that these days. They're a suggestion. They're a suggestion, really. In the day of the internet, NDAs feel like a suggestion. Just getting to all the brands that I've worked with and then I had to sign NDAs with,

they're not a suggestion. I follow them wholeheartedly. Right. Okay, let's do this. Yeah. Do you know about these? Yes. Okay.

My best friend met this man abroad, and after only a month of knowing him and being back in the States, he's moving here and they're getting married. Oh, come on. Like, girl is engaged currently one month. I want to be a good friend and support her because I get it. The man is hot. But I also know from experience, it's a bad idea no matter how you shake it. What do I do? You shake it.

You shake her. Yeah. You shake her and be like, wake up. He's trying to get a green card. Oh, my God. So true. Yeah. He's trying to get a green card.

I can't believe that I didn't think of that. I'm trying to get a green card. Oh my God. Oh, my God. Yes. Girl, run. He's trying to get a green card. It sounds like the beginning of like a investigation discovery doc.

You need to be a good friend and you need to be like absolutely not. You need to have like an intervention set with her family. Like it needs to be like hella serious. I think some like that is a situation that calls for intervention. Like you're in psychosis. Intervention. You're in psychosis. Like we like I don't like I don't like.

You got it. Like, this has got to end now. I've had friends that get matching tattoos with their boyfriends after two weeks. And already, I'm like, it's almost intervention time. Oh, that's me. That's me. I made TikTok edits to my situation shift last night. TikTok edits.

It was about you. You made them? Wait, yeah, where's my phone? I'll show it to you. I'll show it to you. It is so bad. You are an insane person. I'm really, I'm enjoying.

it here. No. I'm enjoying my time. That's insane though. But like, yeah, I mean it's- It's intervention. Listen, does it harm anybody? No. But her situation is harmful. She needs to get out. But now.

Right now. Watch like an episode of intervention. That's what I prescribe and like sit her down. Or like show her like a scary investigation discovery show. There's like plenty of that. I feel as though you're right. I feel as though you're right. That's what I would do.

And if she's like, I can't see it, I can't see it. I'm prescribing. I've never yelled at a girl like this. Yeah, that, that episode of America's Nextop Model. Yes. I've been dating a man who is, who is an identical twin for about eight months, and now my sister has been getting really close with my boyfriend's brother. I was a little weirded out by this, but obviously it's fine.

But now she is also beginning to dress a little like me. Should I sound the alarms is she trying to copy my? life it's honestly a little creepy sound the alarms i'm always about sounding the alarms you guys need to speak up yeah you guys need to sound the alarms every time please please that's scary that's giving a single white female don't know what that is okay it's a movie like that exactly that situation so that's your prescription yeah that's our prescription that's our prescription well i think also um i think it's fine i've had to like talk to friends before where you're like hey like like Love you, sis, right?

This is freaking me out a little bit. Really? You've had people like copy your stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And how do they take it when you have those? I've never met someone that's been able to have a conversation like that. How do they take it?

Well, the thing is, like, here's the thing. It's a really hard conversation to have and to lead because, like, you don't invent things, but you do invent, like, the mixture of things, right? It's like, okay, like, I didn't invent dressing like this and like, like, I met this person, but, like, dressing like that and, like, dating this person, that's, like, my combo. And you're, like, drinking my smoothie a little bit too much. Like, like, you're like, are you know, do you, and I think a lot of the times you won't get what you want from that conversation because that person is not going to go, oh, yeah, I've been copying you. But at least you got it out. But you got it out and they know that you see it.

And so they're being clocked and that they know. You need to just like kind of assert your your dominance a little bit. Oh, I love that. I think I needed to hear that, honestly. You need to go a little bit like, uh-huh. This is who I am. Like a little like, yeah. This is it.

Yeah. Like I see you these. These see you. Yeah. And they're here. Eyes. Eyes. Eyes.

Eyes. Another set. Another set. Spiritual. Wow. Good for you. Thanks. Good for you.

And good for you because you need to do that sister. Yeah. have to do that. They won't stop. There's this random Twitter account that has been tormenting me in my friend group for the better half of a year. Like just some random account commenting nasty shit on all of our posts, block them. Fast forward to last week, I'm cleaning my apartment and wanted to help my roommate out. So I went into her room to take out her trash and saw that account logged in on her laptop. Where do you find these people?

Guys! I just went through them last night. Oh, my God! Sickening. Yes, that's giving Catfish the documentary. That's been gossip girl. Wow. Well, obviously.

Oh, you better come up with the nastiest confrontation of your life. You need to like, this is the time to be petty. Yeah, hold it to yourself. Come up with a very clever way. Tell all your friends in secret. But you need to like record proof. Yeah. I really hope you recorded proof.

Yes, because this person is going to lie. Be like what? That's not true. I was just on their account. BAM. So record everything. You need receipts. What I would be doing is like something real nasty.

I'd be like, let's have a movie night. And we all watch a movie and then like airplay the movie. And then it's like that. Oh my God. You're so much better at this shit than I am. Like I would just be like, I think immediately as I would see that, I would be like, what the fuck? And I would just like whatever.

That's crazy. But that's so much better. No, I mean, but that's some real nasty petty shit. I think she deserves it though if she's been calm if she's been tormenting you really for that's that's psycho that's psycho shit that's insane that's psycho shit that's like no empathy she needs evaluation no you need to extract those people out of your life immediately but yeah it's not great that's crazy that's what i would do that's my prescription be nasty and petty being like really put your heads together and be like how can we get this bitch and you really need to like you really need to

like bulletproof receipts. And I don't think you should show them. Like, I think the accusation needs to come first. You need to give her a chance to like. Oh, I have so many prescriptions for this. I'm like so ready to just go for it. Do it. Salt Lake City, Monica,

Reality Von T's season. You have to watch that episode. Have you ever seen Real House of Salt Lake City? No. Okay. So basically, there is a character There was a character

Sometimes it's hard in reality television It's very because people view you as a character And like it's See? Yes See? Yes But you're not, you're a person

So there's a housewife named Monica And she ran a smear account Or she ran a gossip account called Reality Von Tice That tormented the girls Like in earlier seasons And in the five full body chills In the final episode of the season

They Have you ever heard Receipts, proof, timeline. Yes, yes. That's where that's from. Wow. And they all sit her down at dinner and they're like, we have everything. We have your perfect formula.

Receipts, proof, timeline, screenshots, fucking everything to prove that you are a liar and da-da-da-da-da. So I would prescribe that. Then I would also prescribe like that song. What's that Cardi B song? Pretty and I'm petty as fuck. Well, you would play it as they're like, as there could. confronting her about it. And then to make yourself...

You have a soundtrack for it? And then to make yourself feel better at the end of the day. Like, you know, like, listen to Mean Girls by Cat's side, because God bless him. God bless them. God bless the mean girls. God bless the sweet girls. And yes, God bless even the mean girls. Because at the end of the day, God bless them.

But before you bless them, you have to get a little nasty. I prescribe, God, I don't have like a... Those all just came to me in like a real... Like a real, like... Rush. I think I prescribe the nastiest, filthiest reading. You also need to call out her fucking stupidity to be logged into the account. Right.

Like, you are stupid. If you're going to be mean, you can be stupid, huh? Uh-huh. That's like what, like... Right. Right, right. So, like, the fact that you were both is crazy. Like, you should feel like a fool.

You're mean and stupid and an idiot? Yeah, you're a fool. You are a fool. Yeah, a fool is such a nasty, nasty. If someone sat there and said, you are a fool. You are a damn fool. You're like, I am. I'm prescribing you a damn fool.

But can I say please, like, follow up with code word Adela and tell us what happened, because I know. need to know. Just say this is from the Adela episode. Like, please, I need to know. And don't lie. Don't get up on the internet and lie and say that this was you. I would love to know.

I need to know what happened. This is kind of upsetting because you get into these situations. You never get the result. Sometimes I do. But in this case, I really, yeah, sometimes they'll come back. Like, they'll, like, at a live show. They'll be like, that was me that submitted that. And this is, yeah, it's really full circle.

It's really awesome. Wow, that's awesome. That's epic. Like when I was doing, I did a, like, a Broadway show for three weeks. And like when I, I would sign playbills during stage door. They would tell you. And this girl was like, you called me during the Glenn Powell episode two years ago. And I was supposed to give you a birth chart reading.

Here's your birth chart reading. And like, that's those moments that I'm like, life is really beautiful. Wow. Yeah. Impact. Your impact. Oh. Our impact.

Our impact. My psychotic ex broke no contact to tell me his dog died. I do not want to speak to this. again, but I also love that dog. I also love that dog as my own. They're doing a sort of ceremony for the dog on the weekend, and he invited me. He was genuinely the worst. And I'm

worried if I go, it's a surrender to no contact, and they do not want to do that. But I feel heartless otherwise. What do I do? You honor that dog in your own way. I say fuck the dog. Really? Mm. No. No, but that dog, but you can look at

old photo. You can have your own ceremony. You don't need to have a ceremony with your axe. Here's my thing. If you go to the ceremony and then you still keep ignoring him and like don't go fuck about him, I think that's worse. Somebody once told me one thing that's worse than hate is apathy, not caring about him at all. Like the fact that if you don't show up, you might seem a little bit bothered still.

Okay. If you show up and you do not give a fuck and then you just. leave and still don't talk to him ever again. Sis. Show up in all black. Show up in all black. Yeah. Dress down for the dog's funeral. I have the like little net.

Shades are. Shades. This dog meant so much to me. Where the like Ariana Grande mini dress that she wore to Aretha Franklin's funeral. Uh-huh. Yeah. My girlfriend never wants to go out like ever. This was one of the things I liked about her when we started dating.

But now almost four years later we're in New York starting a new chapter. And I'd really like to get out there. and have new experiences. She genuinely won't budge and is super passive aggressive if I go out anyways. That's the issue. We just got an apartment together

so don't tell me to break up. Sorry. Oh, she said, don't tell me. I mean, I gotta say, I don't like going out either. So I guess I would be the girlfriend in question. So. I'm not in my going out era either.

Yeah, so. Well, I think maybe just like find a way to make her enjoy it for me personally i don't like going out when it's with people that i don't enjoy so you need to maybe like really like introduce her to some really nice people and like really like make sure that there are people that she would fuck with and then you can be like way like they're going out to bar like you know the people that you like right maybe like maybe this isn't black and white and it's not like she doesn't like going out i like going out maybe it's i going out, I'm with people that she doesn't fuck with.

Yes. Do I fuck with these people? Yes. Do we have the same values? Yes. What's going on here, really? If you value your girlfriend, you're going to listen to it. But also, like, we don't know her.

So she might just really not like leaving her house for some reason. This person said that that's what they liked about their girlfriend at first. So something obviously shifted. And it's strange that it shifted when they moved to New York, the city of going out. When I go out, I go to New York. But you like this. about her in the first place. I mean,

girl, these are the cars that you've been dealt with from the start. She was real with you from the start, I gotta say. Maybe the issue was you.

Oh, they liked that she wouldn't go out. She doesn't like going out. Oh. I read it wrong. Yeah. Maybe you're the issue. Maybe you've changed.

Maybe you've changed. And then it's like, okay, well, does she have to change with you? Or, sorry to your new apartment. Do you guys have to break up?

I know. That's what they said for us not to say. But if they're, if you're telling me, don't say breakup. That means people in their life are saying break up. And the people in your life know you better than me and Jake. Exactly. At the end of the day, we're telling you to break up, the people in your, sorry, sis. You shouldn't have gotten that apartment.

I agree. How long has it been, he said? Four years. Long, long. I need some advice on how to be more punctual. Oh, I feel like you will be, I feel like you are very punctual. No. What?

Oh, wrong. Wow, you're giving punctual. I am giving that, but to some things I am punctual. Like, if there's a meeting, I'm punctual, but if I know that I have a session and we have like a full day, I will be possibly 15 to 30 minutes late. Oh, that is punctual still. In L.A. Yes.

15 minutes late. Traffic. Things are weird. There's a, restaurants give you a. 15 minute grace period for a reason. Okay, thanks. So maybe I am punctual. You are punctual.

Yeah. I need some advice on how to be more punctual. I love my job, but I can't seem to ever be on time. I just can't seem to wake up earlier than I already do. And even when I do get up earlier, I somehow still manage to run late because I'm so scatterbrained. I would love any advice on how to fix this because I really don't want to ruin my relationships or job over it.

See, this is the thing that I wouldn't be late for, like, rehearsal when it's like timed, like or like a performance like he needs to be on time i need consequences there's yes there needs to be consequences for you i fear yeah maybe maybe like sis like i don't know like what are you scatterbrained about like what is what is avoiding something like maybe i don't know lay out your outfit the night before i don't like for me it's like the one thing i'm always on time to is like like i have like a workout every morning that I'm like I know I'll get yelled at if I'm late because other people are ahead of me yeah so I started to think like like these people would like if I was 10 minutes late

like I'm like oh wait like this person like if I'm doing an 8 a.m workout this person got up early and they made it there so why shouldn't I be able to make it there and the thing is like if it's your job too it's like all of your colleagues are doing that you can't be the only one you kind of just have to do it. You kind of just... It's ripping a bandit off. It's your only job. It's like, you need to just go, honey.

Like, figure it out. I say, find it. I would say, last some music in the morning. Put on, just put on your fucking clothes. Yeah, like... Put on your clothes and leave. You cannot...

Well, honestly, sometimes music makes me... Oh, really? Distracted. Distracted. Yeah. And, like, everything takes a little bit longer. So honestly, remove everything that you're distracted by. Layah, like, literally pick it off a thing.

the night before. Get your bag set up. You wake up, you brush your teeth, you put the outfit that you picked out, you take your bag and you just go, honey. But also maybe just try to wake up a little earlier. Just open your eyes and get up, get out of bed. Just go.

Just go. Just go. Just go. Set, like, do you have an iPad? Like, maybe one alarm on your phone, one alarm on your iPad. Like, you have to get up, you have to get out of bed to get your alarm. Have you ever heard the song, Jump by Blackpink?

Yes. Wake up to jump. Wake up to jump. Yeah, I think that would get me out of bed. I used to wake up to Be All right by Ariana Grande for like three years straight. God, at the end of the day, it's Ari forever. Are you excited for the Eternal Sunshine Tour? Am I excited?

Oh, my God. I said clear the space. I said, you don't understand. I mean, I don't have my tickets yet, but. Neither do I, but I'll figure it out. But I'll figure it out because I was like, I'm not going to win that to Camashtra War. Like, it's just not happening. I really am like

I've been to every single one of her tours that she's ever done. I'm like, this is it for me. I am going to cry. Although I am interested in seeing what it's going to be like, like seeing Seven Rings performed. I think it's going to open with intro under the world extended.

Okay. And then what? And then that's, and then like that sets us up for like. Yeah, like. And then I said for me, when we can't be friends comes on, And I don't even care if that's basic, if that's the choice, like, clear the space.

Clear the area. Like, I need my moment. That was, like, me and Louise's album, Eternal Sunshine, like, front to back. It's going to be monumental. I also am, like, I really am interested, because Eternal Sunshine, she's in her era. Okay, well, those were it for the, Tell Me What's Wrong. Okay, yay. Well, Adela.

There's a lot of wrong with these people. Yeah, somewhat. What did we learn today? We learned that Hoppers is a great movie Lubiton should be dusted up Lubiton should be red bottoms should be dusted up

What else? Don't be ashamed of your dreams Do you not be ashamed of your dreams And yeah Just follow your dreams Follow your dreams, guys Therapists Adela, I love you so much.

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