Therapuss with Jake Shane - Session 121: Myha'la

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

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Okay? I've been industry hive since 2020 when the show first came out. It is like my, and I will never let anyone forget it. But Louise, who refuses to be on camera, right? Hi. I'm not keeping her. She just said she would do it only if she's not on camera. But she is like the only other person besides our friend Rebecca that watches industry the way we do.

And it is the best show of all time. You think of all time? Of all time. What do you love about it? It just has everything that you could ever want in a show. It has romance. It has sex. It has drugs.

It has high anxiety, high pressure. I think what we love about it so much is that the character arcs are so well thought out. It reminds me of dark on Netflix in the sense that like I don't know how we got from point A to point B, but it was done correctly. because you can look back at point A and understand how we got to point B. Yes. Do you know what I mean? It's like where Yaz is right now,

you're like, if you saw Yaz season one, you'd be, and I said to you, where she ends up in season four, you'd be like, in what fucking world? But also, like, yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense because they do it so well. Yes. Favorite episode?

You know mine. My favorite episode is the finale of season three. Yep, I was about, okay. I was going to say a different one. That is my favorite. When her and Yaz and Rob, no spoilers, but. Oh, if you're going to watch these two episodes, just prepare for spoilers, it's industry week. We will be talking everything.

And also, why would you not watch this show? Like, but the end of that episode, I cry. I'm so overwhelmed with emotion. Because you understand why Yaz chose Kit Harington. To stay. Yes. I really hope Rob comes back for season five. I do. I loki think he will.

I do too. I like totally get the vibe that he has to. And also one. In some, oh my God, when he enters the screen. Okay, go, go. One other thing about industry is obviously I have no idea what's actually going on. In finance terms? Yes.

Yeah, obviously. But my holla says, she's like, I also have no idea. And it doesn't matter. Yeah. That's why you know it's so good. Yeah, I have no idea. But I just know based on her delivery, whether it's a good or a bad thing. Can we also talk about them as actresses, like seeing them.

in these episodes was so amazing. They're the coolest people in the world. You're the coolest people in the world. And then you meet them in person. You're like, wait, you're even cooler. Uh, this was a, it was a good week. Industry week. Yeah, industry is the best show on television, period.

And I'm so jealous of those that get to binge it. Louise has seen it twice, the whole thing. I have seen the first three seasons three times. How? What? A third? Mm-hmm. My Hala is a gift.

Marisa is a gift. gift. The show is a gift. If you have not watched industry, please watch it and enjoy tonight's episode. As always, to leave it, tell me what's wrong. Go to pass that puss.com. Click tell me what's wrong and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Love you pussies. Realizing I haven't done that all season. All right. Well, love you pussies. Enjoy the episode. Welcome to Purpose. I'm so, I'm so happy. I'm so happy you're here. Thank you so much for having me. This feels like a long time coming. It does. I mean, I remember running up to you at an event three years ago saying that industry was my favorite show. Yes, I remember. That was so sweet.

It is my favorite show on television because it's objectively the best. Thank you. It really is. I agree. Like, it really is. Like, where else are you going to get characters like that? They're hard to come by, I will say, which has been like the greatest gift to be on a long running show and to still say eight years in, like I'm so passionate about these. Yeah, we started shooting in 2019. Holy shit. And when it's all said and done, it will be a decade. Wow.

And it's so funny. I was watching, I was finishing season four the other day. It's one of those where I do have to binge it because I can't wait week by week. I can't do it. It is too fucking stressful. I don't blame you. I think a lot of people feel that way. If I was just watching the show, I would feel the same way.

Like, there is something ingrained in my memory is Harper chewing her gum. Oh, yeah. Season one. And they just bleeding. I will never forget. I don't even, mind you, I don't even know what the fuck is going on. No, neither do I. What do I mean?

I don't even know either. Yeah, I read that you were like, I ask if it's a good financial thing or a bad thing and I run with it. 100%. 100%. I'm like, I have no idea what is going on financial. but I just know by the way you're playing it, if this is a risky situation or not. 100%. I think that's my job.

As long as people think that I know what I'm doing. I do. Okay, great. I do. I was like, oh, she doesn't know? Great. I don't know either. I'm giving everyone permission to be like the finance, whatever.

As long as you're sweating and crying and yearning and lusting, then we've done our job. You, it is really, you have done such an incredible job. I am low-key. like, I feel like a groupie of yours. I watch everything you're in. Bodies, bodies, bodies, leave the world behind. Thank you so much. You're incredible.

And I'm just like so happy that you get to play these like incredibly complex characters. Thank you so much. I mean, that's like, that's my thing. I don't want to do anything idealistic or simple or whatever. Like I am deeply, deeply invested in humanity. I think people are so interested. There's nothing more interesting to me than like a messed up person. Yeah.

I want to know what makes them tick. I want to know why they got messed up. I think probably on a level because I want to know why I'm messed up. You know what I mean? It's as much about, it's really, really cathartic. There's also some stuff that, like, I get to do that I would never do in my real life. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

I would never move the way Harper Mooshy is cuckoo. She's cuckoo. She's cuckoo. She's cuckoo. But you kind of see. See, at the end of season four, for the first time in the entire show, her morality, like, coming out. Yeah, totally.

And being like, I mean, that fucking final shot of them being like, do you want one more? It's so fucking sickening. Like, because you're just like, you know, you, because you knew, like, watching it, you're like, one more season, like, one more round for Harper. Like, let's fucking go. I'm so glad you're excited. When we're shooting that, actually, it was so funny because the first couple of couple of takes.

They were like, okay, Mahala, we're just on your face, so you're going to, like, give her a look. And the first time I was like this, I was like, you know I want more. They were like, okay, maybe a little more subtle, like calm down a little bit, but I was like, I want more. Every season, I was talking to Marisa about this yesterday. I was saying, I feel like the official industry podcast at this point. But you, they, Mickey and Conrad, they planned it as if it's their last. Right? Always. Yeah. I mean, I think that's smart because the truth of this whole business is you really don't know if you're going to go again.

Right. They might put you in contract for the three, five, seven. But I think how it's been, at least my experience has been there, it's never guaranteed until they see some more scripts and they feel excited about where they want to go next, that they get a green light. And then we all are like, okay, we're going again. But it's really always a question mark. So I think. writing as if it is the end is totally smart and then it gives you a serious challenge to write yourself out of it and i think mickey and conrad do a really really good job of that every every year and they're ex-bankers right yeah yeah i think mickey did like five years and conrad did three and then did they meet like via banking and then just like come up with this idea they met in school got they met in in university um and i they were they were like a sort of creative pair for a long time. I think they were making shorts and they were shooting their own stuff.

I think maybe Mickey got involved first and then and then they both came up with the idea that inspired industry. They did something quite similar and then they were like, oh, this is, this is the story we want to explore. Yasmin and Harper's relationship at this point is like, you're, I don't even know what the fuck is going on with them, but it's like, it's the only love, like they love each other down. Yeah.

But like where in an ideal world for you, like where do you want to see them end up? I think sentimentally, obviously, I would love if they were like, we are sisters. And they got it together. Do you know what I mean? Like they have had so many like moments of vulnerability and connection, especially in this, like that that bar scene in episode seven before the club. That's going to go down in history. Thank you. I mean, it was a, that was sort of like an accumulative final straw.

We have nothing else to do, but absolutely be totally honest. No, ulterior motive, nothing. It was pure, pure love. And then it sort of all goes to shit. But I think about them as sisters. Yeah. I don't know any other relationship besides sibling one where you could really say, like, the meanest fucking thing.

I want to hurt you so badly. and the next week they're like, hey. They've hit each other before, right? Yeah, we slapped the shit out of each other. Yeah, we did. You did. Like, and it's gotten to the point where it's like, you're like, nothing is surprising with the two of them.

It's true. You're like, like, I can't even, I don't even, like, trying to collect my thoughts, but there's like so many, like, you're basically, like, the entire season, for those that don't know, Harper was betting all. on the demise of Yasmin's husband's company. And when Yasmin finds out, like, you kind of do it and you kind of like,

you kind of like make eye contact like, I told you. The name of the game. Yeah. And even, I mean, I think another like signal that there is real love there is for the first time Harper tries to warn her. Like she really tries to warn her. Yes. Yes.

I was shocked when she did that. I was shocked. Like you brought her. You were like, look, I'm shorting the company. There's some shit going on. And I was like, oh, because in my mind, I'm like, that fucks with Harper's game. It does.

Because she can go and fucking fidget and figure things out and fuck up her short. Yeah. And like, sound like a finance guy. But like, really, I was shocked when Harper did that. Yeah, I think this whole season has been a big, was a big challenge for Harper because where she's always been business minded, she truly does try to protect the people that she cares about. I mean, even deciding to work with Eric, I mean, that is risky. Like, that is also another really sorted, complicated relationship built on a lot of trauma. And she goes into it with a more open heart than you might expect of her.

I was shocked. Yeah. Harper shocked me. Harper shocked me, too. I was, but this was, like, sort of the only way we could go with her because we've seen her be, shark, steely, been conniving, and completely self-serving in terms of business. And this was the first season where I thought, well, I mean, we could do the same thing, but that's not true to humane.

Like, we all evolve. We all grow. Right. And I think the question is, once you have everything you've always dreamed of that you've worked so hard towards, which is what she's got. She's her own boss. She has employees. She's got agencies.

Her reputation on the street as a market mover is solid. now what? Like you can make money and make money and make money now what? And especially by the end of the season, she has all those things and she's no one to share them with. She's lost her whole family. Her brother, her

mother, her dad has never been in the picture. She loses Eric. She loses Quabana and sort of then sweet pee. That relationship is tainted. And now she loses Yasmin, her last ship. That's it. She's totally a

alone in this world. And she has all this money, but who cares, you know? Right. She's so lonely at the end of it. Yeah, she's completely alone. And I love that you bring up that final image because I think that question, are you done? Have you had enough? She's really asking herself, have I?

And she also happens to be on a PJ. So like, maybe she hasn't, honey. Maybe not. Maybe not. But that final episode was just like so gutting. What was your, like, big reaction when you, like, got the script? Well, look, I mean, it's, it's not that it's not totally depressing. It's horrendous.

Yeah. It's also, like, you can see this, you can see the steps. You see exactly how we got here. Hurt people, hurt people, you know? It's heartbreaking. And I think as Harper, like, playing it, there was because of all of this loss. It was just so much shock. I think, you know, when you're like running on E, you haven't slept, you haven't eaten,

something tragic has happened to you, and you really feel like you're at the bottom of the barrel, and then one more thing happens. Yeah. And you just, you don't even have the energy to be devastated. You go into that sort of like comatose. Yeah. And you see, I mean, you see her right after that conversation. She's just in the bed.

Like, if we had eight more episodes, she'd be there in the bed. Yeah. Depressed. Just being like what the fuck now. No shableness. where none of it. Yeah, so I was really looking forward to exploring what that sort of void feels like and what does a person do to try to soothe themselves.

And it was, I think one of the most challenging parts was justifying, finding the love in her still choosing Quabana after. All of that because she says in that scene after that, like, they have a moment of connection. Right. Despite him coming back and saying, I just cheated on you again. And I don't think you want this. It's like, girl, why would I want this?

You keep fucking with me. But it's like, she's desperate. Is that relationship even like, he's like, he's almost like begging you to be like, don't do this and you won't. You're like, okay. Well, there's so much, so much humiliation. Yeah. Like the amount of energy that it takes her in that moment to be like, to be honest at all,

to be like, how do you expect me to function with you? Right. You know, takes so much guts. It's also totally not the Harper we know. The Harper we know would be like, fuck you. You know what I mean? She would start another fight. She would get mad.

She would probably do something to him, fire him. I don't know. Yeah. But she doesn't. And that's like one of the beauties of being on like a long running. thing doing TV in general is you really get to evolve a person. You get to explore how time, space, relationships, the world affects them. And you get to explore who they want to be, who they want to be. Right. Because I think, I mean, like, I'm, I'm, I'm asking myself this question every day and I'm,

making new decisions towards, like, who do I want to be today and beyond? And I think that's really cool. It's really cool. And you've like the whole, you and the whole cast have done such an excellent job within industry. Where do you see like the turning point for, like where was Harper's turning point this season? Do you think it was when Eric left? Oh boy. Ken is one of the greatest actors of all time in my personal opinion. He is, he's just really amazing. It's very easy to love him. He really does wear his heart on his sleeve. And that's, another great thing about this show is that we are following a bunch of people who make decisions that would make them seem irredeemable but they're so infused with humanness that it becomes

relatable and you want them to succeed you want them all to go to therapy and like get fixed and like have the gang back together right right into the sunset yeah get to have a beer at the pub exactly but i think um yeah that was a huge huge one for her. I think another really hardcore turning point that I think she was sort of forced into was finding out her mom died. Yeah. Because the entire first four episodes is Eric trying to convince Harper to work with him

and to create a more intimate relationship, like a sort of friendship. Right. Yeah, there was like, you know what this is. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, please, like, share your life. Like, if we're going to be. going to work together.

Like we should really, and she's like, you know, you know nothing good comes of that, considering their history. And the job is going well. But she is in so much turmoil finding out that her mother has gone. She has no one to turn to. And she is desperate just to talk to someone. And he's there and he makes himself available. And that, aside from her loving relationship,

with Yasmin, I think that's the other sort of loving relationship in Harper's life, that it is a sort of pseudo-paternal. He's also been her mentor. And he really was the one who took a chance on her. He picked her sort of out of obscurity, knowing that she didn't really have the qualifications, but believed in her. People forget that Harper came to Pierpoint, lying about her resume.

I mean, that was the whole thing about season one was that you didn't have the qualifications. Right. You were better than everyone on the floor. Per, period. But the reason she doesn't want to get into this personal relationship with him, like let's just make a business because despite him being the one who allowed her to be in that space, he's also the one who outs that. He's also the one who gets her fired.

That was crazy. The shit that's happened in the show. So much. I mean, I never thought, I remember sitting there starting season one being like, what am I about to get into? You had no idea. I had no idea. Louise has seen the show through twice. Oh, great.

I'm like, how do you sit and watch this twice? Like, it's the most stressful, but it makes, like, talking to you and Marisa has, like, made me be like, I think I want to restart it. Go for it. I feel like, honestly, especially having been a part of our family from day one. I was. I was industry high from day one.

Day one gang. I love the. Thank you. Thank you. Because I wouldn't be sat here today if it weren't for you and the rest of the people who were like die hard from day one. I'm so serious. It is, it was, it picked me up during such a dark time in my life in COVID.

Like I just remember being at my parents' house, sitting there watching it and feeling like I was part of this family. Yeah. That's what like, you guys are so good at doing. Like I felt like I was part of this family. Oh, that's amazing. I mean, we really kind of from day one, but have become a really strong family. It feels like family. And I think that chemistry, that bond, that trust.

trust that we created fills the show. Like it's that sort of unnameable chemistry-like thing, which I also think is why, like, people want Yaz and Harper together because Marisa and I are actually friends. Right. You're her bridesmaid. Yeah, yeah. We actually love each other. So even when we're fighting, it's coming, despite itself, it's coming from a place of very

deep love and appreciation. and respect and those colors, the nuance, I mean, the same with me and Ken. Like, I just have had, we have had a deep love for one another, which is why people are like, why do we want them together? Because you know it comes from love. Real love.

Yeah. And on the page, it wasn't always that. It wasn't like, oh, these people actually love each other. It was like, no, these people are stab at each other in the back. Yeah. And that's sort of the magic of, like, great teamwork and real. chemistry, which does sort of feel like lightning in a bottle. It is.

Was there like a moment this season or honestly any season where like something wasn't scripted? There definitely is some, not when we're doing any sort of businessy deal. Well, of course. Because we would all be like, the sort of nature of this entire show is Mickey and Conrad learning their actors and writing for us. I mean, there have been whole storylines that were inspired by. real life stories that actors connect to. They're really good at that.

I think that's what makes them special writers because they write, they really write for us. But there was like a couple, but specifically, and it wasn't exactly improv, but specifically the scene where Harper speaks to Eric about her mom passing. On the page, I mean, it was, I think the scene ended up being like five or six pages long, but when I got it first, it was maybe four, three or four.

And the direction was more like Harper is numb. She doesn't cry. She doesn't know how to feel. It feels quite disconnected. And I thought like if I was in her shoes and this monumental thing happened to me and I felt numb or I didn't know how to feel about it, that would confuse me so much. I would feel so lost and so alone. and the emotion would come from that. It would come from being so deeply confused and frustrated at the fact that I don't know how to feel about my own mother dying.

It's so confusing and so isolating. And then also being so far away from home, you know. I think also the fact that she feels sort of forced into this now very intimate relationship with Eric that she was trying so hard not to do. It feels like a sort of betrayal of self. So all of that is where the emotion comes from. I often cry when I'm confused and frustrated. So I just, I said to the boys, I was like, hey, I understand this version. Is there a world in which maybe we can let her be a little more childlike, a little more insecure,

and like really reveals something to him. And then it creates, and that like affected what Eric said. So then the scene became longer. I ended up writing them like this stream of consciousness thing and I just like WhatsApped it to our group chat and was like here's my thoughts when I like put myself in her shoes while I'm working on the scene here are my thoughts just here they are and then when we went to shoot like 95% of the stuff that I wrote ended up in the new scripts on the day which was amazing I was really really really grateful that they wanted to include those things. because I feel like there's so much about Harper that we don't know. We get plopped into Harper's world after she grew up, essentially. Yeah. And I feel like, I don't know why as a viewer I wasn't expecting her to care.

But like I wasn't expecting her to care that her mom died. Right. Like the Harper that I knew hates her mom. Right. And was like, it would have just been like, no. So when it went the other way And like the short was going well Everything was going well and that happened

You would think she'd be like, I can't, I can't. Yeah. And she like does and basks in that like emotion. It was very shocking as a viewer to see. Thank you, Seekek for sponsoring tonight's episode. I always talk about concerts. But tonight I wanted to highlight a specific comedian that is going on tour that you can go get tickets on Seekek for now.

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And use code therapist for 10% off. That's promo code therapist for 10% off your order on Seekek. Thank you again, Seek, for sponsoring tonight's episode. I'm always interested in the sort of unexpected turn of something. I often feel surprised by the way I respond to things, especially as I grow. I'm 30 now. You're 30?

Yes, girl, get into it. Oh, do you like it? Do you like being 30? I love being 30. Okay. Being 30 is amazing. Everyone says that. It's amazing.

How old are you? 26. Work. You're in the midst of your Saturn return. I know. I know. I'm scared. It's okay.

I'm praying for you and it's going to be fine. How was yours? She ate me up, loki. She ate me up. What was it? When did it start for you and what was it like? I'm sorry, industry hive, I need five seconds to go down this road. We're about to get into my medical history.

It probably started around 25 and it did indeed sort of start with a tummy issue. I am now. My back hurts. My back hurts. Listen, spirit moves through you in mysterious ways. Yeah, it started with tummy issues which sent me on this journey of like physical, physical health and wellness. And I, at one point, I'm not kidding,

was so frustrated that I was like, I need God. Nothing is working. None of these pills, none of these yogas. I need God. Like, I need literal religion right now. Whatever. Like, I'll do anything to fix this. And I think I just discovered that so much of the physical,

it felt very much like, emotionally and energetically, I had to deal with some things to just make room in my spirit for like the drugs to work. It's been my experience that like the mind, the spirit or the mind and the body are like intrinsically linked. And I needed to like get right with myself. I had to learn how to really love myself and like love on myself so that I could take care of my body better.

It's like such a crazy process. it feels like I really felt like I was being ripped to shreds. Oh my God. I'm sorry, sweetie. I really am. But honestly, it's worth it. And I think anything worth doing is going to be hard. Yeah.

The body needs stress to grow. That's why we work out. We break our muscles apart so they can grow bigger, stronger, shapely, whatever. So, yeah, a lot of that was about, like, learning how to set my boundaries. Like, understand what my boundaries are. What do I need? Put myself first. Set my boundaries, maintain them in a respectful way, speak my truth, and also only speak abundance

into my own life. Like deciding what it is I think I deserve and like saying it with my chest until I believe it. It was like five years of like, I don't actually believe it, but I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. I'm just going to say it until it becomes true. And I turned 30 and now it's true. And what, like, did you used to have like negative self-talk?

Absolutely. I mean, and I still do. Don't get me wrong. Like, it's a practice, honey. Every single day I'm saying, like, I deserve this. I deserve, I deserve to love myself. I still have negative thoughts. I still have anxiety and I still have, occasionally I have imposter syndrome.

And occasionally I feel like I'm not prepared for something. But I also know that, like, the universe loves me and I wouldn't be put in the positions that I'm in if I couldn't handle it. And I have big goals and big dreams. And I have to be able to advocate myself or else I'm not going to get them. Right. So yeah, that was what that was. And my tummy is healed. Thank God.

Thank God. But really, honestly, in like a less woo-woo way, it was like learning about nutrition, learning about my circadian rhythms, and making sure that I don't over-extend myself so that I can show up to work and my life every day is like the best version of myself. Was there ever like a part of shooting industry that you felt overextended? Yeah. I mean, yeah. The first season we shot, I had only done, I'd done like one episode of television and I did an indie

feature in New York that I did like five days on. And then I landed in the UK and they were like, lead this HBO series for six months, work every day, do it well, and then like be chill about it. Like what was the audition process like for you for that? Like did you walk in being like, this is just another audition? or did you walk in being like this role is mine? So the tea about this is that when I got this audition, I was like in the midst of a crisis.

I had just lost a job that they said was mine, that I was like counting the dollars and deciding the ways in which this was going to change my life. And literally the director in the room was like, it's yours. And the next day they were like, they went another direction. Broke my heart into like a million tiny pieces. Oh my God.

It was horrible. At the time, I was bald. very androgynous didn't yeah and I was comparing myself a lot to the people who were getting the jobs I was like they're more feminine than me they wear makeup they are taller they're shorter they're darker skin they're lighter skin and I was was really like do I need to change the way I look or present myself to be palatable to people just so I get a chance and I'm really like I really wear my heart and myself on my sleeve and the idea of changing my outside

felt like a betrayal of myself. And it was just like I was crashing out and then I got the audition for industry like a week later and I was supposed to go out with my friends who we were like pre-gaming in the apartment and I was like oh fuck I have this audition will you guys tape it with me so I'm like a little tipsy

in the tape. Shut up. I have to see this tape now. No girl. That shit is buried. It's not that good but they saw something in it and they asked me to do another round of tapes with two additional scenes and in between I read two more episodes and I met with Mickey and Conrad and they gave me some thoughts and ideas. So I retaped, thank God. And a week later, they were like, they want you to meet Lena Dunham who's going to direct the pilot. So I met her in person and she was so quirky. We sat on the floor while we did the read and she was like, you'll be hearing from us very soon. Oh, that's so her. I feel like.

So her. And I walked out, I mean, I wasn't in there but like 30 minutes and I walked out and called my team and they were like what happened and I was like well we're done they said was it good and I was like I mean I think so we sat on the floor so I think that's good and then a week later they were like they want to travel you to Cardiff to test with the other actors and when I showed up it was just me there testing for Harper ever I think almost all the other roles was one person except for maybe one role there was two people but that was when I was like oh per like yeah it's just me yeah I got this If I, like, royally screw this up, okay, but if it goes well, if I do what I've been doing, I think this is mine.

Mm-hmm. And then maybe a week later, the day before my birthday, I found out I got the job. And was it like, what did you feel like knowing that you didn't have to change anything about yourself to get it? Yay! Were you like, I'm so grateful that I didn't fall into that crash out? Well, I literally was like, this, this is why you hold steadfast. Like, this is, this is why you feel so strongly about showing up as yourself, because the right

project, the right people will find you. You just have to have faith and be patient and like, hold on. So that was real confirmation that I should never like, never try to change myself to fit some version of what I think someone else wants. Also, the real gag is casting and creating. whatever, they don't want you to do a version of what they think. Right. Because oftentimes they don't even know.

Yeah, they don't. They do not know. They're looking for someone to tell them, oh, that's what I want, or that challenged the thing that I thought I want and it inspires me. So I think that's what happened. And they were like, I'm so down. So yeah, I mean, they were like, do you want to stay bald? And I was like, no, no, no.

Like, let me do a little something. Let me change for the role. But yeah, I mean, I went into that season. totally unprepared for how much responsibility it was. I was so excited. But it was so, so much that I didn't even realize I hadn't given myself an opportunity time

or space to process until literally the day we wrapped. We did like the rap party and then everyone came over to mine and we like had a sash and it was so fun. I would pay money. You, you... To sash with every single person on that cast. You should have been there. I should have been there.

They're like, oh, I'm at Pierpoint. It was so fun. We tried to get them to let us have the party on the trading floor. And they were like, oh, come on. They said no. Well, there was like millions and trillions of dollars of like Bloomberg terminals. Everything was like, I'm not letting you get fucked up on the trade floor. It's like such a risk.

But everyone was at mine. They all left at like three in the morning. And I closed the door on the last person. I turned around and sunk to my knees and wept. for I don't even know how long. I was like crawling around my apartment, crying so hard. And I finally found my phone and I called Marisa. And I was hysterical.

I don't remember what I said. I don't really remember exactly what happened. But I do know that I left my apartment. It was raining. I was crying in the rain. She found me, because we lived all in the same complex. She found me in the rain. She brought me back into my apartment.

And she, like, brushed my teeth for me and put me to sleep. and stayed in the bed with me until I, like, cried myself to sleep. She stayed with me the whole. You guys are really Yaz and Harper. Like, with less of the backstabbing. Yeah, right. No, none of that. But that's why it reads so well, because it's so real.

That love is so real. It's really real. She, like, literally held me while I cried, and, like, my body just experienced the whole six months. Because I didn't know what to do with that. You were on go mode. I was totally on go mode. Yeah.

And I finally, when my body was like, it's done you can relax now it was like yeah all of it came over me um and i released it all and i let it go wow it was crazy and then i was awoken by the driver being like come to the airport time to go to america and i was like i'm not packed i have not it was crazy i left that apartment in shambles shambles there were i mean it was disgraceful the condition i left that apartment in but it's okay you made great television out of it thank you how are you planning on saying goodbye to harper Yeah, this is a great question that I really haven't put too much thought to. I don't think I'll ever truly say a real goodbye.

She is a part of who I am and who I want to be. I think it's sort of twofold. It's like sad because our story, me and her story is ending. I'm sort of leaving her behind. But when this is done, that chapter is closed, I have a new chapter to open. Now I am literally, I'm just literally available. There's so much more work I want to do. I'm writing and I'm trying to develop a couple things for myself.

So now I'll have the time, energy, the space, the experience and the confidence to start working on those things, which I'm really excited about. Do you want, are those things more television or movie or both? I have both. I've both that I'm interested in. I'll never not do TV. Yeah, I'm a TV guy through and through. Me too.

I really am. I feel like with television, you can fall into these worlds so much more intensely. Yeah. And like really become part of a family. Totally. The time, just the sheer amount of time, like it's like, depending on how many episodes you have, it's like eight movies. Right.

We have so much time to explore and go. deeper and you get to change and evolve and like Harper season one is not Harper season four and she won't be Harper season five do you know what I mean I feel like I mean I feel like season five Harper will have like I feel like she's gonna go on this like moral like trying to make up for like looking at Yaz and being like wait uh uh uh uh uh uh like how did we get here like we're not doing this she's gonna turn to Christ yeah she is literally going to turn to Christ yeah I'm I'm really excited to see where we go with with Harper with everyone with the show I mean knowing knowing that it's the last one I'm pretty sure the boys are just gonna go rip it yet they are they are they're gonna

right I mean I think yesterday we we did a panel yesterday they were talking about like from day one there was sort of a basket of things they were interested in doing and now that they know the time is nearing an end they're gonna try to get all that shit that's in the basket into season five so are you I'm excited. I like actually like I think I want to visit set one day. Oh my God, you should come. At this rate, like I think I need to come visit set. You should totally come. Mickey Conrad, please let me come visit set. Like I would. No, you're going to come.

Okay. You should totally come. Come to Cardiff. Please, I would, me and Louise would have, it would be field trip day. It would be so fun. Why not? We would love to have you. I mean, we'll be there. Yes. We have to come.

It would be so fun. It is seriously, like that show has done things for me. Like, oh, you have no idea. I'm so glad. I mean, I love hearing that because it has done so many things for me. And I feel like, I don't know if this is like a thing, but like I'm a fan. I'm a fan girl. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I love to fan over things. Yeah, I'm the biggest fan girl of all time. I'm such a fan. Yeah. And I am a fan of this show. There's so much of it that I'm not in. So like when I watch it, I'm still kind of watching it.

Oh, yeah. Like half brain is as me and I'm criticizing myself. But the other half of me is just like enjoying. my friends in the show, the story, like, I'm really invested in it. So, so hearing other people say that it's meant something to them is like, I mean, it means a world to me. It really is so incredible. Do you have like a favorite episode ever?

Ooh. I have mine. Oh, wait, what's yours? Okay. Mine's the finale of three. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I think that's one of the greatest episodes of television of all time. Of all time.

Maybe. Bar none. Hands down. Like, that episode changed. like how I view the world. Oh, just because it was so good. You know something's so good and you're just like looking at life like I'm changed.

Artistically like that's how that episode made me feel. Like I've got that episode, the one where Harper is re trading on the trading floor like like two thousand like four. Yeah. Yeah. Those two episodes I think are my favorite of industry of all time. Thank you. Yeah, I'm glad those are I mean phenomenal episodes.

I feel like episode my, my husband. is always saying to people who haven't seen the show, and it doesn't, he's not sure, like if they're not sure if it's going to be for them, he says start on episode four of season one. Really? Because that episode with that trade, the anxiety, I think kind of sets the tone for like,

oh, this show is a finance show, but it's really more like, making Conrad say it's like, how do we make a trade feel like a car chase? And that's the one that does it. I think anyone who watches and they're not sure they're locked in by episode four. Yeah.

I feel like one of my favorite episodes. Oh my God, there's actually so many. Now I'm thinking about, I think it's episode six, the Christmas episode of season one. You guys always fucking kills on Christmas episodes. The Christmas episode, is that like a thing that they say, oh, it's the Christmas episode. Yes, the Brits fucking love Christmas.

Yeah, they really do. They like love Christmas so bad. They do. Yeah, that one's great. Which one are you thinking of? Ben Lloyd Hughes, when he runs into the glass in the first season, and he, like, is banging himself into the glass. That one is really great.

There's also so much tea with, like, Robert and Yasmin and Harper in that episode. I know. We all do. Shout out Harry Lottie. We love you. Love you town. This episode of Therapus is brought to you by booking.com. Oh, Nolan just took off his headphones.

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just flows. You can really fill out your vacation on booking.com. Find exactly what you're booking for at booking.com. Booking dot yeah book today on the site or in the app. I'd never seen like bisexuality like portrayed just so casually like that. I was like it was in the midst of COVID. I was watching I was watching industry and all of this. He was like really like courting yazz and then he like got his dick sucked by this guy and I I was, and then they didn't really harp on it at all. Also, like, go off a young white man doing that. I think one of the things that making Conard are really good about that the show is good

about is like, because people are always like, isn't it a show about, like, sexuality? Is it a show about race? Is it a show about it? It's a finance show. And all of these things happen, but we're not trying to tell the audience how they should feel about it. Right. It's just like, here it is. And then you get to be like, oh, damn, I could just be by and it's not a thing.

or whatever, you know what I mean? Because they don't make it a thing. No. It's just, they lay it out and they're like, here you go. Yeah, yeah. We're not trying to, like, bully the audience into feeling like, yay, gay or not yay gay. You know?

We're just like, here's a piece of the world with no judgment. I think that is really good to be making. It's excellent. I want to shout out a specific sequence as well in episode four of season one. I love season one, apparently. Season one's great. Season one is a great season. This was really fun to shoot.

Harry and I, who plays Robert, we did, we had like 45 minutes left in a shoot day on episode four. And it was like bonkers. We have one camera. Everyone's trying to get the fuck out of here. But we need to do this sequence where Harper and Robert do drugs together. And it's a short sequence. They like get high. And we improv did the entire thing.

They like put on music and we were just like pretending to do whatever he like put on this coat. Pretended to be Elton John. We were dancing around. And the camera was just like going crazy. and it was so much fun. It was really run and gun, and we didn't know if we got anything worth its weight and salt. And it turned out to be like one of the most fun

and maybe like sort of quintessential industry sequences in the show. I loved, loved shooting that. I also loved shooting the boat stuff with Marisa in season three. That was amazing. Because I feel like I didn't know if Yas and Harper were friends at that point. Yeah. I didn't know. And then to see them together for ultimately what defines Yaz's story for the rest of the show.

It was a real moment of like genuine chosen family. 100%. I mean, it's so interesting that now sort of people are coming around to Harper having a moral center. Yeah. That right there to me was the most pure act of love. she's risking her own safety to help her friend cover up like a crime she really looks at her in the face and says

I see how badly you're hurt I will help you I will help you it's so selfless I think that's why Yaz always goes back to her 100% and that's why even when Henry is like your friend Harper like she's short sorting the company she's doing this yes is like she said don't talk about my friend like that yeah she said that hey guys that's my friend that's my friend that's my friend he's so for real that's my friend um so did you is it true you met your husband via

kind of this show yeah totally the other greatest gift of my life via this show my man um he is also an industry day oneer yes he was watching the show in covid and he sent myself and Harry and Mickey and Conrad a message just saying hey I'm watching industry I'm such a fan congratulations on the show I think it's great and it was deep COVID and I was living by myself and the show was coming out and there was like no premiere no interviews nothing I was very alone

and I was like going through my DMs obviously like starving for connection and I saw his and I was like trying to weed out the like gross one Like people being like I love the show send me a picture of your feet. Yeah. And I was like, but his wasn't really respectful. So I just said thank you.

And the next day I woke up to a string of video messages from him. And I was like, girl, what is this, bro? But I was like, let me go on his profile. I was like, wait a minute, he's kind of cute. He's really cute. I'll risk it. So I opened the messages and it was him. And he was literally filming himself.

And he was like, hey, Mahala, it's Armando. I just wanted to say it was so cool that you responded to my message. I wasn't expecting it. Again, congratulations on the show. I am in a journalism class at university at the moment. I'm just wondering, would you be willing, available, interested in doing like a five, ten minute interview with me for this project? And I was like, not a student.

Yeah, like literal student. And I was like, I can't say no to this kid who like has a class project. So I was like, yeah, sure, whatever. We hop on a Zoom the next day. We were meant to be on for 10, 15 minutes. We talked for 40 minutes. And I hung up the thing and I was like, I'm in love with a stranger.

That's weird. I just was like, whatever, right? Yeah. I couldn't stop thinking about him. Like a week later, I messaged him and was like, did you get an A on your project? I'm like a grown person being like, did you get an A?

A week later, it's crazy. I was like flirting, hard. And then we were just like in each other's DMs talking all day every day about fucking whatever. It took him three weeks to ask for my phone number. Very respectful. Very respectful. Back fall.

And then very, you know, all-a-COVID, we were doing like FaceTime dates. And we were just talking all the time. He was in San Francisco at university at the time. And I'm from San Jose originally. And so I was going to go from New York to San Jose to see my mom, like after the holidays. And I was like, yo, I'm going to be like 50 minutes south of you. Do you want to meet in person? And he said yes.

So I drove up. How nervous were you? Or were you not at all? I was really shaking to my boots. I was shaking in my boots. And all my friends were like, are you psychotic? This man might chop you into bits and we'll never hear from you again. This is just a random stranger from the internet who watched you on TV.

Are you crazy? And I was like, yes. Yeah. I got it bad. And I brought a bottle of wine and some glasses. And I remember like parking the car and he lived on a hill. And he was at the bottom. I like turned a corner and he was at the bottom.

And I saw him and I was like, he's so tall and fine thank god he's tall and i'm like going down the mountain he turns around and he sees me and i start running it was so cheesy i start running and then we hug and we were like we like took a collective breath it was so crazy we literally like and it felt so easy and so comfortable like i belonged there and both of us were sort of like wait actually this feels really normal it was like love at first sight i mean yeah completely um We sat on the roof. We had the wine.

I brought hand sanitizer because I hadn't had my COVID test results back and I didn't want to be too risky because I was staying with my mom. So we like hand sanitized and held hands. God, TPT to COVID. Yeah, literally. She, nothing was going to stop me. Not COVID. None of it.

And that was the end of it. He met my mom the next week and we have been inseparable. I mean, it'll be like five and a half years now married for a year and change. Congratulations. Thank you so much. How was the wedding? It was really sweet. It was just the two of us, his sister, his parents, and my mom.

My best friend from college married us, and we had a friend take some pictures. It was really small and intimate. That's the way to do it, though. Yeah, it was the way for us, certainly. And I think he has a huge family. And so our plan is still, I promise you, Familia is still a plan. To do a big ceremony in the Coachella Valley. He's from Indio.

do a big ceremony there so everyone can come and celebrate us and maybe do a little something in New York for our friends. But we just, we were eager to be married. And so when time and finances permit, we'll throw some parties. So we can celebrate with loved ones. But yeah. Well, what are you therapist about today? I'm therapist that it's been so fucking cold in New York and so nice here. It's crazy.

It's like the apocalypse. I can't do it. It's so bad. It was so bad. You know it's bad when you're like, I thought global warming was going to make it hot. Yeah. No, girl. It's been like the most depressed myself, my friends and family have ever been because it's been so long.

Is it still cold right now in New York? Literally my mom was like, it was raining the other day. And then it was like 80 degrees. But it keeps, it's like this. Yeah. No, you know, it's too much. Is it, are you living in New York now? Yeah, yeah.

Okay. When are you going back? Tomorrow. I go back tomorrow. What? What flight are you on? I'm on a late flight. I'm on a late flight.

Are you Delta? Yes. Are you on the 9.15? Shut up! Shut up! Wait, I'm so excited. It's going down on the plane, babe. Yeah, I'll see you in the lounge.

I'll see you in the lounge. Oh my God, wait, I'm pumped. Me too. I'm pumped. Yeah, it's going to be great. Oh, my God, how fun. Do you live there? No, I just got a place there.

I'm from there. Oh, that's right. I need a New York summer. Okay, well, so will you be there this summer? Yep. Whoa. I want to be for the streets this summer. That's like, I was telling somebody the other day, like, what my behavior?

And they were like, why are you like for the streets? And I was like. The streets deserve it. I was like, I'm having fun. They were like, you. Put some respect on the streets. Also, mind you. The streets of New York are kind of iconic.

They are. Very iconic. I'm like, I'm ready to like be outside, drinking wine on rooftop. Hell yeah. Because L.A. can be very isolated. I don't know if you've experienced it, but it can be like, I don't drive. So it's like... You don't drive in L.A.?

No, I Uber every day or I have my friends drive me. Uber, Uber, everywhere. Is it, okay, practical question. Is it like... Less expensive? Cheaper to Uber everywhere? We've done the costs. I don't think so.

But like for safe for everyone's safety and mental well-being, it's better than I Uber. Keeping you off the road. Yeah. Like I'm so addicted. to my phone. I know that. Know thyself. That's really good. You're protecting people. I am. I am. I know I would be a bad driver. My dad's like, you can't drive. I'm like, okay, like it's his one thing. I won't drive. For the streets and for the people. Yeah.

I live. Right? I love driving. I miss driving. I've never gotten to experience a moment in the car where it's just you. And you're like listening to music and you're like, I know. I've heard it's amazing. It's really nice. A moment of alone is hard to come by nowadays as well. I know. And like now you could say like, oh, do a Waymo, but they're always watching in the Waymo. A hell no. Waymo's, I just, I can't get behind it. I can't really bust me out so bad. That Scars Guard movie where he gets locked in the car? Did you see that? Yes, I did. Wait, so random. I did see that movie. It's a crazy film. Yeah. He's a great actor. Crazy film.

Oh my God. That is one of those movies where it's like, you never meet someone that's seen that movie. No. I watched it on a plane. I watched it on a plane too. I watched it on a plane too. And I remember being Like, this is weird. Fucked up. I'm, like, waiting for the plane to lock its doors and tell us all to do the macarena. Yeah. Like, fucking, it's like saw, but like the AI version. No.

No, girl. The Waymos is not for me. And you were in a movie where all the cars combusted on themselves. Yes. Leave the world behind. Which could actually very well happen. Listen, I know everyone is listening. But, like, she is upon us.

The world is Loki leaving us behind, honey. Well, that was like, that was one of those apocalypse movies where I was like, Oh my God. Ah, that could really happen. Have you seen this movie? Also, like, pieces of it is already happening. It's terrifying. It is.

It really is. No way most. No way most. All right. Do you want to get into the tell me what's wrongs? Yeah, please. When I get drunk, I trauma dump. It's literally so embarrassing and gives me crazy anxiety the next day I do this too.

I did this to Marisa. She was like, I saw her up. She loved it. Yeah, I saw her up Vanity Fair. She's like, do you remember you to? I said, mm-mm-mm-mm. Oh, my God. Like one time I looked.

literally told my crush who I had only met two times about my parents' divorce, that's fine. And my daddy issues and my trauma. Nobody gives a fuck knowing that about me. And I don't want them to know either help. Well, I would disagree with nobody gives a fuck. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree. Also, like, drunk or not, like, good for you for being vulnerable. I agree. Go ahead. And if somebody thinks you oversharing is weird, I think they're weird. And they're not your person. Exactly. To be a friend, to be a lover, anything. I agree. I love trauma dumping. I do. I just,

I love, like, being vulnerable and, like, telling people, I have really bad OCD. So, like, if I can show you all sides of me immediately and you can see it, then we can move forward in whatever relationship we find ourselves. I can't lie. I'm a really bad liar. Yeah, me too. Great actor, bad liar. Yeah.

I mean, it's just, I feel so guilty lying. It's like a guilt thing. I like, so, but that, like, manifests in me, like, trauma dumping and oversharing. Ah, I see. I see. Yeah, I feel like know the space you're in because sometimes it could be kind of dangerous.

Right. You can't be too trusting. But I think if you're like, oh, I talked to my parents. Isn't everyone's parents divorced? That's what I'm saying. You don't what I mean? It's not like real trauma.

I mean, it's real trauma, but like, sorry. It's like, it's like you can talk about your parents divorce when you're drunk and not feel anxiety. I've done far worse. We all have. that I don't remember at all. Yeah, same.

At all. Like, I've had, like, yes. You're validated and it's okay. You're going to be fine, sweetie. My partner's mom followed his most recent ex after we've been dating for four years. Oh, I would. This at first was just really weird,

but not a big deal. Flash forward a couple months, and now she's been regularly going on coffee dates and even going out with his ex. The reason I'm writing in today is because last week she invited her over to our family brunch. How do we deal with this? What the hell is wrong with her?

Sorry, but like, that's evil. That is psychotic. That's psychotic. What is wrong with her? She also knows what she's doing. 100%. She's fucking with you. Yeah, that is fucked up.

And that's on your partner to lay a boundary. I got to say, yeah, there is, I know it's a fine line because like, that's your mommy or whatever, but like, protect your girl. I would watch. You remember that, what was that show that came out that everyone was obsessed with? The girlfriend. The girlfriend? It was the British show.

Oh. Yeah. Did they just say yeah? Yeah. I would watch the girlfriend. It ends in murder, but I would watch the girlfriend. Well, better safe than sorry. Or what is it?

Monster in law. Do you remember that movie? No, but it all sounds scary. Maws are so tricky. I get it, but also, girl, what is wrong with her? That's, I've had friends in relationships where, like, the mom has, like, done shit like that. And it's, it is all on your partner. And that is nothing to do.

with you. It is not on you. No, no, not at all. Like, you're marrying a person. I mean, you are marrying the family, but like that is on them to lay down the boundaries and be like, you're making the person that I'm going to probably marry. Very uncomfortable. Yeah, totally. And also, why are you doing this? If I was her, I'd be like, why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? Girl, leave me alone. Yeah, I agree. That's crazy. Yeah. Oh my God. I'd freak out. Probably why I'm still single. I think I'm incredibly influenced emotionally by the weather. Yes. Me too. I am too.

It was raining the other day. My whole body hurt. I shut down. I smoked alone. I was like, I'm done. I live in Vancouver and I'm genuinely starting to notice my depression might just be from how it's always raining. The thing is, all my family and friends and life are here.

So if I wanted to move, I need to start it new. Is this an overreaction? I've heard this is a thing. I don't think that's an overreaction at all. You're just trying to figure out why you're so depressed. seasonally affected disorder is a real thing. The lack of vitamin D in the brain can also, like, trigger serotonin some shit. Really?

Yes, yes, yes. Literally everybody, especially people who live inside a studio, are vitamin D deficient, and it is like a big, has a big effect on the mood and how the brain works. Okay, my dad always tries to get me to take vitamin D every morning. If you're sad, take it. I never listen to him. I feel like I should. No, no.

dude take it take it vitamin d with vitamin k3 i think is the way like they need you need both your body needs both to vitamin d and vitamin k3 yeah i'm pretty sure that's what it i'm not a doctor but like that's the one that i take to make it absorbable and i take like 10 000 units a day yeah which is a shit ton but um i would say look into some of those like seasonally affected disorder like things maybe start with vitamin d my mom also got me on a um light therapy which is like a, it could be an LED light, but it's like certain UV whatever's that you turn it on first thing in the morning

where you know when they say like, go outside and touch grass and like look at the sun. Yes. But what the light does in your eyes to your like circadian rhythms is like a real thing. So like that light therapy, like 20 minutes first thing in the morning

can really help set the tone in your mood for the day. I would also say exercise. Exercise. That's what I was about to say. Moving your body like, When I'm like in the like when I'm really going through seasonal depression, which I go through every year specifically the time between New Year's and Christmas. Yeah. That is the worst time of the year.

It's a really tragic time. It's a really tragic horrible time. Where is everyone? Like I'm home with my family. I'm like I'm miserable. Yeah. It's rough. It's rough.

And you need to move your body. When I started working out for my mental health as opposed to just my physique, my physique changed. Yeah, totally. And then my whole thing changed. It was like I was working out for years with no change. And then the second I was like, well, I have to go work out or else I'm going to feel like shit for the rest of the day. Yeah. Like that's when everything changes.

Yeah. And you like your life a little like lighter and everything's a little better. And it's like. It's true. It's really true. You just got to get those endorphins going, pushing them in your brain. Also like sweating is one of the big ways that your body like flushes toxins. It gets the lymph system going.

There's so many reasons to exercise. Yeah. That is one of. those and then if none of that works move move yeah move and it's okay to move i've had friends that like have moved to the middle of nowhere knowing no one and have come out like better people for it totally it's just like didn't you move here not knowing anyone where you from elana okay originally i like had some friends but not really yeah but yeah it was awesome and i also will say I was really affected by the seasons for all of college,

all of my childhood, and then moving here, like I feel lighter. Yeah, yeah, totally. The sun is a really big deal. The sun, and you know where the sun hits the hardest? New York. Oh, well, you know what that is? It's because we collectively, as a people, suffer for months.

For months. And then the second, it's like 60 degrees shorts. We would all go to the park in high school. Literally, everyone's outside, like, I love everything. Yes. Yes. It's a collective, like, sigh. It's a myth.

The vibes in spring in New York are fucking in that. Oh, I'm so ready to fly that tomorrow. I'm like, get me on the plane. Yeah, right. We're ready. I'm ready. I'm about to, like, go, like, lay out and, like, just vibe. But yes, don't be afraid to move and move your body.

Move in all aspects. Follow your intuition as well. If you're like, I'm really feeling like this move might be good, just, you know, follow that. Yeah. Follow that. Because you really only live once. It's true. You really do whenever I'm.

I'm like, should I do this? Should I not? I'm like, well, what the fuck? What else am I going to do? Nothing? Nothing? Exactly. Crazy.

I'm slowly watching my partner turn into a conspiracy theorist. I've always loved his passion for current events and even politics, but recently, he's just been so weighed down by it, but still insist on watching and consuming every story, opinion, et cetera. Not only is this just unattractive, it makes me sad for his day-to-day well-being. How do I help him without hurting him? Oh, shit. I don't know because, like, I don't know what makes a conspiracy theorist anymore.

Yeah, actually, very good point. Do you know what I mean? Like, there's so much. That's, like, I'm reading that I was like, am I? Like, there's so much information pumped out constantly that, like, maybe you guys are just going down two different paths. It's very possible. I always say in times of conflict like this with a partner, like, and you want to bring

something up to them, which is like, like, you want to bring something up to them, which is like actually just their problem. I always say like try to reframe, always talk, like keep talking, but try to reframe it about you, like saying, I'm feeling far away from you. I feel like we maybe spend a little less time talking about our mutual interest. I just want to feel close to you.

Could we maybe spend a little more time doing this as opposed to this? Right. You know what I mean? Or like I would really like to try having like a no phone hour, maybe where we can just reconnect or make it about sex. I don't know. You know what I mean? Watch a movie together.

Yeah. Cook together. Not about like not a movie about like 9-11. Like you know what I mean? Like something else. Yeah. Try that first maybe. And like maybe maybe look at yourself and like being like am I being judgmental?

Totally. You know what I mean? Like I could totally like because like. because, like, you don't know. Everyone's, like, it's, that is so tricky. It's very hard. Maybe you should get into it. Maybe you should also become a conspiracy theorist.

And see what the vibe is. I feel like that sex would be incredible. I've been with my boyfriend for around a year, and the fact that he's kind of broke is really getting to me. For context, before we started dating, he would get me flowers weekly and all these random gifts. And I get it. He's got a part-time job and is studying,

but, like, he spends more money on betting than on me nowadays. What do I do and how do I not sound like an entitled ass? Wait, pause. The bedding is also for you, no? Yeah, and you need to watch industry season three, the episode, the Christmas episode, where Rishi literally blows up his life. Yeah, that's so funny. Wait, okay, actually I want to talk about this because this is really interesting.

Like, there's totally, like, you get to have your, like, non-negotiables, obviously. Everyone gets to maintain set and maintain their own boundaries. And like life is so hard right now. Like people are broke. Jobs suck. Gas is a million dollars. You know what I mean? I don't even drive it.

I know that. Okay. Exactly. I don't even drive currently and I know that. But I would just say like, especially like post-COVID things have been so crazy like with the, all the things. like maybe just try to have a little more compassion for like why someone might be broke unless you think they're like not trying.

I think her issue is that they're spending money in other facets. But I think the compassion still applies because he's betting, but like clearly to like. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Betting? Oh my God. I thought you meant like linens as in bed linens. No, that's why I said watch industry. That's why I was like, no, that he's betting his money.

Oh, hell no, no, gambling. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Scratch everything I said. I'm obsessed with your switch up on that. Compassion about betting? Yeah. Give me a britt. No, no, that would drive me through a fucking wall.

We saw how that ended in industry. Exactly. Watch that episode because your life's going to shit. One of the great Christmas episodes of industry. It's so crazy that it's a Christmas episode. I'm telling you with always the fucking Christmas episode. It's always the Christmas. I wonder what they'll do for this Christmas.

That's what I was wondering, because this Christmas wasn't, what was this, was this Christmas the Kit Harrington episode when it was? Yeah, that was. Yeah. Yeah. In Muck Manor,

they had the big tree and all the stuff. Yeah. And Yaz kicks out her on. Iconic. Hey Jake and lovely guest. Basically my dad gave me his old iPad, but still has this, but still had his WhatsApp connected to it.

And I saw him texting a mistress of some sort. My heart dropped because I thought my parents were healthy and good. I snooped a little more to find out this girl was his sugar baby of sorts and he was signed up to all these sugar daddy sites. Is it my place to ask him about it or should I go straight to my mom help? This is so weird. Ooh.

I think that really depends on what your relationship is with both of the parents. You're already handling it better than I would because like you're writing in and you're like trying to find a good way to like. Getting advice. I don't know what I would do. I would go to my sister. sibling if I had a sibling and be like, what the fuck am I supposed to do with this? And if you don't have a sibling, I would go to my mom.

Oh, yeah. I would go to my mom. I would just say this is what's happening. Deal. I can't. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably the way, isn't it? Yeah.

I didn't have two parents to do this sort of thing with, so. Yeah, that would be, I think my thing would be, I would go to my mom. Ooh, you know what I might do, allah Harper? I might go to my dad and be like, if you don't deal with this, I will. Yeah, that's also a good. And threaten him. Yeah. My thing is I would feel so guilty that if my mom knew I knew and like.

Oh, right. It would, it's so. Oh, yeah. I guess it depends on the personality of the parents as well. Good luck. Good luck. Well, what did we learn today? What did we learn today?

I learned about the bodies and the mind, like how they connect. We learned about vitamin D and K3. Believing in yourself. Yeah, totally. And like surviving your Saturn return. Hell yeah. I learned, and I mean I sort of like gleaned this of you anyway, but like you're such a kiki. Like you're such a key.

You're such a key. You're so much fun. You clearly love to have fun and you love people. Like you have a show where you get to talk to people about people. You also clearly love to help people if you have people writing in. Thank you. You want to talk about advice. So I learned today that like you're really for the streets.

Yeah. I am really for the streets. You are a community person. person. Yes. I feel very loved and appreciated by you. You are. I'm so glad you feel that way because you are so loved and appreciated in this house. Thank you very much.

Yeah. I'm really grateful that we got to do this. Me too. Well, thanks for coming on the show. Bye, pussies. Are you one of those media strategy people clicking through slides, scrolling spreadsheets? Yes? Good, this is for you. Because on Spotify, there's an audience that's different,

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