Therapuss with Jake Shane - Session 129: Alicia Carmody

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:44 Tonight we have on Alicia from the Real Housewives of Rhode Island, one of my favorite shows on television. And it is also one of Manny's favorite shows on television. This is your first intro. This is my first intro and I'm a little nervous. Oh, don't be nervous. Okay. We're just going to talk about how much we love Alicia. And what do you love about Real Housewives of Rhode Island?
Starting point is 00:01:02 What don't I love about the Real Housewives of Rhode Island? Basically, every single woman on it is, like, wild. They all have the best accents ever, and just hearing them speak to each other is a treat. Yes. They're just silly. They're, like, insane. They all have these, like, crazy houses and crazy jobs. Like, one of them owns a weed store.
Starting point is 00:01:28 One of them owns a pizza store. Where we went. I didn't get to go. Mani. And the pizza? I know. I don't like pizza. pizza. It was fucking amazing. She has like a hot honey pizza. Yeah, I was looking at their yelp.
Starting point is 00:01:42 She has the heart shaped pizza. I know. And I'm really bummed that I wasn't there. We'll see her again. Oh, I feel it in my bones. She's everything. Yeah, I know. She's everything. I know. And she gives pretty good advice in this episode. She gives some really good advice. The housewives always give great advice. Well, because they've like lived lives. Yeah. Like all of them. Like they, they've been through a lot. free show and on the show. I think that's what makes watching Housewives, like, so empowering. I, like, feel so empowered when I watch Housewives. Me too.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I feel like, I'm like, oh, my God, if they can do that, I can do anything. Yes. Well, also, you were mentioning this before about how it's like, they get in these crazy fights, and then they move on and they make up and their best friends again. Yeah. I don't know people like that in real life. And it's so fun to watch that on screen because it really is like, wow, they go to like the deepest, darkest depths of their anger.
Starting point is 00:02:35 and shame and screaming and whatever, and then, like, a month later, their best friends again, and they move on. Like, they are strong people. And it's, like, kind of the beauty of life. I know. It's like, really, they put water under the bridge, and they're like, we got to make a show.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Let's just keep going. Yeah. I hope you guys enjoyed tonight's episode. We filmed it at Pizza Mama in Rhode Island, because for me, that there was nowhere else to film this episode. Alicia is, so I think she is going, I think she's bound to be one of the greatest housewives we've ever seen. I do want to add something because I went out to Rhode Island to film this with everybody.
Starting point is 00:03:11 And I want to shout out Billy as well and Alicia because they were so hospital or hospitable. Yes. To me, when I got there, they moved like the earth to make sure that we could set up after we went through like two bottles of Prosecco and they just fed me. And then Billy like helped me put my luggage into the car for the airport, helped me clean up and the whole staff at Pizza Mama. It was a really fun day, and I just want to shout them out. Oh, amazing. It was fantastic. Fucking shout out Alicia. Shout out Billy.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Shout out the entire staff at Pizza Mama. It is really like, you walk in there, and that place feels like home. I'm telling you. Also, did you watch the finale? I did. You did? I did. I am obsessed with Billy and Alicia from the finale.
Starting point is 00:03:58 He loves her so much when he reproposed her. I know. Oh, my God. And then she just kept me like, you've never done anything like. this ever the entire time I've known you would have being like yeah I know that's why I'm doing it now I know I love them you were never homeless you were never homeless I know wow that's a good impression thank you they keep saying about Liz and but Liz was saying it about herself which kind of makes me like she's like I'm the sweetest person I'm a sheep and wolf's clothing I don't
Starting point is 00:04:29 know if you could say that about yourself so she's essentially claiming she has a tough exterior but deep down she's nice. Yes. So her actions are mean, but actually she's nice. Yes. You can't say that about yourself. I agree.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Can't wait for the reunion. I know. Me too. I'm so excited. Me too. Enjoy the episode, Pussies. I love you guys. Alicia Carmody.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Welcome to Therapas. Oh my God. I love you. I love you. I brought you crackers and Fig Newton's and we're drinking wine. That is the best gift in the world because everyone knows how much I love this. Like I'm like literally, I live off of this stuff. Have you been eating them forever?
Starting point is 00:05:02 I've been eating these since I was like a child. Right, right, right. So to be honest with you, with the crackers, I think it's more of like a nervous thing. Like, I have anxiety. Right. And I didn't realize how much I talked about crackers until watching myself back on the show. You really didn't even clock it in the moment. Because you were so in it.
Starting point is 00:05:16 We were just talking about that. Yeah. Like, it was my anxiety. Like, you know, when you get butterflies, like that feeling, I would just want a cracker. Right. Right. You know, like some people want a sick. I wanted a cracker.
Starting point is 00:05:26 You smoke cigs? I used to. I don't love them no more. Why? Why did you stop? I got pregnant. Oh, okay. Well, that's always a good reason.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah. Yeah. That's always a good reason. Yeah. How was the reunion? The reunion was, it was needed. It was very much needed. And I feel like a lot of things had to be said and answered for, too, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Were you on good terms with everyone? I was. Not at the reunion. I mean, God, filming brings it out of you, huh? Yeah. Because, you know what I didn't know, like going into first season is like, if you have to talk about things over and over, So you're like getting very emotional,
Starting point is 00:06:03 talking about things that upset you. Yeah. And I didn't know how the world was going to react, you know? Like, you're just like, just trying to be yourself and just figuring out as you go, you know? Right. And you've known Liz since you were what, like five, like babies? Since I was born.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Was it weird, like filming with her? Yeah, it was fine. But yeah, at the same time when you're like giving me attitude, I'm like, you're giving me attitude on camera though. Right. That's sad. At the end of the day, it's like you're calling me out on camera. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah. So, like, that part's with me. Like, how do I handle this on camera? Then you're like, you know what? after a while, it's like if we're just going to be real, I'm just going to try this, you know, answer how I would answer her. Right, exactly. Do you fight like that in like real life as well?
Starting point is 00:06:40 Or was it like, do you like never fight? Like, so normally I would have never talked to her again. But since I'm on the show with her, like I'm like, well, I have to forgive her, which is good. Yeah. This is good. Instead of me, I run away from problems instead of addressing them. Right. So I feel like that really helped me a lot, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah. You like shut down. I shut down and run. I just won't answer phone calls. I avoid like the plague. But on this, you can't do that. You have to face your fears and like have to, you know, respond. And I didn't know how to do that before, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:10 Do you think it's like making you a better person? It made me a lot stronger. Yeah. A lot stronger, you know? I didn't realize I was that sensitive. You aren't that sensitive. I was with you on the homeless thing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I was team you all the way. That's your truth. Listen, I never lived on the streets. I never said that. I just said my father's like sold our home, took all of our money. and I had to move from house to house. I lived my aunt, my grandparents, and then he came back in.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And so, like, when she was questioning me, I felt like, you know my story, but we grew up very similar. Right, okay. And I didn't, like, know where to go with that. I was stuck in the car for two hours. That was two hour drive. Two hours of the same story, by the way.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Two hours. So I was, like, having a severe anxiety attack. Did you have crackers? I did. Joan kept going, do want to crack? And I was like, yeah, I do. I'm nervous, you know? So have you known Joe Ellen?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Have you guys have all known each other? Yeah. Just not Ashley. I didn't know Ashley and I wasn't really close with Rula until maybe a year before we started filming and same thing with Rose. Okay, thoughts on Ashley? Like very, I thought she was from Nebraska. I was like, wait, they didn't show that.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I was like, girl, you are like not from here. You are like so Nebraska. We want Nebraska. I don't know. It's a vibe. And I like don't know anything about Nebraska but like she's Nebraska. I've been to Nebraska and like, I get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah. I was right. Yeah, you're always right. I'm always right. You're always right. Thank you. I love, so how have you redecorated this place since the show has come out? We opened it, like, probably, like, a few months before the show came out.
Starting point is 00:08:41 And this was, like, an express. This was, like, a tryout because he owns, like, a lot of restaurants. Like, bigger restaurants. You know what I mean? Well, you got to get a stake in those, too. Right. Well, no. Well, yeah, well, those are his partners and stuff like that, you know?
Starting point is 00:08:51 Oh, so that's... This is your baby. This is your baby. So I feel like we want to expand it, but this is, like, the tryout, you know? Yeah. Because he was like, who's going to want to come to a sexy pizzeria? Like, I'm a man. Like, I don't want to be, like, in pizza mall with the chandeliers.
Starting point is 00:09:03 You know what I mean? Well, it's cute. It's sassy. It's sassy. It's perfect. Can we try some pizza chips? Yes, let's do it. I need to try.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Pizza chips, Big Will. Big Will? And so Big Will didn't want to do the pizza chips either. Who's Big Will? Oh, I call them Big Will. Oh, I thought you were talking to Billy. Oh, no, Billy. Thank you, Billy.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Oh, are they in hearts? Are these hearts? No, they're a little circle. So the thing with the pizza chips, it's like a little circle. It's light. It has like seasoning, maybe like some parmesan cheese, salt and pepper. And this is the mama note because I don't really cook. Cooking rule.
Starting point is 00:09:36 You want to read it? Cooking rule. If at first you don't succeed, order pizza. Love Mama X-O-X-X-O. That's my gossip girl. You know the X-O-X-O-X-O. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The internet has to throw that in there.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Do you love gossip girl? Of course I do. What other shows do you watch? I love that show. What's that one? I just said it again. Off campus. Oh, right?
Starting point is 00:09:55 I'm obsessed. I love that so much. The summer I turned pretty. I never got into the summer I turned pretty. I'm dead. Now I might not talk to you. Wait, why? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I just could never do it. I tried. I could never do it, though, because I felt the same way. It was a slow stop, but then you start to, like, love them. Who were you? Who did you want to end up with belly?
Starting point is 00:10:15 What was a cute one that I liked? Jeremy. Oh, you were team Jeremiah? I love Jeremiah. He loved her. He loved her so much. The other one was too. in his emotions.
Starting point is 00:10:26 He was like, I was the only one that like Team Jeremiah. Right, right. Oh my God, okay, that's my first bite. Yeah. Mm. Right. Perfect for the beach.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Yes. Right. So good. Light, easy. I usually put them on a platter for appetizers and when people come over with the chakouterie board
Starting point is 00:10:43 with like mini spinach pies, little pizzas. It's just like a picky. You know what I mean? A picky. But you don't feel like sick. Like put your beat in the sun. You're not feeling like you have like a grinder.
Starting point is 00:10:52 You don't mean? You have like something light. Just a dude has to do it. do, like a grinder. What's that? You don't know what a grinder is? I was so excited. I know the app.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Can I teach you? Oh, it's not the app. You know, an Italian grinder. So it's like a sub. It's like an Italian loaf with like the prosciutto. They can do the Italian dressing. The cheese is prevalon cheese, salami with the peppers. Oh, it's like a problem.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Okay, yeah, yeah. I know that's what you guys called them here. What do you guys call them? Like in Italian. Yeah, yeah, the Italian. We call me the grinders. Okay, I love that. Have you, and what is your favorite thing about Rhode Island?
Starting point is 00:11:27 Um, oh, there's so many. Like for food. Oh, so I like being close to everything. Right. I, because I don't drive. I also. Neither do I, by the way. You don't?
Starting point is 00:11:35 That's something we share in common. Stop it right now. I refuse. I can't. Do you drive like 10 minutes? Nope. I don't even have my license. I love you.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Where are you from originally? New York. I'm up, that's why. Yeah. And my dad was like, it's not happening for you. But why, though? What did you feel? I would hit someone.
Starting point is 00:11:50 You did? No, I would. Oh, okay. Yeah. I know you did. So we're like, we're supposed to be friends. I know we're supposed to be friends. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:58 What sign of you? Do you want to guess? I feel like a Leo. No, but I see how you would get there. I'm Scorpio. Oh, Scorpio. I love a Scorpio. What are you?
Starting point is 00:12:09 I'm a Saj. I'm right in the cusp. Oh, I love a Saj. You're a Sajj. Aren't you? Amani. Oh, you're a Virgo. Oh, my God. Oh, that's Billy's birthday.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Billy's a Sats. I love it here. We love Sage. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like brain down because of the fucking Knicks last night. I'll go.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It's okay. I get it. Like, it was, it was. Did they win? Did they win? Did they win?
Starting point is 00:12:36 Oh, it was like the biggest comeback in sports history. Oh, was it really? Yeah, it was the first quarter, right? I'm like, oh, fuck, they're losing. This guy, he was like, I promise you, they're going to win.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Stop it. He was like, he was like serving drinks. He was like, I promise you. Mark my words, they're going to win. And we're down like 30 points. I'm like, how are we going to win? he said they just need to start shooting threes and they started shooting threes.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I don't know what that really means. I think it's like from far away. Three points. Yeah. I love you. A little bit further. Yeah, a little bit further. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:03 And they won and it was like, I literally full body chills all over my body. Tits were hard. Like everything. I was literally like on the floor screaming. It's the best feeling in the world. Community. Right?
Starting point is 00:13:13 And you feel the energy in the room and everyone's so happy that it just gives you that boner. What? Whatever. What team do you root for? So when I was young, I don't really watch. once anymore, but I used to love Orlando Magic because I was obsessed with Shaquille O'Neal. And he also
Starting point is 00:13:28 was a rapper. Did you know that? Shaquille O'Neal. Shaq. I loved him. What rap? Oh, he used to rap. He used to have the kid, like, it was like on a tape. There was tapes. There wasn't Citi-A. Oh, a mixtape. No, it was like a tape. Like there was like a cassette. Cossette. Yes. And A.B. And I used to love his music when I was younger. And I just thought he was so epic. What music do you listen to today? Oh, I still love Rihanna. Love Rihanna. I can't like, I, Brittany. I love a Britney Spears. Love Britney.
Starting point is 00:13:56 I love Whitney Houston, Diana Ross, Tina Turner. I have like a mix, Kanye, Drake, Nikki Minaj. I love them all. What's your favorite Nicki Minaj song? A moment like this. Yeah, I see that for you. Yeah, because it just feels, every time I listen to it, if I'm in a bad mood, I feel like...
Starting point is 00:14:13 Wait, do you mean moment for life? A moment. I'm a thousand percent of a minute. I never get anything right, by the way. Well, it's perfect. It's Charmaine. Moment for life. is like it just gives you life.
Starting point is 00:14:26 You know what? Yes, yes. Okay, what about what's your favorite Britney Spears song? Hit me baby one more time. Oh, my. But when she came back and when she said, it's Britney bitch, you know what I mean? Like I liked that.
Starting point is 00:14:40 You know, so black out Britney. Yes. Yeah. I love that show. Are you listening to any new artists today? Like anyone, any of the, like younger pop girls? I like Pink Panthers. I like Pink Panthers.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I don't know if I said her name her. I love them. You did? Yeah, I love her. What song do you like? Well, what? the one with Zara Larson. State side?
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yes, I like that. See, I'm not good with like the terms, but I just know that like when I hear what, see the Owen who does my social media, he'll put a song on, I'd be like, I love that and that was Pink Panther. What was the name of it? State Side.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Is Owen gay? No, Owen's the most straightest man ever, actually. Good for you, Owen. So sometimes it's like super funny like having him run my social media because like he's like super straight, you know? Like I'll be like, Owen, you got to like, you know, filter me a little bit.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Like it's okay. Right, right. Like, I don't see it. I'm like, well, you should. Oh my God, Angel Owen. Yeah, he's a good guy. Angel, because you know what? You don't need to filter anything.
Starting point is 00:15:28 You look even better in real life. Thank you. No dead ass. Like, you look better. You look amazing. Everyone always thought I was like six foot tall. I don't know why on TV. But I'm like 5'1.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I'm short too. How tall? You want to guess? I'm so bad at this game. 5.4? Yeah, 5.3. See? I'm good.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah. All right. I was a little good. I realize I'm good. Alicia, what are you therapist about today? Today, Billy had my daughter here without me knowing. and she wasn't dressed up. She looked like she was a ragged doll,
Starting point is 00:15:56 and that stressed me out. Because when she shows up here in front of my friends, I like when she's clean, I don't like when her nails are dirty. I don't like, her hair wasn't brushed. And that, like, gave me anxiety. Is that weird? Isn't she five?
Starting point is 00:16:08 No, she's nine. She was outside. I go, what is she weird? She didn't brush her hair. I know my parents used to be on me about that. I used to post videos online, and I wouldn't brush my hair before. It's charming.
Starting point is 00:16:19 It's just like what a mom does. Like, that's what I'm supposed to do, you know? and it bothers me, but that's like the mother of me. So she's lucky, and you're welcome, Slina, if you hear this one day. She will. You know, you're welcome, I care. Because some others don't care, but I do. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Okay. Oh, hi. Hi. Oh, my God. Is everyone just so obsessed with Pizza Mama? You know, they like it. And I'm happy. It's fun for them.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Right, right. Okay, so that's what you're therapist about. How has Billy been taking to the reception of the show? I think Billy's actually been better than me. I think that I'm having more anxiety. You're having anxiety about it? I didn't have anxiety during filming, but I'm having anxiety, like, after it. Like, you're, what people are saying.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Just, like, trying to keep up. Like, I'm like, oh, my God, I work now. Like, I was in here, so, no, but, like, it's a lot more work than people think it is. So it's, like, I can't keep up with calendars and dates and times, you know. So, like, he's more, like, helping me manage my life. What do you mean? Like, do you miss, like, work, like, life events? Like, I just, like, didn't.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I had, I worked, like, two, three days a week before. And I love that I'm working now. and I love that I get to show that, but like I, I don't know how to manage my schedule yet. You'll learn. Yeah. You'll learn. And like, you know, I don't know how to manage my schedule either. See, all right.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Well, yeah, it's hard. It's hard. You can't do it all. Well, you can't. You can't be funny, charming, and manage a schedule. That's why I say to him when he says to me, I don't know about money. I said, that's your problem. I'm the creator.
Starting point is 00:17:42 That's not my problem, I told him. That's what you are for. Right. You're a balanced team. Right. Yeah. Right, Billy? You know what he does to me every morning?
Starting point is 00:17:50 What? That's how I wake up and have coffee, and he wants me to be in a good mood. I wake up, I can't see. I'm not a morning person. I'm like, so Alicia, today we're going to talk about the balances of what you've been spending. Do you want to wake up to that? Every morning? Almost every morning.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah, you go, you're overspending. What have you been spending? There's a lot of boxes that came in last night, and I try hiding them. She announces to me and Selena, I'm awake. And that is the cue for Selena goes and grabs her cracker biscuits that she eats in the morning. and then I start her coffee and make her coffee with cinnamon and it's waiting for her.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I do, I wake up. You live like a princess. Well, I too. But most of the part. I do. I am very fragile, so yeah. No, but that's okay. I'm fragile.
Starting point is 00:18:31 You should be protected. Yes, you need to be protected. Okay. When Rosie and Kelsey were fighting. Yes. Who did you agree with more? Rosie. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I love Rosie. I also love Kelsey, so it's hard for me. But Rosie is like one of my closest friends of the show. What Kelsey did was kind of mean. Right. Who came. cares about the square footage? I would never, so my home is my safe place. Like, I would never want someone to make fun of that. And she was like showing her real home. Yeah. You know, and it's
Starting point is 00:18:57 under construction. So give the girl a minute. God, what else happened this season? Oh, Rula's affair? Oh, talk. Yeah, whatever you want to ask, go for, because I got, please. Who was pushing the agenda of, was it Joellen, mostly? Joellen is like a detective. Really? Has she always been like this? Like, I don't remember her always been like this, but she's so good. It's scary. Did she go out of her way to like find out that he was having an affair? I don't think she went out of her way at the beginning. I think that it was very like everyone knew about it, which I didn't, to be honest with you, that's the truth.
Starting point is 00:19:28 But I think when like Rula was like, you know, this is line, this is AI, Joan's like, I am going to prove you wrong. This man is cheating. And so, you know. Are they still together? Very, they are so happily in love. I mean, if it works for them, it works for them. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:19:44 At the end of the day, like, my mom always told me not to get involved with other people's relationships. Sometimes you're off to for TV, but... Right. And I feel the same way. If she's happy and she doesn't want to know anything, like, I'm just going to the beat of her drums. But how awkward did you feel at that dinner, though, knowing about the video? I liked Brian. To be honest with you guys, Brian is actually amazing. Besides the cheating part. Like, he's fucking funny. The man is funny. Like, you cannot take that away from him. He is funny.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Like, he's always saying something. You're like, oh, my God. Like, you know... So it was hot. And I also see him, like, he was a great dad to have both of his children. And I seen him in his home taking care of Rula. So it was, yeah, it was awkward because I did, I do see a good side to him. Right. You know? I, so the season finale is next week, which I have not seen yet. Does shit go down?
Starting point is 00:20:31 Of course. Always. But like, does it go down like it went down at what's his face is Frank Sinatra night? No. Okay. No, not like that. That was bad. So bad.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And I, like, and I, I got to tell you, I love, I love. And I think that's why I was crying so hard. And I'm not used to crying so that was like new to me too like that. So I was like I just wanted it to end. Like I just wanted her to be like, you made your point. I don't even care anymore at this point because what does it mean to like what does it matter what you think? I know what happened.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Exactly. What does it matter? But would she not drop it? She wouldn't drop it. She wouldn't leave me alone about it. That's why Joellen was sticking up for me. Right. And she never left it alone even after that.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Are Liz and Joellen on good terms are now? Not really. Yeah. You guys are like my family. Every Monday, I sit down. I'm like, I text to Mani. And I, like, yes, you don't understand. And I had a gut feeling.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I said, I know this is going to be good. I know this is going to be good. They've all known each other since they were kids. Like, I know this is going to be good. Every Monday, you on my screen, dinner. It is the best ritual of all time. It's the best show ever. Really?
Starting point is 00:21:37 Yes. Is it because I think that we all, like, really, like, showed our truth, like, who we are? Yes. You said your truth. You said, like, how you grew up, like, how you feel. You showed your life. That's what reality television's about. Right. You know, it's reality.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And I really did hate Billy in that minute, by the way, when I did flip out of him or whatever, I said something. But I love him too. So, like, it shows that, like, in relationships, what I felt like with my thing, what helped us is that, you know, no one has a perfect relationship. And you just got to work through it if it's, like, strong enough or if it's worth it, you know? Right. And I liked doing that with him. It helped us. Was Billy, like, initially apprehensive about doing the show?
Starting point is 00:22:13 Well, he was like, why would you want to put your daughter on to you? TV. Why would you want it? Like, people can judge you. You know, I obviously don't say a lot of the right words a lot. I mess up a lot. And if you do that for a mistake, the world might hate you. You know, and it's a mistake. So that part's scary. You know what I mean? Because I don't always say the right thing. But I don't mean it intentionally. It's just a mistake, you know? Were you, were anything specific that you said that you were like worried was going to be taken the wrong way when you said it? I ran over a woman. Yes. I was like, oh, the world is going to be like, where it's over. But I. Can you tell me about that? She jumped in front of my car. Okay. And I was with my best friends. And we came from, I think I was driving slow. And she dove in front of my car and I hit her.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And she cracked my windshield and she got up in the city to run away. And I said, no, you can't. Because I was thinking you could have a brain injury, you know? Oh, my God. I would love a grinder. You guys make that here? But he wanted the hot honey. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I'll do both. Oh, my God. Alicia, I love you. You feel like family to me. You know, I love food. I love food, too. Okay, I got to try the hot honey. You got to try the hot honey.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Oh, oh, my God. The Italian grinder is my favorite food when I'm drinking. I don't know why. When I'm really, if I have like three drinks, I'm like right for that. It's a bread. It's a dressing. But that's, that's epic. You're lying.
Starting point is 00:23:32 No, it's not. What? That's so good. Do you like that? So there's a cheese crust around it. No. It's light and airy. Does anyone, is anyone from Detroit over here?
Starting point is 00:23:42 I never had Detroit until. No. Oh, my God. Wait, I'm like actually... Yeah, it's so good. I don't love pizza. You don't like pizza? Not really.
Starting point is 00:23:53 What? What do you eat sushi? Am I good? I'm so psychic, by the way, F-I-I-I. I eat like sushi, Thai. Yeah, I know it when you said you like pizza. I like pasta, though. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Oh, my God, I can't stop eating. I'm like, my fat outs is just going to be munching to the mic the whole time. That's how I get. If you got my house, I want you to eat. Right. You know, whether we have Greek food or the Italian eat, wine, drink, dessert. You like Greek food? I love Greek food.
Starting point is 00:24:19 food. Well, Billy's Greek. Oh. So he owns a lot of Greek restaurants. Oh, I didn't know that. Round two, we got to go to the Greek group. Well, only if you have a steak in it. Yeah. Yeah. So that's his mothers and his dad and all that went together. Oh, that's all right. They don't care. But I, you know, you never know. But I, I never really liked Greek food until I met him. Right. When did you guys meet? How'd you guys meet? He stalked me. He was, he was persistent. I wasn't into him. And then, um, yeah, no, but then I felt, I like a stalker. Really? Yeah. I like someone. I think. I'm very shy that like if you have to fucking beat me down and be like, I want you.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I want you. Then I'm like, I fucking love you. Then I'm a lifetimer. Yeah. I think that's kind of similar. Yeah. In terms of relationships, like romantic relationships, but like you need to be like, I want you.
Starting point is 00:25:02 We're doing this. Or else I'll just be stubborn. Yes. Because it's like something. I don't know. Maybe it's my anxiety. I don't know what it is. But he had to lock it down.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Probably, probably anxiety. I love how open you are about your anxiety. Do you think like when you go to bed, like, are you anxious every night? No, when I wake up, I'm anxious. Got it. Nighttime is when you're free. I'm so tired. I want to watch a show. You guys, do you hear that rumbling? It's getting closer.
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Starting point is 00:27:09 Find exactly what you're booking for on booking.com. Booking dot, yeah, book today on the cider in the app. This is the best day of my life, by the way. I'm obsessed with you. I love you down. I love you down. I'm dead. When you tell me that,
Starting point is 00:27:25 I get so excited, I get so excited. I want you jumping jacks is something. I literally damned you being like, I need you in my life. Like, I need to start texting you. Can we start texting?
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yes, please. I love to text. Do you play like the whirdle? Who? A wordel? Never mind. Do you watch TikToks? I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Are you a real person? I do like voice memelmels. I don't like no technology. I do like voice notes. Okay, okay. That's what I'm good at. Right, right, right. I need to take a bite of this grinder.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yes. Do I just eat it as is? Yeah, you put it together and you just chop out it. Very Italian. Hmm. What the fuck? Yeah, so good. You balance?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yes, of course. We have salads. We have desserts. We have a Nutella pizza. No. I'm not even, you can tell when I'm lying. Like, this food is fucking insane. It's cute.
Starting point is 00:28:12 It's good. This is Italians made this food. They did. Well, Billy's Greek. So. Well, yeah. But so the pot of Greece that he's from is like right next to the pot of Italy that I'm from. So it's wild.
Starting point is 00:28:21 So it's like a boat right away. Do you guys ever go? Yes. Yes. Yes. Please God. It's the worst. Ang, it's the biggest fight.
Starting point is 00:28:29 We broke up about it many times. What? Yeah, he's obsessed. With going on vacation to Greece. He's obsessed. It's like, oh, I have to hear about it every single holiday. Every time I'm happy, every time I'm sad, every family event. We have to talk about Greece.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Like, what do you? Give me an example. Do you know anyone Greek? Wait, I'm like, we actually went to couples therapy about Greece. Wait, give me, give me an example. Give me an example. We're talking, we're talking. Hi, Billy.
Starting point is 00:28:57 You know, I've got to go to Greece this summer, right? Well, Billy, I can't. I'm filming a show. Well, I've got to go to Greece. This is what I did all summer long. And my father, my brother, you know, we've got to go to Greece. My daughter needs to speak Greek and my daughter needs to go. It's like all day.
Starting point is 00:29:08 It could be Christmas. But in Greece. Like, it's like Greece. It's like, yes, it is. It's all you do. And then he blasts Greek's music. like Greek music in the car, and he smacks the windshield, and he smacks this, and it's just like, that's what Greeks do.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And I get mortified, and it's not hot. And you know it, Billy. And my daughter gets so ashamed. So you don't like Greece? I like it. Like, I'm so happy I got to, like, do it and go. I don't need to go to every summer. You're not a vacation person, are you?
Starting point is 00:29:40 I love vacation. Oh, you are? I thought you liked staying at home. I love being home, too, though. Oh, no, I get FOMO when I'm not home. Okay. I get FOMO too. Like all my friends are in Monaco right now.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I kind of have FOMO. But like, you didn't go to Monaco? I went, but then I left. But aren't you happy to go and be like, I want to go home? But you know what? I got to leave and I said, I literally said. I was like, you know what? Like, trust the higher power.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yeah. And then I went to the Nix and I saw the biggest comeback in sports history. And it's like, thank you. Yeah. It's literally like, thank you. Because you don't need to be everywhere. You can just be close to home and have that experience. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Exactly. Yeah. What's the best concert you've ever been to? It's Britney bitch. You saw Brittany? Yes. Which tour? When she was doing the circus tour.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Oh, you saw a good. And you know who else was really good, Beyonce? Whoa. That's Beyonce. What tour did you see of Beyonce? Halo. Right when Michael Jackson died. You saw the Sasha Fier's?
Starting point is 00:30:30 Oh. No, right when Michael Jackson died, she sang that song Halo. And I remember just crying my eyes out because she was so beautiful on stage. She was like an angel. Uh-huh. You know, and you can feel things. You know how you might meet your favorite celebrity and you might like, I've always loved them. But then you see them, you're like, you wait, shit.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Or whatever. You don't have that bad. You know what I mean? And then you meet someone like you already thought and they're like just glowing. That's how they both were to me. We were talking about Beyonce
Starting point is 00:30:53 on the ride over today. We said she just glides. She was like an angel. I was like she is like like I felt it like you know. Right. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Do you want to get into the tell me what's wrong? Oh, I love a tell me what's wrong. This is where you give advice. Okay, Tom. I give you advice. No, you give the pussies advice. Okay, pussies. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I love it. You just have another bite in my grinder because it is that good. Oh, I'll sip my drink. Summer is all. about spontaneity and what is more spontaneous than a summer Friday turned into weekend extravaganza. You could go for a simple after work moktail or cocktail with a friend and it could turn into an entire weekend trip. Chances are you'll be having a Venmo balance this summer because you will either be paying for something,
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Starting point is 00:34:06 Any burning questions from the Rhode Island fan? I'm hungry. Well, of course I'm hungry, but I feel like you need to go to Greece with Angie Kay. So I met her. I feel like she'll change your life about how you feel about Greece. So you don't go to Italy either.
Starting point is 00:34:24 I love Italy, but I like a city. Fair. So I like, I love Rome. I love Paris. I love London. But Greece, it's... I love Greece so much. No, and I do.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I just, I'm so happy I went. I feel like we can have a special of you and Angie K like going to Greece and her changing your mind. Have you met Angie K? I did meet Angie K. I met her at the girls trip, the Ultimate Girl's Trip. You did Ultimate Girl's Trip? What did I do?
Starting point is 00:34:50 Did I do that? I just know what I did. It was like the old cast. The Bravo rep is shaking. Wait, what did I? Very calm. I think it was. It was like the one that all the girls got together.
Starting point is 00:35:03 They were traveling. And so it was like the grand finale. Uh-huh. And Angie Kay was that. And I was like, oh, my God. I have to go up to because you're Greek. And Billy loves being Greek. We hear about it all day long.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And you love it. Greece. You guys just went. And she was like, I love Greece. And she was beautiful and so nice. Gorgeous. Gorgeous. High body count hair. Yes. No. Do you watch any other housemen shows? I used to love the old jersey. I haven't watched a new one. I was obsessed with
Starting point is 00:35:28 Jersey. Well, people are saying that you guys are giving old jersey. That gives me life, because that's why I used to watch it. It reminded me of my family. Yeah. My aunt. So I felt like I was like in my kitchen or my dining room table sitting with them. And I also love Utah. Salt Lake. Yeah. Best. Love. For sure.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Was Kelsey? boyfriend or old ex-boyfriend, the one that paid for everything. Like, how did she get him to agree to filming in the house? I heard that maybe that wasn't his house. So I don't know. We and her never talked about that. So that's the true story. I swear it.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I've never asked. And I just kind of let her do her thing. Okay. And what's up with Rosie at the news station? She was the best newscast girl. Everyone thought she was so hot. Wait, but so what, was it a thing in Rhode Island though at the time? like, oh, Rosie's doing the news?
Starting point is 00:36:15 I didn't watch the news then. So is that we talking about? I never watched the news. Yeah. Didn't watch the news. So I didn't know who she was. Is that what you mean? Like I thought, like, was she like the talk of the town that she was the news anchor.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Yeah, what I think with like what she will say for Rosie. Yeah, my stepdad thought she was beautiful. Like the older crowd, yes. Got it. And then why did she leave the job? She had colitis and she was bleeding through her ass. She said, which I almost died. I said, oh my God, girl, you are so real.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I'd rather die than say that on TV. That's why I love Rosie. But then didn't Kelsey say she lost the job because of an affair? That's not true. Not true. That's so not true. Okay, not true. No, promise.
Starting point is 00:36:52 That's false. And I think that's why Rosie has such a hot time with her. Okay, right, because she's like, you're making shit. Why don't they get along? What do you think it is? All right, so I think that Rosie's not originally from Rhode Island. And so, like, we know, like, the people that are from Rhode Island, we know the whole background story of everyone.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Like, I know Kelsey. I know everything about her. So, like, the fact that we didn't know who Rosie was. was in her background story and we were just going off of rumors and I think that's what it was mean girl a little it was it was more like a mean girl but yet she was like I don't know your background story and I'm trying to figure you out yeah but you had rosy's back but Kelsey's actually sweet she seems sweet but to her and Rosie they they aren't sweet to get like they're not good was the reunion did things get nasty they're just they're always gonna be like you know did
Starting point is 00:37:37 you know but I see Kelsey in a different light but Rosie's obviously I'm very close to Rosie Real honest answer, what goes through your mind when Ashley cries? Like, good feet. I don't, I'm like waiting for. I feel like it's like, you know, it's like oxygen to like breathing. It's like, okay, is it time? If she doesn't cry, I'm offended. If she cries, I'm a little offended.
Starting point is 00:37:56 But if she doesn't cry, I'm offended. Yeah. Yeah, I want her to cry. That's who she is. Oh, love that. Yeah. Have you been to Ashley's restaurant? Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Well, you've been, you went for trivia night, that I know. Right. But did you eat there? It's good. It's great. Billy loves it. Yeah. Billy?
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah, yeah, he loved it. It's cute. It's a vibe. Okay, as a restaurant owner, you think it's going to stay open? Yeah, I think so. Oh, yeah. I think especially now.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Right, right, especially now. Like, he's vested. What is in this wine? Oh, I finished the thing. Let's have more. That's what's going. A rapport. A rapport.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Right away. A report. Fuck me. But the only way out is through, huh? I know. That's why you're going to keep going. Oh, my God. I'm obsessed with you.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Keep going. I always quote the hair of a dragon, but I guess it was a hair of a dog. And it's summer. This summer is like giving, oh, thank you, Billy. Do you guys want pizza? Yes, they do. They're starving.
Starting point is 00:38:44 All right. Everyone's starving. Let's eat. Let's eat. It's a pizza for everyone. Oh my God. I can just tell that you have such a good soul. I do.
Starting point is 00:38:55 No, I'm very real, but I'm 1,000% too. You do. Like, you have so much love to give and it's such a joy to see on my television. So I feel like I've been through a lot. Yeah. And I also, animals love me, babies love me. And I was a hairstylist my whole life. I talked to women and men about their problems.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Right, okay. So I just, like, I empathize with people. Like, I feel things. Some people can just, like, move on. I feel like people's everything. You're an empath. Yeah. And I understand it.
Starting point is 00:39:24 And that's why I was, like, a flip-flop at the beginning. Because, like, I don't want to judge people. I didn't think you were a flip-flop. I actually didn't think you were a flip-lop. I thought you were just trying to see every side. I was. Thank you for the, yeah. No, but I really did.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I was like, Joe Ellen, flip-flop. flop because she is she's the one that gave me the name love joe ellen joe melons love her love her down but she is a flipflop but you you're not to be a flip flop you have to be calculated and you're just genuinely trying to understand everyone's pov i wish i was more calculated to be on the show i have no time i'm 80 day i can't even do homework i can't balance a schedule what homework i just like can't do any like i have homework like if it's like for the way for the business of this but i wish i envy that about joe ellen wait what like what was what was What would like homework, like, what would homework look like?
Starting point is 00:40:10 Like, for like, just like certain things. Like, we have to do this. You have to do this. Like, I don't like homework. I don't like, I don't even like my daughter's homework. I get overwhelmed. When she comes home. Does she ask you for help?
Starting point is 00:40:19 I'm not good. So she goes to him now. Do you help? Yeah, I don't do the homework no more. I'm not good at it. So. Right. Not my thing.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Does she like school, Selena? Loves. Loves. Love. She's a, she's my daughter. She's social. What was high school like for you in Rhode Island? What was it like?
Starting point is 00:40:34 Like what? Like, would you go to Friday night football games? Like. So you're going to skeeve me. But I'm going to be honest with you. I was very popular. No, I really was. Like were you had Queen Bee?
Starting point is 00:40:46 I was just like, but like in a genuine way. I was friends with everybody. I wasn't just friends with the popular girls. I was friends with like everybody. I loved all groups. But I was like, where I would have to hide. So like if I went to the market. And I also have a very big family in Rhode Island.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Right. Right. So in high school, Like, I couldn't get a, I couldn't smoke a cigarette, put it this way, because I would get caught. I couldn't cut classes. I would get caught. Everyone was always trying to protect me. So you've always been famous?
Starting point is 00:41:14 Like when I was young, Billy, what happens when I hide from people? Tell them. I hide. What do you mean you hide? Like, so like, we'd be at Garden City. I'd be like, oh, God. And I love people, but I also, you need your downtime. You need your downtime.
Starting point is 00:41:28 So, yeah, like, people, yeah. When did the doll obsession begin? I've always loved dolls. Uh-huh. When I, if a doll's hair was out of place, I would smash it and throw it as a kid. I think I had OCD, but no one knew about it. Oh, I have OCD. I think I do too.
Starting point is 00:41:45 How does it manifest for you? Not well. Not well, bitch. No, no, it's bad. And it's the point where, like, I don't let my daughter play with her dolls as much upstairs. But now she is, I'm getting better. My house, my blanket. Like, today, when I told you, my daughter came here and she did ever hear, like, I have, I like things.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I can't explain it. I like things groomed. Yeah, yes. You know? Okay, so these are the tell me what's wrongs.
Starting point is 00:42:11 We give the pussy's advice. Okay. Okay. My wedding is next summer and my fiance and I, oh my God, you're going to hate this one, are going to Greece. Okay. Why? For two weeks for their honeymoon. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Oh, I kind of love the chaos. They pissed. We have had this plan for months. One of my really close friends just said she wants to have her wedding a week after mine. I told her I'd be on my honeymoon and wouldn't be able to go to her wedding and she said, yeah, like, I don't give a fuck vibes. What should I do? I'm really sad about it, but don't want to seem selfish for being upset. Okay, so it's a week away. She told her about it and her friend, is she more mad that her friend's more like, no, I don't give a fuck? Yeah, that's what she's upset about.
Starting point is 00:42:54 All right. So I would be like, you know what? I'm so sorry. I would still give my peace so I could sleep at night and then also just enjoy your wedding and let her focus on hers and let them let you girl you know what I mean yeah yeah because that's you have to say your peace or if it's gonna eat you up in lot like it will eat you up alive even if it's not right right right like even if it's not right like you feel how you feel you feel and if you don't feel right and you're like I don't like the way this landed I still want to tell you I'm really upset I can't go but I need you I don't want to I want you to enjoy your wedding I'm going to enjoy mine do you think she should tell her I'm a that you don't seem to care.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah, I would be like, oh my God, how are you not sad, girl? Like, we're besties, I want to be there, I want you to be there, like, it bothers me, you know? Yeah. And maybe her friend doesn't know how to be emotional right now. Maybe she's just like caught up. Right, right. And by the way, I just would like, ooh, Nolan, tell me what you think.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Are you not, oh, I, we need to see the, we need to see their reactions. I'm so excited, oh my God. No, I bitch, I told you. That is so incredible. I, it's like, actually, I, insane. Insane. Insane. Insane.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Like, you have a... Chicken bacon ranch. Used to be my favorite in college. Got me through life. Where'd you go? I went to school in Ohio, really small school in Ohio. Okay, because that's like a...
Starting point is 00:44:09 That's one of his... Okay. Yeah, and this is insane. Yes, that's like the number one seller. Like, when I was drunk, this would say... Yes, girl. I really want you to know that you have... The mama needs to come to New York.
Starting point is 00:44:21 No, it's so... You got to go for the... You got to go for the experience. I mean, I want success for you, so I do want it in New York. You should do a pop-up. Do a pop-up. Do a pop-up.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Please. I would do a pop-up. I want to do, like, a bigger restaurant with a bar. Like, a cute bar. You know what I mean? Like, I want to do it, like, cute. What would you call it? Pizza Mama.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Oh, oh, you want to do, like, a bigger pizza mama. This was like the, this was like the express store. It was like the tryout because he didn't trust me. Right. You know what the whole vibe. Well, Billy, do you trust her now? Look at it with his name here. I trust her ideas.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Okay. I do. I do. But I really do. Like, she gets it in a way that I don't and don't see it. But when, like, to run the business, we'll leave that on my side of things. That's fine. That's why you don't know, but that's why it's a good team.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Like, she sees, I never, I thought this was crazy. And people love it. Yeah, and it's this big. Good food, good people. That's all that matters. This was supposed to be a quick thing, get it up and running. You know, it was a little different than what we usually do. And we were, I was just going to sell it.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Like, it was going to be a quick flipper. So she didn't like the name. So, you see how we're so business. We're so not alike. No, but that's right. You can't be so like girls. No, I know. But see, your story is like a history teacher.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I feel like. It's like very history. She makes me laugh. Do you just laugh all day with her? Most of the time. Yeah, he does. And then I get mad. Then he laughs.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I said, all right. I wasn't even being funny. I think you are a history teacher, though. You like history? It's your favorite historical event. My favorite historical event? I mean, I love the story about the Peloponnesian War. So, boy.
Starting point is 00:45:56 So not my type. What? No, it doesn't matter. Yeah, I don't like history. Yeah, I don't either. He tells me history, I said, I can't be bothered. I also can't be bothered. But I actually, I'm, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Some of it I do. I'm good at, I used to do improvisation. Yeah. And I would like improvise historical skits. Yes. Like Romeo and Juliet. Yes. One thousand.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Romeo and Juliet. Is that history? It should be, if it isn't. Is that poetry? Is that English? I don't know. Whatever. Nice way.
Starting point is 00:46:29 You think Romeo and Juliet actually happened? I wish it did. It didn't. It's Shakespeare. He's a poet, but that's still like, I feel like it had to happen in history. He's like, is he a poet? I feel now I'm like, is he?
Starting point is 00:46:42 I don't know. Billy? That's why I was going. Billy. Is Shakespeare a poet or is he just a, like, a storyteller? Yeah, you're right. I knew you were right. I knew you were right.
Starting point is 00:46:53 All right. We don't need to get to the details, just quick quest. My boyfriend will not stop sending me Instagram reels. Like one out of the 20 of them are funny or interesting, and it's becoming an ick that he's scrolling so much. I think he may be a little down in the dumps, though, so I don't want to pile this on top. How do I be gentle about it, or should I just ignore it?
Starting point is 00:47:15 I would ignore it. Billy does it all the time. I just, I actually feel bad when Billy does it. I'm like, oh, he must miss me. He's, maybe it's like a card that he should have sent me. or yeah, no, I just, I just like, no, I don't even answer them. I put him on silent. You have Billy on, you have, you have him on silent.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Yeah, what is it calling? You just. Do not disturb. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. I don't answer them. He says to be a thousand.
Starting point is 00:47:35 I get you, girl. Does your daughter have a cell phone? No. Good. iPad. Good. On restriction. Good.
Starting point is 00:47:43 I didn't have a cell phone until I was 12, 13, and I needed it to, like, go and, like, do stuff. I don't believe in it, like, too young. Yeah, I completely agree. She's going to be a better person for it, by the way. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Kids are getting them way too young these days It's like a drug for people
Starting point is 00:47:56 It's a drug for me It's a drug for me Yeah When I get to a post and I get likes I'm literally like It feels like I just worked out Isn't that crazy? It's a literal drug
Starting point is 00:48:05 I feel like we're the guinea pigs For like that experience You know what I need I miss I miss like other stuff You know like I hate that I go through my phone I didn't know how to use my phone before I said it for the show by the way I didn't even know how to use Instagram
Starting point is 00:48:19 I don't know how to take a picture or nothing Well now you have Owen But now I'm yes And now I have Owen that helps me so much. But I hate that I rely on people. Like, did I look good to see on Instagram? But you always look good. You always look good.
Starting point is 00:48:32 But it's still hot. It's like, I didn't ever rely on that. Do you feel like, is it weird perceiving yourself? Like, or watching others perceive you? Is that weird? It's weird because it's like I don't ever want to stop talk about crackers. That's who I am. I eat them all the time, you know?
Starting point is 00:48:46 But people love that. People respond well. I think that people would be like, oh, she's a stuff about a cracker. But I don't realize I'm talking about it. It's just my nervous. it helps me. It's like instead of doing drugs, I do crackers. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:56 You know? Would you ever just like not read the comments? Do you not read or do you just log off? I've been getting better. I think you just need to log off and be you. Yeah. And then good things will come. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Because you are her. Yeah. I want to, I don't want to read the comments anymore. They take my phone. I almost fistful. I tackled her this week. Really? Good friends, by the way. Good friends.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I literally tackled her. I was like, no, show me what she said about me. And she was like, yeah, I'm lucky you have them. I have a money here. She calls me and she's like, did you see what they said about you? Yeah, no, but guess what? Sometimes it's like, you know, ignorance is bliss, and I've lived that by my whole life. So I think it is, if I want to stay the same, I think I have to like block out the noise.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Right, right, right. I'm in law school and hate all of my peers. They're snobby, preppy, no-at-all assholes who dress bad at are probably going to be sleazy lawyers. It sounds whatever, but it's genuinely making me rethink my career path and want to drop out. I want to do good things with this life. So how do I not let them? win. Oh my God, girl. Like, who cares who they are? Be you, shine, and your light will be so bright.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Let them lose. Let them be the sleazy lawyers that they are. And you do you. Stay true to who you are. Done. And people will love that. You give really good advice. I don't. Do you think so? I think you do. Well, I was a hairstyles. I did it for years. F.A. Oh, what's the craziest story you heard when you were a hairstyle? What's the craziest one? You don't even know. I, they have who's up with whose husband. They were switching and swap in and they both didn't think that they knew it but I knew about it because they knew but they weren't it was a nightmare no it was a lot I've always heard stories and I that's why I loved my job because I loved I like listening to people when did you stop being a hairstylist like maybe two
Starting point is 00:50:34 months before the show started okay yeah would you ever go back or you have time now I'm done been there done that I did it since I was like 16 so but now Kelsey is hair stylist yes is she booking clients I don't know I don't know she I don't she I don't she's I don't she I think she might do weddings, but she's not like a, I don't know. Is her ex still paying for everything? I don't, I don't think so. I hope, I don't know. Did you know her ex?
Starting point is 00:51:00 I ran into him a few times. Was he hot? Yeah, he was like a good looking, like he was a catchback in the day for sure. Oh, like, did you go to high school with him? No, no. He was just like, you know, I just think that when you have that much money, you have like a or two. I kind of agree. Yeah, and that's what he had, you know?
Starting point is 00:51:17 Yeah, it's like big dick energy. Yes, B-D-E. BD BDE. My partner is an actor and just landed a role in something. The issue is, while I'm super happy for him
Starting point is 00:51:27 because of how competitive it is out there, he told me there are multiple sex scenes. He plays like The Fuck Boy. I'm sure it's all professional and good and I haven't said anything about it, but it does genuinely bother me and we've never talked about that or really thought about it,
Starting point is 00:51:40 but now I'm uncomfortable. I want to support him and I will, but how do I get over this in the meantime? Go out with your friends and take hot pictures with all different single people. I kind of agree. It's like that's his job too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Like you knew he's an actor. Like you knew what you were signing up for. But that is tricky. I would have killed Billy, but I would be out every night of the week and my best outfits working out, taking care of myself so no bitch can compete. Oh, I haven't been able to work out in weeks
Starting point is 00:52:02 because my wrist hurts so bad. Haven't your wrist? Tentanitis. Oh, why? How? I was doing pull-ups. Oh, no. I can do 12 in a row.
Starting point is 00:52:09 You're so cute. I love you. I couldn't even do one. I couldn't do one. And then you start doing them, and you start doing it with a resistance span and then you just work your way up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:17 You got there, but my wrist, look how swollen. You got it. I know, I've been wrapping it. I got acupuncture. I fell asleep at the acupunctureist. I fell asleep. There was like a heater over me. It was burning my head.
Starting point is 00:52:26 The whole thing knocked over. Oh, not. Wow. Yeah. Are you kidding? I swear. And he kept it, and he gave me like a little button to press for help. And the button fell out when I fell out when I fell asleep.
Starting point is 00:52:34 So I was screaming, help. Help. Help. That place is scary. No, I mean, he clearly knew what he was doing. He put the last needle in and I was out. Okay, good. No, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:52:42 I'm going back tomorrow. I'm kind of hooked. All right, good. There you go. See? I love it. It's a party. Yeah, we'll go together.
Starting point is 00:52:47 The next time you're in New York, you'll love it. Yeah. I have a really hard time becoming friends with my other friends' friends, if that makes sense. So, like, yeah, I got that. I get that. Like, I have my group, and when we party, they introduce me to all these people, and I swear I turn into a brick wall. Like, honestly, I just don't care, and I'm worried they think I'm rude for it. Do you think there's a balance between pleasant and honest, or do I just need to be fake?
Starting point is 00:53:08 Fake into you make it, have a drink, loosen up, and don't think about it too much. Because when you think about it too much, you turn into a stonewall. Just have fun. Right. Vib. You might have something in common, you know? Just start to drink. Have a drink.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Like a half of, even if you don't drink, have like a few sips. Everyone's friends after a few sips. That is very true. You know what I mean? When did you first start? Like one, how old were you when you had your first drink? Um, I think I was like 16, 17. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:53:34 You know, I was like, I was like a very good girl. And I was, I had like a few, like, steps and I was wasted. I'm still like a very much of a lightweight. Right. Okay. Got it. which I love. I mean, it's the best thing in the entire world.
Starting point is 00:53:44 But I get hangovers very easily. Do lightweights get hangovers more than heavyweights? Yes. Okay. Because it sucks. When people can like drink all night and then go out and work out the next day when I'm in bed and they had 10 drinks, I had two and I'm like in bed. Like that pisses me off.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Yeah. What's your hangovers look like? Oh, I'm terrible. I do the eye patches. Billy, Billy, you know. Billy, I can't get out of it. But yeah, Billy. Pippament oil, Tylenol, liquid IV and TV.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Do you ever get in? an IV? Or do you not like needles? Oh, I love an IV. I love an IV. I love an IV. But I wish they came to my house when I had a hangover. I'm not driving. They can come to your house. I don't have a place that comes to my house here. This is prime opportunity for any IV person to go to Alicia's house and give her an IV. Please. And I also get tired all the time. I'm a fragile flower. Yes. Energy. Please help her. Yes. Help me. She can't drive. I'm tired. I'm fragile. I get weak. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:54:39 My roommates got a second cat without asking me. I was already generous with the first one, and they're like a couple, so my friend's boyfriend already had one when he moved in. But they came home the other day saying they found it on the street and decided to help it. Very sweet of them, but they got attached and wanted to keep it. I'm going to kill myself.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Please, what should I do? Oh, my God. See, I love animals. Wrong question. Just, you know, you might like play with a cat. Petter. What's your favorite animal? I love a dog.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I love a pig. I love a horse. I love a fig. I love a fig. I just made that up on cameo just now. That's what just happened, yeah. Wait, did you do that on purpose just now? No, I literally love a dog.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I love cameo, but, you know, I love all the animals. You know your cameo sounds about it on viral. I had to get off. Why? Which I'm so sad about it because. Bravo, bravo said enough. No, it was just like getting to, I felt like I was trying to please everybody
Starting point is 00:55:31 and I couldn't get them all out and it was taking too much of my day and I was getting headaches, so I was like I need a break. You know what you do? You bring them back for like one day and one day only during Christmas. the holiday season when people are feeling sad.
Starting point is 00:55:40 But I love them. I feel like it helps me. So why don't you just do... It's so much. Owen, can you help her get back on cameo? Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, it was too much, though. I was like wasting my day looking at my phone.
Starting point is 00:55:52 You need to have someone, make the cameo, put the phone away, watch TV. Yes, yes. Yeah. So what a day, maybe. One a day. What a week. So I've been completely in love
Starting point is 00:56:02 with one of my closest friends for a while and she is giving such mixed signals. She's always dating or talking to some random guy, but she keeps telling me that she would much rather be dating a girl. She drunkenly pulled me aside at a bar to kiss me one night, but claims it was just silly fun. She's actually so evil. How do I move forward to something better? Go make out with another girl right in front of her and see how jealous she doesn't get jealous. She doesn't give a shit. Yeah. Hello? Right? Yeah. Like, give great advice. Oh, because I've been there done that
Starting point is 00:56:28 with this all. Yeah. By the way. I've been really annoyed lately when people tell me I'm a really nice person. Growing up, I always thought it was a compliment and I wanted to be known that way. But recently, as I navigate the back half of my 20s, I'm realizing I just might be coming across as a pushover, and I have no backbone. I will always be a good friend in person to the people I love, but I don't want to be a dormant. What's your advice to change my narrative? First of all, being nice, there's nothing wrong with being nice.
Starting point is 00:56:53 That's what I think, too. You know what I mean? And if people have a problem with that, like, that's their problem. Let them go hang out with all the devils and the assholes and then see where they're going to always want to go back to a nice person. Right. So they didn't live enough. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Tell them that's, they didn't live enough. Is Dolores going to be filming more next season or no? I don't know. I hope so. I do like her. Do you know? She, because how long have you known Dolores?
Starting point is 00:57:13 I only met her when she set a film with us. Okay. But I watched the show and she was always one of my favorite housewives. Yeah, yeah. She was on New Jersey, right? Yes, and I love Jersey. Yeah. I was a big Salt Lake, Beverly Hills, and I just kind of got through like a few seasons of New York.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Yeah. I never watched New York. I need to. It's great. Yeah. Scary Island is great. But it's just, I think, at the time, do you know what I'm talking about Scary Island? No.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Okay, so they all went on a girl's trip, like Bethany Frankl and them and like, Kelly bin Simone, like went to like psychosis. Oh, really? Yeah, like. Really? Yeah. Oh, right. I got to watch this. Scary Island.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Yeah, but it's like for now, like that's the, an episode of Rhode Island, you know? Yeah, yeah. But now it's like, at the time, it was so major. Right. Am I explaining this, right? Yeah. I need to watch Scary Island. Did you ever watch Bad Girls Club?
Starting point is 00:58:02 No. America's Nextcommodo? No. A little bit I watched it. Okay. Okay. Those were my reality shows back in the day for you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Car troubles follow me like a damn shadow. I cannot catch a break where it's almost like every other month, something is wrong with my car. I'm convinced that I have like actual voodoo bad luck. I know you can't help with that. But what are ways I can keep my cool? I always lose it every time something like this happens and I'm tired. Oh my God, girl, I feel you.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Girl, oh boy, I feel you. I get it, especially with your car. You're like, I'm so tired. It's so much money. I'm putting, it's like a money pit. You want to know what? Just keep going. It'll come back and move on.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Just let it go. What you mean? Just keep going. Let the car fucking run itself into the ground. Yeah. So push it down. Push it down and let it keep going until it all explodes. Something's going to come good out of it, you know?
Starting point is 00:58:51 There'll be a good part of it. Had that ever happened where you push something down and then something good happened? Yes. It's crazy. That's why I said that. Like what? Just like so many accidents and this and that. And then all of a sudden it's like a good thing happens.
Starting point is 00:59:03 You're like, you know what? This is why I went through hell. It's wild. I know it's crazy. but like literally, it happens. It happens. I love the way you live life. I'm trying to live.
Starting point is 00:59:14 You're living. I'm living. Have you ever been to Vegas? Yes. I would love to Vegas. I would love to go to Vegas with you. I love Vegas. How long can you stay there, though?
Starting point is 00:59:22 Three days, four days. I love to shop and I like the shows, you know. I love a nightclub. I love to shop. Yes. Shopping's the best. Retail therapy is real. That's real.
Starting point is 00:59:30 It's real. That's really healing. That's real to me. Me too. Yeah. It is. Hey, Jake. This girl that lives in the door across remarks.
Starting point is 00:59:37 keeps asking to get ready and go to parties and events with me and my best friend. We are barely friends with her, but I feel so bad saying no. It honestly impacts our environment every time because it's awkward, and we have to make a lot of conversation. So you're meeting a new person. How do we solve this without being mean to her? You don't. Just hang out with the girl.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Just like go leave the room and never let her see you. I would take off at a time. Oh, you wouldn't hang out with her. Oh, was she like... They're like, I feel bad. This girl clearly doesn't have many friends. Oh, just go. Go for an hour and then take off.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Yeah. To go the bath you don't feel good. But go. Yeah, right? Like it probably makes her day. Yeah, go, yes. My boyfriend was blacked out on a night out and literally got arrested for assaulting an officer.
Starting point is 01:00:13 This is so incredibly out of character for him as he pretty much never drinks. He handled it well and paid his own bill. Good, well, I'm glad. We've been together almost a year. Is this a red flag or a one-off incident? Oh, I mean, I would consider it a red flag, but give him another try.
Starting point is 01:00:30 You never know. Red flag, though. It's an assaulting officer. What do you think? That's a big deal. Probably. Probably, but maybe he was just drunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Just keep the alcohol away from him. Yeah, maybe he's bad with alcohol. Yeah. Well, Alicia, what did we learn today? I learned so much about different people, but I also learned that you've never had a grinder. You didn't know what a grinder was. You got to have a pizza chip.
Starting point is 01:00:52 I'm about to house this the second we're done. I think you're so incredible. And I'm so happy that you love the housewives of Rhode Island. It is the best show on television. If you haven't seen it, watch it. I won't watch it, so that's why. Right, right. Good. You shouldn't.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Well, you probably have. actually should. Yeah. Right? Because for the reunion, don't you have to like prep? Yes. Yeah. I had to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You sat right next to Andy though, I saw. I did. I like Andy. I love Andy. Yeah. He's awesome. I was like so nervous when I first met him. I was like, oh my God. Like I was like starstruck. And then I was like he's so nice. Yeah. Yeah. He's awesome. Yeah. Bye Pussies. I love you all. Thank you for being a pussy. I have to call someone. I have to call Manny. Who's Manny? FaceTime Manny. Is this about me? Is this about me?
Starting point is 01:01:51 Hi! Where are you? Why aren't you here? Why aren't you here? Hi! We have pizza chicks! My grandma is visiting. I'm literally on my way to go get her lunch! Oh my god, you're so cute! I love that you love your grandma. You're so cute. I love my grandma but I also love you. I'll meet you one time. We have to meet. And I'm so sad. No.
Starting point is 01:02:15 What kind of dog? Oh, why are you talking to my dog? I love dogs. No, you don't know what I am like what dogs. I'll go to, I will die. What kind of dog? I'm so sorry. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:02:28 It was a Chihuahua Italian Greyhound mix. That's my dog, Wolfie. Why are you doing this? Billy, a Chihuahoooo. That's my dog. I am so sorry. I live for that dog. Don't do this to me.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Wolfie. What was your dog's name? I'm so sorry. How old? He was 15. Oh, 15's a good age, though. I feel, I have felt how, okay. He was 16.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Oh, 16. So we lived a good life. Okay, Mani, well, we love you. Mani, we love you. Sorry about that dog. I love you both. Love you, man. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Bye.

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