Therapuss with Jake Shane - Session 131: Belmont Cameli

Episode Date: July 9, 2026

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You usually lead the way. Well, let's talk about how a year ago, it was almost a year ago now where we first podcasted together. It was. Why are you nervous? Are you nervous? You guys just made me. I'm not nervous.

You guys just get awkward with each other. No, we don't. You make it awkward. Okay, then I'll stop being awkward. Well, and I saw the invite last night. We did and it was incredible. It was actually amazing. It moved me.

It moves me. Well, it's cool to know things. Yeah. Okay, so tell me. It's about just like a couple, and they have another couple over for dinner. It just proves that love is hard. Does air conditioning work in here?

I'm like sweat. Like, not even kidding. I don't really have anything you're saying. Are you going to wear that hat all day? Obviously, yeah. I kind of want to keep it out of your closet. That's so annoying. I really like that.

It looks really cute on you, though, no? It looks better on you than it does on me, but it's annoying. I have to hide my pimple. No, you absolutely cannot keep that hot. Will has a huge pimple on his forehead. Have y'all met him yet? I actually, it's like the first thing I saw when you walked into the door. I'm kidding.

Cass is being mean to me today. Today you've been mean. I haven't. You've been mean to me. It's because you haven't chicken your juice. That's why. Let's get into it. Start asking questions.

Okay. Did you ask us about our relationship? Oh yeah. How is your relationship? It's going okay. It's going okay. We've honestly fought a lot. We have bad times.

We've fought a lot recently. We have. I think that jealousy has come into play recently. It has. Cass has found somebody who she deems her comfort figure, and that used to be me. And it's tough. Well, how's your sex life been? I don't like when you talk about this.

A little stagnant. Okay. Well. Would you agree? Yeah. Oh, let's talk about your birthday. Oh, my birthday. So this is a good place to air this out.

Basically, what happened was it was the final, it was basically, it was basically, it was basically, Basically, everyone knew the Knicks were going to win this game. And so I was playing it at my pregame that I had for Cassidy's birthday. Well, they didn't know the Knicks were going to win. Yeah. Yeah, but like there was a, that's why it was such a good game. But can I intervene really quickly? I gave you the go on having, on having the Knicks game on during my pregame.

Like, obviously it was unfortunate. It was the same night as my birthday. I honestly wanted to cancel my birthday. But anyway, I gave you the go. But then what I wasn't okay with is when we got the venue, that we were an hour and a half late to already. To be fair, we heard screams from the bar. We heard screams from down the street.

That's fine. But the principle of it all is like, come and get me. Yeah. But we knew you. We didn't want to miss a moment of the game and it was at the very end. And we knew you would have sat there for 10 minutes being like, wait, what? No, I wouldn't have. You wouldn't have left.

Cassie, you would not have left. There was no one at my birthday. Like, during the time when we went up, Basically, everyone loved me. And it was Jake's idea. Because he gathered everyone to go. No, I did it. You're making it seem calculated.

We were gutting in. It was. We got booted from the limo, lest we forget. Jake didn't. You did. And I, no, but. How did you end up at the bar with me? Because we just all pulled up at the same time.

But I was, I wanted to stay with you. So that's also why I was upset. I was literally said to you, do you want me to stay? And everyone's like, cast. Okay, basically, long story short, we're at the bar. I go outside to finish watching the end. There's three minutes left in this game.

Literally three minutes left. Three minutes left. It's about to be history. The next... Well, turn your sound off, please. It's really inappropriate. It's like about to be history where there's... The city is alive.

Like, the city is actually, like, blood is pumping through the city. Please listen to me. Please. Because every time I trigger him so hard and he gets so passionate about why. He took everyone to go watch it. I didn't take everyone to go watch it. The only person I took was Julia.

He's about to burst. The only person I took was Julia. I said, come on, we're from New York. We have to experience this. And I was already there. Will was already there. We ran out. I was like, oh my God, Will.

And then I was like, put me out your shoulders. And then I got on Will's shoulders. And then we walked back into Cassidy's birthday. Dun, done, dun, done. It wasn't. Nan. Nan. You know.

You knew exactly what you were walking in. Jake and I are in the corner like this. Will said, let me talk to her. Let me talk to her. She had bodyguards around her. I said, please, I need a moment. I said, I'm sorry.

I'm Peyton's rubbing your back. It's giving you like this. Payne kept giving you the sting face. Like, literally like you did something. No, but she loved that she had your back. She did. She was the only one who did. I left my birthday saying,

Peyton is the only loyal friend. Like, everything. thing you did is fine. It's just like, grab me. It was five minutes. Jake, know it. I was sitting at the table alone on my birthday for at least 20 minutes. And I'm texting the group chat saying, where the fuck is everyone?

And I got someone coming up to me being like, babe, where is everyone? Like, do you even have friends? Like, we're an hour and a half late to my birthday already. Where is everyone? And I get hit. With the worst question on your birthday, basically asking, did anyone care to show up for your birthday?

And I'm looking around, like, scratching my head like, fuck, like someone get me a vodka soda right now. Like, I was ripping shots. And we question, and we wonder why I don't remember one single thing about my birthday. Because you tormented me. I did not torment you. For 20 minutes in the beginning.

And I said, I was sorry. I said, look, it was a spur of the moment decision. But once I was there, you're there. It was like a crowd. It was like a general mission. It was on birthday. No, it was. It was.

So fun. And I stayed with you till the very end. So did I. No. Yes, I did. You guys, it was 4 a.m. You're right. But we did the nightcap.

Well, Will and I ended up together. But like, that's always the case. Yeah. I mean, they made out. They won't let me put the clip on the screen. Wait, no. It was too real. I still haven't watched the clip.

I haven't either. I refuse. I'm going to show you guys. Okay, honestly. Okay. Okay. Show us. Yeah, I've, five seconds.

Okay. I'm nervous. Wait, I don't know if I want to see y'all in all honesty. Yeah. Wait, wait. Wait, wait. So tonight on Therapus, we have Belmont Camelli. From off campus.

Did you guys watch Off Campus? Wait. It's the best show I've ever seen in my life. Thank you, Will, Cass for the intro. Love you. Enjoy the episode. Love you, Pussies. Hi.

Hi. We have Belmont Camelli on Therapest today. Hi, Jake. Hi. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm so good.

What are you in town for? I'm in town briefly for Obsessed Fest, which we concluded yesterday with Amazon, and then various other meetings and fun things. Are you having fun? Yeah, I am. The whole cast is here. We had a really good time the last couple days. And we got to meet a lot of the actors on some of the other Amazon romance shows coming out to,

and they're all very sweet. We had a good time. Anyone in particular that you were like, oh, gee. Yeah, well, Matt Cornett's a buddy of mine. He just had every year after come out. They just announced a second season for his show, so I'm very happy for him and that grew. Yeah, everybody was really pleasant.

Okay. What's up with you? I don't know. I just got off a flight. My flight got delayed. I know. I was so miserable about it. But, like, you know what?

Like, trust the higher power because I'm so happy that I flew this morning as opposed to last night. It's good. Were you waiting in an airport for this flight or you got to hang out? No. And by the way, I knew I knew I was going to be waiting in the airport. because there was two flights. There was a Jet Blue flight and there was a Delta flight.

The Delta flight was taking off at 7 a.m. And the Jet Blue flight was taking off at 11. It kept moving. It was like 8, 10, 11. I said, if I go to the airport right now, I will be here overnight. Yeah. And so I took Delta. You have good foresight.

I do have good foresight. Well done. How's season two going? We're almost finished with the first two episodes of season two. We've read the first half of the episode, so we've read four. It's really good. How different is it from the books? Well, it's interesting because, like, you know, in a way, the featured couple is similar to the books.

So, you know, like, there's a different featured couple each season. Oh! Yes, which is cool. But the show is sometimes in amalgamation. You'll have scenes from different books in one season. And we did that kind of last year, too. There were some scenes from different books that made it into season one. Season two will probably be the same way.

Okay. So, yeah, it's very like the books. but it's dissimilar in some ways too. Okay. But yeah, I mean, it's just like getting back there and doing table reads is just a really nice reminder that our show is in the right hands because it's every time we get one of these scripts, I mean, they're so well written.

And like our show really has a visual language now. And it's been fun to see that kind of what we established in season one get translated into like a really like firm identity for, season two. So it's like when we're reading these scripts, are like, oh man, like this is off-campus. It's really cool. Oh, so yeah, you feel more in it. Yeah. More comfortable. Yes.

More established. Yeah, and it's like the ensemble is really alive in this upcoming season. Everybody has stuff going on all together, which is really fun. Have you read the books? I've read some of the books. Well, I've read my book. Do you read in general? Not much.

Neither do I. I hate reading. I enjoy reading. It's just, it's kind of like anything, you know, it's like, The hardest part is just sitting down with a book. I can't do that. I don't get there. When's the last book you read that wasn't off campus?

I read earlier this year. I took a vacation to Mexico and I read Kurt Vonnegut, but Kat's Cradle, which was really good. So you do read? No, no. This is just, this is actually just convenient for me. I couldn't name one author if you had a gun to my head. Besides, who's the one with all the Netflix shows?

No, what's his name? Harley Cobain. Oh, see, I don't know who that is. Yes, he's like the Stephen King of England. Incredible. Yeah, but he writes thriller instead of... King, another novel. Do you think you would recognize him if you saw him in the street?

I would. I would. I'd be like, wait, that's... Looks so familiar. Uh-huh. Who is that? And he would probably have this incredible bravado. When do you see people like that, do you say hi to folks? I did once.

Okay, who wasn't? It was Ryan Beattie. Who? He is a singer-songwriter. Yeah. He's amazing. Cool. amazing and I couldn't help myself

and I had to say like I just die for you That's sweet. Have you ever done that? I stood next to Orlando Bloom once. Where? It was like Peter Jackson did like a Beatles documentary years ago. I need to start watching these fucking Beatles documentaries. It's good.

It's colorized. It's like old original footage that was black and white that's been like it re-edited and colorized and stuff. It was a good documentary. But there was like a premiere for it at the who's the fellow that did the Muppets, and there's that studio on La Brea. Jim Henson.

Jim Henson Studios. Yeah. This was years ago. And I, Beck was performing doing covers of Beatles songs. And then I looked over and I was staying next to Orlando Bloom, and I was like, that's cool.

Right. And he was very handsome. He is so handsome. Yeah. The most handsome. I didn't say hi, though. Yeah, well, that makes sense. Because it's like, what do you say?

I think I was wearing like purple corduroys at the time or something. Okay. So I wasn't introducing myself. You don't like purple corduroys? Not as much anymore. Right. I used to have corduroys in like every color. Really?

Yeah. I've had eras. Just like out of like, okay, tell me about your eras. Okay, so, well, I mean, it started out. When I was in high school, I wore, I did bow tie Tuesdays with one of my teachers. And we really thought it was going to catch on, man. And we were like, everyone was, you know, come on, dude, wear bow ties Tuesday, you know, like dress up a little bit. School.

Oh, okay. Actually, I guess this was junior high. And we did it for a couple years. So middle school? Middle school. But you know what? And middle school was a real era. I remember being in my counselor's office where I found myself quite a bit in middle school.

And I had been trying a fedora on ironically as an outfit choice to school. At like 6.30 in the morning, you know, we'd all be there like and I would have a fedora on already. You're creative. I was trying stuff. I've always tried stuff. And I remember I'll never forget saying to Mrs. Kusack, my counselor, I just want to be the guy who can wear a fedora and be left alone about it. Okay, so you just didn't want people to, like, give you shit about the fedora,

but you knew that they would give you shit about the fedora. I guess own it in a way where nobody could say shit to me about it. But I wasn't bought in enough, I guess. Well, clearly, because you had to go to the guy's counselor's office to talk about the fedora. But did you eventually, like, have enough faith in the fedora? No, I think I retired the fedora. And then you did bow tie Tuesdays. And I did bow tie Tuesdays and I was trying a lot of bomber jackets back then.

You know what? I've noticed about myself, a bomber jacket really does not look good on me. The bomber jacket's universal. Everybody tries a bomber jacket once, you know? I've seen you in bomber jackets. You look good in bomber jackets because you're tall. Thanks for saying so. Of course.

When I wear a bomber jacket, it makes me look fat. No. Yes. No, it doesn't. Yes, it does. That and leather jackets. I can't wear leather jackets. Leather jackets are honestly tough.

They're all different shapes, and some of them are so, like, I am this shape. You know what I mean? You be like boxy? Yes, boxy and it really sticking to it. Is it true you watch reality television? Ultimately, yes, but not a lot of it. What do you watch? Summer House has been my show.

Just because of the show. the whole to-do. Actually, yeah. No, I started watching season 10, and then the to-do happened. That's God. That's literally God. You said it. I came in at a good time, I guess.

But it was interesting because I got into Summer House and, like, they'd been doing it for a decade. Right. And so I got, like, Kyle and Amanda, like, 10 years into their relationship. And I was like, what is up with these two? I only watched a reunion. Okay. Really? Yeah.

What's that about? I just never gone into Summer House. I'm a housewife's guy. Okay, okay, I've seen some housewives. What's you seen? I think I've seen some Salt Lake City, which is a popular one, right? My favorite. That's a lot of favorites.

I think my sister's favorite, too. My favorite. Okay, I've seen some of that, and that's not as palatable for me. Oh, wait, you have siblings? Yes. How many siblings? I have two siblings. I'm the middle child.

Wow. And what do they think about everything that's happened? I think it's good and cool. we're very close and I miss them a lot actually they think it's just kind of crazy I mean like my so I have an older brother and a younger sister and like yesterday I sent a screenshot of my lock screen

which was a notification from both the Chicago Bears and the Chicago Blackhawks who had been messaging me on Instagram and I sent it to Patrick and I was like this is my life now and he was like I don't even don't even tell me that oh that it is it didn't happened quite fast. Yeah, it really did. Were you expecting that at all? Um, no, no, no, no. I mean, I, I, and I think we really believed in the show. Um, we, we knew we were making something special, but, um, the way that it's had this kind of cultural moment, I think has surprised all of us.

Yeah, it, it's amazing. Yeah, but it's been cool, you know, like I've, I've gotten to, you know, I've gotten closer with my favorite sports teams now and like, I'll go get to watch Bears games, hopefully from like the sideline this fall and um you know like i've done some stuff with like the chicago blackhawks like a big sports fan in chicago oh that's so fun yeah i love them i got caught a lot of games um this winter um and now you know i'm building a bit of a relationship with them which is really cool i'm super excited can you like throw the first puck yeah it's um well i threw the first pitch for the chicago white socks i saw that which was really really fun um and the equivalent that's okay I'm sorry, I couldn't lie, I'm a frugal.

Why did you say? I mean, it was like, it wasn't a huge... I was going to be alive, I'm so sorry. It's okay. I mean, I appreciate your honesty. So you threw the first pitch for the White Sox? Yeah. They're great, by the way.

I remember when I was a kid and my dad is a big Yankees fan. It would always be the White Sox and the Yankees would always be head and head. Yes. Yeah, back then they were. The White Sox have been historically terrible. for the previous three years. The White Sox actually recently, two years ago, set a record for the most losses in a season. In all of baseball history, as you know, baseball has been around for a long time.

Maybe that's what I remember. Maybe I remember them being bad. Yes, they were bad, but they're having a really good season right now. Oh, good for them. Yes, I'm very happy. Because of you? Well, after I threw the first pitch out, they've been on a tear. You brought the good energy.

Yeah, and we have the Pope on our side, too. The Pope is a Chicago White Sox fan. The Pope's from Chicago. What? The Pope? The Pope isn't from, where's the Pope? Well, the Pope, where does the Pope reside? Currently in the Vatican.

In Italy. In Italy. So he's not Italian. Actually, I assume he's Italian because he's from Chicago, but he's, he looks like the Pope. You know, when you picture the Pope, that's it. No, no, no, no. And I've seen the film. Conclave?

Conclave. Yes. Conclave. So I've seen the film. So I remember the Black Smoke and all that. But he's the first American Pope, I believe. He's from Chicago. That's what, I think that's what jarred me so much.

Yes, it is a little. It's, that's a new thing. So what's his vibe all about? Mostly White Sox baseball, as far as I can tell. Okay. You know why? I know the Vatican because they went there in Twilight. Yes, they did.

I watched that for the first time this year. What? Yeah, I know. You had just watched Twilight for the first time? I've only seen the first two, but I watched them, I believe, back to back. My God, the last one's the best one. I know, I really need to get through this year. So you don't know what happens in the last one?

How many are? Three or four. Five. Oh. And the fifth is the best one? You don't even understand. I saw that in theaters. So what you're about to see...

Holy shit. Has anyone out there seen the fifth? So there is a part in the fifth. I'm just gonna say there's a part. Okay. On my full body chose. Like remembering being in the theater, I was 13 years old.

Yeah. And the entire theater just going, who! Holy shit. You know, honestly, I don't think I know what this moment is. You don't because you can't know. Or else the whole movie's ruined. I don't know what it is.

I do know that there's a pregnancy coming up. Oh, yeah, the AI baby. Yes, this is what I'm really looking forward to. Or CGI. Before AI, there was CGI. That's right. And it was a CGI. It's a CGI baby.

And you, by the way, you can tell that shit is CGI. The baby is like literally floating in her arms. And why do you think they couldn't use a real baby for that? It was a hot topic at the time. It wasn't one I was tab. into. Okay. But it was very confusing.

Is there, is it the baby like half vampire or half? Yes, the baby is half vampire, but it doesn't make sense. And by the way, when she gives birth, this is what I've heard about.

Because just like imagine giving birth to a monster. Right, right. Like, you know what I mean? Because that's what vampires are at the end of the day. They're monsters. Holy shit.

That's a real slant against vampires. Question. Yes. Was off campus, did it start production? Was it in production? in production prior to heated rivalry. How did you get there from vampires?

Because, and I'll tell you why, because the hockey obsession we have as a culture right now was similar to the vampire obsession we had back then. Okay. Yeah, that's a good parallel. So it went vampires, young teen dystopian, so you had like,

divergent, hunger games, now you have hockey. Right. So. Oh, that's cool. When did off-campus start to get, to production. We started production in May of last summer, but we, Louisa, our creator and showrunner, started developing it, like, I think two years before that. Oh, wow. So before he did rivalry.

We had been developing, and I don't know, I don't exactly recall when they shot. It might have been last summer. Around the same time that we were shooting as well. Yeah. Wow. Have you guys spoken to any of them? Yeah, Hudson and I have correspondence. Well, we both use Ica Flores, who's our groomer. Oh.

Our hair and face. Well, you know, we both use the same stylist. Yes, we do. Sydney. Hi, Sydney. Hi, Sydney. I've been with Sydney since day one. And that's kind of since for how long? Well, way after the fedora, but

but like since I got my first job where I needed a stylist when I did Save by the Bell in 2020. I think we started working together. What? Oh, wait. So you've known it's any longer than me. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, Jake. I thought this was a recent thing. No, no. Sidney's been dressing me since, yeah, the very beginning. She is the best. Well, Belmont, what are you therapists about today? Geez, you know?

I'm hungry and I'm tired, Jake. Oh, okay. Well, so we can get you food if you want. Can get you a Celsius. Honestly, beyond that, I'm not really too therapist about anything. Oh, well, let me tell you about mine. Please. I am so addicted to weed, and I know it's a problem.

Are you? Yes. Oh, my God, dude, let's talk about that. I used to be addicted to weed. What happened? How did you stop? I can't stop. It's all I think about it.

I wake up, I'm like, I want to smoke right now. And by the way, I took a break for nine months. I took a break for nine months. And then all of a sudden, this guy was like, do you want to smoke? I was like, yeah, I do actually. I was nine months sober at the time and I did it and I've been on the wagon ever since. What is it like when you're high? Okay, so some may say I'm the best high in America.

Whoa, okay. Some may say, Louise will say, that's not true. Louise will say I'm the worst, but that's not true. She's wrong. I am the best high in America. It gets to a point, though, after the first, to the first 10 minutes, if you're, if we get high, Well, you don't smoke anymore. If we got high together, the first 10 minutes are bliss.

For you or for everybody? Okay. It is like a show for the ages that I'll put on. Like, it is like everything lands. If the joke doesn't land, I acknowledge that it doesn't land. And then everyone's a laugh. It's so good. Yep.

Then the next like two hours are really bad. Also for everybody. Yeah. Okay. So you've. So you've. 10 good minutes. Yes.

And then you have two hours of it not being good until it. It's like I want to like crawl out of my body and my skin. This is why I said to stop. You know what I mean? I couldn't do it anymore. Is your frontal lobe fully developed? It is. Yes, it is.

And congratulations, by the way. Thank you so much. And it's so funny you say that because the other day it fully developed. Did you hear it click into place? I just was walking when and I was like, oh. It's kind of like that. And I was like, oh, and I called Louise, and I was like, oh, my God. I just realized something.

Oh, my God. Yeah. And she was like, no, yeah. It is like that. But my Saturn is returning. And I know that because my body is starting to hurt. Your Saturn is returning. How old are you?

28 years old. Oh, yours is in the midst of it. Well, my frontal lobe is. No, but your Saturn is returning. Does that have to do? That's not the brain also. Oh, no. But so basically

Do we all have a Saturn? Louise, please. Saturn is in the same place every 28 to 30 years as where it was when you were first born. So it's like, I mean, every time I explain it, I'm like, am I explaining it exactly?

So basically when you turn 27, everything started to change. It's a Casey Muskart song. Everything starts to change. Everything starts to change. And, you, You get, like, sent in, like, you get presented with a bunch of decisions and their hard decisions and life, like, just kind of sucks dick for three years. Oh.

But in your case, it's going great. No, that happened to me a little earlier. Okay. For some people, it happens earlier for me. I don't know. My wrist hurts. My back hurts. Like, I'm, like, feeling it in my body.

Like, I think my Saturn is coming. Okay. And so that's when it comes back around to the same place that it once was. When you were born. Right. Basically, just, like, realigning your life being, like, what do you need? What's happened to your wrist?

I have Dequarevins tendonitis. Okay. It's basically when the tendon is really inflamed. And it, like, so right now it's, like, fine. But, like, a week ago, if I went like this, this right here, like that, the tendon, I think that's what that is, pops over the muscle. Oh, that sounds painful. It feels like someone's lighting a match to your tendon as it's going to. going over the muscle.

I'm sorry. Oh, no, it's okay. I just made it my whole personality for like a month, but it's fine. Yeah. Because is this affecting your routine? Yeah. Jake, you've been in the gym like nobody's business, brother.

Yeah. How do you know that? Jake, I follow you on Instagram, you dinghies. I know. I have been in the gym, okay? Yeah, you have. How long has your fitness journey been going on now? Three years.

Right. And it's very humbling to see before and after. So I was like, you know. Yeah. That's what it's all about. I was... Progress. I was in the gym.

And I was doing pull-ups. Yeah. And my wrist hurt one morning, and I knew I should have just, like, let it go. But I kept doing them. Okay. And then I got, like, a massage on the wrist, which made it kind of worse. And then... A good old wrist massage.

And then I started traveling. And then once I started traveling, it was game over. I got a cortisone shot traveled the next day, so the shot didn't do shit. Because, like, also... Well, I went to the first doctor, and the first doctor was like, here's your cortisone shot and here's steroids. And then I went to his second doctor, and he was like he gave you a shot in, like, the most random place of your arms.

But he was really hot, the first one. Right. So I was complaining. Thank you, sir. I may have an honor. But now the cortisol shot is really working, so I'm going to start working out again tomorrow. Great. But I've been smoking a lot, so I'm really out of breath.

And so it's going to be hard to get back in there. But I'm going to go back in. Okay, let's go back real quick. And I'll tell you how I stopped full stop smoking weed. Tell me what happened. So I don't know what happened because I had been smoking weed a lot, like pretty much daily for a very long time since like, you know, high school. And then at some point, I guess this was when I was 23. Shit.

No, no, no. It was later than that. It was around 24, 25 when that's when I stopped. When every time. And this was like nightly, you know, because it's routine. I would like, I would just freak out. I would like feel my bones in my body and like be like you know I would have the classic paranoia. Yeah.

It was like every single time. And it was kind of like you where the first, you know, 10 minutes was like, oohie, very exciting. Yeah. And the rest was like really kind of unbearable. So I couldn't do it anymore. On New Year's Eve, I smoked all the weed in the house altogether, got really scared, really reminded myself why I'm not doing this anymore. And then for like a week, it was tough. Like at the end of the day, you know, when I'd done all my stuff, like not to.

to spark up a joint. All you want to do is smoke. But it only took a week, maybe 10 days. I know, I know. And you've done it before. I think I'm going to stop when I go to Paris. Does getting high affect your dreams? I don't dream.

Okay, see, this is it. When I was smoking weed, I never dreamed. And when I, like in your nine months, did you start dreaming more? Yeah, and I have the worst fucking dreams. I have dreams that my teeth are falling out. I have dreams that my bones are being pulled from me. Pretty sure Louise was pulling my bones once. Pulling your bones.

Yes, I think you were. That's terrible. Yes, pulling them apart. Do you have any good dreams? What? Do you have any good dreams? Never. I never have a good dream.

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When I'm at home, I don't ever have the TV on. You got to turn it on. What do I watch? Widows Bay. Oh, I heard this is good. It's fucking fantastic. Yeah?

Fantastic. Hell yeah. It's the best show on television. Whoa! Special on television. Okay. It's funny, it's scary. It's with Matthew Reese.

Yep. Who's just to die for. Yeah. Have you ever seen Homeland? Nope. There's a couple shows that I really like, but they only come out every so often. Okay. The severance is...

Oh, if you love severance, then you need to watch Widows Bay. Yeah? It's like the same type of spooky, funny vibe. Okay, great. And it's both on Apple TV Plus. Yeah, yeah. What type of show do you like? Because I'll give you a show to watch right now.

I like a really hard comedy jokes per minute. 30 minute episodic comedy. Oh, you should watch hacks. I haven't seen hacks. You should watch hacks. Hax is like one of the funniest shows on television. Okay, yes. Watch hacks.

Have you seen girls? I've seen some of girls. I think we have to watch the whole thing. Yes, I do. Yeah, yeah. I think that's about it for me. Yeah, and then I like a big, heady drama.

Like drama in what sense? Like supernatural? No. Well, I guess like, like an Adam McKay, like, kind of like Severance being a good example or like madman or like like an intellectual drama. Really?

Yeah. I think you should. It's great. Apparently it's amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People love it. Yeah. I just never got it.

Did you try it? Did you try it and didn't get it? I tried episode one. Uh-huh. And I said, okay. My parents were like, well, you have to go to bed. We need to watch Mad Men. And I was like, what are you waiting?

Like, what's going on? That's so, because every episode I would watch was so, like, melancholy. and like solemn and like where's the there's nothing exciting happening or have you seen like have you seen breaking bad of course yeah and did you see better call sol no and i've heard it's better it's it's just as good if not better what do you mean it's fucking incredible why tell me why um well so bob odenkirk i mean you love him in that role in breaking bad yes um he went to my high school by the way okay he's saw he saw all day every day baby. Okay.

And Ray Sehorn is phenomenal in it. And I mean, all the performances are great. But it tells the story of Saul kind of backwards. It starts way before you meet him in Breaking Bad. And so, like, his name isn't Saul Goodman when you meet him. What? No, no, no, no, no, no. He's...

Fake name? Yeah, he's got a lot going on before he gets to the point where you meet him in Breaking Bad. And so it's all of that. And it's phenomenally... I mean, it's Vince Gilligan, too. It's so well written. So what type of music do you listen to? All kinds of music.

Tell me. Are you Spotify or Apple Music? Oh, Spotify. Right? Yeah. I never understood Apple Music. Well, I got Spotify like when there was like a student discount back in the day. I got it in 2013.

Yeah, probably right around then. Yeah. I'm a Spotify guy. I listen to everything. I listen to all sorts of stuff all the time. What are you listening to right now? I'm listening to a new artist that I just can't get enough of. Their name is,

Blue Brigada. Okay. Two fellows from New Zealand that are now out of New York. And they just make some like really fucking solid alternative rock jams. Like melodic? Some stuff. Yeah, some stuff. But it's like, it's just like good, like, it's just solid alt rock.

Well, else would you consider alt rock? I don't know. Like Vampire Weekend wouldn't be considered old rock. Yeah. Oh, then I would like them. I love, do you like Vampire Weekend? I love. I love vampire one of the best days of live live music I've ever seen.

Oh, I'm so jealous. I'm so jealous. Just hear me out. I'm hearing you out. It was at Lalabalooza in Chicago. Of course it was. And it was a full day. We spent the whole day at the stage, didn't leave to pee or anything. And the first up, the first act up was Vampire Weekend, and then Two-Dore Cinema Club, and then Phoenix headlined, all on the same stage.

And by the end of the day, we were, like, right up front for Phoenix. And it was one of the greatest. concert experiences I've ever had. Are you fans of those other two bands, too? Yes. What is Tudor Cinema Club saying that I just love? I can't tell it's what you know. Yes!

I love that song. I love that song. How was it live? It was amazing. I mean, all of it was great. Vampire Weekend. Did they... They do it for me every time.

Me too. What's your favorite album? I should know the names. Cape Cod, Quasca Cusa. Is that the name of the song or also an album? That's off their first or second. Yeah. I think it's their third album,

Modern Vampires of the City or whatever. Yeah. Changed my life. Yeah, they're incredible. Changed my life. Do you know the song, Step? Yeah, of course. I know their whole...

Did they do that at Lollapaluta? I don't recall. This would have been like over 10 years ago. Oh, so maybe no. But Stepp is one of my favorite songs of all time. I actually just kind of had... It's a good... It's a great song.

Yeah. I just had a similar out-of-body experience at a concert. I saw the strokes. Nice. I've seen the strokes as well. They're amazing. Also at Laopalooza, and they're fantastic. They have new stuff out, I think.

They do, and it's really good. Yeah? So fucking good. Does Spotify, are there a couple songs on Spotify that Spotify just, like, is like, this is your favorite song and I'm going to put it on every single playlist that you make. Every time you hit GoTo Radio, it's like, here's this song again, here's this song again. Does that happen to you? No, because I'm a cueer.

Okay. So I'll always cue, but if it go, and if it goes to like, Like, no, and I haven't honestly, are you talking about the stuff that they'll like always auto play? Yes. What's yours? Like one of mine is the adults are talking. Best song. Which I love, I love.

But honestly, like Spotify plays it for me every single day. Well, because they know you. But it's almost like, don't, but instead of knowing me so well, try to get to know me, you know, like ask me some questions. Right. Ask questions. Well, I think their version of asking questions is the songs you add to the playlists. Right. In general.

And I'm a bad playlist maker. I only have one playlist every year. And it's the year that I am. So right now I'm 26. So my playlist is called 26. Yeah. I'll send it to you after this. I can't wait to listen to like seven.

It's just all of the, it's like my musical diary. So I've done it since I was 18. That's really cool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Please send it to me. I will. But the 18 one, it went from 18 to 22 because I was at college.

So I just called it USC. Word. And I remember exactly where I was for each, most, most of, like, 20% of the songs. Does they end up being huge playlists, or are you pretty particular about what you keep on there? The USC one is like, at least over a thousand songs. Holy fuck. Because it was over four years. Yeah.

Oh, okay, okay. But then I had 23, 24, 25, and 26. What years? When were you in college? I was in college from 18 to 22. Oh, for what year? Oh, so you went after high school. Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, until you graduated. I was in college from 20. I was in college from 2018 to 22. Right, which by the way I got confused. Right. It's the same answer. I was 18 in 2018. You were born in the year 2000.

I was born in 1999. Oh. At the very end. Tail end, huh? Yeah. Man, wouldn't that have sucked if the world did end and you were just like a couple weeks old? No, it would have been amazing because I wouldn't have known what was happening. Oh, true.

you wouldn't have felt anything. I would have been like, oh, I just died. You'd still be wailing and then. Yeah, I would have just died. Are you scared of death? Honestly, I, I've been scared of death more in a good way, I think. So, I've been thinking about it kind of a lot in the last, I don't know, chapter. Really?

Yeah, yeah. It's come back. I grew up really Catholic. So that was always, I was super fearful of hell. Are you so Catholic? I don't, I'm not practicing. Okay, you're not practicing. But like, do you, like, believe in a God?

Oh, yeah, I believe in a. creator. Yeah. But I'm not, I don't, I don't pray. I feel as well. Yeah.

But I never, like, practiced anything. I'm just like, I know there's some shit up there. Yeah, no doubt. You know what I mean?

There's got to be. And there has to be. Too much shit happened for us to be here for. And that's fine. Yeah. Why are you scared of death? Well, just the permanence,

I think. Uh, yeah. But the presumed permanence. It is permanent. We don't know, though, you know,

could be. I, do you believe in reincarnation? I, listen, I would love, I don't know, but hell yeah. I want to be an animal. I don't.

You know what's fun to think about. What animal would you be, though? I wouldn't. I want to. You could have already been. I want to be reincarnated as a supermodel. Girl. Human.

I want to be reincarnated as a supermodel really badly. And I want to like literally like, oh my God, you are like in my new life. Like, just like you were so pretty. want to be a model and I'd be like oh my god sure and then you know everything just happens after that you want to be reincarnated to an existing living person did you go to college uh very briefly I went for one year where University of Illinois right yeah a verbenna champagne I um in some ways yes and in some ways no got it yeah why'd you drop out uh I did not want to go to college I get that I was a business student I was like a finance major.

And I wanted to be a filmmaker, so I got the fuck out of there. And you just took off and moved to LA? Almost. You know, I moved to the city. I moved to Chicago for a year and a half. And I was modeling then to pay the bills and support myself. And then I got an agent in Chicago and a manager out in L.A., so then I moved to L.A.

Tell me about the audition process for off-campus. Like, what did that look like? It was different for, I think all of us kind of had a different experience doing it. I didn't audition as Garrett until the very last day of auditions. I had met with our showrunners, Louisa and Gina. We zoomed, and they kind of pitched me the season one arc and the character. I had questions for them about their project and we talked about it. And so then they did a chemistry read where there were 28 actors. They cast all six or seven leads in the same day. So a lot of people there were going out for a couple characters.

You know, each role had like four, five actors that were there going out for. It was crazy. But that was my first part of the audition. It was the last part of the process. So I was there until the bitter end. I had to stay and, like, do stuff by myself so they could have tape of me.

Because I hadn't submitted anything yet. Oh, so it was like the Hunger Games. It was just like the Hunger Games. And when somebody was sent home, there was a big gong. Yeah. Yeah. It was a crazy day. I've never I've gotten to the end of audition processes like that before, but that was like, there were so many people

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Do you like to party? Yeah. I love to party. Yeah, I love to party. We like to party. We like to party. What's your drink of choice? Well, it kind of depends.

I'm like, is tonight a tequila night or a whiskey night? And so, like, I had a couple tequila nights lately while I've been in town here. Well, I'm a child, so I drink vodka. Oh, Jake. I know. With lemonade or cranberry? Yes. I do vodka cranberries, vodka lemonade's.

Vodka, okay. And then if I'm like, you know, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, oh, you guys, I'm on a diet. I'll get a vodka soda with a splash of cranberry. Yeah. And then I'll get, well, my ultimate drink. My favorite drink of all time is a vodka red bowl. Yeah. And were you just fucking slugging those at USC?

No, I was slugging AMFs. so do you not do you know what can i tell you what an amf is yeah it's called an audios motherfucker oh okay i don't know what's in them but they were blue you had you ever drink an amf what was your drink like ranch water i don't know what i would drink what it was like no i ams whiskey coax and stuff for me you never did like a long island ice tea no i i i i did but i broke my wrist on a long island ice tea maybe that's is that that that's that's that's why i'm Impetus of this injury? Yeah.

On a Long Island ice tea? I was in high school. I drank a bunch of Long Island iced teas at this place. Oh, but you were on a Long Island ice tea. I was, yeah. Yeah. And I went on my friend's shoulders in the street and fell and broke my wrist. And they were like, you're fine.

And this lady walked by us and was like, are you okay? Your wrist is bruised and swollen and big. And then I got in the car cab and we drove to the hospital. And then my friends left me. And then my parents met me and my mom was like, oh my God, are you okay? And I was like, I'm drunk. And I've never in my life seen her so mad ever in my entire life. Because she thought someone was going to call social services because they would think that she gave me the alcohol.

And they had to give me like morphine for the pain. But I had to tell them I was drunk. Oh. And then I threw up all over the doctor. Did you really? Yeah. He snapped my bone back in the place. And I went, bleh.

And I threw up all over the doctor. Was he hot or no? You know? Actually, I think he was bad looking. Okay. It kind of makes it worse. Yeah. I don't think he was bad looking, but bone shit bugs me the fuck out.

I can do needles. I'm actually so good with needles. Me too. Really? Yeah, yeah. Do you get IVs a lot? No. I mean, I'll, I give blood once in a while, and then I get, you know, like, you know, like, you know, I have the physical every year.

Yeah. That's needles. You give blood for, like, the greater good? Sometimes. Just like, you wake up, you're like, I want to give blood today. Yeah. I'll be making blood all the time, too. Oh, what?

What do you mean you be making blood? We're like currently in the throes of making a bunch of blood. Right now. As we sit here speaking to each other, yeah. Have you broken bones besides your wrist? Just my wrist. Okay. Have you broken bones?

I've broken a lot of bones, yeah. What bones? Both of my clavicles. What's a clavicle? The collar bone. Is that why he calls it clavicular? I think so. Right?

Right? Yeah. But like, the clavicle. I mean, but, like, why, why did he pick that?

Both of your collarbones? Doing what skiing? Separately. No, playing, um, playing football, I broke.

Oh, it makes me feel sick. I broke this left one off at the sternum here, like basically right there. And then, um, I broke this one off at the shoulder, a couple years later,

during the pandemic. I was really drunk and I was on a, uh, a kayak. Right. I've also broken both of my ankles and, how? A couple of fingers.

I play, a lot of sports. What sport was your favorite? Wrestling. You wrestled? Yeah, I wrestled. I didn't make the basketball team in eighth grade. Okay. And I really wanted to make the basketball team because basketball's cool. And I didn't really know anything about wrestling. But I got cut from like the B team basketball team in eighth grade. So I was like, fuck it. The only other sport in the winter is wrestling. And then I wrestled and I won conference that year. And I was like, oh, maybe I'm good at this. And I was, how do you win wrestling? You just beat everybody.

But like, what do you? I don't understand, like, what do you? So there's two ways to win in wrestling. You have a team, and, like, each guy wrestles at a different weight class. From, like, in high school, it's for, like... Oh, see, I could never. Because they weigh you in front of everyone, huh? Oh, they'd be weighing you all the time.

Uh-uh. Yeah. I weigh in private. In your boxers. You get all the guys, like, from your team and the other team, and you're in the locker room, and you, like, stand next to the guy you're going to go wrestle in an hour, and, like, he's in his underwear, and, like, you both weigh the exact same amount. and then you go you get out there and eat like a little bar or like you know you have a snack

because you're so so hungry and then you go leave it all out there on the mat man but how do you win you you either win by points or you can pin somebody oh okay pin them on their back where they can't it can't get up was it fun for you i loved it yeah i was like an angry kid so football and wrestling i got to get i like you were an angry kid yeah yeah wait why i was pissed off man at what i just kind of everything i like my mom kept journal from like when we were born until like we were tauts like for the first like two years of our lives and there are entries she's like you're 11 months old every time we tell you know you laugh at us she would like she'd be like dear little devil and I'm like not even a year old yet what's your birthday

uh same as my mom's actually it's February 28th I'm a Pisces I love Pisces me too yeah but Pisces do my best friend is a Pisces and she gets angry too yeah I've I've grown up quite a bit But it's like righteous anger. You're angry for good reason. I was just curious, I think, was the thing. It was like if you told me no, I just wanted to know why. And if I couldn't know why, then I couldn't understand. Yeah, and then you just say, were like, what the fuck?

Yeah, and then I'd just get angry. Were you good at math? Very good at math. I loved math, too. Nice. What was your favorite? I love geometry. That was my favorite.

Oh, okay. That was my least favorite. See, it's pretty polarizing. My favorite was pre-calc. Yeah, pre-calc. It was fun too. I just thought it was like a puzzle. And once I could figure it out, it was just so rewarding to like do.

But I'm not the type of person that would be good at it. So the fact that I got myself to be good at it, I was like, wait, I'm kind of hurt. Did you take math like all through college? No. No, fuck that, right? No. I stopped with calculus in my senior year and I thought calculus was just so boring. Yeah, I get that.

I was a math, I guess I haven't in a while. But during the strikes, I was a math tutor for like some kids, which was really fun. You're lying. No, I was a tutor when I was a little kid. I used to tutor like the other kids down the street that were like a couple years younger than me. How old were the kids that you were tutoring? Like recently? Yeah.

Middle school age or like end of elementary school. Oh my God, did they just love you so much and did you guys have the best time? We had so much fun. Yeah, I mean like half of it was like we would hang out. And the other half was be like, dude, you got to figure out how to do this. It's funny you mention that because I was thinking about my babysitting days because I used to babysit. Yeah. One time I was babysitting this kid and he started crying and she.

his parents so I called his parents to come home and they got really angry at me. And at the time I was like, why are you so angry at me? But now looking back out of it, I'm like, well, of course they're angry at me. They hired me to take care of their kid. And the second something bad happens. I called him to come home. Can you imagine? How old was he? And it's like something bad happened and it's just, it just went to the bathroom.

Yeah, like I was like, stop crying, stop crying. Oh my God. It was so bad. It was so bad. It was like the worst night of my life. The money was not worth it. I'm so sorry. But babysitting is the easiest way to make money.

Yes. And I needed to make money. money because there was nothing going on during the strikes. Nothing. And I love kids, you know. Do you want kids? Totally. Yeah, I can't wait to be a day.

How many? I would like, I'm from a family of three, both of my parents are family of three kids. I like three kids. Okay. Yeah. I'm not like dying on that hill. I want two. Yeah.

Theo and Annabelle. You got. The old are older Annabelle's younger. Great. By the way, those are actually great names. Thank you so much. I'm so ready to tell people when they have stupid name. ideas, but I respect it. Yeah, those are cute. Thank you so much. Theodore. And then Annabelle,

Anna B for short, Theo for short. Because my best friend growing up, well, one of my best friends growing up was named Annabelle, and people would call her Anna B, and I thought it was so she. That's cute. But people, my friend this weekend was like, I actually only see you with one kid, and I think you're a boy dad. And I think it's just Theo. I can really see that. And do you know I'm recently a godfather? Oh, congratulations. Thank you so much. Oh, that's exciting. And I just bought a shirt at a vintage store that says Godfather, and then on the back it says Jeff. I don't know who Jeff is, but... Yeah, but congratulations to Jeff, who's also a godfather.

And to you as well. For being the godfather. Of course. I'm so excited about it. That's really cool. I want to be a godfather. I know. Do you have godparents?

No. I do. It's my aunt, my uncle. Okay. This is great. I feel like I could talk to you all day. What? Yeah.

Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Quit fucking screaming at me. Sorry. What's your, like, favorite thing to do after a long day at set? Like, do you all hang out? Yeah. out all the time.

Really? Yeah. Last year it was a lot of what we called Belmont's house where I would have everybody over and we would do costume parties. That's sweet. Everybody's a little busier this summer, so we haven't even done a Belmont's house yet, but I'll have the party fill in the invite out soon for it. But yeah, we hang.

A lot of times we go to the park or now we go for drives. A lot more one-on-ones this year. I was not to say, does it feel different filming season two with more eyeballs on it? No. What's nice is that like whatever the magic of, making season one was is still very much alive. It's all the same crew. It kind of just feels like we went home and we just like didn't like really skip a beat.

It feels like we were just right back. I think in our personal lives, like we are very aware of the eyeballs. But in the work of acting and performing and like working on this show, that's all the same. Got it. Yeah. Got it. You just don't get to have as much. Yeah.

We're all a little busier now, you know? Like it's giving us some opportunities and like we'll travel a bit more. So what's really nice so far about season two is like I'll pick up Stephen and we'll go for a drive and get coffee or like, you know, like Ella and I will do the same or Jalen and I will go play catch at the park. It's nice. Yeah. And you film in Toronto? Vancouver. Vancouver. So sorry. It's beautiful in the summer there. Oh my God. What's it like? It's gorgeous. There's mountains all over and the ocean right there. And it's warm? Yeah, it's warm. It's really warm in the summer and it's really nice. It rains all the rest of the year except for the summer months when we shoot, which is. You know, that's nice. And how's the food? That's great. Vancouver's a real melting pot of cultures.

There's people from all over. I've been to Vancouver in the summer, actually, the more that I think about it now. Yeah, I bet you have. I haven't. We had a phenomenal, phenomenal meal. Yeah. At some, was it sushi? Was it sushi?

That was one of the best meals of my entire life. Fuck yeah. There's great sushi. Love Vancouver. The shopping is great, too. I bought a great pair of swim trunks there. Holy shit. Yeah.

That I wear it every day. They look good on me, even if I'm fat. What's the insie? on those puppies. They go to here. Oh, it's like seven. Yeah, I wear seven. And everyone's like, you should wear shorter.

You're like a long swim trunk? I do. I'm really insecure about my thighs. Okay. Get a thigh tat. Yes. Right? I wanted to get one so bad and everyone was like, you can't do that.

Do you have a thigh tat? I do have a thigh tat. What is it? It's, do you know the band The National at all? Yes! One of my favorite bands. There's a song called Graceless by them. Hey.

And the bridge is a lyric that says there's a science to walking through windows without you. It's my favorite song. It's kind of hard to explain. But this is an image of like what those, it's like a visual representation of those lyrics. It's here. You'd have to take my pants off to show you. But it's cool. Right.

Okay, I think I'm going to get a thigh top. You really should. I'm going to do it. I mean, thigh tat's a great way to start inching back those trunks and feel good about it. I'm going to get a thigh tat. Hell yeah. Do you have other tattoos? No, I've never gone a tattoo.

Thighs a good place to start. Okay. What should I get? Um, well, I mean, it's crazy. You don't have an octopus tattoo. Yeah. Is that too on brand? It just feels like too, like too much.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe I get, I see the issue with the tap for me is that I'm inherently trying to be cool. So if I'm getting a tattoo, it really needs to reign true to who I am. Okay. Okay. Like, it really needs to reign true to who I am. It can't just be like a number or like like my favorite stroke song because then, you know, like, it's, Like you're just trying to be cool.

But that would, sounds like it would ring true to who you are. I guess. Maybe, maybe I'll get the street I grew up on. The 181. Oh, you get the, like the address. I'll just get 181. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's a good way to start. But like that, like the ones would look weird on a thigh now. No. Okay. 181. Yeah. It's kind of cool. It's symmetrical.

Okay. Yeah, it was good. You could either do that on your thigh or on an arc kind of like, oh. Like, you know, see when people get like numbers on an. arc kind of like along the sternum. That would make you look so fucking tough. Okay, I'm going to get a thigh tie tie.

You should. Sorry. You should. Okay. I'm going to get a thigh tie tie tie. Okay, let's go right after this. Okay. I would.

No, same. I don't have shit going on. Should we go get thigh tats? I have a good artist. Should I? I'm not even kidding with you. Should we go get thigh tats? Yeah, I have an open thigh.

You know what I'm saying? Okay. Let's go get thigh tats. Okay. All text. My mom is going to Kill me.

Okay, but if we go get Thight Tets, we also have to get short swim trunks. Yes. Okay, let's get Thitats. All right,

I'll look into it. We could also just, I mean, we could just go somewhere and no. No, no, no, I want a good artist.

We want good stuff. Yeah, yeah. My memory is non-existent at this point. Same. I cannot for the life of me remember anything about anything. I will even reconnect

with old town friends and completely forget about them, their names, etc. I wrote, all I remember is that this is a person I've met and they proceed to tell me that we used to hang out all the time. I'm actually getting scared. What is wrong with me? Well, a recent study just came out that dementia can start in your 30s.

So I would definitely check there first. Yeah. And look out for, I guess, aluminum. What? Right? What? Wait, what? Don't they say that, like, aluminum in antiperspirants and, like, deodorant and stuff, we'll give you Alzheimer's.

What? I can't. Everything gives you Alzheimer's. Benadryl. you Alzheimer's. Does it? Deodorant gives you Alzheimer's.

I know. Weed gives you all timers. I think you just meant to read or like write or maybe like you have to like do puzzles.

Yeah. Oh it must be the phone. I mean, must be the phone. Yeah. I think so too. I'm so excited to get thy tats. Me too.

She get a phone. Oh my God. Come on. See Nolan like sometimes you really just pick the perfect ones. Oh hell yeah. And it's, he doesn't know.

And it's just like he just it's fate. with you. Kismet. It is. I've been smoking for two years now. Oh, so my advice for that other person is maybe go to a doctor and read and move your brain. Yeah, yeah, just take notes maybe.

I've been smoking for two years now. I'm trying to be better for both my mental and physical health, but I genuinely can't quit. Every night when the clock strikes 9 p.m. I feel like I have to smoke. I've even gone as far as throwing all of my weed away and later found myself digging through the garbage. I did that the other week. Deep down, I know I should quit, but TBH, I love it, help.

This is for you, not me. I mean, in the throes of it. I've been through exactly this thing. You gotta replace a vice with a vice. You gotta do something else. A lot of times a healthy vice is a good alternative. But for me, it was like, okay, if I'm fucking up my lungs,

because I'm smoking weed every single day, I'm gonna target the lungs to be the point of change. So I started doing cardio, which I hated doing. I did not want to do cardio. But then when I went and did cardio and I got done and my lungs fucking hurt, I was like,

okay well, you know, next time when I do this, they won't hurt as bad. Because I've stopped smoking. Because I've stopped smoking. So, like, go use your lungs as a reminder that, like, that's what they're for. That honestly might have been some of the best advice we've ever gotten on this podcast. Literally ever. Because you know when you do cardio and that you've been smoking for a lot and, like, you can, like, taste blood. I know, but I reward my cardio with, like, a smoke.

Okay. Like, when I run a 5K every two weeks and every time I get back, I ever smoke a cigarette or a joint. Okay, so maybe that's not the solution for you. No. It's not. You should just start smoking earlier in the day. Then when it comes 9 p.m., you don't have this whole fucking debacle because you're already high. Maybe I won't smoke tonight.

I'm going to smoke tonight. Now you are. I'm pretty sure my friend doesn't brush her teeth. Ew! It's happened two to three times now where she comes in my car and smells so bad I have to crack the windows. Her tongue often looks very white and caked and it's so gross. How do I kindly bring this up to her? You say your breath smells bad.

If my breast smells bad, Alice will be like your breath stinks. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you brush your teeth. Yeah, honey, that's just not. That's not acceptable. Is this like a new friend? I'm confused. Like if Julia's breath smells like,

your breast smells bad. What kind of friend do you have that you wouldn't tell them when their breath stinks? Like maybe, you know, that only happens with, my number one fear is smelling bad. Yeah. And that's why it smells.

Like, I really don't do well with smells. I hate refrigerators. I hate smelling bad. Okay. I hate cold food that's supposed to be hot and still smells like hot food. Yeah. Doesn't that give you the chills a little bit?

It's gross. Like cold spaghetti. Yeah. And the marinara is all clumped up and you can still smell the marinerar. But you look at it and it's like clumped up and you touch it and it's cold. I honestly, you're making it. I would eat that. You would eat that?

Sounds good. Cold pasta. Whatever. I love cold spaghetti. I can't with you. I can't with you. That actually sounds good. Do you ever smell something and it transports you back to the place that whatever, wherever that used to smell like?

You have like a woof. Any ice cream shop that smells remotely like Ben and Jerry's. I get transported back to Ben and Jerry's when I was a kid. Yeah. And I used to drink out of little water cups. That's cool. Don't you love when that happens? Yeah, it only happens with me with that.

Only with Ben and Jerry's? Yeah. No, it happens with other stuff. You just don't remember. Oh, really? Yeah. When does it happen for you? Whenever I walk into like a big, like a, for some reason,

everywhere smells like the field house at my high school, just like the big gym. Like whenever I walk onto a stage or something, I'd be like, oh man, it feels like I'm at a tournament or something. Okay. That happens a lot. And then sometimes like a I was in a garage in L.A. It wasn't my garage, somebody else's garage, that smelled just like my grandmother's garage in the house that she lived in when we were kids.

And I was like, holy fuck. And it like took me back like that. And then I was like thinking about all the stuff that's in the bins in her garage and like doing laundry out there and stuff. And like it was the exact same smell. And I didn't smell it forever. Yeah. Sometimes I feel that way about like laundry machine. Well, I think I just like how laundry, like, exhaust smells.

Yeah. Interesting. You know? You know, like when the steam comes out? You stand in front of it? Okay, so what tattoos should I get? Just get a hot dog. No, I was going to get a banana peel.

Oh. Because this is my reasoning for it. And I think it makes sense. I have a quote above my bed that says that Mani actually painted. It says if you slip on a banana peel, people will laugh at you. But if you tell people, you slip on a banana peel. it's your laugh. That's nice.

And that's kind of how I live my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, is a banana peep- I'm gonna get a banana peel. I think it's... That's what it's truest to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you do it in, like, the style of, like,

Andy Warhol's banana or... Oh, yes! Oh, my God, yes. But it could be cool. It could be, like, a take on that famous image of instead of it being a banana being, like, the peeled version of it. Would you have it kind of, like,

with the fucking stem up and like the, it like splatted out? Ooh. Or is it a profile with the banana? Well, this is a good question. I would have whatever tattoo artist that you're telling me about, show me. Show me.

Okay, because there's different compositions for this so I'm interested in what you'd prefer. Okay. I'm going to get a banana peel. That's what it is. That's a good idea, actually. I like that's a good quote too. Everyone's like, why do you have a banana peel?

And then I can tell you why. I'll listen to this. It's because I like to laugh at myself before you can laugh at me. Bitch. Bitch. Bitch. Bitch.

Bitch. My mom's boyfriend doesn't flush the toilet at my house. And when he's downstairs, he uses the bathroom near my room. So it's like technically my bathroom. And I constantly find his pee in my toilet. Literally, how do I even bring this up? Help say, you need to flush the toilet. Some of these problems, I'm like, do you just need to be like flush the toilet?

There's a real lack of assertiveness happening with some of these pussies. Yes. I couldn't agree more. Yeah. I mean, really, a lot of these things are solved by one of my favorite things in life, which is speaking plainly. Flush the toilet. Right. You can say your piss is in the toilet, please flush.

Are you a confrontational person? I'm not out there looking for it, but when I find confrontation, I'm very comfortable within it. Okay. Yeah, because I speak plainly. And that's not to be mean. It's not also to be too polite. But like, people need to hear exactly what they need to hear. So it's good to just say things how they are.

Right. So like, you keep peeing in the toilet. And then when I go in there, I'm looking at your pee. Go ahead and flush that puppy. One time when I was on a flight I peed in the toilet Right before, because I always pee right before we take off Because I have like really bad peeing OCD and anxiety

On the airplane or yeah on the airplane I always pee right before we take off Like all like right before the door is closed Right before everyone finishes boarding I'll go pee Sorry you go bored you put your thing upstairs And I go pee and then you go pee Yeah and I forgot to flush I just forgot like I don't know what I was thinking

I didn't really think it mattered that much I don't know and the flight attendant came out And said who didn't flush No way. Right? She said, who didn't flush? And I said, me. I said, I literally, I said, I'm so sorry.

It was me. And everyone looked at me and was like, why would you ever admit that? Right. But I mean, it's not the worst. It was really embarrassing. But good for you. I said, I didn't flush,

and I'm so sorry. And she felt so bad. Right, because what is, what's her deal? But, like, what is your deal? She's like, we need to flush. I'm like, are we on a school trip? We're on a fucking commercial airplane. Right.

It's not like I took a shit in the toilet and didn't fly. Then you could be like, who the fuck didn't flush? Right. There's a turd sitting in there right now. Literally. My crazy roommate has been tracking my location constantly. We shared Life 360 one time while going out.

I forgot about it until our mutual friends told me she leaves the app open on her phone, zoomed in on my location at all times. This weirded me out. So I turned my location off and she freaked out at me and started asking people if they knew where I am, even when I tell her where I'm going. You need to watch single white female or the roommate with late meister. Okay. I haven't.

That's horrifying. Maybe. That's very scary stuff. Well, that's why I'm saying you need to watch the roommate with Leighton Meester because that's what happens in the roommate with Leighton Meester as soon as I get the chance. Yeah, she has a roommate and the roommate. I don't remember if the roommate is Leighten Meester, the other one isn't. Sure, sure.

Well, they're obsessed. They're obsessed. It's like based on single white female. Yeah, okay. Yeah. That's very spooky. Uh-huh. Yeah, no, turn that location off.

Keep it off. Keep it off and stay far away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no fixing that. Nope. Can I have my phone really quickly? I need to call for approval on the thigh tat. Oh.

Payton is off-campus's number one fan. Oh, my God, incredible. Hi. Say hi to Belmont. Hi, Peyton. Oh, I'm sick. What's up, sister? How are you?

I'm yours now. Thank God I answered, Jake. I just heard my computer ringing. We almost didn't get you. Oh, I'm obsessed with you bad. That's awesome. Thanks. Do you have any questions? Your show is awesome.

Thank you very much. We worked very hard on it. Are you filming season two right now? We currently are, yes. Holy hell. Okay, so... I read all the books. Yes, you read all the books.

Wow, good for you. I'm an OG fan. Respect. What was your favorite scene to film? Probably this scene with me, with Garrett and Dean in the weight room. I mean smash. Time to do. So the reason we called is because should I get a thigh tat?

You have to, Jake. They're so hot. I always tell you this. Yeah, you did. You called it. Do you have one? Yes, he has one. Of course he has one.

It's super hot. Yeah, but he said he has nothing to do for the rest of the day, so he would take me to get one after this. You have to go. I have to go, right? I wish I was going to be there, but you have to go. But what would you get? Because I don't want you to, like, be manic and, like, get something weird.

A banana peel? Yeah. Yeah, I knew it. Yes. Got the banana peel? Yes. Okay. I need a tattoo.

You need to calm down. I need a tattoo. He doesn't know how to calm. Ever. I can't believe you have so much enthusiasm for the tattoo idea now. I can't believe you haven't gotten one. Because it's... I tell him, like, thigh tats are hot.

It's fun. Well, he told me he wears... He hyper fixates on something, and then he'll let get manic and not do it. He told me he wears really long swim trunks. He was like, I was like, I was. wear jeans to the beach and I was like we need to get a thigh tat and then it'd be more comfortable in short shorts. Also Jake like you're hot and your body's hot.

Right. Get short or fucking shorts. Yeah, decorate it with cool tattoos. I guess you're right. Okay, so you need a thigh tat and you need new bathing suits. That's what I told him. But only if he can take me. He has to take you.

Belmont, you have to take him. I'm going to do my best. I'll be the liaison for this. Okay, love you. Have so much fun. Thanks. Love you. Bye.

Bye. It's a really good idea. I have insane imposter syndrome when it comes to dating because I grew up weird and unattractive. Sorry. It's literally how I feel. I had a crazy glow up, but still anytime a guy that's mildly attractive and or well-like shows interest in me, I panic and get scared. Even if it's a guy that I'm interested in, I find myself self-sabotaging. Is there any way to get over this?

Yeah, of course there is. I practice it. What? Just practice. You don't have any advice for this, do you? I really don't. That's okay. I don't really have any advice either because I'm...

But it does sound like you had a good glow-up and so... Yeah, I'm the glow-up. Oh, my God, you know what? You need to watch... Quick, tell me. Oh, my God, watch the Princess Diaries. Yeah? Watch the Princess Diaries.

Are you talking about like the He's All That and the... Yes, but watch the... I've never seen He's All That. What was the Amanda Bind's Soccer one? That was based on like a Shakespeare. She's the Man. Oh, right, right, right. Best movie ever.

So, so good. Watch the Princess Diaries. Yes, good. Watch that movie. Okay. Ready for the last one? Yep. I accidentally discovered my father's porn addiction by finding a hidden tablet with thousands and upon thousands of videos saved.

I obviously understand this is normalized, but the sheer amount of content I found saved was not normal. From what my mother has told me, she is very against pornography in all forms. I don't want to cross any lines, but I also don't want my to let my mom be lied to. What do I do? Uh, how horrible. This one is not like the other ones. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes Nolan throws in a random.

Good pull, Nolan. I mean, okay, my first query is what's the old man into? Right. Is it normal stuff? Thousands upon thousands doesn't sound like it. Does not sound like normal stuff. But if they didn't specify that, it was specifically anything in there, but, you know, if that's a... Thousands upon thousands.

It's a lot of material. I would just tell the mom. You know what I would do? I would, yeah, I think it's probably good for the mom to know that. I would tell the mom. But I would tell the dad, hey, you don't have to have any of this saved. It's porn. Also, when I was just thinking, too.

You could just go look at it and then you could just leave it on the internet and go back to your life. You don't have to have, does he have boxes of it? What happened? He has, it saved on his computer. Oh, okay, yeah. See, I would just be like, listen, pops, you don't have to download this at all. If you want to see it again tomorrow, you can just go find it again. Right.

So you wouldn't tell the mom. I mean, it's interesting that mom is really against pornography. Right. So there's an underlying issue happening in this marriage. Yeah. What a weird coincidence. Right, right, right. And do you think, I mean, it's possible that she just says that to the kid because she knows about the way that it's affected her husband.

Yes. And so she's fearful of the addiction being genetic. Yeah, so maybe just stay out of it. We're going to hang. Really? Yeah. Okay. We have to party together.

We got to go out. We have to party. I don't know. Do you go out? I don't really go out. I'm a house party guy. I go out. I'll throw a party here at your place.

I should do that one of these days. Do you not? I know. I never have. What? I know. Never. I've never thrown a party here.

Oh my God. It's the best. I love to go out. It's my favorite thing to do in the entire universe ever, ever, ever. Oh my God. I love to go out. Pregame to like a planned. party situation to like something else or like pregame to like everybody's going to the same

club at the same time pregame to everyone's going to the same bar at the same time like it is my favorite thing on god's green earth i'm not a go out guy it's quite fun i believe it i've been to a club once in my life what club was it it was uh it was in miami i was 19 i had a bomber jacket on was it a strip club no um it was like at the w hotel or something in South Beach. Oh. I think it's called the wall. Something like that, if I remember correctly.

Did you go to, what's the one in the, you know the, no, no, not 11, not space. It's the one. Oh, my fucking, live. Did you go to live? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay. You went to. No, I literally just went, this is the only time I think I've ever been in a club. Okay.

And the music was so loud and I was so poor. And the Jack and Cokes were like 25 blocks. Yeah, they're very expensive. And all the women have. had accents, so I couldn't really understand them that well. Plus, it was the loudest, deepest, tranceous house music I'd ever heard. I can't. So I was screaming at these women who spoke mostly Spanish, trying to introduce myself.

I was, like, I just lost all my money on the two drinks that I bought. And the three rounds of cover I paid to get in. I had a pair of, like, nylon joggers on. And all the other guys in there were, like, bald and sweating from Coke and wearing Rolexes. And I was like, I've never been more out of place. And then I just didn't go to a club again after that. Yeah. So you have to go to the right one.

I'm a dive bar guy. Okay. Give me a shitty bar. I'm there. I just love, like, loud music, dancing. Yeah. Just like complete chaos. Yeah.

Like, the lights are off. I don't know what the fuck is going on, but all I know is that it's 4 a.m. And then we're stumbling out. You're crazy, man. Whatever, you guys. You're so nuts. Whatever, you guys. Whatever.

Oh, God. Sounds like fun. It is fun, okay? It's the time of your life. I would do it with you. You give it a chance. It's the time of your life. Belmont, what did we learn today?

We learned basically nothing. I disagree. What was that one bit of good advice he gave that we were like, wow. Oh, we learned that if you can, and a good way to quit smoking would be to use your lungs and a good way to retain your memory would be to read. Yes. Or play chess or do something that involves.

I think. Which has. Checkers? How about just like mobile games? No, that's what's killing you. Fuck. Yeah. We did learn some things.

We learned that I'm getting a taut. Yeah. It might not be today. But it'll be sometime. No, no, no, no. That thigh's getting tatted. It has to. Yeah.

Okay, well, Belmont, thanks for coming on therapist. Thanks for having me. This was fun. Do you have fun? Yeah, I really did. I had a great time. Yeah, this was good. I could have done this for much longer.

It's good hang. I know. Thank you. Yeah, you're a good hang. Thank you. You're welcome. Bye, posies.