Therapuss with Jake Shane - Session 55: Brett’s Back

Episode Date: February 6, 2025

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Sees and welcome back to Therapus. Today we have one of my best friends in the entire world on. Brett. You guys all know Brett, so I don't really know if I need to explain anything about Brett. But for those that don't know Brett, Brett and I have been best friends since the first day of college. It's like one of those like we met and instantly became best friends. We've been best friends ever since. We've lived together for, I think we're going on year three now.

You everyone knows her. I feel like you all know her. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Anywho, um, I just got back from Korshevel, France, and I had the time of my life skiing. I didn't take my meds for five days. I felt so at peace. So that's just kind of what's going on in my mind. I'm also really hyper-fixated on the fact that Phoebe Bridgers hasn't released an album

in five years. Um, and I've been listening to a lot of Phoebe Bridgers lately. Um, what else has been on my mind? You guys watching Severance? Are you watching Sovereigns, Louise? Yeah. I'm not loving it as much as you love it. Why?

I don't know. I'm caught up, though. Fully? You like season one? Maybe I was scrolling too much while I was watching. Yeah, you can't scroll and watch Severance. Anyhow, what else has been on my mind? Oh, I've been really debating.

I know this sounds crazy because I've been in a... What? Really into bathing? Debating. What did you think I said? Bathing. No, I don't, I hate baths. Fun fact about me, I hate baths.

But I've been really debating a New York move. I don't know. I've really been thinking of, I mean, I would definitely, I've really been thinking about it. Connor Wood inspired me. He really did inspire me. And I am really thinking that maybe I want to do 26 in New York. So that's what's been on my mind, honestly. But I'm not going to think about it until closer to when my lease is up on this place.

I just love L.A. so much. I don't know how I would ever leave. My entire life is here. Everyone I love is here. I don't want to leave. But I love New York. Wait, we just announced tour. Since last week, we just announced tour.

I'm really excited. I'm... I can't... I'm thinking... I'm nervous, for sure. I'm definitely nervous, but I'm really, really excited to get back on the road. If you went to my last tour, this is a different show. There might be some elements that are the same, but for like the most part, this is a different show.

I'm really excited. I'm really excited for Matt to come back. Does he get, does he land tonight? You guys, I have been desperately trying to coerce Matt into doing a therapist episode. please, like, do you want a mat reveal? Just for like five minutes. That's all I ask from him. Five minutes on this podcast.

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Hi, Pussies, and welcome back to Therapus. Today we have one of my very, very best friends. You all know her. You all love her. Queen of dessert bowls, marathons, and Christmas cookies. Please welcome Brett. Yay. Hey, B.

Hey, I'm so happy to be back. I'm so happy to have you back. I haven't even seen this new set in person, which is kind of crazy. You live here. I know. But I have been back here. I walked into the green room, too, and I was like, wait, this is like a real place now. I know.

It's crazy. It's crazy that I had people here in that space last year. It was so scary. The random treadmill. No, the treadmill was one thing. And then what else did we have? We had a million safe suitcases. It was like, I don't know what happened.

I think it was when I lost my luggage and a bunch of brands sent me suitcases. We have so many suitcases. Now there's all in the garage, there's a wall of suitcases. Granted, we use every single one of them. Yeah, we're very grateful. We use every single one of them. There's just a lot. Yeah, it's too much.

I don't know where half the shit that was in here went, to be honest. Where did half the shit in here go? I don't know if they're gonna know. There was that random Louis Vuitton bag. Yeah, it's mine. That's yours. Where did that go? That's in the garage now.

Okay, I've got it. I don't know why we didn't use the garage for storage to begin with. I know. The packages of it all has been a game changer. I look back at how we lived in Orlando and I seriously wonder how we got out of bed. Same. It genuinely made me so angry. I just, you guys like, you couldn't see the floor.

No. The PR pile like went to the ceiling. Like it was just like, it was bad. But like, look, like we're organized now. We are organized now. Well, we try to be. We try to be. Much more than before.

Yeah. It's hard. Even much more than last year. Much more. Much more. But my personal. room. I was just saying yesterday, it's always, it's always dirty now. My room's a shit show. Because it's, my room is too small for all the shit I have. It is. It is. It's overflowing with things.

It is. I, my room, I think, is also. No, I feel like you're rolling gloke's clean. There's just not storage space. Yeah. That's what Manny was telling me. She's like, you don't have storage space. Yeah. So, like, I have a million and one thing just like piling up. Because I'm a collector. Mm-hmm. I'm a collector. Like, you don't want to throw anything away. I don't want to throw anything away. Like, I collect everything. Like, like, this has me and it. Because everything does have meaning. Like, I can't say goodbye to things. I don't know what it is or why, but I'm sure there's a very reasonable explanation.

I mean, you literally have the same desk since like sophomore year of college. I need to get a new desk. The desk is like, you open it and it falls off and it falls off and you have to push it back in. And it's like, why don't I fix that? I don't know. But like that doesn't have meaning to me. That's just like pure laziness. Oh, okay.

But like a lot of stuff like, yeah, there's like, like I just attach meaning to everything. Yeah, I get it. Do you keep a lot of things? Yeah. I mean, have you, literally have you seen my room? Yeah, but like everything in your room feels necessary, I will say. No, I don't know if that's true. But like, it's just, I have a hard time throwing things out, but I'm trying to get better

at it. You know? You just finished the New York Marathon. Yes, like a month ago. It was great. You want to talk about it? I do, honestly. It was a great day.

It looked amazing. It was overall an amazing weekend. Like, first of all. the weather was amazing, which like we all know was my downfall in Boston. Like, the heat is too much. The heat was too much. And it was definitely like really like a hard course, but it was so like the energy was insane. There were so many people cheering.

It was like so cute. Like I wish I was there. I know. I wish you were. I wish I was there. And I missed it by one day. But you were tapped in. Like you were texting Max.

You were texting. Can he tell you? Yeah. Yeah. I was really tapped in. He was like Jake's been texting me like he's wanting to like know. I was like, oh. Mani, were you there for that?

I was on tour with you. Do you remember, like, how we were checking it every five seconds? Oh, it's sweet. We woke up and started checking it. Yeah. And so, like, that was really cool, like, all the support. And then... And you were the, what were the second most track?

I was the second most tracked runner, which is crazy. Crazy. Like, I'm still not over that. I don't think. Yeah, that was super fucking cool. Next to Casey Nystad and you were above Vinny from Jersey Shore. Like, that's cool. I was above, like, other, like, celebrities, celebrities.

Whatever. But, yeah, that was super cool. So it was overall an amazing, amazing. I definitely want to do it again someday. And the next one you're going to do is Chicago. Chicago. And that is October 10th next year. Next year.

Yeah. Great. Yeah. So we'll all be there for that. Because like now I have enough. Well, you guys did all say that you were going. Okay. Listen.

No, but the tour was more important. I will say. I don't care. I will say. Something will come up for Chicago. No, no. No. I promise.

But now that I know how Torain works, I didn't know how Torin worked. I thought I like. I thought I couldn't say no to dates. Right. And I thought like everything was booked out and I couldn't say no to dates. And like now I've learned that like I can move stuff around. No, totally. But like I really wanted to go to Arkansas.

Yeah. And that's why I missed it. Exactly. So I was like it's fine. Like it's fine. But there is nothing over October 10th. Like I'm saying it right now. Like I won't do a show that day.

Like I am having that day free and I'm coming to the marathon. All right. Let's see. It's your hometown marathon. It's your hometown marathon. Like, I do have to go. I would love to have you there. Okay.

But, like, obviously, no pressure. Clearly. You were so good during the first one. Like, it was just, like, so fine. But that was in L.A., so, like, it was, like, I better have been good. Yeah. Like, yeah. Do you remember that was the best weekend ever?

You guys had a lot of fun that weekend. No, but just, like, the marathon of it all also, like, waking up and, like, I guess I didn't sleep. actually. You didn't sleep. But I had so much fun that weekend. Yeah, it was a good weekend. It was a fun day overall. It was such a fun and fun. That was such like a fun, like different time in life. Like, it was midnight. It was, no, it was like a little after midnight's, but like you had just gotten famous. Like, I just started like seeing Max more seriously. Like, it was like things

were just like changing. Things were changing. And it's kind of crazy to think back on. It was a really crazy time. I would say my favorite memory from that time is all we do reminisce. Kind of. And then we went to Taylor Swift the next weekend. Oh, yeah. That's my favorite memory. Yeah, that was a really, really, really good memory. Should we talk about era's ending?

I'm very upset about it. Yeah, me too. But like you did, like Brett brought up a very good point today. Like she made so much goddamn fucking money off that tour that like she will do something of like a not, maybe not the same stature, but a similar stature hopefully. Or not hopefully. No, she'll tour again. She'll tour again. I don't think we have to be worried about her not touring again.

I just was like, I was saying to Max, I was like, I'm so upset that like I'm never going to see this show again. And he was like, you're being like a bit dramatic. Like she made so much money. Like her next tour is going to be like something, a similar vibe in some sense. Like she, I don't think she can go back to just touring one album. And then you said the smart thing about like the three to four. I think she's going to do like three to four or like three. I'm, I'm going to say two to three albums.

And then tour. And then tour those albums. Yeah. Along with her hits. Yeah. She's always going to, like, dedicate an era of that tour to the bad bloods, the shake it off, love story. Love story. Like, she'll all, she's done love story at every single tour.

Of course she has to. Yeah. And like she's going to do a, she now is going to do cruel summer at every show, which is like very good news for you. And like, the surprise songs aren't going away. What do you think? Oh, I can do it with broken heart. Yeah. She'll do I can do it with a broken heart.

Yeah. I think I'm very upset that I never got to see TTPD. I know. It's kind of insane that you never got to see it. I know. I only saw it once. And it was in Zurich, and the Zurich shows were, you know how I get offended so easily. Yeah, yeah.

Well, not offended so easily, but like I take things personally when I shouldn't. She know, Brad takes things very personally, especially when it comes to Taylor Swift. But things that I don't get offended by things that I should get offended about and that I take things personally that I shouldn't. So I was, do you ever get those TikToks that's like unpopular Taylor Swift? Yes. Yes. And it was like, what? The Zurich shows were super low energy.

Yep. And I commented. And you got angry. It came up on my for you page like yesterday the day before and I commented like that's just the Swiss culture. Concert etiquette is different everywhere. I was there and it was so fun. I got so offended. You also got offended when you weren't a verified fan on ticket master.

Like legitimately offended. Like it was like a point of contention in the house. Like me and Julia got verified fan just because it was a fucking robot picking it. I didn't know it was a bot. And Brett was like so weird that I didn't get it. Oh like. We were like it's a bot. She was like must be.

I was so mad. But we got the tickets and that's what's mattered. Yeah, exactly. You know what I regret, actually? If I have like one Eros Tour regret. What is it? I wish we went to opening weekend. Me too.

Well, we couldn't have because that was the marathon. But I do wish. And I think that- Oh, I knew there was a reason we didn't do that one. There was a reason. I was like, why didn't we? I was so confused. There was a reason, but we also like didn't fully like consider it, I don't think.

Because I wasn't signed up for the marathon when we got our tickets. What? Yeah. Because we got our tickets. Okay, well, everything happens for a reason because now you're like a thawning queen. Yeah, exactly. Like, imagine if I didn't do it. Yeah, imagine.

Imagine we went to. Because I obviously would have been like, oh, I'm not doing that lame I'm going to errors. Yeah. And then I probably would have never become a thon queen, to be honest. Ever. And what would we be up to? I have no idea. I don't know what the fuck I would be doing.

You'd be making dessert bowls. Yeah, no, totally. But anyway. You'd be running stale. Yeah, I'd still be. I probably would have done one eventually. You should do a TikTok of all. videos of a bunch of you, different clips of you running in all three marathons to dancing through

life. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, I think it would go super viral and the caption should say running through life. Okay. Can you do that after this? Yeah, will you help me? Yes, I think it would go super viral and then like end it with you like finishing it as well. Yeah, uh, I don't know if I have any videos to be crossing any finish lines.

Oh, wait, no, I have one in New York. I was about to say. Not L.A., though. And not Boston. Not Boston. I was not looking at. I knew you were so angry. I was so mad.

It was a hard day. I sobbed the entire flight home. Max was like, Brad, are you okay? Like, I was sobbing. But thank God that,

like, it just made you work that much harder. And it made you do hill training, which you never thought to do before. Yeah. Well, I mean, I did hill training for Boston.

I knew you were about to say that. But not, but not to the extent that I should have. Right. I was way more prepared for New York. And also what I said is that like, since Boston went, my first marathon just went like picture perfect.

And so since Boston didn't go well, like that proved to me, like, even if it's so, so hard and it's sucking, like, I can finish. Like, I was hurting with 10 miles left in the race. Like, that's insane to think about. And I still finished it. Yeah, exactly. And it is true. Like, L.A. went so picture perfect just because it was like February. It was cold.

It was freezing cold. It was like 5 a.m. I knew what to expect. Yeah, it started at 7 a.m. Like, I knew what to expect about the course. You know the L.A. streets. Yeah. You know the L.A. streets.

You knew where you were running through. Like, it just worked. But, yeah, not Boston. But next to Chicago. And then what's after Chicago? Tokyo? No. I'll probably try to do London or something the following spring.

And then I'll only have two of the majors left. Berlin and Tokyo. I know what you'd be up to if you were not thought in. What? grad school. 1,000 percent. You'd be up to grad school. You guys, I went through like a post-grad crisis.

Like so many people. do and I was like gotta go to grad school. Like dad said on it too. And we were like, I don't, I was like, Brett, I don't. No, actually, I think I was like, do it, girl. I think that we like didn't know what to think. But that's literally why I like, I was going through so many things. Because like, training for the marathon and then I met Max.

Then I was like, wait, I actually don't hate L.A. anymore. And so there was a moment where we were like miserable. Miserable. I think it's just, it's post grad's hard. Post grad's hard. And no one talks about it. Like that like November, December of postgrad, like those times were dark. We didn't go out.

We only went to Taylor Swift Knights. Yeah. And we went to multiple of them. Yeah. Those were the only things we did. Yeah. We went to market like maybe two or three times. Yeah.

But at the time, market was only playing like house music with no words. Like, is it better now? I haven't been so long. No. Okay. I didn't enjoy myself last time I was there. No offense to anyone that I was with. I love you all.

But like I didn't enjoy myself. Yeah. I don't enjoy myself. Like Julia threw up in a cup and left and like Irish goodbye. When was that? That was recently. It was recently. And I was like about to like get into having fun.

Wait, was that after your birthday? Birthday or? I was after my birthday at Birdstreet. Oh. And Julia threw up at a cup and I was like about to get into having fun and Julia wasn't there. And I was like, okay. Yeah.

Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. No, pay wasn't in town. She was in Europe. Oh my God. She was in. You know, I would have stayed, but Julia, you left at the original party.

Yeah, I was sick and like, you know me. Yeah. If I am sick and like whatever, like, I'm like. It was a miracle that you were there to begin with. Yeah, I really did not feel well at all. And then I had to force myself to go to Caroline's birthday the next day. And then so I took an Adderall to like try to get through it. Am I allowed to say that?

With me, yeah. What do you mean with you? Like, do you care? No. Continue. Continue. I mean, I'm just being honest. To the younger viewers, don't do what we do.

Like that, but... We aren't trying to be role models, but continue. Basically, I was feeling sick. And so I was like, I need to take an Adderall in order to get through this birthday. Because Caroline is like my childhood best friend. She just moved to L.A. I was going to her birthday. But then I had like two apparel sprits.

Like, you know, like I'm like trying to get. through it and then I just start feeling like so, so sick after like literally an hour at Bungalow. And so then I came home, but then like I proceeded to have a panic attack because I had taken an Adderall, but I needed to sleep. And so it was just this whole to do. Did you take something to sleep? Yeah. Just NyQuil. Just NyQuil. Nothing like serious. But I was able to sleep. I just spoke about this when Julie and I recorded, but there was this thing about this girl that took an ambient on a plane and blacked out so bad. She masturbated midfell. And a flight attendant walked by and saw her pants down of her like...

No! Is that real? Have you ever heard Mani's Ambien story? It's not that. No. So, Mani's ambient story, Mani took an... Because I almost took an ambient. Like, I've never taken one before, ever.

And we had a lot... Why did I want one? Because we had just been laid over and we had like a six-hour flight. We had a six-hour flight and I had a show. And I was really, really, really scared that I wasn't going to be able to sleep. I was terrified. Because I needed to be on. Yeah.

And it was a red eye. And I was like, I need to. And I need to. Is this when you were going to Pittsburgh? Yes. I almost took an Ambien. Like she, it was an Ambien, right?

And right is on my tongue. And she goes, before you take that, like, I just want to tell you, like, go straight to bed. Like, don't stay awake. Like, you might do weird shit.

And I was like, what? Because like, the way I fall asleep is like, I scroll. Yeah. That's how I fall asleep. It's toxic.

But like, I would have stayed up had I taken it. I didn't, like, automatically. just like knock you. Like I know you had to like actively like close your eyes. And she was like when I took an ambient on the plane for the first time, I fell asleep and there was a bag of cheese it's next to me. I woke up.

The bag of cheese that's gone and like like finished. And I turned to the guy next to me and I said, hey, did you eat these cheez-ets? And he said, no, you actually woke up in the middle of the night, ate the cheez-its, then accused me of eating the cheez-its, went back to bed, woke up and have done now the same thing twice. Shut up. And I was like, did you know the guy?

Shut up. God forbid. God forbid I like post something crazy or like. Oh, so true. Like God forbid I just like have a Kristen wig moment. Like I just like was like, you know what? Yeah. I'm going to do an Advil PM situation.

Yeah. And that's what I did. That's smart. I also one of my mom's friends, I think this happened to, but she took like an Ambien or one of the one of those before they took off on like a night flight to Paris and then they ended up like taking off and then like they had to like come back down for like some reason and like she was like super like discombobulated and like couldn't get off the plane and like it was like she like couldn't move i think so i forget the story but that that's why my mom says

always wait in the air to take your larazepam oh who i met someone the other day that was taking larazepam i take larazepam on my flights to europe to help sleep but that's it that's all we Are those as strong as Ambien? No. Oh. Yeah. You know severance returns? I'm so excited.

Oh, you know what? I'm mad that you didn't finish slow horses. Because it seriously is so good and I wish we could talk about it. Okay. Well, you know what I'm watching now that you would love? What? Lioness. Okay.

With Zoe Saldana. Okay. And it's like giving like, it's like, I don't really know the premise. She works for like an anti, I think she works for the CIA. Oh. Do you can, yeah. It's on. Paramount Plus.

Max and I just wrote a disclaimer. Oh, you know who scored Disclaimer was Phineas. He did the music for that show. No way. Yes, how cool. Good for him. Apparently there's like, I don't want to spoil anything.

I don't even know the spoiler. But apparently there's some like massive twist. I've heard that. I just like, I couldn't, I was having a hard time following it. I, we're only one episode in and I'm confused. Right? But I want to watch it because since we finish slow horses,

like Max, And the last season of slow horses was good, right? It was amazing. Do you ever let people sit in that chair or now? Always. Oh, really? Is this your good side? No, I don't care.

I'm just wondering. I always give people, like, when I have like a guest come in. Yeah. I always like, I'm like, which side do you want? Oh. I always ask. I don't know if I've seen you on that. So like in Leve's episode, she sits in this chair.

And I'm trying to think of like someone else that also sat in this chair. Oh, Larry. Larry sat in this chair. Oh, yeah. These are so much more comfortable. than the last round. Yeah, beyond. This set is just, it's so evolved, I feel like.

No, I really like it. I really like it. I don't know. I guess this is like, these are the last few weeks. You're like loving the Christmas cookies. Were they here last year? No. That's why I was like, I know we missed them one year.

Yeah, last year now. But in Orlando, I'll never forget, like, Brett's mom always sent us cookies in college. Oh, you always came home with cookies. Her chocolate chip cookies are like the famous ones. Yes. But, like, I, I stand out. Like, I, I really wait for the Christmas cookies to really, like. She made this batch, like, especially for, like, Jake's excitement about the cookies.

If there's one thing, Mocho's going to do, it support me. Yeah. Like, I will never forget. Brad's mom is one of my favorite people in the entire world. I will never or get after my Chicago show, we work. There was a huge crowd of people. Like, I could bear, like. honestly like vibe like thank you guys thank you for that like it made me feel really famous but like

i was trying to get in the car and suddenly i see this woman pushing through people she goes it's megan and i turn around and i'm like oh mocho i don't know why she said it's megan like instead of mocho but yeah she like somehow elbowed her way she's my mocho is my everything yeah she's great mocho is my everything and she made these cookies for me yeah and i'm really pleased because in Orlando. Yay. Wait, you guys don't want some? No, one for each.

Do you guys want to try them? Yeah, I'm for course. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Oh, mine's Galinda. Who's yours? Also Galinda.

What do you mean? So do you want to describe the cookie? Yeah. So it's just like a shortbreadty, the sandwich cookie part is just like shortbreadty and fun fact there isn't sugar in the dough. What a fun fact. Indeed.

What a fun fact. Indeed. I know. And so, but this is granulated sugar on top. But then the frosting is literally also just three ingredients. It's like heavy whipping cream sugar and like vanilla, I think. And like butter.

I don't fucking know. But anyway. So they're just, they're crack. They're just, they're crack. They're seriously the best things in the entire world. Like I can eat like 10 in one sitting.

And I'm so grateful that they're having, it's their moment on TikTok. They're having like a Renaissance. It's crazy. They really are. I don't know if Renaissance is the right word for that one. Well, no, because they've never had a saunce. Exactly.

There was no sans. Basically, you guys, I pose these cookies every single Christmas since I, like, started TikTok. So, like, the past two Christmases and then this year. Okay, you've been at this way longer than you give yourself credit for. No, I feel like I give myself credit. Yeah, but you just said the past two Christmases. I guess that's when you posted them.

Brett's been at Brett's bites since high school. 2017. 2017. And I feel like that's a comment. misconception, which is totally understandable because obviously I'm Jake's best friend. Oh, people think you started after me? People think I started after Jake. I started after Jake.

People think I started after Jake because like, oh, like he was blowing up. So then like I'm going to start Brett's bites. No. I've had Brett's bites since 2017. Yeah. She like came into college and was like, I have breath bites. Yeah. Like, I miss bites.

Yeah. Like it was like a thing. And then like we were like and then during COVID, that's when you really started to take it seriously. Yes. Yes. And I've been taking it seriously since then. Yeah.

It inspired me to make me. mine. Thanks. Well, yeah, early past that post when he was just doing the reviews, like we've talked about this before, but like a lot of his followers were from my town of Lake Forest. Chicago is still my number two city. Which is like cute. Yeah. So, okay. Cheers. Eyes. Hmm.

I think it's so good. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Fuck, dude. Right? Right. Oh, my God. Right. One thing about me and Brett is whenever we eat, we have synced up reactions. Yeah. Yep. Always. Oops.

And you keep them cold. Keeping them cold is key. So they are like sliding around with the frosting. Like, and the best part about these cookies is that they get better as you continue to bite into them. Like, bite, yummy. Wait. Like at a second wave hits. You know?

Yeah. It's like a second. Oh, my God. They're amazing. You know what's crazy? What? Is the last time we recorded, I had, I would say, like, my first real viral TikTok sound on this app. And it's crazy because there was only one clip made from that entire episode.

It was that. And I was going to have more made. I usually, like, sometimes, like, have them made as the, like, week progresses. But I, I just had one made. Because it was Coachella weekend. It was my first Friday drop. Yeah, it was the first surprise episode. It was the first surprise episode.

It was the first surprise episode. I just threw up the clip and it was Coachella weekend, so I didn't really think anything of it. And then all of a sudden? Jake and I are texting and I'm like, wait, Jake, like, People are using the sound. People are using the sound. Like, that that's common sense, I fear.

And then, like, slowly and slowly, it was like bigger creators were using it. And then, like, I was seeing it, like, all over. And, like, it was, like, literally taking the app by storm. It was awesome. It felt really good. It did feel really good. It felt really good.

it felt like we did a good job at something. Yeah. Because, like, honestly, like, the amount of sounds, or the amount of videos that that sound has, and, like, probably obviously other sounds have been made that, like, aren't yours. Like, it's truly crazy. And, like, again, like, I, and everyone that asked,

I say, like, we knew that clip was, like, funny because it was, like, funny banter between us. Like, I didn't think it was as funny as. Like, I just was like, oh, it's cute. When we, when you first watched the episode back, you, like, kind of, like, laughed at it. Yeah. And you were, like, it wasn't.

anything like crazy. It wasn't like, because I have moments where I'll clip something from the show and I'm like, this is going to be the clip to end all fucking clips and it's just not. Yeah. And like, it's really just shows you that like it's the things you'll never expect. Yeah, truly. Like my skits. I had no idea.

Yeah. But I was just having fun. It's when you're having fun. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. And so that was crazy. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. used it a lot during the election, like go vote. Yeah. That's common sense.

Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. It is a very versatile little exchange. It is. I mean, not the marathon part, but like that's common sense. Well, the marathon part can, like, it's basically me insinuating I know something. You're saying you actually don't know it and you should know it because it's common sense.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was clever. But like, I wasn't trying to be clever. Like, but then like when we reminisce. Right. And we made dessert polls in that episode.

Yeah, we did. It was cute. I think I'm getting sick. Well, you've been traveling so much. I need a breath. Like, truly, I need to breathe. Yeah, because you also don't like getting on a plane. I hate it.

But you do it all the time. Because it's like I don't want to not experience something just because I'm such a miserable human. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, everyone's like, everyone's like, are you ever happy? No, I'm miserable. Like, I'm a miserable human. Like, but at the same time, like, complaining is my love. which, like, I look back and, like, I, like, I laugh about things I complained about.

Like, it's just, like, I'm just Jewish. Like, I don't know. I think that's what it is. But, like, I don't know. Like, I don't want to ever. But then it's, like, sometimes, like, I don't need to apologize for not, like, not everyone's enjoyment comes from the same thing. Yeah.

So it's like, you're valid. I need to just, I need a breath. I love. It's like, and then sometimes I'm like, oh, I got to get out of L.A. And then I get out of L.A. And I'm like, I would literally cut my own dick off with a saw. to be back in L.A. Like, I love this goddamn city more than anything in the entire world.

You do. You love it here. I ride or die for L.A. You really do. I really ride or die for L.A. Every time you leave you to have us L.A. Just because it's like, I have my things. And I think that goes for wherever people live. Yeah.

Like, I have my things. I wake up and I do my thing. Like, you know what I mean? Like, on Saturday, like, I have my thing. On Sunday, I do my thing. Like, I have my things. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah.

No, for sure. I feel like similarly, like, ish. Like, I don't, like, that's why I don't see myself moving anytime soon because I just, like, love my life here. I love. I love, air one. I love air one. Like, I haven't gotten fresh corn grill in a long time either.

Fuck that. Yeah, fuck that. Fuck that. Yeah. It's disgusting. Fuck that. We're done. We're fucking done with that place.

I am so sorry. I got used fresh corn grill. I mean, I'm sorry if you are not from L.A. you're like, what the fuck are these literal losers talking about? But like... You just have to be here and understand. You have to be here. You have to understand.

Basically, fresh corn grill is like... Okay, let me... Tell me, stop me if I'm wrong. There's this really expensive restaurant called The Ivy. It's very sceny. It's... I've never been the biggest fan. Sue me.

They love it. I've never been the biggest fan. I wouldn't say I love it. I just think it's a very quintessential L.A. experience. So, like, me and my family would always go, like, growing up. But, like, I'm not, like, rushing back to the Ivy ever. I don't.

I don't, yeah, I don't have a pep in my step when I'm en route. Like, I don't, like, I don't want to go there. And it's also just, it's so expensive. And, like, really. It's stupidly expensive. It's like, they are, like, assuming that you're paying for the experience. And it's like, bitch, what experience I'm sitting at a table. Yeah.

Like, it's not even, like, we're at, like, the rainforest cafe and there's, like, fun things going on. Like, what, I don't know what I'm paying for. Yeah. Sorry. And, but regardless, the Ivy does have a really good, like, Spanish rice and a really good carne asada. So the chef at the Ivy made, like, a fast, casual restaurant, right? Called Fresh Corn Grill.

We discovered it in college. And it really changed our lives when we discovered it. Like, we thought we were doing something by driving West Hollywood and going there. Uh-huh. And, like, it was, it was good, but, like, it also was kind of disgusting in a way. I didn't think it was disgusting until I watched someone get a sun dried tomato pasta from there. Okay, that's disgusting. And I hate sun dried tomatoes.

And, like, actually, more than anything in the entire world. Yeah, I mean, I'm not their biggest fan either. Like, well, you put them out in the sun and dry them? And, like, that's disgusting. I don't know. It's a crazy concept. But, yeah, it started grossing me out. It's just one of those things.

Let's call it, too, I understand. No, you guys still love it. I don't love it. I went with my sister the other week, and it was good, but like... Do you remember Chicken Gate? Chicken Gate really scarred me for a long time. What happened again? So, as a lot of you guys know, I need to get my chicken, like, extra well done.

Like, I want it, like, burnt, I want it, like, chewy. I don't want juicy. Like, I cannot eat chicken if there is any sort of not burnt piece. And I'm very particular about it. And so whenever I go to La Scala or anywhere, I say extra well done chicken, please, like, you can burn it. Like, please. And they bring me my salad. Okay.

Sorry. I could tell if it was a laugh, a burp, or a cough. So I just thought I'd check in. Continue? They bring me my salad, and not only is the chicken not well done, it's freezing cold. Ew. So I was like, okay, obviously they... Are we brats?

No. Continue. And, like, also we're paying for an expensive salad. Like, at Sweet Green, yeah, they're scooping chicken, but at sweet green, like, I want, like, freshly, freshly grilled chicken. Anyway, so I, if there's one thing about me, I don't like, I'm, I always am very polite, but if I order something and I don't like it, I almost always speak up in some way. That's not a question of you being polite or not, like you're paying for something. Like you're allowed to say like, this is whatever.

Exactly. And I also think a lot of women are like taught to kind of just like accept things. And like a lot of women don't want to like say like, hey, like this isn't what I ordered. Like say it. You're paying. Anyway. So I said to the waiter, I said, hi, like, excuse me. Like, I asked for my chicken well done. And, like, this also seems like it, like, isn't, like, freshly, like, cooked. Like, could you please replace it with burnt chicken?

And they go, oh, they go. They go, oh, my God, of course. Whatever. They take my salad away. And Julius, actually. Same thing up with Julia. What was up with mine? Did I get, like, pasta or something?

I don't remember. I think yours was fine. And then they proceed to bring our salads back. And I think the chicken was colder than before. It was literally the same chicken, if not colder chicken. And I go, I'm not doing this. Yeah, we left. We left.

Well, we paid and we left. Well, they were still enjoying their salads, Ken, Jules, and Pei. Yes, that's who is there. You and I walked to Airwad and we got a snack. Uh-huh. And it was a great snack. It was a great snack. And, yeah.

So that ruined it for a long time. Wait, Brett, when I tell you, this conversation is going so seamlessly. I guess I'm not surprised as to why it does considering we're best friends, but still, it's always nice when that happens. No, totally. We also, like, I feel like we're always having things to talk about. Because, like, you've been so busy and, like, I'm busy sometimes. So, like...

You are busy a lot of the time. So, like, we don't... Yeah, like, I've been so busy recently. I was at Tampax Headquarters. I was about to say you were at Tampax Headquarters. That was crazy. How was Tampax Headquarters? It was honestly great.

It was a really cool experience. for sure. Did I expect to ever go to Cincinnati to Procter & Gamble headquarters? No. So it wasn't, it was Procter & Gamble. Yeah, but they call it also like Tampax HQ because like Tampax is part of Procter & Gamble, but it was Procter & Gamble. Okay.

And so did you see like the, like what was the vibe? It was like, well, the vibe of like the Tampax of it all or just like the Vibe of Procter and Gamble. Like all of that? I mean, it was like cool. Like I was with a few other creators and like the Tampax team was all. really nice. Obviously, like, it was all, it was all women. There was one man, but like, it was really cool to hear about, like, the history of TAMPACs. I was not to say, is that what they told you about? Yeah. So it was really cool. Basically, I've been to T.Mpex girl,

always. So it's just, like, a cool brand to work with. And, um, and yeah, it was cool to go to Cincinnati. So that's that. What'd you have for dinner there? We actually went to this Mexican restaurant that was really good. Actually, I will say. I will say. And I feel like I can say this because I told the people there, too. Like, I went, like, not expecting to, like, love the food. You know what I mean? Because, like, I don't know where, like, we're going. Like, you know what I mean? You're a particular about my food.

And I'm very particular about my food. All the food was great. We went to this place called Nata for dinner. Great Mexican. We had graders ice cream, delicious. What? You know where we have not been back. You know what I'm about to say.

We went there once. I have begged and begged and begged to go back. Are you talking about the place downtown? La cha, cha, cha, cha. I have begged. and bagged. It was the greatest fucking food I've ever had in my entire life. It was the greatest food I've ever had in my entire life.

And because I don't drive, no one will come with me because I, like, have to get them to agree. It is literally in the arts district. We live so far from there. We do live far from there. But it was. You loved that place. Because the chips were like popped or something. Like, and they had like pasta.

Oh, I remember us saying we didn't need that pasta though. No, but we liked it. But we didn't need it. Yeah. What? What? The chips were just, they went stupid. Like, they were incredible.

Yeah. And that was also, that was just a fun night in general. That was the best night ever. Yeah. You know what we never talked about? What? I mean, should we just get into, tell me what's wrongs. Yeah, but I want to hear really quick.

Severance. We never talked about, did you watch the trailer for season two? Oh, yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited. Do you want to get into it? A little, yeah. Okay, yeah.

I mean, I'm freaking out. You know how much we love that show. And you know what I will say is Jake finished it before I did because I was, I was getting like really bored in some of the episodes, I will say, and he was like, no, just like get through for the finale. He was hyping up this finale so much. I was like, this better fucking, so good. It was one of the greatest finalities I've seen on television ever.

Ever. Actually, I think the greatest ever. It was just because of like how it all went down. It was so well written. And like, it was just so good. It was so good. I recently listened to this podcast episode that was like recapping it. It's just like TV. You actually would like this podcast.

It's a TV podcast. And they like kind of just like, it's commentary about different. episodes of different shows. What's it called? It's called the prestige. Mack showed it to me. And so, anyway, they're definitely going to do every single episode of this upcoming Severn season, so I'm very excited for that.

They did like Slow Horses, season four, whatever. It's Slow Horses Season 4 that good. Yes. Okay. Anyway. And so I listened to their recap of the finale. And I like forgot some tidbits as well. And I just was like, I'm so excited.

I'm so excited for season two. I forgot about the whole missing wife thing. The wife. The wife. I forgot about that. Remember the paint? The guy's painting. Yeah, what was the,

what did that mean? Was that like his visions of? So they were talking about this in the finale. We think that he basically is going home from work and he's trying to like overcome the severance and paint what he's like thinking what he. Even though he doesn't remember like he's trying so hard to remember. Do you know his Audi at all? We know that he's an artist. That's all we know.

I think that's all we know. God, that show is so. fucking heartbreaking. It's insane. And so basically, but he's the most like obedient in the workplace. In the workplace.

But then he gets the paint coming in in his mind, remember? Yeah. And I think it's because when he goes home, he's trying to remember, he's trying so hard to overcome like the sever or whatever.

And so it's creeping into both. That show is so good. It's so good. I'm so, Apple TV Plus really like comes out towing in. Beyond. They have the best shows. Do you watch Silo?

No, I was actually going to ask you. Okay. Here's my thing about silo. I like it. Max and I weren't obsessed. At the end of season one, I was like,

give me season two now. And now that season two is here, I'm like, you're like whatever. I'm like whatever. Yeah. You need to watch hacks. I know,

I do. Do you watch comedies? Do you? Yes, you do. You don't. I don't. But hacks is so fucking good. I know,

I know, I know, it's literally, do you watch hacks, Manny? I haven't seen this last season. The last season is the greatest season. It's the best season.

The best one. And it's, it's just good. It's great television. Like that's what took me so long to watch nobody wants this because it's just like, that's just,

I like a scary show. Me too. But I loved nobody wants this. I still haven't seen nobody wants this. I thought it was great. When they do the sync of you and I, is it good?

It's the end of episode one and it's amazing. I love Leon. What else does she have that we love? Um, tired of talking. How's it go again? And no, na,

nah, uh, yeah, stay the way. Keep going. It's like, I can't believe that you're, Chorus. Um,

because I've been nothing but good to you. And you're not good to me. We've sang in episodes before. I'm tired of talking, talking. Yeah, you remember. Yeah. We sang that song in episode? No, no, we've sang a song.

We sang, you're losing me in my last solo episode. Yep. Yes. Yeah. Love you're losing me. Yeah. I hate to be that selfish asshole. I really need reputation. Taylor's version.

I need reputation. I really need it. I hate, but like I feel so bad saying that because like imagine you finish like a world tour each shows three and a half hours and how much shows she do? Like 150. 193, I think. Oh, Jesus Christ. Like I can't say that. Never mind.

I take it back. Like. Nope. Like I need it too. Well, because we were, we were positive that by the time she ended the era's tour, she would be done with the re-recording. and it would be like closing all the chapters. Remember, wasn't that our theory? This is why, okay, I read like the Eros Tour and theories.

I don't think people understand how exhausting it is to clown. Beyond exhausting. It's exhausting. And that's why I, like, give up on it. I'm like, I can't do this anymore. Me too. Because also, like, there is some beauty and, like, being surprised. Do you want to hear the craziest fucking theory I saw the other day?

And of course I watched it. And of course it makes sense. They all make sense. They always make sense. So you know the 112-day theory? No. Okay, well, I'm not going to get into it, but there's an 112-day theory. But it's been disproven.

It was like 112 days between like blah, blah, blah, blah. It was valid for like speak now and 1989. And then anyway, though, all the surprise song she sang on tour. And it's 448, which is 112 four times. And so then they were like doing all this math. Are we just making this thing like this shit up at this point? Yes. I think they're making it up.

I think they're making it up. But like it is fine, but then it's not fine when you're sitting there and you're so disappointed. Yeah. Every single time after time. Like, but it's like, I don't want to be like, it's like, okay, I think the reason I love Evermore so much is like I really wasn't expecting that. Like I, I was, I don't know what I was expecting, but I remember, like, there's just some moments of my life I'll never forget.

And the day Evermore dropped, like from start to finish, I will never forget that day. Yeah. You woke me up at five in the morning. Yeah. I was like, Taylor is releasing an album. And I said, excuse. Yeah. Fucking me right now.

I face time Drake immediately. Yeah, I said, excuse me. And I was like, okay, like, I wonder what this is going to be like. In the second, I heard the opening strings to Willow. I was like, this album's my Roman Empire. And then like there was. It really was. It is.

It is. That's my number one favorite Taylor album. My number one. And my top albums always kind of shift. I will say the number one and two always are 1989 Taylor's version and Evermore. Yeah. Right now, Evermore is my number one. What's your number three?

right now. 1989 Taylor's, just because, like, is it over now? It's like so fucking good. Yeah. And now that we don't talk is so good. And Suburban Legends is so fucking good.

And, like, 1989 in general is just so good. But I would say the third often varies between, well, back in the day, it used to be fearless. Yeah. Back in the day, that was like my Roman Empire that album. But I would say the third is probably lover.

Yeah. Probably lover. Yeah. I love daylight so much that like I don't know what to do about it. Same. I love rep. I love rep. I love it so much.

Rep is my number one. Rep is my number one. I love rep more than anything. Well, obviously that's not true. I love other albums more. But I don't know where it is. There's just like I'm trying to think of like why that's not higher. I mean, it's okay.

Fuck, I love Evermore. so much. I'm like ruminated on it. It's also ever more season right now. It is ever more season. Because it's December. When it's summer, like, that's lover season for me. And I know people say that's folklore season. August is folklore season for me. Yeah. But lover is like I will never forget summer 2021. Like the world was kind of going back to normal. I think like we like half stopped wearing masks, half didn't. And I discovered, I don't know what like there's certain songs that just get lost in translation for me on occasion. And daylight was one of those songs. And when I I actually remember I played it in my car at the very end of junior year.

Was that when I discovered it? I think yes. Yes. And then you went home and you became hyperfixated and I had only recently discovered. I had been listening to it for very long. I just like was so amazing and I would like remember getting on the New York subway. Yes. You would post about it on the subway.

Yes. Why do I have such a vivid memory of that? Should we get into the tell me what's wrong? Yes. I think we're ready. Okay. Sorry, we had a little bit of technical difficulties and I had a panic attack. So, well, I'm reading these on my phone.

There's a little bit of technical difficulties. My boyfriend always throws up when I get naked. We've been dating for three years. He says it's because he gets nervous, but like it's been three years, is that crazy? Yes. What? What?

Yes. That would ruin my life. You're stronger than me. Why didn't you break up with him already? That throws up every time you get naked. Oh, girl. So like every single time you have sex? he pukes before?

Oh my God, that's like my worst nightmare. I'm sorry, I know I'm here to make you feel better, but like you need to leave him. It's far overdue. I don't know what else to say about that. Me either.

I'm sorry. I am so astounded. Maybe it is because he gets nervous, but like, girl, like, it's not acceptable. My own insecurities wouldn't be able to handle that. That's just me. So like, if he,

I just need, I would need to protect my peace in that situation. Yeah. Break up with him. Break up with him. Sorry, I'm sorry. but like I'm also sorry for you that that happens.

It's crazy. Nothing's wrong. I just got engaged and I wanted to tell you. Call me. Let's wish. Yes. Amazing. Hi.

Hi. It's Jake Shane and Brett. Hey. Yeah. Oh my God. You guys, I'm literally in the shower and I was like, who's calling me? We're so sorry, but we just needed to congratulate you on your engagement. Congratulations.

Oh my God. Thank you guys. Can you, what's your name? Holly. Holly. Christmas Barry. Oh, period. Wait.

What's your season? When did you get engaged? September. Are you, do you guys know what? Mackinah Island is? What? Mackinah Island. Yes, I know.

I'm a Midwest girl. Oh my God, Midwestern girlie. Yeah. I got married or I got married Jesus. I engaged at Mackinah in September. Oh, isn't that the one where you can't have cars? Yes. Congratulations.

When is your wedding? Where, when, where is your wedding? Do you know anything about that yet? So I live in Michigan. We live right outside of Detroit. So we're probably going to do a Detroit wedding like 2026. Fun. Some time to like plan.

Yes. You know, he's from Romania. I got a foreign daddy. So I'm sure. Romania. You know the vibes. No, we know. Well, I don't because I'm single, but I know.

So fair. No, it'll be, you'll get a Romanian daddy one day. How is the Romanian dick? Massive. Don't quit. Holly, I'm... I'm like, literally in the shower. I'm like, Jake Shane.

I'm the shit. Oh, my God, Holly. Well, we actually fucking love you. I was in such an anxious mood before this phone call. Like, literally. spirally, like recording, like actually tweaking. And this made my entire day. You've made me feel so much better.

I love you guys. We love you. Congrats. Like the least anxious guests you could have. Yeah, I know. That's why I like feel safe being like I'm anxious because it's just Brett. But do you want to give a little high pussies? Oh my God.

Hi, pussy. Hi, Holly. Tense up. We love you. We love you. We love you. Congrats. Love you, Holly.

Bye. obsessed with Holly. Obsessed. With Holly. I love that she was in the shower. Same. Like you declining the calls. Like valid.

What should I do when my best friend is not talking to me because her boyfriend said that he had a crush on me, but I've never met him. I know it sounds weird, but I swear I've never seen this man in my life. She is so pissed at me and not at him. Like she's not even going to break up with him. I'm at such a loss because I've had nothing. to do with the situation but involves me and IDK what to do help please your best friend sounds

incredibly insecure yeah she sounds like the worst and this relationship sounds miserable and despicable yeah and like that's but i will say like i love i actually love the term hold space we can hold space for the fact that like this does make you upset and like you are losing a best friend and like yeah but there are certain situations where it's like there is literally nothing you can do like you can't take her and shake her and be like you are being crazy yeah because she won't listen she She won't listen. Like being in a relationship, especially a toxic one, which like, I don't know if this is toxic, but it sounds toxic obviously. Like it clouds your judgment so much.

And like, no, it doesn't matter if it's toxic or not. It's the truth. Yeah. And you cannot, you cannot make her, like, she's clearly being irrational if she's blaming this on you somehow, which is just bat shit crazy. And so unfortunately, like, I do hope that one day she comes around and realizes that this was insane of her and apologizes. But like, for now you just got to be like. you gotta just, it sucks.

Yeah. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. She watched Tommy Lies. Prescription, tell me lies. Yeah.

I prescribed to you, tell me lies. I just became friends with benefits with my ex-boyfriend's brother. Am I going to hell? Dash Rebecca. No. You're not going to hell.

You're a boss. You're a boss. That's awesome. And I prescribed to you. I prescribed John Tucker must die. Because in John Tucker must die, The main character ends up hooking up with John Tucker's brother, which is Penn Badgley. I'm sorry for the spoiler alert.

Yeah. But that's what I prescribe. Have you ever seen John Tucker Must I? Of course. It used to be one of my favorite movies. It's the best movie ever. It's an amazing movie. Yeah.

That's sick. Can you do a few shows in Europe? I feel so left out, sweetie. Pussies, do I have news for you? I'm planning that right now. Really? Yeah, I am. Wow.

See, it's like still in the baby stages, but we're getting dates and we're going to do London, Scotland. We're going to do, you. UK, just like over the UK in general, Scotland and Ireland. You should do Spain. Yes. You have pussies in Spain. Do what? There's a girl named Alicia.

Uh-huh. Alicia maybe is how you pronounce it because she's Spanish. And she said, tell Jake to come to Madrid and come with him. Oh, what? I'm down as fuck for that. And so if you're watching this girl, I hear you. I'm advocating. Okay.

Okay. So my sister has been hiding her boyfriend from our family for over a year and we just found out she's been going on dates with other guys. What should we do? Do we accept it even though it's wrong? Wait, what? There are many layers to this. Okay, let's address the first part.

Your sister is hiding your boyfriend. What would you do if Hannah or L hid their boyfriend from you? Have they ever done that? No. Yeah, I don't think they have. And I would just, that would just be very strange. And, like, that would also just, like, signal that, like, clearly they shouldn't be with this person because there's a reason why they're hiding him, you know?

Or do you think there's also, like, this person should, like, look inward and, like, maybe there's a reason. But clearly this girl is not a good person because she's going on dates with other people as well. Yeah. So I'm confused. Like what is this girl concerned about the fact that her sister's cheating on her boyfriend or the fact that they don't know the sister's boyfriend? I don't know. I can't tell.

But there are many layers. I think you need to have a conversation with your sister. Yeah. I got rejected from my dream uni and I stayed in my home country. Still in a good uni, but it's not the same. And all my best friends are in different countries. I'm adapting and making new friends, but I feel like it would have been better. otherwise should I try again because I'm so genuinely tired but I can't let go of my dream.

In my opinion, I would try again. I wouldn't let you being tired deter you from something you still want. But at the same time, if you apply and you end up loving your current situation, which very well could happen, just because you're staying in the same place doesn't mean that you don't love the, you don't love your, you won't end up learning to love your situation at your end or loving it just naturally. but I would apply just so you have the option it's always good to have an option.

Yeah. And you never know if you don't try. Yeah. You will never know. I agree. You don't want to live with that regret. Yeah, I agree. It can't hurt to like,

I don't know what transferring or what that is in Europe. I prescribe normal people because they went to uni. Okay. Have you ever seen normal people? No. It's really good. My boyfriend works with a girl we both went to college with. We weren't friends and she continues to post him all over her Finsta and real Instagram.

He feels weird telling her to put the camera away And I don't want to be a mean girl And tell her to back the fuck off But this has been happening for months Months anyway, love you Jake X-X-O-X-O-X-O-X-O Love you too I don't think that's a mean-girl thing to say

Like I would freak out I would freak out I would freak the fuck out I would just Why is she taking pictures That's so fucking weird I just like I know Well she clearly has a crush

And your boyfriend Like I don't want us to get in trouble For saying that But yeah Why would be in trouble Is that? Someone will be like, girls and boys can be friends. And it's like, no, of course they can be friends.

But it's like, no one's like posting someone like all over their finsta who like has a girlfriend. Like, you know what I mean? It's just like when a guy has a girlfriend, it's just like a different. It's just rules of it's just it's just unspoken girl code. Like that obviously will make another woman uncomfortable. Exactly. It obviously will. Like I'm sorry if it's rational.

I'm sorry if it's not rational. I mean, I'm sorry if it's not rational. But it's just. That's a thing. It's just how it is. I think it's just like when a girl gets a boyfriend and like even if that guy like has girlfriends, like even if like they're like, oh, well, like we should still be able to do X, Y and Z, like things change.

Like things change. And you don't need to be crazy. Like you shouldn't be crazy and be like, oh, you guys can't hang out. Like whatever. But it's like at the same time like things change when a guy gets a girlfriend. And like it's just out of respect. Yeah. You don't have to apologize for something making you uncomfortable.

Yeah. So true. You don't, you really don't need to. So true. So in the community I live in, everyone gets married by a 22 latest. Do you live in a cult? Like I'm asking respectfully. I'm asking respectfully.

22 is insane. I'm 19 and I've never had a boyfriend. Any advice for putting yourself out there? Also, I love your podcast. I love you too. You absolutely do not need to be getting married by 22. I understand like when you're in an environment where like that's the norm. Like how could you not view that?

that as normal, but I'm 25 and I've never had a boyfriend. And that should be the advice in and of itself. Yeah. I think. I don't think you should get married by 22 either. It doesn't matter. But it is hard to put myself out there. I completely understand where you're coming from.

If you want to put yourself out there more, like, I think my best advice is just remember that like nothing is that serious. And like, it's not going to hurt you by like going out of your comfort zone a little bit and like going on a date or like whatever. Like it's life isn't that serious. Just like go for it. Okay, this one's in Italian. Do any of you speak Italian?

No. Ciao. Volevo sa'e'er your peso. Let's see what that means, shall we? Hi, I wanted to know your price. Well? Expensive. Expensive.

All right. What did we learn today? What a way to end? What did we learn today? Maybe I'm like therapeutizing myself now, but I really need to work enjoying life despite the things I cannot control. Yeah. It's really hard.

And that's something I learned today while I was sitting, talking with Brett and you guys. I love that. What did you learn? I also learned that I'm coming to your Chicago marathon, which I already knew. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I'm trying to think of what I learned. What did we talk about?

I think I just blacked out. Speaking of, let's stop doing that. Yeah. Let's stop blocking out. I don't know. I really don't know what else. That's okay. To be honest, like I'm kind of drawing a blank.

I'm like my brain's completely shot. This was the best. This was the best. I had such a good time. Me too. I'm so happy to back. I'm really happy you're back. I love you. Love you so much.

I love you so much. I love you pussies. Love you pussies. Bye. He's got you on the hook. He's slay it and he's shook. It's therapist, there a pus, there a pus.