There Are No Girls on the Internet - Arrested for making TikToks? Yup. It happened to Coco Briscoe

Episode Date: April 12, 2022

Former comedian Coco Briscoe started chronicling her search for love on TikTok with her popular series Dating DC. It led to her arrest.    The Washington Post- “She started sharing her... dating life on TikTok. She ended up in jail:” https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/coco-briscoe-arlington-tiktok-bartenders/2021/08/14/602f747e-f93c-11eb-943a-c5cf30d50e6a_story.html   Follow Coco on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cocobriscoe    Want to support the show? (thank you!) Subscribe, tell a friend, leave a review, or buy some merch at There Are No Girls on the Internet’s store: TANGOTI.COM/STORE Join our newsletter: Tangoti.com/newsletter Just want to say hello / god dag / Բարեւ Ձեզ ?  We'd love to hear from you! hello@tangoti.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:31 People talk a lot about threats to free speech without mentioning the reality that the people who are most likely to face consequences for the things they say online are people who are already marginalized. And Cocoa Briscoe, a former comedian living in Arlington, Virginia, who was arrested last year for making TikToks is a great example of what I mean. Hi, I'm Cocoa Briscoe and I'm a TikToker. The story of Coco's arrest starts out in a pretty unlikely place, the search for love. Coco was new to the city and was going on a lot of dates. So she started chronicling them in a TikTok series called D.C. I live in D.C. I live in Columbia Heights. I'm not single now, but when I was single, I remember what a, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:03:18 a particular place dating in D.C. is. And so I really appreciated your content because I was like, oh, yeah, dating in D.C. can be kind of a hellscape. And so watching your content, I really felt for you. I mean, not all of your dates were bad, but I really felt like what it was like to be dating and be like, oh, God, am I ever going to find the one? So I always appreciated your content. Thank you so much. So I was watching your saga, and I know that you've probably gotten quite good at describing what happened in 60 seconds, but you were, you know, someone who just made these lighthearted TikToks about your dating life, finding love in D.C. And that actually resulted in you being arrested for making TikToks.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Can you tell us what happened? Yes. So you're right. My series was just about dating. It was very lighthearted. It was about online dating and going on my dates and just about my dating adventures. I used to be a stand-up comedian. And so when I talk about my dates, I do have a sense of humor behind it. I don't take dating super seriously, although I am truly looking for a relationship. I'm looking for love. So I started doing it with no expectation that anyone was even going to watch it. I thought it was just going to be my friends and family and maybe some random people in the internet. And it, it grew pretty quickly, but it was really fun in the beginning because I felt like I had kind of
Starting point is 00:04:35 like a cult following. Like it was like a very specific type of person. And I felt that my audience really related to me. I felt like they were close in my age range. I felt like they understood the struggle. And so it felt like just talking to my friends. I was just coming on talking to my friends about my dating life. And so, as you know, you said you did quite a bit of dating before you got into your relationships. You know, the hell on earth it can be. And it gets expensive. You know, I mean, a lot of times men are gentlemen and offer to pay. But also, there's a lot involved in, you know, buying new outfits or Ubering to and from a different neighborhood, D.C. and the surrounding areas, it's a big area. So I was spending a lot of money on cab fare and stuff. So I decided.
Starting point is 00:05:22 to start going to local places. I also thought it would be a good opportunity to support local businesses in my neighborhood, as well as keeping me safe because dating can be sketchy. Luckily, I hadn't had any super sketchy dating experiences, but it could happen. And so I thought, if I go to local places, then they'll recognize me and they'll know what I'm doing, that I'm on a date, they'll see me going on dates. And so if anything weird ever happened, this is just a familiar place to me. And it was all great. That was working out really great because I was going to places walking distance from my house. And all of a sudden, things started getting very weird in my neighborhood. I am new to this area. I didn't know many people. I hadn't really, no one had really befriended me
Starting point is 00:06:08 locally. But all of a sudden, kind of slowly people started to know who I was. Like knowing my name, and I was, I was feeling like I was getting stared at a lot. I was feeling like a lot of people, were showing up, the same groups of people were showing up everywhere that I was, and I just thought it was a coincidence. It was weird, but I thought, you know, this is kind of, I'm on Columbia Pike and Arlington. There's four bars. The neighborhood people go to the same four bars. Not that weird. Now, people like me loved following the ups and downs of Coco's dating journeys on TikTok, but some people that she encountered in real life didn't have that same response. Some of them are actually really hostile.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Basically, their response was, who does she think she is? Slowly people started saying things to me. If someone introduced me to someone, they were like, I know who you are, Coco. I've seen your TikTok. And I was like, oh, but it was never in a friendly way. It was always in a, like, yeah, I've seen your TikTok.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I'm like, why are these people watching my TikTok? My TikTok wasn't that popular at the time. It's not like everyone watches my TikTok. Like I said, I had kind of a cold following. And so it just kind of got. slowly got weird and weirder and weirder and weirer. And then finally, uh, someone told me about this group chat that was going on that has about 50 people in my neighborhood who all were kind of local yokel, like this is their territory, I think was their feeling. And who's this girl
Starting point is 00:07:35 coming from California doing this TikTok, going on all these dates, like it was a very much, the energy was who the hell does she think she is? Like that's the kind of energy I was getting from these people. And when I was told about the group chat, I originally thought it was just a bunch of people watching my TikToks and making fun of it. Like, look at this stupid girl. She goes on a lot of dates. Like, what a loser. And I didn't really care. I thought it was really lame and uncool. But then it got scary because I realized that some of the employees of these bars that I was going to were letting this group chat know every time that I was in the bar. Coco's in here, guys. And it was a variation of things that were being said. What a stupid whore. Let's banquish her from Columbia Pike. I'm going to end her.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Who chooses violence tonight? And they kept mentioning the word violence. And I get that that's a figure of speech, right? Like, I choose violence. But the way they were speaking about me, the way they were speaking about my body, the way that the language behind it, and there was so much I didn't share on TikTok, I have multiple screenshots, lots of conversations between these people, which in a way I wish, I hadn't ever found out about it, but I'm glad I did because I think if this behavior had continued, it could have gotten very dangerous. I think that kind of group gang mentality of we all have this common enemy bond can really lead to dangerous situations, especially for women.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Finding out that there was a group of people from her neighborhood in a group chat saying these kinds of things about her understandably made Coco feel unsafe. But then, the conversation was a conversation. turned to tracking her specific whereabouts. One day, a bartender at one of the bars she frequented for dates took a video of Coco riding her bike down the street and posted it in the group chat. Coco had had enough. I was shocked when I saw that one of the bartenders had taken a video of me
Starting point is 00:09:35 riding my bike down the street. I had walked into the bar. I was looking for a friend of mine. I just glanced in. I was like, oh, my friend's not in here. I got on my bicycle and I was on my way. I was writing home. It was late at night and she had taken this video and said a bunch of really disgusting things to these people that call me disgusting names and which by the way I do not know
Starting point is 00:09:56 these people. I have no personal relationship with any of these people. And I was horrified. And so I went to the bar owner. I felt like I had a decent relationship with him. He had always been pretty nice to me. And I had never had any type of, there was never a situation with any of these people or any of these places where there was any type of friction. I was just a paying customer going on my dates, having a drink and some food and leaving. That was the entire thing. And when I went to the bar owner, I was like, oh, he's going to be horrified that his employee did this. Because I would, I would be like, this person is fired.
Starting point is 00:10:29 This is unacceptable. And instead of saying, I'm so sorry that happened to you, Coco, we do not condone this kind of behavior. You've been a great customer. I will handle this. He screamed in my face and said, if you don't feel safe in my bar, then you never have to come back. And I was shocked that that was his reaction. After being made aware of the kinds of conversations happening about her,
Starting point is 00:10:51 Coco filed a police report, and she was actually the first person in the situation to contact law enforcement. But she says it didn't really go anywhere. The police basically blew her off. And after getting such a hostile reaction from the bar manager, she felt like she didn't have a ton of options. So she took to TikTok and used her platform, which had once been about a lighthearted chronicling of her dates.
Starting point is 00:11:12 to talk about what she was experiencing. So I took to social media and I said, this really crazy stuff is going on in my neighborhood. And I don't know what to do about it. I didn't know what to do about it. I didn't say the name of the bars. I didn't say the name of any of these people other than a first name because it was in the screenshot from the chat.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Well, after I made the very first video saying this bartender took a video of me leaving on my way home at night and sent it to a bunch of people that talk about violence against me and call me names and are bullies and stalkers in my opinion, because they follow me around. I was like, this is what's happening and I don't know what to do. This woman filed a protective order against me, preventing me from making TikToks, talking about the situation, even though I didn't even know the woman's last name. I didn't know anything about her, and I didn't say the name of the bar. Four police officers show up at my house with a protective order at
Starting point is 00:12:10 4 a.m. I'm a single woman. I live alone. You need four cops with a protective order. And four a.m. And this is an EPO. This isn't just like, oh, I've been harassing someone for a long period. This is an emergency protective order meant to protect people from immediate danger. So, and I'm just on there making a TikTok going, this is creepy. This creepy thing happened. And this woman felt the need to do what she did. And I truly don't believe it's because she was afraid. I truly believe it's because, and I have screenshots from her saying, ha, ha, ha, Coco's going to get it. I have a police officer boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I love this for her. Bragging about it. Bragging about how they were going to end me and they were going to do. So I was like, wow, this is really messed up. Like, really the Arlington police are going to show up in my house and do this. Like, this is ludicrous. And I was like, wait till TikTok, here's about this. And I'd like to say I had already filed a police report about these people.
Starting point is 00:13:17 And I didn't think anything was going to come of it. And it wasn't necessarily to even get anyone in trouble. It was just like, hey, Arlington Police, this group of weirdos is doing this to me. So in case someone decides to unalive me, here's what's going on and here's the people involved in this. And they didn't take it seriously. They didn't investigate. They, in fact, never returned my phone calls.
Starting point is 00:13:38 So the early-10 PD not only didn't care that 50 people had been harassing me and talking about violence against me, didn't give a shit, didn't call me back, but they feel the need to issue a protective order and show up at my house to prevent me from speaking out about people that are doing something really disgusting to me. I was like, wow. And I truly thought it was a joke. I was like, oh my God, once I post this on TikTok, these people are going to leave me the hell alone because the whole world is going to go, what? You can't do that. And of course, TikTok did have the reaction. They're like, what? And then there's a whole slew of women saying, I couldn't get a protective order against a man that was physically abusing me for months, years. And it was just breaking my heart. I was like, this is such a complete abuse of the system. It's disgusting. Let's take a quick break. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
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Starting point is 00:18:07 And made a TikTok naming the bars. Open up, police! That's when the police showed up at her door again. This time to put her in handcuffs and take her to jail for vows. violating the protective order. So after that, I was like, so these people are not only going to continue to harass me, but the owners of the bars are going to do nothing. The police are going to do nothing.
Starting point is 00:18:33 The police are going to harass me. Well, I'm telling where these bars are because if this is what they do to women, people need to avoid these places. So I said the name of the bars. Then I got another protective order. Again, police show up at my house. I think it was like five in the morning this time. But it was only two cops, but they come banging on my door.
Starting point is 00:18:52 That cock knock. Yeah, just banging at the police. Oh, really? And I'm just sitting in my freaking bathrobe. Like, what? Are you kidding? And I videoed the entire thing. I opened the door.
Starting point is 00:19:04 First of all, I couldn't see through that. Like, when I looked through the people, police don't stand where you can see them. These people were standing on opposite sides of the door. I was like, I cannot see you. How do I know this is the police? How do I know? This could be one of these creepy people from the group chat. I mean, you know, unalive me.
Starting point is 00:19:21 So I put on my camera and I videoed the entire thing. And I was like, what did I do? Like, you're going to have to tell me what I did to deserve a protective order. They were like, we don't know. We don't know. We're just here to serve it. Which is a lie because that officer actually was the one who was monitoring my TikToks. She was with the woman to get her the second restraining order, who, by the way, this woman's boyfriend is an Arlington
Starting point is 00:19:49 and police officer. So these are his buddies doing his dirty work for him. And I was just like, this is ridiculous. I was like, you can't do this to me. This is against my First Amendment rights. I can talk about whatever I want. I have done nothing wrong. And I was like, I don't know, wait around because I'm about to TikTok this. And I was like, you know, are they going to arrest me? I had this like 50, 50. Like, I mean, they could because technically I'm violating this thing. But I was like, really, are they going to, are the Arlington police going to sit there and watch everything I do? And they sure did. And they came back and arrested me. And, uh, they sent five police to arrest a TikToker. Five cops. So, you know, a number of 11 total police that had to deal with me for just making
Starting point is 00:20:39 TikToks. And I'm like, we have too many cops in Arlington. So I'm like, you feel the need to harass me this much, then we got to, we got to do something about this. You all need to be defunded. I don't know, but I'm like, do not make me the criminal when you are not doing anything about the real people who are harassing women. Anyway, that's a very long way to impression. I don't know if you're expecting all of that, but that's basically the gist. And there's so many little nuances. So there were so many like little side stories of people in this group who did approach me in person. and screaming my face and threaten me. Their friends have sent me tons of DMs and created fake accounts to harass me.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I mean, it's nonstop around the clock. And these people were pushing really hard to have me prosecuted for violating these protective orders, which in my first court hearing, the judge said he was just, like, so confused. He was like, how did these even get issue? You cannot get an emergency protective order unless you're in danger. I knew this, which is why in my moment of, you know, about to go to sleep, had wine all night going, come arrest me.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Like, I don't get, I know I was like a maniac and I know half a million people saw that and were like, this girl is insane. I was insane in that moment. I was like, I cannot do this with these people. Like how many times are you going to send cops to my house in the middle of the night, early in the morning? to do this. Like, no, I felt like I was losing my mind, and I probably was. Coco was arrested for violating a protective order,
Starting point is 00:22:23 barring her from speaking about her experiences with the staff at two Virginia bars. But is an order saying that you can't talk about someone on social media constitutional? In an article about Coco's case, the Washington Post spoke to Eugene Volok, a legal scholar at UCLA, who said, an order that says stop talking about this person is unconstitutional, no matter who you are. Yet, Volok, who has been tracking these kinds of orders, says he has identified more than 200 of them. The Post also spoke to Vera Idleham, a staff attorney with the ACLU,
Starting point is 00:22:56 who said, while speech to someone might, in certain circumstances, properly be deemed as harassment if it is unwanted. The same does not hold true for speech about someone, even if it's unwanted. Because think about it, anyone from racist police to corrupt elected officials could use that to stifle legitimate criticism about them. One of the reasons why I wanted to talk to you was exactly that part of this story, right? I'm, I should say I'm no lawyer, I'm no legal expert. But from all the legal experts that I've heard from, including the one in the Washington Post article about your situation, unless somebody is threatening violence or knowingly spreading false information, you cannot tell them that they can't make social media content about a specific person.
Starting point is 00:23:38 right? So like the fact that you were arrested for making TikToks that did not include violent threats or, you know, knowingly, you know, knowingly false information seems to be unconstitutional. And that, that Washington Post piece cites an ACLU attorney and a UCLA legal scholar that say that. And it seems like the courts agreed. First of all, A, how are you not the poster child for the First Amendment and free speech online? And second, how do you think it came that you were arrested for something that seems so patently. incongruous with our constitutional rights to free speech? Well, I'll tell you, corrupt police. Corrupt police trying to protect one of their buddies' girlfriends. And I think that they thought it would just scare me. I think that they thought, oh, well, if we show up with this protective order, that'll shut her up. Four cops at 4 a.m., that'll scare the shit out of her.
Starting point is 00:24:31 And it didn't, because I was like, this is ludicrous. It did shut me up for three days. I didn't go online. and I was like, okay, I guess I should obey this because these people are going to do anything they can to have me arrested. But I think the reason I'm not the poster child is because the police really messed up. And I think that the press isn't talking about it because it's a big deal. And I think that there's so much to it that I think there's a little scared. I really do.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I mean, Arlington now, our local paper here in Arlington, three articles about my arrest. The third one was about the restaurant saying, oh, Celtic House wants to move past the controversy. Well, good for them. I don't because I didn't get an apology. These people humiliated me in the press. They wrote press releases saying I'm a liar. The only thing that I couldn't back up is I said that she got my address from my ID and credit card. And when the restraining order was filed, it said she didn't know the address.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I did not know that because they had my address. But that's the only thing I could figure. knew my full name. She kept writing about my full name in the group chat. She kept saying, call her this. Call her this. This is her legal name. And her friends who were approaching me were saying, we know your full legal name and we've Googled you and we're going to, like, we're going to find out everything about you. We're going to destroy you. Like, it was just so high school, mean girls. But the reason I'm not the poster child for this is because everybody wants me to shut the hell up. Because this is, and you know, and me talking about it as openly as I am,
Starting point is 00:26:07 probably isn't what they want either, but they're not going to shut me up. You know, they have said, well, they can bring the case back at any time. Okay, what did I do wrong? I made a TikTok saying somebody filed a restraining order illegally against me. Like, I'm sorry, but that doesn't feel like breaking the law to me. And the argument that people have made in my comments was, Well, it was in effect when you broke it. Yeah, but how many were going to get filed? How many times? She filed one in Fairfax County.
Starting point is 00:26:39 She filed one in Arlington County because I'm sure Fairfax was like, why are you getting all these EPOs against someone who's done nothing to you? I'm sure they wouldn't grant a second one. I mean, the judge has already said now, again, no basis for this. But if I hadn't spoken out about it, how many times? And I keep saying that over and over. I'm just like, that will make a person crazy. when you know you're not breaking the law and they're using this much, you know, police resources
Starting point is 00:27:06 on you. Like, I'm like literally the least dangerous person on planet Earth. Like I couldn't fight myself my way out of a wet paper bag. You know, like I'm not out here in the streets throwing hands. Like this is what happened. But these people, like, what's so interesting about all of it to me is that instead of apologizing to me, instead of taking responsibility, Because, like, look, it's not every single employee of the bars, right?
Starting point is 00:27:33 So if they just said, wow, so these claims have been made, the woman has the evidence. We're sorry that happened. We're dealing with it. We're investigating. We're going to make sure it doesn't happen again. That would have been the end of it. But these people are, they're relentless. And so they took to the media originally saying that the only reason they did it was to warn people that I was coming.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Or it's just I'm like, I have. have witnesses and everyone in my neighborhood, well, everybody that like has been around me a good amount, they're like, we didn't believe one word of what was written in there. Not one word. They're like, we know you. We all were like, that's not Coco. Like, there's no way this is true. So people who know me know it's not true. But, yeah, I mean, so yeah, originally they were saying, oh, we just did it to warn people. Bartenders do that. Yeah, bartenders do that. If there's like a drunk person coming into a bar that shouldn't be served, that that is to keep people safe. But that's not the conversation. And I have the conversation. This conversation is about humiliating me, calling me names,
Starting point is 00:28:38 bullying me. There is not one thing concerned about my safety. In fact, it's all about putting my safety in jeopardy. I even have a screenshot from one of the other bartenders from another bar, not related to these two places saying, hey guys, FYI, Coco's in here. Do not come in here and be dicks. So he knew that these people were after me, right? And so I'm like, I have all of this evidence. So they just kept like raising the like just raising the stakes. They were like, you know, it's just we were trying to keep her safe. And then it was she's violent and she attacks people. And I'm like, okay. And then they were like, the only way she found out about the group chat is because she drugged someone and took their phone. And I'm like, oh my God. I have 10 witnesses
Starting point is 00:29:21 to the guy who gave me the screenshots of the group chat. There were 10 people there who were my friends because we had been out together, and they pressured him to give me the screenshots. We didn't bully him. We were like, you need to give her these. So she has the evidence because she can't back up her story without it. So I'm like, but it was just on and on and on. And I'm like, just leave me alone.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Good Lord. Anyway. After Coco started speaking up about, her experiences at the bars, experiences that she says made her feel unsafe in her own neighborhood, someone created a TikTok account dedicated to calling her a liar. I've seen the way these people are like almost obsessed. Like there's TikTok accounts. Like somebody has made a TikTok account solely dedicated to you.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So like when we say things like, oh, like they seem like they're obsessed with me. That's how I would describe. If somebody spent their time making lots and lots of content just about me and how much they didn't like me, I would use the word. I would feel like they were obsessed with me. And I've actually given this a lot of thought. And it's not a fully fleshed out idea. But I think there is something to this idea that you were not willing to shut up, that you are like assertive and confident and like are able to be like, no, I am going to advocate for my own safety. And I don't really care if you like it or not.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I don't really care if you wanted me to shut up. I don't really care if it makes me look, if you're going to make me look crazy, I'm going to advocate for my safety. I think there is something about that, that makes them even more, like, relentless, right? I think that, like, they really expected you to be scared off or to, like, not say anything.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Like, I know in my life, when I've had times where somebody was mistreating me, when I, when I stood up and said, no, they were not expecting that. And I think there's something about you that, like, it just gets under their skin that you're confident and assertive and that you're not willing to just, like, lay down and take it and be humiliated. You're, like, not willing to let them do this to you. And I think it makes them that much more angry and that much more, like,
Starting point is 00:31:35 obsessed with, like, I don't know, there's something about the way they talk about you online where it feels like they're obsessed with, like, taking you down a peg or, like, you know, putting you in your place. It feels very like, I don't even know the word for it. They seem like they're very interested in, like, humbling you in this very specific way that I think is very much rooted in, like, misogyny or, like, sexism. It just seems very... I can't quite describe it, but do you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:03 Yes, I do. And that was actually the word I was always using, that these people are completely misogynistic. You know, the things that they have said to my face, like, the way that they insult me, It's always about my age. I'm 39. Oh, my God. 39. You may as well crawl into a grave and die.
Starting point is 00:32:21 39. Not dating and single and not be home, taking care of 10 kids and like washing my husband's laundry. Like, it's like that's the way they talk to me. And several of them have been like, we know you're on TikTok and you're 39. Like grow up. You're so disgusting.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Like, it's just always about my age. That's like the main. thing. Yeah, the energy is very much like, who do you think you are? Why do you think you can do this? And I think my series has always been authentic. Like, I'm not on there being like, oh, look at me. I'm hot shit. And I get all these hot guys, because I'm so perfect. No, like, I go on there and I am talking about guys ghost me and things happen. And my love life is not perfect. My life is not perfect. I am not perfect. I make mistakes on dates. I embarrass myself accidentally. Like, so there's no need to knock me down a peg.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Like I'm, I feel like I'm already pretty humble. I'm putting embarrassing stories online. Like, I tell my audience when I like almost shit my pants in a target parking box. I'm not on here just acting like I'm little Miss perfect because I'm not. And so this commitment that these people have to just, they're trying to cancel me.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And I'm like, why just stop watching me? Like, I'm not, it's not like I'm making a ton of money and they have. have something to completely be jealous about. Like, I live in a studio apartment in bum fuck Arlington, Virginia. I'm dating a bunch of weirdos.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Like, there's no reason. Go on someone else. Like, I'm not the one. But, yeah, I mean, the dedication to just shutting me up, to silencing me, to humiliating me, it's just like never ending. And they think, you know, they called their, well, actually, I don't even want to say what their page is called, because I don't, when I'm promoting. it at all. But their, you know, their whole platform is trying to say that I'm endangering people
Starting point is 00:34:17 by speaking out about how they treated me. They're like, well, we're getting prank phone calls at our business. Well, good. I'm fucking glad that people are calling and telling you exactly what they think of you because you're disgusting. And you shouldn't be treating your customers this way. You shouldn't be treating women this way. So I don't care. But, you know, the woman that has a biggest fuss, the one that, you know, filed the protective orders against me, admitted in the court of law that not only have I never threatened her, that none of my followers have ever threatened her, and that she's never had any contact with me at all whatsoever, ever. Other than, other than once she was taking a video of me in Georgetown. She walked past my table and took a video of me and I
Starting point is 00:35:06 approached her. She was with her police officer boyfriend and I said, I just saw you take a video of me. please do not share my location with your creepy friends. I know what you guys are doing. I do not appreciate it. And I was like, what you're doing is illegal. And she looked at her police officer boyfriend, really freaked out, was like, is it, is it illegal? And he was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Like he just didn't know what to say. And my friend who was with me was like, well, if it's not illegal, you should at least lose your job for doing that to your customer. And that's all we said. So that's the only time that I have ever spoken to that woman in my entire life. I do not know anything about her. The bottom line is that, you know, for me now, I feel like my mission is to raise awareness about other women
Starting point is 00:35:48 who are going through similar things. Like, that's been kind of a mission I've been on a little bit. And then also, like, you know, shedding some light on this police situation. More after a quick break. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Oden.
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Starting point is 00:40:04 and it's a hard thing to talk about. You know, but acknowledging the privilege in being able to get arrested in not having like a fear, you know, and I think that's something that did upset some people like, look, she's lax. thing and being like, ha ha, come arrest me. And in the moment, I didn't have to think about what this would mean to other people. And I have, I have friends of color who were like, Coco, you know, one person said, well, welcome to being black. Wow. This is something that people feel happens to them a lot, that they're made to be criminals and they're being harassed by the police. And so, you know, it's such a touchy subject that I haven't figured out how to really address,
Starting point is 00:40:45 but I've just been trying to listen and be open more with my friends. One of my friends who is from Pakistan originally or his parents were has said he lives in a predominantly white town, a small town in Virginia. And, you know, he has said when I leave the bar at night, I have to be extra careful. You know, where my white friends could just be like, oh, I'm leaving a bar, I'm drunk and that's fine. And police don't harass. He's like, I have been harassed multiple times by local police. Just leaving a bar, not even drunk, just leaving walking out of a bar. and being stopped just walking down the street and things like this. And so, you know, there's, especially the last couple of years, like, there's just been so many issues with cops. And I'm just
Starting point is 00:41:27 thinking to myself, like, we have got to speak out about this because it can't just keep happening. We can't keep using these resources to harass and bully people. And whether it's because of the color of your skin or because you pissed off some cop's boyfriend or whatever the case may be, It just can't happen. It's got to stop because it's ludicrous. And I think that's the most upsetting part for me overall. And the second most upsetting part is how the media has handled it, especially the local media with ARL Now and all of their stuff. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I did notice that ARL Now, you know, they had those three different articles about the bars and this and that. When your case was dismissed and you were vindicated, just to tell you. tiny little blurb, no article, just like a tiny little, oh, you know, that story that we put, we had, we had so many articles on, a little update, you know, no, no, it's so interesting to me that they didn't feel the need to write an entire story about the fact that, uh, your protect, the protective order was deemed to be invalid. Um, yeah, it's, I just found that interesting. To me, that seems like such a better story. Other than, oh, some TikToker had a spat with restaurants. Who gives a shit? No one. No one cares if some TikToker had a spat with restaurants. Like,
Starting point is 00:42:45 that's not a story. To me, the story is, hey, illegal protective orders are being issued in multiple counties here to further bully and harass a woman who has made a police report about this. The police did not help her, but they helped this woman who was in fact harassing her. Like, how come we can't get a story? And we can't get a story saying, well, Cocoa Briscoe was telling the truth all along, it turns out. and it turns out the charges have been dismissed. The case has been dismissed. It's all over. Yay, she can go back to doing dating TikTok and talk about how, you know, this harassment of women needs to stop. Maybe some good will come out of this. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no article. In fact, all they do is praise these bars. They won't pass the controversy. Well, I'm not. I'm not moving past it. And I'm not moving past this with ARL now either because they owe me an apology. Yeah, the article really, the Arlington Now coverage, really just, it seemed so obviously based on really misogynistic stereotypes. Like, oh, she's railing against this bar. And I was like, well, someone who was speaking up about something they experienced, even using, like, the words they would use basically seemed like the long form version of, bitches be crazy. Am I right? Like, it just seemed to like really rely on a lot of sexist tropes about women.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Right? Absolutely. And I'm, it. The whole. whole situation started making me feel like I was going bananas because I'm like, I'm the only person in this scenario that hadn't told a lie. And I had a platform to demolish these people. I could have gone on and just started making up stories about these people, but I didn't. I was like, this is what they did. This is how they reacted. Here's my proof. The end. and everyone else involved, I mean, the woman who filed a protective board is completely made up ludicrous stories to tell in court. I'm like, she is lying on the stand. Like, I wish you could have been in that courtroom seeing my reaction to these ludicrous things this woman was saying.
Starting point is 00:44:52 I was laughing out laughing out. Like, I'm like, oh my God, am I getting the giggles in court? Like, this woman is insane. And my lawyer at one point just like reached over and kind of like, squeeze my eyes. I was like, like, what is this woman saying? And I'm like, oh, my God. And the writers for ARL now are right there, just going to write everything down that she says. And the woman is acting like, I have attacked her. She's like, I am terrified of her. I can't even look at her in the courtroom because I made a TikTok telling people what you did to me. That makes you terrified. And
Starting point is 00:45:26 she does this whole elaborate story. And then my lawyer is like, but has, whoever ever threatened you at all or had any contact with you. No. Why are you so scared of people knowing the truth about you? That's the fear. That was the fear. And she's just not a nice person. And that's fine. You don't want to be a nice person? Who cares? But do not send cops to my house and do not publicly humiliate me and tell lies. And I'm just so angry at how nobody bothered to do research. Nobody just bothered to see that I had been talking about being afraid of these people for weeks. Like, I don't know. I'm getting very heated when I talk about it because I just, I don't know what to do about ARL now.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I just, I want to, I don't know, sue the pants off of them. After the courts dismissed the protective order against her, and prosecutors declined to pursue the charges that she faced for violating it, Coco started using her platform to become an advocate for other women who have spoken up about facing unsafe situations at bars. So there is some, like, I don't know what to say good coming out of it, but I know that recently you've taken to using your platform to really help other women who have had dangerous experiences at bars, trying to get them, like, use your platform to get them some accountability. You know, can you tell me how that came to be and how that's going? You know, that was never my intention, although I, you know, if I can be of service and of help to these women, I absolutely will use my platform to do that. It wasn't even something that I planned or thought of.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But after my whole court situation, people got very interested in the story. And then people tag me in these videos. So these are videos I haven't come across on my own. People tag me and they're like, hey, Coco, this is either similar to your story or look what's happening to this person. and I was just kind of reacting to it. Like, oh my God, this is a trend. This is happening. There was the one bar in Fullerton that is threatening to sue a woman who got drugged
Starting point is 00:47:31 and sexually assaulted in their bar. She took to social media and was like, this bar is not safe for people. She actually did have a medical exam. And so she was, in fact, assaulted. A lot of times, and I heard this from a nurse who specializes in doing the testing. for women who have been drugged and assaulted, who said most of the time, by the time they get to the testing,
Starting point is 00:47:53 the drugs are out of their system, and they're not traceable. So that's not always a thing people can prove. They say, oh, I got drugged, and then the toxicology or whatever report comes back, saying that there isn't something in their system, I'm not a doctor, and I don't know, but this is just something that was told to me
Starting point is 00:48:09 from someone on TikTok. But anyway, yes, as far as threatening to sue this woman for posting about it online, And I'm just like, wow. Like to me, that is just so disgusting. And that's what the bars did to me. They took to the media, calling me a liar and then threatened to sue me. And they had told the Washington Post that they were thinking about filing a lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I'm like, for what? For saying your bar makes me feel unsafe? I can say whatever I want. I mean, we can take to the internet, be like, their food sucks and the place is disgusting. And the service is awful. Like, why can't I say it's unsafe? That's not illegal. You cannot sue me for saying that your bar makes me feel unsafe and then showing proof of what you did to me.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Like, come on. And yeah, there were things that I initially when I talked to the Washington Post couldn't fully back up. But I can now. Being tagged in these videos, it upsets me because I'm like, this is just incredibly common. It's easy when you're going through something personally to feel the weight of it all, to feel isolated, to feel like it's only happening to you. and knowing that these similar situations are happening in women everywhere across the country, I want to do everything I can to help them. And I want to help them avoid my experience because it's bad enough.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Like each step of the way for me was very humiliating and scary. But then knowing that, you know, the newspapers are printing lies about you. The police aren't willing to protect you. It's like, it's terrifying. And I consider myself to be a pretty confident person and a pretty tough cookie. And this whole situation was so mentally and emotionally damaging for me that there were days that I couldn't get out of bed. There were days I couldn't handle it. And, you know, these situations are happening to women much younger than me with not a following on TikTok that can stand behind them like an army, you know, and not awesome people saying, please be on my podcast and tell your story, right?
Starting point is 00:50:05 So, you know, we have to be voices for those people. I don't feel like I actually have a choice at this point because I can't ignore it now. I can't just, when people tag me in this, I can't just be like, oh, that's sad. Let me just go back to talking about what, like I can't do it. I have to address it. So, you know, the big question now is, will this become what my content is about? And maybe I feel like as long as I'm being tagged in these videos, as long as I'm aware of a situation and I feel like I have something to add or something to say, then I will say it and I'll speak out. But yeah, I feel like this whole situation has really turned my life into a different direction than I was not expecting.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And I do feel the weight of that. And I have kind of taken a break from social media a little bit recently because it gets very overwhelming. And I love, I love getting private messages from people. I love that they share their stories with me. And I love reading this stuff. it's just a lot sometimes. So I have, I'm still a person and TikTok isn't my job. I mean, it is my job. I guess I get paid for it. And, you know, it's a little bit. But I'm also a person and I have to cultivate my own personal relationships in my life. And I don't want to spend all day
Starting point is 00:51:26 talking to strangers on the internet. You know, I want to be with the people in my life and love them and spend, I don't want to be the girl that's always on her phone. That's so insulting to people that I love. I'm out with my friends. I'm out with my friends. When I'm on a date, I'm on a date. I'm not going to sit there and TikTok. And sometimes I make little videos of restaurants and stuff. But, you know, I'm not going to be replying to all these comments all day long because I can't.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And so I try to read as many as I can and reply to as many as I can without overwhelming myself. Because I feel like, you know, when you're on a platform like that, you grow so quickly. You're not prepared. No one prepares you for what it feels like. to be bombarded with so much information and so many people wanting to talk to you. And it's a gift, really, but it also kind of sometimes feels overwhelming. I can only imagine. And I guess that's, I mean, talking about like a happy ending, you know, following your content. I know that you have a lot of like positive, exciting things in your life, in your real offline life developing. And so it's kind of like
Starting point is 00:52:37 a nice bookends to the journey of you starting this channel to chronicle your journey in D.C. looking for love, you know, having it, having it be in this point where you like are, you seem like you're in a good place in your real life. I am. I have been really blessed with meeting so many wonderful people. And actually, most of the people in my life currently I've met on TikTok, which is so weird. but they have become real life friends and my friends have been incredibly supportive. I mean, all of this stuff that has happened to me was so much. It was very emotional and I lost people in my life over it.
Starting point is 00:53:21 There were people that kind of distanced themselves. They were kind of scared of this group of people as I was scared of them because these people were harassing some of my friends as well. And people took a step back for me and that was one of the hardest things. But I understand and I can't ask anyone to fight my battles for me. for me or even be here through that if it makes them uncomfortable. But the friends of mine who have stuck around are lovely and supportive women and they're strong and they're kind and they have my back.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I have been doing well in my dating life. I have met someone finally that... Who maybe looks like Harry Styles? He looks like Harry Styles. Yeah, like Harry Styles. He's wonderful. He's just such a kind man and he has been really supportive about all of this. And this is, all of this was very scary to tell people about like, hey, I got arrested for making
Starting point is 00:54:10 TikToks and the newspapers make me sound like a psycho. Like, it's a hard thing to bring into an already complicated situation because dating is already difficult enough. But he was very receptive and open to hearing my side. And he has just been really wonderful. And it's still new. So who knows what's going to happen. But I feel like I have a new friend in my life and somebody who does care about me that I care about. And I, you know, I hope the best for us in this journey going forward. It's so far so good. I have started a new job that I like and my, my coworkers are lovely and my boss seems to be great. And so, you know, it's now moving forward. I'm just trying to look for the good things. And that's trying, that's what I'm trying to focus on. It just feels sometimes like the negative voices are
Starting point is 00:54:58 louder to us. And, you know, I'm trying to find peace with, if I am choosing to move forward with being a content creator, putting so much of myself out there publicly, this is just going to be part of it, the hate and the trolling and all of that. But speaking out about women's safety is something that I will always do, and it's becomes such a huge deal for me, and hopefully I can help protect other women. Got a story about an interesting thing in tech or just want to say hi? You can reach us at hello at tangoody.com.
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