There Are No Girls on the Internet - DISINFORMED: CBS erases Black women in a story about racial bias
Episode Date: May 21, 2021Joy Buolamwini, Timnit Gebru, and Deb Raji, are Black female scientists who conducted groundbreaking research on gender and racial bias in facial recognition technology.So why did CBS completely eras...e their work in a story about racial bias?SIGN THE PETITION: https://campaigns.organizefor.org/petitions/black-women-did-the-work-then-they-were-denied-the-credit?share=0dd37fd3-eb5c-4e5a-820c-f1f4a48d076a Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm Bridget Todd.
I talk a lot about hostility toward underrepresented voices and technology
and how it ultimately hurts us all.
And facial recognition is a great example of what I mean.
We know that facial recognition technology is unreliable
when it comes to people with darker skin tones and women's faces.
And with the rise of this technology being used for things like policing and surveillance,
this is obviously a pretty big problem.
We've already seen reports of black people being arrested for crimes they had nothing to do with,
based solely on the use of faulty facial recognition software.
This is what happens when black women are treated like outsiders in tech spaces.
If the technology that plays such a big role in all of our lives is built by teams of homogenous people
with biases they might not even realize, that technology can go on to harm us all.
Now, the reason that we know about the gender and racial biases encoded into facial recognition technology at all
is because of the labor and talent of black women AI researchers who studied it.
Joy Bula Mweeney, Tim Net Gaburu, and Deb Raji are black female scientists
who've conducted groundbreaking research under racial and gender biases of facial recognition software
and artificial intelligence.
If you've seen the documentary coded bias, then you've seen some of their amazing work.
It's actually on Netflix right now, and I highly suggest you'll check it out.
But if you watched 60 Minutes last week, you would never know that it was black women
who first did this groundbreaking research.
That's because even though 60 Minutes producers reached out to Joy, who is also the head
of the Algorithmic Justice League, an organization that raises awareness about the harms of AI.
They just erased her voice from a story about the use of facial recognition to arrest two black
people for crimes they didn't commit. Instead, they interviewed Patrick Grother, a white male
computer scientist. Now, no one is saying that Grother doesn't know his stuff, but he himself
correctly cites the work of these black women and acknowledges that theirs was the landmark study
on bias and facial recognition and that their work was the motivation for his own work.
So why didn't CBS feel the need to cite them at all?
Even worse, Joy says that CBS actually did reach after her.
She says that she spoke to 60 Minutes producers for hours
and spent time building a custom demo for Anderson Cooper
and made recommendations on research to include
subjects to interview with the emphasis on stories of black people
who have been falsely arrested because of AI.
She was on her way to get COVID-tested for the interview
when at the very last minute it was canceled.
This is erasure of black women's labor, voices, and talent.
And it's even worse that it happened on a segment about racial bias.
Why wouldn't CBS center the black woman who pioneered this research
on a story about the way that it harms the black community?
Why but they only talk to white researchers?
And it's the same thing that so many black women in tech have talked about.
We aren't seen as experts, even in the fields that we build.
Joy is not taking this.
She launched a petition demanding CBS'I.
apologize and take specific steps to make sure that black women are properly cited in the future,
which just goes to show you that black women are pretty much always doing the work that makes
things better for everyone. Those reporting on algorithmic biases and discrimination must prioritize
the perspective of those doing the work, who are often marginalized voices themselves.
This erasure is routine. This is systemic. For centuries, the labor of black women has been
kept in the background, behind closed doors, and out of the public view. Black women and the brilliant,
cutting edge, field leading, and sustaining work that they do
must not be erased any longer.
The petition reads, and you can sign the petition at the link in our show description.
CBS, and honestly, tech in general, needs to stop sidelining black women.
It is black women who consistently do the work of making tech safer and better for everyone,
and we need to be recognized for it, not erased or silenced.
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