These Fukken Feelings Podcast© - Season 2.5 - Episode 103 - Interview with Kamau Ż. Åkabueze - Founder of THE ÅŁïEN SCõÖL

Episode Date: April 15, 2023

Send us a Text Message.Are you looking for a new way to unlock your creative potential and tap into your inner genius? Then you won't want to miss the latest episode of These Fukken Feelings Podcast! In Episode 103, our hosts are joined by Kamau Akabueze, founder of "THE ÅŁïEN SCõÖL", a platform that helps individuals harness their creative energy and unlock their full potential. Kamau shares his expertise on the connection between emotional intelligence and creativity, providing listene...

you don't have to be positive all the time it's perfectly okay to feel sad angry annoyed frustrated scared and anxious having feelings doesn't make you a negative person it doesn't even make you weak it makes you human and we are here to talk through it all we welcome you to these fucking feelings podcast a safe space for all who needs it grab a drink and take a seat. The session begins now. What is up guys? Welcome to these fucking feelings podcast. I am Micah. And I'm Rebecca. I got Rebecca over here with me and our guest Kizza. He is the Kizza. I believe only you can sell you like you can sell you. So tell us a little bit about yourself. I appreciate that. That's quite the compliment.

My name is Kamau Akabuizi. I am a retired ad veteran who spent a couple of decades in a great career working around a lot of really, really wonderful people helping to design really incredible campaigns, craft incredible stories about some of the different brands that you all love. I've had a raucous, amazing career during what I do as a result. I've really had the best time over that 25 years. And I've gone on to open up a school called the Alien School, where I help creative beings like yourself understand their creativity deeper and further and with more richness and more deafness, real command of your creativity, because we're all creative beings, and we oftentimes don't recognize just how creative we are.

Sounds good. I actually live inside my imagination. I'm glad that you know that. That's important to know. I live in my imagination because if I got to accept the world, this world, the way it is sometimes, I don't know that I could. But he shares it with the world, though. Yeah, I do share it with the world. Which is great.

So that's pretty cool. But can I ask with the world, though. Yeah, I do share it with the world. Which is great. So that's pretty cool. But can I ask why the alien school? Well, I mean, the alien school is, you know, really simple. When you don't understand how deeply you live in your imagination, as you understand. Right. The other side of that feels wild. deeply you live in your imagination as you understand. Right. The other side of that feels wild.

It feels wild. And it creates a sense of alienation from yourself, from the environment that you're around, the people you're around, your family, your friends, the people you thought were friends, that person that says something about you that you don't know why they said it, you know, you're just in your imagination.

Right. And you're creating stories and you don't understand how great a storyteller that you are. And so unspooling that and understanding that, understanding all the things that we create every moment, every day helps to release from that feeling of alienation from yourself, from your own creativity, uh, and from the world around you. So when did you like, know that this was like your path? Like I need to help people learn about their creativity. Well, um, from a metaphysical sense sense at some point in the bardo states i dove in was like i'll take this journey you know from uh from a just living standpoint i think it's something i always knew

you know my grandfather was a teacher my grandmother was an incredible teacher. There's teachers all the way through my family. My mother's a teacher. And what I realized that I did best, you know, throughout my career was help people to understand things, help people to understand our creativity. There wasn't a lot that I could really do sometimes through the executive door. And so I had to do what I did in helping to uplift the creative spirit through the side door. And it was more fun that way, you know, kind of like sneaking in and getting the troops riled up to do really, really cool things and do the things that they came to the companies to do. I would oftentimes run into, you know, creatives who would state, I came here to do this.

I haven't been able to do this. I don't know exactly what I'm doing here, but I like the people and I like the kind of work that we do, but I just am not doing what I do best, what I came here to do. And that was just a running theme that I encountered once I started getting into managing creatives and working with creatives and working with all the different parts of agencies. And one day it just really hit me that it wasn't the brands or the companies or anything that was activating that thing that I do. You know, it was just me doing what I do best, which is uplifting the creative spirit.

And when I have an opportunity to do that, when a creative, when someone comes to me and gives me the opportunity to help them to see themselves and see their creativity in all ways, in all forms. It's pretty magical what can happen after that. And so just seeing that as the thread of my career helped me to then come back and say, oh, I can just do that for the rest of my life. Right. So when you say like creativity or, you know, creatives, like what does that mean? It means everything. It means everything. Yeah. To kind of build off from that, I was just thinking, what is like the most profound or the most memorable moment or person maybe that you've helped bring out that creativity? What, you know, what creativity, what moment did you bring out in that person or whatever? Oh my God.

That's a great question. Well, my son just turned 16. He is an aspiring race car driver who is a really great race car driver at his age. And. Isn't that scary for you? No way, man. Are you kidding me?

Are you kidding me? Like my son wants to be a race car driver. Come on. Like, that is... Come on, man. I don't have kids. I just feel like I'm going to be terrified. What's his name? I want to make sure. All right. His name is Hamilton

Acabuizzi, okay? His middle name is Basquiat. Hamilton Basquiat Acabuizzi. Okay? Okay. That young man watch for that name it's going to be a great ride I'm watching okay now I appreciate that I appreciate that but you know he him letting me know that he wanted to do what he wanted to do was a huge deal for me in my life because I was not always in the situation growing up to be able to say what I wanted to do or who I wanted to be. And, you know, the philosophy of the school, you know, a lot of it comes from just being a parent just comes from being a parent um and the the wild creative ways you have to look at human behavior especially when you made it

you got to really shift your brain to look at what your child is doing the choices that they're making and and understand the growth that's happening there. You know, the growth that's happening there. Look, he's making some wild choices. They're amazing and hilarious. But I know that he's growing. I know that he's growing, and he's growing because he can say what he wants to be. He knows what he wants to be, and he's going after it. You know, and he's setting goals, and he's going after it as much as I want to be. He knows what he wants to be and he's going after it, you know, and he's taking,

he's setting goals and he's going after it as much as I want to help. He's got the freedom to pursue what he wants to pursue. And that's really at the core of what this is all about, right? So what, what we're living, you know, really should be all about the encouragement really to, to be ourselves and do what we um want to do in life create the kind of things that we want to create in life for ourselves and for each other that's pretty cool and uh because i was just thinking about like how does it how does this tie into mental health but it's like a huge part of mental health, because I think that's part of, you know, I've been this last year has been my journey to self-discovery. So it's been my my way, I guess, into allowing myself to be creative and kind of plan my life the way I kind of want to see my life planned you know um and because of that i feel like i had to let go of a

lot of traumas and mental health issues but it it kind of made us come up with this platform here where we just have people come on and give ways to kind of make it through your issues you know right and i guess a part of that is being free enough to do what the hell you want to do yeah and being creative is a great outlet for mental health issues or you know anything that's going on inside you just letting it out creatively is great. Now, are we taking the term creative too literal? Or does it mean exactly what it means? I mean, is it just being creative? Right, yeah. I'll put it this way.

Truly, every act is a creative act. Every act is a creative act. We oftentimes are challenged with what we see as creativity because of the object that's in front of us. Right? The swing, the record player, whatever, just the thing that's in front of us, right? We just kind of like see object kind of, you know, is what it is, right? We don't take, we don't oftentimes go back and take that from thought. Right? You got to go back to the thought of the thing that became the thing that's in front of you. And all the things that had to go into

creating that thing along the way right now from the thought alone somebody had to create some level of enthusiasm for somebody else like yo let's hang that string over that thing i'll put this wood on it and then we're going to swing on it right right right so every step of that is creativity even the process of creating the enthusiasm between people about this thing right right that's because why is it fun like why is this going to be fun right that is the creative exchange right that exchange of energy is really, really important. So we're always creating, whether we are creating peace, whether we're creating a peaceful environment. I've got the birds going on in the background here. It's nice and quiet and still.

I could also create a really loud environment. Right. I could do that with my, I do that with a DJ booth and music and all that. Or I could also do it with my own personal energy. You get a really loud environment with my own personal energy. So that's thinking about creativity much more globally. So you said your son is racing. Yes.

At 16 racing cars? He is. So he started out on the Sims. He's a virtual race car driver. He races on a platform called iRacing. So he's racing with people all over the globe who are in different variations of simulators and that they have at home. Just playing a game with the steering wheel pedals the whole night. in the vehicle through these simulators is very close to driving a real car

without the physics involved in the physical body. Right. Unless you're going to pay a lot of money and get all the rumbles, everything right. Right. So he's got the, you know, the standard rig and he's racing against people all over the world. And he's been doing that for, you know, about a year and plus, I guess, maybe two years now um but

he said he wanted to race real cars so he put him in my me and my ex-wife we put him in to racing school and uh there's this company called bernal roos down in i live in jersey city new jersey this place is down in millfield mill New Jersey. Something like that. Millville. Anyway. Okay. Anyway. He gets on that track and he gets in the car and it's a four-speed manual transmission race car called

F2000. Okay. Looks like a little rocket ship. Look, it sounds dangerous. Just rickety. It just looks rickety. If he got in that car on the first time driving on this track in this car that goes 130 miles an hour and he was and i don't know if either of you watch racing at all but when i say that he was three seconds faster than everybody in an all ages school of people that paid to be

in the school, three seconds faster per lap on his first time on the track. Hopefully your jaws drop like my jaw drops. Well, I'm more stunned because

I'm like, I don't even want to go. I was driving 90 the other day and I was like, I was so nervous. Like I got tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. He's got the need. Absolutely.

Absolutely. It's amazing. And is racing something you did? Is that something he got from you or it was just completely on his own? I mean, so, you know, my when my ex-wife and I split. We were living in Jersey. I knew that she was going to be moving back to Chicago because that's where she's from. That's where she, you know, her people were and are.

So she moved back to Chicago, removed to Chicago. We were away for a while and then he moved to LA. Now he was always into like trains and locomotion, airplanes, all that. They got to LA and he was seeing like Bugattis and Lamborghinis, you know, in the streets of LA. He was like, whoa. And his brain was just attached to that.

So he went from trains to planes to cars to supercars to hypercars. Anything that went fast, he wanted. The faster it goes, all the way to F1, he's like, look, I want to drive F1. The fastest cars in the world, I want to do that.

You know? It's pretty cool. Pretty cool. And a little scary. I'm not a a parent and i don't want to have kids just because i don't want to go through experiences like this like i'm good um but uh i just couldn't imagine like wow but it is cool kind of to see your child being able to be there so that has to be pretty dope. Yeah. Especially in society that's still as much as nonjudgmental as we are, we're still a very judgmental society. So I want to talk a little bit about the alien school. So what is it that you do there? I know you offer a course.

Definitely. So we're, we're a custom semester based. So for students coming into Alien School, we basically build your semester together and we work one on one to design a. You might have a milestone coming up. You may have something that you are looking to do like transition careers, you know, moving to a new job. You may have a, you know, a big project that you've been wanting, wanting to get a start on and needed to jumpstart. But, you know, maybe just needed that additional kind of push, additional kickstart. I'm there for that, but coming out of the Alien School, what you understand is all the things that you can create,

all the positive aspects of your creativity, all of the opportunities that you have in life to live as a creative and making life more fun when you understand your creativity and how to use your imagination and you kind of walk out in the world with a different vantage point on what you can create. And it just kind of puts a smile on your face and you go off and do some really, really great work. And if you want to come back and work deeper on that, we can. But every semester is a new semester. We set intentions for that semester, what we're trying to accomplish, what you're looking to achieve, what I'm trying to help you towards. And that work is weekly at the beginning and then biweekly, basically over the course of the semester that

we build. There are a lot of tools that you get as a part of the school, inclusive of a living library of assets, videos, content, links, talks, some meditations from myself and some of the other leaders of the different schools. And, you know, our focus is really on a holistic understanding of your creativity and uplifting your creative, creative spirit to a point where you understand what you can do with your, you know, your, your emotional creativity, your practical creativity. It's every act is a creative act and there's so many ways to leverage it and create an environment around you. That's

just artful, just artful because it's coming from your creative energy. So now is there a certain mind frame you think a person has to be in in order to benefit from the school or is it something like you know because I know sometimes people are skeptics to anything you know you said meditation and I know I've tried to meditate and I you know I'm thinking it's two hours and it's only two minutes and I'm like so sometimes I'm skeptical when people say oh meditation and I'm like no you don't meditate like if i can't meditate you can't meditate but um at what point in life do you think people are are like is there a stage in life where people should reach out to you or it's just

something like this this works and if you're looking for something different you should try i think that this goes back to i think the best students the best students right now are the students who are at a point of alienation in whatever state they might be doesn't mean they have to be going crazy doesn't have you have to mean that they are um feeling um you know the the deep deep you know emotional pains that people can feel but at a point where you're just questioning whether you're doing what you can do best in the world and for yourself. And there are degrees of that. I was at a point when I started to seek coaching to understand why I was behaving the way that I was behaving,

I was at a point where I knew I needed to talk to somebody, but I knew that I didn't need a therapist at that point. I needed to take action. I needed to take a step forward. I needed to understand a thing and go in a new direction because my behavior at the time was abhorrent. It was terrible. It was terrible. And I could recognize that. I could see what I had created. I could feel it. I was like, I created this. I did this. So I've got to work my way out

of that. So I called a friend who called a friend and ended up being an amazing coach. We still work together to this day. It was like three years ago. That's pretty cool. But coming at a point of reality, like I know that I can do better than what I'm doing. Right. And again, you could be a peak performer in some ways and say, I still know that I could be doing better than what I'm doing. Right. And again, you could be a peak performer in some ways and say, I still know that I could be doing better than what I'm doing.

And the alien school can help you to supercharge that creative spirit to a point where whatever you're doing, you're doing with joy and a real zest for life and real zest for, you know, understanding even not just your own creativity, but others. Because when you start to get curious about others and what they can do, what they can contribute, how they're using their creativity and how you might be able to help them understand what they can do with their creativity in much more productive ways, it's a really powerful result.

Yeah, I need to do something because I'm trying to quit my nine to five so i might need to sign up because that is my goal i know i could be doing better where i don't got to get up every day at nine o'clock and go to these other people's place and let them tell me what to do for eight hours and then you know so i might be a good i might have to take a look a little look in there because uh yeah you're making me believe in things right now well i always thought i was creative um but i didn't think i was creative you know i'm one of those people like like i'm creative but i ain't that creative so I think that's kind of always been my like, Rebecca is very creative.

Now that I think about it, she is. Yeah, I have my moments. You can't be humble. We can't be humble here. This is not about being humble, right? So what do you create, Rebecca? Well, I don't know specifically what he's referring to but um i like to be crafty if that's what he's referring to um i like to make my own Christmas decorations, that sort of thing. Right now, I started doing cross-stitching

and they think I'm an old lady because of it. We text her. She's like, I'm just cross-stitching. But everything she does, you know, she sees a recipe, she tries it. You know, if it looks good, she tries it. If she sees something's cute, goes to make it if she has an idea then she plans it out and she does it and you know so to me those are kind of like you know i i feel like that's leading up to a worldly creativeness you know i'm saying that those are like you have to continue to tap into that in order to like am i right absolutely because all those things that you're learning those are all going to come together in really, really cool ways. And being an experimenter in that way is so dope.

It's like there's so many people that would not do one of the things that Mike talked about. Not one of them. Right. You're doing all of them. That's amazing. All of them. And, you know, like you said said we all give her a hard time because she cross stitches you know like oh you old lady and you know but really is like yo she cross

stitches you know like she knows how to cross stitch which you know i think is cool yeah it's it's fun it's a challenge so i think that might be part of why I do it because it's not only challenging, but it's rewarding as well and fun. So relaxing and allows me to be creative in a way because there's still a pattern to follow. So the creativity is kind of not so much there, but. Yeah. I mean. Look, she'll never take all the credit. Okay. So now I do this semester. So I do this semester at the alien school or my first semester after my

first semester, what should life be like after that? Or can you say, I know it's kind of like a generalized question but it's like just to give you know like a mind frame like you know what what should i be what should i be aware of like what how open would i be you know because i say right now i'm a pretty close person um i kind of only deal with what's in front of me like i don't care about the news. My mom will go on about Trump forever. I didn't even know he got indicted. Like, you know, I just don't, I feel like those things, I don't know.

I don't want to live in a world where they exist. So it's not that I ignore them, but they don't have to be in my world right now. You know, it's like, isn't that my fight? It's so horrible to say. It's a really, really horrible thing to say it, but it's because I'm trying to like live in peace. You know, I'm trying to find like this peace, but I know that I'm not there yet because I'm still ignorant to a lot of things, you know? So I guess like, that's kind of what my question was,

you know, it was like, I do this first semester with the alien school and we're working on my creativeness, but what would my awareness be? What would my openness be at that point? I mean, in a few ways, um, one of the things, one of the main things that you're going to be aware of is how much time, how much you're able to manipulate time, quite honestly, by having a better understanding of your creativity. Because when you are understanding what you can do, what you can create, truly. You just do it with a lot more fluidity. And so you're not spending a lot of time thinking about what other people are

thinking about. And the more time you spend thinking about what other people are thinking about, the more time that you actually lose. But you're thinking about what other, when you are thinking about what other people are thinking about, you're using your imagination.

When you understand that you can take that and control that, bring that back to yourself and, or use that imagination and that story that you're telling to actually do something creative. Is there a book in there? Is there something amazing in there in that story that you're using your imagination to create? Go with

it. You'll be able to go with it and understand, oh, wow, you know what? That could be an amazing script or I think I need to paint that idea because that's ridiculous or that was really stupid. Why was I thinking that? Let me think about it. That's usually my thing right there. That's my go-to like ain't nobody you crazy ain't nobody gonna listen to this

ain't nobody gonna they're gonna pay for this shit ain't nobody gonna pay exactly oh yeah so every time i think i'm creative or that i do have a story to tell or that in some kind of way I can affect somebody else's life, I lose it. You know, the same way I think it, I lose it, you know, because it's like, really, what do you have to teach anybody? Like, you didn't even know Trump was indicted, you know? I think everybody has their own story to tell. And I think that, yeah, and I think that if they are willing to say it, take the time to say it, there are people who will listen.

You know? Yeah. Okay. Many stories. Many stories. And that's what I mean. Like, when you really observe the magnificence of our imaginations, all the things it can do. Just unconsciously, we can think when we don't want

to do something, when we don't want to do something, the performance that we put on, the performance that we put on when we don't want to do something. Are you kidding me? The fights you pick with your husbands or your wives. You are not wrong. Wow. Okay. Now, when you start to get vulnerable and open up and have real conversations and understand that you could create an environment where all of that energy that went to that wild ass performance you gave could go to an award winning performance. Right. And I give a lot of performances, so. It's pretty cool.

So much wasted energy. Right. So much wasted energy. Well, it's crazy when you think about kind of creativity, you know, we, or people just in general, you know, like Rebecca and I, we kind of think about arts and crafts and, you know, writing a poem and those kind of things. But, you know, in talking to you in this conversation, you kind of see that it's almost like on a spiritual level, like creativity is like, right. So it's up there with, you know, like the God concept is creativity. Absolutely.

Absolutely. We are all creatives. We are all creators. We just have to understand how to use our creativity right and uplifting it thinking great thoughts and seeing all the great shit that could happen when you think great thoughts i mean every look man every self-help self-affirmation think good thoughts it all says the same thing we're like nah nopeaffirmation, think good thoughts. It all says the same thing. We're like, nah, no, I'm not going to think good thoughts.

Screw that. What? Right. Actually, it was funny. I actually just had this conversation with my mom. She's 71, but in her imagination, she's still 20. Okay, okay. Bless her heart. You got a great imagination.

Look at that imagination right she has the imagination now but in her mind you know she just went through like a double heart surgery okay yes she shouldn't have because she's too young okay but she's not 71 in her mind you know it is like which is great kind of like what you said. It's like, we got to live in this reality that you 71 years old, like things don't work like they used to. But, you know, also kind of going into that. Also, it was a really serious conversation about my mom kind of always lived her life expecting the other shoe to drop. You know, and it's like, if you feel that way, always, the shoe is going to drop. Or you're going to miss something in life. Right. And so it's like, stop living. You know, I tell my mom, you are 71 years old.

You made it in this lifetime to 71. All you should be worried about is you. It is your time to be selfish. You raised your kids. You know, we are on our own journeys now. The only worry you should have is you. I guess it's kind of difficult to tell a mama, but, or probably any parent, it's probably difficult to tell any parent that, but you know, it's the truth. Like you made it to 71, you know, it was like, I've seen sacrifice in my mom,

you know, I seen, and you know, just in my parents in general, our whole life, you know, it was like, I've seen sacrifice in my mom, you know, I seen, and, you know, just in my parents in general, our whole life, we grew up seeing sacrifice. So I feel like the thing they taught me was sacrifice. You know, I sacrificed because my parents sacrificed, you know, and it's like, now it's time to change that narrative. And that's kind of like where I am in my life is like, what can I do to change that narrative in my family so that we don't, you know, I would have preferred to see my mom happy. If I would have grew up seeing my mom happy and doing something she loved and being joyful, then I would have known it was okay for me to be happy and joyful. Because now I have these moments where I question,

like, is it okay for me to be happy right now? You know, everybody else around me is miserable and I'm happy. So is it OK for me to be happy at this moment? And, you know, and I think those things prevent me from going where I need to go. But I don't live life like the other shoes going to drop. I live life like I'm wearing two shoes and I need to walk in them and I need to get where I'm going. You know, so I think my imagination plays a huge part in that. But, you know, it's like, how do you get a person to start seeing things a different way?

Or how do you get them to start you know believing in their creativity you know it's like they don't you know i feel like most people you know we are creatives and we do things every day and you taught me that in our first 10 minutes of this it was like okay hold up i don't have my crew okay i'm a creator so just in 10 minutes you taught me that but the school works fast my friend you work really fast it's like okay i don't even i'm ready for my second semester semester one is over but how do you get a person to start believing in themselves as a creator? Oh, man.

Fortunately, truth. Truth is really the way. Right. That's actually a really good answer. I mean, look, at the end of the day, um, we all truly know the answers. Right.

Do we though? We do. We do. Oftentimes cannot hear ourselves say the answers when we're saying it to somebody else. Right. Because we just don't believe that we

are creative enough to solve our own problems. Right. I mean, it's just that. And if we... If we're creative enough to solve someone else's, that's our problem. Correct.

We don't want to mind our own business, but I got all your answers. Every one of them. Every one of them. Every answer. You should do this that way. And you said that because... And then when they don't do it, the. And you said that because.

And then when they don't do it, the first thing you're going to say is, I told you. I told you. And you just sit there and shake your head. But the whole time my lights cut off. I don't got no food in my refrigerator. I'm three dollars away from being evicted. But I got all the answers for you. All of them.

Right. So people need to learn to be creative for themselves. And, you know, we're laughing about it, but it's actually very, like, it's the truth, though. It's like you're the creator of your universe you know yours and where you will impact others you know that's kind of like not your choice or decision or you know it's like whatever whatever they get they get yes i'm guessing no you're right you're absolutely right you're absolutely right but so that truth comes from the dialogue that we have and the work that we do to actually get the students going on the things that they've been stalled on or circling on right seeing me working with students helping them understand their truth just relaying back to them what they told me about themselves, which is just truth. It's just beautiful truth.

I'm like, cool. Thanks. I heard that. Let's focus in this little area right here. Right. I think you might have missed something about yourself that you just told me that is kind of brilliant that you do. And once we start to unspool those things, right, the brilliance of our imaginations. It just releases a lot of tension, right? And you can then start to see in there a little bit better, like, oh,

now I can see what I create. I can see what I create. And maybe some people need repetitious truth. You know, all those truths brought out, or, you know, you've expressed brought out or, you know, you've expressed those truths while they've expressed the truths in your conversation. And I think repetition is important. Absolutely. You know, at best because of what you do, right. I mean, all that craft work is, you know, mastery through repetition. Okay. He brought that around.

Exactly. Yeah. He brought that around. It takes one to know one. I mean, it's one to know one. So you know that repetition is really, really important. But the repetition is important in the conditioning in the other direction as well. It's life, right?

We've lived these experiences that show us these things over and over again. Now we've gotten to the point where we're like, just show it to me again. Cause I know I saw it before, but I need to see it one more time. And we just keep. Yeah. Yeah. And if, and like your mom, for instance, if she doesn't believe or she's just waiting for that shoe to drop. And he suggested that. She first of all, I got to make sure I don't my mom doesn't watch this episode. He suggested that she learned her truth. Right, right, right.

Yeah, I mean, at 71, she might be stuck in her ways or whatever, but maybe her truth just needs to be more repetitious. I guess that's kind of where I was going at it. Well, the good thing about me and my mom is we have a very good relationship. So we're able to have like those hard truth conversations. You know, I know if my mom is telling me i did something wrong i really did something wrong because you know we she's not afraid to have those conversations with me you know but she also knows you know the same way she kind of has her ways and won't change i'm at that point in my life too where it's just kind of like i'm discovering myself and this is who i am. And if you don't like it, oh,

well, you know, but I don't mind hearing truths about myself either. And I prefer them. Like, I want people to tell me your honest opinion, like, let me know for real. But I kind of wanted to get back to you when you were talking kind of about the spool. Like, how does a person get through trauma to get to their creativity because i know sometimes trauma is a big uh wall that's like in the way from allowing people to to know you know i know a lot of times people don't want to deal with trauma because they feel like they created that so you know so it's like how do how do we get a person to move past trauma to realize that you can create something better than what you're living? Yeah. I mean, one of the most significant ways, you know, trauma, trauma is difficult because of all of the directions that your imagination can go.

Right. Like it's tugging in so many different directions. Definitely. So many different directions, spectrum of things, you know, like tugging at that feeling is, is incredibly difficult to navigate life with. Right. You don't, you're almost like feeling like

you're being tugged, you know, and it's not, or pushed and it's not kind, it's not gentle, an experience, but all of that, and here you are and here you are. Here you are. Right. So you've got yourself to here. What's behind us really has dissolved.

Like there's nothing back there. Right. Know that there are feelings and all that. There's nothing back there. So we're here. There's a lot of times in this situation is just a like a simple question like what do you do with now right it's like they're being present in in in this moment it's not there it's not there right not there. It's not there. Right. Not there. Whatever happened there, what you did, that happened, what they did, it happened, but it's not there. Right. You are here. Right. What do we want to do with right here, right now? What do we want to move towards?

And it's a tough realization, but it's not the first thing, right? This is not the first thing. I'm not like, hey, guys, look, look. But through the stories that we tell, like we understand a bit. We understand a bit, you know, where some of the pain came from through the repeated patterns that we just have in our lives. We can see it in the patterns. Right. Someone else can, anyone else who's going to actively listen to you is going to see the pattern way better than you will. Your brain just isn't designed to see that pattern the way that someone else

can. Right. No, and someone else can actually see that and see the patterns in the patterns. And that's where you recreate a situation this way or that way or this way. And the characters have changed, the situation has changed, but some of the key behaviors are the same that's when you can understand someone's creativity you can see that's funny because you're making me think of like a spider and like weaving a web

you know because it's like you know how intricate webs are and the pattern and design and the time they take to do it. You know, it's like, you know, sometimes I feel bad when I knock the spider web down because I'm like, they took a long time to build this. Actually, it doesn't take long at all. Really? I've never actually watched the web put together, but I just imagine. You've never watched Charlotte's Web?

That was a cartoon. It's amazing. Oh, Charlotte's Web is an amazing cartoon. What are you talking about? It's amazing. Yes, it is one of the best. And it doesn't take long at all for her to make those webs. They had to fit a lot in an hour and 30 minutes.

It's got to be real, Micah. But what you were describing to me kind of sounded like kind of weaving a web. And, you know, it's like making sure the pattern is the right way and that it's in sync. And, you know, I kind of wanted to just point out that, you know, as we're having this conversation, it's just for people who are in stages that they feel like they can't get out of, like ask help seek help you know it's it's kind of our whole purpose for having these podcasts because we're trying to bring methods for people to try you know it's like i didn't want to have the typical mental health podcast and invite a whole bunch of psychiatrists up here you know because it's like you know your textbook you know and the answer isn't always in a book and you might not get anybody past the first 10 minutes right and then of a textbook and i know me if you don't got my interest in the first 10 minutes it's over like i don't move on to the next best thing you know but it's kind of cool to learn

you know you know now we're learning about creativity from you a real person who kind of went through this yourself you know so it's like you're telling us your experience like you know, now we're learning about creativity from you, a real person who kind of went through this yourself, you know? So it's like, you're telling us your experience, like, you know, this works because these are the methods you tried because three years ago you sought help, you know, and it took you going out to seek to kind of find your path and what you're on now. And that's kind of really dope that, you know, we get to share that with our audience because, you know, it's like, I'm telling you after today, I'm never going to think about creativity again. You hear me? I'm not going to think of it the same way after today. That's the point.

That's the point. You're not going to think of it again. Sorry, I meant the same way again. I knew what you meant. Like to me, it's like, you're not going to think of it. Yeah.

I'm not going to think about it at all. I'm just going to think about me, the creator. Yeah. There you go. There you go. You know, so tell us a little bit about what you got going on,

how people can reach you. Yeah. All that good stuff. Definitely. So very much like you, I am not on the internet except for the website for the Alien School. I kind of pulled back a bit. I got my Instagram got hacked a year plus ago. And it was such an interesting situation because it's no one's fault.

Like I knew people who work for the company. I knew people who work for companies that work for the companies. And I worked for a company where that company was a client and no one could tell the robot that I was me. I was like, you know what? That is not the place that I need to be anymore. Right. If no human could tell that robot that I'm me, even when they're inside the robot, I was like, nah, I'm good. That's great.

You never thought about it that way. I didn't either until I was in the situation. Right. Seeing the pattern in the pattern. Right, right. So you can find us at thealienschool.com and spell it all the way you spell the alien school. Right. Pretty simple.

It is a real introduction to my experience that led me into understanding that everyone is a creative, truly. Like seeing it clearly and seeing the power of our creativity and seeing the power in my creativity through my own behavior. My own behavior and my own dismissiveness about creativity for a long time. So I'm very open about that because I know what I've done and I know what I do and I know what I can do for, for people looking to have their creative spirit, you know, supercharged and uplifted. So there, there are a couple of places where you can schedule an immersion.

It's a very quick 15 minute session. If you've watched this, you have been through the immersion okay right you just we have the same conversation i learned a little bit more about you in the process um but that is what that immersion session is so there's a couple spots on the on the website at the alien school.com where you can click on schedule an immersion. Okay. Once you've done that, you get a session with me, that part,

everything up to this point is just you and I having conversations. There's no cost to it. Then we get to the point where if you want to join the school, you get an orientation booklet and it walks you through all the background, our mantra, our mission, a little bit more about the relationship. And then it has a few questions about life. And one of those big questions is about truth and, you know, your life as a creative.

And ultimately, once I get those questions back, that's when we start to work on your building the semester. We'll talk about costs. We'll talk about time. We'll talk about intention. One thing I'll kind of like, when I speak about intention, it's really important. We start each semester with great intentions. If you look up the dictionary definition of intention, the second definition is a term in medicine, which is the healing process of a wound. This is in any dictionary. So when you understand that setting a good, pure intention is supporting the process of healing a wound, physical, emotional, mental, whatever it might be um you take intention setting seriously right and i'm there to help you know work us towards those great intentions

it sounds like interesting like things you just wouldn't think about normally yeah it sounds pretty cool um earlier you had said something about meditation so i kind of wanted to ask how like meditation and creativity kind of, how does that mesh together? Yeah. I mean, to loop it back one more time, you know, that cross-stitching practice, I'm sure that feels meditative at times. I've never meditated, but it does. I mean, I do feel really well because they've practiced for a long time. But if you are doing things that you love or doing things that are creative where you get yourself out of your head and into some medium,

just writing, whatever it might be, journaling, cross-stitching, podcasting, you get yourself out of your head and and into a more kind of listening mindset that's also meditation right because you're you're occupying your mind with something creative something more interesting something that is productive so that's really what meditation is

and when i talk about the meditations that we that that I deliver, I've had to admit over the course of the years that people say that they like my voice. Right. And so my students tell me that. And so I just take things that I'm thinking and I record them for them. It may be thoughts about you. It might be a story that I've read about you from the cosmos through astrological information and those kind of things, but just helping you see yourself a little bit more brightly. Those are things that you can listen to when you're walking, when you're doing the dishes, when you're folding the laundry, that just help you to see yourself in some different lights, see your creativity in a broader spectrum. Um, so when I talk about the meditations, what I'm not talking about is the physical pose, um, but the, the act,

the act of meditation. I'm glad to ask that question though. That's very interesting. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, well, we thank you so much for being on. Yes. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. This is amazing. It definitely was. Like I said, you in the first 10 minutes, I'm a creative. I know it. Semester two. So yeah, I'm gonna hit you up. We're going to go into the second semester. I really appreciate it. We're going to have all your information at the bottom of the podcast.

You guys make sure you check out the Alien School Kizza. I'm going to say that because I'm a little dyslexic. I'm sorry. We definitely appreciate you being on. Once again, people, we do these podcasts to show you that there is more than one method out there.

Just continue to search for yours. Everybody, look out for Hamilton B. He is coming at you. He's coming at you. He's coming real fast. Yeah, 130 miles an hour. All right, guys. Thanks for watching.

We'll see you next time. Thank you.