THIS CAR POD! with Doug DeMuro & Friends! - Calling Out Porsche People! The Cars to Import in 2026! Next Doug Car Already?

Episode Date: December 27, 2025

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and welcome to This CarPod. I'm Kenan. I'm Nick. And this is a special Christmas edition of This CarPod recorded weeks ago because we are lazy. And we don't want to record during the holidays. I'm in Ohio currently. Kenan's in Ohio.

Nick is God knows where. Anyway, this special Christmas edition, Ho, ho, ho, by the way. This special edition, all we're doing is answering previous questions that you've asked us before that we didn't get to. Because we can't, we're not filming this recently, so we can't do the news. You know, I got some future predictions for the news if we did one, too.

Okay. You know, some industry predictions. I think that's a good idea. All right, why don't you start, let's start there, and then we'll move on into the questions that we've prepared. Jaguar is making a New Year's resolution. Yeah. To be back on cars. They're going to start making them, designing them.

Yep. There will be multiple Stalantis recalls because they're Stalantis. Uh-huh. Another EV will get killed. another V8 will come back. I think it's pretty predictable. If you watch these episodes, you kind of know where the world's going.

Yeah, that's true. Okay, anyway, thank you so much, Nick. I appreciate that. Nick, what do you think about Slate? Oh, yeah. This is where my populist political beliefs will come out. Because it's affiliated with Bezos, I'm kind of off it.

You know, there are people out there who think... I know. He's an investor. Whatever. I just... If I can avoid Amazon, I do. Oh, wow. So you just don't use prime. Nick's getting into politics right here in minutes two.

All right. We're going to do questions. You guys have always been lovely and asked us questions. And if you want to ask us questions for the next pod, which we're going to record topically, you go to cars and bins.com, you click on the community tab. There's a post there that says, ask us questions. This week we've gone through weeks of old questions, and I've picked the best ones we didn't answer before. Okay.

Are you guys ready? I've got 20-some. We'll probably only get to half of them. I'm excited for this. Okay. Okay, first question from Doug's not a Porsche guy, which by the way, is true. He's a Mercedes guy, get it right. No, I have no affiliation.

Kia Stinger, GT guy. I did love that car. Doug and Friends, you guys are the friends. Yeah. What's up? Santa? Thank you. Thank you, Santa.

Big Nick. Big Nick energy. Out of all the vehicles you've owned, what was your favorite and why? Well. Nick? I think we all know Kennan's, right? Kennings is his E-39M-5. Yeah.

Yeah. Yes, it was. Kenan likes his E3. I don't know if we've ever made this point in the pod before, but Kenan likes his E-39.m-4. I don't think I've ever mentioned that. So, yes, I really enjoy my early 2000s. If you don't know, he's got a silver, titanium silver. Yep.

It's a 2002. Black Sport interior. Is that the one with the V8? That's the V8 one. Oh, yeah. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Nick?

Yeah, definitely. How many cars have you had, do you think? I've lost count, but enough. Yeah. I don't know. That's a really hard question. They're all, like, great for different purposes. I think if I think about which one I, like, loved the most, you know, like, just has that, like, weird feeling.

It's got to be a B7, Audi. To the RS4 was the best one, but, like, B7s are really what got me, like, just overboard on cars. So probably the S4 that I had, Olin's, I had a big break kit, I tracked it. Wobbleble. We had a lot of fun with that car. Okay, couple things. First off, there's rose-colored glasses going on here. Yep, absolutely.

Ginger. We have my wife missed. Hold on a minute. So the Berego. You loved your P-RU-D-A-G. Your Mercilago stick. The Borago is that the XPA. It was also through my head.

Quattro World forums are paying him to be here today. I don't know if Quattro World is still around. Shout up to Forings, Racers and all that stuff. Really? So you did, I mean, Nick. Yes. I've sold five cars on the site, by the way. Pull up a B-7.

I've sold like nine. Okay. Pull up a B-7. No, no, all the site. Go back to the site. Pull up a B-7. Let's let Nick go down memory lane. Yeah, I mean, I think the RS4 was the better car, but my S4 I just loved.

There you go. A4S line. No, no, that's fine. That's the one. That's the one. The A4, this is basically what he's talking about. A4S line. Yeah, look at that.

It was a great interior. I've considered, so I've had the A4, S4, and RS4. I haven't done a cab yet, a convertible. Yeah. And I haven't done an Avant yet. So there may be, I'm just for shot, I'm putting it out there that if a fourth one comes around that is too good to say no to. I wouldn't say no to it. Dude's a B7 man.

A B7 R's 4. I'm legitimately like waiting until they're 25 years old to import one. A wagon. Yeah. I've thought about trying to convert one, but it's a lot of work. What else we got here that you would have done the B7 front?

Anything in Sprint Blue. You had a B7 S4, not a B6? They were all B7s. I've always preferred the B6. Did you not? No. Uh-uh. You didn't like those wheels?

No. It was fine, but the B7 was everything but better. It's like the, RRC to the P38. It's everything just a little bit better. I'm going to tell you right now, nobody thinks that. I think it. Nobody... All of my P38 friends think it. The only people who

think the P-38 was an improvement over the RRC are on the P-38 Facebook group. We'll go ask the RIC guys. Talking about how undervalued. I had an RRC. Oh, I'm getting rust repair right now because this car was made poorly. I wish I had a P-38. That's what they're all saying. No one with a Ranger River Classic wishes they had a P-38. They have

enough problems and their car is better looking and simpler. They have enough problems because it was V1, a V2.0 of God's masterpiece. V2 was much worse. Does it ever, do you ever like the fact that Land Rover couldn't? You know how BMWs are all, E28, E39, E46? Land Rover went through so many BS owners at naming conventions that it was classic P38, L322.

Makes no sense. Yeah, none at all. Actually, no sense. There was no. There was no consistent. It's a disaster. So, yeah, that's my final answer. I'm locking in the B7.

The B7. Even the front wheel drive CVT. I enjoyed that car. You had a front wheel drive CVT, right? With that six LEDs and a ton of great mods. Sorry, SLR, move over Mercy, bye-bye R-8. It's the... How can you say that?

Look at that RS4. The wide fenders. I agree. Those are perfect wheels. They pretty much invented Honeycomb mesh. Like, that was a new thing in that era. Yeah? I mean, just, they killed it.

But how can you say that? This is the E-39M-5 of Audi's. No, totally. Yeah, definitely. But how can you say this? You had a stick, He doesn't have enough time from his stick mercy. You know, I'll tell you this.

My first car was the 1996 Volvo 850 turbo. Pull up an 850 turbo. Yeah, the boxy one. Yeah. Five cylinder, wasn't it? Turbo five. Hell yeah. Yeah.

Turbo five, and it looked a lot like that. That's an R, but it does not have R wheels. It has turbo wheels. That was how my car looked. It was white. And I... Is that the car you like best? Like you, I, for years after getting rid of it, I ideal...

Oh, I missmate 50 turbo. I missed mate future. Years later, I drove one again. And needless to say, haven't missed it since. The clothes of the boy do not fit the man. And he would discover that if he got it back into a B7. Yeah, I wouldn't. Is it?

I owned a B7 like three years ago. Yeah, but it was an R's four. If you got back into the B7 front track that you just espoused, I have a suspicion. It wouldn't last. Perhaps. But I feel like it's a cheat to just say my fastest car or my most expensive car. I'm going with the car that I had the deepest emotional bond with, like Kenan and Z-39.

I was Mr. B-7. I lived and breathed that. It was a seminal point of my childhood and adulthood. Yeah. So it's one of it's got history to you personally. Personally, my favorite car I've ever owned really hard, you know, like them all equally, et cetera, et cetera, like instead or whatever. I've had 38 cars. Jeez.

You probably had 38 cars. If I count, I cast. I bet I'm at like 20. I'm in the hundreds. But you're moving a lot faster than me. It's picking up. In five years, you're definitely going to be more than me. Yeah.

You're having like six cars a year. It's probably a violation of state. It's getting close to Dealey line. I'm going to Phoenix next week and I've already updated my Facebook marketplace to target hoopedies in that area. So yes, it's a part of Ford Lightning. If you got a Ford Lightning, you're trying to offload this Christmas in Scottsdale in Mesa. Yes. Put it on, put it on Facebook right now.

This is your man. There's a lot of good user. You got a California guy coming in. But I think my favorite is probably the Kuntash, which I currently own and just love dearly, dearly, dearly. Drive that car and I'm so excited every time I'm in it. That's what I was predicting you were going to say. It's not the most usable.

If I only look at cars that I have gotten rid of, that 2001 E55, pull up one of those, I just want to look at it. Wow. The 2001 E55 is my... That's like your B7. Yeah. It's not that great by today's standards. Well, the thing that made it so great was that it was that it was that it was

was super reliable. It was pretty fast, but it was also roomy and reliable and comfortable. And at the time, when I owned it, I was like 25. I didn't need any of that stuff. But in the years since then, I've realized, like, actually, this would be great. And you know how you have that focus as like a third car that you just sort of use when guests, whatever? I want to get one of these for that. Yeah, a little. Just reliable, yeah, have, you don't have to treat incredibly nicely. That's, that's the, this is doable. You know, it's a very achievable. Well, I want a wagon, Which is a little bit harder. That's a little bit harder.

A little bit more. Then you'll be precious about loaning it out, though, because that's legitimately cool. It's a 99. And I only do facelift cars. Well, we haven't had one yet. No, no one has. They're uncommon, but I'm starting the procedure of looking for one. Wow.

But I do like my... You got me back into cars. Good. You got me deep back on cars. I don't know if by the time... You got me off cars. Foisting this arnage onto me, the multiple. You guys are just feeding me bad idea.

By the time this pot airs, I'm not sure if this will be, if I'll have announced this yet, but I really want an E30M3 Sport Evo, and I really want a 210E55 wagon, and I am ready, I think, to buy either one. Can't wait to hear about this for months after you've already bought one. You started this. Cool.

I was off cars. For three years, I didn't buy a car. And then you showed up, and you were like, I'm having all this fun. And then you did dumb stuff and got out of it okay financially. And I'm like, well, I can do dumb stuff and get out of it. Look at all these entries. You see these?

Look at that. Take this car. This is what I want. I want this car, but five more horsepower for 150,000 more dollars. Completely rational. Sounds great. Makes good sense. So anyway, I'm interested.

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How is sentimental about previous. Are you? As someone in the Kennan camp of cart maintenance, I wonder how much emotional weight you carry in cars. Kenan, how sentimental about previous cars are you? Extremely. I'm a very emotional person, so there are some cars for which my hatred knows no bounds that I've owned. And we all know without it. But there's a sentimentality to hate.

Yeah, there is, I feel strongly and very emotionally about all of my cars. But yes, sentimentality drives a lot of the reason that I, the cars that I want, the cars that I keep, There's a lot, I'm very emotional about my things, watches too, you know, my things. I like my things. And by the way, we're in the middle of watch season, folks. Oh. Early days still. This is watch season.

Yes, I have, yes. I, being from Ohio, in the wintertime, you put away the cars and you can't use them. So what do I do in that time? We'd fill that time pieces. That's right. You know what? You see this, this thing? That is really cool.

It's an SLR edition watch. So I'm not on cars. I'm on car watches. Yeah. See? Nick gets it. So I took it in to get the battery replaced, and the guy's like, sir, there's no battery in this.

It's an automatic. And so he's like, you just need to like shake your wrist more, and I left feeling like an idiot. Well, it's like put up to the gas pump, but I got some hard work to do during watch season here. Okay, when you say that you're sentimental about cars, what do you mean? Like, you look at your old cars, you look up their vins,

you think about them, you have glossies on your wall above your bed? I do think about them. I have momentum from them. So, like, I have like, from my, My first car, my 525, I still have the window sticker. And I still look back at pictures of that car. I really loved that car. It was really, really loved it.

There's 190 horsepower. It was, but it was my first, it was a great first car. And it was a manual, and it was blue, and I just really love that car. But, yeah, I looked back fondly on a lot of the great memories I've made with all of them. That's the most important aspect of owning any of these cars to me. It's just like the E-39, it's like, the reason I feel so sentimental about that is I closed the door, and I'm right back to where I was when I was dreaming about owning that car as a kid, and now I have one. And so, and it just hasn't faded for me.

And the sentimentality is what drives that. And it's a great crime. To be a little armchair, psychology stare that you get too attached? You know, like maybe it'd cause you to overinvest in maintenance or make sort of illogical decisions. Well, yes, love is not rational. Oh, that's beautiful. I would argue that it's important to love things that can love you back, like how I love Nick. Yes, but the M5 provides me with so much joy every time I use it that.

It does love you back. In a way, it provides me what I'm looking for from an automobile, so yeah, it gives me what I want. Then, yes, it is very expensive in things, but I just want it to always function and want it to be around for as long as I can drive the car. So, no surprise, the person who spends so much money on the car is, sentimentally, emotionally invest in the car. Isn't that called commitment bias? I'm not sure. It's more of a sunk cost fallacy, actually. No, it's so fallacy.

Well, I mean, you sunk a lot of money into it, so therefore you feel like, oh, I got to, like, love the law. But that's not... No, but he actually loves. I'm in so deep, I might as well keep going. That would be sunk foul. You know, you can tell sometimes when you're with people and there's some stuff. No, this is true love.

Yeah. He truly loves... It's not like one of the situations where you know the couple and you want to say something to the guy, like you should get out of this or to the woman, like, I don't think so. To this, this is a merger of equals.

That's my favorite part of the holidays is catching, like, couples that are normally very harmonious just, like, quietly bickering. You know, it's like, you talk, get the dogs in the garage, you know, And you're like, oh my gosh, they're going to murder each other when we leave. But like we're just getting like the quick, the little brown M&M like the first canary in the coal mine before they just, you know, treat kind of like an E39M5 last summer. This is hitting home. Nick's family in Ohio takes us back to that Panera bread.

Not even my family, but just. Nick, do you get sentimentally attached to your cars? Do you think about the money shift TTRS? No. I think the velocity of which I've been turning over cars, I think I'm probably of anything over or too unsentimental towards the cars. But I have fond memories of them, and then I have recreated the P38 experience.

I have thought about getting another Selina XB8. So I'd say, like, it's a balancing act. But do you specifically the ones that you have, do you ever mourn their loss? Do you think about them? Do you have keepsakes? Funny enough, the mercy. So there's been a few cars like that B7S4.

I tried to sell it once and then I backed out I'm like I can't sell it I just love this car too much I regretted doing that and then like a year later I sold it for way less money so now I've kind of like realized

once I get the itch to sell a car it's time and waiting is only worse for me so I've sort of learned to just listen to that like the mercy I still loved that car but I was also like it's time and I know it's time

and it's time for something new and if I hold off now I'll wait six or 12 months I'll probably get you know it just like all the signs are pointing it to it's time to like So when you let go, you let go.

Yeah, now I've like totally like go. I'm still in the owners groups and like poking around a little bit, but I don't have emotional attached. I don't have a year to get back into a mercy right now. Okay. The question was, how's sentimental about previous cars are you? My answer is literally zero. Yep, I knew that about you.

Which is literally zero. You had trouble letting go of your Defender 90. I feel you were sentimentally attached. No, he didn't. Nope. He was, all of us, many other people in his life were attached to that car. But not him. We spent months trying to talk you into, like,

helping you talk off the ledge between that and the G-Cab, I feel like. I definitely am attached to the G-Cab, which I currently own. I have no attachment to the yellow car. I sold it to a guy in up upstate New York. Don't you famously look up the Carfax of all your vehicles? I carfax them once a year. It's a little stalkers, you know? That's like, oh, yeah, look up my high school girlfriend on Facebook once a month,

but I'm not, I'm over it. It depends on the purpose. I mean, like, I look up some people from high school just to make sure that I'm living better than them. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Nick understands. Isn't the biggest house in his neighborhood at a Lambo?

But, right. He's got his profile picture, Nick, in a Lambo, and a race suit. Actually, I'm rocking the QP5 on Facebook. Thank you. I'm humble. But I do car fax them. I'm always curious to see where they went, but I never, like, yearn. There is not a ounce of me that wants any of those cars back.

I never want to hear from the people who have them. I do not care if they get an accident and totaled and destroyed, which some of them have. I don't care if they kill people in Florida, as one of them did. None of it matters to me. But there are experiences you would like to repeat, the W-2-10 being a good example.

But to me, that was a thing. It was a thing of metal and glass and bolts. Like, I can get another thing like that. And honestly, that car now has 150,000 miles. I don't want that thing back. I want a different thing that probably provides me with a sort of similar... Do you know what I mean?

Certainly the experiences in some of the cars, I enjoy the memories, this one being the best example of that. Well, like, I'm not trying to buy one on these back. And if I was, I would. You know, like, anybody is, oh, I miss this car. Well, why don't you get one? I don't miss it that much.

It's not like any of these cars I can't buy back. I know some people who are in that situation where they sold the car and then the values took off and they can't afford. Like, I can get a W-2-10. It's a $14,000. Right. But, like, if I really missed it, I would, but I don't. You know, the cars I yearn to get back are ones that I never own,

but I had, like, a exposure to it. So, examples. My dad's friend had a 1967 GT 500 KR Mustang That he let me drive in high school And do a burnout And so I always Whenever I see a green with white stripe

Gt 500 KR I look at the carfax And figure out, okay, was this in Columbus And if so, maybe it's the one And I should buy it My grandpa had an E-type Jack you are I'm gonna stop you right there Kenan do you want to ask him about it?

Well, Columbus? How do you look at the Carfax If you don't? Well, not a carfax But you can look at the ownership history and stuff like that You get a Marty report You can kind of figure it out.

Marty. Not Carfax, but usually it's like some level of owner documentation still in there. You post on the forum every couple years. When someone comes up for sale, you like to see, was this the one? The write-up on the listing site. Would you buy such a car? Those in particular are very expensive, but my grandpa's E-type, same thing. If that came around and it could be buyable for the right price, I'd be like, oh, sentimentally. You know, anytime anyone does that, I always wonder, like, after the first couple years, are you just like, well?

I don't even think it's, I was my first couple weeks. Because you got Grandpa Z type, and it's like, okay, we got Grandpa Z type, but at some point you have a vehicle in your garage that you don't use much. And Grandpa sat in it 45 years ago, but like, well, I mean, I'm not sentimental about cars or property or anything like that. I don't get into that kind of stuff that much. But I guess there are some people who would who would not feel that way. But to me, it's like, when you're done with it, you move it on, and you don't think about

it again, and you hope never to hear from the guy who bought it. Now, the guy who bought this, which is the car that I certainly had the most personal attachment to, he does send me message every so often. I like to hear what's going on with it. But I'm not, I don't look at the pictures and think, oh. My Ferrari, the guy who bought my Ferrari sends me a note every now and again just tell me that the car has been perfectly reliable for me. He hasn't had an issue and I'm like, every time. But nonetheless. My iranage guy message me.

It was the same guy, right? Isn't this? No different guy. The guy bid on mine, but did not win it. And he said the battery was dead because the alarm went off the entire way from San Diego to Tennessee. But he's like, I figured out how to turn the alarm off, and it's great. This thing is so fast and fun. Oh, my God.

Car shipper's going to ship, you know? Yep. All they said is they get it from point A to point B. They didn't say they'd turn off the alarm. Okay, next question. The dude drove it with the alarm going to hold time. I guess. I mean, presumably the battery died somewhere in Texas.

Yeah, it killed the battery. Hey, man, when we're hauling across the country, can't hear it. The reason was you had a, you had a, there's like an alarm. alarm sensor in it or something? Yeah, I think like a toe sensor, so it was out of tilt, and that was enough. But yeah. Okay, next question, and this one is from Sebuy, and I want you both to weigh on this, even though it's for me, I want to hear your takes before I provide my monstrously outsized,

ridiculous outburst take. From Sebuy. Question for Deli, have you heard of the Rare Shades Festival? No. It's a festival dedicated to Porsche cars in different colors from the paint-to-sample program. You've never heard of this? No. My question is, how much would they have to pay you to attend

or will he attend next year's event now that he's officially a Porsche guy? Let me do the math. Will I attend? Can you carry the one. Under absolutely no circumstances ever! But the question is, how much do they have to pay me? I mean, I probably do it for 100 grand post.

100 grand post. You wouldn't do it for 50 grand post? Where is it? Is it in L.A., you think? If it's in L.A. for 50 grand posts and I can go up and go back the same day, I would talk about it. What's it called?

Rare Shades Festival. If it's in the Bay, 100 is my number. Seriously. Nick, tell me your thoughts on the Rare Shades Festival. Would I go or would you be kidding? No, what do you think about people

meeting up to show off the colors of their Porsches? I mean, it is great in that it gets all of those people off the road and away from me at one time. That cars and coffee in that area and that vicinity that week will be amazing because, like, all of those people will just be elsewhere. Yeah, they're elsewhere. They don't have to come to. Our cars are.

It's out of Ritz Carlton, too. This is a first in Canada. As you would say, it's like they're making fun of their own customers, you know? Oh, man. What I've discovered is that there is a large contingent of Porsche enthusiasts who care more about

their spec than the driving experience of their car. And I think it's probably the single most pathetic thing that goes on in the automotive industry today. I do think it's actually, for those people, though, that'll be really fun. I do think buying the car in the right color is incredibly important.

So I can agree with a lot of it. I think the problem is that they just take it a little too far. But they buy the car and only want to talk about the color. Like we have that mutual friend on Instagram who did like an Oscar thank you, like an Oscar's Academy Award's thank you message to his dealer. I want to thank Porsche of whatever for the opportunity to buy this paint to sample car. It was like, this is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen in my time. life. And the fact that they then don't drive the cars, like, the driving experience is the thing.

Yep. The cool color is cool. And I'm into the people who buy it for the driving experience and then also get some weird color and that's cool. I'm into that. But the people who attend these things, zero mile trailer to the thing, factory recommission, because they wanted this. F that. Yeah. That is sad. Yeah, I agree. I remember earlier this year seeing a GT3R. A brand new one. You know, Car was designed to be driven hard on the track, like really take the abuse. And it was a PTSD color of some kind. And this guy just got out of it

and immediately started drying it off because it had been slightly sprinkled on with rain. You're missing the point. You know, Matt, I went to Carson Coffee with a certain mutual friend who was a little worried about some do on their spoiler this week. Yes, on the, yeah, Gary, his F-355 was a little worried.

I just don't get into any sort of behavior. To me, a car is about the drive. Yeah. And the thing about the rare shades thing is it is literally the opposite of that. It's like celebrating, you're celebrating like the way it's optioned in the spec. Nice spec, nice spec, I'm real. Oh, my God, that spec is so nice. And I just think that is so far from the intent.

And those people want to do that, that's fine. But I just would prefer they not come to my events or talk to me. Dude, the biggest problem since getting the arena since the turbo, all of them come up to me now. Oh, man, I had a this, I got a this, I got it. And it's in flush and blue and orange. I don't know what that is and I don't care. Like, I truly don't care.

I got one with no sunroof. It was only no sunroof for six months and 87. Literally, I'm not one of you. I joke about not being a portion of guy, but, like, I can't handle those. Like, mental, I can't handle those conversations. Like, don't come at me with that. You would appreciate it.

So I broke my other MacBook, and I took it in for a repair. And the guy recognized me as Doug's friend. No way. But he wasn't authorized to help me, so he just chatted with me for like 20 minutes while I was waiting for my actual appointment. But it was like, oh boy, I hope he's not a PTSD kind of guy. But he was actually a cool enthusiast, but sometimes you get trapped in those conversations. You're like, I literally can't leave. But again, I understand why, because the cars are so ubiquitous because they're master's cars, the Porsche are just pumped out.

And so if you want to distinguish your 87 Carrera, like different colors, a big deal. So I get that, but I agree. Plus those cars don't drive very well. The story that's untold about that exact thing is that, like, ultimately these cars are not that special. They're special almost entirely because of the way they drive. Yeah. And, but if you're not capable of exploiting that, then you go down the, oh, out, has a cool spec kind of thing. Bonus question related to this.

What festival, if it was incredibly tailored to a very specific niche, would you go? I would do the... That's a good question. The rare colors festival or whatever for B7R's force. There are four Suzuki gray ones on the planet. One has been totaled. If all four showed up, I would be there. I would pay $100,000 to attend.

Suzuki Gray? It wasn't the most common color. It's like a slightly off white. It's white with like a touch of gray. But it's perfect. You're sitting here complaining about it. Perfect. I hope those portion of people are off the road

so I don't have to deal with them. He's over here talking about Suzuki Gray. One of the four has been total. It's a B7. It's God's chariot. It's different. No, it isn't. What weird event would you attend?

You would go to like a G-Cab? I would never go to any event with fellow G-Cab owners. I got to think about what I was. It would be legit. You have Travis Scott, Kylie Jenner. I would never want to be around. I would go to a non-red Ferrari event where all the Ferraris were every color except for red. There is no like color event that I would.

I'm saying if you had to pick one of these, you're saying. You would go to like a press color event. I would go to press color. That would be good. Press colors of Norris. of normal cars from the 1980s, 90s through 2008. That's all I want. Press colors of normal cars.

I want to see like the Dodge Intrepid in that weird light blue that they had. I want to see the Cadillac CTS in the copper. Like that's, yes. Coin slot maxima in the copper. 46M3 and Phoenix Yellow. It's not normal enough. The other color event we could do that I would go to

and you would too would be the Sultan of Brunei Festival or yellow on yellow car or red on yellow car as well as any car that was rescued from him may attend. Or golf-themed interior car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you have like a golf interior, that counts. What about Harlequins? That's a festival I'd go to.

Yeah, Volkswagon Harlequin golfs. It'd be interesting. It'd be an interesting crowd. We're getting close to Radwood at that point. Kind of all of us, honestly, Taylor's right into Radwood. Yep. This episode of This Car Pod is brought to you by Autocast. And as a parent, like me,

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Dear Doug, not car-related, what's your connection in Antarctica? I know you spend summers there, et cetera. When you make the drive there, which state has the best scenery and which state has the worst? Well, sorry, Nebraska. I think that's probably, depending on which route you take,

Nebraska, I've driven across the country many times as well. I think that, I mean, Nebraska, it just goes on and on. From Ohio, you go through Nebraska. I've never, I've never, well, I've driven. driven through Nebraska, but I have not on that drive driven through Nebraska. Not the best. I think, I mean... Have you ever driven...

No, your longest drive was to Monterey. Probably here. God, Sedona. Can you imagine? The guy doesn't like to drive. You know what he should do? I don't like a rare shades festival. I don't like monotonous road trips.

Monotonous. You see the country. You get a respect for how big this beautiful nation is. I think once you're west of Denver and you start to get into the mountains, then it becomes pretty special. I-70 through Colorado is the most beautiful section of interstate in the country. There's no... question about that. Yeah, and it's just, when I did it the first time, I mean, I had driven

and skied there, so I knew what it was like by my friend Ryan hadn't seen it, and I watched someone experience that for the first time it is. That's specifically that stretch of interstate, because interstates are normally so wide and slow and boring with small curves, and that one is like tunnels. And I was a kid growing up in Denver, when you're coming down the freeway, at the freeway I 70, there's runaway truck ramps everywhere. Yes, yes. And I just, as a kid, I thought all freeways must have runaway. Like, that's normal. That was normal. That was the only freeway we ever drove on. It must have runaway truck ramps. And, And I discovered later that that's not actually normal.

In Nebraska, you could just kind of just go off the whole state. Well, you don't lose your brakes because you're not riding your brakes. But it literally never occurred to me as a child that that was something that wasn't just commonly done in interstate highways. It's really beautiful. However, on that drive across the country in Antioch and I take to go through the south, and I'm going to throw you a curveball here. Most beautiful state, Arkansas, Tennessee. Really?

Arkansas, there are times. I'm on that drive. My family is not with me, right? And I'm like two days on the road away from my family. And I get off to get gas in Arkansas, you know. And there's trees everywhere. There's like a little creek. And there's like a swamp kind of and like this beech birds.

And I think to myself, you know, I could just keep going. I could just get off onto this county road and buy myself a nice property in Arkansas. Raised chickens. Well, okay. It is so beautiful. The south is the street. beautiful and specifically the like densely green south. Yeah, I've developed a real affinity for the South.

Even when we went to M-So, we went to Rhode Atlanta, and just like the roads out there, sort of in Beaufort and stuff and how beautiful the lakes. A lot of trees. East Tennessee. We have friends in Chattanooga and I love Chattanooga. I'm on Chattanooga Zillow all the time and I'm always dreaming. Always dreaming. Meanwhile, Nick, Nick's favorite spot is Mesa, Arizona.

Wait, so, okay. So you're saying most beautiful state either ten Tennessee or Arkansas, at least favorite states. I think East Tennessee on the interstate that I drive through, because western part of Colorado is incredibly beautiful. But East Tennessee on the interstate, you drive through some beautiful mountains and cross some incredible winding rivers and hillside.

Yeah, the worst state to drive through on that drive, I mean, I guess it's Oklahoma. I'm a guy from the middle of the country. I love the middle of the country. I love a lot of those places. I don't like hate any of those places. North Texas, I will take that back. I-40 through North Texas is the worst part of the world.

Just nothing. Sorry to say. I think that's Amarillo. And if we've just lost our Amarillo viewers, I'm sorry, but also, you know. You know. And Nixie, you've never done this drive. I've never done a cross-country drive. I don't really have an ambition.

Once I was cruising through Galveston, and I saw a Lambo. Cruising through Galveston. Pretty sure it was a Lambo here. Pretty sure. That's the all-time, the all-time greatest car YouTube video. It is. Way better than any of mine. Nice.

Okay, next question, and this is the great question that we've gotten this week. Hey, Doug and Friends from This is Patrick O6. Again, you're the friends. Just a quick question, hey, you guys ever heard of the Audi A1 Club Sport Quatro? Pull it up. Of course. This car, I don't want to talk about this car, actually, because I feel like I'm worried the values are going to go up and when it's finally legal. They're so cool.

I'm not going to be able to grab one. I'm telling you right now, there is no car that I want to import more than this car. None. That is so cool. Nick, tell us your thoughts as an Audi man. I mean, what's not to like? It's such a good size, tons of power. What this was was a little, so A1 was like a super mini,

like the smallest hatchback that they made. But while most of these were front-wheel drive, tiny, you know, city cars to get people into the Audi brand early. This one they made, for some reason, a high-performance version, the A1 Quattro, which had 260 horsepower and all-wheel drive. In this car, it's incredible. And it's so cool. They had white wheels.

It's funny, although if the, were done aftermarket, you would just be like, this is the worst thing I've ever, and it kind of looks like the Seema build, just throwing that out there, like, those OZ wheels or rotiform wheels, that wing, like, so right, he's so right. Give me an A1 and a couple cold ones,

I can build you one that looks identical. They only made three and 33, yeah, but you can't put all the drive in it. That was a big thing. That was a big thing. It probably has all this in stock, you know. They'll ship it out of Ohio. That's right. I think this is one of the, they didn't do a stick,

but I think it was a dual clutch, and I think it is just one of the, I love cars that, This size and I love like toss around cars like this. I'm not a front wheel drive guy, not a lot of car people are. And so having an all-wheel drive system in this car, it must be so much fun. It would be. I want one so, so, so bad.

Yep, I support that. And if I had to kill Kennan to get one, I would... I wouldn't be that upset about it myself. I'd think about it. That's my thought on it. Now these cars were like 2011, so we're a long way away, 10 years still. Oh, that could be you. That could be me.

Skidding across to... Now, I did get one imported Audi that... that was disappointing. Yeah, yeah, slightly. Two, actually. The ours... By the way, go back for the... The ours two counts as well, doesn't it?

That was the one I was talking about. What about the A2? Oh, yeah. You've got two. I've only been disappointed by imported outies. The interior was so cool. Look at this. Nick, we could be sitting in this right now.

Yep. Again, Seema build or OE... It is kind of seen a adjacent. Especially with the Speed Hunter's... And you know what? At every place, everywhere you took it, people would think it was... Oh, yeah, for sure.

Some dumb... They only made 33 of them for the whole world, and I think it is just one of the coolest cars on the planet. I really, truly do. I agree with that. Okay, next question from Tennessee Coolcat into our section of Kenan questions from Tennessee Coolcat. Is no one going to talk about the hypocrisy of Kenan buying a tip? Everyone seems to be avoiding the conversation intentionally. Kenan, what is your justification just like everyone else has for their own reason that they bought a tip?

And by the way, there's nothing wrong with it. Well, you know, I've owned all manual cars except for my twin turbo charge V12 Mercedes. So, you know, you're right, you got me there. So your point is, it's okay to buy a tip if you buy, if you get one that has a thousand pound feet of torque. Yeah. If you're getting a Rentech tuned S.L. 65 or a Dodge 3,500 power wagon,

then you can buy a tip. Yes, I've always wanted an SL-65, and I felt for the longest time that one of its shortcomings was its transmission. I don't actually feel that way that much anymore about it. That car is so point and shoot and you kind of want it to hold on the gears. The auto suits the nature of a lot of AMG cars. Absolutely. I've tried to make this point to some of us and he doesn't accept it. Well, I don't know. He seems to be more accepting of it now.

But I think that, yes, I always wanted that car and while it doesn't have a manual, I have to say, I've really enjoyed, I enjoy it anyway. I do think that I agree that generally having, I always want a manual, since I'll likely have my M5 for a long time. I still get that joy, and I think that most fun cars should be manual, but nonetheless, I don't have it. You wanted the experience. Yeah. Your justification is you wanted the experience of this crazy car. A lot of people's justification is,

I get tired. No, actually, I don't mind. That ain't me. I'm not tired. I don't mind having tip cars. I have a bunch. However, I want to point something out. You got half tips. You got all tips.

You don't have a manual car at all right now. He's got the Fiat. It doesn't count. Yeah, it doesn't. Not only is it broken, but he's desperately trying to get out of it. I, however, have a majority of it. of manuals. Yes, I'm a 50-50 split at the moment.

My next car will be a manual for sure. I'm 4-7th, which works out to 57% manuals. Nick, do you have any... It just edges me. Do you have anything to say about that? No, and the next few cars I'm in the market for all automatics. Yeah, that's true. Nick's moved on, he's getting older, he's getting grayer.

That B-7 is getting further in his rear view mirrors. Yeah. Pretty soon it'll be like a B-7-R-S-4, but I wish they had made an auto. If only they... That Tiptronic was just so satisfying to put into gear and then push over You know, it's hard to Carfax your old cars when you're driving a stick. You know, you need the hand-free. Type in those long-kns.

You're not driving a stick. Exactly. I'm being productive. I'm doing deals at the stop playing. Big business. That's interesting. I, yeah, you guys are now auto people. Yeah, I wouldn't say that.

The viewer is very astute on our deep state conspiracy of burying that new story. I didn't bear it at all. The truth is out, the shocking truth revealed. No, a car that was made only as an automatic. Everybody on this pot has always been like, only manuals, only manuals. Then they all end up with automatics. Felipe, Mr. Only Manuals himself has an automatic. He's got an automatic.

I'm the only one for my fun cars who's never deviated. I've never had a fun car with only two pedals, ever in my entire line. Well, time to man up and get a Varon. And guess what trends that's going to have, a tip? Next Kenan question. This question is for Kennan. this is a good one. And then we have a Nick question.

Kennan. This one is for Kenan. Kenan, Kenan, we all know how much you love your M5, but is it your M5 that you love, or is it the E39M5 in general? If a lower mileage M5 in your dream spec with extensive service history became available, would you sell the M5 you have now in order to get it? That's from O.P. Starfish. Really good question.

Yeah. I have run into this situation before, and honestly, it is my M5. I love specifically. Wow. Dude doesn't even love the ETHR-9 and 5. I do love them all. It's a rare shade of silver, silver, and another silver. Yes, that is true.

But no, I think it has become, for a time, the answer that was yes, because I didn't want a silver one specifically. I didn't want an O2. I didn't want the black interior. I did, that's not what I wanted. And that's exactly what I got. And so for a while, the answer would have been yes. But as I've grown to like, as I've grown with this car, I don't see having a lot on

You wouldn't swap out. Unless it gets totaled, I don't think I would. Let's say sunburst yellow becomes available, all right? The famous... Dakar Yellow, we'll say. Whatever it is. The famous yellow car comes available. I don't really want the banana.

There are colors like... What do you like? Interlagos? There is one... So there are two that come to mine. There's one estero blue E39M5 in the United States. It was painted by BMW individuals in 03. It was in Georgia last.

I remember finding the M5 board looks about to be like... It looks like... We'll have a post a picture. It looks so good. There is, and there's one that's in Eastern Europe. It's the only one that was made in Topaz blue, which was my 525 color. And I loved that blue. It's a really nice blue.

It's the blue of the Z8s. It's that, that blue. And so if one of those came up, I think that would be, that would really push me. But there's only one of each. So, like, they made more astro ones, but usually their UK cars in right-hand drive. It's like my Suzuki-Gray are as far. Like, yes. We're keeping tabs on them, but they'll just never be an option.

Your elephant actually is white, mine is, you know. Next question from Coolman Food, this question about me, but to you guys. Dear Doug, you talk all about how exciting it is to have certain cars in your friend group, like, for example, an SLR. I'm curious, was anyone in your friend group excited for the 993 turbo, or her has it ended up being a car just for you? No one cares about the 993 turbo. In our friend group, in public, no one cares. I like the car. But our friend Sam was into it.

The Porsche guys in our group, Edison and Sam, are pretty happy. Nick, like, actively does not like the car. He thinks it's a radically stupid money. No, I'm into it. I would never follow your footsteps here. The same week I got it, he spent the same money for an SLR. And I got an old 9-11 turbo where the... Precisely.

Precisely. Where the fan belt sensor warning light is permanently on. Listen, the car, that car is a great example of a car that is only for the person sitting in the driver's seat. And I have all other cars that impress people when I drive them around, but that is absolutely not it. But I am impressed by driving it, and I think, you know, there's benefits to all of that, you know. Your SLR, people are like, whoa. Meanwhile, you get in your focus, and then you're like, whoa. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? For sure. Yeah, you feel that. I see the focus STs out there. Uh-huh. You're in. Well, I'm happy for you. Oh.

And I do love the 993. I think it's one of the all-time great 9-11s. I will say. My 11 generation. As undesirable as the car has been among members of the public and our friend group, who barely even batted an eyelash on it when I pull up in it, you know. We'd made it like a tradition that we all, like, show up when someone's car is getting delivered to, like, see it. All of us would, like, take off a work and, like, go to the trailer and, you know, check out the car.

93 turbo came and people like, well, okay. So, lunch. I will agree. The reason I'm happy about it is because it signifies you being back on cars openly and not buying these BSE cars that were like $6,000, what's the snail car, the S-cargo. The thing I was going to say, though, is quickly in my world, it has become a huge hit. And I haven't driven my other cars in a while. She drives the Kuntas, well, I'm in Kuntas recently.

Not much. Not a Porsche guy. The 4GT I am never using, which is so sad, because I did take it out the other day, and I love it so much. But the 4th. The 993's, you know, practical. Because you can take your kids in it, is that the main reason. That's a big part of it. Also, the holiday season is a time for practicality.

I often am running errands. I had to go pick up ice the other day. The Ford GT has literally no storage. That's true. Literally not. After we finished rapping, I'm returning a. toilet bowl cover to the UPS store right above. So I'm with you.

You gotta be ready. The P-38 delivers. Okay, next question. I was gonna lock the car, but the locks doesn't really work, and you're like, ah, it's a toilet, you know. The whole car is a toilet. If you need a new toilet seat cover, go ahead. He's got a toilet and a toilet.

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I think about this all the time. Because I watch these guys, and I know some of their financial situations, either from them personally or from being told about it, and I know what's going on behind the scenes. And I know that they're one, everybody's always,

some of these YouTubers, everybody's always like, you're complaining about this, but you're a rich YouTuber. I want to chime in and be like, you have no idea how close that dude is to personal bankruptcy. But unfortunately, I don't do that.

I own all my cars, but I wish I could be irresponsible. In which case, they said, would you have an F40? Yeah, I'd probably have an F50, honestly. What would you get? I don't know. I mean, I would probably stretch back into that $100,000-ish,

like, I mean, for me, probably a $575 or something I thought I would stretch back into. Like, it's just not the right time to spend $100,000 in a car again, like I did with $2,500. What about a $5-9? I was so funny you mentioned that. This past weekend there was a manual swamped 599 at Cars and Coffee. That car gets more appealing by the day to me, even over the 550 and 575.

That engine just hits you in the face, you know? It does, which actually is one of the reasons why the manual, the drawback of a manual with that car is it's so fast that if you're doing any sort of real speed driving, the manual's like too much almost. But you still want a manual. Yeah, because most of the time you're not driving like that. Yeah. So yeah, I think, yeah, $5.99 and then doing the stick conversion, and if I were brave, like Nick, because, you know, you look at a $5.99, it's $10,000. If you look at $5.99, it's a good point. That's probably the one.

That's probably the one for me. What about you? I feel like I'm inching dangerously close to what he's describing in the first place. Every YouTube video I produce probably nets me a massive four-figure loss in terms of all the maintenance I did to make like $30 an ad cents back. So I'm kind of what he's describing. Right. If I were willing to get more leveraged, I would have a second fun car. And I really, you and I agree on this so much, but an XJ220 or an S7,

something punishingly expensive to own that you literally never see again. It'll be the only one that you see driving anywhere you go. Yeah. Something like that that's just beyond ridiculous. XJ220 would be so cool. I also, if I were to be a little bit more practical, Diablo 6-0. Yeah. But a Diablo.

Our friend is proving is a very difficult car to own, but I want one so badly. Yeah. Me too. That would be cool. I would have a lot of stuff. Yeah. Because I could leverage a lot and really go crazy. I would definitely get an F40 F50.

The problem as you've discovered is once you get past like 10 cars, it becomes a burden. That's one of the reasons I'd go after like the craziest of crazy. I would have a lot of crazy stuff, but it'd be probably about the same number of cars. and my financial situation would be as sketchy as some of the people who are out there today, possibly watching and thinking, am I talking about, is he talking about me? Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, not Hoovie.

Compared to some of these guys that we've now heard some stories about. Yeah. Hoovey is Dave Ramsey. You can see how it happens so because you normalize it very quickly. Yeah. It's just like a... Well, and you're thinking only about monthly expenses. Like, can I cover this?

Can I cover the payment this month? If I make it as much an ad sense, I can do that. And you're not thinking about like any sort of long-term saving or how you can continue to exist or whatever. And so like your only thought is, can I cover that payment this month. If I make this video, I can. Okay, well, then I can get another one or do even more crazy videos than the next thing you know, you're like, you're earning 150 grand a month,

but your spend is 146 grand a month, you know? Yeah, and you've convinced everyone, I think, convinces themselves they're Mr. Beast, where they're not spending recklessly. They're reinvesting into the business, you know, But like it's not. It's different. From Kinetic SF, this is on the topic of what we just discussed. Doug, when are you going to stop kidding yourself and give into the siren song of the 550 or 575?

Given your comment in the video about being a daily option like your 4GT, it seems like you do a straight equal dollar swap for a manual 550 or 575 or an auto and save money. So swapping the 4GT into one of those. There is literally nothing in the world that would convince me to swap my 4GT into 550 or 550. There is literally nothing on this planet. No possible thing that could do that. Anyway, next question. Because the Ferrari is just more fragile. The Ford is a very simple car.

Realistically, it's very easy to take care of parts or inexpensive, that not one of those things can be said about any Ferrari. The 575 is daily bowl from the perspective that it is relatively comfortable and relatively soft and relatively not noticeable and quite practical, more so than the Ford GT. But the thing the Ford GT has over those cars is that it is durable.

And the 550 and 575, they are not durable, they are not reliable, they are expensive when they break. They are relatively reliable for Ferraris. If you were going to daily one, these cars, some of them have real miles on them. They're totally great, but they're not like the 4GT. And more importantly, at the end of the day, the 4GT just drives way better, like not even close.

Like simply drives much better, like an order of magnitude. As it should. Yeah, as it should. It's a different category, different year. 10 years newer. It's much newer. I think that's really the big factor, but there is nothing that would convince me to do it.

I still think about getting a Ferrari. Kenan is constantly getting on me about how I don't have a Ferrari. I've got these stick swap, Super America needs to happen. You've on one Ferrari and one BMW. It's silly. I got all these cars in my garage, and I got two Porsches now, which is honestly embarrassing. And I don't have a Ferrari.

What is going on? Well, it makes sense. Your use case for it is difficult. Why don't you convince me to get a Ferrari? I'll work on it. I'm trying to get you to a BMW first, and we're working our way there. You brought the M3.

Evo. Yeah. I do, dude, when I, when we do that, I will be able to race anybody in a Ford Fusion titanium. I don't think that's true. No, I think they could take you to Gapelbeast. Yeah, no. By now, though, they're all probably a little down on power. Yeah, you might have a shot. That's a good point. Maybe. It's a good point. Plus, when do you find one? This isn't here on Ohio, am I right? Yeah. Or Sandusky. Okay, next question. We have a few more. We got a few more questions here. Dear Doug, you don't seem to care about show-worthy, low-mileage cars. You like cars that are for driving. But do door dings and rock chips bother yours?

That part of what makes a car in your view. And then he says, do you pay to fix door-dings and rock chips in your cars? I never have ever. Not once. Remember when I sold those cars on the site with the broken windshields, and everybody got so mad at me. People are like, how could you do this? It's a windshield's broken. You could just replace it.

You can see it right there. Big crack. No, I don't fix any of that stuff. A little different opinions on this side of the table. Kenner, Nick, do you want to give yours? Yes, I'm very careful about where I park my car, so it's rare that it gets a door ding. But it, like, periodically it has to go in for dent removal,

PDR. It's not a big deal. Stone chips I'm actually less precious about. I've been waiting for one to hit my windshield for years. I'm so eager to replace that windshield, and it just never happens. Why? It's got lots of little chips in it, but nothing big enough to, like, I know if I replace it, that'll be the day I'd take a watch.

Yeah, place it. I hate the way PPF looks and it scratches every time you use them. I will say one of the reasons I don't care about this, I got PPF. So my big four, four of my big five, the 993, the 4 GT, the career GT, they are all P-PFed fully. The Kuntash isn't, but the paints trash. And I keep running it into stuff. So really, it's not a problem.

And so it's not as big of an issue to me because when you have the whole car PPF, including the windshield, you don't have to necessarily be quite as careful, especially about paint factory. The PDR doesn't bother me at all. I mean, yeah, you can just get that time. Yeah, it's true, yeah. For me, it's like, I don't know.

To do great PPP work versus painting, it costs the same. Like, if you realistically look in, and it's like, and PPP is not all it's cracked up to be. It stains and gets crap all over it. And you do it. It's like, there's a level of care required for it if you want, if you're me and want it to be perfect, that it's like it is more difficult than I had realized.

Never in my life have done anything. I'm aware. But, yeah, I don't know. It's just not, what about you? Are you bothered by rock chips? Somewhere between the two of you. They bother me, but I live with them. I drive the cars.

They all have imperfections. You find out about them. To your point, PDR and PPF, plus an occasional respray. I'm buying used cars. Right. I think it's if you buy something new and you want to preserve it, that's why the SLR bother me is it was 4,000-some miles.

I had to P-PF it because it just was too nice. And I knew I would screw something. And so he ended up P-PF for P-PFing random panels. He did like a couple of fronts, one of the sides. Well, I told Kevin do the front clip, and he's like, oh, well, while we're in there, we should do this part, we should do that part. And I didn't really do the calculus that he basically said, let's do everything but like a door.

but rock chips don't no listen we can't all be Kenan we wish we could God I yeah well yes okay next question from Kiro Mex

9192 Kiro Mex 9192 is there a cutting room floor of not safe for work Nick footage that we're all missing out on I swear a few weeks ago you and costume Kenon were laughing way too hard

at an innocuous Nick joke and it couldn't have just been the one that was said. I bet it wasn't. Yep. Our producer made the decision to cut that. It was really funny. Every time Nick's on the show. Nick, Nick starts a show with this,

with this man of the people. I don't support Bezos. I love the workers rant. You should see what he says when the cameras are off. Nick is one of the most entertaining people I know and there are things that we can't, for his safety we can't put out.

I like to think I have no filter. The realities I just don't think before I talk. similar though I mean that's the same thing There have been a number of clips circulated through the friend group of things I said that did not make the podcast so yeah it occasionally happens

I also think it's a good way to start the podcast if I make you laugh really hard and then throw you off your balance a little bit so sometimes I strategically plant something in there just to mess with your head and other times it just just how it comes out yeah sometimes it just comes out no Nick says a lot of stuff that is totally insane

we call him crazy Nick and I think that his full crazy isn't able to really shine through because some of the stuff just simply can't be put in front of hundreds of thousands of people. You know what's funny is the haters on the YouTube comment against me say that I don't take enough, like my opinions are very predictable and normal and that I need to like take a more controversial opinion. I'm like, those just get caught. His opinion is that's insane that he says that because he bought an SLR. The whole thing was that he got rid of his mercy, which everybody loves.

And then the S and then the S& got an SLR. that's the least predictable opinion. You know who else got an SLR? Mani got another one. No, he did not. He bought the one on Bring using an alias. You're kidding. He's going to do another HDK, full MSL recommission kind of thing.

But yeah, he got, I think it's his tenth. You're kidding. People say I have a problem. When he bought it, he then screenshots it on Instagram. He goes, wow, someone got an insane deal. And it was him. He later revealed that, so he was in on the joke. But like...

I love many so much. I love many's indescribably much. You know what you want to do? is you ought to burn down Manny's car warehouse because that would have a significant impact on the number of SLRs around. Don't give him an idea. Like 10 fewer cars.

Maybe the Rare Shades Festival needs to be hosted at the Coshbin Company headquarters. Dude, I got a Manny story for you that I've never told in this pod before. I went up to film something with him. I used to film with him. He doesn't really use his, like, he doesn't drive his cars, so I can't really film with him

because I like to do a drive, which is a shame because I legitimately liked Manny. I've met some people doing this who, and then I've met some people who I like. And Mani is one of the ones I truly liked. And he told me, because Mani had a yellow CareerGyT, and he told me right before they were starting to take off, as they were starting to take off, that he had sold it for like $6.50.

And he said it needed like $85 in service. It had needed the, at Curr GTs after like 15 years, and it needed the engine out, and it needed like, you know, the cams were pitting. I mean, it needed real service. And the market hadn't quite taken off yet. And I at that point was like, could have stretched and maybe. And, um, shame.

Got away. Yeah. That's a 2 million car now. Yeah. And I have stuck with silver. Meanwhile, made his stockpiling SLR. It should have been stockpiling of GROTZ. He messed up.

I mean, he was like Michael Burry in the big short. He's not wrong. He's just early. He's early. Yeah. He's early and it's all going to work out for him eventually. Nice. Great quote.

Uh, here's a question for you guys on the subject of craziness. Emmy 0402424. writes, you said that in the past, Crazy Nick is only at a 7 out of 10 for his YouTube videos, which is true, by the way. He's crazier on the pod, I think, than he is in his own videos. He almost needs people to, like, play off. Go to him on. Yeah. Like, you, when we do,

we did this thing with the A2 on the desert. We got to edit some of it because it's not appropriate. Look what. The car maintenance habits of people in parts of the middle of the country, we can't cover some of that. But anyway,

I don't recall that. I'll remind you off podcast. But anyway, on the same scale, the question asks, how much crazier is Doug in real life compared to the podcast? You are pretty crazy. We do give him a lot of schick, but you have a... It's fun setting you off. Like, when he says something, you go, what?

Doug is crazy in some other ways. I don't think people realize how deep your tennis addiction really runs. Yeah, I only like to talk about. cars. I don't really get into some of the non-car stuff. I have some real passions and interests that have nothing to do with cars that we never come. They run deep. All of a sudden, HOME mentions something. It's like, what long form did he read today where he got into that? So there's some, there's, yeah, Doug is a very crazy person as well. We're all pretty nuts in different ways. I always describe you as you're exactly in your videos how you are in real life. You think so? I see zero difference. You are

incredibly energetic and loud and fun, but like over the top at all times, on or off-com. I would argue, though, in the regular videos, not as much like that as I am in the pod, where I think my real, it's like how we all thought Jerry Seinfeld was like a warm teddy bear nice guy until we started watching comedians and cars getting coffee and we realized he hates everyone.

I don't hate everyone, to be clear. But I think there's like a personality shift that was realized when I got on the pot. I feel like when you're on the pod, you're not like really, you're maybe turning up the energy a little bit, but you're a very high energy. Like, this is largely a representative sample. As it is of you.

Yeah. This is real Nick. You come over, you compliment my home decor in the same calm manner that you speak here. It's very consistent. This is great stuff! You love my nautical theme.

This is great. I love that you've hung this generic picture of a boat from home goods a little bit off center on this wall that's 10 times larger than the painting. This is great. That's what I say.

I have heard him say. stuff like that before. Gosh, we did a walking tour of my neighborhood once. Oh, yeah, that was a... I couldn't look at any my neighbors in the eye for a while. That was a tough situation for everybody. I somewhat regret that, but also I couldn't stop it. Next question from Benny T.

Mostly for Doug. You have a short list of cars left after having so many. You have a short list of cars left after having so many. What else is on it? You know, it's an interesting point. And I've started to realize. that I don't have that many more cars left that I actually want, which is a scary thought.

I had made a list like 10 years ago of cars I want. And on that list, and I've kept it as an Apple note on my phone for 10 years, and on that list, I have either crossed off or no longer desired almost every car. And I'm not adding to it. I'm not sitting here like, ooh, this came out. I really want that.

It's getting slim, which is one of the reasons I haven't sold any of my special cars. I don't find replacements that I'm like really particularly interested in. When I look at my list of cars that I want, this famous list that I have that I've been keeping for so long, the only things that I see that I really, really still want, some sort of Euro-only Mercedes-AmG wagon, either a C-55 from 2005 or a C-43 from the late 90s

or an E-55 from 01, an Evo-6 left-hand drive in blue. They don't exist, basically. 9-96 GT2, 9-11. Mark 4 Super. turbo for sure. Mega Cruiser,

R34 GTR, that's kind of it. That's like six cars, right? And that's why I got my whole life left to live. What am I going to do? An F40. I mean, I got some expensive stuff on this list that would be amazing, but I couldn't afford it then,

can't afford it now. Probably never will, and I'm kind of okay with that. There's just not all that much stuff that I'm particularly interested anymore. And that scares me. That like literally scares me as well. I'm not exaggerate. Like, when I think about it, like, nothing, and cars aren't being built that I sit here thinking, that's going to go on my list.

Yep. My list is not long either as I look at it. What do you have one? You got a list? Of course. Yeah, and I made this probably also about six, seven years ago. Six, seven. Actually, not many.

Only one. Only two. Why are you like the guy? I don't know. You are a literal child. So, yeah, so for me, the only BMWs, Z4M Roadster, and Z8. They'll see they're on there. Not M-Coop's D.4M-Coop?

No, Rosedair. I live in something, California. Yeah, but the coop is cool. First-gen, V-12 Vanquish-S. CT5Ve-Blakwing, Dodge Viper, R-T-10, or S-RT-10. 575-6-9-9-9-9-6-1-1-Boxter. 9-9-9-8-1-Boxer Spider. But those cars will last be a while.

You know one of those every two years, you're good to your 60. Yeah, there you go. I'm screwed. Well, yes, we're different seasons of our lives. I'm out. Yeah. This is it. I don't know what to do.

We're not that different at age. I'm only seven years older than you are. That's a pretty significant difference. I want a list like that. Well, I'll send it to you. I'll take it to you. I think your book's incredibly long. It's very long, although I realize part of the reason it's so long is I have the blackwood in there twice.

He wants it so much. However, I think the problem we were discussing off-pot is, as you ascend the ranks of automotive vehicles, it's hard to take back steps, right? The termy cobra, for instance. We wanted that forever, but if you've had a Ford GT, it's a huge step backwards, and you're never going to drive it. Same with the multiple. Like, it's cool, but would I have an SLR and a P-38 and all these amazing vehicles to choose from? It's hard to choose the multiple. So that out of the way.

I agree with that. That's a point that is, like, real. I think about that a lot. Like, there are cars on this list that I really idolized at one point. Yeah. But then I look at it now, multiple was on my list. But I look at it now and I'm like, I know what that's going to be like. And I'm just not going to.

Been there done that. Been there done that kind of. Yeah, I think that's why all these brands are coming out that are like the SSE2 Atara and the Aspark Owl. For people who just, they got it all, what else is out there? Yeah, they need something more exotic and ridiculous. And so unless it has 2,000 horsepower and a 13 speed manual transmission, they're not interested. Yeah, so I will say I'm surprised at your list, like a Chrysler Emmy 412.

I do think that both of our list would change if our financial circumstances changed. Right. Oh, yeah, F50 would be on the list. I mean, yeah. Like, if I had a ton more money, there would be more cars. Not as many as I wish. But, like, if you had, you'd have F40, et cetera, et cetera. Powerball's at a billion dollars right now.

If I won that, like, it would be, yeah, I mean, absolutely. I'd chop up in an F50 next week. You know, it would almost be sad, though, because. It would be speedboat season, you know? It would almost be sad, though, because don't you think that we would eventually get to the same place with infinite money that we've gotten to without infinite money? You know, I think, sort of. It's almost nice to have... I don't know.

I think we're intellectual. I like to think we're intellectual enough. I think it would balloon like this, and then we'd kind of pare down and you just end up with a 993 turbo. But that's kind of my point. Like, in 10 years after you had infinite money, you'd sit there and be like, yeah, I have the X-A-2-20mend. And you know what? I didn't want any of those cars, and there's still nothing that I want. And now I have infinite money, and there's still nothing that I want.

That'd be sad. I almost don't want infinite money for that reason. I always, I would be nice to have something to aspire to. I think I'll take the infinite mind. Sounds pretty good to me. You get my point, right? Like, I have a suspicion that even with all the money, and I've seen this with car collectors that I know who have crazy money,

they get the F40, the F50, the Enzo, all the cars, and then eventually they're like, well, well, the Sultan of Brunei is the best example. He got so bored he just had stuff. Almost all the guys I know who are in that circumstance moved on to something like the Sultan, not paying Laurels Royce to develop their own cars, but like one-offs or weird customs or whatever. that like other guys couldn't,

rich guys couldn't have. Right. You know, if the Sultan Bernai was, Prince Jeffrey was doing this thing today, do you think he'd be getting in fights with CVK over Instagram? How sick would that be? Yes. Absolutely.

Wouldn't that be, like, that would be, I didn't think about that. Dude, the Sultan would be, like, it'd be like the UAE, honestly, be at the Middle East. Like, it'd be like rich people there. It'd be great. It'd be, oh my God.

Yeah. And it'd be hard to keep those cars off Insta. He wouldn't keep those cars off Instagram. No, I think he would have, He would want to be in there. Yeah. He did everything but too early. Nick, what's on your list?

I mean, do you want the serious cars or the cannibal cars? Hit me with 10 randoms. Let me have, you got it up? You got it up? Let me, let me say it. Let me say, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Okay.

C5 RS6 stick swap. CLS 55. What? What? Really? That's a 63, which was more powerful in the same body. I go with the M-130. 15-5 is more reliable.

Yeah, okay. Okay. Funkmaster Flex Ford Expedition. That'll be a car I'm immediately disappointed in, but yes, I want one. It was just an expedition with different paint. That's it, though. The FMF logo. Otherwise, it's like a 2012 Ford Expedition. You may not appreciate the finer details of Funkmaster Flex, but some of us do.

O2 to 06 Jaguar XKR. That's bad, the previous body. You know, I like the previous body, but O2 is a facelift, and they took care of some issues. I actually really like the 96-97s. ML55 or 63, radically different cars. X54.8, but he doesn't want the 4.6, the better looking one. Well? Pajero Evo.

Why? He wrote M-Coop, and then he wrote S-52 or S-54. In other words, M-Coop. He's got some checkdown. I wanted to remind myself not to be too snobbish that the 52 is probably fine. He has on here P-38 check, another P-38 check, and he has hopefully one more P-38. 430 skewed conversion 575 conversion 599 conversion okay R63 any progress on the R63 front no there's literally one for sale and it's pewter and I

don't want pewter no you don't I have been there done that yeah yeah you didn't you didn't never see my pewter station wagon you should have would have turned you off pewter even more yeah for ranger splash flare side go to the site ideally in yellow yeah but the red looked pretty good type in ranger splash this is another one of those nostalgic. Here. That's it. Yeah, that white one's pretty good.

Although, again, yellow or red, ideally. That was in the Hoyo. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is a two-wheel drive. You could have been there, dude. I know. This is a terrible driving experience.

I'm sure. I mean, go to the interior. You remember this interior? Yeah. It's a Ford Explorer 91 and 94. Yep. Yeah. Anytime I see, it's funny, because so many cars, the outside, you look, oh, okay, and then you

look at the interior and it's like, I know what that feels like. I know what that, I know what that smells like. I don't want anything to do with that. I would love to get one, like, it doesn't have to be a flare side or a splash because I don't want to, like, ruin an important car. But I would like to get a pickup one day that's like body dropped and can lay for it. Shave door handles, like just go full-blown, like mini-truck nationals circa 2004. God. All right, folks, this being the Christmas episode, I want to stop a little early today because we received some gifts, some holiday gifts from some viewers.

Yes, we did. like to show us what people have sent us. And by the way, if you're at home and your thing you want to send us something, don't. Instead, send us an email to shan at Cars &Bids.com. That's S-E-A-N-Shawn at Cars and Bids.com. All right, we have several gifts.

So one of them is a Nissan Armada Cologne. You're kidding. Now, I'm guessing that that smells like... Oh, God. Uber. Like someone's trying to cover up menthol smoke. I was going to say... It smells like bad.

financial decisions and yeah and going way too fast on the highway but yeah fascinating uh how greenlet this at nissan they're that desperate to this must have been is this new or old hard to tell it's still shrink rack all right nick huh no we're not i'm not taking out of the box you kidding this is this is high quality stop i'll try it if it's thallate free nick given that this is the nissan armada What are the three languages on the bottom that the warning has been translated into? All Eastern European Beyond that, I don't know.

Polish? No, come on, check. Where is the Armada the most popular? Well, I assume Japan, because it's a Japanese vehicle. The first language on here is Arabic. Arabic? Okay, yeah. Oh, yeah, Sand Dunes.

And then it's French and English. This is the greatest gift we've ever been given. Nissan Armada clone, This is the kind of thing they give you at press launches. Folks, I don't go to automotive press launches anymore, but my biggest regret not going to the press launches is that I don't get gifts anymore. They used to give me the worst gifts you could imagine, and I've saved them all, and I have some wild gifts.

Like my Nissan Z sushi knife, remember that? Oh, that's a good one. That's a really good one. But although you don't get those gifts anymore, we do have more gifts that people have sent us. What's this one? This one, I don't know. Maybe these are spiders.

I have no idea what these are, but they sent us a little card as well. In a baggy? I will let you read. This is gonna- There's anthrax. There's anthrax in here. Dear Doug, Kenan and Felipe and Crazy Nick, I hope you enjoy opening the finest collection of 20-year-old authentic imported cars direct from Albania.

Oh my God. Not anthrax. And it comes with a... Oh, Sport! Cross-blade! No way! This is... Let me have one. This one has Italian.

plates on it. Although they could be like this place for it. And then here's a non-crossed. You're kidding. Some guy, okay, wait, this came from Jason in Albania and they're cars in eggs and they're, this one is fake. Oh my God, that one's broken apart.

This is the greatest gift I've ever seen. The crossplate is the coolest. Jason is actually a doctor in Farmington, Utah. Oh, oh, this is a smart 4-4. God, Pilippo's going to go nuts. That weird Karshon one.

The Renault sports Let me see. Is that a sports fighter? That's a smart. That's a smart roadster. Okay. Close enough. They're easily assemblable too.

This is amazing. This is the greatest gift that anyone's ever given me, even better than the Cologne. Nick, are you seeing this? You see, you don't get press launches, but you're not getting this stuff at press launches. This is one of those, what was this thing called? If Kenna and I stick with YouTube for another 10, 12 years, we might be getting stuff like this. They're sending this to all of us. He says, Dear Doug, Kenon, Philippo, and Crazy Nick, and he spelled all of our names right.

No one. No one does that. Thank you very much. That's very kind of you. That's a detail that's often missed. This is, I know, Philippo's name has never- Oh, I've seen it. I mean, don't open my God. Nick, this was going to go in my press watch collection. Can we, can we just show how, like, this is pretty nice. All right, Nick, you got out, since you've opened it, let's spray a little bit. Don't, not on me, on your wrist, on your wrist, on your wrist, what are you doing? Oh, he's just embracing it. That's how you're supposed to do it.

Well, if you like how it smells, I mean, it's feeling like an armata. These are the greatest things I've ever been given. Dude, I'm taking the smart crossblade home. This is so cool. That's right. You can't smell. I can't smell yet. Do you see the smart crossblade human people?

No. Not great. It's too small. And you know what? That's what makes it so great. You agree, these are the greatest gifts we've ever been given. Well, I don't know. We got more time.

It doesn't end there. Wait, hang on. Hang on. There's an explanation for these gifts. Also, I gave you part of a Whistland Diesel's G-Wagon. Magic Kinderer. They're Kinder eggs with smart cars in them. This one is for you specifically.

This is a bath mat. A bath mat. A shape like what appears to be a low-body, kuntosh. It's my kuntash. You ever seen it? It looks low-body to me. No, no. Take it up.

It's mine. Pick it up on that side. This would be good when you get out of your car wearing lonely socks. This is a five-liter. That's so true. Put it out and then you can clean your socks off before we enter. That's such a great point. This is really good.

That is legit. This is not a low body. This is a little bit. This is exactly my car. I don't know. It looks a little. White black, white wheels. It's very cool.

Very soft, too. Is it? Yeah. We're going to use it in our bathroom here in the office? You know what? We might, actually. But there's one more, and this one is probably the most impressive. This is the most impressive. I have to be very careful.

I want a crossblade again. I'm putting it back on the list. This is an F40LM. This is an F40 LN. This was made by a viewer in New York, and he put this together completely out of cardboard, and he did it completely himself. There's nothing like that was bought and put on here. He made everything himself from, like, the calipers to the wheels,

so the engine compartment. Folks, because we cannot have an F40, we have this instead. We have this F40 LM, which is so cool. I have a very specific honorary place I'd like to put it in our office, but this is really neat. It's not going to go behind the pod studio?

Well, it's room's getting tight back there. I might be able to squeeze it in. We have some of the most bizarre and interesting car stuff that has ever existed. Where did we get that piston? That was from... Hold on this one. It was from...

Oh. The carpet's very difficult here. This is from one of our employees named Colton. It's from an engine that he blew up. And so that is a twisted connecting rod. That's a lot of force. That is a lot of force. I mean, there's where the valve met the piston.

I mean, that's a tough loss. I mean, even when you money shifted, you didn't do this. Nope. I think you did. Not this bad. Because I didn't money shifter. It was some detonating due to a faulty tune. Had I money shifted, it would have been a lot harder to rebuild.

These are all great gifts. We love all the weird car stuff we have here. Obviously, the greatest gift we've ever been given is each other on this holiday season and also this crossplay. No, this F40 is very cool. You have a place for it. It will live in our office. It will live in our office with tremendous honor. It is really cool.

Again, if you want to send us gifts, the address to send them is Sean at Carsonbids.com. S-E-A-N at Cars and Bids.com. That's where you send them to. This was our podcast with questions. Nick, do you have any parting thoughts? No, I was just wondering what automotive gifts I've given or received that were good. It's very hard to buy and gift for carp. You gave us my very favorite gift on this podcast.

Do you remember what it was? Did you buy again? Whistling Diesel. Yep. Whistling Diesel, known taxi Vader. Just kidding. Free Whistlin! There it is.

He destroyed a G-E-E-E-E-A-E-E-E-E-A-E-E-E. which I'm sure was titled in Montana. And we have a portion of it right here. And it's obviously I'm a huge Wilson fan, as I've mentioned many times in the pod, which by the way, whenever I say it, the amount of people in the comments were like, I lost all respect for Doug.

Yikes. Anyway, this was a gift that you gave us and it's amazing. Yeah. We've kind of had a little bit of a truce inside of the group on giving each other gifts because everyone, one, one, and buys everything they want, but two, I think just a very difficult crowd.

The gift card we got for you the one year so that you could get around your budget cap on maintenance is a good one. This year it works. You know how else? He got a red bat? He got a second card and just spent a tons of money on that instead. Maybe he's like pad the invoice on this one by a grand, and then put it into my other one.

Hey, I've done a great job. Just write a line man, don't write which cards. We'll review in the new year whether I cross the line or not. I think, was it you that got Sam It was like cameos of like Parker Newienstein his birthday

Do you remember this? Oh yeah I got Parker But then I was worried Parker wouldn't get back So I also got a second Cambeo from someone Ed Bowley

That's right, yeah Does that still a thing? It's still around But I think it's Not like it was during COVID Yeah It was great That was a great gift by you

Merry Christmas Happy Holidays Happy Hanukkah Happy New Year's You know The Merry Christmas Happy Holidays thing I never got

Because there are two holidays It's even the people Who are all Christmassy It's Christmas and New Year's That's the holidays. No, and Hanukkah. Well, no, I know, but people are like, I'm not gonna say anything other than Merry Christmas.

And Festivist. But even the Merry Christmas people, New Year's is a holiday that is also a day off at this time. I've never understood that. So you're happy holidays, nothing further. Happy Holidays even includes Merry Christmas. You understand what I'm saying? It's just a Larry David level of speciality.

But you get my point. You get my point. So it's like, I'm not going to say anything with Merry Christmas. Well, what, you're not wishing me a happy New Year? You're sitting here, you're not wishing a bad New Year? That is some... I'm offended. I'm offended.

Goodbye everyone. Goodbye.