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Episode Date: December 27, 2024

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Hello and welcome to this car pod. I'm Kenan. And we have a special Christmas episode of This CarPod where we're primarily going to be taking your questions that you asked on our Christmas document. Felipe will step in for that. But right now we have a special guest. His name is Anders Holm. And he is a famous celebrity actor, well known from the show Workaholics, which he created and stars in. And he is selling a very very. special car on cars and bits.

So with that, let's talk about the AMG wagon. Tell us about it. I mean, it's, I just took it to go get washed right now. And every time, without fail, someone you drive by

goes like this. Yep. Yep. Especially in that color. Because they know. If you know, the color is weird and crazy because you just don't see it. You see white. You see black. Right. You always see black interior. Right. Mine is red.

Mine is the dark brown interior with black wood, which I just don't know if it exists outside of my car. Right. So to be honest. Talk me through. Start with what made you purchase the car in the first place. How long have you had it? It's your fault. I was going to build.

I've had it since 2019 or 2018. You know how the years never line up. But it is a 2019. I got it. probably towards the end of the year. I was looking, looking. I was going to build a Porsche Panamara because I just fell in love with the idea

of how good it looks finally. And I drove it and I was like, God, this feels nice. But I never quit looking for the wagon because I just knew it was everything I wanted. Right. And so I was going to build one. And this was a time when like the supply chain

was getting all jacked up. And it was like, hey, if you want one, it's going to take 18 months, not four or five or whatever it usually was. Right. And so I just was like, oh, I can't handle this. And so I wanted to build my AMG wagon. And then they kept being like, hey, green doesn't exist anymore.

And I'd go, okay, Navy. And then they'd call and go, actually, Navy doesn't exist anymore either. and I'm like, well, I don't want white. I don't want black. I don't even want the Matt Silver, which I think looks cool, but like just isn't me. And then I just kind of sat around waiting and looking.

And then out of nowhere in Arcadia, red showed up. And I'm not even like ready for a red car. It's just, it's a lot, you know? But it's fun. And the interior I hadn't thought of. That wasn't what I expect. But it actually looked better in person than I,

I thought on like the, you know, build your own car thing. So what was the story? Was this a new car at the time or that someone that they just ordered for stock? Or was it used car that someone had bailed out of? Brand new, showed up on the lot. I called the day of or the day after. And I'm like, is this someone's? And they were like, no.

And so I had kind of a car guy looking for for me. And I called him to call them. That is a brave dealership ordering that color combination as a stock unit, hoping that they find somebody for it. I mean, you know how it goes. it must have been like a favor. Yeah. It was like,

we're going to give you all these, but we have this built sitting here. No one wants it because it's a station wagon. It's red and has ceramic brakes, which no one wants to order. Right. Yeah. But they look good with the red.

The red and yellow looks good. So take me through. So you've had the car now for four, five, six years. Why are you getting rid of it and what is replacing it? I never drive it because I'm always gone filming. Yeah. I'll be honest.

I'm not that gone that off in filming, but I like to say I am. No, but I am out of, I am out of the house or out of town for at least six months a year. Yeah. Working and my car just sits there.

Yeah. And I never really drive it. And I also just, I thought about getting rid of it earlier. And I got a Tesla. I got a Model S. And then I just, just was like, I can't, I can't get rid of it.

I can't. That was two years ago. Yeah. It was me being like, yeah, but let's go electric. Let's do that. The user interface of Tesla is just so easy, you know, but I would take it out on the weekend and I would just haul ass around corners and like, it just feels good. You put it in Sport Plus and it kind of just, it's exactly what you want it to be. Do you, do you haul children around in this car? Do you have kids? Yeah, yeah, I got three kids.

So you're using it. Pardon. Yeah, I'm using it. I'm using it. I've even slept in it. Wow. And how many AMG wagon owners can say that? And by the way, did I sleep in it just so someday I could go on a podcast with Doug

Demiro and say I slept in it? Maybe. You know, we got to, we got to have five-year plans. We got to think these things ahead. But no, I'd see you. review of it and been like, well, if this dude's calling it the best car ever, I got it. I got to get it. You know, and to be honest, the Panama, it just was less user-friendly as far as like packing stuff in the back. And like, it's wider. It's a bigger car. Yeah. It's way more expensive. And it's not faster.

Right. And it's, you know, so I just started doing all the math and crunching the numbers and was like, this is it. Yeah. Yeah. makes sense. Yeah. Well, so are you going to replace this car with anything or is the Model S the replacement? The Model S is the temp replacement. My wife also has a Rivian. Um, so what I like to, to tell you is that I think it's very possible that the cumulative Doug score I had in my driveway. Pretty solid. Probably better than anybody. You have the Rivin. You have the R1S. You have the R1S, Rivian, the SUV. Yes. Yeah. The SUV, have the SUV, have the AMG wagon and then have have the Tesla.

That's so true. Because those cars hit every category, which is they're fast and they're practical and they're luxurious. And most of the time, people only get one of them, but you have for some reason gotten three. You've really run the gamut. I'm redundant.

Redundant, redundant. Yeah, but we just, like I said, I was going to get rid of the wagon, but then I just couldn't. It's too fun to drive. I never tracked it. Like I thought maybe I would. But the like, I was like, well, you got to buy new tires.

Okay. But the thing that really tripped me up is I was like, I'm not buying a helmet. I'm not buying a helmet to go track this one time. And then I just have a helmet in the garage that people go, what's that? And I go, ah, I tracked it one time. But the helmet is sort of like the first step to the track day problem. You get a helmet. You're like, well, I got a helmet already.

I might as well get a race suit. That's how you become a degenerate. You get right. Maybe I got a car hauler and a trailer and all that stuff. Well, I'm excited for it to sell. I'm excited to see it on the site. Tell us what other interesting cars. Have you had interesting cars in the past, in your past life?

You know, I haven't. I wouldn't call myself a car enthusiast. I'm not somebody who can name like the actual names of all the Porsches. You know what I mean? Like by year and all that. None of us can anymore. It's okay. You just need to know one.

It's 9-11. I think we're exactly. But I am an enthusiast. I am somebody who I'm like a design person, you know. And so, you know, even as a kid, I can remember very specific cars. But yeah, I'm a Volvo guy. I've always been a Volvo guy.

I think the car in the show is actually relevant to your existence, the 740. Yes, this is true. This is true. This is, and I remember when we were developing workaholics and we were like, oh, let's have like an old shitty car. And someone was like, what about those old cool volvos? And I was like, I think those are too cool. Yeah. Let's go a few years ahead to this other body style that's not cool at all.

Right. And let's have that be the car. That's so true. The 240 is too cool. It has become a hipster icon. The 740 is indeed not cool. What was your first car? My first car was a 1981 Pontiac Bonneville. So this was a hoopty that my mom drove through the 80s and then I got when I was 6.5. and it was very old. I only had it for a few months before it crapped out, and then I got my dad's 85 Country Squire. Oh, wow. So there was a wagon history here,

the Country Squire to the AMG wagon. How many people made that transition? Not many again. I mean, it's kind of in the DNA. It's in the DNA. I have two older brothers. I think we went through three or four wagons between my dad and the three of us.

We had a mercury, but the Country Squire had like a five. liter engine or something crazy. Yeah. And a massive rear end. Probably got two miles per gallon. Probably better about what you get in the AMG station. I'll tell you this. More people slept on that than they have. Yeah. People are still sleeping on that on the streets,

LA right now. There's no doubt. There's no doubt. But whenever I see one go by, I'm like, the wallet opens. I'm like, do I just go buy that from that person? No. I mean, I promise you, I've done this myself and I promise you, the memory of the car, is better than actually going, doing that experience again.

Right. Right. You don't want to go. And smelling whatever 40 years of car smells like that's been actually lived in. Right. Do you think that the electric cars are going to do it for you? You think they're going to be enough for you coming out of the station wagon with the big V8? You think you'll be happy with that?

You know, it is definitely not as sensory. Like, it's not as fun, but it's still fast. It's just a different kind of sensory. It doesn't hit as many boxes when you floor it. Right. But like you can only floor it so often before you're like, yeah. Right. That's what it does.

Exactly. It's kind of a one trick pony. But I guess my question is, would you consider something that's a little bit older and more design-focused but gives you that visceral like sports car? Like it's a very fun toy just to have like tucked on the corner for when you are home and you want something fun. Yeah. Yeah. I've thought about it. And part of me is to.

like forward thinking. Like I don't want like an old radio where we have to like push the button in for like the preset to slide. You don't have to go that old. You don't have to go to the 50s. Well, yeah. But like I just,

I want a touchscreen now. Like I want all the stuff integrated. And so I also enjoy as much as I enjoy like a classic look of a car. I don't mind like taking a swing on something new and being like, no, this is going to be a modern day classic. Like I think the next car, we have like a cabin and I need to get a car for the cabin.

And maybe I bought a cabin to get a car for the cabin. The look of the new Volvo V90 wagon, like the cross country, I'm like, isn't this the best looking car on the road? What is happening? It gets, and that will get you back from wagon to wagon and the circle will continue to complete itself. I just think it's so sharp. If they made that electric, I think it would be my last car. I'm sure it will be. I'm sure the next generation will have some sort of plug-in hybrid component,

and you'll be able to hop right back into a station wagon like you were intended to from birth. He's a wagon man. Yeah. Well, I'm really excited for the AMG wagon to be on the site and to see what happens to it. I'm sad that you'll be selling it, but I have to assume someone very very excited will be getting that color combination. It's a very, very special car. Yeah, and I brought it to you, I brought it to cars and bid because I knew that people who would be on there would get it. Right.

You know, this isn't something you just throw on another website. I won't name, you're welcome. Because they won't get it. It'll sit there and they'll go, oh, why isn't it a sedan? Right. We are wagon central. We've sold so many AMD. I think my audience has always been into them because I've always had all these crazy wagons.

And so I've always been like the wagon central. Oh, G-Waggag. Yeah. the G-Wagon is going. But we have sold a lot of AMG station wagons and deservedly so. They are some of the coolest cars on the road. And I'm sad you'll be getting out of yours, but I hope there is another wagon in your future. I think there will be. And I just want to include this tidbit. The collapsible crate that comes with the wagon is still there. Nice. Waiting for the buyer.

Nice. That is the kind of thing. To show that to their partner or wife or family that it is. It's just a station wagon. That's all it is. It's a practical car. You can convince them of that. And look how well it's been maintained. The guy still has the original collapsible crate. He's real. Yeah, only 20,000 miles on it. So, yeah, I had fun with it, but I never, like, really broke her in.

This is your chance to take it to a track day between when we're filming this and when the auction goes live, this is your opportunity to get on. That's right. We don't tell anybody. Why are these tires bald? That is weird. We won't say anything to anybody, I promise. Yeah. Get that helmet.

Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on. We appreciate it honors. and we look forward to the auction. Hey, thanks for having me on. Pleasure to talk with you guys. And fingers crossed on this finding a new owner who has as much fun as I did. As much as you do, indeed.

Yeah. Okay, back to the next segment of the Christmas special, This Car Pod, where we answer your Christmas special questions. I'm Felico. For next week. I believe. Lupo is bad. I don't know who buy a pilot. Hi.

For next week's podcast, you want to ask us questions. Go to Carsandbids.com. So come the community tab. There will be a poster that says, these are where you post your questions, and then you ask your questions, and we will answer them no matter how brilliant. But this week, we had a holiday special questions document.

It was that one, and we're just going to answer them all. Let's do it. Not all of them. It's like 90, but we're going to answer a few. Okay, starting with IndCan, who has a lot of questions. Hey, guys, if you could go back in time and have the required funds, what do you wish your first car was based on what was available in period Merry Christmas to all. F-40.

I mean, you don't want that to be your first car. I don't know. I mean, he says like it sounds like unlimited money in period. The car was available. You don't want that to be your first car. How are you going to show up to your high school in an F-40? Like the biggest baller there possibly could be? I'll tell you what.

That's almost a show up. No, no, no, no. You don't actually want an F-40. Oh, you actually want. F-50. Good point. Yeah, very practical. Enzo, you're dread.

F-60. I don't. The F50 is pretty easy. What would you actually want? I don't know. What was your first car? I had a 1996 Volvo 850 turbo, which in the United States is 22 hours power.

The United States, turbos were only sold. It was the top of line model in 96, except for the R. So it wasn't the top of the line model. Well, the turbo in the R, in the Volvo 850 community, all right, you know, let's just do this.

Nobody's going to watch this episode. Now we're getting you got on Volvos, but the turbo in the R. In the 850 community, the R is vaunted. It's like the special one. In the U.S., they were all sold with four-speed automatic

The R didn't have anything special. It had 18 more horsepower than the turbo, which is not anything. 20% percent. It had fog lights, Alcintura seed inserts, and different wheels. That was it.

That's 10% more power. It's 10% more power. That was it. Anyway, the point is, when you were 16, in the realm of reason, like if you had instead of A50R, 850 turbo money,

you had like two or three times that. What would you actually have wanted to have? I really wanted a Volkswagen Carado. That was like my first. I mean, two, three times. What I really wanted, and I begged my first. parents for was a tooth was a bug eye

WRX which had just come out really cool and I don't know why I thought that was even on the table it was a 23,000 like the concept of us getting a car like that they didn't ever spent that much money on the car for themselves right but I really wanted it it didn't happen and I still never gotten one you actually had a

525 I had an yep it was surprise people don't yeah I had an E339 I had a 2001 E33525 I It was manual with the with the sport premium packages tope has blue with a gray interior I loved that What happened to that car? I ended up selling it when I got the M5 just because I didn't have room for it in the garage.

It was very sad. I saw a guy who I thought was going to take great care of it and absolutely did not. When he called me two years ago and was like, hey, you know, I've still got the car. It's not in great shape anymore, but if you wanted to buy it back. And I was like, what do you mean? Head gasket was blown. The rust had really started. He didn't have any rusts, like, didn't do any preventative.

And it was like the car really sunk into the ground, which made me so sad. And I saw it on Facebook Marketplace for like 18. hundred dollars he drove the car yeah but i drove it and took care of it that's the difference like i do with all of my cars and at that one time you'd drop the ladder on it so the answer that did happen so no no i mean i ended up with one anyway but no the so i looked at a couple of very interesting cars in period that i could have had that were great one was a 1989 Porsche 9-11 Carrera the beautiful guards red black interior yeah it had a hundred thousand miles on it and it was 12 5 i think What year was this?

This was, this would have been 2012, 11, 12, I think. I think that's right, 11 or 12. That was one. I also looked at a first-gen, NSX. That was around that. It was about 15 grand. Why did you choose the new third and?

My parents, my parents, I show them one thing. Absolutely not. You're not driving a sports car to high school. Yeah. And so that didn't happen. And then I ended up getting the 525 eyes the first car. But what would you, okay, answer the question,

what would you have wished? Well, I mean, if I could have wished anything at that time, I don't know. I really wanted an E46M3 at that time. That was like what I thought that would be. I thought the N46M3 convertible with the hard top for like winter use would have been pretty cool. It's hard to explain how cool that and the S-2000 were at that time. Like now they're cool, but like then, I remember idolizing those cars. And there was a kid that I knew at college who had an E46M3 when it was.

And this was 2007-8. I mean, the car was two years old. and he was the coolest dude Yeah, that's cool. Period. It's just straight up the coolest dude there was. Totally. What was your first car? The first car I owned was the Kia Spatchewa.

Yeah, but what was the first car you drove when you were in Madison, Wisconsin is a high school? A 2003 Honda Pilot. Okay, you drove your parents Honda Pilot. You had to be like, you had to be like, Mom, can I have the keys? For a bunch of reasons, but I hashed had a lot of use of the car. My mom was working in New Hampshire where we lived in Wisconsin.

That's the most of the road. So I'm surprised. So she had a car there, but then of just myself and I, and we actually both walked most places. Well, yeah, because she's using the car drive between Wisconsin or New Hampshire. What, um, it's an insane thing. It's an insane thing. You had to drive the car to subway, or did you want to subway where you were? I sometimes walked, but I did drive the car.

Bleepo was a subway sandwich artist. And then I was a senior sandwich artist. Senior sandwich artist. And then a shift manager, but that's the shift manager. I was a 17-year-old. Shefmanager. Every Friday, every Friday. Friday night, every Saturday from 7 to 3,

every Sunday from 8 to 3. Okay, you liked, it's incredible that you still know your schedule. It was every week for legit, every week for two years. All right, you liked cars then. You probably didn't have any outlet for it, you know? You're like a, I think, I was a thing about this.

A small town, you know, there's nothing. Just hope with this someday, you know. So, so what did you do? What cars were you interested in? I think that I would have most loved to have either like a, sob 93 sport comby or sub 95 sport combi or like a V70R

I don't know that I would have put those words to it but when I was browsing Craigslist it was a lot of sobs and bollos. Okay. I'm kind of too practical a person. I'm not going to buy something. He was browsing Craigslist in high school for sobs and volos and his first car was years

later in college he bought a Kia. Even then he was Felipe. Oh yeah, all that big subway money and he still wasn't spending it. He had aspirations of something cool and what he did was he bought a Kia for a lot. Years later. In the middle of college, I spent a summer in Madison

after my family had moved, working for the Department of Ed. And I came really close to buying a sob 900. And then driving it home. But you didn't? Why didn't you? The guy ended up to accept something out. Like, I went and test drove it. He won $900.

And then something came up. I don't remember those. He wouldn't spend $900. No, no, no. I was ready to. Just something came. I don't remember what it was. You're going to die and regret the things you never did.

Oh, yeah. Which are considerable. Not only am I worried about that. I'm 100% confident that that's exactly what will happen. All right. Next question. I can't spend that long on that question, but it's a good one. Next question, Tramont 44 asks, what is the dumbest car opinion you have ever heard? Oh. Oh.

Let me. Are you putting to me or you put it into a producer? Because one of those is acceptable. Oh, our producer has some humdingers. There are some bad ones, but I've never heard one that makes me be like, that is really dumb. Like, I don't know. There's so many that you forget. We forget some dumb ones generally.

Our friend Kevin once said that the 355 is the perfect car to EV swap. Now, for reliability, I can see it. However, there are two reasons down at 355. One is the way it looks. And the other is the sound it makes. And you're taking away probably the more important of the two. I don't make the sound most of the time. It makes it enough.

I don't know. I've never heard of any really crazy demo opinions that I can just remember offhand. Right. Right. That I can remember hard. I try to get them out of my memory. Okay. Keep thinking on it.

I'll keep next question for Brandon TRD. Question for all. Will you get your children cheap, cool, slash enthusiast cars for their first car, even if they are not interested in cars? If so, what would you want them to drive? Happy holidays.

Happy holidays, do you, Brent? Happy holidays, indeed. I don't plan to get, I want my children something safe when they turn 16 because I've seen 16-year-old, I got two boys. I've seen 16-year-old menish boys drive. Right, they want to 40. Yeah, we do.

My answer is that I think that because we're all car people, we'll all be inclined to get something a little bit on the more interesting side. Like, marginally. I just want something safe. If they want to get something interesting, they got to work for it, that pay like I had to. I think they got, I just want to get something safe and boring. I can't agree with that. But I think it can be interesting.

There is value to be interesting. They might are more likely to care about it, more likely to treat it well of their bond. That was my case, certainly. And I did take very good care of it. Maybe. But that's because it's me. It's events on. The guy you sold it to.

Geez. Look at him. I think we're all. Ken and I don't have kids. It was so good. That Ken and I don't have a car right now. Pull up the vent. Put up in.

Ken and I don't have kids. Doug have two kids. But they're still ways removed from driving age. I think we're not ready for the question. We're not ready for the question. But in the spirit of the question, I really do think I wouldn't, an enthusiast car would not be my top choice. I just want safe, boring.

I might keep you over the stance. It'll be something a little bit more interesting that they might have some interest in. Or at the least you want to see part of it. to front of your house. Like a keep up appearance. Like a corolla hatchback instead of a regular corolla. I don't. It's,

I just safe. You don't care about those cars. No, I actually like the coral hatchback a lot. And when I see them, I think to myself, that would be a great rally car. And then they made the junior corolla.

You see a corolla hatch on the road. It's like wide. It looks like a four-wheel drive. Shout out to Julian Tristan. Oh, okay. Next question from Danger D. This is a great one.

And I think it's for us. Okay. Considering how hesitant, Felipe is to make a decision. see the three car garage video how is he able to manage an organization like cars and bids that's a great one that really cuss i mean it's there's a lot of new like did i did i asked this did i did i come up with a burner account and ask this question so filippo is because other people have opinions and philippo then weighs them and that's how he like well people have a

think of what I should buy. He's like the president. Yeah, but like this is, make the decisions. He consults all the advisors and then kind of like based on how things are going. He does like a long cost benefit analysis. And then he eventually decides in some manner that sort of placates all of them a little bit and isn't really. As a as a, I wouldn't call us a startup so much anymore. But as a nimble company, it's like often decisions happen quickly. But with Felipe, with doing all this, there's room to take time and and do we think about it. You know, he's time.

You know, I think. that the problem with the car the difference between the two is at cars and bids he can make a decision and sort of make a let's try this let's do a car isn't all or nothing right buy it or you don't that's what it is it's that the business has to make money and that's what he wants to is make make business make money with him again the car thing he's hung up on is spending money he just he can't handle spending money but you can make money by being more efficient through operations very funny we're wrong about this yeah the big difference because i actually do not have nearly that much trouble making it decision be like what house to buy we we've bought and sold houses way easier the issue

that purchasing a car is all about my own enjoyment and and and i don't trouble doing something for his own enjoy i i weigh that very differently than like a business decision or something that's like a clear pragmatic decision very way easier than that's the difference is pragmatic versus fun he doesn't do fun right that that is a much more correct answer no no no i don't think it's not better it's not better. It's not better. And it's also being brutally honest about my, this is a good therapy session here. It's good. It's just some fully post-exam. Well, yeah, except

for like, we got you to spend money on tennis shoes in a tennis racket. Yeah, I bought a pair tennis shoes. I know, but that's like, that was more money you've ever spent on a pair of shoes in your life. And the racket was expensive. So true. What are those shoes caught? $70.00? You bought them last week. I know, but I didn't have a choice. It was just like I'll buy these whatever they cost. They're

inelastic. I think $70 or $80? They buy some tennis shoes in a lot. It's for me, it's any less a guy. These shoes make me a superhero. I need them. Do they light up? They could charge $10,000 and I'd still buy them. Thankfully, they'd charge $70 or $80.

All right. Next question from Pirate Boy. You've answered the question, Filippo in a great way, and I appreciate that. Philippo does not spend money on joy. Yeah. But that is the summerization of it. Pirate Boy says, with Audi discontinuing, the A5S5 RS5 Coops in 25, sort of. The Volkswagen Group will know.

What do you mean, sort of? Well, yeah. They're still doing the hatchbacks. No, that's the point. The Coops, he said the Coops. Well, BMW calls them Coops. Okay. The AdW Group will no longer produce any two-door coups in the United States.

German Coops are becoming less desirable to enthusiasts, less common every day. Do you think there will be a price increase for well-maintained, used German coups and sedans following this trend in the coming years? I have to say, I think the answer is probably no, because I think that the reason these cars are being discontinued is because demand is drying up. And so my view is, like, there's just less buyers for them on the new market. there's probably going to be fewer buyers for them on the use market too. Yeah, really nice, well-maintained RS5 is going to do well.

RS5V8, S5V8 with a stick. But I think that was always going to be true. Yeah, I agree. Even if they had continued making them, just because those were desirable cars, V8 power manual transmissions in the case of the S-5. There's no market for them. Honda's coming out with a new prelude. Yeah.

But it's a civic coupe, which exists. But it's going to be a hybrid. Right. And sure, Mertadetian. still sells the CLE, whatever. He's called prelude. I know, I know. I know.

Okay. Some words he's only seen written. Right. English is not his first language. That is one of those words you see written. I'm not watching videos about preludes. That's one of those words you see written. On the wall.

It's great. Yeah. There's no real market. You know, military, that's one of those words you hear spoken. Prelude? I also don't, I'm not going to say I'm wrong. Oh, well. my god i mean you don't you know people aren't saying prelude a lot and that is why i reacted

the way that's why it hit all of our ears the same way they're off yeah i hit my own the thinking is they're coming out with a coop is surprising i who's the market the coop thing is dead when i was a kid a child mind you the baby toddler there were coups of every people in watch this like when they first celebrate the holidays he's he's over here same prelude There were coops of everything, all right? The Toyota Echo had a coop. Toyota Echo was exclusively a coop. There was a four-door.

And in Canada, there was a hatchie. Yep. It's a vits. And there were coups of everything. The Chevy Cavalier had a coop. The Pontiac Sunburn. I mean, it was like if you had a car, you had a coop. Remember Hyundai came out with an launcher coop at the tail end of that,

like thinking that they could do it still. And now it's just all, people get to say, I was told by someone in product planning high up in a car company once that part of the problem is that people, It used to be that to get a coop was the only way you could get kind of a sporty feeling car. Now you can buy any crossover and have about the same level of performance that all those coupes used to have without sacrificing anything. I think Mercedes-Benz was the one who really changed that with the CLS. It proved that you could have coop-like styling, which was more beautiful, but you could have four doors.

And then W came out with the X-6 and may give you a coof at an SUV. Yeah. Boom! I just think the market shifted for whatever reason. Maybe it'll shift back someday, but it's probably... I don't think there's going to be a huge... specifically huge market just because these cars were discontinued. I think that the special ones will have value, but not because they went out of production. The market shifts all the time. You think the Hupmobile,

big car. Then we got the IZeta and then, you know, the big American boats and they went, but it's just like, there's always this like, I do think that the shift to SUVs is permanent in the sense that it's not like a simple market shift. It's someday that too will be disrupted, but we're talking about like a generation. Generation. Yeah, absolutely. Not laxually permanent, but like NIRS makes no difference. in terms of what the automakers are doing and what happens to the used values of this. Next question, this one's deeply from Filippo, for Filippo, from J.N. Moen. What are your thoughts on the Fiat 500E zero down, zero dollars a month lease? So it was announced, you want to tell the story?

Yeah, sure. You know it. In Colorado, because Colorado has some additional state incentives, you can lease a 500E for $0. And literally all you're paying is tax because there is tax on the lease, and that is literally all you're paying. and it seems like a great deal. Explain this to me. I didn't understand it at the time. I just did.

Why are you paying tax if your payment is zero? The way that tax on a lease is assessed is not based on your actual payment amounts based on the value of the car that's that number of times across. Regardless, so Colorado has this, there's a dealer in Colorado, not the whole state, not the Fiat. No, but there's a dealer that's advertising a zero down, zero dollars a month lease on a Fiat 500.

They're effectively that, plus taxes. Free car. Yeah, free. car and someone's asking what is our thought do it if you have the Colorado's tax incentives have meant that there are weird cases because the federal taxes of the supply and the yeah he's leasing a Nissan leave for what is it 39 I know and then he texting the other day and said should I do the 500 e and I said Joe just keep the leaf like come on Colorado has all these incentives to get people to go EV the person saying this that I just picked one up and I'm incredible surprised how fun this is

you know I got to say the Fiat 500E is not been well received that is not selling well I had one is a press car. If you're like, here's the case for it. You're an old lady who's like kids are gone. You have a little dog. You drive to the store. It's a cute little fun car. It's a good free. It's a good car that's not worth the $40,000 that it costs. Right. But it is worth $0.00. It's worth it. If we lived in Colorado at the moment, my driveway would have a leaf EV and a fee 500 EV and maybe whatever other ones you can get for $20.00. You agree at this number. It's like when the press car company texted me the other day or email me and say, hey, we've got a key. a K-4 for you want it.

I just say yes to all of them. You would just do this, right? Yeah, but that has sealed out. Why not? Even if you don't need it, it's like, it's free. So, you know, even if we need it just to like drive up the street when it's snowing one day, they get to get. Right.

Like you said, it's some, like you said a couple weeks ago, at some point. Yeah. Carous value becomes so low, it becomes attractive. Turns out it's free. For some cars, it's free. I do. I was, I thought, I think differently than a lot of the masses do about the Fiat 500. I actually kind of thought.

So it's overpriced. It's just... What Christmas song does it play when you do? Jingle bells when you turn around. Right. So now is the season to go by or at least this... That is so true. Nice.

Well said. Thank you. Okay. Next question from M. Delatori. How did your relationship with Farah start? I watched your smoking tire podcast episode this week. And then he says, I don't like Farah, but how do you like it? Well, all right.

Thera... Yeah. Is like a New York guy. Yeah. And so he's very... abrupt with his opinions, like New York people are. Like, if you go to New York,

people have no problem, like, just kind of yelling on the street of people they just met, like getting into arguments. Like, it's, like, common how people, that's true in Long Island, it's true in North Jersey, it's true in that whole area.

Connecticut is more genteel. A little bit. A lot. But, and so you just kind of have to go in with that knowledge. And also, I think that the simple truth is that, like, there's only 20 of us who do this, right?

Like YouTube car content creating. And we all share like a very significant bond. And I think that no matter how a person, I like Farrah personally very much, I think he's great. But even if he wasn't, like you sit with some of these people, some of the other YouTube content car creators,

I don't like as much. You still, like, you have so much in common that like you're always going to want to chat with them and be like friendly with them and have a lot to discuss with them. How did the relationship start? Here's the story. You're going to hear the story? Please.

First time I ever met Matt Farrow. summer of 2013. Wow. 12 years. I was driving across the country in my Cadillac CTSV wagon. And we happened to be at the Peterson Museum for some event. And then afterwards, Farah was hosting all the Jolopnik writers for a podcast at his house, which at the time was near the airport.

And I went there to the event and then the house podcast thing. and I was on with all the other Jolopnik guys. I did like occasional guest columns on Jolopnik, but they were pretty popular. And so I was there with, I don't remember who Travis Oculski was one of them. I don't remember the other guys who were there. But I bet the episode is still around.

You can go see it. That was the first time I met him. It was 11 years ago. And at the time, Thera, by the way, was always tremendously nice to me when I was starting out. He recognized early that I was a good writer, which was like a gifted, funny writer. He would comment very positive things on my article,

which is really nice because young people starting out to hear from a guy like Matt, hey, this is cool. That's a big deal. And so then I went on the pod and he was like very nice on the pod, like making sure to include me even though I was in this room of guys who had done this before I was really anxious. And that's how my relationship with Farah started. And over the years, my stature in this business has grown, but like I've always had huge respect for Farah for treating me that way at the beginning. And he's always been really great to me. Even when, you know, my started creating more YouTube videos and more we have our own podcast on like he could be like this jerk's doing my stuff but he's always been just like there's room for everybody come on in

and that's always been great yeah I'm fair as the personally I've always watched him since like grudge four 19 days with the mutton chops and everything and it's like him evolve as a person and as a presenter over time and his right he's just a wonderful writer he's a good writer every time I go there I am hit by the fact that he is like more and more emotionally mature sometimes in ways that I wish that I was. He's older than me, and I think he's seen more stuff than me, but he comes to conclusions like two years before

me. Oh, wow. Like, I remember with Westside, Clark to Carstores, so why'd you call it West Side? You can't expand all over the world. He goes, I don't have to expand all over the world. I'm just happy with a couple locations that make money. And now that's how I feel. Yeah. But like, at the time, I was in my, I want to expand all over the world phase. And that's the kind of

thing that he comes up with. And this podcast originally was a live show that we did with Cars and Bids. He was the very first person. First guest. We love Matt. Yeah. I just have such admiration for him, too. He is also, I do admire someone who says stuff as openly, honestly, and abruptly as he does.

Absolutely. It's refreshing, honestly. It really is. And I think that turns people off. Right. I actually share a lot of his opinions. Maybe that's why I like him so much. But the one takes.

That format also. The one take format was brilliant. But yeah, he ends up too. People also don't love because he gets political. And we don't ever. No. I mean, Felipe sometimes. I know where Felipe was on January 6th.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know what he was doing? He was calling the FBI naming names. He's with Emily's dad. He was crying about how Bernie Sanders didn't make it. I don't know. Anyway, the point is love Matt.

I actually really do love Matt. I think he's really great. And I think the people who don't love him, I think that the harshness of his personality can sometimes get to people. I think the politics gets to people. I think generally, though, he's a really good, really good guy. The Tires are probably the podcast that I listen to most consistently. And it's a really excellent song, NPR podcast.

But that's interesting. Next question from BW. Smith, the NPR podcast. See, I told you. He's cried about Bernie Sanders. Wait, wait, don't tell me it's a great program. B.W. Smith says, If you could resurrect a dead car brand and run it yourself, what would it be and what would the lineup consist of? Felipe, tell us about Saab.

I would restart the car company, Autobianchi, which was an Italian car brand. that made two atrocious cars and I would recreate those cars. No, I don't know. I got to think more about this. Hey, Kenan, I got one for you. The A112, please. I got one for you.

The A112. Yeah. I would resurrect BMWL. Nice. My body. And then pull up the Atta Bianchi Y10, please. This is just, we're really in the weeds on a Italian. The Y10 was for sale for a long time.

I had a friend whose mom owned. God, I hope we can't hear it all this. There's such deeply mediocre outmobiles. Small city cars is what I would actually want to create. I want to create very practical, efficient, affordable, safe small city cars. I'll tell you. I bring it back. Yep.

All right. Duzenberg. Yeah. I think, no, something like that would be cool. Duesenberg. I want to make little city cars. I do. The people take a Duzer about run your city cars off the road.

I want a better version of a Fiat. Like what the Fia Panda could have become. Actually, to think about Duesenberg as an EV brand with, like, big, opulent luxury sedans, it would be pretty cool. Congratulations. Welcome to Rolls Royce Bentley, the new Jaguar or many other brands. Yeah, but he's going to do it different, man. He's going to have big old chrome.

Right. It won't be woke like Jaguars. Woke, go woke, go broke. Dusenberg ain't go be woke. No, those Titans industry. You're going to still make advertisements aimed only at men like they used to do back in the day. Remember, what was the car company's slogan was asked the man who owns one? It's like Hudson.

Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Packard or something. Unbelievable. It was Packard. But it was literally ask the man who owns one. Duesenberg would be cool to resurrect. A small city car company would be very Philippian to resurrect. I don't really know. I think the dead ones deserve to die.

I always felt Pontiac could have done better if it had been run better and had its own budget, but it never would. And GM doesn't need more brands. Plymouth was a disaster and never needed to be where it was. I would actually prefer to kill a bunch of brands. What about AMC? AMC? Yeah. Well, AMC wasn't a brand.

It was an automaker. Jeep's AMC. All that trickled down, man. Reno. Reno was there. Reno was still there. Yeah, but AMC and Renault did some stuff. In Wisconsin.

Your hometown. That's right. Wisconsin is that a state of Mississippi. No, I'm kidding. I know that. Nobody else in California does. That is so accurate. Which is that?

Is that the same as Iowa? My friend Kevin, who is from here once asked of Idaho and Ohio, we're next to one another. It's like, well, they are, except for the states in between. If the coastal elites have trouble with the fact that Idaho, Iowa, and Ohio all exist. Now, as someone who's obviously been to all those places, spent time in all those places, they're so vastly different that it's hard. It's like it's different as California and New York. But the elites only know California, New York.

Idaho, Iowa, Ohio, they're like, mind blown. I think it should be mandatory that everybody, like, drives across the country, like, just sees how big it is and sees the differences between all these little states. I think. They're not so little, I guess, but just the states. Can they skip Nebraska? No. That's part of the point. And by the way, Omaha and Lincoln are not bad.

Yeah, Omaha rules. I like Omaha a lot. Have you driven through Nebraska? Well, yeah, a lot of it's tough. Kansas. And I think even Nebraska's would agree. Okay, next, I don't know how we got on the dead car brand thing. What dead car brand, whatever is?

I don't know. I really truly don't know. I can't think of any that I want to bring back pre-merger AMG. No, I like post-merger AMG. I like how the market is evolved, to be perfectly honest. You think of one. You tell me. Okay, next question from Alec.

Just Alec. Probably got that in Saturn. June of 20. I don't want to bring Saturn back. Composite body panels. I don't want Saturn to come back. They died for a really good reason. Yeah.

The aura. Says that a moroder. That does not need to come back either. I was exploiting Gandini in his low period. Okay, from Alec, what is the corkiest car accessory that is offered by an OEM? Or what are your all-time favorite accessories? Oh, there's so many good ones. He says like the gun safe thing for the sequelae.

I can't think, I don't know. The Aztec had. The Fiat 500L. The Aztec tent. Yeah, Fiat 500L had a coffee maker that fit in a cup holder. And that's pretty good. It had a coffee maker. Pull this up.

Wait, you said the Fiat 500L coffee maker. It may have been. You know what it is the iPod and the 430 scoot? Oh yeah, the second generation iPod touch and the 430 scooter. Oh my God. This is unbelievable. It's a 16 M actually. Yeah, yeah, 16 M.

I'll pull that up in the second foot. Oh, we got to get one of these. I know. We really do. bottle? It has the 500 logo on. I know, it's so cool. Why have I gone on eBay found? Well, for the pressure, for the espresso. Yeah. Why

why have they gone on even found out of these? I know what I'm doing later. That is a really good one. Also, because surely it fits in any 500 cup holder or any cum holder at all. Pull up the 430 scoed iPod. It's a 16m. Yeah, the 16m. I'm sorry. Yes, there was a convert. Yes. Yeah, so if you bought a 16M

back in period, they came with a second generation iPod touch. With Ferrari stuff loaded on it. They changed the background of the prancing horse And it had like Where the market was going They just didn't adapt correctly And you can tell it not an iPhone

Because you have music videos, photos And I think the browser Right that's it They knew people would be used to your iPhones To control in car They just didn't realize That you wouldn't actually stick the thing in the middle And be looking at it while tilting your head

Right Right So many of these I've seen Just delete it all together Which is not a surprise But man I would If I saw I mean you don't see 16 M's often

But I'm looking for that I've had touch every time I see one. The correct answer to this course is the That's like 10. No, the F50 shoes. Oh, the F50 shoes. Yeah. I spend not a zero amount of time on eBay looking for F50 shoes and I would pay real money. They don't real money. They don't have. They must never come up with Todd's. Would you want it to be your size? Yeah. That one has an F50. Oh, there's my actual. Yeah, there's your post of it. So, so they sell a replica. This is on eBay right now and they sell a replica of it. And it has the

Ferrari logo on the top. But if you pull back out to an actual F50 pair doesn't say F50 pair. It doesn't say F50 pair. say F50. They don't just have the Froy logo. The replicas now say have the fraud. That's how you know who's a poser. Posers have the Fri logo. Real adults like Filippo and me. Yep. We got F50 shoes. That we do. Now the F50 shoes, driving shoes are delivered with the new F50s and the F50 actually came with an enormous amount of accessories and an F50 is considered complete when it has all the accessories which basically none of them do. Yeah, which is the soft top, the hard top with the circus box, all the tools that go with it, the tool roll the two roll hoops that attach to. it. The shoes.

There was a bunch of stuff. There's the flashlight that's in the middle of the car. There's, what else? There's a ton of books. There's all sorts of books. Oh, yeah. Yeah, all the, 50s had a ton of stuff. But the shoes are out there with some of the craziest things are a SAMHall. Cover. F50 cover. It doesn't say, they don't say what it is. They don't say what it is. Just the big horse on the front, little horse on the back. That's all. Yeah. Anyway, it's got to have all that stuff. Anyway, very cool.

By the way, I don't think I would ever be able to find my size. My presumption is they were all kind of smaller. I have 14 size shoes. I would assume. How many original owners do you think just kept them? Or just didn't even care. Never knew. Right. Okay. Next question from Lenga, DMD. When is Felipe actually going to buy a car? I will give you 30 seconds to answer this. Ready? Go. Steady. Go. The real answer is that the next time I actually really need a car, I will buy one. So what have you been doing to us all this time? I don't need one. It's been to where right? He's moved on. He's not even going to. He's back to his 500 apart. He doesn't like the fact that we tease him about this.

No, I don't mind. I think it's very, very acceptable. given my behavior. My behavior has begun the teasing. That is what it is. Wow. Okay. That was easy. Okay.

Here's another question from M. Delatory. This is a good one. Hello, gang. If you had the chance to drive any race car on any track, what would you pick? Predictions. Well, there are predictions, but let's just answer the question.

No, I want to know. Any race car. I got nothing. Any race car on any track. Any race car on any track. I mean, I don't know how to drive. This is presuming I have the driving skills I currently have. So any race car would just be utter.

really terrible. Well, maybe, I mean, you could probably go old. Yeah, I think. Again, that's also utterly terrifying. Yeah, manual. I think, four wheelbase around. Probably Nikki Lauda's 312 T2, I think, would be the one that he drove in 1976. Sure, sure. I think that would be, I'll pull it up so you can see it.

I think that would probably be the one I'd want to drive. I just think those cars, I just love that car. It's so cool. And, you know, like, to drive one of Senna's cars would be amazing, but they're 800 horsepower. Don't weigh anything. It's like, I don't have the skills to control. This was about 400 horsepower, a little bit more, I think. You think you could drive this thing?

It's manual. I think I could, I'm not going to drive it quickly. But just to, like, experience, like, a Ferrari Formula One car, that would be, like, ten of all. I think I could handle that. Like, the Schumachery area stuff, like, it has to be so precise. The tires have to be able to keep temperature in anything. There's some video on YouTube where some... Richard Hammond drove

yeah, Fernando Alonzo's Renault. And like can't keep it moving. Well, I have been in a modern Formula One car. I've sat in one and tried to press the brake pedal. Even, you just, a mere human can't. Like, it just requires so much pressure to actually the brake pedal. But this was a little bit more conventional. That car was iconic and it's always been one I've been like fascinated.

I'd love to know what it's like. Well, okay. If I'm picking that 70s boring car, My answer is the A McLaren F1 GTR. Ooh. Ooh, could have had it, but you didn't. Yeah, that's true. Fororey F50 Gt1.

Could have had it, but you didn't. Filippa's opening his computer to figure out what a race car is. He's like, I don't know. The F50 GT1 isn't that sequential manual, not actual. No way. You think they developed a sequential manual for the two F50 GT1s that exist. You had your mind. I believe they did because wasn't the 333, which shared the same drive train also.

You're crazy. Pull up the interior. Come on. We're on the engine here. Flipos is just doing the way to work. No. Are you right? No.

Yeah, that's a crash box. A crash box? No one knows what that means. I'm pretty confident that is. Sean, what's the answer to this? He doesn't know. He's clueless. Yeah, I'm pretty confident.

That doesn't change my answer. Imagine screaming around on a F1GT1. That would be cool. F1GTR is a good call. F1GTR. But I, you know, yeah. Say yours says F1 and my knee is an F1 car. That's the difference there.

Yeah, but I won La Ma. This won a world championship in 1977, but it won... I won La Ma' the whole thing. Ueno Clinic. Ueno Clinic. What's your... All right, 10 to 15 years ago, there was a revival of SpecS Series racing. Oh my God.

Honda sold a Honda Fit for those spec engines. Oh, my God. There was a Mons that's two. That was the same thing. And, you know, choose the track of your choice. Monza Spa. I don't know. something of that and bring

a beast bag Honda fit. Here's what the guy says. Kenan, here's what the guy says. Kenan, easy. Look at that. Look at that. Ken, what was your track? Oh, I would pick, uh, for that car.

I mean, well, Spall would probably be. I mean, spa is just so fast. Like, that's my favorite race track. Not on the fit. It's not. Probably Spall. We'll say spa. Okay.

This is the guy's prediction. Kenon, Ferrari F1 car at Monica or Monza. The Italian thing. Monica would be cool. No, Monica's way too technical. I'd be so afraid. Doug, a little harder, G.40 around Daytona or an F1GChart Lamont. I picked up from GTJR to Mont, and I actually didn't see that he wrote that.

And listen to this. Felipe, not sure if he can name a race car. Indeed, he cannot. 500 A bar spec size. Well done. That is incredible. I just want to just drive home the point. Okay.

There's my car. Here's Doug's car. There's Felipe. Yeah. And doesn't that just. say everything about us. I support all of this. Next question from Mighty Must.

Hey guys, if you could be the CEO of an automaker, which one would it be? And what would you change? Boy, Porsche, because it'd be easy. Would it? Yeah. Yeah, Taekon's doing well.

But all the other automakers are in really bad shape. You wouldn't want to choose an automaker that is so entrenched in its ways that you can't change anything. Or you can't make it better. Like Nissan. for example. Or even like Toyota Honda, Honda. They're interesting, but they have such a culture around them in a way that they work

that I don't think it's interesting. You want something that you can actually have an impact over. Well, yeah, the entrenchment thing is one thing. It's like it would be great to be CEO of Ferrari and make them develop a manual transmission car, but they're so entrenched there's no way that they would do that. I don't think. They haven't yet. Cool.

I agree and I thought about that. But like, they're also doing well. Other stuff, CEO does more than just make Ferrari, make a video. Other stuff would not be tremendously exciting, I think, running for it. Maybe it would. Maybe to be running Ferrari. I think running, yeah, the prestige of that brand. You get to oversee the F1 team in Class K and you get to do all this stuff.

I mean, and you could like, that would be an initiative. I'd build that out more in support for the older cars. And then for the newer stuff, you know, continue to develop stuff. And then you got the racing. I mean, that would be, I mean, and Ferrari is my thing. But I'm not Italian, so like, that'll never happen, obviously. Yeah, it would be hard to have a CEO named Kenner Wilson. I know. I mean, hey, for our North America, John Elkin, my man.

Yeah, but he's in North America. That's the point. I know, exactly. I would be relegated to the U.S. I don't know. I think running a car company would be really hard, especially right now. I think there's crazy political stuff. There's crazy. Hard propulsion and it's fun if it's not hard. It would be fun for a lot of people, maybe perhaps for you. I don't think it would be fun in my life situation. Joy, aha.

I don't get joy from that grind. I think there would be legitimate joy from a manufacturer that is growing in someone. way but struggling in others, which is maybe every manufacturer, but like somebody like lucid where they have great engineering, great product, but have not broken through. I think there's something fun there. I think even a manufacturer like Hyundai or Kia, where

they have great, great momentum and it's a question of like, how do you maintain that? I think that's interesting. That would, yeah, it'd be fun to be a winner in other words. No, but... Be fun to run a winner. Ferrari Porsche. Yeah, which horse could you have as a secretariat?

No, but with challenge, yeah? With like some ability to be an ability to actually impact direction. I agree. I think it would be cool and I think a lot of the company, it would be cool to just sit in that seat for a while and see all the stuff that goes on. It would be hard. Yeah. It'd be really hard. Those people who run that thing, those people who run those companies kind of make it look easy in the sense that their PR teams put them in situations where they're like shaking hands with school children or Detroit. Setting a top speed record. Or setting a top speed record and it ain't easy.

Okay. Next question. From Canadadale, 1974. This is a great question that I'm glad somebody asking about it all the time. honest, do you think that since acquiring your career of GT that your popularity has diminished somewhat, years ago, you had appealing virtue to be very relatable. Yes. So let me tell you a story. When I bought the career of GT, I put up the video about buying the courage of tea, and that video was beloved. Absolutely beloved. I got was getting messages and emails from people who I had no idea to even watch the channel who are very high profile. I can't believe this. This is congratulations, you know. And the day that was all happening, it was hitting me like, this is going to go exactly the

direction. Like, I could tell this is, this is going to swing the exact other way. And it did. And I think what happens is that everybody loves you on your way up, you know? And when you actually get there, they've been cheering for you the whole time. And then it's like, now you're the rich guy who has, people get a little pissed, honestly, that like you've actually achieved what you set out to do. And I think there's some anger that, hey, you had a business. Like, that you were, just a guy reviewing cars. Well, actually, it's always been a business. I don't know if you were paying attention.

Interesting. And I have found that. And to be honest, I knew it. But I wasn't not going to get the car. And I wasn't not going to sell the business. And I wasn't not going to start the business. And I actually think that that is one of the things that has kept some of my fellow creators from trying to expand even more into more businesses and into more, just a better

financial situation because they know that their audience will turn on them. Yep. And I wouldn't say. say my audience turned on me, but there's a large portion of people now who just are like, any time, anytime I make any opinion comment on YouTube, on any one of these shorts go up, the comments always are, Doug is out of touch now. And it's like, sometimes it's insane. I got one the other day. One guy criticized me for not liking the T50 because I'm rich now and out of touch. And it's like, what? You kind of have to meet it. Wait a minute. It doesn't matter what the

opinion is. But that has definitely happened. And, and I, and I, don't really blame people. People like the underdog. People like, people like the story of Doug in his shorts, reviewing cars up against motor trend, which was how it was when I started. And when it becomes Doug achieved the dream and got the career GTT, I always assumed that the people would be there and be like, we were here with you on this journey. We were happy for you. But instead, it sort of started to become like you are. And the funny thing is, I haven't changed. Like, I'm still wearing the shorts. I still poke around the cars, do the same thing. The videos are largely the the same pre and post.

Like, I think most people wouldn't be able to tell any difference. But people know now. And so regardless of how I behave, there will always be an attribution to me. Like, he is this, this thing. He is rich. He is success. You know, and then all these ways to try to be like, well, he only did it because he had whatever they want to, whatever they want to make up.

And. So do you think that, I mean, you couldn't have, but there's something to like achieving success and piecing out. And I tell you this, the last year has made me realize and understand why some of these rich people kind of stick together. Like, you get into a situation where you're in this thing and it's like, I did this, I achieved this. This is amazing and I want to celebrate with my tribe. And the tribe is like not there with you and angry about it. And so who do you turn to?

It's like I talk to Farah, right? I talk to other people who are like in this small community. And you start to realize why like these communities start to abandon. together. Here's why you don't ever see Brad Pitt on the streets, right? Because people on the streets, oh, they freak, whatever, whereas he can talk to George Clooney, they text, you know, they're all good. It's just, it's kind of an interesting situation. I've never wanted to just bail. I still love doing it. And honestly, I think the question is predicated on the fact that a lot of people watch all these videos frequently. I think most of my audience is still people who are just showing up from YouTube algorithm

and I don't care that much that it's me. But I do think that a lot of the long-term audience doesn't view me as relatable anymore, even though I'm the same dude and I still buy cheap shorts, you know? Yeah. And occasionally lightweight long pants. Yeah. They're still cheap. Every shirt you see more.

I think Eni went through the same thing because Eni famously just pieced out from like stop performing, just disparate their castle on island. I still love it. I still love doing it. Yeah. I love making the videos. And I really think that 99% of my audience, they don't care about it. of this. They don't care about the success. They don't care about the CRRGT. They want to watch a

video on a Valkyrie. And that's going to show them how all the buttons work. And it's the people who are watching every video who are like, you know, Doug's this now, Doug's that. I'm not making videos for those people anymore. I'm making videos for people who want good car content, not to get into the drama of YouTube. Yeah. Next question from Arctic. It's a good question. And by the way, and it's something I think about a lot and something I've had to think about a lot in private. So it's interesting to be able to talk about it. Next question from Articus 88. When driving your Kuntash, Couraginti, or 4GT, how do you avoid large crowds when pumping gas, even when you're getting in and out of the car? Do you just try to be quick? I assume you get recognized all the

time now. You get tired of answering the same dreaded questions about cars. How often do you get to go on comfortable private joy rides? Few questions that here are, how often I get stopped by when pumping gas? Actually, not all that frequently. And almost every time I get stopped on pumping gas, it's by a random. Not someone who knows me. It's by like a, what is this car kind of thing? Courageancy never, you know, never, ever, ever. No, it's a boxer. Kuntash virtually every time someone comes up to me. My dad had a career. And I do try to be quick.

I'm not tired, though, of answering the same questions. People come up to me all the time. They generally do ask me the same basic stuff. I want to picture, you know, but it's still fun. I still enjoy it. But I do get to go on comfortable private joy rides often by myself. People don't freak out on the freeway that much when I'm in the KyrgyT, which is the car that I mainly take on, like, fun drives.

The Kuntash is the freak out car, but I usually drive that around when I know that I'm prepared to have. Some people freak out. Yep. Okay, two more questions. Two more questions. Next one from Dita. What is the best winter beater, in your opinion? For me, it's any old Volvo.

Can't go wrong with a car made to conquer the wilds of Sweden. In Sweden, the opinion is that it's an old Volvo, but in America, that opinion is not commonly shared. No, it's just like that it's safe is more of the Volvo, big safe. Can I be honest? I think the answer is so dependent on, I think in true winter beater fashion is the car that you can buy, that fall for use that winter and spring and then you get rid of that.

If you want like a true interview this is whatever you can find that is at least rusty is your best answer. The point of a winter beater is not to have it around for like seven seasons because then it was too nice.

If it was going to last seven seasons it was probably not a beater in the first place. And I don't, I think it's just legitimately what like suits your purpose that day? I don't think it's like a good one. I had a winter beater.

It was wonderful. When you moved to California. No. Also, yeah, I was going to say yeah, and I'm three. X-I.

That's right. 330XI. You know what the best? You know what the best winner beaters is? 2001 E-39-525 I and Topaz Blue manual. No, you want out of the release. Sport package. You want a lot.

Sport premium thing. I'll back S-U-S. I was going to say, try some Subaru. It would not be a head gasket or a Subaru. I'll tell you that. I don't think I would do that. We are lucky that we do not have to have winter beaters. However, all three of us lived in climates where there were significant winter beater.

Why can there be snow here? I want a winter beater. Filippa lived in Wisconsin. Why can't there be snow here? Go somewhere else. Filippa lived to Wisconsin, New Hampshire. Ken lived in Northeast Ohio. I grew up in Colorado and lived in Pennsylvania.

We've all lived in the snow. We're all thrilled to be away from it. I'll tell you what. Yeah, I was going to say winter happens everywhere. I'm driving my winter beater now. You know, it's like you can just. It's January. We're driving a winter beater.

I knew a bunch of people in Madison that had legacy wagons with a stick. Yeah, stick legacy. A little bit of ground clearance would have been nice, but a stick turbocharged. Subaru wagon. I like going to Michigan and seeing they all drive like traverses and stuff. I think a good rusty American car is a good traverse. Yeah.

Four-wheel drive. What do you mean? All-wheel drive. It's a car that is disposable. GMT 800. GMT 800. No. Well, yeah.

Tahosa bourbon. Yeah, okay. But you buy one with rust on it. Well, but like not so much rust that it's unsafe. Correct. You do reach a point of rust that it's, correct. Literally.

If I buy one with some host on it already that you don't feel guilty about driving in the the winter. Yeah. You drive it in the winter. Can I be honest, though? Never felt guilty about that regard to the literature. Are you fluid to film the important parts that you don't, the structural stuff you don't want to rust underneath?

Right. You know. You got stuff. Like, you can picture the smell of that stuff. Unless you get cheap. Like, if you can get a cheap traverse or Acadia for like four. Yeah. A rusty traverse by a November.

I will accept this if you named the other two. Traverse Acadia. Can you name the other two? Saturn Outlook and, um, and, uh, what was the other brand? Well, such confidence. Wait, no, no, no, I got it. It was still for sale, by the way. Hang on.

What do you mean it's still for sale? It's been redesigned twice, but it's still for sale. Oh, Buick Enclave. But wait, wasn't there another one also? No, no. Okay. Number four. An enclave, by the way, a rusty enclave that you buy at Thanksgiving.

Heated seats. Heated seats. Good point. Last question. And this is a good one. well you want to do that yellow one let's do two more last question and then one last question after that okay uh how long until this is a great idea how long until mercedes comes out with a my my box line for their cars you know how they have amg line and it's like a dumb down versus this is brilliant

oh this is this guy's giving let's go back to the CEO question i want to be the CEO mercedes been so i can implement this like hey if you we'll give you my box suspension or you 220 my bach line this is a great idea doesn't it cheap in the mile yes then again it works for amg yeah you're right AMG, they tripped M, and it was brilliant. They saw a lot more of those now as a result of it. This is a brilliant idea. This is not a bad idea, which is really frustrating. Really frustrating.

Imagine being like, oh, I got Mibok line seats or Mibok line suspension. Mercedes calls it DeZio or Manufactuer. No one knows what that is. Well, it doesn't mean different things. My friend, Nick, has an S63, and he had a Mibok 57 before that. And his S63, because it has all the Mibok-like stuff, they're climbing seats, the picnic tables, all the Mibok stuff, but it doesn't say Mibok anyway. But if it's a discreet thing,

described first-gen CRV has as well. You're missing many points. Many points. We're climbing seats, cooking table. All right, I'm done. But yeah,

then the Mercedes loves long names for cars. Then you could have the Mercedes S-550, you know, whatever, AMG line. Well, with my box on. You could, but I think his point is they could just say, instead of like comfort suspension, they could say my box suspension.

or instead of the manufacturer seats or whatever it is, they get MyBox seats, suddenly you got people paying money. Pretty good chance this catches on. This is not a bad idea. Does it turn out that he actually is the CEO of? His name is Silver 3 Shadow and he's brilliant. Speaking of Mybach, last question, last question from Julian G.R.C.

Uffini or maybe G.R. Cuffini, pull up the thing. I saw a V-223. I saw Mercedes-Benz S-class diesel that had been converted into a shooting break in Italy, and I have no clue who made it and why. Do you like it? Would you buy one of these if they made more than a customer? Look at this thing. Pull up the back picture.

Look at that. This guy, he's in Italy. That is so cool. He's on the Mediterranean, driving around in a S-class. This is an S-class sedan. What? Converted into a way.

It doesn't look long enough. It's definitely an S-class. Look at the tails. Yeah. It's an S-class, but it's an S-class. Go back to the front picture. It's an S. That's clearly an S-class in the front.

It's not long enough. Something about this picture is rock. Well, because it has a CLA, It has a CLA shooting break. It does. That's where they got it from, I bet. I do not like it. Why not?

I like the idea of an S-class wagon or shooting break. Go back to the rear-throat. I would give anything for them to make an S-class wagon. I've had so many E-wagons. I will say. I want the comfort of an S-class so badly, but I just, I can't. There was news last week that Shaq had West Coast ex-X-X-exotics make, or customs, whatever, they're called, make a lucid-air, two-door. Go to them and say, hey.

It's just, I want Mercedes-Benz to do it. I love my E-Class wagons. I've had like five E-class wagons. I love it, but the S-class is such a more comfortable car. How much more comfortable can it be? Watch. An S-class is so... But the wagon would take away from that a little bit.

A little bit. More noise. Yes, it would. But I want a more practical S-class so bad. There are no big, big wagons anymore. There have always been conversions. People have converted S-classes into wagons going back years and years. To be more rectangular.

Like, I don't want a shoe-work. I want a wagon. But they took the back either from a CLS or a CLA. They, like, got it from. Yeah, I think that's where it came from. I wonder what company did this. Yeah. It looks decent, but I mean, these pictures aren't.

It looks good. It looks good, and it looks subtle, and it's a nice conversion. Look at that, the Mediterranean. But a Fiatico to the west. Dude, if you were walking on the street, no one would ever know that this was something that was completely gone up custom for this dude. I wonder what the interior looks like. I can't see much of it, but it looks very esclossy. That is cool as hell.

No, it's absolutely nice. Sleep, it doesn't know. No, it is. I know it's a mess with a nice. It looks weird. It's pretty clear. Something about it looks weird. Yeah, the fact that it has a hatchback on it.

Why do we let him? I don't know. No, like it doesn't like, I know, whatever. It's fine. I think it's more the camera and the weird angle. Yeah, the angles are, to be honest. Oh, and the fact that it has a hatchback on it. Oh, right.

I forgot what it is. Remember the velcetees? Of course, around the Velcetes. It doesn't look like that at all, which is a thing, which is a good thing. It's a good thing. This is not a beautiful automobile. The Velcetees. All right.

I, yeah, no. We all love it. We all want it. I would give anything for it. Philippa wouldn't like it or would like it. He's not sure, but he'll have a decision after he reviews the facts and talks to a few people and gets some committee. Takes it to the committee, gets input. They'll be a vote with the P&L impact.

That's what we'll see. Right, right, right, right. Thank you for watching our special Christmas podcast. We'll be back to you next week with a normal non-Christmas podcast. We're not going to talk about Christmas. We're not going to talk about New Year's. We're going to talk about Snowmen. It's in the past.

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