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Episode Date: June 21, 2024

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Hello and welcome to this car pod. I'm Kenan. I'm Philippo. And today we have a car pod. All right. Let's get right into the news. What do we got? Oh, man.

All right. This is the Aspark Owl. If you're listening, you can't see, we're talking about the Aspark Owl. And I know what you're thinking. What is that? We don't know. The Asperk Owl is an office joke here at the Cars and Bid's office. We think it's, we think it maybe exists.

It may not. but one of them set the all-time speed record for an electric car 272.6 miles an hour. Wow. I know what you're thinking. Which one? Why, that was the Aspark Owl SP 600. Oh, there's more than, there's more version from that. Well, okay.

So, interesting question. What does SP 600 stand for? I'm quizzing you. Any idea? Well, it's not the horsepower. Shirley to go that fast, it has way more in its electric cars. It's not that. It's not the speed in kilometers.

The answer is, it's discussed nowhere on the website, and I cannot figure it out. What is the difference between a regular Aspark Owl and the SP 600? No idea. Where did they get SP? Where did they get 600? We don't know. I know. Sports prototype. Shelby Durango.

Oh. They saw the SP 360. They were going to really take it. What did that mean also? That was, it was supercharged? Sp. Sp. That's as good as the eye identification.

Eye indentification. So anyway, the Aspark Owl, SP 600 did 277 miles an hour. Unfortunately, it is not a real car, although this one has owl eyes. I know. The owl eyes are great. A look. Yeah. And it's fast, apparently.

And the reason it's an office joke here is because it's vaporware and it's called the Aspark owl. I mean, come on. So, can we talk with Asperk Al for a second? Yeah. Aspark is a company run by like a Japanese billionaire or something. Thank you for bringing that up. It is a company purportedly.

Can we use the internet on Kenan's device? Kenan, go to the Asperk website, if you will. How do you find it? You Google Aspark Owl SP 600. What does it mean? Which I did. So just type an Aspark owl. That's all you need.

Hit enter. Now go to Aspart company.com. Expark company.com sounds legitimate. Yeah. Keep going. 016 and 1.2. Keep going. This is great.

Wow, the fonts they've chosen. Oh, yeah, it's a very high quality... Oh, the number zero one debuted in 2024 May. May of 24. There we are. Keep going, keep going. I found some explanation of things that was not really in reasonable English. But if you start clicking on stuff around this website, click on owl. Click on owl. Not about us?

Yeah, I don't know. You'll find that none of it makes any sense. Yeah, this is it. As if an owl gliding on silent wings, capable of striking its prey in the blink of an eye. Enter a new world. That's comma. Enter a new world of explosive acceleration. Hush speed, blending with clonches, new heights

of exhilaration. That's a sentence, apparently. Well, of en-garde. Leave the world behind to experience the beauty of speed. If you continue scrolling, there's just stuff like that. Scroll back up. Electrified in every way. Every way is one word.

Every way. Also, Kenon, you'll especially like this. Keep going down as far as photos. This is one photo they chose. And no, this photo is not cut off because of Kennan's monitor. This is the picture that is on the website. So, no, I'm sure this is a real car, and I'm sure it set the record. And the SP-600 is obviously a very high-performance version of it. Special performance 600. Wow. Well, bespoke battery system. Comfort mode to balance speed with comfort. High-speed mode to bear the owl. Anyway, as you can see, the S-Bark Gal, this is a very important

news story and a very high quality automobile. Aspark Owl, coming to your local neighborhood Aspark dealer. Experience the thrill of taming this monster, bend it to your will, exclamation mark. And a comma there. And a comma for some reason. Wow. Outstanding use. The comma's not the only problem with that sense.

Outstanding use of chat GPT to build content for a website. Coming to your local Aspark dealership. But it is a machine that can go 270, 2.6 months an hour. But only the SP 600. Right. You've got to get the SP 600. Who does? Who does?

And I know you want that, but unfortunately you can't have it because it doesn't exist. Okay. And I know you're thinking it exists, but it doesn't. That one has owl eyes. Okay. Give us another here. All right, smart. The people that made the Smart 4-2 and the Smart 4-4 for that matter.

Now have, they already have some like crossovers now. Really? Yeah. The Smart number one, which yes, is pound one. Yeah, in Europe and China. Europe and China and so on the different markets, I believe. They have released the number five, or they've revealed the number five. What happened to the two through four?

They've released the number five, which has 637 horsepower, and guess how large it is? This has 637 horsepower. This is a smart car. That is the size of a... Well, it looks like a Kia Soul type thing. No, it's a second model Y. Model Y probably has about that much power. Yeah, probably.

But like... So this is smart. Smart that started out as a project to build a car that fits with Y is in a parking space. Right. It's the short city car meant for kind of dense areas. Now has a model Y size 637 horse power. So, Lippo, automakers evolve. Why use the smart name at all?

Because smart sounds electrici. It does actually. Electrici. Plus, it has brand cachet. Don't forget the 4-4 was a major seller for a seven-month period in 2005. Apparently, this car specifically is a collaboration between Gile, the Chinese company, and Mercedes-Benz. Wow, and it has knobby tires. Yeah, great for all that power, you know, really need those knobby tires.

You get Gilean Mercedes-Benz together, and you end up with a car that has lighted windshield brush-away guards. I know, is that quite something. Yeah. Huh. Well, that's crazy. That's a smart brand. This is not coming to the U.S. That's not going to the U.S.

Why not? Because smart wouldn't need to first launch here again. What do you mean? They don't exist anymore? They haven't existed since probably, what, 2012? They exist in our hearts. Yes. All their cars are dumb.

They are smart. They're smart. They've sold two cars in the U.S. The smart, the smart electric drive. And the third generation smart. That little roadster thing is in Mexico. Okay. And the rest of the world.

All right. Give us another new story. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Our favorite topic. Fisker. What happened? They have filed for bankruptcy.

Why did it take them so long? That's a good question. What happened there? I mean, they haven't been selling oceans, obviously. They just bring out of money. They have somewhere between what they claim to be $500 million and a billion dollars worth of assets. Yeah. Presumably, you know, manufacturing contracts, some parts, whatever.

So they got $750 million, let's say. Yeah. How much in debt? I couldn't find the exact number in any news stories. Some number, some few hundred million in liabilities is what they said. A few hundred millions. It sounds like their asset, they got more assets than liabilities. They're all good.

Yeah, that's how... Keep going. Let's keep making cars. What I don't understand is how they have so much assets since they don't have a factory or dealerships. Is their assets, do they consider their brand name to be an asset? Because I don't. And neither does anybody else. Yeah, I bet they do. And I bet they have a bunch of parts ordered and technology that they consider valuable.

Are those assets? They file a car nobody wants? Can consumers just start buying those to keep their cars on the road? No, apparently it's been quite a problem for Fisker. You know what's funny? I stopped seeing them. You know, when these cars run... sale for a while.

Really? Because I would see them around and they're like, now I don't. It's like somehow the company went out and people were like, all right, and they got rid of the car. They never leased them. They never figured out how to do a lease. They never did a lease.

The only ones driving around were bought. Yeah, I don't look so dumb with my maintenance schedule on my M5 now. These people are people. They don't have that problem because they can't get it maintained. Well, no, but they lost. No, but the money I put into my car. He put $58 grand in his car over 10 years. They put $58 grand in the car over like a long weekend.

Yep. That sucks. Their goal is as part of this Chapter 11 bankruptcy is to restructure enough such that they can be bought by somebody else. No one's going to just preemptive of that. What do you buy it? You're buying a company that contracts a factory and has no dealership. You're buying some car designs, I guess. I don't know.

Remember the pair? I do. What happened to that? That looked like that smart thing. Alaska? Is that what the other one was? Yeah. Yeah.

Unfortunately, Ocean is dead. I hope that everybody heated our advice and did not buy one even when they were 25 grand. Which I was tempted by. Because now there were 13 grand. It was wild to watch a car company coming back and disappear that fast. It hasn't happened in a while. With the time in the early-ish part of the 20th century,

when car companies would launch, would sell some cars and then be able to be able to do. Yeah, right. But when it was the last time of a brand just, like Durier and Hispano, Suiza. It feels like the 1920s where they're just coming and disappearing quickly. Because it doesn't take much to get an electric car certified. You don't have to do any.

EPA stuff, really. And so it's all crash. And that, a lot of that is self-certification. Yeah, it crashes. That's what Heinrich told everybody. I'll tell you, it crashes all right. Tesla showed that it can work. Right down to two cents a share.

There it is. Tesla showed that you can start and you come in out of nothing. Yeah. They're one of the only ones, right? Tesla, Fisker, Lucid. Everybody else is kind of a spin-off of another manufacturer. Rivian. Do you know about Rivian?

They make the trucks and the ESport utility vehicle. Everybody else is kind of a spin-off of another. The lucid is a spin-off of... The Saudi investment fund. Yeah. And you know, I still hear that it costs $400,000 to build a lucid. Well, they haven't amortized the cost over the full set of cartchair. And you know why that is?

Because they haven't built the full set of cartchair. Because no one's buying them. And you know why that is? Because they're too expensive. So they get this problem where they cost them $400,000 to build a car, and the car is being offered for sale at $150,000, and it's worth $93,000. And in my book, the cost of a $400,000 car selling for $93,000, That's not sustainable.

Wait, can we talk with it? You divide the number of, you don't like to do that. But at the end of the day, how many cars are they going to sell? Generally, I frown on the practice of dividing their total investment by the number of vehicles they've sold so far to get the cost to build. Because it changes over time. I agree generally with that, but for Lucid, it doesn't change that as much over time. So, you know, well, we can do it for Fisker, though.

It's stopped. We know the answer. I want to know. Okay, let's move on from Fisker. We have beaten them enough. Here's some sort of a race car. Speak about something that matters. So Ferrari won the 24 hours of Lamont for the second year consecutive.

Yeah, that really looks like a Ferrari. I see on the street. Well, we don't know what the new supercar is going to look like, to be clear. That's not something. It ain't going to look like this. You know what this looks like the Aspark Owl. It does. Now I want an Asperk Owl, because they're winning Lamma.

Imagine if this car had Owolize. It would be better. This car would be better with Owelize. Instead it says Adler. You know, but, but. Yeah, what is Adler? Who knows? Some sponsorship. A lot of money they paid to have that. Yeah, you give them with it up.

But what's also wild is, so they won Le Mans. They also won the Monaco Grand Prix, which is the first time in history that any manufacturer has done since 1934. Or the second, I guess, first time this century, anybody has done that. But it's a wild, it's cool to see Ferrari winning Le Mans because they didn't race in Lamont for a long time since the 60s. They come back and they've won two years in a row, which is pretty wild. They didn't race since like the 250LM era? That's correct. But not for the sport prototype cars.

They had private entry, like GT Classes. cars, but not sport, you know, purpose-built prototype cars like this. Yeah. But what's important about it is like, Ferrari's always place an emphasis on their racing. Like, that is what they do. Formula One, not been going too well since 2007, haven't won a championship. So what about that? They just decide

to Formula One isn't going well, so let's put the investment into Lamont and win that. I think they wanted to come back and at least win something. Does anyone care about Lamma? Like, is that a thing that, do you think that sells a lot of cars? I don't think it sells a lot of cars necessarily. Not anymore. I think we had a discussion about this that generationally people used to really care a car one at lamont, brand one at lamont, show durability and longevity, which things Ferraris are not known for. No.

But I don't think it does anymore, but I think, like, they need to be associated with racing. That's what they do. And so they can, to win a historic race like this, pretty big deal. That's true. And Monaco Grand Prix, same idea, although, you know, Formula One Championship will be nice. And there are people named, I know one of them, Kenna, it's the only person out. that like buy from brands that are sponsoring their favorite card, right?

You have always used to show fuel. Yeah. He's a big fan of the seatbelt manufacturer. Yeah. And he finds his car through Santander. I don't use HP products, though. Akape. Acape. Acape.

No, it's very impressive. I'm glad as someone who owns a car with the power train from a Lamont prototype car, I'm very happy to see that. Well, good. I'm glad. But nonetheless, I'm, I'm, I was just

it just gives me more pride in the brand I mean there's multiple drivers there are a lot of people like somebody famous no there were no Formula One drivers There's no like personalities that emerge from this So I mean it's wild because sometimes The Formula One teams let their Formula One drivers go in race in La Man and go

And go and race in Formula One which And like Fernando Alonzo is a great example McLaren let him then go to do the Indianapolis 500 I think instead of doing Monaco and But it's such a risk to take your drivers are paid so much money to do a job to have them go risk doing this or riding a bicycle or anything else like it's just such a high risk when i was a kid dion sanders played baseball and football

and one time he played in a playoff baseball game and then flew immediately to a football game and played in the football game he also drove in 92 diablo nice um but really though the i i echo your sentiment about this that doesn't look like yeah like i look it looks just like the car behind it which God knows who made that. Like, it's not, I don't, back in the day that you, the 250 GTO went to LeM, the 250LM, and then they like sold those or very similar cars with the exact same engine, except a different number of pistons. They sold those cars.

Wasn't pistons, it was carburetors, but we'll move on. But, but. I don't want of this big rant about how the 250 GTO doesn't have the same engine as the 250 GT. And I'm like, they're the same. He said the Luso and the GTO of the same engine, which is, but it's the same idea. Okay, all right. Fine.

there we go Ferrari wins Lamont. The car looks like every other race car. It doesn't have the same effect as I used to. We'll see if the, yes. We'll see if the technology trickles down on the road cars. What technology? The giant wing? Yeah, that's already there. No, the power train stuff, longevity. It's the reason why they go racing is that does it does end up in the rokers are one of the few brands that actually does that transaction. I could buy it two nine. And look at this picture. I think to myself, hmm, I wouldn't mind a two nine six. Do you think two nine six or do you think whatever car made by whatever manufacturer? No, you know what I think? I want a, I want a V8 Puro Songway. Oh, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to,

I look at this, they win Lamah. Let me go out and get a V8 Puro-Songway and put it on 24-inch 4Giotos. It's got a tricolor right on the splitter, you know? I know, it is actually kind of cool. The trecoloria and then this actually old-school, like, racing stripe that goes up. That's real. Okay, what's our last news story of the day? Oh, yes.

Okay, so the Audi R-S-G-T-E-Tron has a performance package. I'm sorry, it's the E-T-T-N-O-1-N-N-G-T. No one will get that right. No, it's one of the worst-named cars. Plus, Audi moves the R-S, sometimes it's R-S-S-S-together. They just do whatever they want. It is R.S. E. TronG. Anyway, so they came out of the performance package.

912 brake horsepower. They reduced the weight in the electric motors by 20 pounds each. Did some stuff with the brakes. To be clear, the 912 horsepower, you have to go into a special mode to get it. It's not that all the time. That's like a 10 second boost or something like that? Yeah, so it's like an overboost function and, you know, it does zero to 60 and 2.5 seconds. It's all great.

It's all very impressive. I happen to really love these cars. I think they're some of the most beautiful four-door cars currently in production. I'm just happy that they continue to, do stuff like this because it means the others will continue to appreciate and we'll have them one day. This is the same like power train that's in the new Tycon, right? Like a Tycon GT? Was there a

facelip? You know what I like about this? They enlarge the front end for more airflow. Oh yeah. To get the air to the engine. It's naturally aspirated, I should say. It is. The electric cars are naturally aspirated. This, you thought NA cars were dead? Nope. We're not going down this route. I don't have time to explain to him how wrong you is, but I don't see a turbocharger. I don't see a blower.

No, no, what I really like about this is the fact that it's going to cost $31,000 in approximately nine months. That's exactly right. Yeah, this. What is the sticker do you know? I think it's, I believe it's $120,000? 120,000. 120 sticker, so they're going to be transacting at 78. Pretty quickly.

No, I mean, like today. Right there. Probably, probably a very good car to lease. Yeah. But that is cool. 912 horsepower. It is amazing how many 900 horsepower, 1,000 horsepower cars there are now. They're just so many of them.

You drove one this week. I drove them numerous. Mercedes, I'm gonna, here's a name for you. Mercedes AMG S63E performance. That's what I drove. Now, no one will call it that. It's called the S63. And it has a non-E performance?

No. And it has, we have a general naming structure rule on cars and beds where if a car was only offered in one body style, we don't list a body style. Right. Why are they listing E-performance? It's all E-performance.

You're damn right it is. That's why they say it. E-performance. Anyway, it has that car, which is just an AMJ, it's the only S63 you can get. It has 790 horsepower and a 1,055 horsepower. Or torque, pound feet torque. 250 horsepower less than the new rib and aeron aronath? Well, it's a car.

Also, also, it has pillows. Also, it's only 100 left, but... Has pillows? Yeah. Are they removable? Pretty good. You can go up, go down. Adjustable.

Also, there was another pillow in the trunk. I don't even know what it was for. Did you take it? I should have. Well, as we know, Mercedes-Benz are usually driven by bad guys. When they stuff somebody in it, they've got a pillow for their head. Can I give a quick correction? The Audi E-T-T-performance, or the R-S-E-T-performance, starts at 150.

150? Like he said, 120. Like he said, $70. Like he said, $78. Like he said, $78. Yeah. Any of those are probably correct. It would not impact it in the least.

Okay, let's move on to our talk cars segment. Starting with Kennan. The way I'm dressed. Kenon is dressed. Emily bought him a nice shirt. Yes, a nice linen shirt. I was on vacation in the Caribbean. Kenner went to the Caribbean.

Which I went to St. Martin, Small Island, and the Netherlands, Tantilius, half French, half Dutch, which is great, because I got to see a lot of cars that I don't normally otherwise get to see. So I got to see some, like, I got to see... You see some Dutch cars? I guess, like, you don't get to see French cars ever. Like, you never get to see Pugreux. A lot of Reno's, very few Pujros, I noticed.

But I got to drive. I had a rental car that was a Hval H-6, which of course, I had never heard of. I've never, and it's a Chinese car. I've never driven one before and I was surprised at how it was good Did you show what or how ball all H6?

Absolutely it's not it doesn't look like an aspart oh that's a good thing Yes it's a good thing It's a family rented SUV Does it have a pretty normal looking SUV

Does it have owl eyes Sadly no I don't think that was an optional extra Either This looks like a perfectly fine Yeah And it was Now I have to say

Every time I left it in the sun The interior distinctly smelled Like it was melting Well That was a problem It's hot sun. Kuntash smells like that, not in the sun. And the transmission was awful.

It was really... It's not electric? No, it was gasoline. I thought the Chinese only made electric cars. No, I still make some gas power. In the Caribbean, you're going to want gasoline power cars. It's not a lot of places to plug stuff in. Not a reliable electric network there.

What's the size of the island? I mean, you could probably walk from one side of the other. It was too big for that. I'll tell you that much. I did end up scratching the door on it. But it was a difficult... Kevin. It was a difficult car.

You damaged a high quality of all H-Says? Did you have the gym? I did not have the GT. Did the 5% of the 2.5? Yeah, what? Yes, they did. I disclosed that. You told them?

Yeah. And then you bought that linen shirt in the Caribbean? No, I actually bought it here before I left, but I wore it there. He bought it here. He's like, that'll look good on the pod when I come back from the Caribbean. This is the first time you've driven a family car since you borrowed Doug's wife's 60 years ago. No, I also picked him up from the airport in the, uh, in the, uh, in the sequoia,

which was very large. Did, did the Haval you drove have this great Haval badge? Yes, it did. I'm glad they've committed. a logo. I know. It has so much... The size of a license plate. It's got a hell I felt about it, too. So what, is there anything weird about it?

No, that was the thing. It was incredibly normal. It actually felt pretty thought out. Also, it felt better thought out than the VIN fast in a lot of ways. Stuff was a little bit more conventional than that. Although I did see quite a few VIN fast on the island, too. So it's, it's interesting because I've been going there forever. It used to be all like

Hyundai I-10s was like the car you'd see everywhere. But now it's all these. The Chinese these automakers, and obviously VinFAS, Vietnam, they go into low regulation places first, and the islands don't have any. I mean, you can't make

regulation. Because if they had regulations, the automakers would be like, well, we're not selling our cars there. Peace! So there's none. So they go into like the Latin America and then low regulation, lower income, etc. And then they kind of develop, get successful. And then they come here and they eat Philippo's lunch. Which was what

the South Korean manufacturers did for a long time too. Right. Which, naturally, I don't feel as a need to buy a Haval. No, but you'd be, I bet you. You could have it all. But it'll be here eventually. When you're a pensioner, you'll be driving Havall. Is he going to be an expat in the Caribbean?

An elderly. No, I think that by the time, here's what's going to happen. By the time these Kenan's old, Havall will be like the sturdy, like, Subaru. And he'll be like, got my Havall. Do you want to put money on it? Dude, you think that these boomers who grew up after Pearl Harbor thought they'd be driving around in Toyotas? Some people specifically said they would not. and then ended up doing that, I'm sure.

Or Mercedes-Benz is probably the same thing. But yeah, yeah, no, I get what you're saying. You'd be driving a Havall before you know it. And even if you're not, they will be. That's a Honda-C-RV, except it's going to be cheaper. Yep. Felipe, what do you have for us today? All right.

Last week, my brother-in-law and his girlfriend visited us, and they drove around in my FF100 to Barth Cabrilet. There were many comments about how fast it was. Fast. Well, they must be used to performance cars. But that's the thing. It's not fast. What is zero to 60?

Oh, the 7th. seconds some of that maybe high sixes yeah and yours has a boost leak so probably eight nine seconds um does it it's missing some horses i'll tell you that scorpions in the case of that thing six four nine seconds here's a wild thing filippo confesses to me the other day but that i confess to oh no that the interior lights went out in the 500 they didn't go out i removed the fuse for it because i needed oh yeah the fuse the few needed okay and guess what this has been it's been a year and he never replaced the fuse. I'm like, dude, a fuse.

Like, I could do that. Filippa, if a puddle light goes out on my car, I replace it immediately. And imagine. You don't have any interior lights. Imagine it's night. He opens the door. Nothing.

Nothing. It's like, there could be a pirate in there. So anyway, people drove the car, and they thought that it was fast. They all think that it's fast. And the thing is, one of them drives a new Rav4 hybrid, which I bet is faster. But it's like a feeling of speed.

because it makes a lot of sound and you feel like you're going to topple over. To me, that's the coolest thing about that car. It's the only cool thing about the car. It's the work still. It literally does feel fast, though. The sound, and it's low and it's short, and you like feel like you feel like. And that's the cool thing about it because you don't have to go. Like, Couragey T is not really fun unless you're like going.

But that car, you couldn't have fun, like, around. We're back to the age-old argument, slow core, fast, fast, course, slow. I think that, and I believe that what people really mean by, I like to drive a slow car fast, is what they mean is they want the sensation of speed is what they really want. And that car delivers it. I think it can be the sensation of speed. It can also be that you want to really ring out a car. Yeah.

But I also specifically think that the 500 barth, I'm not even talking about slow car fast. I think the 500 barth specifically delivers the, I'm not that fast, but it feels like it is better than maybe any other car in the world, except some vintage stuff. What was it, Jeremy Clarkson said? I am a Ferrari. promise I am. It's like kind of the attitude that car has. It's just, like it just, I've gotten used to it, right? It's just, I'm driving around in a car. And am I driving aggressively and a little bit like an Italian? Like an Italian? Yeah, of course. It's an Italian car. But I don't think of it

as fast. It also handles. Because I know that I got a floor. It steers and handles quickly. And I think that that quickness also adds to the feeling of speed, even though it's not straight line fast. Like, compared to a RAV4, which is a ponderous car, that car is zippy. Right. It's just slow. And that's great. That's why people like those minis, you know, when they first came out. Like, It's zippy. It's fast. Well, they weren't, right? Same deal. But they were quick.

They were, like, quick to move. One time I had a friend referred to their, um, 2003 Toyota Corolla as a go-kart. And I kind of got it because I'm sure they're used to driving around like a Jeep Cherokee or something. And it is. Damn,

that's a go-card. I don't want to drive. But perception is everything. Perception is everything. That car does percept. It does percept fast, even though it is notably slower than my station wagon. The best thing about it. Yep.

And I do love that I go to that. That in the price point. I've driven his. My friend Stevens was nicer, no offense. But that's how I knew that it was just a little down-upon. He's got the boost leak and he's got no interior lights. Do you have dashboard lights? Yeah.

He also asserted that he would sell the car to me. He didn't tell me the interior lights weren't working. It's a feud, man. His car? Do not buy his car. No, no, I would give Kenan a nice price to fix it for me. I give you a nice price. I give you a very nice price.

Very good. Return to a good situation. My talk car's point for this week I drove my Ford GT 500 miles in the last week Wow That's not bad How many miles you've been driving?

I drove my station wagon a thousand miles That's what he said He said well I drove my station wagon a thousand miles I'm like Okay First off Second it's a Ford GT It's not a lot of people doing that

That's true I'm proud of you That car is so Just Reliable and durable And strong and good and easy And this Jeremy Clarkson thing still persists I posted that and people are like, I thought they were unreliable because Jeremy Clarkson.

That was 20 years ago because of an aftermarket alarm that his insurer made him add because Britain is an antistate. And he had to be, that was the thing that caused the problem. I've had the car now 11,000 miles, eight, six years, zero problems. But my experience is not enough to override the Jeremy Clarkson thing. James May told me. I talked to him and I asked him and he said, yeah, it was just the aftermarket alarm. had nothing to do at the car. Right.

I mean, that's pretty much as close to the sources you can get it. He was like, well, I'll tell you because I was there.

Yeah. You don't know, man, you weren't there. But the other thing is that, like, nobody drives us. There are so many,

the vast majority have probably sub 200, some 1,000 miles on them. And yours is at, what now? 422. 422. I hit 42,000 this week

and I'm already at 423, I think now, yeah. Man, keep going. I've driven it 11,000 miles since I bought it six years ago. Wow.

No matter. tried to drive it as much as I can. So the thing is, I've driven 500 miles because I've been doing some filming out and around and not during traffic times. I try to drive as much as I can, but I've got kids and other fun cars and so it doesn't, some weeks it's a lot, some weeks it's not much. You're leaving suit on a trip and you're making it a point of driving each car for you. But it's, what a special thing. It's so cool to be able to get into a car that's special and like use it. And it's incredibly dirty. And like use it and just own it and drive it and like have the fun and I drove it to filming locations all the last two weeks and it's just great.

Yeah, and it feels special. I think you need a car like that. I mean, it's, it doesn't, admittedly, if you go directly from that to Kuntash, you forget about the Ford GT altogether because it's such a different experience. Or if you go from Kuntas or Kurag GT, you forget about that, and vice versa. Yeah. But I think you, like you said, to have one you can use, rely on, not worry that much about it. It very, is very important to me.

I have three special cars that all do three very different things. And the Ford GT is the one I get in and can just count on and drive anywhere. And I was actually in some pretty heavy traffic with it a couple times and it's not fun, but like you do it. And it is actually doable. You can fit in it. It's. And on an unrelated point, it's the most beautiful of the three. Career GT is like an okay is a fine looking car.

He likes the Kuntash the best. Yeah, but it's not beautiful. I also like the Kuntash the best. The four GT might be the most beautiful. The Kuntash is striking. The Ford GT is actually beautiful. Back wheels too far back. Needs a wing.

Design's too feminine. I never liked how. It designs too feminine. And that's his biggest... The curves are too soft. The Kuntash is how... What is mean? It's just like a flowy, too flowy.

It's a 700 horsepower V8. It's like... But it's like, ooh... 700 horsepower? Well, not factory. 550E. He claims this also. I'd love to see a dinnersheet.

I have a din-o sheet. So come on over, Kenan. Okay, that's the 4GT. 500 miles on a week. I'm not going to drive it all that much going forward, but I did check out. Here's an interesting factoid for you. I've driven my 4GT more in the last year than in the year before.

Wow. Isn't that a surprise? Considering I have the other cars and another child and all that. I don't know. Why? Your station wagon is not as available anymore. Yeah, that's true. I had to give up my station wagon to my wife.

Okay, next up is our market report. Brought to you by Cars and Bids, your online source for cool cars from the 1980s to present. You can say-carsand-bids.com. Carsandbids.com. Sell for free. How many cars have we auctioned at this point? off of my head, 21,000.

21,000 cars. That's pretty amazing. That's pretty legit. Including Kenan sold an M3. I'll tell you the exact number. And a Ferrari, but we'll, you know, yeah, okay. Kennon sold, both with no reserve. A fellow in South Dakota.

Okay, there's a lot to discuss in the market report section, and I want to talk about 997 turbos. I've wanted to talk about this for a long time. Pull up 997 turbos. Kenon, are you aware that a 997 turb ski, as we call it here, is if it has a tip, which is, which is finally we are saying it about the actual tiptronic transmission. If it has a tip, you actually pull up the whole thing.

If it has a tip, it is worth half of what a stick car is worth. Wow, legitimately half. Are you aware of that? That's, that tracks, but also half. That is quite the delta. Does the tip become a buy at some point? Yeah. Like, half.

Like, this is a $100,000 car with three pedals or a 50,000. And that's not like a 430 with a stick in an auto or a mercy. they're both expensive. They're both like expensive exotic cars. This is like a $50,000 car. That's like a three series or a $100,000 car, which is like an actually expensive car. Like that's a deal. What do we do about that? That is a deal. Are you planning on doing anything about that? No, I want a 997, but I'm not going to buy a tip turbo. Why not? That's the thing. He's going to buy it. But at one point when you, tip career cab is more. Because this is the thing. You want a career ass, right? Yeah. Or base. It's the matter. Okay, a base. What's a base? 40s with a stick? 30, 35? 30, 35 for a base C2 with a stake. Yeah. With 7 million miles and 05 that's been hit three times.

That's what we call a Felipe car. Filippa special. And the parking brake goes out and he's like, no interior lights. Who needs them, guys? It's a convertible. You got the moon. If transparent windows were an option,

Felipe would spend three days trying to decide. Most windows. He would build a chart. Do I really need transparent windows? I don't know. I could just stick my head. I could roll it down and stick. my head out. Oh, and if they weren't

the normal thing that happened. Okay. Yeah. You would option, you would not get electric windows if they're optional. You'd be rolling. Oh, absolutely not. Gladly. Anyway, it's a half price. I know it's not appealing because it's an automatic blah, blah, blah, but half the money, 50 grand. 49 for that

cap. I know, that cab is. So 49 and a baseball hat for the shifter. Yeah. How bad is the tip? It's not great, but it can handle loads of power. Yeah. And it's not bad. I mean, like it's, it's not clunky or anything. Like, yeah, it was a torque converter auto, so it's like smooth, you know. Spamery service is the same transmission Mercedes for the SL-65. It was like it can handle a lot of

power. A lot of power. And people get lots of power in these. For me, it's like I still wouldn't, I don't, I don't want to lose my manual card over a, I wonder though, like if there's a person for whom this makes a lot of sense. If you're going to daily this car and you're going to be in traffic and you're looking at what can I get for 50. And then why buy a turbo? Because it's because it has 500 horsepower just sitting in traffic who cares Felipe you know nothing of traffic

you don't know how traffic breaks and you want to get through a brr at 300 or in this case 500 will be the equivalent experience Felipe never look up what 250 GTO's cause

but that is amazing your argument is that power is what matters here no my argument is that there's all sorts of different things that mean things to clearly there are buyers of that price but I can't imagine I'm going cheaper when I look at this I think to myself this is a be a

pretty good daily. Like if I just needed a car to drive around, drive the store, like daily and not, for 50, it's like, it's appealing. I don't, like, how do they go lower? They don't, yeah. You're not going to lose money. So really, the values have, have kind of fallen this way. Manual turbo is at the top, then turbo S and then auto turbo, because all turbo S is, though some turbo S is bring all the money. This one, I think, didn't because it's a cab and it doesn't have center locks. A good turbo S coop with center locks like this, although this car had a million miles. I may still bring more than a stick turbo or around the same. Interesting.

Like this one here. I mean, that shows you. It's cream white. Well, less of the one total less of that. Somewhere in the 90s, presumably. And like a car with similar miles about a manual turbo. Yeah, I mean, it starts to get hard, though, because some of them have weird mods and some have been hit.

You'd have to run into it. It's in and about there. Turbo West is, though. Yeah, 100 for a Turbo West. What I really want is a TurboS edition 918 Spider. When did the PDK arrive? PDK was for the 0.2 cars, which was probably the 10 model year. So, or maybe 11, I don't know if they skip 10, but it's in that area.

And all the turbo Ss are PDK. But still, it's a decent value. Great value. That is a great value. Speaking of great values, Kenan, give us one. So I recently did some research for a video that I was talking about five under appreciate, like exotic cars I expect will go up in value. And I would really start thinking.

The final cars in a kids but YouTube channel. outside this podcast. Thank you for leave it. Anyway, so I started really thinking about this, like what cars are going to go up and buy what cars I think are desirable and what cars are undervaluated. And I don't know why, but I was thinking about Lamborghinis and I feel the Mersiago

in general is that way. The E-gear cars should be worth a lot more than they are and they will be one day, I suspect. But one that really caught my eye was the Super Ligerre. So the first-generation got out of Superlizsera. It came out in 2008. It debuted in 2007.

and it was the ultra-lightweight focused version of this car. I looked at the average of what they sold. We sold these two in the past one for 140, one-for-1507. The average sale price of the last five years, according to Classic.com, which is a great resource for this, is $130,000. I know. A 430 scooterie over the same period of time, on average, $221,000.

And people talk about that being undervalue. Because a 360 challenge, Tradali is like a 300 car. For a good one, yeah. For a rough one is 200. Yeah. And so, like, they only built 600. 181 of these cars for the whole world. 618. 618, excuse me, 618.

And so, like, this is... Yeah, this is a really special car. Totally underval. Click on that yellow one. Their number that have transacted have seen under 100 grand. And it's like... Wild. That's not going to last. This car is really special. And I suspect people have forgotten about it. Also,

you know, the vast majority were eager. They did make between 10 and 20 manual versions, which I'm sure that'll probably be a million-dollar car one day. It would not be surprised. But this car is It's just nuts. I mean, it's an ultra-lightweight-focused special Lambo. Right. That's selling for, like, regular 430 money.

Right. This should not be the case. If you have the means, you'd probably consider buying one of these. I agree with you. I think that this is a really special car. I've always kind of thought that. You never see them. They were really focused, really special.

Plus, they're super legy. Plus, do you know how much horsepower it has? It's an easy one for you and I to remember. 522. 522 horsepower, because that's our birthday, May 22nd. I understood the first time, thank you. I know I understood. Super leggera.

What does it mean? Extra light. Extra light. And it is. Most of the bodies made out of carbon fiber along with yours. Yeah, and the underbody panels of carbon fiber. They took 220 pounds out of this car with standard car. I agree.

These are super undervalued, especially compared to 430 scrood. I don't really get, in general, why Gallardo is really not treated all that well by the market. Other than, you know, the R8 is there, which kind of added to the production totals, and people are a little afraid of this power train. but I mean, compared to a 430. I think it's, I think this is a super cool car. I always have. I just wish they made more in sticks.

Would you say that that was super legit? Thanks. I was hoping you would pick that up. I didn't want to. Okay, Felipe, give us something interesting. Yeah, I agree with you, by the way, Kenan. Can you pull up ND. Miatas?

You can click on the thing. Thanks. Oh, wow. That's quite one. We've sold a bunch of RF 30th anniversary editions. Yeah. You know about this car? Mm-hmm.

It's like a regular Miata. And eat, but it's the same color as a pumpkin. You've seen those? I like pumpkins. Yeah, to eat? Only in pie form. Huh. Okay.

So this one sold for 376. We've sold a bunch of these in like the high 30s. MSRP is 38,000 for all of them. Really? Really? So it's at MSSRP? When there's 3,000. Type in Miata anniversary.

Or just 30th anniversary edition. It's the only anniversary edition. 3-0-T-H. And then hit enter. Hit Enter. Oh, no. Keep going. All right.

We've legitimately probably 10% of the... I know. We've sold the bunch. How many? 16. So... And there were 3,000 of them, right? They're all in the high 20 to 30s.

There was that one that sold for 41.25. MSRP on that was also 38,000. Yeah. I've watched this. We've been selling... Early on, I got it. Because you couldn't get them. When this one listed and sold, this first one for 39, I was like, wow, we got really lucky.

I remember thinking that. Same. Go back. And then the next one got similar money with more miles, so it was less money, but it made sense. And then they just kept going. And I thought, well, these are going to come down at some point, and they never did. Now, it does look like the RFs are really stronger. Yeah, the one for 355, I assume that I must have people, the non-RF is lower.

Yeah. The RFs definitely pull more. It's weird they did both. Also, I don't understand the variation. Yeah. Maybe somewhere in Canada or maybe. But, like, how are they still selling for a buvsticker with three to 20,000 miles? Right.

I don't understand. And also there's 3,000 of them. They must... It's not that rare. Any of them? The package is identical. To be clear, I think this is cool as hell. If I was looking for an ND, I would really want one of these, but then I would see it's still a sticker and I probably wouldn't...

Or the equipment. All right. So, like, what does it add? Not that much. The raise wheels, the rainbow brakes. But it's cool. The color. That's kind of it, though.

But it's cool. I know. It is cool. I agree with that it's cool. But you could get soul red and pay half. How? How? How?

How, like, how have these maintained? They're the only car that's four years old in this market. Yeah. That's not that limited that's selling for a buff sticker. Yeah, I agree. I'm surprised by it. It's not like it had a blower on it or something like that. No.

Every time one of these cells, I have a similar thought for a couple seconds and then I kind of move on with my brain. But I agree with you. I'm, like, surprised at how much money they still pull and how desirable they still are. In general, well-specked ND, both one and two Miatas, still get shockingly close to sicker. Especially compared to NCs. And C's are zero dollars.

Because the difference at year is one model, like between a 15 ND. But NC is so good. An NC Club? Yeah. He had an NB, you know. Did you know that? I did know that, yes. Apparently ND Miata's with great specs are the box.

Can I tell you something? I'm going to blow your mind right now. Please. I think the ND is the all-time best Miata. I think the RF is the coolest, and I would get the orange. And so this is, one could argue, this is the best Miata ever. made this particular car low miles they're still making the rf yeah the nd3 is purportedly better but you only have one 30th birthday dude so true next year for me they're only they're gonna be up to the 35th anniversary

here soon and that'll go for so much money also of note there were there were no special edition there were some special editions and a and b's but they were all color related but now they're naming them like anniversaries they they did a bunch of special editions they were color and they were all like They didn't have, they were cosmetic entirely. Limited edition, the name of half of them. Well, and there was that BBS one, the Merlo Mika. Yeah. I remember it.

Anyway, I agree with your point. I think these do sell for a lot of money. However, I think it's the greatest Miata ever made. You heard it here? I mean that. Some guy came out to me in a parking lot yesterday when I was filming, and he was like, hey man, you know, Doug, nice to meet you. And what are you driving?

He said an ND. He wasn't proud of it. I was like, dude, that's the car. I still think about how much I like that car. Go back to Endi Miatas. Oh, wow. Wow, okay, sure. Look at these.

Go to lowest price. What are the lowest prices? Oh, they're in the low, low, low, low. But they're not under 10. No, no, they're not under 10. But I have bid on at least one. And I will continue to because I bid on that block one that got the 1625 because it was an ocean beach. These things are so cool for the money.

The end of the street is the ideal for Philippa. But like at 15, which they're not quite there for non-accident. did ones. These are all, I suspect to have accidents, whatever. Yeah. But as they get below 15, that's a lot of recent newish car for 15-grab. And it's so fun to drive. So much fun. You've convinced me.

I'm selling the bar for Andymia. Okay, do that. If I find one for under 15, I will. The best thing about the ND, in my opinion. Because to get under 14, you'd have to get an accident car and you won't. And also it would have to be listed locally, and I have no qualms about it. Um, and either part of those. Can't put your dog in it anyway.

I know. The best thing about the ND is it has all the modern stuff, but they still manage to make it as light as an N.A. It's trickery. It's literal sorcery, this car. The only problem was that my, my wife hated the NBiomatic because it was so low to the ground. But the N.A.

But the N.A. It feels better. It's much more. It's refined. And it does drive better than the N.C. does. The suspension setup's completely different. They really focused on it. What does Emily think of the ND? The ND is a great car.

The only thing. I drove one with a super. charger, which was great, and that made it perfect. Modified, okay. That was the only thing that was modified. How much power was that making? I can't remember. What was the top power output on an ND? Like the early ones had a smaller engine. I think of, I think one

60 is the most. What do you think my orange anniversary, my pumpkin has? It's the same engine. 160. There was. 210 horsepower and 187 foot pounds of torque. Yeah, the early ones had, right. But then it went down maybe. It was a way of

situation. Why don't you know this? But it, as a connoisseur of pumpkins. But this made it... That made it... 200 was the number. Yeah, it was 210, 187 foot pounds of torque. Interesting. But it was...

That really brought it to where... That was the right balance. Because the only thing about it is like... It does... It's not fast enough. It doesn't have enough power. It feels fast. But if you bring up the power just a little bit,

then it matches the capabilities of the rest of the car, which are very good. Yeah. And you don't want to overdo it, though, like some people do. Exactly. And there's a fine balance. Right. It's like tuning an instrument. Yes, it is.

And this one's just... You just use the fine tuners and just get it right there. And it was, I love driving that car. Okay, that's an interesting point. Thank you. That you've made. And I do think the ND special editions are surprisingly expensive, but they are the greatest Miata ever made.

We now move on to our final segment. Questions, questions, questions. Remember to ask us a question. Go to Carsandbids.com. Click on the communities tab. and then there will be a post there that has all the questions for next week's podcast, and we will answer them. Now, we will not be doing this next week because I'm traveling. We're going to pre-record using this week's questions.

So there's going to be a lot of this week questions. Yep. But after that, we're going to do it every time. And there are some great questions this week and next week. Great. Some of the best questions of all time. So listen to this week's episode and next week's episode. Okay.

First question from somebody, oh, from a user who's a user who's, name is Kennan's wife Emily. Hi, Kenan. To Kenan, hi, honey, did you enjoy the trip? I know I had lots of fun, smiley face. Your biggest cheerleader and lover, Emily. Yes, the trip was wonderful. Okay, fine. This person

does not exist is killing me. Yes, it was a lovely trip, though. I had a good time. Kenan's wife, they're not married. They're not married. Did you see a ring on that thing? We're hoping that in the next, Emily's hoping for any day now. Kennan's hoping to delay it a couple years

and then they'll have a nice wedding Do you think that he'll propose a little lug nut from his car? He thinks a lug nut is something that he did. He doesn't understand what he just said. Log bolt, for starters. I hope you don't

talk to Emily like that. Okay. No, just Felipe. Next question. From Amantron, Doug, is there one car that you would travel to another country to review? Philippa, would you like to answer that? Yeah, he traveled to Canada to review. you have Shuron. That was years ago. What about now,

but what's the answer now? I know the answer. I'm trying to think of a funny one. I'll give you a funny one. Aspark owl, you go to Japan to review an Asperk Owl, admit it. To review vaporware? Yeah. I'm not going to Japan to drive nothing. I don't think he would go to Italy to do the Ital Design Columbus if they offered it to. I think they did. I would only go to Japan to review an owl if it was an SP-600, first of all. Naturally. Why would you review a version that is the best of us? And second, no, I wouldn't go for the Columbus. Now, this question asks, is there one country car that you would go to another country for?

The answer is no to what, but. I know what it is. Go ahead. But he would go to Brunei to see the garages. If the Sultan called, if the Sultan called and said, hey, man, we want to do some videos with these cars, I would say, all right, let's do it. And I would do 10 of them or 50 of them. If your iPhone lit up and there was a call that said it was called from Brunei. Yeah, if Brunei called, I'd answer.

Yeah. And I would go for the cars. I'm dead serious, by the way. The answer is generally, no, I'm not traveling anymore out of the country to film videos. It's just not, it's too much of a time commitment for one car, usually, and it's just not worth it. Even the Ital Design Columbus is so special to me, but it's just not worth it. But, I do it. Brunei would do.

There's so many crazy cars. There's so many ways. Plus, to be one of the guys who went to Brunei. No, it's like shaking Sinatra's hand that you said to me the other night. Yeah. Yeah. Wouldn't you? 100%,

but I would go to other countries. I don't think you would. You wouldn't know what anything was that was that was that. That's a great point. You would have it to flex over him for eternity.

Yeah, that'd be the big thing. You know what he'd do in Brunei? He'd go into the jungles and get really tall and look the tree. Right, because he's wearing a giraffe shirt

yet again. I wore this shirt specifically for you. It's the last one that we were recording for a little bit in person. I thought I would grace you with a giraffe. I wanted to give him some low-hanging fruit so he doesn't have to strain his neck

like you will to the tops of the trees So there's your answer I would go to Brunei Wouldn't you? In a heartbeat Yeah

I understand there A lot of political tensions around I guess Brunez I would miss Kenan and Emily's wedding If it meant I could go to Brunei

If the Salton called me And said I'm doing it on set And I'd be like hey They're getting married And Catalina He'd be like no You're coming And I'd be like all right

We would delay the wedding If I could go to Can Ken and come Yeah. All right, Emily, bad news. You can't drive around on a silent IQ. Right. Caledulina reference there. That's a good Catalina reference.

All right. Yeah, that's all they're driving. And Subaru Baja. Or like caped, folks. Next question from B-S-H-E-R. I am curious. This is a long question. I have capped it just the early part of the question.

I'm curious. I am curious if you have noticed a trend with repeat vehicles, whether they sell for more than the previous auction, last roughly the same or all over. essentially do you think highlighting the car that's been previously sold on the site for what it's up for auction ads or takes away from the value of the vehicle i'll let filippo answer generally my view is that a car that has just sold on the site will probably sell for less the second time if it's like immediately after if it's right after if there's been a year or two years it doesn't really matter i actually think

that there's a positive impact yeah it's been vetted before it's been vetted before you know that an enthusiast bought it and owned it for a year interesting there's more information about what have, like, you could, you also know who the prior owner was, all the version that they presented. So I think, like, if it's, if it's been a while. If it's, it's, it's not good for it because the car, like, the people who were there were there and then they kind of had this cooling off, like, hey, I'm glad I didn't get it, or they just bought something else.

Moved on. Yeah. And also, like, why are you selling it? And then there's that fear. There's a lot of that stuff. So right away is a problem. You make a good point. If it's been two years, well, hey, someone who's into the site bought it.

And so they're going to be an enthusiast. That's good. I mean, I think about all the cars in theaters, we know that's buy and sell car every year. Every year or two. It's like totally accepted. Yeah. It's actually nice that somebody that is part of the community bought. Yeah.

That's a good point. The one kind of wrench that's thrown into this is more the market changes. So like there are, you could definitely look at some cars and say, well, this one listed in 21 and then sold and then sold again in 24 and that hurt it. Well, no, I think the market changed a lot. And so I think you can't really necessarily make a conclusion based on even, even based, on the same car selling at auction within a two-year span. Because the market changed so much for some cars. Not the S-Bark-Awell.

Those are still transacting at zero. They're not transacting at all. But, yeah, no, I think that that's a summation. You agree. I do. There you go. That's the answer. It's an interesting question,

because it's surprising how many repeat cars we have. It's kind of nice to see. At least one every couple days that's already sold. Yeah, especially now. I mean, we've been around for four years. 21,000 auctions. a couple weeks ago. People buy and keep cars for short periods?

Have we ever had a situation where someone bought a car that was previously on the site and didn't know what had previously been on the site? From cars and bids? Yeah, no, they bought a car from someone. 100%. And they've, they've, like, gone to list it. And they're like, really?

We have had cars that were bought on the site, sold to somebody else. That person sold it on the site. Right. Or a dealer. Sold it on good cards and beds. We've actually had cars that I think have transacted four times on the site.

That's funny. Mercedes-S. We're serving. It happens. It happens. Okay. Next question from Daniel Gaiman. Will there be a Cars and Bids app? Yes. Very soon.

Very soon. Stay tuned. We're being told by Felipe. Very soon. Stay tuned. We're all staying tuned, Philippo. Thank you. Next question. From Alec Mets, 2011.

What car do you think has the greatest disparity in value between the manual and automatic version? Supra. Mercy. Mercy. Mercy. Yeah, mercy is the winner. I think it's, I think it is mercy.

And I posed to the question in part because I was going to try to see if we could ideate one that's different here. Is there anything that has even fewer? Well, okay. So I think there are probably some cars that like aren't discussed that like a Ferrari California stick. If one of those showed up, a regular Cali is a 90 car. If a stick one, there's nine. Right. Or something.

We don't know. We don't know. They just like when there's some 575Ms that are. Super Americas. Yeah. Which is what he's thinking of. Regular one is 180. a stick?

Did you say a stick's a million? About a million, yeah. So that's up there. That's more than a mercy. Right. Which I consider it to be like 599. 250 to 7.

Yeah. Mercy is like a 200 to 700 thing. 250 or a special manual. Yeah. 599 is up there. Mercy SV is. Mercy as. Yeah, but Mercy SV is already pretty expensive.

What's a regular SV? I don't really know when the last time I don't want to transit. No, that's not that many. Yeah, let's see. With a while ago though. Let's see. We sold it.

We sold a decent one. Yeah. 700 for a tip. Yeah, that feels about right. But sticks, the general feeling, like there's four stick ones. Yeah, they're all over a million. But I don't think, I don't, I think the, that's probably the greatest total dollar disparity, but the Delta. So I guess, Mercy Manual is a very a lot.

The very spot, we had that in the two insane sales at 710 and 650, but we've also sold one for 417. Yeah. Although all the O2s were stinks. You know, I'd be interested in, whereas the 640s are different. And that was Carve-Sup-Lamash. I would be very interested in knowing what. The answer to this question is, based on our current knowledge, it's probably like a Super America or a Mercy. However, there are cars out there that have not transacted that may be more.

Maybe more. Like a stick California to a regular California. I don't know. What is that? I don't know. So if you have a Stick California, we would really love it. That's interesting. Sold on the site.

And a Mercy LP670, I don't know. They don't get sold. I don't know. Well, you know, who knows? But yeah. But yeah, something like that. That sounds right. How about the tip for F40?

Well, for, yeah, the Agnelli car? Yeah. What do you think that goes for? The automatic goes for more than the manual. You don't think, come on, it's a one-of-one OE tip car for Gianni Agnelli. Yeah, well, Vallejo-Mondioles don't go for more than the manual. Yeah, but they weren't made for Gianni-Nelli one-of-one. I don't think people want it.

I would buy it. Yeah, you're the... the only one. I'd pay up for it. I don't know that other people would. Well, Filippo would. Because he's Italian and he idolizes Gianni Ignelli. When Filippo grew up, Gianni Ignelli was the only wealthy Italian. And Filippo said, someday, I want to

be like Gianni. No, there were other wealthy Italians. Just all their kids have been kidnapped. You didn't want to be one of those kids. Okay, final question. Final question. Final question comes from Austin M. 333. And it's a question for all of us, but geared towards Felipe. Yeah.

If you each had a daily to daily drive a common car found in a $10,000 used car lot, what would it be and why? And the question continues, Felipe, you're welcome, Kenon, I'm sorry. I have the needed answer, but Kenon, please go first. How common is common? Like a car. Like, you can't pick a BMW. Does it pick a BMW? Is that too much?

Okay. I would say, like, an Alexis LS 400, like an original one or, you know, the early ones. That's a good answer. Very reliable, really refined. What are you smearing at? That's a great answer. He's got himself in a rear-wheel drive V8, nice car. Yeah.

What do you got? It's the nicest car that price rate. Because if I can't choose a BMW of some kind, which inevitably, of course, I would. It's like you can, but it can't be a... I could choose an E-9, 328I. Or an E-36-tip convertible. No. Not M-3.

No. I don't know if you can really get it. You maybe get an auto beat M-3 for that money these days. But that's not going to be a normal use car. The spirit of the question is a normal car. So what do you got? My head went to like a Mark 6 GTI. That's not a normal car.

He's saying like a, they still have three trillion of them. They're everywhere. Am I more in the spirit of the question than he is? No. An Alex, you think you walk around? By the way, I've seen the question, and he specifically said I couldn't say an E39 540I. I know.

And you're saying that he's trying to evade the question. I think mine is more. I have a GTI on E39, 540i are two very different cars. Yeah, my car is more normal than, I don't agree in the least. He got an LS 400. That was like a car. That was a car.

It's the point. It's in a used car lot. People bought that car. They aren't around. There are hundreds of thousands of worth seven grand. Where do you think they are? Where do you think LS 400s are if they're not at used car lots? Mostly junkyards are being owned by old people.

I don't know. They're not by old people anymore. No, they're not. That's the hella flush crew has that now. What do you choose? To be clear, any Alexis Ellis in that price, I just probably what I would choose. My answer is the correct one, as it always is. the 1998 Mercedes-Benz ML320 gray bumpers, cloth seats, no tint.

Good night, everybody. Do you agree? I get it. I don't agree. The last time I had to make this, in 2016, I bought a car for $8,000 that was a Ford Focus hatchback stick. Yeah? You actually did this. I own that car for five years and like 70,000 miles, and it was wonderful.

And I would buy it again in a heartbeat. You wouldn't get an ML320? No. But that six-cylinder glass forever, it has a locker or has a low range. And it looks like you were the most successful realtor in the community of new buildouts in 1999. Yeah. That's all I care about. You're right.

I should do that. No tint plus seats. Depending on the neighborhood, you should be in an explorer. No. That's a clunky thing. So you look like a real estate person. I look like a Freemason. He looks like a punk in his jeezer.

They all drive Lexus. What an Ohio thing to say. What a deeply Ohio thing to say. To not only have a, to not only know what a Freemason is, but to know like what they drive. See them outside of the Masonic temples. By the way, I'm surprised you didn't choose a fee if I found out of a bar. No, it's a normal car. I thought about that.

I probably would have. Yeah, I mean, trust me, if I could choose a performance car of like you cheated in it. What about an 04 maximum? Remember that maximum generation with the coin slot roof? Those had a lot of power. They did. I bet I could drag him and beat him and it was also good.

But I'd be so comfortable and peaceful. I don't know. You got to do what you want to do. I got a coin slot roof. Are you saying that that I can't do a GTI? Because I have a backup box. What's your backup? Jetta sport wagon stick.

That's more like it. But that's not a normal car. You're never going to find that in a use car. That's an unusiest car. What are you talking about? It's a general. It's a jet. I'm getting a coin slot maxima.

This thing, first owner was Enterprise. Also, just so you know, that's like two grand. It's actually outside of the perib versus the question. to cheat out. The coin slot maximus? Okay, then the next gen maxima. You know, the next gen maxima after the coin slot car, you guys can all stop watching. That's fine.

The next gen maxima after the coin slot car, the 09-ish, I legitimately think that is a beautiful car. Pull that up. Do we sold any of those? I'm interested. I'll bet you we haven't. Type in maxima. Let's just do what we've sold. Wait, now I'm debating.

That's the coin slot car. I don't think that one has the coin slot. And no, we have not sold the gen that I'm talking about. Type in 2009 maxima so we can all in, in july, the beauty. It might be like 2011. Okay, let's see. No, that's the one. Oh, that is such a nice looking

car. That is a good looking car. That car is probably 10, right? Yeah. Boom. If that. Problem solved. You're welcome. Would you now choose the maximum now that I've mentioned? Of course. You'd rather have a GTI than that. Look at that. You could probably get all those mods and still be under 10. All day. Kenning, pop on at Craigslist. Let's go look for a maxima.

What are you doing this weekend? Wait, sorry, go back one. Not this. Let's buy a maxima and hemmed. Go back one. Go back a photo. That's some out-country thing. That's Australian. That's right-hand drive.

That looks like a combination of an Ultima and a Toyota Vensis. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, we've answered the question. I have answered the question correctly. I think I've answered it very well, given who I am. We'll never agree on those. So, goodbye. I want that maxim.

Excerities. You're going to be thinking about that. V-70. Stick. Goodbye, everyone.