THIS CAR POD! with Doug DeMuro & Friends! - Hoovie is Here! What is Mercedes Thinking? New Manual BMW M3! Gullwing Issues!

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Welcome to this car pod. This is a very special this car pod Because today is my birthday Oh, and because we have Hoovey here Hello It is my birthday, you got anything to say? I had no idea. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Is it really? The day this pod is going, is airing is my birthday. I see. Not filming, though, so you don't understand anything. Daddy? You're getting a little older. That's funny, I called you Daddy for almost 10 years now. I'm older than you.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I'm going to turn 40 this year. You're going to turn 40. 40. Wow, how's that feeling? Not good. It's falling apart. You know, you hired Ryan. We were talking about this.
Starting point is 00:01:35 because I used to be the prettiest guy that come on the podcast. And now, I mean, look at me. You think you were the prettiest guy to come up? I was, I will. Oh, I forget, Felipe. What about Felipe?
Starting point is 00:01:44 Oh, his eye. Yeah, I know. He's unbelievable. I know. He comes over here. He insults Nick straight away. That's right. Let's start with the news.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Okay. I want to start with the news. Then we'll talk about all of the hoovie situations. I got questions geared specifically toward you. Whoa. I got, we're going to do Hoovie Talk cars. It's going to be a big Hoovey episode, but let's start with the news.
Starting point is 00:02:03 We're going to get Hoovie's takes on some car news. Who doesn't do car news, so it's going to be interesting. I don't keep up on things past 2007, so same brother Sam. Nick and Whovie haven't done any post-200-7. I'm going to have to carry all this. Okay, the first big news story is this, which is the new Mercedes-AmG-G-G-G-T-4-door. I'm going to just make this clear. There's a Mercedes-AmG-G-G-G-T coop.
Starting point is 00:02:25 There's a Mercedes-AmG-G-G-T-Fordor, and now there's a Mercedes-AMG-G-G-T-Fore coop. Is this troublesome for you? I have no idea. This is why you stopped paying attention to cars made after 2007. I guess so. It's stuff like this. It is quite the mouthful to say all those
Starting point is 00:02:43 differentiators. I think the big thing here is it's all electric, right? So we were all hoping for V8s and AMG's been talking about V8s. It's a 1,153 horsepower, which sounds good, but it's all EV. The front profile is, I think, fine. It looks Mercedes.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I don't love the light bar across. The side to me looks Audi R.S. E.Tron or Tycon, And like, they all work. Same kind of basic form. The rear, though. Have you seen the rear of this be hippold? The rear's weird, the rear with the circle lights. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Whovie, his car's 1153 horsepower. You get any? So I assume in the sub two second category with like the Ticcan turbo West and everything else. Like everything else. It's all the same. I'm like, okay, we have this warp barrier that everybody's passing. Right. And then what's next.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I mean, it's just. Well, I'm not thinking about what's next. I'm thinking about what's now. Okay, okay. Well. Do you ever think about getting a Taekon? They're pretty cheap. They are, I mean, down the road, I think they'll get there.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Because right now, I'm, you know, a little bit older, so like Panama 4S I just sold. So, you know, it has to be in that under 20 junkie range. Same with Nick. Yeah. But my newest car, I think, the 2016 AMG GTS, love the thing. Yeah. I thought those cars wouldn't hold up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:54 And they're actually pretty solid motors. Great power train. And yours had a couple issues, or was that just the tuning and aftermarket stuff? It's the rear main leak is the big problem, because they're a big boosted engine, so it just pours out the back. You had to drop the torque tube and all that stuff. But otherwise, like, no cylinder scoring issues, none of the big, like, the head bolts of the older ones, you know, that kind of stuff. Did it catch on fire, or was that only your SLR?
Starting point is 00:04:14 No, no, that's the SLR. It's a terrible car. I couldn't wait to dump that thing. Minor electrical fault. It never actually caught on fire as far as we can tell. Now that I've sold it, I can say, back when I owned it, I said, oh, it's a minor electrical event. I'm like, no, this thing almost burned to the ground. I mean, it was scorched, like, it was carbon damage.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I mean, it was horrible. Part of the deal is we were going to title wash. this. We were going to rewrite history. Take a page from the Vin-Wiki playbook here. That's right. You were going to go on Vin-Wiki and say, this car, flawless. Wow, boy, that's interesting. He's throwing Ed Bolian under the bus. You came here and called this all ugly. Now he's calling it Bollion a cheater. I didn't say, I mean, it's me. It's a low bar. We're all average-looking men here. So when you hire someone like Ryan that's above average, it's, it just, it sucks for all this. What is all of this? We love Ryan. Back to the electric
Starting point is 00:05:01 Mercedes super sedan. Yeah. I'm really surprised they're launching this. I know EVs are the future and all that, but if you look at the commercial success or lack thereof of, the Ticon, the RSEU-Tron, literally, I mean, even the Model S. The EQS. My presumption is, they're a successful car in this. They got far enough along in development that they just had to bring it to market.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I agree with you. Brad Pitt ain't going to save it. They had Brad Pitt at the launch. Yeah, and Blink 182 played a live set. So, like, that would have been pretty cool. We were invited to them. We were both invited. My general rule about product launches is that when I get invited, I delete the email.
Starting point is 00:05:36 But this time, I actually responded and said respectfully no. It's an unusual. A gentle request, just forward those emails to me. Send your representative. You go to L.A. to hang out with Johnny Lieberman and see Brad Pitt get out of a Mercedes. I haven't seen Blink 182 since 2002 live. You can go see them probably. They probably, too.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I'm not going to do that, but I'll go to a Mercedes launch with Blink 182. No, you don't want to go to this stuff. Did they say pricing? Expensive. I imagine. There's no official numbers down. Because the EQS that I had was $120,000 new, and I got it three or four years old for 30?
Starting point is 00:06:10 They did it's insane. They drop real fast. I don't even think they said when it's going to come out. Yeah, there's some pieces, too, that are still concept car looking in there, so it's not even clear that this is coming out. No, it'll definitely be out. It'll definitely be out looking sort of like this.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I think this is the production one. It's got a big mouth. But that's coming. That's a big news story. Another big news story is, oh yeah, this. This is the new, it's Brabis has their own vehicle now. You see this? This is the kind of thing we would like.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Okay. It's got twin turbo V12 and it's like a long tail. Yeah, the long tails actually, it's striking from the site. So Brabis always, their color is black. And I feel like it sort of hides a little bit how striking this is, but they revealed it at Villa Dast. Am I saying that right? Yes, actually.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And I'm like, surprising that, yes. Oh, yeah, it is surprising. Even to me. It is, so Brabis is known for mostly tuning Mercedes. They do everything from G-Wagons to S-Ls, but this is actually based on the Aston-Martin, including the V-12 and the Aston-Martin. So they must have teamed up with them,
Starting point is 00:07:14 but it is truly their own vehicle, and they change a lot to make it really special. Inside is like everything's quilted and carbon fiber and so on. Yeah, I mean, you can see some Mercedes-Benz in the outside of this car, but like the wheels, but I'm not sure, it must be based on some of the wheels. The wheels are one-off as well for them, but... This thing looks cool.
Starting point is 00:07:30 It is very cool. It's the turbo V-12. I saw in the front, a little bit of Mustang, a little bit of BMW 8 series, the back is beautiful. But whenever these tuning companies and styling companies start making their own cars, it usually runs off all the OEM. So like Pinn and Farina that used to style all the cars. It cost them business. I think it was the opposite for that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Pin and Farina, what happened was, when Pinn and Farina got purchased by Nott was no longer a Italian family design company and was sold overseas. I think a lot of the automakers, particularly Ferrari, no longer wanted necessarily to maintain that relationship. And they were like, we got to do something and we have this brand heritage. So let's make a supercar and try to trade on the name, which is why they named it after the founder of the company. Unfortunately, it has not been a success. Well, of course you would know. This is cool. This is an EVBS.
Starting point is 00:08:24 This is a twin turbo V12. Yeah, not a thousand horse. This is real. Like in the age of all these dumb EVs coming out, this thing. Can you see yourself owning this heavily depreciated? Sure. 77 will be made for the whole world, probably none coming to America. And Brabis, usually with their Mercedes, they're very garish,
Starting point is 00:08:40 or style, just tacked on things. I'm actually really impressed that they... I know there's restraint. This looks good. Yes. The first good-looking Brabis is one that they made the whole car. And it's got KW coilover system, much like your career GT. Damn!
Starting point is 00:08:54 Just for you. They did also get special tires made specifically for this that have like the Brabis logo on them, which I assume no one's going to, like, that's, you're never going to be able to get another set. So, but it's a fairly standard size. All of Bayron for 60 grand. Yeah, it's like, haven't we learned, do never do a special tire for a car? It just kills the resale. But I think it's just an emblem on the sidewall and not, like a special.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I'm looking at the drive and they call it the close to a production version of Mybach Accelero is we're ever going to get. Yeah, kind of. They had the accelero there next to it to, like, showcase as well as a bunch of other really cool cars. It's only a hundred 99.9 inches long. So it's not like insane, like some sort of Duzenberg citizen. situation. One 99 is about the length of that 612, but it's pretty cool. I'm into that.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I'm glad coach building is back and I'm glad it's not EVs anymore. Like that Mercedes before. EVs is what makes coach building possible because you don't have to, so I'm surprised to see them, but this is what people want. This is what when we all sit and think about cars, we think about it. Don't you think Aston is the right company to go to because they're having trouble like finding their lane with all the other luxury and supercars? And so they're down to play ball.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Like they're just like, yeah, if I can move 70s. 27 more units, that's a huge relief to my sales team. Indeed. Next new story, please. Ah, yes. You see this? Who'll be there? Is that a BMW? Okay, BMW has announced that they are going to make a lightweight rear-wheel drive M3-CS
Starting point is 00:10:19 that is manual only, which is a big deal because in the past the CS cars were automatic only. It was all about track performance, the manual only, and I think limited specifically to the United States, not offered overseas. Now, unfortunately, the Germans can't name stuff in German. What happens is this. Especially this name. The Italians name stuff in Italian, and the Italian language is incredibly beautiful. So the Italians get away with naming a car, the Cuadreporte. It just means fordor.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yes. Okay. But it sounds amazing. Machilago. Right. That's Spanish, but we'll move on. Yeah, whatever. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:10:53 The Germans think they can get away with this also, but they can't. So they've named this car the M3 Han Sharmes. which means, I guess, manual shift or hand shift or who, I'm not going to dignify it. Okay. Nonetheless, this is a manual M3CS, manual only. Did you get the cherry on top is it's also a rear wheel drive? Rear wheel drive, which because we learned that it has to be the lesser powerful engine and rear wheel drive in order to work with their manual.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It cuts off it. It cuts off it. This is the car that if you bought one of these today and put it away in 20 years, you're not going to beat the market, but it'll sell for a half a minute. a special color, like that that would be a collector-grade BMW. This is a pretty cool thing. The fact that this is still happening, the fact that they're doing a manual, the fact that it's for the U.S., they see the demand, that's pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And it's sort of like a goodbye to this generation of M3. And is the M2 CS holding, is it as far as like the last equivalent of this? Yeah, the CS cars hold reasonably well, but like a really well-preserved manual E-90 does as well, or better. A 1M, I guess, still. A 1M is desirable for its own reasons, separate from that. But like, you know, like a regular E90M3 that's like a comp with a stick is probably still a better situation. The Cs have dropped maybe a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But this one will hold. 108 grand. You're going to buy one? No. But you know what I was just thinking? 20 years from now, there'll be a bunch of guys here that look like Ryan Lopez with broccoli hair that are going to, this is going to be their golden air of car. And they're going to be talking about what a great value. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Like, Hoovie and I don't acknowledge cars after 2010. Someone will be like, yeah, I don't acknowledge cars after like 2027. And this is their like pinnacle peaked car. I totally agree. This will be a peak. This won't be like a great value. This will always be. There will be a Canon in the future that's obsessed with this as their E-39.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And honestly, B39 and 5 upgrade. Yeah. A lot of things are fairly similar about it. Money aside, this are a black wing. For me personally? Yeah. And Hovie. I think they're about the same money.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Me personally, I really love the G80. I really love the G80. So you don't like America? I love the Blackwing, though, too. That's a tough call. Whovees going to American. Blackwing and the MagRide seats. I love the G80, but I'd probably do a Blackwing also.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Line those two up, though? I mean, that's a heck of a day. Two are the best cars on sale. Yeah. Like truly the best, bar none. Like, not for the price, like two of the best cars on sale. They still are delivering this special experience that very few people are still delivering. And we get BMW a really hard to do.
Starting point is 00:13:29 time for like the XM and some of their cars that are just like awful, but then they're doing stuff like this. Like give them credit. When I was a kid, you know, the ultimate driving machine, you remember, the 2001 BMW thing. That the era we live in. That era was so special. But there's still like a little glimmer of that that has gone away in a lot of other automakers. BMW isn't that anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:50 They are primarily just a luxury brand, but there's still a little bit of this. They still cater to that small audience that exists, yes. It feels like a skunk work project they would do in a strip mall in Huntington Beach. You know what I mean? Like it's like a separate company doing this than the rest of their cars. I will say when I saw all the details for this, I definitely considered a little bit. Slash I'm still considering getting one. They're pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:14:13 It's a shame it's not a wagon. Then you could really. The problem with the wagon is I need more seats now. I would have bought the M3 wagon when it first didn't come to the U.S. But now they screwed it up. They're late. And we've accepted the grill at this point. I never had a problem with the grill.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Really? You hate the grill. I know it looks like the 30s cars. I've just, I've never been able to get around the big kidneys. I think that the grill is going to be like all those other things, the roadrunner with the big wing, all the stuff that the, oh, it was stupid and it's time. And then time goes on and people are like, you know. Bangal butts. It was kind of emblem.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Well, the Bangal butts never really aged well, but the other stuff. Okay. Some of them did. Man, I saw an abandoned way expired plates, Bangle E-65 yesterday, just rotting, you know, on a driveway with weeds coming up. Those cars are so bad. I'm somewhere in between. I've normalized the front grills. I won't say I like them, but I no longer hate them.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Like, I'm just, I'm neutral towards them. The more aggressive that it's styled, I think, the better it looks. So like in a normal, like a base, you know, three series, two series, whatever. Not two series to have it, but, you know, it just doesn't look right. Well, the base cars don't have the grill. I mean, you know what I mean? The more stuff's tacked onto it like this one, I think it looks better. Yeah, for sure.
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Starting point is 00:19:10 Oh, this. This is the, have you seen this? Did you read about this, Nick, before? I sure did. It's a one-off Ferrari meant for a wealthy customer in Austin, Texas. That's about all we know of who got it, but it is based off the F8 spider, which has been discontinued. However, it's meant to look like an F80, but with the roof cut off. So it's absolutely beautiful.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I think the F80, they nailed it. This is so cool. Ferrari is doing these one-off cars. And it's a V8 non-hybrid. So all of the new cars have hybrid in it. This one is not messed up with electrical, which means it's going to age gracefully. It's going to be another one that the future Ryan from 20 years ago is lusting after saying this is the swan song of non-hybrid V8 Ferrari. So it's the F8's power train too.
Starting point is 00:19:51 How weird. So it's the old V8. Yeah, but I mean, you're getting a one-off Ferrari and it's a V8. Like I'm, and it looks like that, sign me up. This is, it's so cool that Ferrari is doing this, these one-off things. I bet they're $10 or $15 million. Still won't put a manual in it, but, you know, we're getting there. We're getting warm, Ferrari.
Starting point is 00:20:12 You know, all of the modern Ferraris are hybrid now. All. Yeah. I wonder if this goes down as like the last, non-hybrid Ferrari ever. If dude's got like a Bachman collection of just like cool stuff like that, that will one day sell for all the money.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Yeah. You know what it reminds me of is when people were updating their Ferraris, like when you had a 3.48 and you would make it look like a 355, so you cut the side strikes off. And like, there's still some going down the road today. So it's the old, last old school Ferrari. And from the factory, they're making it look like the modern hybrid ones, which is goofy. Goofy. It's cool, though. It's a cool idea.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I can't believe they do this. Like, what a cool thing. You show up with enough money at the Fri factory, they'll build you some. Think about how many BS cars he had to buy to get that allocation. You know what I would do? How many romas he has in his driveway? You know what I would do? Puro Songway Longtail. Hybrid only, or like EV.
Starting point is 00:21:07 They would do it. With enough money, they would do it. Least desirable car they've ever met. We got any other news? Land Rover and Jeep are doing something, I hear. What else we got? JLR and Stalantis are. So it's an MOU memorandum of understanding, and it is non-binding.
Starting point is 00:21:24 So, like, basically there's no formal commitment here, but they are talking about sharing their prowess because they're both such reliable, steady brands to collaborate on cars. Land Rover goes looking to avoid tariffs. Land Rover goes looking to help build some cars in the States. And who do they find Chrysler? But this is like Gen Z broccoli heads where they're talking, they're not dating. They're not, like, is it? It's like they send a Snapchat to each other. figure out what's going to happen with the tariffs. But this is an unbelievable thing.
Starting point is 00:21:52 How does Land Rover end up finding the Land Rover equivalent in America? The only thing that can come out of this is problems. Well, maybe they'll help produce the type 0-0-0-Jaguire that no one wants. Well, back in the new millennium, Land Rover thought they'd go to the warm, reliable arms of BMW at one of their low points and reliability. So here we go again. The four-cylinders that are so bad in those wranglers, are they going to end up in the That, oh, oof. Yeah, it's an interesting thing. Who knows what'll come out of it.
Starting point is 00:22:20 It does make sense. Land Rover is at an unusual disadvantage in today's world because, unlike all of their rivals, they do not produce cars in the United States. And right up until the tariff situation happened, that was seen as a bit of an advantage. Like Landovers are still British, even though they're building the defenders in Slovakia.
Starting point is 00:22:36 They don't talk about that. The Vin still starts with S. They're still British. Well, now it's become a real liability. Porsche and Land Rover have this difficulty that they've so associated with their home country, now it's a problem. So they're going to show up and they're going to build Land Rover Jeepes, and it's going to be another problem.
Starting point is 00:22:52 That's a pretty good theory, actually, that it's a tariff workaround. Maybe they're going to bring back the NAS Defender 90. I doubt it. It's called the NEOS Grenadier and it's not very successful. So back in the day, they never made defenders in different continents. Like the G-Wagon got built in different places. They made some defenders in South Africa for a very short time. But I think every defender up until the Slovakian one was built in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Okay. I'm pretty sure. Nick is a Landover, man. Why doesn't he educate us a little? I don't know new ones. We're going to talk about P30.38's later because I have a bone to pick, and then we'll get into it then. Boy, these three cars are like JD Power Vehicle Dependability Study the bottom three. It's like literally a picture of the podium of the low three finish of VDS. Although actually, the new Defender is the most reliable new Land Rover.
Starting point is 00:23:43 And it looks good. Well, that's one take. Anyway, we got more news. What else we get? VWIDBuzz. IDBuzz took 26 model year off because they needed a clear inventory. It's back for 27.
Starting point is 00:23:55 But they've got a genius fix to solve that sales lump. The genius fix is they're adding a pop-top bed situation, or maybe it's not a pop-top, just a bed situation. The roof doesn't come up. There's no way they would have done that. You know what's wild? This is the Eurovan. This is the Eurovan all over again.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I think they're going for that, too. They're like, oh, man, we can't compete on a regular. Van, let's do a Westphalia version, let's do a camper version. This is that all over again. You must be thinking about getting a 90-buzz. The appreciation. You sold one, I think, or has it been two now on cars and bids, and it was 30s for? Dude, have you gone on an arbitrator? There are dealers offering them for 30 off. It's new, brand new. Right. Yeah, a dealer was begging me. Although that's arguably where it should have been priced all along. Of course. They came in a little hot. Well, that's what happens. I mean, any new car that sells at X discount, that should have been the price. The market
Starting point is 00:24:43 That's market correct. They have not announced pricing for 27 yet. I mean, people assume it'll be roughly the same, but it better be lower. It better be lower. There has never been a greater disconnect between coolness and sales failure. Like, it's crazy to me, but it's overpriced, it's not particularly practical, it's too big, too long, the segment, it was the wrong demo they went after. You're missing the range part.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Range is an issue. Well, not only that is like the older Tesla, because I have the old Model X that's before the battery heating and all that stuff, which is the same with this. is the same with this. It's the same battery size, about the same range as the old Model X. And in the winter, without this heating to fix it is atrocious. It's 200 miles. Really, it's 100 miles on the winter.
Starting point is 00:25:22 It's not a practical car. It's not a practical car. And it's not a practical car even for families. It's way too expensive to buy. They did not do all these family solutions like the Odyssey has with seats that slide and cup holders. It's lacking all these cup holders. But it's pretty cool. It's really cool.
Starting point is 00:25:37 You want one. Oh, I definitely do. He lives in Encinousinus, the Volkswagen Bus Capital of the world. Yeah. The only place they're selling these things. But at 70, that's where it's like, okay, it's a fun novelty toy that I, like, maybe use periodically. It gets to be a tough sell. Yeah. Well, what about at 38? What do you jump in?
Starting point is 00:25:54 38 and have a conversation. Have the conversation. Yeah. They're there. Unfortunately, the conversation is with my wife and not with a dealer. You don't think she'd want one? I think this is the coolest thing in the world. I don't know if we're ready for an EV and like all this plugging things in, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Well, it's insinitas, so it'd make the trip down and back. Yeah, I don't know. have enough range to come to dinner. All right. Next, is that it? That's the end. That's the end of our news. We got a lot to discuss today in the talk.
Starting point is 00:26:20 We've got to move on to the talk car segment. The talk cars segment, unbelievably, is brought to you by the key channel, which is Cars and Bids. Have you seen the key videos? It's so beautiful. Beautiful, high quality videos. But most importantly, Zinger, you know, Zinger, they have these crazy supercars. You know this?
Starting point is 00:26:37 It's incredible. They're incredible. They have this chassis that was designed by AI. so it looks like a human skeleton. Because instead of like square things that, because that's what manufacturing does, I've never seen anything like it before. It is one of the coolest things I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And I don't get into these like one-off supercar things. So it's like a 3D pin chassis that looks like human musculature. I think I've seen. You don't know how. I'm not connected to this whole situation. I pull up a zinger chassis. Ryan's DJing this? The coolest thing I've ever seen in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Ryan close your other tab just in case. You know you've got tabbed you shouldn't have open Type in chassis Ryan Yeah so I have I have seen a few photos of this And it is very organic looking So we can get a tight shot So chassis At the quail
Starting point is 00:27:24 One of the engineers sat down next to me And he was describing this based on AI And I was like this is the craziest thing I've ever heard And it sounds like a total failure But it's real Can you zoom in on this picture? I guess well it'll be it'll be there for the audience to see Oh boy oh wow
Starting point is 00:27:38 We're going to actually do it instead of just zoom in. That's just insane. I never thought that was going to happen. Oh, it's a Miller Motor Cars post. Just zoom it on your track path. And it's going to be a 200-kilobite photo or whatever. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Anyway, you see that. You see that. It looks like humans. It's crazy. I really think we're going to look back on this car as like the end of like right angles and stuff when this stuff was optimized. They claim they've like used logarithmic technology to optimize it for like all the the actual.
Starting point is 00:28:09 strength and stuff. Anyway, it's the cool singer I've seen my entire life. Ryan Lopez got to drive one. Wow. Are you? I'm in. Is it live now? Is it live now? Can we pause and watch it? Okay. Are you a little nervous about Ryan Lopez? I am a little, you know, it's a lot of power for
Starting point is 00:28:27 such a young boy. Oh no. I started this. I'm so sorry. He parked it outside of a bikini store. He parked it outside a bikini store. Oh my God. All right. Well, I can't wait to see that. Ryan Lopez video with a zinger. Anyway, that's the sponsor today's talk cars segment. But there's a lot of talk cars to discuss,
Starting point is 00:28:45 including the reason that Hoovie is here, I think, is because you're promoting the cars that you're auctioning on cars and bids. Yes. Can you pull up the Hoovie? I desperately need some money, please. Can we start with this? All right, so, Hoovie's got four cars live right now, go bid on them, buy the cars. Three more coming. Three more coming.
Starting point is 00:29:01 What are the next three? I don't remember. The V-38 Range Rover is one. I know. I know. We got a buy-back 62. We got some sort of old car. No one knows. We got a 9-11 Carrera. Yes. Can we talk about this Cadillac?
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah. Pull up the Cadillac. Sure. Did you watch Breaking Bad? I never watched Breaking Bad. So that's not going to have any significance to you? No. I'm looking at this thing and I'm like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:29:23 Dusty old... So, literally everyone else on the planet watch Breaking Bad and will resonate with that. It's a big deal because this car was used in the climactic final battle. So he's taken out a whole team, like a whole mob boss family. Yeah. And because he mounted a machine gun in the final battle. back with a remote. And it also...
Starting point is 00:29:41 He's driving this, that Brian Cranston is driving this? Yes, he drives it to, in the last episode, to the last place where he actually is killed by this as well, like a stray bullet actually gets him. So this car is the car, like, as far as like if you're, other than the Aztec, obviously,
Starting point is 00:29:57 this is probably the one to have if you love Breaking Bad. You ever tracked down that Aztec? I have not. I don't know where the Aztec is. So this is your, this is the car, Breaking Bad car. Can we talk, since we're on Breaking Bad, can we talk about Car Wizard moving to New Mexico? And that's something. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:11 It's moving to New Mexico, to Los Cruces. I'm no offense to our viewers in Los Cruces, but I've been through there a few times. It is heartbreaking. And I thought it was going to be a little bit more of a gradual thing. The town of Los Cruces is heartbreaking. No. The movie, ladies and gentlemen, has just indicated that Los Cruces, New Mexico is heartbreaking. This is an 18-year relationship, me and Wizard, starting from Mercedes-Deels and being, like, within 30 miles of each other on a forum, going from me having a dealership to him opening a mechanic shop to the YouTube.
Starting point is 00:30:38 he is just very tired of mutant Kansas and winters, and he's worked really hard his entire life. I mean, and he's just, he's ready for a slowdown. He's old, he's not old, though. He's like 40s, but the dude's had a lot of city miles. I mean, he's had, he worked as a prison guard. He worked in machine shops, mechanicking forever. I mean, it's just, it's just harder on somebody.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And he's going to continue doing his shop. He's going to hire a mechanic down in Los Cruces and still make his videos, but he's just looking for a slower pace and, warmer weather, and he's left me in the dust. You get that Newton, Kansas is too fast-paced? I've got one more month with him, and then I'm taking over his shot back. That's Las Cruces' new tagline. Slower pace than Newton, Kansas.
Starting point is 00:31:22 I guess so. I am looking at the climate data here for Las Cruces, and it is an upgrade from Wichita. It's hot in the summer, it looks like, but they're nice winter. He's got a beautiful home, a mountain view, and pool. He's got a pool? Yes. Damn, can you imagine Wizard after a long day at the shop? Is he still going to do shop out there?
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yes. He's going to make a new shop. A long day at the shop, he gets in his pool, looks at the mountains. I was just watching. He did a video on the white, silver sarov that Hovey had and sold him for store credit. Fixed it. He was able to do what I was never able to do with my gosh. The dude is a national treasure.
Starting point is 00:31:57 So he just decided to leave. When did he start breaking the news to you that he was going to be leaving? It's been years, honestly. Oh, he's been talking about it for a long time. And he's just been every place that he would travel to. He's like, I want to live here. Like, every single place. And then you'd look at houses.
Starting point is 00:32:10 If Los Cruces ended up being the place, I'm curious. What was second place? What other places? What other places did he travel to there? Northern California, like Monterey area. He liked that a lot. Phoenix, Scottsdale was one. Briefly, 30A area, Amelia Island, Florida.
Starting point is 00:32:25 But then he's like, the Florida people, you know, kind of like when you're. And then, you know, and then it sort of, he went to Los Cruces on a random thing. And that was it. The next visit, they bought a house. And it's like, okay, the next five years we're going to go. And then within a year, he's like, I can't.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I gotta get out of Kansas. Wow. It's heartbreaking, but I mean, obviously, I've been doing the same thing for many years on my YouTube channel as far as, you know, buy the car, take it the wizard. He tells me out dumb I am, you know, he beats me over there with the bill. So now, like, it's going to force a change in my content. Well, I got a couple questions. Imagine you finally win your dream car at Cars and Beds, a pristine, gated manual supercar. But to save money on transport, you hire a cut rate hauler,
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Starting point is 00:35:22 You know what I'm saying? You kind of getting where I'm going with this? You want me to move to San Diego? Well, I'm not wondering. Like, you know, what are we doing in Wichita still? I love Wichita. Oh, okay. Okay, and that's great.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Interstate 35 corridor, there's a lot of good stuff. Yes. But where am I going to get five acres in a 6,000 square foot building that's air conditioned and all this stuff? And be in a good area, not like 30 miles out of town. A lot of people say you get a smaller prong of land, you get a smaller house, but you get a live near crazy Nick or cheapskate Nick, as you call it. Do you think that's a good trade-off? I think it's a good trade-off? What's your rent on this garage?
Starting point is 00:35:58 Because that's about the size I would need to hold all my stuff. Eight, nine hundred a month. 80,000 a month maybe. Right. No, Hubey, listen, I understand that maybe San Diego isn't necessarily the place for you. But what about Chula Vista? Yeah, Ramona.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Romona, you can get some land. Hovee, Hovee, what I'm saying to you is, what I'm saying to you is, I think we all agree that the one thing keeping you in Wichita was Car Wizard. It certainly isn't April. April is a city girl. She's, she was from Chicago,
Starting point is 00:36:28 she lived the fast life. Yeah. And there's, I have, I have children in Kansas. Okay, let's talk about that. How old are the children? They are 13 and 6. Six. Okay, so 10 years, young child is going to be probably off somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I can't imagine your children stay in Kansas. Okay. Am I wrong about that? It's possible. They're going to go to college. And even then they're not going to stay in Wichita. They're not going to go to Wichita State. Not everybody's youth.
Starting point is 00:36:56 There's, think, how many people in your high school class in Colorado are still probably in Colorado? Well, but Colorado was like a cool place that people want to be. Okay. And you know what I mean? I guess so. Your kids are going to be like, ah, you know, dad, I think I want to move to San Diego. And then what are you going to do? Or they're going to be like, wow, this is the only place I can afford to live is Kansas.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Because the cost of living everywhere else is just insane. You know where else they could live? Las Cruces. What if they move there? I guess so. I'm very happy with Phoenix Gostale. I have a lot of work there, so we got a little place. Is it possible that that may become more of a full-time situation?
Starting point is 00:37:29 It is possible, and it was a short five-hour drive to get here, which was a very nice drive. And it's a very car central kind of type of town. And there's a lot of nice things, a lot of nice restaurants, a lot of things to do. It gets very hot in the summer, obviously. That's the downside. A lot of people in Phoenix in the summer, you know where they go? Chula Vista. San Diego.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Okay. Look, all I'm saying is we want you here. Do you want to get in on this? Oh, yeah. Sell it. You're doing a great job at being pushy. It's just a matter of an invite, I suppose. I don't mind the Arizona thing and then driving out.
Starting point is 00:38:05 This is really pleasant. So whenever you want, I'm fine. I don't have to be here pimping my stuff with my pimp catac here to show up. Is it hot already in Scottsdale? It was Hades, low 90s, so not terribly. You get used to it. Do you agree he said Hades? Yeah, I heard.
Starting point is 00:38:19 I understand the implication. Yes. Okay, so this Cadillac, this Breaking Bad Cadillac you're selling, that's pretty cool. Nick, you bit, you throwing a bit or two? Not on this one, but there are a few hoovy specials. So the My Box 62, he tried to dump on me at one point. It wasn't a dump. It told you not to buy it or whatever?
Starting point is 00:38:34 No, I absolutely begged him to buy it. Quite the opposite, my friend. I'm into it, and actually, I think the price you offered it to me for is less than it will sell on the site. We'll see what happens? Because apparently there's, what, six days to go, and apparently 25-ish is that right? Where did you find this, like, country estate to shoot these photos? Oh, you know, that's what you get for Kansas, you know. This looks correct.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Mm-hmm. You know? That's my driveway. My circle drives. This is your drive. Indeed. Oh my God, let's move to Wichita. You know what? Let's stop trying to convince him to move to California. Let's move to Wichita.
Starting point is 00:39:05 We could all go around his pond and then kind of have like views of each other, like a little hippie commune. That would be great. You could all have estates for whatever, you know, your little homes here in San Diego. Nick, I will let you, I will have you know that Nick has the largest floor plan in his community. Wow. Something Doug is more proud of than I am, but he told this to us once. You brag it's 2,800 square feet, everybody. Do you brag at the community mailbox every morning?
Starting point is 00:39:35 You know, I actually, I'm 2846. You don't brag. You just walk a little bit more upright, you know? It's just a subconscious vibe. So this is V12. Yes. Why are we selling this? It's got the partition.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Yeah, I know. That's the big deal, which, yeah, we should probably put partition up in the title because that's a big value ad. Also, a big reason why a lot of the partition cars leave the country so it can end up with some dictator, you know, getting driven around in, you know, after or something like that. So this one's always, this one's always been. It's only got like a hundred and seven thousand miles.
Starting point is 00:40:02 That's the downside. So I bought it. Looks like a Texas window sticker then. Yeah. So I bought it at auction in Houston. Yeah. And it was a guy who owned a chain of liquor stores. And he was driven this thing to his chain of liquor stores.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I don't know if he was sampling the products, that's why I need to be driven. That's why I had the miles. But he took it to the dealer for everything. Like it was kept up. And so this thing, like, it'll sit for a month. And that's the reason why I'm selling it. It's like for the past year, nothing.
Starting point is 00:40:24 It hasn't moved. You don't use it. April tour her ACL when we were skiing, and I basically chauffeur in that for months, and that was the last time it got used because she could recline in the back and stretch her legs out. What's the reason you use it?
Starting point is 00:40:34 It's too big to be practical. So the partition for me at 6'3-it-3, it's hard to get comfortable in that because the walls right there. Yeah. So as far as for a daily driving experience. What's the problem with any partition car? But it's not bad.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I daily drove the thing forever, took it to California and the through all the other things. You can't talk the boxes after a while. You're going to toss a bit in? Things huge. What's the problem with that? Well, I don't got a lot of space. Some of us don't live in Las Cruces.
Starting point is 00:40:58 You know what your real problem would be? Seriously, it would probably mess up your driveway. How heavy is this car? Oh, it's heavy. Is it 10,000 pounds? No, no. Is it seven? It's got to be lighter than most EVs.
Starting point is 00:41:09 It's, but it's a real my book. That's the thing. It's not a rebadged something else. This is, when these cars came out, I found the styling to be so underwhelming. And now I look at that and just like, holy crap. Like that is just such a, it's so subtle but noticeable, Especially the long ones. I still find the 57s to be underwhelming.
Starting point is 00:41:28 The long ones have this. The presence is insane. Yes. Yeah. But it was... It's almost kind of an FU also. Like, I've chosen not to be in a phantom and have that. Instead, I've got this sort of more subtle flex.
Starting point is 00:41:41 It was $450,000. That was the big problem. $450,000 or whatever the year is. This is a $4. This is a $750,000 car in today's money. I mean, it's wild. It ain't got to call for that, that's for sure. And the S-class got redesigned.
Starting point is 00:41:55 and they did a great job with that redesign. So you had these two sitting next to each other. And it was just like the new S class, so cool looking. This looks like the older S class. So nobody bought it. Obviously, in the recession they killed it. Basically had the wheels from the old S class, the same design. The design was fairly similar.
Starting point is 00:42:10 And then the mistake they made, of course, was that 07S class. They kind of made it look like this, the rear end and all that, except better, honestly. Yes. And then same with the electronics on the inside. The 07 update was what this had all the older, you know, older pixels and like the cluster and the stereo, click on that interior,
Starting point is 00:42:28 the stereo and all that stuff. So it just looked dated. You ever been in one of these? No. There's wood, there's like, the steering wheel buttons are wood. Rippled wood. Everything is... The steering wheel buttons are wood.
Starting point is 00:42:38 It's insane. It's funny because they're like, if you're 10 feet away, it still looks like an S class. Yeah. And the closer you get the more changes you notice. Yep. So... Look at Alcantara on the side of the seat.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Why? There are some big money, 62. If it's an S partition, it can be a quarter million. car. Really? They, they, they, they, they've been some 10,000 mile cars that have sold for that much. So it, this one obviously being 107,000 miles, it's not going to be, I'd love it to be a six-figure car, but it's, it's not going to be, that's the thing, if you want to use it,
Starting point is 00:43:08 but the partition thing, so if it's going to end up with an African warlord or something like that, it'll be fun, but you know, that's where a lot of them end up going. You think it might ship. Go back to the rest of the hoovie cars. We got this Packard, we don't need to get into that. And then. What's wrong with a Packard? I know you don't like the older stuff as much, but a pack.
Starting point is 00:43:24 The Packard was the other one with the electrical incident? It's original paint. This is an old, very old car. This car's a hundred years old movie. It's original paint. You driving this thing around? I've driven it a little bit. It's had a thermal incident similar to the S.L.
Starting point is 00:43:38 McLaren, I had to fix the wiring, so it had a small thermal incident. So I got a reward. Why do you get a 997? So the 997, unfortunately, I got scammed on this one pretty bad. So full disclosure, this thing has a clean Carfax. Is that a Massachusetts license plane? Yes, it came from Massachusetts Okay, you never titled it
Starting point is 00:43:56 I got an email from a fan Well, I got dealer's license because it would be crazy So a Boston Whaler dealer emailed me and said Hey, I got this 997 on trade I put 200 miles on it changed oil It seems good You want it? Well, I sent me some pictures
Starting point is 00:44:08 Says the paint's fading but the engine seems fine Sure, okay, I buy it for About 25,000 shipped to my door I started it up, it is billowing smoke On the back cylinder scored You know, it's 30 grand to rebuild the guy No, I didn't even I don't even mess that anymore.
Starting point is 00:44:23 He just left a few passive-aggressive comments on YouTube. As you do. I know, I mean, because truly if he's a boat dealer, he may not know. But, I mean, every single light was on, the suspension's messed up, the brakes. Oh, he got traded it on a boat. I see. Correct. Imagine doing that.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Be like, will you take a beat 997 on a whaler? People trade boats on cars, I'm sure this happened in Kansas. Right. People trade boats and RVs on cars all day. I mean, not constantly, but in certain parts of the country, in Minnesota, you expect to get ATVs offered, all that stuff. So the car was her desk. to fix this car, $56,000. And that's before cosmetics,
Starting point is 00:44:55 because this thing needs to repaint, and the bumper's hanging off and all that stuff. Well, 56 a new motor. A rebuilt motor is about 30 grand on these things. So, I, you know, I'm gonna lose, I'm sure, thousands on it, but the thing is, you're selling it as a project. Did you fix it?
Starting point is 00:45:09 No, no, that's the thing. This is, because it's a no-hit car, it can be somebody's track beter, they can do the L-Swap thing, they can, there's all case-swaps, there's all this thing, but they could make, because it's not a hit car, It could be a really good track car. Or if somebody wants to be the first person to restore a 997, you know, tinker in their garage.
Starting point is 00:45:26 And Porsche people are so nuts. Like, I've seen their cylinder scored 997s. There's one recently in 084S and a different auction site. And it sold for 44,000 with cylinder scoring, needing a 30 grand engine refill. Like, that's how crazy Porsche people are. Wait a minute. Did you say there are K swaps?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah. People are doing that? In these? Yes. And the Audi, another one is like the Audi 2.7 turbo. No way. That's even worse! Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Good luck with that. Water pump goes out. So what's it at right now? What do you expect this to go to? It's at 15. I mean, it can't be much higher than that. Probably not. Probably not.
Starting point is 00:46:00 So I'm going to lose, I imagine, yeah, over $5,000 on this thing. And yeah, it just, it sucks. Because I haven't bought 9-11 in a long time. And so it is what it is. I made sure I went through the video, and I made sure I got everything, because it's probably the longest list of disclosures. It's probably the worst 9-9-7 you guys have ever had on your side.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Probably. But it's obviously it's close that way. There's a market for it. industry we say there's a but for every seat there's a but for every seat someone will want it for the exact purposes that you describe um i did off camera philippo offered to buy your wheels off you from that if if you don't want it they'll trade for some gunmetal ones these are these are dot one wheels yeah i know but they would look better they would look better what he's got now yeah um can i can we talk about why there was a fire sale you know every year around this time we uh why is it around
Starting point is 00:46:50 this time. We get all excited. It was usually before April 15th. Mid-April. Because, usually Hovi gets into a situation where he can't pay his taxes and he's got to sell a bunch of cars. And you know, he says that I make fun of him for it, but I was thinking about it today when I was shooting that RX-7. Really, it's just an alternate savings account. Like, what do I do when it's tax time? I take some money on my savings account and pay the IRS. What does he do? He sells some cars pay the IRS. It's the same base When you're a mid-sized business, you need every competitive
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Starting point is 00:48:00 It is, normally it wasn't an issue, and I would pay my quarter lease. It was just home renovation got out of control before, and that smoked me. And then I made a mistake on my taxes with the Veyron, where I structured it as a lease. So when I traded the Kuntosh towards it, I thought I could roll in all that money. onto the Veyron because it's a lease, I could only write off a quarter of that trade in a year. So even though I sold the Kuntosh for a bunch of money, hundreds of thousands of dollars, I had to pay
Starting point is 00:48:26 the capital gains on it, even though I got no money. It's a complicated tax thing, but, so that was like the surprise extra $150,000 for the gains because I was zero into the Kuntage because I bought it with the Diablo, sold the Diablo. So like, so it was, that was like a, oh crap, the year before that, it was
Starting point is 00:48:42 home. Last year it was the mistake with the taxes. So this year I had it all figured out. Can I stop you real quick? go back before you get into this. You are, you're taking, you're taking capital gains on these cars. Yes. You're declaring that? Well, come on.
Starting point is 00:48:56 You? Yes. Freddie is not declaring capital gains on car. Well, I imagine most people aren't, but I'm, am I wrong? No comment. I incriminate myself enough. No, on that, where I sell a car for, uh, whatever it was close to half a million bucks. And I had zero into it because I was like, you think that you would let that, you would let that go and risk
Starting point is 00:49:18 Me, no. Okay. You, I'm truly astonished. What's the IRS looking at state registration records? Do you know what they do if they catch you for tax evasion in Kansas? They ship you to lock Cruces in New Mexico. Are you implying the car wizard is a tax evader? Nice thing, I can't spend 90 days in a white-collar prison like that's not worth it.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Look at that face. No, no. Although now that you're not as handsome as you used to be, maybe it's okay. I'm aging badly now. Ryan Lopez in prison. Now that would be a much off. Yeah, that would be terrible. Okay. So, anyway.
Starting point is 00:49:48 So because of that, so you, but this year, so those were tough tax years. This year, this year, I mean, it cleaned me out, but I made it. I did not need to do the April, you know, dump everything, but I was good. Which upset us here at Cars and Bids for two reasons. Number one, we rely on a steady stream of no reserve cars from Hoovey to pay our bills in April. Yes, except I didn't do it last year and then the guy, you know, flip that elder rod, which you gave me hell for. You know, so I sold an L-Rod for $15, and then the guy sold it. flipped it for $50,000 something thousand dollars.
Starting point is 00:50:20 So, yes. I honestly and truly believe that if that dude, the Geneva Motor Car's guy had sold it with us and I did a video, he would have gotten even more. I think he probably would have gotten 67. Well, it's possible. I would have hand it up in that video because that was, to me, those things are so cool, concept car.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Anyway, so we didn't get the tax time this year, but we are getting it anyway. You're getting it anyway because, yeah, I get all of my responsibility ducks in a row and then blew the goal wing motor on the way to the car show. So, look, I want to talk about. about the Gulling motor blowing. And I want to address something
Starting point is 00:50:52 that has been brought up in comments. You seem to be a little reticent to bring it up in the videos, and I want to talk about the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center. Okay. I do. That's where it was going. So Mercedes-Benz, our favorite auto brand. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Agree. Oh, wow, you're going to agree, too. I'm on the wagon. He's got the Nair swap wagon. It's awesome. And the fire damage that's all right, yeah. Scorched. Mercedes-Benz.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Blown fuse. Unlike a lot of other automakers, such as Audi, which is Nick's favorite brand. Audi doesn't have any parts for their old cars. It's impossible to get anything done. Correct. Mercedes-Benz has this classic center where you bring them a car and they will fix literally anything
Starting point is 00:51:31 except for the two years where they did the radar keys, which I have in my G-Wagon. And you took in there, but they're especially known for their gall wings. Correct. Like people bring, they're in Long Beach, and there are Long Beach locals who will, like, bring them an assortation.
Starting point is 00:51:48 class to do like regular work because the classic center stamp on the receipt is really a big deal. But they mostly do goalings. I went in there. There were like 12 gollings. Right. So I they opened up this in the United States in 2006 or seven. It was in Irvine at first. Right by my grandparents lived in Costa Mesa. So I'd just go in there and drool. Oh my god. So they moved the Long Beach to the old kind of airport area and it's a big warehouse or Mercedes has their cars coming in and it's an amazing facility. It's beautiful, incredible facility. Beautiful facility with beautiful cars. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:21 It is interesting to me, though. You're looking at me, like, what's he going to say? You're not thinking this? This isn't in your mind. How much did you drop at the Mercedes-Benz Classic Center on this vehicle? A year ago, six months ago? They were very kind to me and offered a discount in exchange for the content. But it was close to not quite six figures.
Starting point is 00:52:43 You spent six figures on that car when you bought it. Well, no. It's been well. Seven on the car. And that was, when we had that 993 300 S.L meet on the highway randomly, I just bought the 993. So it was October, I think. So that's, if I'm doing my math, seven months, you spend 100 grand, and now the engine's blown.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Right. I'm just laying out the facts. I'm like Joe Rogan. I'm just, I'm just asking questions, ma'am. So when they woke up the engine after its 10-year slumber, the compression was a little borderline. The oil consumption was somewhat high. It is an older engine. They were like, hey, let's drive it, see if it comes back a little bit
Starting point is 00:53:21 because it's been sitting for a while. But it was always like a, man, you might get a few more years out of this thing. Oh, really? So this was known. The fuel system needed to be complete. I think of a car, any old car, the Mercedes fuel system on these things, it's direct injection. It is very complicated and weird, and that all needed to be fixed and brought back to life.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And they do that stuff. That is what they are good at. The drums, the brakes, 30 grand. They were out of spec. So that was a thing that was nice for them. to give me the drums. And then I go and burn up the drums that I had just replaced on a rally
Starting point is 00:53:50 because I left the handbrake on for like 30 miles. You remember that? Yep. I think about that all the time. So I had to... I've done it too, thankfully never on a car of that value. I had to spend for the two drums. I had to buy that.
Starting point is 00:54:01 That was on me. So, you know, and there was a lot of things that needed to be done. Also, the rear main was pouring out on it. The transmission needed to come out to be re-sealed. They had not done that yet. But, I mean, there was just, just think of a car that's...
Starting point is 00:54:13 It was restored probably in the 80s. but then sat for a decade. So it just needed to do everything. And I don't think it was unreasonable, given their facilities and everything else, and they actually took care of me. So, no, this wasn't their fault at all. That's interesting color, and I appreciate hearing that.
Starting point is 00:54:30 That actually redeems them in my mind, except I noticed the car is not back at the classic center. So now the engine has blown. We need a new bottom end or top end or both, God knows. Right. But you didn't take it back there. How come? Because they do not do the machinery.
Starting point is 00:54:46 and the actual rebuilding there. They will take the engine out. They will take it apart. They will put it back in and tune it and do all that stuff. But they don't, so they used to send it to, I think, an outfit called metric motors, very well-known Mercedes Rebuilder.
Starting point is 00:54:58 They don't do the Gold Wing's engines anymore. The current outfit, I think, is called Ed Pink, and they build the singer engines. They are in California. I guess they are the best of the best. It makes sense why Mercedes sent it to them, but they are probably the most expensive engine-building machine shop in the country.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And this is an older car from the 50s. At its principle, rebuilding the engine is not difficult. So I could tell him classic, hey, you take the engine out for me, send it to a cheaper machine shop. No, it's better to have one shop, handle it, and this is where our friend at DC Motorworks. DC Motorworks has a machine shop and they'll do this stuff? So he's very close to his machinist, and they're going to, so they'll send it off to the machinist, but then they'll build it themselves. They have one tech that has experience with Goalings. And it just in this instance, I think it makes sense to do it this way because it's not Classic Center.
Starting point is 00:55:45 They would help me out, but they're outsourcing the rebuild to a different job. Should we be thinking of DC Motorworks as an alternative classic center? Let me rephrase. DC Motorworks, rebuilding Goldwing Motors, putting manuals in E55s, are they better than the classic center? Well, I think the facts you laid out earlier would maybe make it seem that you pay up for the classic center and you may still have issues. I mean, it's old car stuff. If you took your E55 wagon to the classic center, put a manual, they say, no, no. I don't think they would do that.
Starting point is 00:56:14 We don't do that. No. We don't do manuals. You take a DC Motorworks, put a manual. Oh, yeah. Let's pull a manual out of a C200. Those guys, they will do anything you ask. I said, I want a third row. They literally went on Facebook Marketplace that night, bought a car, took it in, swapped it out, and then sold the donor car. Like, they did all of that for you as a service. But D.C. is getting... Classic Center ain't going on Facebook Marketplace for you. Actually, actually, they did. A funny story that, so when they were talking about Made in America, all that stuff we were talking about earlier. They wanted to show that Mercedes builds cars in America, and they were going to do a big thing about the anniversary of the ML. So Mercedes goes to U.S. Classic and said, we need to find an ML, a nice one. Facebook Marketplace is the right place. So they actually went on Marketplace in California and found an ML to buy, to ship to, you know, to Alabama for the big press release.
Starting point is 00:57:05 It's like, yeah, we've been building in America forever, you know, the political climate currently. So they actually have done that a little bit. That's amazing. And DC Motorworks is getting the parts from the classic center. All the stuff, the piston rings, all the, all the things, like, it is coming from there. They're making the parts. And this is the coolest thing about Mercedes-Benz. And one of the big reasons why I still am a big fan of owning old ones, all these parts are available.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah, you can get them. And that Mercedes is willing to sell the parts to others. So, like, Matt Armstrong and this whole Veyron as well as Sharon Briebelts, Vagotti won't even sell you the parts if you wanted to install it yourself. So that Mercedes is like, yeah, an indie shop in Atlanta, no problem. go. Yeah. Thank you for your business, which is how they should be doing. Totally. Obviously. That's really cool. Love that Mercedes-Benz models and Porsches are still supported that way. And honestly, are Fred the Kuntash? Yes.
Starting point is 00:57:54 You miss yours? No. I had my fun, Doug. You talked about this in your video how you wouldn't keep things forever. I had it for four plus years. I did everything I wanted to do. Did you for four plus years? Yeah. Damn. Not the fanboy. I love the new content direction you have where you've gotten back to your roots of hoopties. Out of necessity. You don't really. own, other than the going, any supercars at the moment? Is that fair? AMG GTS. Yeah, borderline and the Lotusis Pri V8, when that thing's going.
Starting point is 00:58:20 But both of those weren't a hoopty's as you bought them, or at least rough around the edges. They weren't like a Kuntosh. I think the Sbris V8 will scratch the edge of the Kuntash very closely and be slightly more comfortable. I think that car is a very good, like, bargain Kuntash replacement kind of thing. The design, like I think so many things about that car are so cool. And the V8, the turbo ones are really a lot of fun, the late cars. And this is yellow. It's the roadster version with no roof.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Like, it's the one who is permanent. Well, it's permanent. I found a roof for it, but yes. Do you, what are you going to do after Wizard goes? So, this isn't quite announced yet, but it looks like we're going to be taken over his shop. You are. His mechanics are staying in place. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I might be making a go of some kind of dealership again to offset, to make sure the mechanic shop is busy and hopefully pay the rent to where this might actually be an enterprise that isn't like a, a multiple six-figure stuff to the car wizard. Who's garage is going to become an actual garage? Like, I could send my P-38 there and you would do an oil change? Yep, yep. Would you go on Facebook Marketplace from it? This is, we are in the idea phase, and it's fleshed out, and actually there's a business plan that somewhat makes sense, so it's very likely.
Starting point is 00:59:27 What do you mean you're thinking about doing a dealership again? You can't sell cars. You're going to be on four right now. Look what I can do. I can put them on cars and bids. Hoovee, you're busy. Well, I have. He's already got.
Starting point is 00:59:40 dealer places. You have Kenan that reps cars for people all the time. So, like, we'll have a couple people in there that could rep the cars. I can pop in for things. Don't you think you're going to get a ton of internet time wasters? Of course, but then so does his car wizard. Car Wizards has over a million subscribers at this point. He has a Google your phone call up at any time kind of business phone line. He has somebody that answers the phone. That is his full-time job to basically, like, I want to talk to the car wizard. And car wizard used to say 15 minutes to talk on the phone, talk about your car problems for like 50 bucks, and he quit doing it because it was just like, it was just too much. You know, so then people actually got mad.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Like, wait, I have to pay $50 dollars to the car wizard because especially a lot of older people, they don't understand that like, they think that they're watching YouTube and then there's like some entitlement. They, like, they, they're owed like conversations and time and hang out things. It is unbelievable when older people come up to me on the street, they just think that like, yeah, like they're the only ones who are watching me. Right. Like young people are very respectful of my time.
Starting point is 01:00:39 whatever, old people think that they can, and it's like, you know, this is like kind of like TV. And I don't mind and I talk to it, but it is surprising. It's always the older people. Like they really have this thinking that like they're the only ones and that I'm just a guy. Yeah. Who's like, who's like probably not many people. I can't believe he got recognized. It's like, you know, actually.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Well, in Kansas people, it's a lot more casual too. And so the boomers will, the thing is okay to just pull up my driveway during family dinner and say, hey, I want to sell this car where you think I should do it and all that stuff. And I don't mind it. What is that about? That's so insane. It's just, and in Kansas, you know, it's a little bit more of that, you know, neighbors just kind of knock on the door. So the culture's kind of, especially of that age. And it doesn't bother me, obviously, from a time suck standpoint.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Yeah, that's the real problem. I have to, like, I would have to figure out, like, where someone would just have that business phone to answer. And like, no, Tyler's not here. It's just that, it could work. And also, it's in Newton, and there's a lot of farm stuff out there, like, just going to the auctions and buying these farm trucks that people, people can use. It seems like there's a need there for me having a hoopty lot, which is something I did 10 years ago. Right. So it also will scratch the itch for me a little bit of like this I got to buy a car kind of junky thing. Like I get to go to the dealer auctions
Starting point is 01:01:51 again and hunt hoopties, which I very much enjoy. Yeah. So it might make sense. Wow. I would take my car to Hoovies garage for service. That's you will not do that. It's very far away. Well, I mean if I were local. If I were in Kansas. Wizard, you know, he's getting a little arthritic and like he has this guy Danielson that would stick around and he's doing the bulk of the work on the cars anyway. The car wizard has been very good now at like, you know, diagnosing and figuring things out. But as far as like, like turn the wrenches, less and less of that these days. And it's just just from age. It's just, it just happens, you know. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. But he's still going to have a shop though. This is big news. This should have been the first slide in
Starting point is 01:02:32 the car news section. This is all massive stuff. We got the scoop. I'm looking on this up. So he's up in Newton. That's pretty, it's like an hour. It's 30 minutes from me. I didn't realize it was so far away. Do you ever get people, does he ever get people come up from Northern Oklahoma? You ever get Ponca City people come up? Not so much, but so the funny thing is the way that he... What about still water?
Starting point is 01:02:50 He's had people in his garage, so he has, you know, he has a kind of an aircraft hangar style door on one side and then a big garage. And when he opens it up during the summer, because in my videos, I just drive in and people think that that's normal. So then they'll come through, drive in to the mill to shop. get out and go, Weezard, fix my car. And he's like, what the heck are you doing? Like, this is not how it works.
Starting point is 01:03:13 And there's been times where, like, families have gone on a road trip and drive through, like, it's an attraction and just drive through, wave, drive out, and go. So, like, so it's a very odd thing. It does, some of the disrespect surprises me sometimes. But it's not, it's not intentional. It's just like they think that that's how the, it actually works for his business where people can like. But he's running a business. Like, he's working.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Like, like, you know. Calling up and tying up the phone lines and stuff, I mean, that must be really difficult for him sometimes. Well, that's why he had a full-time office guy. But even to have to hire a full-time office guy. It's pretty normal for a McClare shop to have a receptionist. But that guy's probably on the phone all day with Randos from calling in from Canada to Florida. And he's got a list and he'll just, and he knows at this point where like, I've had this car sitting for 30 years on with the Wizard of Get Running.
Starting point is 01:04:02 And it was just like, no, I'm not doing like, these people that want to want to be one of the, miracles and also sometimes people will just ship cars to him they show up and like these three shops couldn't figure it out and it's like a range rover with a timing chain that's come off and it's you know just ruined it's like this is it's a it's a 500 dollar range rover that's going to be 20 grand to fix and like it just it just left out there how often do you get people emailing you randomly all the time that's the 9-9-7 that's how i bought it like the packard that's how i bought it yeah is it is it just a And so you kind of like pick and tree. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:36 He doesn't even have to go on marketplace. He gets marketplace delivered to a personal way. But there are cars that can't be sold on Facebook marketplace because they're too bad, like a blown motor 9-9-7. The escalade that I drove here with this triumphant horse I met two days ago, this escalade that's incredible. There was a dealer buddy that knew I am crazy for these things and just bought it. How long you spend each year in Scottsdale?
Starting point is 01:04:59 Well, I guess be about a week for every six weeks. S-B about, yeah. So you spent 60-year time there, 20% of your time, 15-20% of your time? Yes. Away from all your cars.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Away from, I have two cars, I have two-car garage. Let me guess. Audi R-S-E-Tron G-T. No. O-5 Escalade and a Fiatheathe
Starting point is 01:05:18 $5. Hovey's two-car solution is an O-5 escalate when forced to pare it down to two. The neighbors have no idea that he's in a car's based on that garage. The garage is open and like, some guy.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Traffic. O-5 escalate. Everybody in Phoenix area He's got a 05 escalate. Well, the garage is very small. So the escalate just barely fits. And then you have to have the garbage cans inside. So it's like, what's something with a backseat that's fun?
Starting point is 01:05:41 Yeah. And would fit in there. And that's pretty much it. You have the garbage cans is an HOA. Correct. Not like Kansas. We can do whatever we want. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Yes. I do think it's a great idea. And you could take, like, fast and loud had like public shop that you could go visit. They're like a merch store open. You could get pictures with the cars. So if you're going to sell cars anyways and you're getting foot traffic with people that are uninvite. It's a good idea. Turn it into an attraction.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah. Up there in, where was it, Newton? Newton, Kansas. Where are you, Sedgwick? It is Butler in Andover. I don't see those on the map. I'm going to assume it's Valley Center. So you're in Valley Center.
Starting point is 01:06:15 It's east of Wichita. Oh, it's east. Oh, I didn't realize you were out there. Oh, wow. So you got like a drive to get to the wizard there. It's 30 minutes. Yeah, but it's like a drive. The cars don't always make it if you watch his YouTube channel.
Starting point is 01:06:26 It's kind of part of the fun. What is this freeway here that goes up in the northeast section at Wichita there? Between 35 and 1,000. 35. What's that all called? There's K-96, the loop around there, 235. Yeah, is that what that is? For some reason, it doesn't say. Right off where, Greenwich Road, you ever, you ever driving on that in Greenwich Road right there and you stop at the... We call it Greenwich in Kansas, so we're not too close to this. Yes. Everybody says, Greenwich. All right, so you're up off Greenwich, right? You ever go to the Texas Roadhouse up there?
Starting point is 01:06:54 All the time. Really? Yes. Damn, that's great. The rolls. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's how lovely is that. If I, you, you ever, uh, you ever go off of Let's see what else. You ever go to the Carabas there off a North Rock Road? No, no. Go see the 15th. Oh, you mean that.
Starting point is 01:07:10 We can skip the listener questions and just go through all the restaurants. There's also a Fazoles there. I don't know what you prefer. It's near the airport. I got food poisoning from that Fizzoles. I remember Fizzolet. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Mm-hmm. Yep. God. So you go to the Fizzolos, then you go to the Sam's Club. This is great. Exactly. Stuff up there.
Starting point is 01:07:24 This is thrilling. People really don't care about the name of this. No, Kansas. Let me tell you some. Our Wichita contention, which is significant. They're going to be watching this, and they're going to say, yes, I go to that Fazzoli's. I work at that Fizzoli.
Starting point is 01:07:38 They're going to say, this is incredible. Yes. Right here in Cedric County. I want to make sure there's time for listener questions. But I think we got a ton of listener questions for Hoosby. I think we got to talk to the other three cars you're selling. So Blackwood, right? Lincoln Blackwood, which we want, right?
Starting point is 01:07:52 Should we split it? It's probably rough as hell. It's his car. No, it definitely. It had a head gasket blow. No, I just did the head gaskets on it. So that was the one thing with it. But it's actually a tailgate work.
Starting point is 01:08:00 The tailgate works? It was a California truck? Does it be in the face and tell me the tailgate works? Navigation. It works perfectly. The navigation has a few dead pixels in it, but it does the softer, softer, louder. Yeah, never what you want? I know, I know.
Starting point is 01:08:12 You ever see the nav? It's this ridiculous screen and four buttons. By the cup holders down in the center console. Yeah. Yeah, it was just a thing you tacked in and had nothing to do with the center. You take your eyes completely off the road by you. And four buttons. There's no like keypad.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Like, every, presumably you have to like scroll over, tap. Okay. And the Lincoln. which we bought on cars and bits, so now it's being cut back loose. April's car. Yes. What's April Daly's right now, the Model X a lot of the time, but she is definitely, she has her Grand National, the GNX and then the El Camino Grand National thing.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Yeah, she rocks those a lot. These are 129 as well, 90s. She's, but she's driven daily in a Model X? Model X. She likes electric. She doesn't like going to the gas station. You don't have a gas pump out there on your farm? No, no, it would be a good idea, especially with all these older cars and the ethanol not
Starting point is 01:09:00 Nick's dad's on a farm, he's got his own gas pump. He does, actually. What's that about? Come on. It's common, I need to do that for sure. Is that on your list? It is definitely on the list where I can get some 93, no ethanol for some of these older cars that would run a lot better. Like the Gold Wing, for example, does not like the ethanol when it gets heated up, because it sits right on the block, the injection pump, and if it gets a little hot and vapor locky, then it just gets weird.
Starting point is 01:09:22 So... When are you going to repair the oil that you spilled on my garage, on my driveway from the Galway? from the goalway. Sorry. Sorry. Did you have some kitty litter? I can take care of it tonight. Really?
Starting point is 01:09:36 Yes. I'll go buy some kitty litter. I've got to get a video of Hoovie dropping kitty litter. I've actually found that like Don dish soap does just as well as kick litter. You know what? I actually truly legitimately, I like the oil spots because they make me think of Hoovy. I'm not even screwing with you. My kids are out there drawn chalk and I see there's only a few and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:09:53 Hoovey was here. The reason... That came from a Galway. I had to drive it in anger to keep up with you. and it was pouring out of that rear main. Yes. Gulling oil is a flex. Okay, so you're selling a Link in Blackwood.
Starting point is 01:10:05 You're interested in this? Oh, yeah. When he bought it in Bear Jackson's cut sale and I went home empty-handed, I wanted to buy it off of him then, and thankfully I didn't because it had a blown head gasket. That's the big fatal flaw with that engine, and somebody for 10 years just kept pouring stop leak in it. It was taking it apart.
Starting point is 01:10:20 That's that 4.6-liter. That was a good motor? Or 5.4-Lead? It was that V8. It's a 5-4, but it's the 32-valve. It's the better performance. But there is the head gasket thing, and it was an issue early. And it's, I mean, it was three grand to do.
Starting point is 01:10:34 It's not an insane to do, but somebody just didn't do it forever and just kept pouring it. And it just, you know, the stop leak basically goes through and it coats the spot where it's going. And how much buildup through this engine. It was unbelievable, like how long somebody was rocking it that way. And then they took it to Barrett Jackson, of all places. Yeah. What else he's selling? That 91, the town car.
Starting point is 01:10:55 And then the P-38. And then the P-38 Range Rover. I know. You've been on the town? He is selling the P-38 because he'd rather drive a Jeep. The Wagonier. Can you? Come on.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Anybody who spent any time around a P-38 doesn't want anything to do with it. That's why they're all abandoned. Don't you feel kind of the same way about a Jeep Wagoner? What Wagoner, 901? It's an 89 Wagoner, and it's... I would rather have an 89 Wagoner to a level that is impossible for me to describe using English words than a P-38 Rangover. has the chrome Mondiol wheels.
Starting point is 01:11:29 It is beautiful. But you park the two next to each other as far as like an old school, heavy, clunky off-roader type thing. And you just, you get in the wagoneer. That's what it's been ever since they showed up. For British royalty and one is for people who have cousins that are also
Starting point is 01:11:42 their sisters. No, dude, an 89 wagon ear, are you out of your mind? Do you know who's... You're crazy. Yeah, they're like 100K restomots. The base ones are... No, regular ones. Make farm tractors look well equipped. You are insane.
Starting point is 01:11:56 experienced it because it does actually have a nice ride. Yeah, there is, you want like a pillowy soft. The 89, that generational wagonneer, which was the last carbureted car ever to exist in regular form in America, it just is the last, to me, the last bastion of driving a 50s car. It is a, it is a overstuffed seat. It is an incredibly floaty ride. You look out over a giant hood with a hood ornament. It feels like the old, like the doctor is driving his. family to the mountains for a ski trip.
Starting point is 01:12:28 It's going to yell at the mom. And decent utility. It has low range. I mean, it's not anything like today, but I mean, decent utility. I'll give you a point on the hood ornament, but if your battery dies, does the car beep at you and say, Windows not set? I mean, there's a lot of features in the B-38 your message. It is surprised me that you haven't pursued a Grand Wagon here.
Starting point is 01:12:47 That car... They're too much money. They're pieces of turns for like $40K plus. So the first one I ever bought, it was like my 24th birthday, and it was $4,500 with 80,000 miles on. It would be $100,000 car today. I flipped it on eBay for like eight and thought I was the smartest guy on the planet. And now it's a hundred thousand dollar car.
Starting point is 01:13:06 So this one, it's really nice. It just paints a little faded. It's blue. It's a vinegar blue. So I'll go through, and it's not the lighter blue. Oh, it's the dark blue. It's the dark blue. So I'll go through repaint, read or you the wood.
Starting point is 01:13:17 And then it's probably like a $50,000 rig that I got for 20s. So am I going to have me swap it? No. But the 360s. Maybe maybe an SRT? I've considered, remember they had, there was that one that was Hell's Colins had one. I like legit considered it.
Starting point is 01:13:33 That went over six figures though. No, they were selling it on their website. We don't know what to think for it. I want to say we saw a price somewhere. It was like 80 to 100. Some of them later tried to flip it or something. But that'd be cool. Yeah, that would be cool.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Dude, I'm all for that. Sell a P38, keep a wagon. I agree with you. If I was walking up to those two cars sitting there, I would pick the chief. Because they scratch the same inch. That's the thing. And the moment I got the Wagonier home,
Starting point is 01:13:57 the P38 never moved again. Yes. You missed out on a seminal auto motive experience. That's okay. We'll let it slide. We've talked auction cars. We've talked Goldwing. I want to move on.
Starting point is 01:14:08 We're not going to get to the market report. I'm so sorry. We're not going to get to anything else. I want to move on to the questions because there's questions in here for Hoovey. Okay. Questions are brought to you by Hoovey's Garage, which now is going to be an actual garage.
Starting point is 01:14:21 You heard it here first. Maybe. Hey, I'm trying to save the announcement for my channel. You may just go ahead the announcement. on our channel. We need the money. Okay, Hoovie, we did a post. You can ask questions if you want. You go to Carsandbids.com, you click
Starting point is 01:14:33 on the community tab. There's questions. There's a questions thing. It's great. Hoovie, we made a post a couple days ago because we remembered you were coming. And we said, oh my God, we got to do Hoovey questions. So people have run in with a bunch of hoovy questions, and I got a bunch of them, and they're great.
Starting point is 01:14:49 First question from... Hopefully not about my personal life. Some of them are. Great. First question from cartism is the bestism. Hoovie, is Doug a maniac, or does he just seem like one on camera? No, you're not a maniac at all. You're very rational. It's just you're very unfiltered, which even before all of your success and all of these things,
Starting point is 01:15:10 even when you were a struggling rider and all that stuff, you still had this kind of bluntness to you that most people don't have, and I think it's probably gotten a little worse. What would be worse? I think it's the best thing I have. I'm the only person who's doing new car content who actually will tell the truth. That is true. That is true. No offense everybody out there who I believe in. Let me ask you this question. Do you think Nick is a maniac? Yes. Totally.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Hold on. No, I want to time into the original question. You are absolutely maniac. If I ever go missing and they look through my text messages, the number of times you threaten death, beheading, physical harm, other kinds of harm. I will be like 10 minutes late to something. and the text strings that I get for you, it'll be seven in a row. Don't be late. Oftentimes, I'm a busy man.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Oftentimes, I will send those texts because I am hoping that you will show up because there are people that are at the thing that we are going to together that I do not want to be with. And I need Nick there. This is Ryan Lopez, too. He's my emotional support, Ryan Lopez. The Human Shield. I love that role.
Starting point is 01:16:17 As well as your de facto backdoor DMer, where people would be like, hey, do this for, I'm like, I'm not, I'm not his boy. Definitely did not ever want anybody to do that. I think you, the ultimate irony is you love to introduce people as they're crazy or they're insane. But you think it's you. I would argue that in order to do this profession, you got little insight. You got it to be entertaining. None of us, I think I'm the least insane personally.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Well, that is. But none of us, that's maybe debatable, but none of us are normal. You're just fortunate that all of the choices that you made were right. You think that was luck? And that helped. Do you think that was luck? Obviously, some of this is luck, where we are today. You've even said this in videos before.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Yeah. But if there were a few mistakes in there that might have humbled you some, maybe it would have been better for your personality. I don't know. I think that in order to do this job, there's a little bit of insanity that goes on just even to try it, you know? and to get to this level and to just continue doing and entertaining people and dealing with all the stuff the stuff that comes
Starting point is 01:17:26 but he never threatened me so I'm kind of like Doug's original side tick kick I would say as far as the auto trader days and all that stuff I would never would threaten who you also threatened to sell humans for like minor things like a chocolate chip cookie what did I say I would self on this pot
Starting point is 01:17:40 I said I would sell loop over something it was probably like a toothpick because you had something stuck in your teeth there was never any abuse I don't remember any of this. So now you have a whole posse and, like, I mentioned that you guys like to go swimming together and all this stuff. You know, and it's kind of cultish.
Starting point is 01:17:57 You know, so, like, it's interesting. On this subject, the next question is. But no, you're not a maniac at all. You're getting in the pool at this tonight, right? Daniel Gregory writes, Hi, Hoovey, if you could steal one member of Doug's team to work for you, who would it be? Brian.
Starting point is 01:18:11 I don't know. I don't believe I'm still getting blamed for all this. He's over here. He's been saying Ryan Lopez. things. I love Kenan. Kenan... You would Kenan. He would be, it would just be like, well, Filippo would be great too. You get two minutes. Is it because he's got better hair than me? No, I just, I feel like they would get more done to help me than you.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Oh, for sure. No, I circulated the meme the other day that was like, some people hire a mechanic because their car's broken. I hire a mechanic because I tried to fix it myself and now it's worse. We are not the same. That is me. is a he's got the midwestern the same midwestern kind of vibes that you could have yes um it would be chill pleasant happy nobody would be threatening each other nobody would say you might things that we need to be cut out of podcast do you think you might want to poach one of the team members here to go and work for your new venture are we making cuts is that the next announcement 30% they're like it was test look at we're cutting 30% of our staff right now like we're competition right now here
Starting point is 01:19:14 Sean obviously you're on thin ice there's five people there's five people sitting here, make me an offer. Ryan's been loudly eating lunch for the last hour and a half. I think he's got bandwidth. Okay. Dropping forks. Kenan or Filippo, because he's hyperproductive and you think you could get a lot out of him. I could.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I'll tell you this problem with Filippo. He's expensive. Ooh. He's expensive. But the cost of living is lower in Kansas. It wouldn't matter to him. He's become accustomed to a certain lifestyle. I see.
Starting point is 01:19:44 I see. Filippo flies private. Okay. Next question, next question, next question, next question, Oh, here's a good one from Cadillac Caleb. Cadillac Caleb. This is a good question. Is this your pseudonym?
Starting point is 01:19:58 It's only slightly a personal question. Okay, this is your pseudonym then. Dear Tyler, you really lucked out in finding a car girl like April, and so I was wondering what advice you have to young single guys who are into cars and looking for a girl with similar interests. How do I find a girl that is as into cars as I am? Thank you in advance for your answer. even thank you.
Starting point is 01:20:17 I'm very fortunate in the fact that I met April, you know, working at a car event. So it's very unusual nowadays. Wasn't more than half now. Meet people online as far as, which I can't imagine, meeting a girl online, but I'm a little older. So I see examples of it in some of the younger TikTokers and Jin Z ears that are at events. And they're going to these car events, unlike what Doug doesn't do anymore, but he doesn't need to meet women. And there are girls there. Not the usual place I would try to meet women when he is.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Worst place ever to meet a Gwant. There are girls there, and you just have to go up and talk to them. This isn't something that you have to, like, sliding into DMs and texts and all that stuff. It is not the way that young people do it these days, but if you just go up and talk to them, you're way ahead than having to, like, let's talk for a month on Instagram DMs before we actually, like, interact. Like, go up and talk to them at the places where you want to meet them. You got any advice there? I think we need a key video where Ryan picks up women at car shows.
Starting point is 01:21:19 A car event. teaches us his tricks. Yeah. It's been cut in the past, so I don't know if this will make it or not. Oh, boy. This episode is brought to you by Activia. You might already be eating yogurt, but not all yogurts are created equal. Activia contains over one billion probiotics per serving to survive and reach the gut alive.
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Starting point is 01:22:07 and we'll move on. Okay, since what Nick just said can't be put on on air, let's move on to another question. My advice was good. Do you agree with you? There are women at those events. And coming up and talking to people, I think there is a little bit of a stigma now. Back in our day, you could do it.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Now there's a stigma about if you do that, you're creepy. And I think people are worried about feeling that way. You just don't go up to it. You're hot. It's like you talk about their car or you talk about whatever. And you just see if there's some conversation flowing. I obviously take some social skills that are definitely being lost on that generation. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:22:41 We're doing a next, we're doing a. But I mean, I mean, I don't. No, I mean, like, I don't text very well. So, like, as far as that kind of stuff, I suck at it. So maybe conversationally, I'm a little better in person. Scheduling, he refused to text Sean. He won't deal with the little people. I'm sorry, Sean.
Starting point is 01:22:55 I would only text me. I'm sorry. I got one more piece of advice for finding carcress. I can't wait to hear it, Meg, given the last piece of it. Go to Johnny Lieberman's Instagram page and check out all the ones he follows. A lot of good-looking women that are presumably in the cars. Oh, my God. All right.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Moving on. Next question. I assume that's why he follows them. Next question. This is a good one. From Leot. Dear Hoovie, if you were going to move to another country to escape your crippling debt, what country would you move to? I don't need to have the debt part in there. But I do have a, I am curious, if you weren't living in America, and I think of you as a very American person, where would you go? A lot of the cars you love are not, would it be Canada? You can still get escalades and stuff? No, it was too cold in Canada.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Where would you go? Where would I go? I mean, I traveled. Italy is somewhere I love going back to every time. You like Italy? I think the car culture is there, and there's some isolated spots that, you know, you could still live reasonably. And I'd be okay with that. You'd go to Italy or, you know, south of France.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Monaco is too expensive. I'd live in Monaco. It'd be fun, you know, but I couldn't afford that. You don't think you would go to somewhere that speaks English? You don't think you'd go to Australia? What about the Middle East? They do crazy cars. stuff there. I suppose. England,
Starting point is 01:24:15 the weather, I wouldn't do it. Don't do the weather there. What about Australia? Australia'd be okay, I guess. I've only been to Australia once, but it's been a long time. Interesting. We didn't expect him to say the south of France. Mr. Hoopty over here. He's matured. Okay, next question. Oh, this is a good one for you.
Starting point is 01:24:34 It's for me, it's directed to me, but this is for you. Because you're going to answer it better than I can. J.H.L. 64.6.4. Right. Stere, Doug, there's a pretty clean delta on carbs and bids. Right. Lanset. Delta, cars and bids right now. It's got a reserve. I know you won't bid on cars with a reserve. But why not announce reserve met the moment it happens and really crank up the excitement? At the moment everyone knows a car is selling, it seems like the fun would really blow up.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Why don't you announce reserve met? Hovie, explain why we don't do that. Because that means, oh, this is what the seller thought he was going to get, so I need to stop bidding. Yes. When you announce reserve met on an online auction, you're basically saying, hey, hey, buyers, You're paying too much. Exactly. The seller only thought he's going to get this much. Now you're paying way more than that. When you announce it at Barrett Jackson, it's a room.
Starting point is 01:25:22 All no reserve. Or, okay, fine. The electric car auctions where they say the reserves off. In the room, it has a different effect. It can really energize, electrify. These people are drinking. These people are all getting egged on by their buddies. It's a different situation.
Starting point is 01:25:36 And that the auctions go so fast you get this, like, urgency to it? Like, I got to get in there because, like, auction's over in like a 30. I could lose this. Yes. Correct. I could lose this car. You got a split second to make the decision. On the online auctions, anybody who announces reserve is off, if a seller is making a mistake. As a buyer, I love it.
Starting point is 01:25:52 I bought a car one time where they did that and instantly bidding stop just like it always does. And you, I assume, you're selling all your cars, no reserve. No reserve. Always from the beginning. You were terrified with the phantom in the very first one back in 2020? You ever hear from that guy? No, no. I don't think he doesn't have it anymore.
Starting point is 01:26:10 I'm sure. We did so many car wheels after that because of the first. John Claude Van Dam. Oh, yeah. I got that from him, the Bentley. You owe me. Oh, I know. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:26:19 I hope you up with this guy. You owe me. I need a cut of all that. He's awesome. You still in touch with him? Every once in a while. Yes, he'll still text. But it's crazy because he's in South Carolina,
Starting point is 01:26:29 and he has like a four-car garage, but 30 cars, and it's like 10 of them are Rolls Royces and Bentley's that are outside. It's so, like, and it's like, like, Phantom Drophead that sits outside kind of stuff. It's just crazy. I remember he was in South Carolina. Next question from Shotgun Sam 9-11. Dear Tyler, when are you moving to San Diego?
Starting point is 01:26:46 What is keeping you in Kansas? I have the same question, shotgun Sam. Children and family. Next question. Dear, dear Tyler. Cost of living, too. I think it was too expensive. Taxes are a problem for me.
Starting point is 01:26:57 What is Kansas's state income tax? Mine is effective rates like around five and a half or something like that. It's not that much different. I mean, it's different, but it's not insane. MEO 424 writes, Mr. Tyler, would you ever consider getting a Pagoda SL or is it too similar to the 300 SL and to your R107? That's the thing. It's sort of the in between. It has elements of both that I like. And it's just never been an opportunity for me to get one because they rust so easily.
Starting point is 01:27:26 So it's getting one that is a hoopty but not rusted. It's just the opportunity is never present itself, not opposed to it. They're cool though. They're very cool. I wouldn't like, yeah, manual. They had manual 230s. I don't think they did manual 280s. But I wouldn't, yeah, no problem.
Starting point is 01:27:41 You ever think about it, but you know? They're cool. I think they look beautiful. You're Mercedes-Benz, man. Yeah, maybe, maybe one day. They have this bad rear axle system that's a little, like this semi-solid swing arm thing that's a little, like, same with the 190s. That makes it, like, not as fun to, like, carve around a corner or what. It's a cruising car.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Yes. The 107, because it can, like, if we went up the hills with you guys, like, in your car, is, like, I could have some fun. And that car would be a little, a little scary. Dear Hoovie, what is your guess on the percentage of your collection that gets driven on a monthly basis? I try every two months
Starting point is 01:28:18 make sure every car gets a good drive. And so I can see the lifts kind of rotate. But now recently I've been buying cars that I just put on the lift and not move. So like my Jurassic Park Jeep may come down once every six months. The Fast and Furious Prius, it's not like I'm Johnson to get that thing down and drive it.
Starting point is 01:28:33 There's one car truck car that's all chopped up and ruined that's at the very top You still have that Fast and Furious Prius? I bought it back just recently. Just a few months ago, it popped up for a... It showed up at a wholesale dealer, like this guy just dumped it, and they knew.
Starting point is 01:28:48 It was like, do you want it back? Well, yeah, it's just to park it as part of, like, my history. You know, it's just... We pretty often will sell cars. I don't know if you ever notice that. I don't know how often you'd go on cars and bids, but pretty often we sell... Every day.
Starting point is 01:29:01 You probably have noticed. We sell cars that previously owned. You've had so many cars that they come across, not infrequently. You know, a guy you sold it to, or the five owners later or something like that. And sometimes I discover late, because I think that Rolls Royce, the Wizard just came up and sold for around 10 grand on cars and bids, which is amazing because, like, I bought it for 10 grand, spent five on it, Wizard bought it, you know, in store credit
Starting point is 01:29:23 for about it then, spent thousands on it. And then the next, I mean, that's just, it's just, it's just, everybody has a year. They get 10 grand for it. They spend on the repairs. Like, it just keeps going. That's so true. Okay, last question, last question, last question, last question. This is going to be an important one from poor financial decisions.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Dear Hooke, of all the cars you've ever owned, which brand has consistently left you the most disappointed? Ooh. Is it BMWs, a lot of the modern BMWs that get me, and Maserati's, there's been some rough ones, too, where I feel like, yeah, that's probably the two. Wow, BMW and Maserati. BMW and BMW. What BMW? How come? Because I'll buy the worst examples of things.
Starting point is 01:30:08 And there's just so many gatchez where it just, it's just smoked me over the years. Yeah. The Alpina B7 series that, unfortunately, like the supercharger was bad and the Vowseals were bad. And then the X6M that I had to bury because somebody had blown the motor and swapped it over. So I get caught in BMWs a lot.
Starting point is 01:30:30 And the Moceratis is just, for obvious reasons, because I buy the worst ones of them. and then usually get smoked. And it's, they can be fine if they're nice, but obviously I'm looking for the cheapest bottom of the barrel, and that's the ones where it's usually so far mechanically total is just unfixable. How is your YouTube views these days? I'm hanging in there?
Starting point is 01:30:48 Yeah, you're making good, uh, I'm doing fine. I've, I've definitely, as far as the rapid growth around COVID that everybody experienced, that was, you know, that was fun. And I,
Starting point is 01:30:59 I'm happy where I'm at, the plateau where I'm at, the thing is where you guys are doing more brand deals and things. That's the cool thing I think that where YouTube is getting a lot more mainstream where big brands are coming on to advertise with YouTubers that you've normally seen on TV and all that stuff. So as far as that's where this new thing is coming where now I have pretty much every video sponsored by. Now I have a tire rack. I have many regular sponsors every month. And it's so it's nice to be.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Are you making more off that than it has. It has passed. Ruth and assets. Really? It has passed that sense dramatically at this point. You doing brand deals? Not on that level. But, yeah, T-Moo's sent me some stuff, you know.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Why don't you hook him up? It's a different scale. Of course. You need to hook him up. Me. You got tired of you got, you got mother. You got a mother. Amazing partnerships you got you doing recently.
Starting point is 01:31:45 It's really neat because it was unimaginable just a few years ago. A lot of these brands. So, like, we were doing commercials for, like, you know, weird game apps and, like, strange watches and things. Like, mainstream brands never imagined going on YouTube until very recently. One of the reasons that I didn't do ads for so long is because the product. that you were being asked to advertise were always substandard BS. And I didn't want to be associated with any of that. And it's amazing to me that, yeah, we have really high quality companies advertising us that I am actually legitimately.
Starting point is 01:32:14 I use their product. I am proud of their product. I am proud to advertise for them because I truly believe that it's like a real, like, tire, I mean, there's a bunch, mothers. And it's nice. Because when we started YouTube, I mean, I don't know, the goal for you is more supplement for your writing and things. somewhat for me. But the dream was to, like, get a TV show and, like, be the next top gear or something like that.
Starting point is 01:32:38 And, well, it's to a point. Yeah, I had three seasons of the Motor Trend show. But YouTube became the platform in that time where now all the people that were very well known on TV are, like, struggling to get a YouTube channel going because that's where the audience is now, and it's completely flipped. And I find it interesting because, yeah,
Starting point is 01:32:57 that was the goal for so many of these people. And it was my goal originally for the first couple years, and has not been my goal for years. And I'm surprised that there are still people in this sphere that have that as their goal. Because it's like, maybe this is it. This is TV. Like, this is as big of a reach as any of those shows
Starting point is 01:33:13 I'll ever have. And you don't have to do all the BS. Yes. But at the same time, the struggle with, I think, our content because you have always wanted to keep to your quality that's been the same for 10 years or lack thereof as far as with your reviews. Same with me.
Starting point is 01:33:26 I'm kind of a running-go vlog guy. You have key now that's the very high-quality thing. But that's what we have now have to compete with now is TV quality level production in reviews and car ownership and all that stuff. And it is one thing where obviously our personalities and the content that we're doing kind of drives that and the reviews and your quirks and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:33:46 But obviously that makes it a harder bar to where like getting a million views no matter what whenever I bought something crazy or when you get a new car, it's not, it's a harder thing to hit nowadays. It is. It is. I think the short form was really the big thing that affected all that. I think it was short form more than high-quality stuff.
Starting point is 01:34:05 I think that people on YouTube don't care that much about it. Well, it's saturation. There's so many people doing what we do now, where there was much few of us. I think the real thief, the guy who came and took our revenue and took our views is Forrest Auto Reviews. You see Forrest out there on TikTok? He's the Doug Demir of TikTok. He does the quirks and features, but short and good and snappy. He's amazing.
Starting point is 01:34:24 I look up to him. And also, I hate him for stealing everything. Really? Well, no, I don't care. I've changed my intros a lot. I do think that, though. I do think short form came and really had an effect. You don't think that?
Starting point is 01:34:35 I agree, because I have changed my intros a lot to where, like, you got to get some of going. Like, they need to know within 10 seconds what this video is going to be. It needs to be less than a second before shot, shot, shot, shot, because people are so used to that short form style of like, I get all this information in such a short period of time. Like, what's going to happen in this video? And then maybe I'll sit and watch it.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Do you do a lot of short form? No. You should. I need to. We do it. We spend hours. You have a team. We have a team that spends hours and hours.
Starting point is 01:35:00 They all get paid a salary, spends hours and hours, and it makes us no money. Listen, Hoovie, at the end of this, to celebrate your arrival here on the pod, I want to provide you with a Ferrari F40. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's beautiful that you're here. It's like the gas-smoking one you should have bought. Did I tell you that story?
Starting point is 01:35:20 You know that story? I think so. Yes. That's out of camera. I don't think I could tell the whole story here. Thank you so much for coming. for gracing us with your presence all the way from Scottsdale, Arizona,
Starting point is 01:35:31 ladies and gentlemen. Both Nick and Hoovey have a big Scottsdale presence. That's right. You guys should meet up one time at a Fazoli. Texas Roadhouse. Pleasure, Hovie. You got anything else?
Starting point is 01:35:42 Any parting thoughts for us? No, I'm honored to be here. Anytime you want me to come. Really? Because I would have you every week. It's an easy drive. It's not bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Okay. How about every week? Not every week? It's at any time. You know, quarterly, every other month, whatever you want to do. Let's do it. Let's bring him here quarterly. Do we pay him for this?
Starting point is 01:36:00 Do we pay him for this? Oh, you get paid to be here? But I don't want to take away budget from key. You know, that's the other thing. It's like, that's some good stuff. Ryan Lopez getting real money for that. Look, go watch the key stuff if you haven't yet. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:36:12 That's beautiful. He's plugging. He's plugging. He's plugging. He's plugging. He's plugging on. This is Hooby. He is a selfless, beautiful person.
Starting point is 01:36:20 He's got a gullwing that he's trying to get running again. He's plugged in your prep project. He may not be aging beautifully, but he is beautiful inside. Yes. Should we head up with Ryan and Hillcrest? Okay, goodbye, everyone. Spotify, it's Jay Shetty. Are you one of those media strategy people? scrolling through spreadsheets, searching for an audience that pays twice as much attention to your ads than they do on social? Let me introduce you to fans. And they're here with me on Spotify.
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