THIS CAR POD! with Doug DeMuro & Friends! - Lamborghini Cancels Its EV! Ferrari Manual Comeback? Doug Predicts the Future.

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

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And welcome to this car pod. I'm Felipe. I'm Nick. I'm Doug. And today we got a big news, a hundred years of our podcast. Yep. Something like that. More or less.

No, this is our 100th episode. And it's a special episode because we're going to have, we have special things to talk about. And somebody photoshopped 100 into a 4GT headlight. No, that's how it looks. That's how it looks. What do you mean? What are that? It's right there.

You've never seen this? I've never seen this. I have not noticed that. It was for Ford's 100th anniversary. They made the, like, say, you never knew this? How could you? They did it for us. They only did it on one side.

The other side, it says zero, zero one. But that's because it's the number one best forward of all time. Our 100 podcast, thank you so much for listening, for watching, for viewing us for 100 years. Yep. When we started this podcast, the Depression was in full swing. All right. Let's move on to the first news story. Lincoln Bronco, folks, I'm not going to gloat.

I'm not going to gloat. Maybe to him. Maybe to him. Because he's always saying that I'm an idiot. But I'm not going to gloat. However, I did say on this podcast that Lincoln should make a Bronco, and then they did. A Lincoln G-wagon, based on the Bronco, I want Lincoln to go out there and make a G-wagon. Like Abraham himself. Hopefully this isn't it?

No, this is a navigator with... A different Lincoln Grill? What happened is a couple of months ago, we started talking about how Lincoln should make a Bronco because there's a G-Wagon and it sells. And then this week, they came out and announced that they were going to make a Bronco. Great.

Now, I got a buddy who works for Lincoln, and I texted him randomly a couple weeks ago, and he was like, hey, yeah, nice to hear from me. I hadn't talked to him like a year or two years. He goes, nice to talk to you. By the way, Lincoln Bronco is a good idea. And I thought he was kidding. And it turns out he was confirming it.

Anyway, the point is this. I'm brilliant and always correct. You got anything to say to that? When I saw this new story, I immediately cringed and just thought I cannot handle this. I also predicted the X-Tera. And years ago, coming back and years ago,

I said that Lexa should make a G-wagon and then they took the G-X and made it like a square. And you could say that this was brilliant, but really I was just saying that the automakers should all make off-road vehicles because that is the trend. And despite years of me banging this drum, Chevy still does not have a Raptor competitor.

Insane. This is exciting. Obviously, I think you should do this. Fun fact, they were going to refresh the Bronco. They said this week that the Bronco is not getting a refresh at all, because it's selling well enough. It's selling well enough. Yeah, it's on a point.

You know, the Corvette refresh was they took the buttons off the flyover. They won't even do that for the Bronco. This basically is the refresh. One interesting thing about this, when we were talking about it, something I didn't say, but I've been thinking, making a Lincoln version of the Bronco is going to be hard. The G-Wagon,

is purpose-built ground up as a luxury vehicle. The Bronco, no offense, is not a luxury. Like, it's not a luxury car. Like, the doors come off. The roof comes off. It's competitive for what it is, but it's not. It's going to be hard to turn that. It's like how all those companies try to turn defenders into good cars,

and you can't actually do that. Dead leather, but it's still a defender. Still defender. It's trash. Like, that's going to be the situation here. I'm curious how you've six. They succeeded with the blackwood, blackwood. They succeeded with the Mark LT.

What do you mean? What's your concern? They did succeed with the Navigator. But I would argue that the, you know, the expedition is a much, already lends itself to much more. It'll be very interesting to see how, does a Lincoln Bronco, the doors come off? Like, do you know what I mean? Does that imagine they civilize? It's certainly going to be four door only.

They won't have a two-door. But imagine if they had a two-door Lincoln Bronco with a V8, like the Defender 90 V8. Wow. That would do. I'm into it. I'm into it. They won't. You know, the old G-Wagon wasn't all that nice either.

It was basically like John's bad-colored G-wagon, not that nice. But people have come to expect in today's world the G-wagon. They like know, though, the new defender. Lincoln, your expectations are a little lower, and sorry, Lincoln. I totally disagree with that. I think Lincoln makes the best cars in the three segments they're in. They're great. You've got to imagine it will not have removal doors.

It will not have a removable top. But it will be capable off-road and look like an off-road SED. I honestly truly wonder. I mean, the Broncos is an amazing chassis. Is it easier to just start from scratch? You know, because like, the Bronco is not a car where NVH is a thing they're thinking about much. It's probably 84th on the list. But if you're going to charge the kind of money, they're going to have to.

Because the Bronco's not cheap. So a Lincoln one's probably going to start at 70. Yeah, it'll be an 80-85 car. You add enough carpet. You make the windows and doors not removable, so you add additional sound bed in double-pin windows. But was it designed for that? I mean, it'll be a lot of extra weight. It'll be tough.

I do kind of wonder if they'll actually just shorten, like, the expedition chassis. Yeah. Or the navigator. People wouldn't let them, though. If they were like, we're going to do a Lincoln Bronco and then they came out with a navigator-based thing that looks off-rody. Or like a whatever chassis they use for the aviator, which is a car that might still exist. Well, it's the, remember, the Explorer chassis, which is rear-wheel drive. It's actually a pretty good chassis.

They could just use that. But it won't have any off-word credibility. But then you add some tech, you know. I think they can screw this out. I mean, and also. Some light strips on the interior or some ambient light. You make it look a little off-rody. You add a crawl control.

You're done. Benchmark this to the Yukon Denali, not to the G-Wagon. So they're able to take a Yukon, kind of a boring car. They'd argue they already have a company. But that's the navigator. I agree, but this is the Bronco equivalent. Like a Denali trim level. The Denali is the luxury trim.

You're talking about the Yukon AT4. No, I'm saying this is like a denolified version of the Bronco. Okay, got it. They will put nicer springs in it. They'll put some sound down. So you're not trying to make a true luxury vehicle. It's not a complete new vehicle. It's a nicer trim level of an existing.

That's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe so. I don't know. To sell it under a Lincoln brand, they probably have certain things they want from it. I'm very curious to see how it all shakes down. Lincoln dealers will be thrilled. They will be thrilled.

Yeah. Although, to your point about the Blackwood, like, that was an idea. Like, oh, there's so many people love that from 50s. Let's do a Lincoln. Well, it turns out that the people who want pickup trucks don't want a luxury brand name. However, we already know from the G-Wagon and others that they are willing to do that for SUVs. You know what he's doing right now?

He's backpedaling because he gave Lincoln the idea. Now if it flops, he doesn't want to be blamed for it. I want to be blamed. God's sake. And I gave him the exterior idea. And, by the way, we're now going to move on to a segment called Doug predicts, where an I predict the future. Doug predicts that Ferrari comes out with a manual transmission.

That's the next one. I've been predicting this and the manual Ferrari. You're going to double down on this. Yeah. You're to stake your record on this. No, but like, come on. This is, how can they not? I got another prediction coming in about two news.

stories, by the way. We can move on to the next one. This is all speculative. Yes, Lamborghini, and my boy Stefan Lindelman, announced that they will no longer be targeting the, you can pronounce this better, Lanzantador, electric vehicle. And the funny part is they say, you know, instead of saying like Lamborghini would just, there's no demand for a luxury EV, he said it does not have the specific emotional connection that we want with our customers. It is interesting. Ferrari's sitting here developing this Apple iPad. Exactly. Electric station wagon And Lambo's like, nope.

Isn't that a boss move to wait like one week after it drops? With a more beautiful car and be like, good luck. This car is really cool looking. I wish there was a gas version of this. I think it's like pretty neat looking. I don't want an EV Lambo. And yeah, I think this is a smart move for them, both from a branding perspective of just like being like we're not like Ferrari.

Like you feel really stupid in Maranello right now. Yeah. But also like you probably wouldn't have done that great. And those people have seen what that looks like. And so they're sitting here looking at their electric hatchback. And Lambo's out like, we ain't going to do this. Plus, there's a plug-in version of the Uris. Like, do we need the full EV?

When I was a kid, a child, a wee lad. Ferrari was the company for connoisseurs, and Lamborghini was the company for, yeah, poser idiots. And we've seen some changes to that. Lamborghini's still the company for poser idiots, but now so is Ferrari. Right, right. But with this, you start to wonder if, like, the enthusiast is maybe more the Lamborghini buyer. It sounds like somebody that bought a Lamborghini.

Well, maybe. Am I wrong, though? Like, really, like, you think about Ferrari and all the people who are buying them and the colors and the options and the stupid crap that they're doing. And Lambo is doing it too to an extent. But I just feel like there's a little bit more credibility to a degree in modern Lambeaus. And you got the V-12 thing in the Revoto. Like, their design language has been great. Like, they're making some smart moves.

They're more genuinely them. Yeah, right. We just need a loo come back. What's great to is they can always change their mind. They got the free press out of this just to be like, sorry Ferrari. You know that someday they're going to, right? But like saying now, hey, we're not doing this, that's real. And there's a some cost fallacy that if you're an automaker is sometimes hard to ignore.

Like, Ferrari shouldn't do it. Like, if you look at all the other EV supercars, they've all failed, they're all disasters. I shouldn't, but they've gone this far. A real company like Stalantis who canceled whatever they were Remember they had all sorts of VEVES? Cancelled them all That's what a real company is.

That was actually for sale. Lambo's doing this too. Ferrari has a sun there's a sun call. Oh, we can make it work for Ferrari. To be fair, that is one of the benefits that Lambo has, right? They're owned by Audi and the Volkswagen Group. That development is all commingled with Porsche and Audi's et cetera. So they can get away with saying,

we don't want to use that platform and that work because they haven't invested all of their R&D budget for the last decade. It's true also at Ferrari. They're doing it alone fundamentally. I mean, they have more money than God. Ferrari has more money than literally God. God comes fras for bank. Well, that's why they're going to keep going to go,

because they have more money than God. But Labor has the ability to say, no, we're going to cost. Reputation is everything to Ferrari. The whole company trades on reputation. Their argument would be that they've always been the people moving the market forward and developing what's next, and this is going to be what's next. And so in the world of electric hatchbacks, Ferrari will be the class leader. Them and theionic 5N.

Yes. Okay, that's a good news story. Here's another one. Nick, do you want to say it and I'll say I'll give you my future prediction? Well, last week you all talked about the RS5 Avant, how exciting it is and how it's definitely coming to the U.S. We didn't have any information about it, by the way. Including the fact that there's a little asterisked there that's bigger than the exhaust tips of the RS5. Which are giant. Yes. It's wild. That it might not be coming to the United States after all. I will say this, I did a deep dive on this. So this is all coming from one YouTuber who's very well-liked and known in the Audi community. who apparently spoke to somebody at Audi and they told him, no, we don't have a plan

to bring into the U.S. Nobody else has independently confirmed this. Audi has not spoken to anybody else and said this. I'm going to tell you right now. Here's Doug's prediction. It's coming to the U.S. That's that. Audi created demand for this R.S.6.

After years of being like, no, nobody wants it. Well, guess what? We do want it. And by the way, we don't want your sedan. And they don't even make an R6 sedan anymore. That's how much people don't want it. True. And in fact, the RS6 forced BMW to come with the M5.

I was at a BMW event three years ago where they launched the XM total disaster. And they admitted to me openly that they had made the mistake and wished they had brought the M3 wagon. But the decision had been made late enough that they hadn't seen how the RSX had done, et cetera, and they wish the M3 wagon had come. This is going to come to the States. It just is. And if it isn't, then it's just another example in so many of our examples of Audi not understanding its customers, its brand position, all this stuff.

But you've got to assume it's coming to the US. It just is. Audi created the segment for the RS6. Yep. You sent in an email. No, I'm trying to say, I want to reference the YouTuber correctly who had that break, and I miss who it is. A couple of things about it, because we didn't have any facts last week. The RS5, 2.9-liter V6, plug-in hybrid, quite heavy.

630 horse. Yep. Real power, real performance, relatively heavy, as they all are, because they have the battery pack. What's the way? 5,400 pounds, some of that? That's not that bad. Yeah. Not good.

Yeah. One thing that's interesting that that same YouTuber pointed out of their video, the RS4 is dead. The RS4, which has this heritage, especially in the community, you want to be five,

you want to be six, you want to be seven RS4. They're all very desirable. It's dead. Yeah. Although originally it was called the RS2. Like, ultimately, time moves on and life soldiers on.

It's nevertheless. This is the way life works. You know what I'm saying? Things die. Things bloom again. Is that a lot of? a smart move? I could see an RS3 sportback coming eventually.

I mean, or I guess it already exists in non-UOS markets. The automakers generally find that adding numbers gets people to buy the cars. Like, oh, your lease comes up, you can get out of an A4 and get into an A5. Mentally, there's a big deal. I'm serious. But that's why they call it the S-550 instead of the S-500. But is that true when the RF4 has heritage? Does it?

It does, but Audi's nomenclature is all weird. and they keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Like, if you want a B7 R's four-sized car, you get the RS3 now. The other week, I was asked to leave Warby Parker. Not by an employee. They were great, but by my wife. You see, we were in there trying on different frames, different looks,

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I love Audi dearly. I should send an email over to Audi's PR guy, who I love is one of my top five favorite PR guys. Wow. People. PR people. Let's go through it. Let's go through the list.

I really do love him. Partially because he tells me the truth. You know, I was thinking about this the other day. The difference between a PR person I love and a PR person that's fine, I love the ones that told me the, hey, this car sucks. But the next one will be good. And some PR people actually say things like that, and it's lovely. But the Audi, if Audi doesn't bring this and does bring the Q4, did bring the Q4,

which is the worst car on sale, by the way. If you're thinking about buying a Q4, don't. It's horrible. You're making a mistake. Don't bring about the Q4. Sportback. The Q4 is the Q4. The Q4 Sportbag is actually the worst car on sale.

Are those still on sale? I think they're maybe gone. The new Q5 is out, the new Q6 is out. New Q5 is great. Q6 is great, too, actually. This is coming. Are you aware that there's the Audi A5, you reviewed it? There's an Audi A6, which you've maybe reviewed, ETRON.

There's an Audi A6 ETRON. There's an Audi A6 E-Tron. Yeah. Which should not have been possible. That looks different, entirely different from the E6. The electric one. Yeah, it's a little bit of a situation. The 5-0 looks phenomenal.

I think the rear end with the gigantic dual exhausts, one on each side, is a bit much for me. It is a bit much, but this is the way direct styling is going. I remember when Porsches were subtle, and the GT3RS, even Porsche has gone into this, like, we have to show off and look ridiculous and all the thing. So we can't have, unfortunately, the C5R6 that we love so dearly. Those days are over. You can't just have, like, subtle changes.

That's a lot, though. You've got to have a big vent. You've got to have big exhaust. It's the way of the world. It is still, it is still less showy than. and it's Mercedes-Benz and BMW competitors. And by the way, if they don't bring it here... Have you seen the rear end?

Have you seen an M-3? Have you seen the front-end? I mean, fair. If they don't bring it here, I think their reasoning is that no one's ever really tried or succeeded with a wagon this size before. It's all been the bigger ones. But I would argue that Audi has created the demand with the R-S-6.

Mercedes was selling the E-63 wagon at a trickle for a long time. RS6 showed up. It is vastly more popular. I think it might even be more popular than the All-Road version. Oh, certainly. I certainly see them about one to one. And then M5 had to come, and Audi can create their own demand. They have customers interested in this stuff.

And I'm going to say it right here on this podcast. If Audi brings this car to the United States, Nick will buy one new. Nick will buy one new if Audi brings it to the United States. That is a bold prediction, all right. I'm not predicting. I'm saying you've now committed to this. Well, you committed for me. Yep.

If there's the right financing deal, perhaps. What's that deal? I don't know what like a lease cost All right $500 a month Is that fair? No, it's not bad A3 base

He's getting Q4 E-Trop You could get there with like a hundred month Loan I'll do one of the like Ed Bullion One Time pay Lease buyout jokes Okay that doesn't It's not gonna be more than $500

Yeah I imagine there would be a wait list for this There wouldn't be deals People would be excited for it No I think that too very much It might even be the most enthusiast-oriented Audi on sale when it comes out with the RA gone. It absolutely. I truly believe this will come to the States.

I truly, truly believe that. And if they don't, it's just the Q4. The Q4 and not this, it's embarrassing. But I'll get angry about it when we find out if it actually is it coming. Audi-togography, by the way, the YouTube channel. Oh, yeah, I follow him. Next news story, please. Oh, yes.

Suzuki Jiminy. Yeah, okay. This is a rendering, I guess, of the Wii Fy Shotschatsu, of the baby Jew wagon. For a long time, Mercedes said it was going to be electric only. Yeah. It would, of course, be the baby G-wagon with EQ technology. EQ technology. We now know that there will also be a plug-in hybrid or a hybrid of some sort in addition to the EV version.

There will be gasoline. They'll be gasoline. You know what I'm worried about with this baby G-wagon? Say you're driving around in your real G-wagon. Aren't you a little worried that? Sean, are you worried this is going to make us feel like? Yep, he's saying, yeah. Even him with his old rusty, bad-colored G-wagon.

and he's worried that it's going to make him seem less legit. I heard the rest is spreading. It is. Are you, when you, a full-size rangeover man, when you see a sport, do you think to yourself, oh, this loser? Yeah, no, it's not only do I not want to be associated with them, but it's like they're just of a different planet. Different planet.

You have a valuable, full-size rangeover that was given to you for free and only has six illuminated warning lights. Like the sport people are nothing near. Yeah, no. It's trash. It's like you, when somebody pulls up next to you at a Mustang GT.

Or the Bronco Sport to the Bronco. The, Mustang GT, though, is baller. And this, I think, is going to be a weeny card. If I'm honest. Do you think I'm wrong? I said nothing. It's going to be a baby

G-Wagon plug-in hybrid. Or maybe a regular hybrid, I guess we don't know for sure. Does that matter? The G-Wagon Prius. People are going to see these and laugh at them just like people have been laughing at the baby versions of real cars since the dawn of time. I don't know, the range sport sells well and looks pretty decent.

No, the range sport is a great car. That's not really what I mean. But like, Boxer Cayman. The disco sport, different. Boxer Cayman, which I love dearly, after 30 years, still has the stigma. And they're now making an RS version. It still has the stigma of being not the full.

And this isn't the disco sport. This is the Freelander equivalent. Like, this is so far out. Sharing your modern car knowledge. We're hanging out. Someone's similar crowds. A year Freelander the other day, Nick, yellow convertible with like no miles on marketplace. We didn't buy it.

It was somewhere on the other side of the country. And they sent it to me and they were like, if you bought this, you would rule Nantucket in the summer. I was like, you absolutely would not and I don't think you'd make it there. I saw one on the road the other day here in North Park. What? Yeah. They're around. You don't send me.

It was too far away. I couldn't get a picture. It was up the street and I'd turn. I sent you that two-door evoked over the weekend. I enjoyed that. Like chasing this lady down as she was going to her boutique. in Del Mar. Well, that's going to be our situation with the Gwag.

No, I have a suspicion this is going to sell in crazy numbers. I'm just disappointed by it. A real G-wagon is made in Austria. Sean? Yeah. Too many people buy the G-wagons that never use them and think that they are too big and brutish. If you are finishing your senior year at a sorority in the down south and you got your first job in PR, like this is going to be the ultimate vehicle.

When I started school at Emory, which was in 2006, there were two freelanders in the sorority pie. Yep. Yep, yep. Nice. I agree. Look, from a business point of view, it's going to be awesome. Yeah, you've got to do it. From Mercedes-Benz going to be awesome. I do wonder every time you water down something, it does potentially have an effect on the big thing.

Maserati showed us it can really screw things up. Like, no one thinks Maserati's legit. Right. No one legit. And it's all because of the Ghibli is legit. Let's just say this is a good alternative to the Q4 Sportback. I mean, so it's moving the market up. You know what the best alternative to Q4 sport back is?

Walking. Called it. The city bus. All right. Let's move on. Anything used. Whatever this is. Whatever this is.

I said, I'll skip the story. There was additional confirmation out of Mazda's European division that the next Miata, the N-E Miata, first all, is, there's like there are prototypes of it. They're actually working on it. It will be electrified in some way. It will not be EV, but there will be an electric component. Like a 12-volt battery? Yeah, something that.

No, like a plug-in hybrid or a hybrid. They also said in the same thing that they would remain true to their roots. I am curious, having driven the Temerario, I'm sorry, the John Tamerian, and having now looked at this RS5 Avant, which is 1,200 pounds heavier than the previous RS4 Avant,

and having driven the M-5 and all that, how is it possible that you stay true to your roots and go hybrid? I think the answer is a really small battery back. Yeah, maybe. But, like, I'm looking at all these cars, like the relative weight increase is still going to be significant

considering what the Miata is, you know what I mean? Yeah, fair. But it can still be the lightest car around. Yeah. And there are some EVs that are sold in Europe and other markets that are legitimately just very low-range EVs. Yeah. And those are pretty light.

Maybe. Yeah, it's not going to be a low-ray. No, no, no, no. It will be a hybrid or some kind. But if you do it correctly, small batteries. Yeah. There were some note,

you could imagine they're going like a Porsche direction where there are hybrid 9-11s. They don't add that much weight. Are you crazy? the 992 GTS, the new 992 GTS, weighs 12,400 pounds. What is it actually? Sorry, it's 11,680 pounds. Yeah.

Wow. You know, it is 3,600 pounds, and it's only 110 pounds heavier in the previous model. But what was interesting about what the Mazda Europe person said is they could, they look forward to, basically, they look forward to driving with no. sound at all. So I don't think that's doable because the engine always runs in that, just the hybrid porting it. So they will have to be a true hybrid component. But it can be lightish. The good news with Miata is there's not like this beloved sound that enthusiasts have to hear like in some of these cars. The bad news with Miata is that weight has always been its big thing and I keep driving these cars with the weight and they're all awesome. Like Temerario, despite what the comments saying, oh,

the V10, it's no V10, it sucks. I totally disagree. It drove great. It is heavy. It feels heavy. It drives heavy, it looks big, and the whole story with Miata is that it's not like that. I also worry a little bit about manual transmission, which I think they have to do. Honda has done it. There have been Honda hybrids that have a manual, but that's the only one. No, I did not. The original Insight and the original civic hybrid. And the CRZ all had manual transmissions.

So it's doable. Have they done it since? No, but the CRZ was sold through like 15. It hasn't been that long, yeah. I worry about that too. We might be in the heyday of the Miata, the ND. Like, I don't think that about the Temerario. Like, I think that is, we're still making great Lambeaus, the Revuelto.

But those car companies can add hybrid power and get away with the additional weight with suspension technology and power and all this stuff. Very different. The Miata is going to be a lot harder to do. Well, I'm very curious. I hope that, for the Miata people's sake, I honestly hope the ND generation continues on for quite a bit longer. Because I have a suspicion there's dark clouds ahead. I also do think that, I mean, they're basically saying we have prototypes of the NE,

but there's a lot of work still to do. There will be an ND Miata for a while yet to come. It's been a long run. It came on in 2014, so we're already 11, 12 years ahead, and there'll be more. I'm excited for the NJ, the New Jersey Miata. Do you want to say anything about it? Do you want to say anything about it? No.

Okay. I'll plead the best. All right. Miata, okay. What else we got? Oh, this. Apparently, it's over. BMW is not going to make new manual transmission.

That's not to say that the cars are going away yet. The Doug predict the future segment should get on this too, because I've been saying for so long that people should shut up about how the M3 and the M2 look, because it's the last time you're going to get a straight six manual rear-wheel drive BMW, and guess what? I will say what they've said is that it's very unlikely that they will develop, like a new transmission, like a full new transmission unit.

Their argument is there's not enough demand. they can't find a supplier to build it with the amount of demand that there would be for the new transmission, which is fair because it's a niche take. I guess. And also, as a part of that, the current manual transmission

can only, to BMW specifications, handle 405 pound feet of torque. So no car, they won't offer it in theory in cars that make more than 405 pound feet of torque. The current M3 makes up to 480 pound feet of torque. Oh, but that's the auto version. It's the manual is the base one that is for 406. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to give you a top tip.

If you want to have a very valuable car someday, you go pick up a new M3 stick in one of those weird colors. You bring it home and you never once drive it. And in 30 years, that car will be worth about 15% of what you could have made in an index fund. And you're right, I'm sorry, it's 4006.m3. The M2CS is also 4006. 4006. That's all it can take. Don't tune your BMWs, folks.

The transmissions could only take 406 pound feet, not a penny more. Obviously, that's to BMW's own desires for reliability, et cetera. Which are known to be very stringent. Do you hear the other BMW transmissions? I'm about the fact that their trans goes up to the exact amount of torque. Like, oh boy, I hope we didn't get one that's tuned a little more from the factory. The trams will blow. Yeah.

That's probably, yeah. I'm not surprised to hear this. The manual transmission is dying. It is whimpering. Yeah. It is casting its last breath, which is why the Ford. G-T remains brilliant. It's the greatest car we made.

Really? No. What do you think is the greatest car for me? I don't know. I don't have an answer to that. Honda Accord, do you think? 05 Accord hybrid. There's always improvements.

Oh, wow. To the O5O-Cord hybrid. Car play. Car play. Yeah. Well, this isn't surprising. Nick, your thoughts on the death of the manual transmission of BMWs? I mean, very predictable to use your nomenclature there.

I mean, we saw this coming. It's weird, this whole segment. We've been, EVs are going away. Then another car is getting easy. and then the manual transmission's going away, then the Ferrari should come up with the manual. Everything's all over the board. There's a weird state of flux in the industry right now,

and I think it's hard for the automakers to do what's going to happen. I do think that of all the manual transmission brands out there who are still doing it, which is like Porsche, Subaru, Mazda, BMW. BMW is probably the least, the one that needs it the least. They could sell these M3s with automatics. They do. Every competition, which are most of them fundamentally. They sell a ton of them.

And I think they would do just as well if it was auto only. The C8 Corvette proved that and many other cars. That's an interesting tip. The C8 Corvette, God, good car. It's interesting, right? Like, it feels like EVs have pushed every automaker to innovate on power and speed, including for their automatic gas powered cars. Where, like, the race is one of how much horsepower can we put in this car,

can we cross 700, can we cross 800, can we cross 800, can we cross 1,000 if you're Lamborghini. That's the race. And it's not a surprise that without a lot of development. and work, the manuals can't support that. Yeah, and there's a new generation of people coming up who aren't as attached to manuals as us. They want the sensation of speed. They want the sensation of speed. That's what they're used to.

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It's under embargo. Oh, no, wait. The embargo is like the moment this pod really, it's great, everybody. No, okay, so. What does the embargo actually? I think it's Friday. I am.

It's not one. We lost a little bit too early. Okay. Here's something for you. The ZR1X. 0.16, 1.67 seconds, 1,0.50 horsepower, 8.67 quarter mile, the fastest thing in the world. Take a guess what the visual distinction is from the regular ZR1. I've seen the car.

Yeah, same. I know. Okay, what is it? Big wing. Okay, that's his. What do you think it is? I think that the front trunk hood, whatever, has slightly deeper, like, airflow. Do you think only the front trunk is the only distinction between the ZR1 and the craziest thing ever? Yeah, kind of.

The correct answer is the badge. Exterior is exactly the same. The wing is the same as the right. That's a big wing. With ZK. With ZK. Otherwise, literally identical on the outside. Isn't that hilarious?

What is Chevrolet doing? Well, because I think there's going to be an even Corvette here, Corvette. You can make the 0-1-X a little bit visually-saint. I was surprised, but I think they've got a pretty tight lineup of doing stuff here. What also are they going to do? There's going to be a Zora. It's going to have 1,500 horsepower, and it's going to make people like you cry. And people like you salute the flag.

Z-Z-R-1. X. It's X. It's 10. It's a ZR. 110. Okay, I have a theory, and it's not substantiated, but I think X stands for all-wheel drive. Just like how X stands for all-wheel drive in, like, stupid cars. I think that is. ZR-1, because that's what it is. It's an all-wheel drive, ZR-1. It's not the E-ray X. No, it's not. But for Z-R-1, they wanted to keep the Z-R-1 name because it's really valuable. And so how do you, because it's Z-R-1, but it's all-wheel drive and it's cool.

Put an X there at the end. Would the luxury version be the Z-R-1-Z? Like LTZ was the luxury LT. Right, maybe. I was thinking the reason they don't distinguish it visually is because Corvette people love to explain to you why their car is special. But that's only when it's not special.

And if you can't tell, then that gives them the opportunity to explain it to you. That's only when it's not special. It doesn't matter if it's special or not. They want the opportunity. They want their placard to explain it. That's so true. And by the way, when you pop the hood,

there is a plaque under the hood. It says zero one X and it gives all the numbers. And that's the other thing I love to do is pop their hood and have placards. Yes. Boom. It's factually accurate. There's no other visual decision. Literally the badge is the only distinct thing in the outside.

Why? Well, Felipe, because there's going to be a Zora. They don't have time. Zer 1 came out yesterday. It literally came out yesterday. And now Zer1X is coming out tomorrow. They are a bam, bam, bam, bam shop. By the way, I want to give a shout out to the C8 Corvette.

The C8 Corvette is the greatest car grade. It is unbelievable. You know what's came out? out six years ago, six years ago, and it is still cool, and it is still exciting, and it is holding its value pretty well, and it's still fast. You're still into them. Yeah. No, it's true. As far as American car goes, this is hard to think of a parallel that's been that successful for that long. People still think it's cool, like six years. And remember the Corvette for so many years when we were kids was plagued with a terrible reputation of a horrible interior, like

a also-ran kind of car. I mean, this is still an impressive car. And, no, No one says bad things about it. No, everybody loves them. Have you driven one? Yeah. You want to drive zero one? Sam's wedding, I rented one on Turo. It was awesome.

Yeah, had a lot of fun. It's fast. It's too fast. Yeah. Even the base, yeah. I, I floored it today in the zero one X. I can tell this now the embargo's like, I floored it today in the zero one X on the freeway, and it broke traction going from second to third, full throttle at 75 miles.

And remember, it's a four-wheel drive car. Yeah. I have it on video. It literally like, I'm like, oh yeah. And then as it starts, like, getting through third, it like gets traction back. Thank God. Your $1.150 is a lot of power. It's a lot of power.

You have a roll on that throttle, I think. What's torque? It's the same as the regular zero one, 830, because the electric motor produces torque at a different peak, you know. The college football athletes that get this, it's going to end some careers. Yes, although I think this car is probably. All-wheel drive helps, I guess. A little bit too expensive even for the college football NIL athletes. You know, a regular corvette with 500 horsepower?

We'll do it. No, it did. And it has already. There was that guy and played for the Raiders. Remember who killed that woman? I will say, we just sold a CA Corvette today that has 35,000 miles, three accidents. MSRP was 66 and it sold for 48-5. I mean, there's no Corvette in history.

There is no Corvette in history that still has this level of enthusiasm and excitement and interest. And on the subject of this new story, they killed the manual and nobody really seemed to care. The fact that they switched to a mid-engine and that it was so good and so exciting, Kind of was enough to do away with it. I remember when you reviewed it in a Las Vegas Strip Mall parking lot? It was UNLV's campus, but yes,

it was behind some dumpsters at UNLVY's campus and we got 12 billion views. And Chevy has never not given me a press car ever again. All right, what do we got here? All right, Aston is cutting 20% of their workforce. Great. What a shock. But I will say, this is my only tie into tariffs.

The tariff situation changed. We're not going to talk about it. Let's go. Didn't they also say it was in part due to AI. It's important to them burning an insane amount of money and having huge debt obligations because they burn a same amount of money every year for the last forever.

Aston wants to blame tariffs. Totally fine. I personally would blame the product lineup. The DBX. Also, the UK actually has very favorable tariff situation now, although for a period of time it was not. It's sort of favorable. Also, it's no longer favorable, actually.

And there's a cap, but they're not hitting that. Yeah, but it's a whole UK and Jaguar Land Rover hits it. Well, Land Rover. They're complaining about tariffs. They're also complaining about the Chinese market being really soft for luxury cars, which it is. If Aston would make good product. Here's what I want from Aston. All right.

First off, off-road SUV. Come on. Come on. It's like the Lincoln Bronco, which I predicted. You think I'm wrong? A little bit. Yeah. The problem with Aston is that your line of thinking is the problem, is that it has this reputation and it has just keep the same reputation.

It does not succeed. Making just beautiful British cars. It is not a successful thing. Agreed. So you gotta go, you gotta think different. What is Aston Martin in the 21st century in 2028? Making a G-Wagon. I don't, maybe that sells.

Maybe that sells. If you've been to Dubai, all they do is drive around and luxury off-roaders. Interesting. I want them to go out of the Middle East, yeah. They got all that stuff. Can I get a quick detour to share a little Middle East fact? Yeah.

All right, so Lucid, American company, based in Arizona. None of that is true. None of that is true. They do have a factory in Arizona, and they are considered an American EV company. Okay. They have the air and the gravity. Yeah. They're going to start making a mid-sized SUV.

Yeah. They're going to first build it in the Middle East, and at their factory they have there because they're solely funded and owned by the Saudi investment fund. Yeah. And then eventually they might bring into the U.S. They're going to build an electric vehicle in the Middle East. That's right. I will never forget.

I went to Dubai, I don't know, 10 years ago. Actually, it was for the launch of the previous Corvette Z-R-1, if I recall. And I went to Dubai. And I rented a car there, you know, at the airport there. And it was a land cruiser. That's what you have to do. I didn't really have a choice. And they said to me, sir, you have to bring this back on full.

And if you don't bring it back on full, we will charge you a penalty. And they showed me what the penalty was. And I calculated at my hotel room later, and it turned out the penalty price for fuel was a $1.40 was the penalty. For a gallon, yeah. Was the penalty I would have to pay. But nonetheless, I filled it up anyway because fuel was. was 70 cents ago. Wow.

And they're going to make an electric SUV. Hopefully it doesn't look like their electric minivan. Yep. On the subject of electric minivans. The Pacific. Hopefully for luck. You pumped for this? Yeah, we all thought, you know, Chrysler's down to one model.

It wasn't looking good. And they showed us wrong. They said, we got a facelip for you, all right? It's a redesign. But no, no. It's a face. Sorry, if you see any other shots, it is not a face. Well, maybe.

I was thinking that it was wild to put R&D into this vehicle and not make it reliable. so maybe they're going to both facelift it and make it reliable. I want to show you the rest of it. This is just the rest of it after the A-Pillar. Actually, maybe after the grill is just the same. I googled this the other day because for some reason I was just curious, like how bad really is the reliability? It's so bad.

Like there's so many threads on every social media site being like, my Pacifica hybrid stranded my family at Disneyland. It's wild. But it's so good. I do Pacific Hybrid to Phoenix and then to Northern Arizona and then home, carried a giant whatever they're called China Cabinaner, thank you.

Home, it did great. It got better gas mileage than my station wagon. Do you wish that it had this front end? No. Yeah, it looks worse. It looks worse and they change nothing else.

It looks like an import, which is the weird, you know what I mean? It looks like a Hyundai or something. Yeah, we were over here. That is kind of true. We were over here. We wanted to buy these things

because they're American. My favorite part is that these are pretty clearly, like they're really high quality pictures of like, that are supposed to be spy shots. They're supposed to be spy shots. Surely they're taken by. Here's an interesting factoid for you.

You want an interesting minivan factoid? After the election where the Trump fellow won, I got all sorts of friends. I got a lot of lib friends. I got all sorts of lib friends. They reached out to me and said, I want to buy a family car, but I want to be built in America.

And I said, well, and they want a minivan. Three different people reached out to me with this exact thing. You have one option. And I said, well, there's a problem here because the American minivan is built in Canada,

and the non-American minivans are built in America. And I think, I don't know if they have union. I think, you got to make a decision here. And you know what happened? They all bought Siena's.

They didn't buy minivans. All right, let's move on. We've got to talk about cars. No, there's one more. Oh, boy. Yes. Cybertruck, they announced that there will be a base model price reduction of 59-9-something.

Basically just under 60K. They removed some options. However, what they say anyways is that the reaction has been so favorable that they have to push out some delivery dates and then they're going to be increasing the price come March 1st, which means this reduced price was for nine days. Elon.

That you could get it on the configurator for $59.99. It's only going up to like 61, but basically that teaser rate was for nine days to get some breasts before raising it to 61. Elon tweeted it out and said it for a very limited time. And then he was indeed, I've had like shoes go on sale for longer periods of time than nine days. This is such a mess.

I love it. I actually love it. I love when successful companies are a mess because it proves that you can also be a mess. Right. And by the way, you can just buy any cyber truck for about $60,000. Oh, yeah. I mean, use cyber trucks. You want to get a cyber truck for 60?

Cars and bids will help you. What's great is if you buy the base model, no one can tell the difference. No, right? It's not true. It is cloth interior, which looks like on the road. Everyone thinks you're the village idiot, regardless of whether you paid 59 or $100. But we sell them on cars and bids and we love them. Rarely, it's fine.

different wheels. I was next to one today, and I was thinking about how Phil Chung told us that people yell at him. That's good stuff. All right, we've got to move on to the talk about. Franks? Franks.

There's so much news. Some hard-heading news here. This is a big news story, and I want to clarify some. I want to stand up for my beloved brand Ford. Ford has made the front trunk in the Mustang Mach-E an option. Although I bet you if you went and bought a mock-e right now,

they'd throw it in for free. How does this option working? I assume that if you don't get the front trunk option, then it just doesn't come with a liner, and so there's just mechanical components there. Oh, sure, no liner. And so it's $500. Do you sell the latch?

You sell the latch? Well, sure, because it's, yeah. I mean, this is how all Toyota's. Toyota EVs do not have a front trunk. You have a latch, you open on its mechanical stuff. And the reason for that is every single press launch I've gone to with an EV, the automakers told me the automakers told me the same thing. 94% of our customers tell me they don't use the front trunk.

They're missing out. The problem, I think, is regulatory. The front trunk is actually hard to access because they're regulatory. You have to get, there's a latch, and then there's a secondary latch, and you have to kind of go under there. Like a trunk in the back, you press a button, it pops open.

The Rivian frunk, you press the button in the key fob, it opens. Yeah, the cyber truck phone. For the auto, yeah, but you press a button in the keyfub, but then you still have to get under there and do a little. You don't. You don't. The Rivians, you don't?

Yes, you do not. I was in one over the weekend, and my friends kept their baby stroller in the front trunk, and he just did it through the keyfub. You can do it through the keyfob. You don't have to then walk up to the car and online. No, it's open automatically. Well, then maybe we're all missing out.

I do think that that requires some amount of, like, sensors, et cetera, to make sure the cars not moving. Yeah. I mean, the electric ones, like the F-150 lighting, it's great, but it's expensive. And I assume in a pickup truck it's a lot more commonly used because it's lockable space. But are they reducing the price and taking the option out, or are they just shrink-flation. Some small price reduction, yeah. Then fine.

But also, yeah, especially- It's like the airlines, all right? Just charge me extra if I need the overhead space or what have you. Spirit Airlines, let's do that. Yeah. I only need three wheels. If truly 94% of people don't use the front trunk, then it does make sense. Nobody ever uses their full cargo area.

Except for hoarder cars, you drive around. Nobody's using that whole thing. I do not even use my trunk very often. I usually just throw stuff in the back seat. Tenon would be so mad. I learned from Kenan. Kenan, like, it could be the smallest little item that could easily fit. The storage area is for storage.

Under the cover so that it doesn't move around. It does make me feel kind of like civilized and fancy to use the trunk now. I'm following the procedure. P-38 trunks stay up on its own? Yeah, well, you have to reset the latch every time, otherwise it doesn't close all the way, that it beeps at you. You know I'm all about finding value.

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Okay. The talk car segment is brought to you by Nick Rochon's YouTube channel. All right. Nick Rochon's YouTube channel. Go to Nick Rochon's YouTube channel.com. You should be sure you buy that ASAP. Yeah.

Someone will buy it as make like a spite site. Like, I hate Nick Roshan. Oh, and Kenan's YouTube channel. Kenan had a video. Went to see David Lee. Have you watched that? I've not yet. You got to watch it.

He went to see David Lee. Doesn't this make you want to start doing vlog-style content? Get in on the phone. No, I was sitting there thinking while I was watching Kenon's video, I am so glad that when I go to car shows, I don't have to vlog it. Okay. I want to talk about a bunch of things to talk about. One was I really love the C8 Corvette, which I already worked into the news segment. Yeah, yeah, we did well.

with that. Good job. Okay. I want to talk about breaking down on a car. The other day I broke down on a car. I'm not going to say which one, but it's here in the office. We're going to sell on cars and bids. Good luck. No, we fixed it. But I broke down. And what happened was I was driving up a hill, car broke down, and I started to roll back down there. And this became interesting to me because someone haunted me, as if I was doing this for my enjoyment. Like, I have no power, and I'm about to have no brakes, and about to have no steering. And I'm and I'm rolling down a hill, you know, with the car off. And someone's honking at me like, you idiot, and I'm like,

and the same thing happened, when my Kuntosh broke down a couple of months ago, when the distributor failed, I also broke down, and it was in the left lane of the freeway and had to quickly get over while I was losing power. And people were honking at me, and it's like, do you not see what's happening here? This isn't like a guy who's having fun. And it suddenly hit me that people don't break down in cars anymore. No. And so, like, there's probably 35 years ago in either of those situations,

the person behind me would have gotten out and, hey, what can I do? How can I help you? And instead now they get bad. Because the concept of breaking down has disappeared completely from like automobiles. Huh. It really has. Yeah. I truly think too long ago.

Back in the day with carbureted cars and five-digit-odomers and all this stuff. Cars last 30,000 miles if you were lucky. Yeah. And you knew how to deal, you know how to fix a car. You knew how to bump star. You knew how to all this stuff. That's so bizarre. I had never thought of that.

And what's funny is we talk about it. You break down a lot. Range anxiety and people worried about running out of juice in the EVs. That never really happens very often either. No, it doesn't. Like, I don't see Tesla's like sitting on the side of the road waiting for a generator. It's as often as people run out of gas. Like, you know what?

But it happens. It is interesting to me that like the response that used to be this like this thing where your neighbor, you know, the good Sam's, you'd pull over and help somebody out if they were brought. And now, like, nobody knows how to fix a car. Nobody knows how to do anything. It's all computers. And the concept of, like, someone breaking down is so foreign to most. It really is. It's fascinating.

No, I don't. What is the last time you broke down on the side of the road? Never. Never. I have never broken outside of the road. Oh, is that true? Wow, you need a, you need a headache. That F250 is coming soon.

There's no way that doesn't have some issues. Yeah, I'll break down. Yeah, for sure. I'm so pumped for that for you. Oh, sorry, that's not true. had an X-5 in North Carolina with stick and the brake lines broke while I was away from my home.

So I have to drive home with no using the handbrake as my brake. Worked if you pulled enough. Yeah, no break lines. Yeah. Would you do that? You'd like do a break job? Yeah, then I drove it to the place.

Oh, yeah, you drove it to the place. And then that car broke down a couple other times. That was close to home. Your Kia Spectra, which you bought for a dollar and then drove to New Hampshire. It never broke down. It never broke down until we ran over it with

a land rover. There was a slight issue where the batteries leads would kind of disconnect a little bit, and then the car would shut off. It would shut off while you were driving. Yeah, and that was a problem when it was on the 676 across Philadelphia during rush hour. But, you know, that happened on the 670s? Yeah, and we were moving, and then the car didn't have, like, and then you stop and you hope nobody hits you.

But it's filling. And then you shake the battery leads and you're good. The one place people are used to cars breaking down is filling. Cars still break down in Philly. Yep. Okay, that's that. Nick, the multiply. It is sold, and it is on its way to the, you.

East Coast. The buyer paid. So you were wrong that someone would chicken out. Well, I thought they would chicken out at whatever crazy number you thought it was going to sell for. I knew it was going to sell for that. I still think it's high. Is the person super disappointed in it or have you not heard from it yet? He has not received it yet. Good. Good. But he's not love it. It's such a cool car. He owns a K car or actually two K cars. So he kind of, he's committed to that life, you know. Bad stuff. I love the Mosulah. I love the Mosulah so much. It is gone. I was immediately at first I was mad at you because.

you trash talk the car right before the auction ended. But I did reflect on it more. So I paid $7,000 for it in Europe. And then I paid a lot to ship it and get it here. But basically, I paid seven for it. I sold it for 10. I did great on the car. You did great on the car.

That is the math that I'm sticking with in my house. Let me ask you a question. We lost money in the A2. Let me ask you a question. How much did you spend on power steering fluid, both in the engine compartment and in bottles in the car? I don't really count fluids towards the TCO. No fluids.

Power steering fluids pretty cheap. Yeah, but that car, anytime you would run it, would dump all of it pretty much. It got great miles per gallon, so it kind of washes. You just keep topping up. I did tell the new owner, Anthony, I said, I topped it up before it got on the truck, but... So why?

But you might want to completely refill it when it arrives. I don't know. Oh, poor, that poor car. Hopefully nothing. That poor car. I spent a long time including power. and fluid from our floor. I apologize.

From what car? From the floor. The Ford was really bad. The Audi A2 sold. The A2, the guy who bought the A2 also was the guy who had my A class, and he even was the guy who had my A class when it got hit and destroyed. It was parked in front of his house when it got hit and destroyed, which obviously was a great thing.

Not for him, I guess. I don't know. He's got real cars and he's got these things. And he texted me and he said, the A2 has been great. It's so much better than the A class. And I'm like, that's a low bar. No, but it is better. We agree.

Oh, yeah. It's a way quieter. He and his family flew down from the bay and drove up. A lot of stuff is better than the A-Class, like an Alantra. Bays. Yep. A Hyundai I-10. No.

Yeah. Q-4 Sportpack? No. Q-4-Sportback is worse than anything. What I love is I saw so many Instagram photos of the A-2 from car shows in the Bay. And the first day he had it. And that's probably more content than the content we produced with a car that we bought. Yeah.

Well, we got it here. And one of the things we discovered when we got it. got it here, and I'm only now disclosing this to the next owner, is that it sucks. No, it's a good car of that type. Yeah, it is a good car of that type. Yeah. The two things I learned, one, I want to emphasize again that I won. I sold it for the most money of the three cars.

It was $100 more. Winning's winning. You know what? It could be by an inch or a mile. I think we're all winners because the cars are all gone, although I noticed the fiat is still over there. The buyers in Arizona, they have paid for it through cars a bit safe pay. just they've been out of town. I had like a work trip and so they're getting it picked up.

And imagine coming home from vacation to that car. It's such a good car. It's so lovely. Great. It's so lovely. And by the way, it's sold for less than Simone. The Doug prediction that also came true,

you predicted that I would be off that car immediately. Yeah. It would change how I looked at cars forever. And that is true. I am off of BS cars. That was not worth the effort nor money. No offense, Anthony. Enjoy it.

No, I love it. I love that car. Well, Anthony didn't pay as much as you did. My new rule is I'm not considering anything less than eight cylinders and less than 400 horsepower. Yeah. Which I realize means no 9-11s other than like, no, all of them are, I guess a cayenne I could do. But that's about it.

You get a crude G-T. You get a 928. The thing is. The thing is. 928. 928. I don't think those ever hit 400 horsepower. No.

Maybe a GTS with a little tune. The thing is, so this is it. You're just done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm off cars. Wow. Wait.

I'm sorry, your P-38 doesn't have 400 horsepower. This is big. It has eight cylinders. It can be either or. Oh, okay, got it. This is big. You're off cars. I'm off BS cars.

Nick has, I only want serious cars that are like enjoyable to own. So if I lose money, at least I can say, at least I enjoy the experience. I got to tell you. It's interesting because once again, you discover something after I've already discovered it. Yeah, I know. I'm giving you this credit. Nick went through what I went through in 2013, 14, 14, my life where I bought a bunch of cars that I always wanted and realized that they weren't really all that great.

You've got that out of your system. And you lost money on most of them and realized it's not worth losing money on dumb stuff. I went through all on my YouTube channel all the costs I incurred. Yeah. Not doing the ridiculous car guy math, but the actual cost. Yeah. Truth is I only last about $1,400 all in if I count like the YouTube content. Yeah.

But the multiple. But still not worth. More of the time that I wasted on this. Yeah. Like we spent months looking for wine. You broke a long beach. It broke down a bunch of times. Yeah.

Yeah, which I thought like, oh, this would be an adventure. Like, no, I was driving a hundred and five horsepower diesel all over California. Like, why? It was cool for a minute. I'm so good. I drove it one time and a guy on an E46N3 gave me a thumbs up. Nice. Yeah.

It was nice to have Felipe's respect for a little while. Otherwise, lost. There is something unfortunate that happens because we love the cheap stuff and we love the Facebook marketplace stuff, although cars and biz is where you buy your... There is something that happens someday where you realize, like, I've got too much going on, and I'm sick of dealing with dumb stuff. If I'm going to do the car hobby, I want it to be cars that really count. I don't mind breaking down on my kuntash.

If I had broken down on the A2, I would have cursed the whole world. It's just not worth it to me. The other thing that it's making me question is, I was big on the, I want to hold cars as short as possible so that I can experience as many. It takes about six months to dial in a car. Yeah. And then you're letting it go. Yeah. If you can keep a car for like two years, like that first six months is going to suck while you get a

dialed in. Yeah. Then you're going to really enjoy it. So I need to find a car that I want to hold longer. So you're doing holds. Interesting. I'm not going to hold them forever. We're not going to open a barn full of cars, but I don't think the multiplas have any space.

Are you, given that you following my footsteps once again? Ford GT next. Yeah, that's what I was going to. So Kuntash 4GT, you want a 993 twin turbo? Not them think about selling. No, I'm good on that one. I want a Diablo, which would continue my tradition of getting the next generation after years. Right. I did own the range rover that came after your range rover for years.

But you had an RRC. I had RRC for like six months. I owned a L322 for like nine years. I'll get a 405 later, but you won't. You should. Okay. They're cheap. Support for today's episode comes from Square, and they've got some big news. At their bi-hannual releases event, Square rolled out a bunch of new tools to help local

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Yeah, there's a screen. There's no more. I posted my video of the CX-5 and the comments are all. The screen ruined it. When is Mazda going to learn buyers? don't want the screen. Nobody wants the screen. The screen destroyed the whole car. Nobody wants a screen. The screen is, this is every comment. And I got to tell you, folks, here's what I've learned. People want the screen. You've been to Tesla? All of these modern cars have screens. And no matter

how much internet people who buy used cars and are not the market for this family small crossover, complain, screens are what people want in 2006. They're used to a small, you know, screen on their phone, they're used to screen on their iPad, they want screens. And Mazda had this horrible knob thing, the interface was a disaster. One of the comments that I took particular offense to, some guy was like, Mazda buyers don't want screens. And it's like, maybe they don't. But Mazda wants to sell this car to more people than just Mazda. They're really hoping to get back some of that market share they've been losing for the last 15 years. Also, every Mazda person complained bitterly about the fact that you needed to use that knob and that the screen would turn, like,

you couldn't use it as a touchscreen. I agree that screens are not that. the best situation for everything, but you don't understand how many functions vehicles have. If you didn't have screens, there would be so many buttons, it'd be impossible. I think that there's a good medium of screen and non-screen, of like, screen and climate controller screen on a few buttons, but most things should be integrated into a screen. And I know that this is not going to go over well with our car enthusiast audience, but that is what actual consumer human beings want to purchase who are buying new cars with their own money. And that is the thing that automakers care about.

Did they go too far, though? Is there climate control? I see the defrost. In this particular car, they did take it a little too far, and the climate control. There are physical buttons for defrost and defog, but for heat, like heated seat is three steps. You got to tap a thing, tap heated seat, then do a slider. It's a little too much, but it's not much too much. Like this is how it is.

Most cars now, you open the glove box with a screen. The glove box, Felipe. And then eventually. Not the C8 Corvette, though. It's got a button. Does it? Hell yeah. A C8, man.

If there was a stick C8, if that's a stick C8, if that's a glove. ZR1X that I just drove was a stick? That would not be a good situation. $1.50 horse hard is too many horse horror. No. Yeah, manuals can't handle over 4006. Only for D.W. To be clear. Anyway, I can't wait to get flamed in the comments

for this take, but I want to, I'm going to continue repeating it because the automakers are not trying to sell the cars to the used car enthusiast, nameless, anonymous internet commenters. They're trying to sell new cars to people who are used to using their cell phones. And no offense, they're not just nameless

internet commenters, they're YouTube commenters. Which is a particular kind of internet commenter that is not better than the general internet. I did realize the YouTube commenter age. Philippe is on his phone. No, I'm the private room for that thing. You're what? Don't worry about it.

I did realize the YouTube commenter age. There was some video a couple of months ago where I was like, and I wanted to have one of these and I had it for six, seven years, and the six seven thing. And like all the comments are like, six seven, six seven. And I was like, oh, this is the age of YouTube commenters. This makes sense because I myself have never had the year. urge to come in on a YouTube video.

So now I know who's doing it. It's 13 year old. The guy that was commenting that I hope your BECM module fails in your Range Rover, he then posted on Reddit saying, look, he's listening to me. And I made him a point. And then all the people started coming in my next video saying, I hope your SOS module failed.

But that's the type of maturity you get from a YouTube company. No R&D department at Mazda or any manufacturer should be using YouTube comments for their user research. Absolutely not. That's the CX5. screen situation. Philippa, you got anything else? Yeah, I want to talk about the NSX that we sold alongside our front of Coinbase.

That sold for 80,000, 5667. The buyer, Harris picked it up a couple weeks ago. Yeah. And he just said the other day sent me pictures of the rest of his cars. Oh, we're going to put him up? We'll put him up. He's got a lot of cool stuff. I'll show you guys in the meantime. Oh, Ebo6 Reichenen, RX7. Z31. Wow. Yeah. RX7. That's in the back of it. There's a, there's a shark nose six series. Shark knows that a viper up there? There is a Viper. There is a view viper. Hard to tell from the angle. There's like a Gen 2 Viper.

There's a Gen 1 Viper. There's a lot of great stuff. Are they all mild up? No. They're all generally nice. So this isn't very good hands. Good. It is nice when it goes to the...

I honestly felt the multiple I'm going to a K-car owner was like the right person. So it also was going on his phone here. Yeah, and I'll take my phone back now. But basically it is joining incredibly... The people who buy the cars are right for the cars. Yeah.

You know? Like in the end. They're enthusiasts. And us are not right for the cars. The cars that we hold are the ones that we're right for. Right. The cars that we move on instantly. It's survivors bias, right?

Survivorship bias. Something like that, but not really. Speaking of car, this excellent, it's a station wagon. I just want to say that. Your Mercedes station? Yeah, my family was visiting, so we had two kids, four adults in the car at pretty much all times for a week straight. Went to the beach, had beach chairs, rear-facing third row. It just does everything beautifully.

Yeah. This is a E-Class Wagon podcast. Yeah, now that you own one, we're not going to get a spot. We all do. We all have E-Class Station wagons of various different ages. Mine is of course newer and better than yours, as I'm sure you're used to. Better is how many horsepower? Let's run them. Let's run them. All right, let's do it. I'm serious. I still haven't driven mine, but... Your car's got two and five thousand miles and whatever else it's got. A rent-tech tune. It doesn't have that yet, does it? They didn't have it from the previous owner. Any updates on that whole situation? No, we fixed a check engine light. Nice. Turns out two wires were replaced.

plugged in wrong and you just flip them. And then it's getting manual swap, right? It does also need the aromatic suspension redone. Oh, yep. They do that. Other than that, it's great. How much is that? I don't know.

Cameron's on vacation at DC Motorworks. He's going to do it or you're going to do coils? I don't know. He's going to give me an estimate. Is it rear only? I don't know if the whole suspension needs redone or if it's just a minor fault. It depends on what's wrong, but it's not a hard thing. It's a fault code.

So it could be minor. No, it's broken. It's, I did learn. We obviously had a human in the trunk of the station wagon in and out and out. And the rear is air suspension, which it is in this and on yours. Mine's got four-wheelers, special. It doesn't really. Dude, I'm next level.

You don't even have massaging seats, man. I know. You didn't have cooled seats, I don't think. I do. It was hard to find. Well, I got both. I got heated rears. You got heated rears?

Of course. You don't understand my car. I got a white interior. Yeah, that's a problem. Regardless, I could hear the pump for the rear. suspension making some noise. Well, it is supposed to make some noise. No.

Is this your car? Yeah, it's my car, yeah? I thought you're just brown. It is brown. It's hard to show up brown. It really almost always shows. Moka Black. Dude, E-Class Station wagon is the best

car in the world. Best car in the world. Period. Love mine dearly and we'll always have it. Or one like it. Which is why, by the way, I am looking for a 2001 or 2000 E-55 wagon with a third row. The ones on mobile. That you keep sending to Sean, we've seen.

They don't have third rows. If you have a third row, 2000 or 2001, that's a facelift, W-210, E-55 wagon, silver with a third row. There's a bunch of these out there. You send an email to Sean at carsandbids.com. S-E-A-N at cars and bids.com. I need this car, folks. The time is ticking and ideally not converted to LPG. Not the Lorenzer one.

Not the Walrenzer one. We've seen all the cars on mobile.de. They don't have a third row. Do not send it to us unless there are seatbelts in that back. And I'm not talking about the second row, folks. I'm talking about the third. Let's move on the market report really quickly and talk to GTR, and then we've got to do questions.

Questions of the best ever this week. Really? In my life. Nick, get ready. Nick, did you see this? Just right before we started the show. We wanted to talk today on the market report about how GTRs are not declining in value and cannot decline in value.

That's a 13 we're looking at. This has got to be more than MSRP was. This car is 13 years old. It had 31,000 miles, which is low, but not like a... Yeah, nothing. No, this is black. crazy. Yeah, yeah. But still, it was 107 sticker 13 years ago. On a Nissan. Obama was president. Yeah. Obama, he had just beaten Mitt Romney. You remember that? Do you even remember that? Binders full of women?

I do. The dog on the roof. Hot dog's my favorite food. Yeah, yeah. Here we are, all these years later, and this car is still bringing all the money. The GTR market is crazy. Flat. Flat. Flat. Buy one of these, enjoy it for a little while, sell it. You ever? You ever? I ever want one of these? I have, actually. Why don't you have one of these? Maybe it'll happen. It's not a fad. It's got the power. It doesn't have the B8, but it does surpass 400 horsepower by far.

Do you ever driven one of these? No. They are fast. Yeah. A lot of people turn them into like track toys and stuff too, but... And I think they look good. They're aging nicely. They're aging nicely.

Performance modifications. Dinos 630, they're hard power. That's like the old one. Yeah. Does? No, this one. Yep. I just love a good GTR.

The main reason I haven't. bought one, Felipe. It's because I wait until they get cheap. I'm still waiting. And they don't get cheap. I'm waiting forever. Although, to your point about not wanting to lose money in BS cars anymore, here's a car you don't lose money. Perhaps, yeah. Yeah. You do a little Montana, you know what I'm saying? Would never do that.

I'm an upstanding citizen. That's your market report. I would just leave the price blank on the back of the bill of sale. We're going to stop talking. Let the state figure out the rest. I want to move on to the question. It's a Nissan. What's it worth? 500 bucks? Right. 2013 Nissan. Every other 2013 Nissan is worth $8,100 max.

I want to move on to the market report, or to the questions, which are brought to you by Nick's nose. You may have seen that Nick's knows there was an incident. It happened because of a paint can. He was... What was the paint roller? Paint roller. It wouldn't come off and I...

Like that. Nick heard himself on a paint roller, folks. This is a bigger travesty than Ryan Lopez's air conditioning. We've heard it's fixed. The air conditioning is one door closed. closes and another paint roller hits you in the face. It does. I tell you.

What were you painting? The fence. See, I'm... You were not... People trying to make me out to be this like... What do you, Huck Finn? West Coast elitist. I paint my own fence, all right?

You were not painting a fence? I got pictures. I did it with my Sunrider. But our fence fell over in a big windstorm. We had it rebuilt. And then I... But I didn't pay extra for the painting because I could do paint. And then I started bleeding.

I had white paint and blood coming down. coming down my face. And we were supposed to be somewhere at three, and this was like 255. And I'm like, honey, I need like 10 minutes to get ready. And then I showed up, the only band-aid I could find was a Paw Patrol one. So I showed up to this playday with a Paw Patrol,

like Nelly-style face bandage. Oh my God. This is so on brand. You are a West Coast Alitist, by the way. I am not. Nick? I hail from Ohio. I know, but you grew up on,

with 16 watercraft. 13 watercraft. I grew up in a town of 30,000 people in Ohio. Yeah, but everybody knew your family. They were the rich guys who had all the watercraft. Whenever a boat would crash over on the lake, they'd say, I bet it was one of Knicks people. This is coming from the Mr. Denver here, the big, big fancy Denver people.

When I was a kid, I never forget this. We test drove a Jeep Cherokee. Wow. An XJ. And my parents couldn't afford to buy that Jeep Cherokee. I remember sitting in the back. the test drive. I was into cars. They brought me along. I was five years old. Brought me on a test drive is before car seats were required for people over one.

And I remember it didn't have rear headrests. We couldn't even afford a car with rear headrest, Nick. We were impoverished. Well, anyway, all the personal watercraft must have been nice, though. I'm sure you had a lot of headrest on that. Let's move on. Actually sat on a cooler for one of those. Oh, one of the boats only had seven seats. Right. So when they were doing a big party, I just sit on a cooler, which of course was full of champagne. Thanks. And caviar. The questions are great this week.

And if you want to ask us a question, you go to cars and bids.com, you click on the community tab. And then somewhere, Filippa's not able to do it. As a result of the light, I really cannot do anything at the upper side of the screen. But you look nice. And then right over there somewhere, there's a podcast question section. And you can ask us questions. And folks, ask us questions. This week, they were so good.

419 comments last week, wow. Question number one from EDAC 33. In honor of your 100th episode. Nick, that's what this is. What were your favorite moments over the last 99 episodes? Nick, go ahead. I'll have Bucke up first. You know, we spent a couple hours a week for the last hundred weeks recorded this.

There's so many great moments. Yeah, like, for example, I can think of, um, well, there was, uh... There was not one moment. Oh, no, wait, that one got cut. I think my favorite moments have been all the times that I predicted things that happened. All right. There have been a lot of delightful moments and great questions. Here's a good one.

From Scottsman in O.C. Scotsman in OC. This is a great question that I really want you to think on. Dear Doug, do you think the Ferrari, California has become a more attractive proposition over the years? We've talked on this show before about, yes, how we do think that,

that it's gotten cheaper, that it's fast, even by... There's a silver one on the site right now, right? But he makes an interesting point that I hadn't considered. Ferrari has now been switching to hybrids and V6s. Well, the California

has a naturally aspirated V8. And all this talk about how all they're switching... You want a Ferrari with an N.A. V8? okay, you get a 458 speciale, or... But here's the thing. A Mondial, which was the predecessor a little bit. I agree.

He goes, has a gated manual. Yeah. And I don't think prices going up there. No, but it's still cool. It's still worth $35,000. I think his point isn't necessarily that prices should go up. He's just asking, do you think it has become a more attractive proposition? I thought that already, before it was framed as a naturally aspirated V8 to me.

But now I'm sitting here thinking, this is a 70s, 50, 50, 50, 56 with a little incident there. Some miles. But these are all day in the 80s. It's an NAV8 Ferrari, and it drives like a Ferrari, it steers like a Ferrari, it handles like a Ferrari, and it is an NAV8 car. Point taken, however, if you had 80 and had to buy a Ferrari, which color would you get the 360 in? Yeah, I wouldn't get this. That's true. However, however, it is a relatively attractive proposition.

Also, a 360 cannot put on miles like this car. Yeah, I've looked at these. I've wanted to like them. even thought about buying one, I just can't, I can't make myself love it. I don't necessarily think it is an enthusiast car. However, I do think there is a big swath of people who should, like, if you're buying an SL, why? If I'm in Florida. You could buy a new SL or one of these.

Yep. And boy, would I not choose the new SL? The new SL and the Audi Q4 Sportback are right up there against each other with day's supply. All the buttons will be sticky, maybe. Actually, this one looks incredibly nice, I have to say. But it's an interesting proposition. I'd rather drive around on a Ferrari, you might rather have a new SL,

but I would rather have an NAV8 Ferrari. I'd rather have a new SL. You'd rather have a six cylinder. I would. He's standing up. He's allowed to. He does things like this. He's probably hot.

He messes with me. Or cold. The air is not on it. I agree with the premise of the question, and I think everyone does on the left side of the brain, the rational side, but the emotional side,

much like the Lamborghini EV, it's hard to create that emotional connection with the California. Someone is stick swapping one because, what, five of them came factory stick? Like literally five, something like that. If you could manual swap it and see you'd have like a modern stick fee. I don't think that that's the problem with this car. The rational side of your brain will just buy a PDK 911.

Yeah. Right for $50,000 for the same year. The emotional side will want something more raw, look better, et cetera. I think there are two things, two points to consider. Number one, I don't think it's necessarily an enthusiast car. I think it is for the type of person who buys a, of Masurty Grand Turismo. Right.

And the Missouri Gintrismo exists. And it's 12 grand. But that type of person dreams of having a Ferrari. Yeah. Like that brand is a big deal to people like that. And number two, the Ferrari 360 that you guys are talking about, you can't put miles, go back to the California letter. The miles, you can't put miles on a Maserati Grand Turismo like you can put on one

of these. Is that? I'm sorry. You can't put miles on a Ferrari 360 like you could put on one of these. Mid-engine, exotic car. The interiors wear. the cars wear, et cetera. This car, the California, which we're off again,

that is not the situation. I think this is a much more daily usable car. You're again, you're correct, but I think it's a styling that ruins it for me. I don't, there's just something about it. I just think it's not for true enthusiasts, but I think there is a big market for it. But then just buy Grand Charisma.

For a third the price. But the people, but I'm saying what I've said before when you were not paying attention, is that the people, The people who want the brand, like, want the brand brand. They want the Ferrari brand. But this isn't, like, nobody. To you, it's not.

But to a lot of people, you see this. You're like, damn, you got a Ferrari. I think those same people that see a California are like, damn, you got a Ferrari, would say that about a Grand Tourism. Yeah, but Ferrari is like the vaunted brand. It's like the dream brand. But I don't know how many shields you got. Next question from 72 Offsuit.

Is it just me or is the American boomer car market crumbling? What boomer car would strike your face? Nancy at the right price, Nick? I don't think it's just him. Yeah. There's definitely data to support that the, especially like the 60s muscle cars, but even the like the Indianapolis Pace Car Edition C5,

and like all of these cars that appealed to the boomer demographic, they're getting too old for it to put up with the bull that comes with those cars. Did you type in boomer and like that whole list of Mustangs and I just had been Ford. I just want to have this. So there's. There's, there is that, I think that is true, although there are certainly exceptions to it. Yeah. The blue chip cars will continue to do well.

What car would I like? Yeah. There are so many. I'm still. What boomer car would you like most? I'm trying to get off my boomer dad, a 67 Mustang that he's got sort of rotting away in a barn. Those cars sound, like much like you like your kuntosh, the carbureated feel. They're slow by today's standards, but like there's just something visceral and raw with it that I love.

Yeah. I would get a split window. I think that the C2 is still the most, probably top five most beautiful cars ever manufactured. I really, truly think the C2 Corvette. And you do have to go more beauty than driving experience. Yeah, of course. Like, you have to understand that that's what you're doing.

Oh, God. It's such a beautiful car. Yeah, especially in that. I don't know those a convertible, but so. Yeah, but like any C2, even the convertibles, even the non-split windows, but if I had to pick any of them, you'd get a... It's so crazy. It was just a time when, like, design was, like, really at the forefront,

and regulations didn't force you to conform to different things. You could just do all sorts of crazy stuff. What would you get? Old truck. Old truck. F-250. Hey, we'll have an F-250. But, like, you know, cool. Was there an update on that? A bunch of work's been done on it. It should, I should be shipped here next week. Do we have an estimate? For the amount of work. Yeah. $1,500 or $2,000? Okay. From Frank AP. Question for Doug. As a knowledgeable car person, what is the most egregious example of a car-related fact that people believe to be true, but turned out to be false? Oh.

My favorite one of these, the most annoying one that has ever existed, is the, this car's only got back sheets for insurance purposes. That's where my head went to. God. That is the stupidest thing that people repeat. And when I hear people say it at Cars and Coffee, two things happen. Number one, I think to myself, oh, God, here we go again. Number two, I have to get away from this conversation as quickly as possible. The cars that have back seats have them for backseat purposes.

Your insurer has a lot more data than just does it have backs? Oh, well, that it must be away. I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'll wake it. It's not how it works. Maybe it was 50 years ago. I wouldn't believe it was at some point, but it certainly hasn't been for decades. Decades. You should see the models they have.

How do they know to send me a bill for exactly 6,131, you know? Right. You were thinking precision for accuracy, but yeah. Huh. Huh. Can you come up with another example? Mine kind of related is BMW, but other manufacturers, were pushing concepts such as lifetime fluid

or 10,000 mile intervals, which proved to be terribly wrong. But even to this day, the cars don't remind you to get the oil change until, like, frankly, it's too late. And those motors all had problems because of those recommendations. And all the consumers thought this was great,

I don't have to change the oil as often. And it's like, no, you're just screwing yourself. Like, this is bad. I mean, it's a great idea in theory, but no one really put it into practice correctly. Also, it might be possible. Well, fluids, it's just like basic chemicals. They degrade over time.

It doesn't matter. I think people often think big old car safe. Yeah. And that's just not how safe you works. Yeah, that's another good one. It turns out like energy, you dissipate and you have to have a bunch of crumple zones. They don't let you make cars out of steel anymore. Right.

Now they crumple these things crumble. And that's the entire point. That's the point of that it crumbles and you don't die. Totally. That's totally. That is another great one. And you see that. I see car accidents.

I saw one on the friar the other day. I didn't see it happen. But I drove by. And some car had been destroyed. in the front, but the passenger compartment is completely intact. For a modern car, it's incredible how well engineered and

designed they are. Does that mean that if you crash into somebody at 20, you might have to have a lot of repairs? Sure. Right. But the goal is that it keeps you safe. Keeps you safe. And that's all we really care about. Here's a great question from Jake D. Mathis 600. To all three, what would be your choice to replace the Dodge Charger Ford Explorer

for a police vehicle, but using a car from a non-American manufacturer? In Europe, they have X-5s. Like in the UK, they use X-Fives. They have Volvo Station wagons. What else? What foreign car?

So if I were the police force, they want cars that blend in so that they can kind of catch you speeding or doing stuff without being obvious. I love the end of the Kronvik area because nobody else was driving around in Kri-Vic. Pretend you're a law enforcement organization. What would you buy? Not a person trying to evade the police? Don't you think it would be something like a Prius? Yeah.

Because you're not doing many high-speed pursuits. They like speed, though. They often have to, like, they're on the freeway run radar, and then they got to go catch up to the person. Like, plug-in-hrier's got good down with torque. That's a 60 and 10 and a half. No, it's faster than that. Nine and a half. Eight.

Oh, the new prints. Well, you sure, but like, you know. You don't want, you also don't want chintz-see. I mean, like, the thing about these cars that's important is they also bump into stuff. A car breaks. Ford Escape Hybrid. Huh? Fort Escape hybrid.

Think about how many you had had miles. This is. And also American. Not. It's still too weak. It probably needs to be a Toyota then just for, durability, it's a fleet use vehicle. How about the crown?

Yeah, the crown's the obvious area. It's what they do in Japan for like the high. Really? No, but for like the state police, so the matter of question that they've found. How about Jaguar I paste? You could get a good deal on them. Save the taxpayers a lot of money. Take the Waymos.

I wonder what percentage of those ended up being sold as Waymos? All of them. Okay, what about, is there anything else that's like kind of a, what about a forerunner? In Hawaii, they use four runners. Yeah, fours are not bad. Usually, like, I want the police department to also be. really efficient with their use of tax-parry funds. And so less, like, if it is a hybrid, if it's a plug-in hybrid of some kind,

if something that has durability, the better fuel economy, that benefits everybody. I like it when the police have big V8 chargers. Or when, like, the time police gets donated to, like, a hurricane. Yeah. Toyota Crown, Forerunner. These are our answers, Prius. The current Crown? How about, like, a Civic SI?

Get a little speed. It's a reasonable car. It's too wimpy. The cops are often using their cars to hit stuff. It happens all the time. They push something out of the roadway for sure. That does happen. The car doesn't need to be that.

The Civic SI is crumple. We just talked about this. They have the brush guards for that reason. Not all of them. And often they push even if they don't have the brush guards. Then that's damage regardless. It's not being efficient with the taxpayers' money. Kind of, yes.

It's the Mitsubishi eclipse. Not the old one. The cross. The cross. Because then you have the space. It's sturdy. Mitsubishi would love the same. They would make a great deal, and they're forgettable cars you wouldn't notice in traffic.

All right. Lexus IS, because I'm looking at what's live. Most people have just a regular IS-250. You get an IS-500. Some people get an ISF. In Aspen, they use Toyota Highlanders. Yeah. Are you interested in that?

No. I guess it's like a Ford Explorer. Yeah. So that would work. Okay, that's the answer. Okay, I want to do two more questions. Two more questions. I stand by wanting them to be easily identifiable.

Two more questions. Two more questions. Two more questions. From Quirks and Features fan, Doug Question, you've mentioned now that you have two EV chargers installed at your house, which raises the question, what EV would you consider? Mercedes E-Class Stationway. Philippa, what EV would you consider?

The EQE-class wagon? I would consider a lot of EVs. But you've never done that. What would actually make you step in? Whatever has the most attractive least deal. Yeah, but there have been some really attractive least-dil and you haven't done it. How have I not? What would make you step in and do it?

The problem is, even though we own four cars, five cars at the moment, things I got on hand. We need a card that can go at least 500 miles range to get to in-laws, which we do really regularly. Yeah. And the lucid air, I guess, would do that. Well, what about just charge it in Yuma?

For 89 bucks a month, charging it in Hila Bend, is that really so bad? Hila Ben's right next to a top of the bell. We don't go through Hila Bend. You should. Yeah, but then you've got to stop in Yuma. You know? Which we do a much for gas.

Listeners in humor. You might have a cute little downtown. It's nice. I should consider more of them. I should. I actually am into the new Toyota Beezie Woodland and the super variant that's five grand cheaper, inexplicably. Yeah, the trail seeker. Because it's like a little wagony, trail seeker.

Kind of into that. I'm strongly considered an Ionic five when Lee's deals are really attractive. There's a lot that I've considered. Okay. But you've never done it. I would consider a Rivian R2 or R1S. So the answer is there's nothing. I could see him in an Ionic 6 because he's contrarian and it's a bit of a contrarian vehicle.

I'm a hashback guy. You know there's now Ionic 6N? Yeah. Oh. That's super contrarian. Because like everybody's on the Ionic 5N and it's a little gear thing. I would consider a ton of, my next car will be a plug-in hybrid. Yeah, you know, yeah, is it?

Will it? Because you said that a long time and then you got a truck that has a V8 and gets two miles per gallon. Oh, that was inherited. Oh, and then there's going to be some qualifier for, oh, well, that was whatever. Fun fact about the truck, it has two gas tanks, as it's common. But one of them, we need to do a bunch of work to actually use. So we're going to use just one. I will tell you, it's 20 gallons, and that's got me 200 miles.

I will tell you, it is so nice in the Kuntosh. Of all the compromises that car has, it is so nice to be able to just pull up at either side of the pump and never think about it. Yeah. Do you have to switch tanks or is there a 80s car? No, this isn't a 40s car. Nick, what EV would you buy? R2, G-Wagon, EQ. basically any SUV that fits like a family slash daily car

it's the only EV application I'm interested in the what's a tell you ride the K9 the EV 9 EV 9 Ionic 9 also something like that would be fine 9 That's a dog they have the K5 But you haven't done that I would also love the EV swap my land rover Okay

I'm not even gonna touch that what Yeah you can put like a Tesla Skate who is you You can't I mean I would pay a shop to do it There is no shop in the world. Nick, that's a $40,000 job. Defender traders will do it.

Oh, it's like 100. Nick, that car is worth. Also, that doesn't make any sense. It'd be fast. It'd be reliable. It would be... It still somehow would be unreliable. I don't know how, but it would.

Nick, how come you haven't actually done this? You got some money. I don't got some money. No, no, no. Not that. You got to talk about for the EVs. You said you'd get an R2. I'm having conversations with my wife.

My wife is also off cars after the multiple sale. And so we've decided to just stay the course with our current. in flea or one. Okay. Okay. All right. Last question from J.J. Silva, 7. What is the manliest man car? Not an SUV, not a truck, car. Charger six-back. Yeah. No. But I think one of those wide-body chargers. Probably. Right? Or like a demon? Yeah. I was going to say the WS-6 that you have in in the basement. Yeah. A WS-6 is about as toxic masculinity as it gets in a good way. CA, zero one X. Yeah.

Or zero one ZTK. I think the tune said before are a little bit more. Certainly an American muscle car. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Yep. Although the TRX Raptor are kind of truck, though, you know.

That's our hundred. Wait, why did I buy an EV? I should have at least an EV. 100 episodes, folks. What an unbelievable experience. This STI is ending, it'll be over by the time you watch this and you'll have seen what happened. 100 episodes.

Nick, do you have anything, any wisdom for the next 100? Well, I wonder. I mean, you've, you've stuck. to the format too, haven't you? Yeah. Is there any desire to switch it up? No. We had Hoovie on once?

Yeah, if we have good... People are always asking to come on. One of the things that I've realized that when someone asks to come on, it means they don't watch, because they think we have guests, and we don't have guests. And it's like, oh, well,

but I'm willing to have someone really good on. It was like, Hoovee are better. Who vier or better? So, like... Whistland is the only one. I was going to say, you could name one person. Who would be the guest chair?

If we could have one... one person on, who would it be? I would have Whistleman. I think you need to have Matt Farrah on because he has you on once a year. Yeah. Maybe for like New Year's. Before we did this car pod, we did live now with Cars and Bits. He came on one of those.

He came on one. He's great. You know what we should have on one of these days? Is the air conditioner repair man, the technician who fixed Ryan's air conditioner. We should. Have him do like a blow by blow of what happened. What was so difficult about this? How we were able to finally get it solved.

Right. Goodbye, everyone.