THIS CAR POD! with Doug DeMuro & Friends! - New Camaro Coming! Porsche Teases New 911! Nick Bought a Convertible Range Rover!

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

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And welcome to this car pod. I'm Kenan. I'm Philippo. I'm Nick filling in for Doug who is gallivanting over the East Coast. Yeah, although he did leave that behind us. Yes, unfortunately. Nice trade of head. All right, should we dive into the news?

We've got a lot to cover. Okay. This is a Buick concept car. I'm not making this up because that's truly what it is. But there's a reason it's the first story today, which is there is a rumor from a GM supplier and pretty verified rumor that the Camero, a new CT5, and a new Buick sedan.

are going to start production in September of 2027. Wow. Which is soon. No, that's really soon for there to be three cars that we have not seen. We haven't seen leaks really of what the new Camara will look like, of what the new CT5 will look like, of what a new Buick sedan could look like. But if there's one thing we're certain of,

it ain't going to look like this. Yeah. This looks, how would you describe this? I like it a lot. I like it a lot. Actually, the was the EB-210, that sedan that they did when the one-term production, and that's what it reminds me of. I actually think,

and there's like, there's kind of a hint of Ferrari Daytona up front. I actually like the way it looks, but the reality of it is, if they're smart, they're not going to do this. Because Cadillac is clearly proving there is no market for luxury sedan

that costs the fortune. I've seen two Celestiques in the wild, which I'm really in Celestique. One in Scottsdale and one around here, but wow. The one around here, that's without dealer tags. They were like actual customer.

It was like somewhere east county. It was kind of strange, but that's a bit of a story. Yeah, I think green lighting any sedan right now is a bit of a questionable move. I agree, but Buick needs cars. And my understanding is that they need to build more cars at that factory to make it make sense financially. And so adding a third model on the same chassis.

Here's what I would do. Does that. Come back tour, Buick, Tiger Woods. They both rehabilitate their image at the same time. But he's going to crash it again. Well, they'll do, they can use that to advertise their, like, stability control. It did work for Genesis. Anti-rollover.

Tiger Woods crashing at Genesis GV80 surely helped. Bring back Firestone tires on it. Like, you can just go all in. Just own it. We don't roll over. We don't roll over. We don't roll over, comma, anymore. That's the new tagline.

That thing looks cool. It looks to me more like a concept car from the 90s. It does. You know what I mean? Like, it's so futuristic, it looks retro now. Even the background they chose,

it's very 90s futuristic. The last Buick sedan was the Regal, which was discontinued after 2020. So there would be a return to sedan for Buick, which currently sells a few SUVs. But all we know so far is that it's almost certainly an updated version of the Alpha Plot which is what the CT4 or CT5 and some other GM products are on.

There's a decent chance there'll be a V8 for some versions of the CT5 or the Camaro. I'm invested heavily in the V8 plant recently. And that's all we know, but it's exciting that there'll be three new cars, cars, not SUVs, cars, and the Camaro certainly will be a performance car. The Camaro is the more interesting one. It's been dead since 2024 model year, so yeah. That's nice. That's great.

How do you save Buick in the U.S. though? I mean, their core market is not being a good one. market is not the United States. It's pretty dead. The Buchan Fission is one of the SUVs. Every time I see one, I think, well, there's a BYD going by. I mean, it just, it doesn't even look like it's meant for our market. All the Buick, what?

Doesn't matter. That little Buick SUV looks so Chinese. That's the Invista. Okay. Which is a car. By the way, if you want a CD4 catalog or CD4V, you got to get your orders in this month. Right, because they're-order books are closed. Close in.

Wow. So, end of an error. But CT5 will be replaced. That's good. I hope they do a Blackwing version of it. Continue to do that. And give it a manual just like the last one. I am excited that they're like making truly three new generations,

or generations for three new models that are clearly internal combustion engine, rear wheel drive platform. That's cool. It's very exciting that GM is doing this. I'm sure their execution on it will be poor as usual. But I am excited to see the day. We love the CT5. I do. The CT5 v blackwing is my, might be my favorite.

Favorite Master's Modern car. We love the Camaro. The last one was great. At the end, it was really good. Z-O-1-1-L-E? Yeah, she's the only one ever ever true. That's just true. Just go straight to the top.

Because it's right. But nonetheless, it is exciting. We'll see what these cars end up looking like. Oh, freelance. This must be Nick. This is the one I'm excited for. So you may remember the LR2 or even the Freelander from a long time ago in Land Rover's lineup.

It was their compact sort of sporty, two-door, actually, and a lot of variants. and sort of a drop top one too, but it's coming back. Yeah, there was. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's like kind of like my L405, which we'll get to later. You know, this is a little questionable of a roof. However, the Freelander's coming back.

It's a joint venture with Geely. It's going to be made in China, which means it's almost certainly not coming to the U.S. Tariff Salone would make that impopulatable. But it's really cool. I like the design language. It reminds me a little bit of a shrunken defender, like very boxy, very muscular. It's going to be EV. and it's probably going to be sold in Europe in other places, too, but start as a Chinese vehicle.

I should note it's actually with Cherry, not whichever company, not Geely, but that's okay. It's a different Chinese automaker that's quite large and successful, too. It was designed in England, but do you have any of how large this is? The Freelander was small. It was their smallest product. This is over 200 inches long, which is like Sequoia size, I guess. Like, that is L4 or 5. But if you're making it for the Chinese market, I mean, they want long.

It is longer cars generally. It is longer than an L4 or 5 rangeover. Wow. It might be longer than a new rangeover, just who cares? Yeah, I mean. It's a weird product. It is an odd product. I guess it makes sense.

I don't know. I'm bringing back cool styling. Like the C, the D pillar is like at an angle, like it wasn't the original Freelander, two doors. It's cool. And if you're in China, like the Chinese manufacturers are trying hard for credibility. So. Yeah. You're recycling a nameplate that honestly wasn't that great of a nameplate,

but it was a nameplate that has got some history and some credibility. It feels Land Rover, but it doesn't say Land Rover anywhere. Technically, the Freelander is its own brand. That's right. So I think that's, like, it's an interesting play for them to get some credibility as an off-roader without actually using any of Land Rover outright. I would like to note that their press releases tout that 200 designers worked on this in England. Because every great car was designed, 200 of them.

It's a clear marker of success. Well, if one is good, two is better, and 200 is 100 times it's good. Right. I think I heard Gordon Murray say something like that once. That is an interesting vehicle. I am glad to see, like, boxy SUVs are like around. It's clear that they've. Electric, obviously, but that's fine.

Still. Yeah, still. All right, moving on to the next news story. Not electric. Yeah. Wow. Also, on the ridiculous category, though. Infinity wants to make an

Escalade V competitor, 700 horsepower. Hopefully not in purple with those wheels. With the wheels for sure. It's funny because Doug reviewed that Nissimo whatever and it came out really questionable in terms of how it came out. But then

the Escalade V looks really cool. So will Infinity get this right is a big question mark. I think what's interesting is that Infinity is still out there. Like we've all basically written them off and saying, why don't you just give up at this point? And they're saying, no, we're going to do an Escalade v competitor.

They also said we want to do a manual sports sedan. I know, that is cool. Which brings me back to like the G37 days. So it's like maybe Infinity's not given up, but they're going enthusiast. I think they must. I think they've seen the demand on the QX80 and Armada, which is the Nissan version. Clearly they've seen the man for sporty ones. They've made clear that there will be multiple performance variants.

There's already the Armada Nismo, which is mostly got cosmetic. But they've said in that interview that they're going to aim for 700 horsepower for a version of it. There may also be a 600 horsepower version that comes out sooner. They've seen the demand for the escalate V, which is strong, and think, okay, we can capture some of that market.

Yeah, but that's a Cadillac, and it's got an unbelievable V8 engine, and it's like... You don't like the 5.6 liter, which is what I assume they'll put in this because that's the only V8 they have. Right, it's because the only V8 they have, and it's how old? I mean, that was... Forever. Right, exactly. I mean, that's been through how many different presidential terms, that thing has existed. What is that engine called?

I don't remember. I can't remember the engine code. But like, the Cadillac is attractive because it makes ungodly power. Yeah. And the escalate is always amazing. The escalate is so nice. And this is an infinity. Have you been in one?

They're nice. It is, but the newest generation is truly nice. Yeah, but how little over the top. You know? Uh, yeah. Exactly. And I don't think this is going to solve their problem necessarily.

No, but while they're doing it, they clearly can't just go after regular people because they aren't buying their cars. And, and escalate V. selling for 168 grand. So all Infinity needs to do is undercut them by like 20, 30 grand. And you're going to get some people that are like, do we really need the Cadillac? Power or sells, it turns out?

Yeah, I'm skeptical here. Manual sports at hand will be cool. Of course it would be cool. People do have to buy it, but it would be cool. That's my fear is that, like, you can build it. If you build it, they will come. I'm not entirely sure if people are going to... You have to assume they just said,

we've already developed the car, the cost of coming out with the new trim model is like fairly, it's a lot easier to R&D that than a net new vehicle, so let's just kind of iterate, although the sports sedan is, again, a weird move. That's a weird because the development cost of that are not used. But they can use it from the Nissan Z. So you can picture a Nissan Z, which has 400 horsepower-ish manual transmission. Just add some doors.

And just put that power tray and use that in the development of a sedan. I guess. Nissan and Infinity are definitely going for what, how can they get the most new product variance out affordably but in a way that gets news. And a 700 horsepower SUV does that. A manual sports sedan does that for enthusiasts and are both easy to develop for them, given what they have.

Now, will they be good? Well, will that save them? I'm not confident about that. They just need products. And Nissan is also way more willing to work with you on your financial terms that they are and give you some really great loans that last your lifetime. You know what this is?

This is the birth, new takeover vehicles. We're seeing them coming to prove. It's more like the takeover mom that now needs to settle down a little bit, you know? And she's like, I can't afford the escalade V, but I still want people to know him edgy. I think Lucid had had that mom in their personal graphic studies. It was like the rugged mom or whatever. Good callback. Yeah, well done.

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You know, Hyundai has obviously the Tucson and the Santa Fe, and it's only reasonable that they just move north a little bit. Nice. Thank you. I see. It's a boxy off-road focus SUV concepts that they had at the New York Auto Show. We already know that Hyundai was going to move a little bit that direction, right? They want to go after the American off-road.

segment, the American truck segment. All inclination is that their first off-road product will actually be a pickup truck, not really a SUV thing. There's clear steps that they've been taking towards the pickup truck to replace the Santa Cruz, which is not really a pickup truck. I mean, it is. I mean, but it is.

It's not a Tucson. But it's exciting that they're going that direction. And clearly they're going after a specific market because here is a line from their press release. That is truly incredible. I love deep cuts from. Philippo and press releases. This is a design concept built on American values

and American life tailor-made for those looking to blaze new trails with security and purpose. And they make a big deal that it's designed in America developed for America will be built in America. And forged with Hyundai-produced U.S. Steel. Did they put like a screaming eagle sound here? I have to imagine the entire grill would be able to be an American flag.

They just haven't finished development yet. Maybe that's a loophole of tariffs they'll have. If you have like a screaming chicken on the hood, you're good. It'll be both in America, as a lot of Hyundai products are. It'll be their first body on frame platform. I was going to ask you as body on frame. I was hoping. Sort of.

Sort of. You may recall the Kia Barago, which I believe was body on frame. Or like one year? I've sold briefly in the U.S. But have sold longer outside. So they did have a truck. But this will be their first like true off-road or large tires. What are you taking?

Put money aside, that or a Bronco. Which one would you rather be driven? driving and seen in. I think it depends on what it actually looks like ultimately. Right, we're a ways away from that. Assuming that it's a watered down version of this. I'm into the Bronco, generally.

I have too. A Bronco Sasquatch pack is cool. There's going to be a hybrid bronco, by the way. We're not talking about that today. That story got killed. There will be a hybrid bronco. Producer Sean killed it. No, I actually killed in my head.

Thank you. Conspiracy. And I do love hybrids, hence my love for the Wrang Lift 4 by you. Yeah, I think I'd still rather be seen in a Bronco ultimately. But if the price point is right and they do build this, I think it's commendable. This is what the market wants. And it will be a mid-the-first one to come out

will be a mid-sized pickup truck, which is also the Ranger and the Colorado and the Canyon sell an okay numbers, but there's clearly a demand for that kind of pickup truck, and it's a good direction for Hyundai. If you cover the front grill, it reminds me of the Resvani tank. A little bit, I do see it,

especially the rear-onch thing, yeah. It's cool. By the way, if you want to see, Doug a few months ago did a, like, deep dive, on a model that he had a static Hyundai, Sean. Crater. He did something with a Hyundai crater.

He did like a full deep dive. And that was also kind of like a tease of this, right, like a futuristic off-roader, some influence here from that concept, too. I am pumped that the idea of like concept cars and big swings are coming back. Yep. Like for a while we got so iterative and cautious and safe

and everyone was just like, here's my bland EV and now all of a sudden we're getting body on frame from Hyundai and we're getting whatever that Buick thing was. Yeah. Escalade V competitors. I do worry that these are all like AI hallucinations. They absolutely are.

Product planners just like, hey, tell me what I should make. And then they're like, okay, now make a rendering and do a press release. I don't think this is a picture of a model. It doesn't exist. No, there was one at the New York Auto Show. There was. Yeah, yeah, there was there. Okay, so it actually.

But with 3D printing, I imagine you can make a one-off a little easier as long as you don't have to look inside and it doesn't have to run. But still, it's exciting. Like, we're getting back to like a heyday of not quite coach building, but like at least we're trying. trying again. Can you just Google the Hyundai Boulder at the New York Auto Show? It looks cooler in person.

Maybe it looks like less insane in person, is really what I mean. Sure, you can know where I am for today. Don't let Google know where we are. Don't worry, they can't find us in the bunker. Any of these pictures that are better lit. It's like a cool-looking door door thing. It looks realistic-ish, too. How is it? Is there a rear door?

Yeah, sure. I guess there is, yeah. It's like an R-S8. Well, kind of. Yeah, those are sweet. Yeah, that's tight. Or a cold name, I guess. Oh, the whole fender moves.

Yeah. The rear end was to sign by Naki San of Rwb fame. Yeah. Very wide-bodied. That name might be wrong, much like my whole cherry gile incident earlier. But you know what I mean. It's cool, though. King of accurate adjacency.

Yes. But, yeah, that does. That's what you guys are here for. You're supposed to have the facts. And we do. And I'm just here. I think that does look cool. I really hope they build this.

I think, I mean, if it looks anything like that, I think it could do well. It's a big bet for them. But given how offering. road focus, the new teller, the new telly ride looks. It's not actually, like, given how brawny it looks, does it the right direction. Yep, which other manufacturers would be doing this? I think they're listening.

Everybody is. Not everybody. Honda still doesn't. The passport, trail sport is selling well. Right. Honda's, are you listening? This is all just a message straight to Honda. This is the signal, Terry. I'll be honest. This is the signal.

They're not. They're listening, and that's why they put a recovery hook on it. All right. Rugged, we hear you. All of their PR was the passport, were hanging from the recovery hook. Truly. All right.

Jaguar. So Jaguar, recently we have seen a lot of manufacturers start to question the move going to EV and start to roll out more gasoline models. We've seen this with Porsche and a whole bunch of others. And Jaguar recently said that they, nope, they have decided even after their little break to go skiing in Switzerland and take some time off to find themselves,

they're going to stick with EVs only. I don't think they have a choice. I don't think they do either. But it was interesting because I read through this entire. interview with their, like, their director of marketing, or managing director, and he said that they're looking back the last five or six years,

the Jaguar business model wasn't working, that it wasn't profitable, wasn't growing, and the customer race was aging. So their solution was to just stop making products altogether. It's a better solution. Is it? Yeah. I don't think so. I think they should have maybe, they should have phased everything out and done this,

but like, I don't know, but the, he made it, it was interesting to read through. In addition to saying they're definitely going to stick with EV only, It's that like there were clear regrets about the marketing campaign they chose to announce to all this. They were happy that everybody was talking about Jaguar, but they said, quote, we lost control of the narrative quickly. It's like, boy, did you. Yeah. Maybe you should have, I don't know, product, like just tested it with any audience and you would know it was going to happen.

Yeah. And then they were, I was even asked like was the color pink, the right color chosen for the concert where he said, you know, we were going to Miami. So we figured pink, why not? That was basically the answer he gave. my fear so I'm not against them going

like building some radical taking in a different direction I think that it's still destined for failure if they're going

to do EV only but you're the person that's most against change that I know I know but like the market

clearly agrees with me here like a lot of manufacturers for the record I think the issue that they have

is they had very aging product lines that they killed they put all their effort in developing this they can't go back to ice, realistically,

internal combustion engine that is not, they have no choice but to move forward with this. Are you worried, though? Or do you think that they're worried about this press image where they have their new concept car, which is very upright and tall and goes straight next to XJ. That's, I can't remember it. Some old jag, which is beautiful and stately.

Do you think they should have done that? No, I think actually the looks comparison is not that crazy, to be honest. It's like both they both have very high roofs, both very long. The new one has a high roof only because of the sides are. From windshield back, like, I mean, that, it looks related. I see what they're going. In that, two cars are often similar looking. I do think it looks better in camouflage.

Like, that was a good choice. That is cool looking, yes. It helps. I don't know. I'm just so nervous about it. I was thinking about Jaguar recently. It's like I Give it the only one.

I really want them to succeed. Like I want to see them do it. I was thinking about brands that are undervalued because last week I talked with Ryan and you about like I think Aston Martin, like I don't understand while some of their cars are undervalue compared to other cars.

Like the vanquish I'm staring at right now versus the 575. It's like I think I might prefer to have the Aston it sounds better. And I think that it's like, does the GT thing better. Both transmissions stink on both cars. Wow.

Tenin. Hot take. Yeah. Especially Mr. Ferrari. Yeah, I mean, I do love the 575, but I'd rather have a 550 than both of them. And I agree, the Vanquish is, it's special, it's beautiful. Yeah, it doesn't, but it's worth less than half of the 575. It just doesn't make sense to me.

But my point is, like, I really want Jaguar to figure this out. It's like, I think they have real concerns about the direction they're going in, but they're going to do it anyway. What they were doing was not working. There was no iterative version that was going to suddenly start working. Yeah, I think they could have done different things to be more. I don't think this is going to work very well in their favorite person. I have my doubts. Do you want to know my hot take slash conspiracy theory here?

Please, sure. They're out of money. Yeah. They're intentionally doing this to get attention because they want someone in China to buy their intellectual property. Keep in mind. So the Chinese want to build EVEs, and they want credible brands much like my Freelander example.

And so they're just being like, please someone take this over. We don't know what we're doing. We're open to offers, but we're not going to say that publicly. So we're just going to make it so obvious that we're not trying anymore. by doing stuff like this. Can I just know that in 2008, they were purchased by India's Tata Motors. Yeah, Tata, yeah.

So, like, that already happened. They already had their daughter at a developing market. I understand what he said. Much like remember when Ford bought them as part of the, what, Premier automotive group or what have you. Like, it's time to pass that hot potato, and this is just their way of saying,

like, please someone buy us. And, like, someone not in the U.S. market, we're not even trying to appeal to them. This is strictly, like, a Chinese EV future for us. By the way, they also have a partnership with Cherry. You sure it's not guile? Yeah, positive. I don't know.

RIP Jaguar maybe, who knows, we'll see. They, by the way, in their partnership with Cherry, sell mostly their old Jaguar product still. But in addition to this concept... Talk about the steering wheel. Yes, this photo came out recently of their steering wheel. Now, looking at this, this, in the year, 2006, already looks aged in...

Can you describe it for the people that are listening? If you were alive in the late 1980s and you remember what everybody was trying to do with screens in car integration then, that's what it looks like now. That across between like a bang and Olson product from 2003, that's like that's the best way I could describe it. Yeah, I was throwing Bose Soundbar or whatever those were.

Boz Soundbar. Which had all the ridges, like, with the bottom of the funeral those. Those were cool, by the way. They were. They were like, you were somebody if you had one of those. In the 90s. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was that, and if your friends had the ice, like, thing in the refrigerator, that was how you, you could tell we grew up in the midwives. Or maybe like a telephone, like a cordless telephone I see a little bit. It doesn't look like anything made in the last 35 years. No, and the screen integration looks like it's... Is that what that is?

I think it is... Or maybe it's just covering up the logo. It might just be a cover. It's got it. Because it looks like... It looks like how I cover up a check engine light. Yeah. Just throw some black tape on it.

I don't know. It looks very ionicky to me. Like this steering wheel and shifter, which is on the stock, could work in like an Ionic 5. I suppose. I don't know if it works in a multi-100,000 dollar Jaguar EV though. Yeah, I'm not sure. A little too avant-garde. Yeah, it is pretty out there.

But yeah, if you think what they did with the exterior of these cars is radical, imagine what they're going to do with the interior of these things. Yeah. I'm surprised it's not a yoke, to be honest with you. Same. You know, and it still very well could be. But, yeah, this is just quite a while. picture and then of course this guy had to film you yeah i like that i noticed that too yeah of course i start a nardi in it and just call it a day you can store CDs here oh wow interesting maybe but fascinating right moving on to the next new story Porsche because this is a Porsche podcast Philippo it is a

Porsche podcast as a Porsche owner yep all right next week on the 14th of some of that Porsche is going to reveal a new particularly fun 9-11 very so people on the internet have gone wild over this photo. And there's a bunch of theories of what it is. Right. Now, to be clear for audio listeners, it is a 9-11 with a cover on a, a Porsche crest on the hood, and the lights are on. Yes, but, but you can, if you, people that have looked closely at this, which is not me. I'm reporting what others have reported. They see door handles and there's only, only the GT3RS has door handles that stick out when closed, the rest flush, are flush with a vehicle. So it could be a GT3RS variant.

How fun. Some people believe that it looks like there's a break where the top is. It could be convertible. So there's some theories that it could be a convertible Gt3RS, could be some other variant. Converbal turbo, do they not offer a turbo? I meant a turbo with a manual because of particularly fun and driving passion. Could be a GT3RS convertible.

Could be none of those things. But it could be so a G2-T3 touring, convertible, whatever. Touring convertible would be interesting. I don't know. It's something. It's something. But that's particularly fun.

There's a lot of people that do think it's likely to be a manual because of particularly fun and, like, kind of going to driving enjoyment. But we will find out next week. Sounds particularly fun. Particularly fun. Yeah. It will premiere on April 14th. Wow. Okay.

So, yeah. So we'll be talking about it. Be honest with us. How often are you on run list? Never. How often are you checking the values of your car? Never. You know what? So my washing machine was on the fritz, and Felipe let me borrow his.

And sitting in his garage, he was away, was his 9-11 target. Yeah. And he was in there, windows and roofed open. Yeah. When I got home and the windows were closed, like, ah, right, Kenan was here. Yeah, I saw this, I'm like, why? Because you still don't understand how to take care of a nice car. He's just not if Porsche got, like, he had the car yesterday.

And I was cleaned the interior. It's in my garage. Why not leave it open? Clean the interior. It looks pretty nice. It didn't look clean to me. No, no, I cleaned the... There was, like, sand in the passenger.

Well, because we used our cars. You're going to use my car or not use my car. It's an $80-something-thousand-dollar car. You got to treat it with something back. It's a 90,000 mile 9-11. I'm going to use it, like, an 8,000 miles of it. And I will then clean it, and I vacuumed it a bunch of times. I've treated the interior leather.

I was treating it nicely. I was unimpressed. It's a sign that I was driving the car. Which is good. With the top open, as you should, in the target. Yeah, but then you close it when you're done. Why? Because you get spiders in it and dust everywhere.

My garage is in the... I sound like more of a Porsche person. But my point is, Filippo, although he does have a 9-11, he does talk about Porsche's a lot. He's actually not very much. And whatever BS variant this is, no one's going to drive it.

They're all going to get it. They're going to take it to one cars and coffee. They're going to tell everyone about it. And then they're going to park it. I hope that this will be a more known one that that actually gets driven. Yeah, I hope people drive. Yeah.

I mean, I think the Curitee is one of the most compelling things they make. I agree. Go ahead and drive them. I mean, people just, you don't have to worry about it as much. I love those cars. It will almost certainly be on the high end

of their lineup, obviously. Gt3 cab would be interesting. Is it a market? I don't know if there's a market for that. Who cares,

I guess? It's cool. But a manual turbo would be what I'm hoping. A manual turbo would be quite something. First manual turbo since the 997.

That would be something cool. That would be pretty cool. Yeah, that would make big money. Yeah, I think it would really. Big money.

Yeah, exactly. It's what they did with the sport classic, right? That was basically a manual turbo. Correct. And values have stayed quite strong.

just clothe the man. And Porsche is known for using limited edition models to test the concept of bringing it to wire. They are doing what Ferrari's not willing to. And they have been since the 9-11R. Yep. We've been doing it for a long time since the 9911R. Anyway, traveling internationally is great until your phone bill shows up.

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to Saley.com and use the code C-A-R-S to get an exclusive discount on your first plan. Stay connected wherever you go with Saly. Okay, moving on from Porsche. Ah, Ford. Yeah. Ice is not dead to use your term again there. Ford just set a new record on the NERBring ring for fastest internal combustion engine. It fastest American car beating out the Corvette X-R-X-1.

1615-590. It's a little cheating because they use not only a race car driver, which I expect a lot of the manual. factories are. But this is a track-only variant. Yes, the public can buy it. They choose who can buy it, but, like, in theory, you and I... Isn't even the normal 4GT? Yeah, no, it's the Mark 4 GT prototype. It's a prototype pre-production vehicle. Well, you could buy the race car version of it, like, if you wanted to be a gentleman racer like Canon and I. Yeah, yeah. So it's kind of a BS thing. It's kind of a BSC thing, but still six minutes and 15 seconds, just absolutely ripping it.

Again, you know, we're America's back, baby. Like, that is so cool. And I feel like the the new Ford GTs waning a little bit, like the old Ford GTs getting to be a little bit more sought after in the secondary market. The new Ford GTs may be like a little tired. So doing stuff like this, I think, keeps that Ford GT like really hot, really exciting. I'm here for it.

Obviously, this is different than the Ford GT you can go out and buy. But the fastest production car, according to Wikipedia, is a Mercedes-AmG1, which had a 629. So 15 seconds off of that, I recognize that it's a prototype vehicle on Flick. etc. But it's cool. I don't know. It's cool. It's a good marketing gimmick. You know, their CEO is famous for going racing.

Yeah. I think it's great to see Ford is still has their enthusiast heart beating very strongly for us all. To our friend Jim Farley. By the way, the non-road legal cars, fastest was a Porsche 919 hybrid EVO in 2018. That's crazy. Hybrid stone cow. This is in the third after the Volkswagen IDR. Okay, well, that's... Moving on, just a fun little factoid there. Oh, speed cameras. Speaking of Europe. Colorado is rolling out a new type of speed camera.

That's an average speed camera. Other countries, the UK especially, has had this for forever. But it means that there isn't a speed camera or a police officer. It's taking the average from camera one to camera two and tracking your speed that way. I have feelings on this. Two things. One is that it's... it is nice knowing that they're not cops aren't hidden out there.

You know exactly where they are. They're not moving, so you know where you can sew down. However, having just driven through France in Europe, having to deal with these damn things, it was so frustrating. Because all you do is you just stare at the sped off. Like, you just make sure it's set perfect. And then if it goes, if you go downhill a little bit,

it's like, oh, do I pick up speed? I want to be clear. If you're average 10 miles or more above the speed limit, you will get a $75, and no penalty points. It's just a cash grab. Really. That's what that admits is that it's not for safety.

It's just to make revenue. That's all that admits. 10 miles an hour, there is a safety element here, right? It's known that if there's speed cameras and a static spot, Waze and Google Maps and Google Maps tell you where those are, you slow down. But if they actually believe that, then they would assign points to it to further deterpio, but they don't.

In a lot of states and at the federal level, there have been some lawsuits about actual penalties when there is not a police officer present. Oh, like in Italy. It's true, but it's been a problem with speed cameras generally where some courts have ruled against them. Having lower penalties changes some of that and makes it more. Sure, but then doesn't act as a deterrent, which doesn't accomplish the goal making. It is a little bit of the deterrent, hopefully, because speeding can get out of hand. Yeah, I haven't seen a lot of people speeding.

Scottsdale has these all over the place, not quite this technology. I was in my father-in-law's old Tahoe and old tires, saw the red light camera, and if you speed up, it gets you for speeding. So you can't just like power through the yellow. So I stand on the brakes, light up all four tires. A pillow of smoke comes over me, and the lady next to me just looks at me like this. But it's like, I've literally gotten a ticket at this light before.

I'm not doing it again. That's definitely safer. Definitely safer. Mission accomplished. That sounds like a nick problem for being honest. It was actually really fun. Be careful if you're going more than time off over to speed limit on I-25 north of Denver. I just hope it doesn't spread like a...

The first disease. Okay, and I don't like it. I also like making up some time on the long, boring, flat highway stretches. Which most of Colorado is. But I also do appreciate the need for some enforcement. Yeah. Speak of something. Let's talk about something cool.

So Lewis Hamilton recently for the Japanese Grand Prix went out one night with Kim Kardashian, who he's dating in an F-40, had cameras strapped it and drove it around like crazy. He did like donuts. He was power sliding the car. He was just, like, having a great time. And I think it further underscores, like, Lewis might be one of the coolest people. He's so cool. Like, not only do I respect Lewis for his unbelievable achievements in Formula One.

He is one of the great sportsmen of the world currently living. But then he goes out and does this in an F40. I mean, you think about, like, a lot of the drivers have to be seen driving the cars as the manufacturer. Lewis isn't out just driving the new stuff. He's driving the cool stuff. Yeah. And he clearly loves the F40. And, like, that's one of his passion.

He's out driving it with Kim Kardashian. I mean, that's a wild statement. He's doing what Formula One driver should be doing, which is when they're not on track, they're just going out and doing insane stuff. I think it's cool. Even the edit was cool. Like, they found a way to make it, like, vintage

and, like, just, like, almost like a street racing vibe to it. Totally. And, like, I think that, like, obviously a lot of it was planned and stuff like that, but I still think it's really cool. Like, I mean, Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kornersh and an F-40. Come on. That's cool.

Yeah. It's not really much of a new story. If you haven't watched the video, like, go out and find it, like, on Instagram where it was, it was really awesome. Yeah. And F40, yeah. The Kardashians also come up a lot on this podcast and, like, always in a positive sentiment. It's very strange. But, like, they know cars.

It's, like, so weird. I would like to know, I would mention someone advises them on the car decisions they should make. I'd love to know who that is. Caitlin and Lord Dysk have been into cars forever. Like, they're, they've, there's been gearheads in that family before they were famous. They've got taste. But yeah. Got a lot of taste.

But anyway, that brings us to the end of the news. It's time to talk about cars. Time to talk about cars. We've got good stuff today. All right, Nick. Start us off. You want me to start? It's hard to even say who should start here.

Oh, no, it's you. It's definitely you. It's always Nick. Tell us. Should I start with an apology? I feel like. To who? To my wife.

Yeah. Probably. So I had a friend DM me saying, Nick, there is a convertible L4. 405 range rover at a Mannheim auction in Pennsylvania. This has you written all over it. And then I DM my other buddy, Troy, who's like sort of the kingpin of this rover roulette group I'm in.

And he helps people. He has a dealer's license by these cars. And I said, Troy, do not tell a single soul about this. I want to pursue this. Will you help me? And he said, this is the worst idea I've ever heard. I'm in. And so sure enough, we get online and we bid on it at the Mannheim dealer auction.

Yeah. And win it. It went for, like, it only got 30,000 miles. Like, it went for maybe a small premium over what I think the L-405 is worth with that mileage. Sure, 20, 30, 40, yeah. No. No, 20. It barely went for 40.

But I now own a convertible ranger. It's done by Newport convertible engineering, who is sort of the known go-to one. I know how my second or third converted car, the other two were transmission converted. This one's convertible converted. Oh, interesting. Yeah. And it is by far the most unhinged range rover. I've ever seen.

I picked it up for you because you were out of town. So I took delivery of it for you. It's so cool. I've been so nervous because it was sold by just like a Chevy dealer. Yeah, it was weird. Like two hours outside of Philly. It was also built as one of two built for the queen. Yeah.

Which there was one built for the queen. It ain't that one. It's pretty different. And also Newport Convertible Engineering has at least four L405s on their website that they've done. So like those claims were just total use car dealer BS. But I've never seen another one in person. No, and it's cool. We all want convert.

We live in Southern California. You want a convertible in life. I have a target. I had a convertible 500. You have your convertible SLR. And I want to take my family places. Like I want a beach cruiser. Look at how the seat bells are mounted in the rear and maybe come to your own conclusion on that.

It's got some weird stuff to it. But I'm like taking this to Car Week this year and we're all going around. So cool. I can't wait. Just like waving and car spotting and having so much fun. I'm taking it off roading. It's so cool. The design works as a convertible.

It's like it has a, like a hip line that kind of, yeah, it truly works. It works great as long as the top is down. The top is down. You put that top up, it's on level with Doug's G-Wagon in terms of worse. It's worse, which is hard. The top up, because the top really goes up like right behind the rear seats, not. Right, so it's like a shelf. There's a shelf.

So it looks like a hearse. I assume you have a video out about this. Yeah, the video is dropped by the time this podcast comes out of as a bit of a bit of, on it, winning it your initial reactions, as well as the other. So I tried to buy P38 convertible back in the day. It went for like 130 grand. I tried to buy an R.C convertible, went for like 150. So this is a deal. It's a deal. Yes. I couldn't, I couldn't not, but I still have the E55 in Atlanta, which I'm going to pick up next week. I'm going to go to DC Motorworks fourth anniversary party at their shop, do a final drive and inspection, and then ship it back, do some other stuff

while I'm out there in Atlanta, but I basically at one point last week had two cars that I'd bought and never seen or driven. I still haven't driven it. By one point last week, you mean to literally an hour ago, you had two cars that you bought and seen the same. When you want to look down the barrel of that camera and apologize to your wife? I've apologized so many times. She is a saint for putting up with me. She is. I've told her she listens to the podcast when you're on.

She listens to the podcast. Now she's a shot to really. She does. It brings us together. But she's my biggest fan. I love her to death. I do have to figure out what car I'm selling eventually. Sell multiple.

She's encouraging me to hang on to all of them and just, like, get some seat time. I know. I'm surprised. Have you considered selling, now that you have a five-seat rangerover, you don't need your kion. Well, I don't think I need two rangersovers. I don't think you need a kyan. It is one car that's going to work. Is that your newest car now?

Yeah, it's newest car. on the lowest miles. 38,000 miles. Yeah. I think you have your solution. We'll see. There's, his wife has not yet seen this course. No way she has to be seeing this.

Why not? So cool. Imagine the roof not working. Oh, and it won't. Getting stuck halfway to all. It is a power of roof, by the way. You know, we weren't sure going into it, but it is power. On its own.

Also, it's really quick. It goes up and down quickly. Yeah, from your video, it looked pretty good. So I don't know what I'm doing long term. I couldn't say no to it. Boy, isn't that true. I do think someone eventually, like, it belongs on Coronado, Nantucket, somewhere, you know, like Galveston, I don't know. Some coastal island.

Somewhere where you have a vacation home and you want to take your kids out to, like, the local. Or it belongs in your driveway. It will belong there for a while, but eventually we'll probably. Yeah. HAC and Incinnitus. Will it fit your garage? I don't know. In theory.

I don't know. God, you have to love me. You think I've done. You got to respect that. I need due diligence on this. Sleepone and his wife carefully. measured and like do stuff from the garage to make sure in 9-11 wouldn't have anything around it.

The reason is like, I don't know. Mostly my wonderful wife, not me. The reason it's called Rover Roulette is you just, you do it and then you ask that it, it's like, it could go bad, it could go great, you never know. You just send it. You didn't need to explain, we understood. Do you think that it's one out of six times

it goes poorly? Like, because if so, you got some more range overs supply. I mean, with the P-38, it's like eight out of nine times it goes poorly. Sure. Yeah. But then L-405, I think it's more like 50-50. Sam did all the due diligence on an L-45 and was like, don't buy these, they're unreliable. I buy it, and then I'm like, Sam,

can you tell me more about the L-405, please? Oh my God, Nick, it's such a problem. He agreed at 38,000 miles. It's probably not imminent. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah, question mark was correct. Yeah.

Okay. I don't know where to go from there. Do you hit us with some rational? I sure cannot. If you've been injured in an accident where Felipe was driving in his 997.2c4S blowing through stoplight cameras and speeding like a maniac that he is, then you should call a mega law group. There are law firms serving clients across California and Texas focus on

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Two, three years ago now. Craig, my early father-in-law, was a mechanic, especially a Ford mechanic, so he did a bunch of upgrades. He wanted to really make it quite a high-performance foxbody, which means it performs about as well as... Yeah. Everyone from 200 horsemen, 223.

But also they were going to do a lot of cosmetic work. It had gone to a painter who then started doing math. It was a whole problem. They had to rescue it in the middle of the night from his backyard. None of this is a joke. They truly went the middle of the night with a trailer and took it back. But now it's getting actually painted

and finished professionally by a real shop. So we had to move it from the driveway where it had sat about 50 miles to the shop. Wait, hold on a minute. So what's the plan with this thing? To finish the project. To finish the project. It runs great now.

My brother-in-law and I replaced the starter while we were there, which was a surprise on a Friday afternoon when we had other things to do. Do you got the cold ones? No, sadly. I know. It was really a mistake.

and then it's going to get painted like a purple color which will be cool a body kit needs to be put on it first it's a whole thing but I spent a lot of my weekend fixing a Fox Body Mustang loading it kind of sketchily

onto a trailer driving it across town but now it is in progress it is getting worked on it's going to get put back together and it's going to be very exciting so we'll have a running Fox Body Mustang in my life story who are you?

Yeah You have a convertible wide body, purple, modded fox body. I didn't say a wide body. The body kid, but like bumpers, not, not. Oh, I was picturing like. No, no, no. I'm not stratband. Make it like a saline rep.

It'd be cool. Oh, that would be cool. Purple. But I am excited because it does. Yes. When you sent that picture to our Carson Buds text group, I thought that is a parts car. It was like it.

You can get a far nicer Fox body Mustang. anywhere. Like, just literally anyone. Yeah. Filippo's just sending these pictures and his brother-in-law's underneath the card. Yeah. I'm like, what are you contributing here? I want to be clear. It was mostly

Jacob's doing. Yeah. I did legitimately help a fair amount, but mostly I sat there and replied to Slack. That's, yeah. It was a Friday on a work day. What are you going to do? Holiday weekend for Felipe. But I'm excited that whenever I go back

to my mother-in-law's house, after we spend a lot, she spends a lot of money getting this back together, money that could certainly buy multiple Foxbody Mustings. This is going to be on the site at some point. No, no, no, no. She's keeping it forever. This is a sentimental task. With all due respect.

It's going to be at our house. Every time I go back to Northern Arizona, I'm going to be driving around in a fox body. Live in the dream. Quite heavily modified fox body. With all due respect to your father-in-law, when I die, I hope that my family doesn't feel compelled to finish all my project cars to honor me because they're going to have their handsful. There was some tradeoffs of which projects were getting.

finished. How many more were there? I want to be clear, because it matters. What else we got in the back warehouse? Including my wife, if she's listening. He was quite good of finishing projects. He then just his health declined really quickly. Yeah, understandable.

It became hard to finish some of them. There is a 67 Mustang that doesn't have an interior or engine. I might recommend that over a fox body, just the fox body was from a collectability standpoint. I'm not a sentimental person, but other people in my life are. And you can't. Can't fight sentimentality. There is a a checker aero bus

that was my mother-in-law's grandfather or father's car where she was growing up they rode in the checker aerobus which is like a six-door three or four row checker there's an RV

there's some other stuff but we're clearing out the Ford F-250 that my wife and I inherited is in front of our house right now it got delivered we got to do some things but it's there it's running great Shout out to Dave

iconic automotive It looks pretty cool It looks so cool It's pretty legit I have to say I need to see a burnout And it's in Before you replace the tires

Let's do it I don't know It has the power to do that It may be one rotation It's like a 6.4 liter VA with actual power What like a hundred? No it's 300 something

It's pre-U.S. Oh right Because it's a 70s It's 73 Okay Remember that You know the Multiple Adventure Tour

This is related But so we wanted to do burnouts when we did the quarter mile strip. Producer Sean got a bunch of baby oil for that. And then he gave it to me in a plastic bag and the track didn't let us put down the baby oil to try to make the burnouts. So many good reviews.

So then we go to the hotel and I check in with like seven or eight big things of baby oil. And this is like right after the whole incident with Pete Ditty. And I forgot and I left them behind. So some poor house cleaner just saw this empty room that one guy was in for one night. and left seven, eight bottles of baby oil. And I wanted to be like, it's for drag racing.

It's not for what you think it is. They assume that was some sort of euphemism. So if we want to do a burnout, we need to go find a bagel oil. I actually think that given that the tires are 20 years old. Yeah, we're good. If my father-in-law's Tahoe can peel all four, we're good. I haven't actually driven the truck yet. It is my wife's truck, not mine.

She drove it back when we picked it up from the transport. They have a great picture. Very excited about it. Yeah, we saw Canon. Yeah. But this weekend was all about American cars? You know what? I'm going to add to it.

It's not an American car. That's right. But I have an observation. So I recently went back to Ohio to visit my grandfather. My grandfather is not well. He's nearing the end of his life. But he has had in his life, it was his father's before his. And he's had it since he was, I think, about 14 or 15.

And he's now 97. He's had a 1931 Indian 101 B Scout, which is regarded by most pre-war motorcycle people and most motorcycle people in general is one of the greatest bikes ever made. And my cousin, Matt, finished a full mechanical restoration of the bike. So, and I mean, it's not easy. Working on free war stuff is very difficult. He's had to learn a lot. I'm really proud of the work that he's done with it.

My grandfather has always said, he's always said, anybody can ride that thing. And so one day we all were able to get together to spend some time with him, which was great. And we all got to ride the bike, including myself. Now, I've never ridden a motorcycle of any kind before. Have you never rid a motorcycle, period? No, never, never, never ridden one before. But I got to ride the Indian, which was so cool and so interesting. So like, I love pre-war cars and the bike I was like so in love with this motorcycle.

It was easy to, once you get it moving, which does take. So when you start the thing, you have to go full throttle on the left handle bar and full, you can adjust the timing. So you have to do that all the way done as well. The kick, when you go to kick it, you have to push down on it until you find compression, then come up and then kick it to start it. And then turn the handles back really quickly so it doesn't, you know, because you're at full, bough, I mean, it's very loud. But I was just like, I was in heaven with it.

There's my cousin running along telling me that it's like, he's worrying me, it's like, you know, when you put it in neutral because it goes first, neutral, second, third, just what I did right there. He was like, just make sure you don't go all the way into second gear or whatever, you know. But I also slowed down a little bit so that like the brakes are not great. They're cable driven. Yeah. So it's, they don't stop like a modern motorcycle at all.

But I got to ride at my family. I got to ride at my grandfather was like the happiest. It was a really wholesome moment all together. But it made me realize also there's not a lot of crossover between car people and motorcycle people. They are generally you're interested in one or the other seldom both, which I think is very interesting. But this bike, I just fell in love with the experience. And it's like, I don't know that I can own one. I don't know if I feel comfortable with how this is what I would want.

And they're not exactly fast nor reliable. It's a total loss oiling system. So it just comes out on the ground. Wow. It's not exactly environmentally friendly. That's awesome. But the experience of using something that old, like, I've really fallen in love with older cars recently. And older objects in general just make you use your brain in a completely different way.

And like being a car guy having, I mean, still had a foot operated clutch that I had to work and like all this stuff. And then you're balancing it as well. Like, I totally get the appeal. Yeah. And I love it. I'm happy we all have it in our life. And my cousin will keep it, we'll keep it in the family forever. But it was just a cool experience I wanted to share with people.

I understand why people love motorcycles. I think if you can get out and ride one, it's like I can see the appeal. For the freedom, it's just amazing. Motorcycles are incredibly fun. I'm not like a performance bike person. No, but that to me was appealing. And that's special. And it's such a incredible way to get into like mechanical engine driven things.

Oh, yeah. They're a lot in general cheaper than cars, easier to work on than cars, easier to maintain the cars. Like, if you're into that, it's such a good entry point. Totally. And, you know, yeah,

yeah, it's a much, it's an approachable entry point into mechanical things, mechanical, like, motorbike. You can't get a motorcycle? You can get a bike?

I love that thing. My cousin sent me one that's for sale right now. Another 31, and I was like, oh, it's kind of feeling, but, yeah, they're cool.

And you just feel like so cool. Like, it was a very masculine feeling thing. Yeah. But yeah, I really loved it. And it's just like a, it's a fun story. I'm glad my grandfather got to Wittance to do that. I could picture you on a Harley.

I think I'm an Indian guy. Like more modern, but sure, an Indian, for sure. Yeah, I can see that. That's more the brand I love just because of that and my family tied to it. Yeah, yeah. I just think it's a cool piece of Americana. Modern Indians are great too. Yeah, Huscavarner base, but, you know, they are pretty cool.

So, I don't know. But yeah, that was fine. So not a car piece of news at all, but nonetheless. Deep canon that the first motorcycle you ride is an incredible. a special and rare one, yes. Yeah, exactly. Well, you just start with the best. The only R8 I've driven is a GT.

Oh, I only driven V-10s and that was true. I drove a mercy once. It was an SV one of four, but, you know. That's true. I've driven the SV and the LP 650 in your car. Yeah, the 650. Yeah, the 640, the 650 for those you know. All right, enough of our news.

It was time to talk about the market report. And the market report this week is brought to you. to you all by Velocity Invitational. An actual sponsor this time. We partner with the Velocity Invitational folks to run some really great auctions while we're there. So if you come to the Velocity Invitational event, you will see literally me,

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If you want to come, you can get a 10% discount, by using the code this when you buy your ticket. You're going to be there? I will be there. Literally you? Literally me. Literally. Wow.

That's worth the 10% off. Before we dive in the smart report, I want to mention a couple of other places where we at Cars and Bits will be. There's a cruise in at the Peterson Automotive Museum on the 12th. That's this Sunday from 9 to noon. Jeff Dunham will be there.

Fun fact. Admission is free, but you take it if you want to show your car. And then at the Long Beach Grand Prix, the following weekend. We're parting with Avants for the Vance pit stop from 6 to 9 p.m. right after Long Beach Grand Prix. Will you be there? I will also be there.

Literally? Literally? All right. Yeah. Now that one is metaphorically going to be there. So check out our socials and our Cars and Bits community for a chance to apply to for an entrance to that event. Come hang out.

And I'll be at the Rancho Santa Fe Cars and Coffee on Saturday. We don't talk about the Cars and Coffee. Not as official. No, we just don't talk about it. It's a secret. Oh, yeah, it is. It used to be called the Seventh. secret car car that was in that inner period where they had to do long time to hide because of the city so anyway

the best car all right um but let's talk about actual car market can we start with the cayon gt s oh yes so we sold uh i don't come up pretty quickly so we sold this o nine kyn gt s for those for those few are unfamiliar this generation kyan gt s was available with a manual and this is the one 34 000 miles 6b manual finished in gtis red which is the color um you were saying there's some ownership thing behind us. I want to give a shout out to Dave, motorcours is the main line. He was the seller here,

but the owner of the vehicle reached out to us was an older lady whose husband had passed, who had this car as his baby. Great taste. And we connected them, and David did a phenomenal job of presenting the car, getting in souls for what is,

at least based on our research, a modern record frame. There's a chance, Doug and I went back and forth about this a lot. He was being very pedantic. There's a chance that when knew a Kion GTS was more,

could be optioning. to more than $97,500, but otherwise, to our knowledge, this is a record price. Not since the recession has one trade, when it was new. So to be clear, it's over $97,500,

which is a lot of money. I actually, what was the next most expensive one? Oh, first gen? I don't know. Nowhere close. No way close to that. I mean, it was, I think,

yeah, I mean, we've sold a couple of red ones. The next nearest one was $32,000. Now, the mileage difference is the big thing there. 3825. Yeah. Oh, yeah, 3825. So, like, the mileage was the thing.

Like, if you want a manual Kyan GTS, which first-gen was the first-gen Kyan was only GTS to be available with a manual, the only V8 Kyanne with a manual, this is the one you want. It's the nicest one in the world. Sure. Manual Kyan's in general. I mean, you get sold a bunch of those Jet Green ones. Yep.

That is the next model, not to be called the 95A, to be called the 9-2A for all the commenters that get upset about things like that. Your Porsche people. But nonetheless, that it's, that is. is pretty wild. Strong result, but I mean, worth it. It is yet another case of find another one.

This one was incredibly well represented by a great seller. It was just the mileage, the transmission, and they just don't come up. And people recognize that. And the nice one never comes. They sell, and they sell two enthusiasts, buy and two enthusiasts at this point. But this is a really low mile.

You got to wonder if there will become a market for manual swaps, right, the Delta. So you could buy a low mile Kaya on GTS. for like 30. You know what? I don't think so. I don't think so. I'll tell you why.

In theory, they're not that great to drive anyway. It's like, it's the rarity from the fact it was built from the factory this way. It's like, it's not, it's cool,

it's a novelty. It doesn't not, I don't think it improves the experience even remotely. I think it does. I think that it like, but I get why. Like, yeah.

So I don't think that like, this isn't like the mercy where it dramatically makes it better. But I mean, like, so there's a, this generation, Nordic Gold one that I see around all the time in Delmar, chick-driven.

Oh. And you got to wonder like, I'm sorry, I mean, rugged mother. And you got to wonder, could she stick swap that and sell it for 100K? I mean, probably.

It's interesting, right? So E46 and 3 is what comes to mind because those who are available as a stick, common as a stick. But people do stick swap them. Yeah. And you get back the price of the swap. There's controversy in the E46 community

about that. In every, dude, it doesn't matter what car it is, the conversion people are crazy. And I do think. That would love, but like they're all, they'll hate each other and talk crap on each other. And like, it's a whole thing. The Nordic gold is calling them crazy.

That's right. Nordic gold would sell well. A Nordicold manual. Maybe that, go up to them. Offer to converter for them. Good luck finding the manuals for them. I'll leave a note and let you know how it goes. But I can't.

I don't. No more cars. Dear rugged mother. I can. I have no more left. Okay. No more cards. All right.

Can we talk about, uh, all right. Last week, I'm going to go back on my normal BS here. last week on Cars and Friends on the Cars and Bith channel, we talked about cars that we felt like we're going to appreciate. Yeah. We're appreciating.

That came out this week on Monday. There were two that I pointed out as I think they're going up. One was the GT350. Can you pull it up real quick? Yeah. We sold that very GT350 for $64,500, which this was a low mile,

good color, good spec one. What was a sticker on it? 64-5 is a strong result and notably up from some other results. It sold for above sticker. Now, granted it was just for inflation, but even so, like, that's crazy. These have retained their value, and they truly are ticking back up. These nice ones like this, we've sold, if you look back at our results, in the 50s, pretty consistently.

And now, somehow they're back above 60, which is impressive. They are indeed, I think, going up. And the same is true for the 997. We sold 97.1 earlier this week, or last week, for... Maybe it was in a dot one. It wasn't. It was a dot two. There you.

For a 997.1, Carrera S, with a manual 20,000 miles for 74, which feels like strong money. I took a look back at our results from 20203, 2024, and even to 2025. And this eclipse's most similar comps. These are also truly ticking up. I say this both to validate what I said to drive people to that video because it's a good video. A little cross-marketing there. Nice. Nice flip over.

Very subtle. I think that both these are truly interesting market results, right? They are proving out that Gt350s and 997s are up, and you should be minding that if it's a car you want to buy. Sure. You know what else is going up? SLRs, L405 cabs, E55 stick swaps, 3-9M-5.

2014 Ford Focus SC with a titanium package. Yeah, just totally. You're going to have a Hibalding here. You're going to have a hoovy-level sell-off. How confident are you that it's SC with the titanium package? No, I'm not. It's a black pack. Because the titanium was a term above that seat.

I misspoke, you're correct. Okay. Fellow 2014 Ford Focus enthusiast, Felipeo over here. I don't know. May I bring up one more Porsche to drive at home than we are a Porsche podcast? So we recently had, so in that same video, Filippa's alluding to, I also talked about this is one of the cars I think being undervalied in 1988, 944 Turbo S.

They built like a thousand of these cars. We bought about 500 of the United States. They're very rare, and they only built it for a single year. What's interesting about this one is we've had it on the site. once before, not that long ago. So it was here. In 2025, it sold for 23-250, exact same car with much better pictures and better

representation sold for 31-250. It brings home my point. It's going to go on my gravestone, yet again, take great pictures. Like, representation of the car matters so much at an auction because you can't see the car in person, and this one was not perfect, and the guy disclosed

actually more than the previous owner about what was, the things that he found with. He was more pedantic about little flaws that it had. But because of his transparency and great representation, car sold for quite a bit more. And so all those things just go into making a great auction. Nor reserve, too.

Go ahead and drive home the point. Pull up your SL-65. Oh, well. Yeah, we talked about that. We have. We have, but, I mean, yeah, my SL-65. It arrived with the owner in Dallas, so it is out of my life.

It's gone. It's out in Dallas now. I hope to see the car again. It feels like it feels right. Is it Dallas car? It does. Doesn't it? Like the color combo, it's a little flashy.

It's like it kind of fits right. But I mean, again, yeah, it's like I did everything I could to represent this card nicely. And ultimately it's sold for. That picture of you caressing the license plate there. It's one of my favorite photos of you. It's up there. Well, it was dirty. Yeah.

Car was dirty. I want to make sure that spot. It had some carbon there. So I want to make it. We're wearing a hat, a Mercedes hat. Yeah. We still got that? Oh, yeah.

I did keep the hat on a bunch. and a couple of other things my family got me related to Mercedes. Do you guys think, as auction experts here, including your chotchkis with the car, does that help? It depends on how cool the choshchie there. If they came, no, no, absolutely not. I don't want lice. I don't know where you've been. If they are things like that came with the car from the factory as peripherals.

Like the career G, well, it's not there, but the career GT, for instance, like, they have little engines that came with them, like little models they had. What about Doug's chrome reflective heat jacket? I don't think that new, I mean, maybe, I don't think I want anybody wants that. I do think that other things that prove that you're an enthusiast do helps. Like the people that have like a prowler and a trailer and then bring you the howlower, or hot wheels with the trailer, like, that's just. I don't think it makes a big difference, but it's like a nice little. I think, uh, so it's a way to signal that you're an enthusiast, so then it actually improves the value.

Bit of tangent. I know we have to get to questions, but I was in Beverly Hills recent, or, I was, I was in Beverly Hills, just LA in general, but I was in Beverlyville specifically, and I was on Radio Drive, and I went to the Porsche of design, and I walked in and I asked them if they had any career GT related stuff. Yeah. And they were like, let me check. They went back and checked and said, we don't have any of that, but we do have some Carrera related stuff. I'm like, oh, yeah, you don't understand. All right, never mind.

Can I give one more market update? Absolutely, you can. All right. I sold by BBSLM wheels. Oh. They've arrived to the new. new owners. Turns out, BBSLMs are worth money. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It really just proved that I don't understand the modification industry at all. But they're sold. The guy who bought them is phenomenal.

He actually reached out to me when I first bought the car and talked about it and then reached out again when I put them up for sale. And you're going to use the proceeds to refinish your OE wheels? I'm going to use the proceeds to offset my cost of purchase for the car. Yep. Oh, you're never going to own his car, right? He's thrilled with them. I'm thrilled that he has them. He's putting them on his 997 as well. It's exciting, but I don't understand that market in the least. I love them are legit, dude. Yeah, they look great on the car.

I'd love the OEs because I'm an OE. Between you telling everyone to slow down and obey traffic laws. I know. I'm not. Take off your wheels. Yeah. Take off your wheels. Well, you can't speed without wheels.

Yeah. That's true. Oh, man. Well, I'm glad that you're able to get rid of those and they went to a good home. They went to a great hope, and I'm incredibly excited. Cool. All right. Well, I think that's the market report.

That is the market report? It's time to take some questions, though. All right. We have some questions, questions. Questions, questions. Questions are brought you today by Nick's convertible Range Rover. Problematic choices for a problematic man. I'll take it.

Yeah, that's fair. If you have a question, you can ask it in the community post. How are the questions this week? Sean, our producer, reviewed them. So this selection is courtesy of him. Normally Doug goes through every single question and choose this side. I didn't see them in the pod dock. I trusted Sean to do it today.

I didn't see them in advance because he added them minutes ago. All right. We're going to do it live. All right. Okay. If Nick is this from. This is from Super M3 GTR 1721. Okay.

Thank you for asking. If you had Middle East Prince level money, which brand today that exists now would you first approach to make a one-off car? I added some things. I mean, wouldn't you just go straight to the top? And it's like, I mean, I would go to Ferrari and ask them about once. Let's be honest, most of the stuff they built is one-off, kind of. I don't know, I'd go to Ferrari.

I'd go to Ferrari. Something with a manual, V-12 and a manual. Daytona SP3 with a six-speed. You know what they would say? How much? No. I'd say how much? No.

I think if you gave them enough money, I think they would. Only to, like, agreed to never have it be seen in public and never drive it and... Well, they don't have to find out. Nick, what's your... I think a one-off Ferrari, though, that's like... That's pretty real. That's pretty serious. You get the air clapped in car?

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. I think I would have to go Lamborghini since he already took Ferrari. I still want a Reventon, so I would say, like, make me a new one. Or make me a stick of Ventador, something like that. Stick Eventador, interesting. It should be doable. But I wouldn't... No, not yet.

It wouldn't be like... They would have to find a manual that... Yeah, it still seems to me like... It's very doable, but no one's done it yet. Or honestly, what the one guy did with the, I know it was just a spec, but on his, on his shiron,

the paid homage to the original Varon. Yeah, stuff like that. That was really cool. That was pretty cool. It's your pagoddy would be crazy to overlook. Yeah. An EB 110 SS revival. Oh, yeah.

With like some level of reliability. Same with the XJ 220, but again, like with some level of modern refinement. Yeah, put the V12 in it. You know what Jaguar is desperate enough for money, They might. If you brought them some components, they might put it together for you. Would sell more than the Project Zero Zero, whatever they're naming it.

Which might be called the GT, apparently. Now, you're the most, I'm most curious what you're going to say about this. Prepare yourself for something contrarian right here, folks. I would go to Volvo and ask them to it. Interesting. I would just bring sob back to $8.50. The answer that I was going to give, which I'll give anyways. You know how Porsche has been doing their like, wish, like, we saw that high end that was,

re-engineered by Porsche. I would go to Fiat and say, hey, the multiple was pretty great. But I want to be a little better. Can you go out, use the original design? Won't take much effort. Just make it a little bit, a little bit nicer, a little bit better.

So, one-off Ferrari, converted manual Lamborghini of some kind. Better multiple. And honestly, we all chose Italian automakers. Just said something. That is interesting.

I'm really surprised. There's a lot of room for improvement. They make the coolest stuff. Yeah. I thought it was going to say what brand would you bring back. Like you could go buy the defunct brand like a Jaguar.

I would buy Saab. Yeah. Dozenberg. To be clear, I don't think I have a way to Saab make money, but I'll try. Neither did they in the end. So true. All right, next question is from Century Bug. What's your learning manual story?

Ah. Yours seem, I vaguely know yours. You should answer. I want to know when Nick plans to learn how to drive a manual. That's the question. But, Kevin, please go ahead. Plans it or?

Have you ever been with him in a car? When I'm having fun, I sometimes dump the clutch intentional. Sometimes he stalls while trying to have a reputation. No, that never happened. That's well, okay. Never seen worse manual driving. All right, go ahead.

Interesting. So I learned how to drive in an NC Miata. The hardtop, the folding hardtop one, my uncle had one. And it took me to drive, I spent, we spent an afternoon driving that. I also, we drove to the Fiat dealership. This was before the A-Barth

came out and I wanted to see if it was there. And they happened to have a 500 prima dezione. Nice. And they let me go drive that, which was also a manual. It's a really easy manual drive. It was, but I got to check off two minutes and, you know, I got to learn on Fiat, you know, the dealer demonstrator. The best way. Which was good, only

stole it twice, I think. But that was how I learned how to do it. And then I didn't drive manual for like a year after that. And then I made sure basically every car owned until the Mercedes are all manuals. My next car will be too. So that's how I learned. But yeah, Ensi Mioda. A good car to learn on. Very forgiving, you know, it starts easily, too, when you install it.

Yep. Good first cars. Did everyone else the FIFA 500 factored into your life? It did. It did. I remember that car. Well, what about you? Where'd you learn?

I learned a couple places. Like at the simultaneous time, one is my friend Tristan. His parents had a V-70 manual, so a Volvo wagon that was a manual, which was available briefly, and a golf, a Markford golf manual. So I drove that Markford golf around a bunch. I think the first actual time was with my friend's dad, Pete, shout out to Pete Newell. They had a Mazur Prodigy 5 manual, and so we went out driving for a while.

So you learned on kind of interesting cars. Yeah. Not valuable cars, but good cars. Okay. And where'd you learn? It was an early 90s, I want to say 91 Nissan Hard Body pickup. Yeah. My neighbor had it mostly for gardening, so it smelled like some combination of like fertilizer manure.

It's what you do in Ohio. Yeah. Midwest generally. Yeah, no, it was a truck that you. You only drive in the spring to the garden. She still has it and was like texting me the other day because the exhaust rotted out and no one would repair it because the car's worth less than the piping to do this. And was like, can you please help me? And I'm like, I'm sentimentally attached to.

But I learned to drive on that. I no one ever taught me. She just like gave me the keys and was like, it's the best way. You want to learn manual. Go for it. So I got pull over very early on because I was blowing stop signs just in second because I didn't want to go down to first and wristalling out. And so the cop let me off. They was very nice, kind of understood.

And then I kept forgetting to take the parking break off. And so when I returned it to her, the parking brake was just decimated. I had to, like, go around with like a brick in the trunk and use it as a parking chalk. And then, you know, apologize and replace her parking break for her. This is the most Nick story imaginable. Because I can picture you're doing that today. Yeah. It has happened once or twice since.

But that whole story is so you. That's perfect. The car's still out there. Actually, it was just the family friend we were just with like two weeks ago in Florida. So she still got it. Very cool. Hit us with another question, Leap. This is the question just for Doug and or Felipe.

So I'm sorry, neither of you can answer. If you were broke, what cheap daily would you get to drive around? And Nick, that means so broke that you can't afford the maintenance on a P38. The car may be free, but you still can't afford it. It isn't for everyone. I'll give you that. What you guys got? Honestly, I think that a lot of my actual, actual cars apply.

I had a 2014 Ford Focus Hatchback with a stick. And those are the only problem that those cars have, really, is the automatic transmission, the dual shift or whatever they call it. And so if you have a manual one, they're incredibly reliable, they're incredibly efficient,

they're more comfortable than you'd expect, they're capable for doing long trips, they're pretty fun to drive, and I would 100% go back to one. So you're talking like five grand and below, basically, in essence, what car would you buy for five grand and below? Buy some of that,

because they're also underappreciated. Like a lot of $5,000 cars, If you want in a court or a civic or whatever, you pay a large premium because those are known for being quite reliable. The Ford Focus of that generation doesn't have that reputation, but it's all because of a single point of failure that you can avoid. Not all, but it's largely clear that. I think in general one thing I have learned,

and we talked about this a couple podcasts ago, is that a lot of these survivors, like Chrysler, like products, low mile jump, like you can buy low money. They're not worth anything. And I think, and those are cool and interesting. It doesn't it doesn't they don't have many miles on so how unreliable can they be? No comment. I think they're interesting. I mean you fix them for not a whole lot of money. Yeah, a lot of these cars. I don't really know what to search for to bring this up which what example. A lot of your save search is like that actually no, a cay and turbo you can give like 10 15 years. Can you?

Or like an ML 55 you can buy for about a line 5 grand. Oh, ML 55 is a good one. Oh, you know what I mean get the 500 and you have locking deaths. Do you remember this C55 a C55? A C55 GMs are really inexpensive in that, like, general. I mean... This is starting to become bad financial advice. Yeah. Like, I still think the move is the cheapest EV you can lease. Oh, what? Oh, like, 150 bucks a month, 200 bucks a month.

You can have something... No maintenance costs. It's like, you don't have to take $5 grand out of pocket. You're just cash filling $200. I don't disagree with anything. That's true. That's a good point. Moat some lawns, clean some pools.

You'll pay that off. I do legitimately, for especially car people, do feel like, Kenon, to your point, the not as well known for, being reliable brands often have reliable cars that you need to know a little bit more about. And that's a great move. Oh, that LW1. Yeah, this one, I mean, there's a good example.

There you go. I wish someone would do a review on Saturn. Also, it won't rough. Saturn. I know. I don't know. I was a nice. Look how nice this one was.

Like, yeah. That's a nice, like, well-capped car, but nobody cares about these. That's 71,000, 72,000 miles. Yep, that is an excellent choice. I can't see you in one, but that's an excellent. No, no, but like in that situation, like, yeah, I think that's a great choice. Sub 5 grand, 3,700. I picked the manual car, but it's okay that you picked an automatic.

Well, you know, beggars can't be choosers just, I guess, but like, I mean, here, look. There you go. Yeah. Love these. That's a great easy question. You can still participate in rad wouldn't be like, cool. I know it's a little bit beyond the age, but you'd be accepted. Steal a Kia or high-on-di using a USB drive.

That's also an option. It's illegal. Great consumer advice with Nick as usual. All right. We're going to do two final questions. One of them is going to be very, really quick, but it's a good question. From Z-51 Singray, why do you call the Varon the Vey, when the better option would be the Ron? Because Ron is a guy who shows up to, like, it's like a plumber's name.

Like, I just want to, like, the Vey is like there's no, you know what I'm talking about when I say the Vey. It's such a ridiculous name anyway. I know it's named after their test driver and stuff like that. Is it? The Ron is just like, not at the oak I'm looking for for a supercar of that magnitude. The concord of our automotive generation, you know? Fair. Yeah, I agree.

Ron is a nice guy. He's helpful. In college, I rushed to frat, and they mistakenly wrote down my name as Rick instead of Nick. And it's stuck for like a year, and I couldn't convince them. And I don't know why, but like, Nick is such a better name than Rick. Yeah. Like, I feel the same way with Ron. Like, Vey is just a better name.

I don't know how it's like to do. It just feels right, you know. You're just against the letter R. Yeah, unless it's the last name. All right, I'm going to take a variant of Tucker Beattie's question. He asked specifically what is worse, the P38 or the L320. But the question I'm going to change this to because I want to raise the faith of the internet is Nick and only Nick. Please rank the Ranger of our generation for best to worse.

We've been asked this previously. Yeah, we never got your take. We never got Nick's take. Which boy will it be wrong? Yeah, I don't. That is a tough one. I love them all. This is like picking your favorite child.

I know it's hard. You're going to put P38 is number one, which is wrong. No, I do think, I feel strongly the P38 is better than the RRC and the market is wrong. Okay. The P38 is a better RRC in every way. Just doesn't look as old. That's, it's only downgrade. And keep going, please.

I think the L405 is the best. Okay, especially in Cabriolet format. It's just such a good value. Yeah. The L322, I've never driven one, so I don't know. Where are you going to put it? So I'll put it slightly above the P38. So I'm going 405, 322, RRC, and then the new one can be last.

Z, I don't know. The L460. Yeah. Wow. That's a surprisingly not that controversial take. I really thought we were going to have P38 at the very top. You know what? I forgot he just bawled.

I've spent months. trying to get this P-38 check engine like to go away. Months. Like, I plan to release a video on this, like, a year ago. And I'm still battling it. And I think it's finally getting me to my, like, a little bit off the P-38 high horse. Thank God. I, like, I'm stunned that you're stunned.

Sorry, this is going to be difficult. Like, you were given a P-38. Yeah. What did you think was going to happen? We all told you. You said this in the entire car. We were all in the same car at the time. erupted saying, Nick, don't do this.

I agree, although it is like a weird sentimental thing. My kids ask- Yeah, but get one that is like nice. I should have done that. No, because he would have still spent the 15 grand in maintenance on it. Just he would have had to also pay for the car. Yeah, I do agree that a nice one is still going to be expensive to own. But yeah, had I won that the other Barago one there, that 10,250, I was the underbitter

at 10 grand. That might have been a better starting point. Yeah. Have I proven nothing to you? You start with a nice one, make it nice. What's great about the P38, too, though? You can work on it so easily. Like, I did the injectors myself.

I did all these things myself. Yeah. It's compared to, like, the Arnaug, it's just so DIY friendly. And look at that thing. What are you into your P38? It doesn't matter. Can you share what you told our friend group earlier today? What color do you think you might wrap in the P-38?

My buddy has a Tesla that got wrapped into you. So I hit them up and I'm like, hey, what did they charge you? And then I reach out to them for $1,350, they will wrap it yellow. And it's not using like S-Stack or Expell. It's like Cheetah or something like that as the brand. Great. And for an extra $100, they'll meet me at the border and do that part themselves. But I kind of want to like...

You have a yellow one. The P-38 looks like the easiest to wrap car I've ever seen. So I don't think you could screw it up that bad. And like, then I could have... my yellow one back again, but without... You never should have sold this card. You sold it too soon. Would you go for Vitesse yellow or Borego yellow?

I think I go Brego. They're the same. Let me put it to this way. No, I think they're different. Cheetah is not making... It's not... It'll be it with whatever Cheetah makes. Yeah, bright yellow.

Fair enough. The Vitesse, by the way, was A-A-A-yellow, apparently. Yeah. You should choose a better color. Yellow? What if you... Do those cheetah offer cheetah print? I don't know.

Because that's like a little yellow. I think they charge extra if it's a print. And I don't want to spend any way. more than I have to on this car. You can't make it a color that was sold by the company. Like Michael Jordan's P-38 is also appealing, but yellow's kind of my thing. We have to end this conversation.

We have to end up in aneurism. We really do. All right. Nick, thank you for joining us. A pleasure is always. Are we saying thank you for that? He still wonders why he's called Crazy Nick. I know.

This podcast is perfect. A very rational human. All right. Well, thank you for listening to what is certainly the best ever podcast. Best podcast we've ever done. We'll be back. Right. Normality will insert.

And I will be gone. Goodbye. Rest and peace. All right. Thank you also for watching and listening. Goodbye. Goodbye.