THIS CAR POD! with Doug DeMuro & Friends! - NEW Shelby GT350 with over 800 Horsepower! Doug and His Problem with Porsche?

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

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And welcome to this car pod. I'm Kenna. I'm Philippo. And let's get into the news, starting with the big one. Oh, yes, there is a new Mustang GT350. Now, we love the previous generation GT350 and the R. Amazing car, flatplane crank V8, manual transmission killer. This does not use that engine.

This uses a supercharged version of the Coyote V8. And it makes 810 horsepower. 810 horsepower from the new GT350. That's a lot. Are you aware that the old GT 500 had 760 horsepower? The old GT 350, didn't the old GT 350 have like 560 or something? That high a number, yeah. So they've radically leapfrog the horsepower count.

Yeah. I mean, again, it's not N.A. Has a supercharger. So naturally. But like the world, if this is the GT 350, what will be the GT 500? A thousand. It's got to be a thousand. You have to imagine.

A thousand. I mean, probably a Mustang. Isn't it what like the Corvette? Crowds look out. That's what they use to kill people in crowds. It is crazy. It's a crazy power number. I'm also surprised to see that this car is being built by Shelby and kind of marketed and specifically directed by Shelby.

Can you explain that to me? Ford is not announcing this. If you go on Ford's website, they still have the old GT350 showing on their site. I don't know, but it's if you go on Ford. If you Google Ford Shelby GT350, like there's web pages that still have it up on Ford's website. But they're not talking about the new one. Shelby American is built. this specifically and it's going to have the power train warranty from Ford.

So it's done with their blessing, but it's obviously not like the old one was kind of more of a mass market Ford made it, Ford developed it car. This is purely a Shelby thing. Ford has the Dark Horse instead, but it makes you wonder if Ford is getting out of the Shelby Mustang game and focusing on Dark Horse and GTD. Right. Now, I imagine you'll be able to buy it still in Ford showrooms. I imagine you will, but I bet it's going to be pricey and it probably will not have the same

like widespread like appeal and sales numbers as the old one did. It is pricey. Base is 109995. Wow. That's no way. Yes,

that is. Yeah. So they haven't, they are also doing an R version of this car, but they're only building 36 of those. The GT 500. The GT 500 is like an $80,000 car.

The Mustang Dark Horse with options is in the 80s too. Right. Everything's gotten more expensive. That's crazy. So the GT350, as we know it, is gone. It has morphed from a

500 horsepower car that Ford sells at 60 grand to a Shelby built like special kind of limited project that's going to cost $130,000 and have 800 horsepower. Here's the question. Ford's out of this game. The last GT350 and Gt350R impressed

everybody with like that the engine was special with 5,000,000 38. The handling from your review was exceptional, which is not what you expected at the time from a Mustang. Do you think that this will live up to that? Do you think they went too big on power? Because the Gt 500 didn't get that same like handling a claim.

Well, to be clear, it's not just power, obviously. Sure. They did a lot underneath to, yeah, to make it handle the power. And this one, I believe, is also, it's available as a manual and an automatic, which the last one is. I just don't view this in the same league as the album. Like, it's by name alone, it's kind of similar. But other than that, they've really messed with.

I think Ford has clearly taken a step back from this. Mustang sales haven't been strong. They don't want to invest a huge amount more in Mustang sports car clearly. And so they let Shelby run with this and they're saying we're out. You know, Ford does this. The Shelby brand has. kind of come and go on with the Mustang over the years. There have been entire generations that either

didn't offer it or offered it in very small numbers. And then the last gen, they really blew it up again. Cobra was a big name that they used for years and have stopped using for a while. Maybe they're taking a little hiatus from this kind of thing. But this is a different GT350 than the one we know. It's not just a replacement. This is like a totally different world.

Price, power, the way it's being distributed. This is a totally different thing. Remember the Hellcat came out and it had 707 horsepower? And we were all like, that's insane. No car lover. have more. And then we kind of accepted that like EVs would have more power. Yeah. And now this has 800

whatever. Well, to be clear, this car costs a lot more than the Hellcat generation when you and me almost crashed street speed 7-1-7. Distinctly remember. My God. I can't believe you were in the car. In the car. He was in the back seat, too. He would have been the one to have on the other side of the truth. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, I see what you did. Like you crash,

the cars on fire, the door people get out. It is the downside of two-door coupes. I'm not saying he was expendable, but I'm saying it would have been hard to get them out. Yeah, it was crazy when that car came out. And yes, now a lot of stuff has $800,900,000 horseback. But including gas cars, including gas cars.

Yep. Whole new world. Indeed. Speaking of a whole new world, our next news story, ha. Oh, yes. 30-year-old Ferrari. Yes. What's the news?

The mighty F-40 is always news. But this one is specific. So this car has been, this one, if you look closely, is not a stock F-40. It looks like the wheels are bigger. This one has been played with a company called is it offician? Is that how it's pronounced? Fiorveranti.

So this car, the idea with this is very similar to what was done with your career GT. Keep the recipe larger to the same, make it visually, basically identical, but make it useful. No, it's still red. Anyway, so this car has upgraded dampers that is Olin's TX 36 dampers,

which give it a lot more, they have internal reservoirs and they're much more compact to actually use in Formula 3 cars, which is a thing that you didn't know about. This car also critically has upgraded brakes, both six piston in front and four piston rear brakes. That's why that's bigger wheels.

Hence the bigger wheels, correct. That is 18-inch front and 19-inch rears, which come on a choice of Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 or P.0 Taurus if you still want to die. And this car also... More than this, though. More than this, though... I don't like Pirelias.

But it also has a hydraulic steering servo assist to make the steering faster so you can catch it more. So what do you think this is like a good resto mod? Like a well executed? Well, the timing is something after the two accident videos come out and then all of a sudden here's a car that, you know, has been healed, if you will, from its handling issues. You know, I'd like to just sit here and say, thank you, Kenan, for validating the decisions I've made on my career GT, as my career GT is in fact

exactly this. The car just improved. Interesting. Improved. Better suspension, better tires, heated seats. I thought Kenan was referring to when you sent it back to Porsche to get. The only reason I left, let him leave this news story in here is because I, I think at its core, this new story is validating who I am. Does it have heated seats? Does it have heated seats, Kenan? No. Actually, your car has heated seats. This car? I don't think they didn't change anything. Like, the engine is the same. They didn't mess around with. But they modernized it in a way. And this is true, to be honest, okay, supercar makers are not manufacturing cars that analog car enthusiasts are interested anymore. The way to stay up with the way

to keep these cars fresh is to do this kind of stuff and to do what I did with microRGT. There's people on RunList who are like, you're messed with the suspension. How could you do that? Well, the suspension's 20 years old. The technology is 20 years old. We can improve it. Same with the tires. I don't run the same crappy tires that it had when it was new, right?

We have new tires on there. And that's how you do it. I think if you want to enjoy analog cars in the modern era, and I'll tell you something, microRGT handles like a pista. It truly does now because of those upgrades. And I bet this is significantly improved too. And by the way, brakes is the number one thing in F40 could use. Yeah.

Which has always been something they did. I mean, the F40 LM had break. And that's a very common modification to add the LM brakes to in F40. Then you have to do the wheels too. At least these wheels look, they're a little large looking. No, they look fine. But they look fine. Terrible.

Wouldn't even consider it. I wouldn't even consider it. Look, it looks like you're riding on F40 on docs. Look at that in there. That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. Why don't you put some of those two-spoke bar across wheels? At least the design looks appropriate.

Hey, man, if you're going to actually use your F-40 and you don't want to crash as, you know, two very recently have, maybe this is what you have to do. Wait until the tires are warm, drive it responsibly. There are better ways to do it. However, the point is that you are validating the decisions I made with my career, G'd say. You are welcome. Yeah. I am welcome. Okay. Next news story, and this is a, this is a tough one. Folks, I'm sorry. People are going to turn off the pot right now because they're so distraught. They're angry. They're going to go and go. call BMW. We're BMW, Ken, this is a BMW news, right? It's a big one.

I'm hanging on. Gesture control is gone. Now, for those of you who don't know what gesture control is, which is everyone who doesn't have a BMW and most people who do. Gesture control was this thing where you could like make hand motions and it would correspond to actual engagement with the radio mostly, the infotainment system. Now, I rented an X-7 two, three months ago. I'm driving along, and I remember it's got gesture control.

I want to change the song? Did it work? Every time. And it's all I did. It's all I did. Want the volume to go up? No way. I did not use gesture control.

Now, my front passenger was perplexed. Yeah. Like we're driving along and I'm like, and normally when a BMW driver does that, it's telling the person in front of them to move over, get out of the left lane. It was odd. However, it works beautifully.

And you know what it did? It saved me from the indignity of having to press a button. Like a steering wheel. Like a plebeian. Right. I was able to instead do this. Yeah. So anyway, it's gone.

And do you have any, did they give a reason why? Yeah, it's obviously stupid. Now, they're also getting, that was their primary reason. Yep. When interviewed, BMW's head of PR said, yes, this was obviously stupid and we should have gotten away with it years ago. Now, they're also getting rid of, this is a big one, the I drive controller. What? The knob is going?

Sorry. Current cars have both gesture control and the knob. And they're on a touchscreen, and you can work it on the steering. Now. When I was a child, a mere boy, 2002, the E-65 comes out. This is Kenan's dream car. The seven-series. It is not, especially the 7-45.

The 7-45, L-I. The 7-series. And they launched I-Drive, which was actually terrible. Like, it's actually kind of funny because people complained about how bad it was then, and you get in the car in retrospect, and you're like, oh, they just weren't ready for technology. No, it was bad. Like, BMW hadn't developed it well. Like, it had been developed poorly.

They fixed it quickly. They fixed it and they fixed it and they refined it And they got to the point where the IX has a crystal eye drive knob And now it's all gone It's all gone Can I talk about that? After 20 years BMW says you know what? You people were right all along

I have something that I'm a little bit worried about Yeah So the IX just got a refresh It's why I lost a knob and there's a new grill Oh you may recall when the IX came out The big news of the grill was self-healing Self-healing I have not found a single piece of PR

That says it's the new grill The new grill might not be self-healing. Oh, that's a shame. If it's not self-healing, do you want an I-X? Do you want an I-X? Okay, now, for those of you who don't know, what Felipe was talking about is, when the BMW I-X first came out, it had its giant front grill. They advertised that if you got a rock chip, it would, in heat, self-heal. Correct.

This was obviously the stupidest thing ever to exist aside from gesture control in the first place. But it was a really big grill, and you need to do something. You need to do something. It had to have some trick. Yeah. And the trick was that it was self-healing. And that's maybe gone. We don't know.

It's a shame that I don't, I couldn't find out. You agree that every time you see an I X, you think to yourself, self-healing grow? I do. Every time. I do. I see when I go. Pretty good lease deal. Pretty good lease deal.

It's a cool car. The refresh one, don't worry. Still has a giant grill. Still giant grill, but no longer self-healing. Maybe. I don't know. Why aren't they talking about this? They need to talk about it.

They got to talk about it. BMW is ruining everything we hold deer. You can no longer do this. And now the grill doesn't self-heal in heat like a gecko. that loses an arm again this is what what has happened i want to be clear maybe that's a good thing their cars are beautiful oh that's not right either okay move on to the next news story please ah yes so to talk about bentley so bentley has announced that they're making the world i have to get read this to get right the world's first luxury urban SUV not just the luxury SUV not an urbanist

just not familiar with the lexx which is the urban explorer i'm going to be completely honest with you no they are absolutely absolutely Absolutely not familiar with it. But it was recently spotted. Neither is the buying public. It was recently spotted driving around and it's dressed up as a Porsche Cayenne. Is it?

With some Ionic five tails. Well, the thing that give this away that it's a Bentley is that definitely not how it looks, but it had British tags on it front and the rear. And this platform obviously is shared between Volkswagen and Bentley as they own Bentley. Yes. Well, it's a Cayenne looking thing. No, it's not a Cayenne, but it's clearly intended to look like a Cayenne. Which may be true in production, honestly, because this looks relatively far along.

In fact, that mirror, well, that's a Bentleyish mirror, too. It's kind of Porsche-ish. Bentley has said also, this isn't replacing the Bentega. It's going to become, like, its own line. So what do we think luxury urbanists, meaning it has no off-road capabilities of any variety? I guess, which, you know, so many people took the Bentega off-road. Are you kidding? Philippa-I and I went fox hunting.

We went fox hunting at least three hunts a year. You shot a fox? No, no, the foxes help us hunt, I think. No, no, you use hounds to hunt the fox. You're killing the fox. We need to know about this if we're going to go again. We just went out of that. It was a successful hunt boys.

We just went out in a bit taken because we wanted to look the part. Or you wanted to play the bugle or whatever. So this is fully electric. Yes, I believe that is the thing. This is fully electric. Because I don't see a tailie. I don't see tailpipes and I think that is the idea here. I see a lot of rear end treatment that I'm not, I'm not that into, but I don't see a tail light.

Of course, Bentley has been slow to EVs. They've been, and I think the luxury manufacturers, Rolls Voice, who had admittedly makes an EV, I've been hesitant because it does inconvenience to people who own them. You have to plug it in, and that is an inconvenience to have to wait. Rich people don't wait. Yes, but yes, but they were a new car and they took a long time to do it because they really wanted the technology

to be okay, and I think Bentley's done the same thing, but it's clear. It does make sense for these brands to make EVs though because it's quiet. Silent. It's the best thing that EV manufactured. You know another way, you know, this is a Bentley, I bet you those stupid square taillights cover up the big oval that Bentley is trying to sell. But they do, but either way. So Urban S. So they're going to

make this into a like a urban luxury electric SUV. Not a ventiga but like a very high end you drive it around town. That's how everybody uses their ventegas in London anyway. Yeah, honestly. I don't think it's a bad thing. I think EV like I was saying makes sense for these electric manufacturers

because of the silence, instant performance. It's not like it's taking away some sports car that we're missing out on. I am still curious about execution. We'll see how it checks down. I am too. I'll bet you you really like it when it comes out. I have a hunch. I do like a lot of these things. Yeah, I suspect that is the case.

Okay, give us our next one. Oh, there is a new Miata. 35th anniversary. 35th anniversary. The 30th was the orange one. The 30th of the orange one which had Brembo and BBSW wheels

and something else. The 35th is this dark red situation. Yep. And that is it. No, it's got a couple upgrades. I was reading it's got to get. It's manual only, it's soft hop only. You can't get an RF. And it's got a couple of nice.

It's a regular Miata grand touring in a different color. But with one additional thing you notice um it comes with a non-track day i read that in car and driver it does come up with an experience that they haven't announced what it is but it's not a track day but it comes with a color matched key oh and leather pouch so take that the key also this leather pouch is color this color this color is distinctive this was on cx90 correct it wasn't attractive on that car it is a track i like the color the only my wife's nails

are often this color soul red soul red is the color of god yeah soul red was given to us by God through Mazda for some reason. God chose Mazda. It really was. Yeah. And he said, I will give you this color. And then Mazda dispelled it upon the followers. Populous. Yes. And now that we have this instead. It is called Artisan Red for the record. This is a distinctive wheel, don't you think? I actually don't think it is. So the ND, they're still going with the ND. Mazda's always done these special edition things. Yeah, but we're still going with the ND. So I've 10 years. I spent a little bit a time on the Miata forum. And people are a little bit disappointed

that this doesn't have anything special. Because the 30th anniversary was cool. It was that orange. Yeah. Had the wheels, had the Rambo brakes. Had Olens, his memory serves. So it had some suspension upgrades. This is a grand touring in a different color. Yeah, but it's manual only, it's got a tant. Listen, back in my day, Kenan in my day,

back in the NANB. The MAUSEA special edition every year and it was always like a color in a little mica edition. Yeah. That was it. It's very somewhat of color of that. People have gotten too used to good things. We're going to dial it back. There is a great website that details every special edition.

We've used it a lot for cars and we've used it a lot for cars and writing stuff and I've referenced it all the time. When you go through it is like that sometimes it's like wheels. Some of them are special in a very special way, let's just say. Yes. And those are the ones people brag about having. I got the NB or whatever and it's like, oh, well. Is it a Mastro speed? Well.

Right. To us it's like N-A and B and B and B M-B and C and D. And we're out. I will say the Maza releases a new color or two every year for the MX5. And the last two years have been gray colors for their new color for the year. So it's nice that at least this is like a vibrant. But you would get solar color. No, I'd get this.

You wouldn't get an orange one off the site, a used orange one? No, I would. Yeah. Also, they're only making 300, something of these? 300 cars in the U.S. You know what it looks like that old Merlot edition. That's what I was thinking. That's exactly what it looks like.

Okay, give us our last news story, which is the most important of all. Yep. Oh, look at that beautiful generic SUV. This is a QX50. There's also QX-55, which is a coup version of this. Yeah, they're both dead. They're dead. They're gone, folks. This is it. This is the end for the QX-C-C-C-75. A lot of people out there saying, they made those still?

They made those at all? Yep. No, you know who's mad about this enterprise? Because they could upsell you, be like, oh, you get a luxury SUV, sir, and then you show up and they give you an infinity and you're like, wait a minute. This is the X-5 or equivalent? This is equivalent. Right. This is equivalent.

I want to be clear. 3 replacement. Now, the QS-60 is also bad. Infinity says they're going to refresh or redesign the QX-60 and come out with a coup version called the QX-65. At least they're consistent. I would like at this moment, January, whatever date this airs. What is it air Friday? 31st. To start an infinity death watch. Oh. We're doing it. Our first death watch. You got to say, you got to admit, this is coming to an end. If you as a manufacturer are getting rid of your compact luxury It's not looking good. It's not a good situation.

It's not like this is 80%. The Tesla Model Y, the best selling car in the world. Infinity has their competitor. We were going to actually exit the segment. You know, we just decided. Why don't they have an Infinity area? Infinity doesn't have anything. My opinion, in my opinion, may be wrong,

but in my opinion, they're down to the QX 16 and the QX80. That's it. This is it. It's a death watch. They still sell the Q50, but the Q50, the Q50 and the QX-50 are the only other two of you. Wait, they sell the Q50? according their website, they sell the Q-50.

They're just used versions of the existing ones. The X-3, BMW's best-selling car. Dude, the Q-5, Audi's best-selling car, probably. How do you get rid of your small? BMW has nine SUVs, 10. Some number that's insane. They have two products. Infinity is over.

You're hearing you here first. And if they actually do this Honda merger, it's over. It's over, over. There's no way accurate and Infinity both survive, especially when if you really look at the numbers, probably neither of them should survive. Also, infinity's got to be a U.S. only brand. Well, they tried, remember they tried in Europe, and it was the worst failure in the entire history of failures.

It was worse than Hindenberg. Wow. That caught fire. I want to be clear, because Hindenberg Apologists do exist. It didn't blow up. Right. It burned. It burned, and then cascaded to the ground killing people.

Killing people. And the Infinity launch in Europe was similarly bad, especially because it also included them trying to bind to Formula One. Do you remember this? Oh, absolutely. They sponsored cars. They didn't actually. they were actually involved with the cars. They didn't have a team. I thought there was an Infinity Red Bull team.

They sponsored Red Bull. They did. No, they were not involved with the engineering of the car. But wasn't the team called Infinity Red Bull? They, like, do you think Petronus is there? Renschen on Mercedes-Cars cars? It's the same thing. It was a sponsor.

But nonetheless, I mean, it was the name of the team. Yes, they gave a lot of money. That couldn't have been cheap. No, I'm sure it wasn't. And they launched all these cars in Europe, and it lasted like two years. And Europeans were like, yeah, actually, we're good. These are trash. And you've got to admit.

Infinity cannot last. This has to be coming from it. There was a new QX80. You reviewed it. Yeah, it was good. Unfortunately, their motto also exists. There's a Nissan version. The QX60 is a great.

It was. When the QX60 came out in 2012, when I was in middle school, it was a great car. I love how the QX60. By the way, at that time, it was called the JX35. Yeah, I love how the QSUFSI.

Because they redesigned it based on the Pathfinder a couple years ago. Yeah. But I like how to care. looks. It looks great. Okay. It's time to move on to the Talk Cars segment. Talk Cars. Talk Cars. This segment is sponsored by

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that I am not a Porsche guy. Please try to justify this. Okay. Worked for Porsche. Yeah. Okay. You know what? Worked for Porsche.

I did work for Porsche years ago. That's the number one thing people used to say that I'm a Porsche guy. Let me tell you something. If you worked there, if you spent any time working there, I'm going to try to be diplomatic here. That wouldn't make you more of a Porsche guy. Let's just put it that way. Let's just make it really clear here.

My time at Porsche when I went in very excited and I left, less excited. It certainly didn't make me thrilled to be in the Porsche sphere if you know what I'm saying. Good luck to all my friends who are still there. Going great, I bet.

Okay, so, wait anyway, I did work there, and believe it or not, that experience did not take it out of me completely. But most people now say, because I have the career GT, you know, that's only the second portion I've ever had. And I went and looked at all the cars of the ones that you had.

Well, I had some company cars I crashed most of them I had some company cars by crash most of them. I went and looked and you know what I am actually secretly that no one accuses me of but they should? It's a Mercedes Benz guy. I've had only two Porsche.

I've had seven Mercedes Benz. I have two Mercedes Benz right now. What's your other portion? I've always accused you. I had a 9 and 6 turbo years ago for like six months with bumperets. I've always accused you of being a Mercedes guy because you've owned one BMW

and E3673 sedan, which got totaled or something. Not where you were driving. but later on. Later. But you've owned a ton of Mercedes-Benz. I've had seven Mercedes-Benz. I've had five or something E-Class.

You currently own two Mercatid-Benz products. And for some reason, people are like, oh, he's a Porsche guy. I'm not a Porsche guy on so many levels. I don't care about the options. I don't know any of the colors. People like, oh, is that Miami Blue? I don't want to have any clue at all what the colors are. You don't wear a watch.

I'm not into the watch thing. I'm not into the stitching thing. I don't give up. And I hate the 356. And I think that that is the number one. thing that is clearly You agree though that you're slowly becoming a Porsche guy As Porsche becomes the enthusiast

I'm not interested in more Porsches though You want a 9-9-9-3 Well okay but I also want a super turbo My Toyota guy and the answer is yes Because I've had four Toyotas Four how many were land cruisers A two land cruisers a Sequoia and a first-gen Prius Did you have a first-gen Prius?

You had a first-gen Prius? You had a first-gen Prius? You had a second-gen Prius for the record That is a second-gen cruiserers Japan only. Not too many people know that. I've had three Nissan. I've had more Nissan than Porsche. You want to call me a Nissan guy? Fine. I'll wear it. Dude, infinity. Oh, I hope you survive. I hope you make it. You had a cube.

I had a Skyline GTR and I had what else? Oh, the S-cargo. Boom! The S-cargo counts less than your Porsche corporate cars. I drove the S-cargo more than you drove the S-cargo. Oh my God, I loved the S-car. Are you kidding? It was a snail. It was a snail. It was a snail and a pun. We used to drive. It was a snail and a pun. We used to drive there around in Philly.

People would freak out. It was like driving the Kuntosh. Swear to God. I mean, yeah, that's one thing that Philadelphia's would actually be happy to see. They wouldn't want to destroy. That's true. Anyway, so I'm not a Porsche guy.

Okay, I want to set the record on this. All right, you've set the record. Do you agree? You're not a Porsche guy. You're a Mercedes guy. I don't want to, no, no, I'm an objective observer of the automotive industry. And I think if you're an objective observer of the automotive industry,

you end up buying a bunch of Mercedes. Because they make really nice parts. Are you familiar with the C-300? Yeah, the C-3-100. Yeah, the C-300, they had a stick. No, no, a fair one. Well, you can shift gears. Maybe people feel that way because you do have the courage you,

but you also recommend Porsches a ton. Because, honestly, they're generally speaking. They're like, the reason that Porsches are so well recommended by me and so many car reviewers is they do a lot of stuff well. Even though I've only had two Porsches and I'm not really interested in more and I don't really like the community, they are the best examples of cars that give daily driving enjoyment. and have like fun.

Ferraris go way too far on the fun scale. You know, a lot, like my AMG Mercedes go too far on the daily driving enjoyment. They're not really that enjoyable to toss around. Porsche uniquely does that well. And you don't have to be a Porsche guy to understand that. You just have to be a car enthusiast, which is why most car enthusiasts end up getting Porsches.

But I'm more of a Nissan guy. By the way, I've had four Land Rovers. And two Fords. I've had the same number of Ford's. I had an explorer. sport. Really? 01.

Oh one, buddy. That was the third Gen Explorer sport that didn't have a four-door version. Except the truck. So the third-gen-exporas sport, there was the two-door and the truck, but the four-door got a different body. Sport track. We're going deep into this, the sport track. Okay.

Deep into that. I will say, the point is bottom. And I will also know, not the entire portrait. People that buy McCons don't know about the DEA decision. Yeah. So you can be part of that community. I will say anyone who knows me, I wouldn't think, would say I'm. a Porsche person, especially because of some of the way that I talk about some of those folks

when the cameras are off. I fit in that category of Porsche a person more than pedantic and I like really find details. You need to get a portion of them. And on that subject, we have to have a call back to an incident we had last week on the show. Yes. Now, last week somebody asked a question, and they asked that for me, they asked three questions. The one to me was, would I for no cost take a 993 Turbo S? It doesn't cost me a dime.

But I can never let me finish. Stop speaking. But I can never drive in, experience, or own another E3, 9, and 5 again for the rest of my life. And my knee-jerk reaction was one I needed to think about. And so I said no. And so I thought about it a lot. I spent hours thinking about this this week. Damn.

And there are some things I need to, I have to apologize to 993 community for stars. One is that unlike, like I have actually driven in 9-9-3. N3 TurboS. They're very rare, very expensive, very few people have driven them. You've driven a TurboS? Only, I've never driven the holy one, only the... I've driven God. I've driven God. It's amazing. It does 060 and 3.7

seconds, 6B manor transmission. Same as a crudgeon. Yeah. It's fast. The beauty of that car is that it true, the turbo is excellent, but the turbo S combines true modern day performance with analog feel. You know, the door closed with that and all the gauges are beautiful and it smells like an old car, but it's full fast. It's the fenders.

It's the only difference. It's worth triple because it has holes in the fence. It's absolutely not true, but I did a whole video on it. You can go and watch it. I talk about all the differences. But it's one of the greats. But when I was filming it, there was a guy there who was like the curator of the car. And anytime I would like get a fingerprint on it, he would come over and you spray details. He just loved the car.

For him, it ignited like a passion and an excitement in him because he loved the car, which is great. I really liked the TurboS. I don't love it. And when you're asking me to do is to give up a car, I really really, love for a variety of reasons. It fits in my life. I am sentimental about it. It's a wonderful car to drive and you're asking me

to give up something I burn for a car that I don't. Now there are cars that I would give up the M5 experience for. Acura. Maclaren F1. Ferrari 550 Yeah, like yeah, McLaren F1 I do it for a 550? You do it for 550? You would forever

give up an E39M5 forever. Never be able to touch one again. Not even touch, don't even lick. For a Ferrari 550 Yeah, I think I would because I really love the 550. The point... We're talking barquetta or we talk in regular? I can have other cars, right?

Yeah, you can have a cure of that stuff. Yeah, Barquetta. I chop those, you know, those squirrel hoops right off. This is fascinating. But the thing with it is... I take it 9-3-2-Brus overall 550. The thing about it is that, like, although I'm not married to the... You're a Porsche guy, that's right.

Although I'm not married to the idea of having the M-5 forever, it has done so much for me and how I feel. My grandfather recently died at the beginning of the year, and it made me really think a lot about how I feel and relate to things in the subject of time, because time is really finite. And for me, I want to experience that with the people that I like and the objects that I like. And the M5, for me, is one of those objects.

Anytime I'm in the car when I was dealing with grief or feeling bad, I close that door, and I go and I feel those ITs sucking in air, and it, to me, just takes me to another place. Don't you think, and playing devil's advocate here, because honestly, at this point, I, you know, you can, it doesn't, I, this doesn't affect me, but I'm playing devil's advocate. Don't you think, don't you think that you could have that same, like at some point, well, you grow out of, like, Felipe, okay, Felipe is blankie, right? We're not supposed to talk about it on the air, but we're going to today. Belippo has a blank, it's always had his blankie, brings it to the set, you know, it's sitting under the table right now.

It's blue for those who are wondering. Don't want you, right, it's blue, blue. I mean, it was blue and that's faded. But anyway, don't you think at some point you grow out of the thing and move on to the other, the next thing? This is another point that you bring up. So I'm very fortunate. I've driven hundreds of really cool cars. I have a list for those who don't know that on my phone of every single car I've ever driven in my entire life.

The date I drove it, whose it was, what year it was, what trim it was, or even normal cars. And I've driven everything from a Chevy Malibu Max right up to like a, to, like, to, like, a, S.A. A Ferrari to Corp. From cool to cool, that's right. but I have seldom gotten out of any other car and thought, I was just happy to get back to my point is like that happened over time with your M5. Don't you think it could happen? That's not true.

It happened like the second I rode in my friend Ryan's before he could even drive. He bought his parents bought him this car. I was in love with the car immediately. There's some childhood stuff here. Don't you think that if you had a CT5B black wing, you would eventually develop that same feeling? I love that you bring up that question. So I had driven a CT5B black wing.

and immediately drove my M5 right after. Back-to-back comparison. There are things I really love about the Blackwing is a badass car. It's so cool. You experience actual ranging I did in a gasoline car, which is wild. But there are things that, like,

I got back in the M-5, what I liked about more is it's the right power figure. The 5B Black Wing is a ton of power. A CT5V, not Blackwood. There's a lot of other parts where I feel like you could develop a similar report with. But I don't have to.

It's got a childhood love. It's like when you, when you first played catch with your dad. You know what I'm talking about. Little never happened in my life. Well, admittedly, like the reason that car,

they didn't do that in Italy. Yeah. Throw a meatball out of him. But the thing, the thing with it is, it's like, and I have, although I don't like a lot of normal cars,

admittedly, I specialize with the European exotic cars. That's what I love. I, if somebody loved their Toyota Echo as much as I love my E339 and 5, I absolutely respect. back to the holiday. I think that's phenomenal. But the thing with it is, is like, that's

what's important about these cars. They're not rational. So why is it that a 550 would be enough to send you away? Because when I drove that car, we had that gray one in the office. I drove it a ton because I had to take it up for service and brought it back and stuff. And it's just like, it is just, it is the M5, but it says

Ferrari on it. So there's a way to get you out of the M5. With a certain car and a certain thing, it's just not the 993 twin. Right. And of course, In a world where I'm being given one for free, it's, it's, you know, it's a world that doesn't exist, unless someone out there wants to give me a 550 for free for this for some reason, which is fascinating with this. So there are, he's got the childhood love and the passion and the love and the time is finite,

unless you're showing up at his door with the keys to a 550. He's like, oh, I'm out. What about like a 575 sticks walked? So again, the point is like, well, don't forget, I loved Ferrari long before the M5. I've been a die-harded Ferrari fan of my entire life, so, or my entire conscious life. And so, again, it's all a hypothetical. I plan to have an M5 and a 550. But hypothetically, what about a 575 sticks one?

I would buy a 5756 swan. Same question, but 575 sticks one. OE stick. OE stick, yes. Owee stick definitely, with the handling package. But sticks, oh, but no handling package, no buy by M5. You got to have FHP. We're getting real granular here.

My uncle had the TTC healing package. Are there any acurus? Okay. That's my thought for us. I know it's an insane statement to say, but again, love is not rational, and it's not rational for these cars. And although I'm not saying that the M5

is a better car than the 9 and 3 turbo-vus, although it's better at certain things than the turbo-buses. The turbo-buses is better at a lot of things than the M-5 is. For my personal preference, because you're removing cost from the whole thing here, or price is what the question removes. It's how you feel emotionally. And for me, like, I just emotionally am more attached to my M-5

than it would be a turbo-s. For the record, the question would have allowed you to sell that 99-3-3-tribus and buy five, five. He only focuses on money. He only focuses on money. No, I take my point here. I think so, too. But I generally...

That's not the spirit of the thing. I generally agree with... I generally understand your point, although I vastly disagree with it. Okay. I appreciate that though. Again, I'm really sentimental and emotional about cars, specifically. You're not emotionally attached to your cars like I am.

I think you, the courage of you was a car you had to own, and it means a lot to you have achieved. But when you told me you're buying it, you said, there shouldn't be celebrated. It's just a rich guy buying a car. It is a rich guy buying something. I agree with that. But I saw it.

It's like, you accomplished each other a dream. You should be proud of that. Yeah, I know. But at some point, it's just obnoxious. Look at my girlfriend's car. Okay. Which is why we haven't made a video about it since. No, I made a couple.

Oh, I got to make a recall video. We got to talk about what happened. Yeah, you do. The car was recalled. Dang it. Okay. Final talk cars thing here, Felipe. Yeah.

We are in the middle of a fun integration with our friend of Queen Base. So we are selling a 1986 Toyota pickup, which I'm looking at right now. It's so cool. that we sourced out in the bay. It's a California car from New with one family from New until, you know, we bought it. It's very, very cool. It's also very exciting because we partnered with Coinbase

to sell it for USDC, which is a crypto-stable coin that's pegged one-to-once the USR. It's also a really legitimately great way to pay for a car because it's instant. You don't have to worry about it when the bank is open. You can do it really safely and seamlessly. So 2 a.m. 2M. Whenever you want.

Underware. Sure. Wow. You certainly have done it to go to the bank, which is nice. And you can't do that in your underwear, just like generally. I can't go to the bank of my pajamas with lapels on. In your case, it is. The show up pajamas, it doesn't matter.

Yes, that's a whole thing. Doesn't matter. But I would encourage everybody to kind of go check out my video on the Carthabit channel, which comes out today, Doug's review of the pickup or cardambitbiz.com slash us to learn a little bit more because it is legitimately quite cool. So I want to get clear on this. Yeah. You can buy the truck.

You have to buy the truck using this stable coin. Correct. So this specific truck we're selling, the payment needs to be in USDC. But we're then going to open it up in the next month or so to all sellers and buyers. So people can be selling buy in USC vehicles on the site. And if you use Cars and Bid Safe Pay, which is our payment platform through our friends of KeySavvy, you can already pay in USDC. It's very exciting. Interesting.

It's also, generally I am like the operations business nerd here at the Cars and Bids. That's your title. It is, yeah. And it's very exciting because it's a legitimately a good option for people. and it's kind of fun to be like the forefront of this. I'm not the forefront, but it's cutting edge. We're at the cutting edge.

We're at the cutting edge. We're at the bleeding edge. And we've done it with a 40-year-old pickup truck that is carbureted. Take that. It is carbureated. It's wonderful. You drove that truck.

Yeah, it was so wonderful. I drove it around and all I was thinking to myself the whole time was when this truck was made 40 years ago and it doesn't have a computer in it, they weren't thinking that someday would be bought using a stable coin. Here we are. USDC. It wasn't on their minds.

It's a fascinating dichotomy. It is. It's kind of. of a new and old situation. Okay, next up we're going to talk about it's time for the market report where we talk about the car market. Now, the market report is sponsored by the Cars and Bids app. Yep.

You can download it somewhere and then use it somehow. On the Apple app, so you can use it on your iPhone. Can you use it on iPad? You can. It's not optimized for iPad, but you can use it. Can I download it on my computer and use it? No. Oh, well, that's some BS.

You can go to clothebiz.com. The browser of your... I think the Android people are more upset than you can. you know. Yeah, why can't I use it on my Kiosera 2830J? Okay. I have no idea what any of that is. Cio Sierra is a brand that makes fun. They make phones? I guessed. I assumed it was microwaves. How would I know about Kiosera? I have no idea how I can. You have some friend with a green bubble who shows up in your text messages. They don't have a Kiosera. You know, he was that way for a long time. Anyway, I'm not surprised. Let's talk market report. There's a lot of market related things to cover.

And I want to start with my Rolls-Royce question. Oh, okay. When I was a child, a wee lad, Rolls-Royce and Bentley. English car he's learning. Rolls-Royce and Bentley were the same, okay? The cars they made were basically indistinguishable. Bentley was the driver's version, and Rolls-Royce was the chauffeur version, but, like, they were the same, I think. Like, they may have been some suspension differences, but that may have also just been marketing. Now they're different.

And one of them is owned by Volkswagen, and the other one is inexplicably owned by BMW. And Rolls-Royces don't lose value, and Bentley's lose value to unbelievably. level. Don't lose value is a very strong. Okay, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you an example. I'm going to give you an example. The Phantom. Sure. I'm familiar. A 2000 and, yeah, what's the lowest we've sold a Phantom for? What do Phantoms go for? All right. The cheapest, oldest phantoms, right? Still selling for 65. This is a 150 car new, right? No, it was 300. It was 300. It was 300. 300. Okay. But it's still, it's still worth 20% of its original value. Sure. A continental GT from over the same year was a 180 car new. It is now worth zero dollars.

16. Because we sell nice ones. I want to be clear about this. I want to be really clear about this. You can go on Craigslist and find a ratty continental GT for two. That's three times the price for fundamentally a competitive. It's not just the Phantom versus Continental

too. Like compare Arnage, which was the Phantom equivalent. Like it was the flagship full size and the Mulsan. The Arnage and the Mulsan have gone, but Phantom and Ghost. Ghost is retaining its diet. I went on an auto trader yesterday. Audotrater.com. I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about it. And I want on a trainer's state to look for ghosts.

You know what cheap used ghost costs? They have 90,000 miles, they're 15 years old, and they're $84,000. Why is that? Why is that? You know the real reason? Rollsroes does look cool. You get my point. You get my point.

It's weird. I think it's because when Rolls-Royce owned Bentley, they specifically went out of their way to make sure Bentley's were less good. And Rolls-Royce had a better car. and that brand prestige has carried them forever. Now they don't own Bentley, but Bentley's are still less good. Not by trying or anything. It's just the way it works.

That W-12 was one of the finest moments. It is. And so what is the deal with that? You could drive around in a Phantom, or you could drive around in a W-12, the greatest power train of all time, and you can purchase it for the cost of a used road sign on eBay. Wow. What road sign goes for that?

You wouldn't know. Any dude. Railroad crossing. or 05 continental GT. I do think there's something to the the styling of them. Rolls-Royce went for such like an in-your-face styling. Like look at the front of the panel. You think it's the way it looks?

I think that the presence that it has does impact the current value. Okay, let me ask you this then. And I'm not trying to stir any pots. It's also true of the Colin and Vintagia. I'm not trying to stir any pots, but let me ask you this. If it's about styling and presence, why has the Nissan Marano cross cabriolet depreciated? That car has excessive. presence and styling.

Are you familiar with Marano, Cross Cabellate? Compared to regular Marano, it's four times the price. It's four times price. It's still nine grand. I am familiar with the pricing. I'm also familiar with the fact that the pricing determines greatly on whether the top is working, and it isn't.

I also want to make it plain. If you search God's chariot on Carson, but it's not an E3 and 5 that comes up. It is the cross-caverill-l. One other note on Bentley, Roll Choice. This is weird. The weirdest part about it is Ghost. Because Ghost and Cottonel and GT are roughly equivalent. And ghosts, I'm telling you, a 10 ghost is an 85.

is an 85 car at the cheapest. And a 10 continental continental flying spur is like a 40 car. What, it's also like in more recent years, I feel like Rolls Royce have stayed further a market than Bentley has. Bentley's kind of come down a little bit.

There's more of them. That could be the answer right there. What's the new colon? How much is the new coli? 400. What's the new Bentega? Three. 285.

Right. So now going forward, I think that that kind of brings the overall point out. But Collies are holding their value like cray. Right. And Bentega's are not. They're not as bad as other men. They're in a different league now.

That's a 50% price difference. I think the status of, yeah. I think there's a part of it is the original price tag. But ghosts have held their value better even despite that. Like if you look, ghosts are still 30% of their original MSRP, the cheapest ones. Yeah. Whereas Bentley's are struggling to get to 1520. Yeah.

I agree. I think I was hoping I could get a cheap ghost by now. I deserve a ghost. Why do you not want a cheap flying through? Oh, interesting. Oh, interesting. You're right. I prefer a ghost.

The market would prefer a ghost. Is it because? The market is the market. It's reliably factoring into it a little bit. I mean, Bentley's aren't from the most reliable cars, but... Maybe. I mean, I presume that the fears about Bentley reliability are have the same... People in the used market have the same fears about reliability.

I will say this. As just a single data point, one time I rented a used Cotonel GT in Atlanta. I primarily rent two cars, Cayenne base models and Cottonel GTs when I'm on Turro. I'm ready to use Cottnell GT in Atlanta because I love the continental GT drive it every time I can. And I got in and the fellow said to me, he said, listen, he said there's some warning lights and I said, okay.

And so I drove the car and 10 minutes into the drive, a warning light comes on and it says, warning you have no tire pressure in any tire, but it doesn't just say that. It goes, for like a minute. And that happened every 30 minutes. Oh. And so, you know, maybe there's some issues in Bentley.

Disturb the serenity of your Bentley issue, Walthill. You know, the other thing I think is that, coming back to looks, Rolls Royces, like that, they don't, like this, this is a Phantom series seven, right? It looks pretty much the same as the eight. Like, it's hard. They were such tiny incremental changes from 04 to the present day. Counterpoint, the continental GT.

Well, yes, but this is more of a statement. Or the new generation change. New Q5 looks like the 09 Q5, but 09 Q5's cost two. But there's an entire generation of people, well, maybe it does apply to Bentley. But there's an entire generation of people that's what they picture in their mind. That's it. And it ends up in more, it just has more of a pop culture reference point, I think. That's true.

I think it's three things now that we've discussed it. Desireability of styling and like the appearance of the car, the name brand. You said, why don't you like it? You want a Bentley wine. And probably production numbers plays a world too. The cars are simply less common. And a lot of these swam, let's be honest. They do swim.

They swim. They swim. Yeah. Backstrow. I don't know. Meaning that they get exported to other countries. They get exported other countries where, where a bad carfax, maybe, you know, it's a good carfax. All of a sudden, you know.

Carfax. It goes through countries. By the way, you ever try to use Carfax in Europe? You can't. Yep. That's the real key. You export these things to Hungary and it's like, oh, let me check the Carfax. Oh, I can't.

Yep. You can use a VPN to find out how many times it's been rolled over. You've driven how many phantoms you've driven? Lots, right? A few. I drove this one, this series 8, and I've driven the early one, and... What a car.

God damn, it's so good. It's just like... No, no, Phantom's not the 7th series. It's just like... There's nothing like it. Like, the serenity you experience in a car that large. And I have to say, I was... Spector, too.

I was sitting there back to the pop culture thing. Someone walked across the street, like, and got out their camera front and was, like, taking pictures of the car. They were that, like... I guess they're... They're that excited about, like... You know what?

I just... Roles is cool. Rolls is cool. And they're like a nice pair of shoes. like people don't understand why it was so expensive when you travel on it's like oh i i do agree with that i've always if people are like is it really worth three times what an s class is worth and i want to be like the guy who owns this car has had five s classes and that those little differences are worth a lot to him the person like that it i totally agree uh let's talk v12 Ferrari kennan

pull it up pull it up pull it up which one was it i'm sorry the how many v12 Ferraris we got just type in Ferrari the one that's live look at that ass Super America. So, yes, we currently have on the site, I can't believe we have one, but we have a greasio Silverstone, 575 Super America. Now, you and I agree that this is one of the most underrated special Ferraris that exist. The 550 barquetta sells for a ton of money. There are a lot of cars that sell for a lot.

These aren't as beloved, and I don't really get one. They're total bars. Most of them were F-1s, although the car was off over to a six-speed manor from the factory. Nicholas Cage had one. Oh, there's only like 10. But, yeah, I think they're, I think it's 17, but yeah, they're, they're, They're crazy rare, but these cars... This one is nice.

Man, the interior looks... How many miles are on this guy? 5,300. It looks like zero. Go to the seats. My God. Look at that. Philippe would never be able to keep a car like this.

You gave Felipe a car in an afternoon, it would look worse than this. Even if he didn't drive it. That's so true. Just by being his. But these cars are so cool. For those of you who are unfamiliar, it replaced the 550 barcetta. But unlike the 550 barcetta, it kind of sort of had a roof. and the roof had these electric motors

that would roll it forward. It lays on the trunk lid and you roll it forward and then it covers the car. And then it was tintable. It had an electromagnetic control, I think, in it, but you turn the switch and it would adjust how dark light

it was to keep the sun on. Wow. In 2005. Yeah, it was a big deal on 05. It was pre-venza. Because Venza's got it now. But here's how the roof would work. I'm going to demonstrate it.

Even if you're just listening to audio, That's it. You get what he's talking about. Cool as hell. This car is, in my opinion, super undervalued and deserves more love in the Ferrari community. I love these cars. Look at that V-Den. When I see a 575, I'm like, holy crap.

When I see one of these, I call Kenan. I'm like, Kenan, get up here. Yeah, there was a guy who drove around one in Newport, like, regularly, and we would see it fairly commonly. One time I was shooting at the Aston Dealer, and he pulled up to Javier's right next to the Ashton dealer, and the whole Ashton dealer, every salesperson and staff member walked outside to check out the Super America. It's cool as hell.

It's so cool. I haven't seen one in ages. Last one I saw was like in Napa just driving around, which was so cool. That's where you see. It's like a connoisseurs car. They made 559 of them, right? Yes. And Felipe will never encounter one.

No. You know how many barquettas they made? No. 448 and they're all ruthless. Big hoops. Big hoops. We saw it photo. We agree, though, that 448 was the last car that the production number was correct.

And so this car, we don't know how many they made. No, I think this one was correct too because that was only how many they could sell. But they didn't individually numbered these. No, they didn't. The barquetta was the last individually number. And the SA of Parenthood, the 599 essay of Parato, which replaced this car, they built 75 of allegedly. Okay. Next up, it is time for questions, questions, questions.

Remember, you two can ask us questions, not you two, although if Bono had a question, force that answer. You could 100% ask the question. Yeah, he had a quadruple 45, like Nick. Wow. Anyway. Or Smash Mouth. They can ask one of those. No.

They love, they like, they're fans of you and they can ask us questions. Oh, yeah, that's true. That's true. Okay. Anyway, you can ask questions. Go to cars and bits.com. Look on community at the top, and then this thing comes up, and you ask your question, and we'll answer it. We speak to you.

We speak to the you. Anyway, okay, go to the questions, and the first question, pop back to the slide really quick. The first question is, which country has the best president? This is from Montana-plated Rangerover. Which country has the best presidential limo, and in general, which dictator's presidents had the best taste in cars? Kenan, I thought of you when I got this question. I'm in Malta, 2015, 10 years ago.

It looks like a press weird. Well, every car in Malta is a trashy little hatchback. except the president. You can't see it on this image, but if you look there, you can see the presidential seal of the Maltese president. No plates.

We're walking through. We took a tour of the Maltese presidential palace, and we're walking through and parked there in like the main, you know, employee forecourt is the presidential car. An E38. Did they get the V-12?

No. They got the 735 eye on base wheels. And that's the car that brings the Maltese president around, or at least it was 10 years ago. I guess I wouldn't need it, but I'm surprised it's not a protection. It's in, it's Malta. The whole country goes to about at 7.30.

Right. Can you, do you name any of these cars? And I'll give you extra credit if you can name the red one on the far right. That? You know what it is. I think I do. I think I do too. Oh, no.

Philippa this. Well, we know what this is. Can you name this? Oh, Kenan. It's a Gulf? Yeah, that's a Gulf. Yeah. And I can do a couple of these.

The thing about Malta that's important to remember, and you're wondering why there are so many Japanese cars in Europe, because Malta's right-hand drive So many, there's a Yaris. No, there's two Yaris. These are Yaris's. That's a Toyota-based product. That is Citron C-3. That's a D.

No part of what you said is correct. These are Mazda. That's a Mazda. Malta's right-hand drive. And one of the most interesting things about Malta when I was there, every car was deregistered in Japan. It's one of those, it's like New Zealand. It's one of those where they fail the shake-in,

and they have to leave Japan. And so they go to New Zealand and apparently go to Malta. Every car in Malta has. had Japanese writing on the, you know, and had been kicked out of Japan. And in Malta, they're like, bring it. Our prime minister is driving around a 10-year-old baseball 7 series.

We don't care if you're bringing in an old 3-2-3. I will give you credit. That's a 106, which was shared with the two at Igo. The Igo. That is an Igo. And that's a Mazur 3-23. It's almost certainly a Hyundai tube. Timorah, I think so, too.

I think so, too. These are all Japanese cars. Everyone except the Pujo. I thought, well, that's a trend. Oh, the two Pugio. No, that's an Igo. The Citra on the blue one, Citronic. What did they call?

No, that is like the 1-21-1 was a such one. The answer to your question is no. 306. 206. It might be a 206. It's fine. I'll forgive you. Okay. That's my answer, except the real answer, of course, is Brunei. Yeah. Yeah. It's always Brunei. Answer any question.

There have been some dictators that have had some legit cars. Yeah, I mean, I mean, well, the Mercedes, like the 600, the Pullman. The Pullman. I mean, every bad dictator. had one of those. And I think probably of any dictatorship, you can almost guarantee you seeing one of those in the parking lot. Right.

It's kind of a professional issue of BMW, I guess. Right, and I see 38. Yeah, I like him. I see 38. Filippo, you got any presidential? This is not presidential, but the Pope had a Mercedes-ML. That's right.

He had an ML on Mybok wheels. Remember that? Yeah, that's something I consider. What, throw on my box on an ML? No, no, just having a my, an ML or on my box. Presidential Lema. Okay, next question,

and this is a great question. This is a question for me and Felipe, from T. Barrett. If you were given 18 months of Kenan's M5 maintenance cost to buy a car, what fun weekend car would you buy? What is 18 months? It's like 20 grand, right? It was 15 last year.

Well, last year, but add another six months. So, yeah, 22. 22, right? Yeah, that's 20. What fun we pull up the site? What fun weekend card would we buy? Someone we already chose. Oh, you've already got an answer?

Well, no, but it results. I bought a C6 for a challenge where we were buying $20,000 cool cars. Yeah, but I, but I, I, I, I, I, I bought a Kyan, it's not a weekend car. All right, what do we got? I have a real answer. Could I buy a, could I buy a Cobra? Yeah, keep going.

Oh, this only sold for 16.5, that. Oh, my God, that's 22 and it's a convertible. Yeah. Oh, my God. I think my answer goes to an ND2, meada. I wouldn't get an ND2. It's just not enough power for 22. I can buy a V8M3.

Oh, for 22. You can get a decent 996, 9-11. You know what you can't get RCF track edition. Did you see that sold for 83? Wow, really? Yes, that's what they go for. It's insane money. When do those come down?

They don't. They never will. ISFs never really came down either for the record. Oh, S-2000. You can probably get a Rattie S-2000. Yeah, you get a decent S-200. You can get a decent S-200? You said you want a power. Done.

Yeah, but S-2000 got enough power for me. I wrote W-R-S-S-D-I hatch. Ooh. There's a lot of good stuff for 22. That is also appealing, to be honest, an S-52 shoe-coop. Yeah. S-D-I hatch is cool. That's a cool car.

Is it just for weekend driving? Yeah. Well, yeah, it's a fun car, so yeah. There's a lot of good stuff. Boxsters. Boxsters. I'm a Porsche guy. But Fleepe would buy this.

That's an NB, not NB. You'd, no, but you'd get an MB and you'd pocket the rest of the money. That's what you'd keep on. If that's an option, there's a lot of good stuff. There's a lot of good stuff here. Can I get a 996? Yeah. Oh, I would think about a first genus H.

You can get a 9-6. I would buy four of them. I'd buy, I'd buy three of them and an S-5. That's an S-5. Is that a stick? That's a stick S-5 for 8 grand. Everything. The answer is everything.

Wow, really a view. You know what? You could buy? another E39M5. Yep. Easily. You know, maybe that should be

Kevin Stratt. Instead of putting 18 grand in his car every two years, just buy new ones all the time. It doesn't need it. There are years

that I've like spent legitimately $500 on maintenance. That has happened many times. You know, that also, I was looking at my career GT service records and that also happened my career GT previous owner,

but then one year, it was $140,000. So like, it didn't really even out. I mean, different scales, but yeah, yeah, it still does it. I'm not saying it evens out,

but I am saying not every year cost me, arm a leg of, you know, the other foot. Right. Okay, next question from JRAD-1600. Question for the group. Have you guys ever worked on your own cars?

If so, what is the biggest job you've ever done? Ken and I have done some motor swaps. And we also did a, we put a Tesla drive train into a Honda Passport. Like rich rebuilds, but cooler. Because it's a Honda Passport. Right. First gen, I want to be clear. The second jet.

It was a 98. Yeah, I've done, I did a huge suspension refresh on my M5 myself, replaced the struts and shocks and ball joints, which anybody was done not on an M5 nose. If you have the correct tool, it makes a lot easier. I've done. Camptrap position sensors. No.

And it sucked. It was a really difficult job. But I made it work. Camptych position sensors on that car for those. I have to take the plenum. I have to take the entire intake manifold off. And then they're on the back of the engine. And you have to take the valve covers off.

It's the whole thing. I've done a lot of work on the M5. A lot of bruised knuckles, a lot of cold ones, a lot of swearing. But, you know, then you know it's done right, man. Flipo and I am also, we replaced turbo going to his 500 bar. I thought it was a long weekend. That car is he didn't know me.

Doug or no repairs rather. Doug does not work on his car. I put a tail light on a rangeover once. I once had to help him take off a license plate and he did not know that righty-tide lefty, Lucy was the thing. He turned it the wrong. It was severely rusted and I felt

that a better way to do it would just be to sell the car. Which I did. It was really hard. It was a great picture of me laying on the ground. The fellow who bought the car, I hope you got the license plate off. I have never worked on my cars And it makes me really sad, actually. For a long time, listen, a lot of people who work on their cars

don't understand just how important it would be what it was for them to have grown up at a house where people did this. In my house, there was none of this. And there was no car interest at all. None, zero. There was no working on stuff. There was none of that.

And I never really got the ability to, like, nobody ever showed me how to work on a car. There was never any of that. And over the years, what has evolved is that I have gotten incredibly busy. And now, even if I could work on my own cars, I just wouldn't. And that's happening a lot of my friends too.

However, it's one of the things that I think I would like to do in a future scenario is start learning how to work on the cars and start doing it. I mean, to be clear, my dad is a brilliant woodworker, but he wasn't in the car. So I didn't have that either. But I started with an oil change. And Ryan and I learned together that's actually why we started like the YouTube Chowdy-3-9 source was. We didn't know how to do this stuff, but we read through great written articles with no videos. So we'd learn that and then we'd make the video and put it on there. Ryan's going that into a real business.

And so, yeah, you start with small little things. And by the time it hit me that I should do that, I truly couldn't now. Like, I don't even have time to talk to Felipe. Thank God. But imagine one day Doug works his way up and he's in there listening to the radio with a couple of cold bottles of water rebuilding an engine. Doing a motor swap. Don't forget, one time we fixed a throttle cable on the side of the road on your defender.

I will say, I will say, I am not above, I have done some shade tree like BS stuff. I am not above. And I have a pretty good working knowledge of how these things operate. You can generally diagnose stuff okay. I just have no interest or understanding of how. But yeah, a throttle cable came off of my defender and we put it on with a key ring. And then, and this was the greatest experience of our lives. Do you remember what happened next?

We then went to check the key ring to make sure it was still holding. And I pulled the engine cable, the engine release, the hood release. And it snapped. And then I sold my defender. Maybe more defender experience. So we drove around all. week with no idea of like whether our A line. Key ring was

working and you know what? It was working better than OE. I will say to answer the question. There was a time when we lived in North Carolina and I knew that I would have time which was rare. I bought an E53x5 purposely to be able to work on it because it's a great engine bay. The engines is very well documented. Yes. And it was easy to do some support. I sent you many things. You were very helpful.

I loved helping out of it. I get a bunch of like maintenance related things that are easy to do in that car. I will, yes, totally. I will say it's easier to learn when you're younger. And admittedly, if you want to learn how to do this, buy a car that has a great amount of support. And I just start with small things and learn your way through. And amiatta.

Yeah, and amiatta is a good one. And, you know, you'll learn a lot along the way. I mean, and you'll have to, it's great when you're young because I remember I changed drive shaft once on jack stands. That's not a good, taking off an exhaust and trying to do that in a confined space, awful. But when you're young, you put up with that. Right.

But I think it's a great exercise. and people should do even small things on your cars. Next question. I'm going to cherry pick a couple of really, because we got a couple of really good ones, but they're a little lower. I'm going to cherry pick them this week. Okay.

Next question from Wolfman 6276. Are we going to get an update on the car driving simulator you got from Linus Tech Tips? Linus stole this from us. He's Canadian and he thought we wouldn't come after him, and he's right. You know what he's going to say?

I'm not going to Vancouver. You know, that's literally on its way here. Yeah, it's coming. It's in the mill. Okay, next question. Oh, sorry, don't get you in track. Next question. Right.

Next question from M. M. Minilo. Doug, when you talk about your previous cars, you never mentioned your Kia Stinger. Why was it that bad? On the contrary. Fleetboard can't know about this. It's hard for me to explain how much I liked my Kia Stinger. I sold it to a doctor in Wisconsin. I hope he has done a lot of surgeries with it.

I hope it's taken into the hospital and because I want it back. I loved that car. No part of that. I hope that it like served the community. Do you know what I'm saying? Like it's basically. an ambulance as far as I'm concerned. Red.

Wow. And you could fill down those seats and put like people in bag, dead or alive. You once put a lot of plants in. I remember that. I love that car. I love that car so much. One of the great power trains of all time. I'm only slightly exaggerating.

That twin turbo B-stick, I'm telling you it was so good. I love the steering. I love the handling. I generally like the looks. I think it has to be red. I agree. For the taillight thing. For the tail light thing.

I loved that car. And I sold it to get a new defender, which I never really fell in love. And I still think about how I wish I had that Kia Stinger back. I really liked that car. That was a good car. And it was faster than Kenyon Zem 5. He says that identical 0 to 60s time. Identical.

Not when I'm driving on you're driving yours. I drive M. I'd try M5 pretty hard. I'd still do that. I love, I'm serious. I loved that car. I loved my Stinger. I had a GT2.

That's what they call that. I'm serious. And I love that. It was so good to drive. I have a brochure that breaks down. down exactly what's in each. Yeah, you didn't want the Gt1. Gt1. In Porsche World, you really want the Gt1,

not Kia World. I really loved that car. I thought it was just a great handling, great steering, attractive. I also just loved the fact that, like, I could be so holier than that, because I had a Kia. You know, Kennons out of his BMW, Philippa's out of here with Mercedes. I'd be like, I got a Kia. I don't need your luxury items.

Right. And then he got in his Lamborghini Kuntosh and drove away. I got a couple old cars. I don't know. I got a Kia. Okay. Next question. Question. From Raleigh Art Wagon, which was a great car. Excellent car. For Kennan, you are shopping for a Cayenne, and you have said you prefer cars over SUVs in general. Why are you not considering a panamara? So a great question. What I realized driving the Cayenne Turbo around was that I like having the SUV practicality being able to just drive through dips and not care. San Diego, despite being in a nice place, has awful roads. And a lot of them have dips that allow rinket rain to run through these channels in the streets because they

for a variety of reasons but rain mostly yeah the six days of year it rains here but like driving through the flipos says good shit well the point having the having yeah having the ground clearance just being able to drive through and not care was so liberating to me as someone who's

only owned sedans and sports cars my whole life so may I make a counterpoint may I make a counterpoint going along with what Raleigh at Reagan said you don't want to scrape what if you bought it's panama that was so cheap that you scraped it and didn't care. Huh?

We can just get a Kyanterbski. What's the latest? Are we going to talk about this? Why doesn't a Panama? Altaran exists. There should be a Panama Alterrain. Oh, wait, there was. It's called the Taekon

Sport Tourism. What's it called? Cross Turismo. Proof that he's not a Porsche person right there. He would have known that cold. No, not only what I know it called. It's the 947 Tycon actually.

I mean. And it's finished in Rebel Silver. He says that, but I said 9-58 when he went, it's 9-9-8 when he went, it's 9-9-7. 92A. 92A. C. What is the latest

in the 92A? The hunt continues. I've made offers on a couple of them. I decided to expand it to GTSs and turbos like I talked about. But yeah,

I think I'm close. I think there's a turbo that we've discussed and by the way, to the person on auto trader dot com who has listed a V6

Kyan automatic as a manual. I'm a come for you. I'ma get you. I hate the dealers make them. You're bad. You should feel bad. Every deal of those I should feel that. But especially in this case, because I got my hopes up and I sent it to Kenon.

I sent it to Kenon because I trust in you. You have to love. There were three. And I was like, well, if there's only three, they're all manuals because there's only three. And there were zero actually. But I'm really especially pissed. Two of them, one of them didn't have any pictures. So maybe it is.

One of them was black. So I didn't like it anyway. The other one was the perfect spec. Low option car. That's what you want. The manual special. Nicky Minaj, Superbase. I sent it to Canon.

need to know where you're going. All right. That's the end of our questions. It's the end of our podcast, I think. And, Filippa, you got any parting thoughts? Yeah, this is the most off-the-rails podcast yet. This is the best podcast we've ever done. Goodbye, everyone.

Goodbye.