THIS CAR POD! with Doug DeMuro & Friends! - Spy Shots of New Ferrari are Ugly! Audi RS5 Wagon Revealed! Big Trouble for Scout?

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

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And welcome to this car pot. I'm Kenan. I'm Philippe. There's a lot to talk about. Bring on our first news story. Oh, yes. Stop Start. So the White House recently put out a video related to this.

So the Trump administration has said that they're going to be removing the credits for automakers to install start-stop technology. They claim that it really upsets people. And everybody's mad about it. People don't like it. People don't like it. People don't like it. Me, I'm actually not that bothered by it. Well, you've never driven a car that has.

Yes, I have. I haven't owned one. but I've driven many. You and your life have never been around a car. The first time it happened to me in an 812 super fast, I was a little surprised at that, I have to say. I will say, I don't hate it. I don't feel strongly about it.

You're Filippo. I don't feel strongly about it in any way. We know that you don't hate. We also know that you like government overreach. The government reaches into your house. You're like, come on, government. More, more reaching. Getting out of Filippo's house and reaching.

Some manufacturers think this is good. That's the big thing, is that the White House has put out a video. We can't watch a video. We can't watch a video. We have to watch a video. We can't. There's a video where there's a couple of people. We're not going to explain what they are.

And there's a girl drinking clearly a Coca-Cola. And she's on that side of the car and then all of a sudden is on the other side. And it's in some AI car that doesn't exist. You don't think that's a aroma? No. And it says, they're leaving auto stop start in the dust. I think it was that they're making something hot again. I do have a few questions about the video.

I don't want to talk about the video. Keep it cool while making America hot again. If we talk about the video, the comments are going to be just littered with this crap. We didn't stick to the cars. I'm going to keep a car related. First of all, it starts with a second-gen Prius. We start with a third-gen Prius,

and then goes to a second-gen-preas. And also, the Prius, to my knowledge, does not have a start-stop on-off button. No, I don't think it does. That's the third-gen-gen-preas. The interior in that shot is actually also a second-gen-preas. No. And then we just wait, just wait.

It's all the third-gen-preas. And then wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, yeah. That's definitely... And that is the car portion of this that we can talk about. The auto start, stop, people don't like it, and I think that this is a response to the people not liking it. Yep. There is some benefit that it has.

Emissions. Yeah. I've heard that Europe is going to make it non-defeatable, or maybe they already have. That's Europe. We don't. We don't. Most me, I read the statement, Motor Trend did a great thing of talking to a bunch of manufacturers about what they think. What are they going to do?

Some were like, it just depends on the market. Ford was like kind of yeah. I mean, it's kind of what you'd expect from the various manufacturers. People don't like it. I mean, routinely I hear from people that they don't like it. My thing with it always was

it just seems like it's stressful in the starter motor, cold weather, it's stressful in the engines. Like, it seems like it's... The savings are not that great. Manufacturers, believe it not, do have engineers

and they figured out how to make it out of beef up starter motors and or only... Whatever this comes up... But didn't BMW just have a recall on the stormers? When ever this comes up, the word beef is used.

Every single time the word beef is used. I wrong. It's just, you know. They beef it up. Why can you say enhanced? Every time the starter motor does it comes up with auto-starter motor. Because enhanced just sounds so delicate.

Beef is like, what's for dinner? And also it will only work when you're not, in most cards, when you're not using a C on high, when you're like, when the load on the engine, when the engine's warmed up. It doesn't really matter, though. They're going to cut the credits for it. Who really cares? And auto-making. What do you mean, who cares? A lot of people are going to love this.

And you no longer have to be one of the people who are warm at this light. You can now be one of the people that are... Wait, no, that are hot. Hot, yes. I'm not sure by this. I'm not sure by this. Keeping cool while making America hot again. You know, I don't get it, but that's okay.

It's bizarre. But the point they were making, which you are obfuscating intentionally because you love that government, the point they were making is that people don't like this and they are getting rid of it. And now it will be good. The removing incentive that manufacturers have been pursued. You're trying to imply that some manufacturers will not get rid of it. Of course. I don't agree with that.

I think they're going to get rid of. You, for example, you have a mild hybrid in your E-class wagon. Yeah. The main benefit is that you can shut off more easily as you're approaching a stop sign and then maybe give a little bit of power. The main benefit is that my hybrid system runs accessories such as the little lights on the climate control buttons. What? It doesn't matter. Some manufacturers, especially the ones that have hybrids, that have mild hybrids, I suspect will keep doing it.

Keep those features going. They'll probably do it for cars where they figure the people won't care. But like trucks and Ferrari They'll probably drop it Sure I mean it adds you have to beef up the starter motor For God's sake You have to imagine that they expect

That the credits will come back for it And or that emissions requirements Will come back eventually And so I don't Yeah but if you can get a few years out Of not beefing up your starter motor You take a button away There's no beef

You could go chicken And poultry What's our next news story This is interesting We'll see what happens Interesting and bizarre And root to people that don't purchase This is a big deal

I want to talk a little bit about this. A couple of weeks ago, I get in my inbox there. You know my inbox? Sure. I get a note, hey, this is happening, this RS5, Avant. And they send us little embargoed information. Well, it leaked. Not by me.

But now that the leak is here, I got an email from Audi today saying, please stick to the embargo. Folks, it's out there. I ain't sticking it all embargo. This is not the photo that you received. This is the photo that we pulled from one of those websites. I actually never even looked at the photos. To be perfectly honest.

But this is, because they always give you like a silhouette. That's what they give the journals. Well, the real stuff's out there. This is cool as hell. What do we know about it? That we know know know about it? We know apparently a lot. I was surprised because I had always said if they brought the M3 touring to the States,

I would buy one. I said that for a long time. Yeah. Didn't do it. This is that. But cooler. It's the same size because the M5 touring instead came, which is this giganteau,

giganto normal masso thing it's like a transformer it's like what's the fella's name the transform like the things that you like the boxes that you see outside of a permanent like an electrical transformer no no no like like Optimus Prime like like the Charlotte Buff transform and so it's huge

it's huge is it transformed it may there's got to be some explanation for the weight and knocks down I've ever seen the movies I don't know what it's ready yeah it's ready to fight for you if it needs to there's a component It's built in there It's in the transmission tunnel

Anyway, this is not that This is the smaller So this is M3 sized And it's a plug-in hybrid And it's gonna have some amount of power The rumor mills There's a plug-in hybrid 2.9 liter turbo V6

Which I think is so sad Because that's the motor they use And the RS cars already I don't like that engine Really? It doesn't have quick response From zero It's pretty quick in the mid-range

So a plug in hybrid might actually be perfect It might improve it But I just think You have to download torque Of the electric motor Maybe, maybe You have a star stop.

Audi's throttle tip-in has just never been what I've been looking for. And I bet they're going to screw it up in this car, too, but I'm ready to give it a shot, except in the V8s. The V8s are great. That turbo V8 is amazing. It's not really an Audi motor. It's 600, supposedly 630 horsepower. Wow. That's real.

And a wagon. And it looks like a pretty slopy wagon, but that's okay. No, it's a real wagon. There's no sloppiness to it because you're thinking because they call it the A5, it's going to be slopy. No, it's a straight wagon. You're going to like it. One, my complaints with Audi wagons in the last. last few generations, that they've been a little too slopey for me.

But it's not like, this isn't a practical. What I'm telling you, though, is this isn't an R7. Yeah, yeah. This isn't like a slupe roof thing. This is like a true wagon. I don't know, that roof does go down quite a big. But that's what all out of the wagons has a little. That's what he's saying.

That's true. It's not fair, but this will be very cool. That's a different point. You know what he wants, honestly. He wants a 1998 Volvo V-70. Yeah, or a 210 wagon. He doesn't even care that it has extra power. And you know what he wants in that V-70?

A giant sunroof so the government can come in and I actually do want less power than my wagon. He wants less power. He is the person in that Prius in that video. I want an E220 so bad. Regardless, this is incredible. I love wagons. Much powerful.

I love wagons. I think Audi wagons generally look phenomenal. 630 horsepower. That's real number. Real. Yep. Can't get them excited about power. 630 horsepower.

That's real. That's real. That's real. There you do. There you go. The really cool thing about this, in my opinion, because there's also another body style that I haven't. Pit attention to, and no one cares but that.

But this is the cool one. And the thing that I think is really exciting, truly, really exciting, is that it's the small size. We have gotten already now, the AMGE63, the M5 touring, and the Audi R6. So the big size wagons have come, but they have massive power and massive weight and massive expense. Obviously, this will still be expensive.

It was probably an 85 car. But, like, finally we have a CERSX. 63 sized or an M3 sized. Do we know that it's coming to the U.S.? I'm thrilled. There's clearly been a return to wagons, and I think there's a large clientele of people, like Kenna and myself, well, Ken doesn't like wagons, but I do.

I don't have kids. I don't need the space of a full-sized station wagon, but I would want a station wagon. I think there's a lot of people. Like a sport wagon. Yeah, I think that's right. I think that's most of who bought the A4 All Road back when it was still going on, you know, five, eight years ago. I'm pumped.

I'm pumped. Now, I did say that I would get the M3 wagon. again, if it came to the States, as it made that statement five years ago, life has changed a lot since then, folks, I'm not buying this car. But I hope that you buy it out there. Yeah, we do. Or you even. Yeah, that's not happening, but yeah.

What if they did a reggie, like a two-liter turbo? He went to 1.5. Yeah. But collect a be smaller. And if they gave him 1.5, he has for a three-cylinder. What is all this 1.5? My God. That's a wasted cell.

I don't need a whole soda bottle. Can you take off the mirrors? True Europe. Nice. I do, I'm very excited at the wagon. It's coming. I'm very excited. It's out.

It's out. Sorry. The design is out. The image is out. The image of it is out. All right. Give us the next thing. I'm pumped.

Truly. All right. This is maybe the Ferrari luce. We talked about the interior of the Ferrari luce. I got to be honest. I saw this 10 minutes ago. This is the ugliest. The reason that we're talking about this week is there was an interview where Johnny

Ive, who designed interior. We talked about him. last week. Yep. Also, his firm designed the exterior, too. He's clearly proud of it. And he has said that he's a little nervous about the reveal. What did he say exactly?

Was it that? Is he American? No, he's English. Is he English? Yeah. He's American, though, yeah. He's English. You know, who?

He's English. He lived in Cooper Tierra Airport and is one of the great industrial desire, but he is English. He needs to make sure that everybody knows he's Italian. I, English, American. To an Italian, the English, the Americans, the Austro. He's described on Wikipedia. He is a Serb, by the way, he's a knight, as a British American. Well, okay, but he's...

Anyway, the point is... Regardless. He's nervous about the design of the car. He has said that he's anxious about revealing the car to the world. It's still clearly a Ferrari, but it's a different manifestation based on some of the beliefs around simplicity and the inherent beauty of something. If it... Here's my thought. I just reading this weekend about Michelangelo sculpting David.

Sure. And he sculpted David out of a solid block of marble. Sure. Chiseled a white. until David was left. That's how you made them back. Yep, that's how it doesn't matter. Well, but my point is, what I'm hoping is that this car,

I'm hoping that this car somewhere lurking inside this block of marble. What's coming up? This is what David looked like after he finished the head. They're like one arm. This is grotesque. If this is even slightly close to what it will look like, it's grotesque and terrible.

Little bread van, little bread van. For those, yeah, for those who are listening, to audio. This is a camo, like, Ferrari. You want to describe it to audio? Honestly, it probably sounds better in audio. It's a car that's built for radio. We know that he has said that it will be big, apparently, and that it was, there's no disconnection between the interior and the exterior. It was designed altogether. And we also know that one of the great, this is from Newsom, who is the co-designer,

I love joy. One of the great and certain of the thing, sort of things, is that this is an electric vehicle, the first electric Ferrari, so that has afforded as a degree of freedom that we perhaps would not have otherwise had. Literal physical freedom and creative freedom. That's probably true. They will lose that freedom after one design, if it's bad. Italians should design cars.

All great cars have been designed by Italians, including the original Audi A5 that we were just talking about moments ago. They're still using that design 20 years later. You want to know why? Because of Italian designed it. Meanwhile, this looks like a Nissan Stagia updated for the 21st century. Pull up a Stagia.

please. I bet it would be very, very simple in their general design ethic. Do you see that picture? In their general design ethic, it will be very, like, simple and a little rounded and kind of cool. I love the stage, by the way, very square. This is your kind of thing. But this is what this looks like. It looks like just a complete squared off.

Which I would be into. But I don't think. Ferrari. I don't think Ferrari, this isn't the design language that I'm thinking of. That's why I'm hoping that lurking within this, they'd be. Shizzle away. We saw the interior and it's very rounded, very simplistic, great use of materials.

And that's probably what's going to be true for the exterior to. I bet it will look better than you're expecting that. It has to. Yep. I nonetheless fear, and I'm just going to put this fear out there. If the designer is saying that he's worried about it, by the way, you know, he just anxious about refueling it to the world. Can I turn it last time a British man designed in an Italian car?

Pull up the Alfa Romeo SZ. Oh, yeah. That's a great point. Which I love conceptually, but don't love eyesight-wise. I agree. I... This is what happens when the Italians

ask the British it should be the other way around. The British should be asked in the Italians to design the cars the British should also leave the engineering to someone else. They should sit out the whole process. But this is...

It should build cars. Jaguar, glad you're listening. Sit out the whole process. Look at this. It will be radical. I think it's so cool, though. Felipe, you agree it's going to look terrible. It's going to look radical.

You agree terrible. He's too diplomatic. It's going to be radical. He's hoping people will sell them on cars and bids. We can't talk bad about it. People are going to be selling them on cars and bids, yet for a hundred grand on. Well, that's what I agree.

It doesn't matter. Yeah. What do you think of Porosanga is right now? No, they're still big money. They're still big money. They're cool. It will be, there'll be opinions.

Yeah, of course. People are going to want to pile on this car to hate it because it's an electric Ferrari and that is new and different. And admittedly, I like gasoline engines in my Ferraris. Yeah, you don't want,

four-door thousand horse power of Ferrari station wagon? Let me tell you something. Not really. The way to make a, the way to go electric if your Ferrari is to come out with an F-40, but it's electric. Like, that's how you don't lose people. Well, no, they're going to come out with this and set. Instead. It was an idea.

I don't know if that's true. I mean, electric supercar is like, remonst proved that people didn't. So what's the alternative? Come out with an electric station wagon that looks like the 250 bread. I mean, honestly, if it looked exactly like the 250 breadband. But that's my point.

You go heritage. This is. grotesque. I think so... They added a bunch of... It won't look like this. This is obviously a spy shot... I've seen enough spy shot camos in my life.

You can see in the rear though where like it changes angle dramatically, that can't be real. I'll tell you what scares me. This line scares the hell out of me for two reasons. Number one... He's talking about from the C pillar to the D pillar. Yeah, going the whole... It's basically the belt line. And it scares me because this could be faked

and just cardboard that they have on there to full people. This is a body line. This is what the car is going to look like. Okay? And you know what it reminds me of? the Alpha SZ. Do you think this British fellow who designed this car

talked to his previous British guy? He keeps in mind. John, and the firm. He's one of the great designers. He's one of the great designers. But also, I don't think when the iPhone 4 came out,

he was like, I'm apprehensive about revealing this to the world. He just did it and was like, this is a beautiful product. It was very round. All right. It's like Francis Pursua. I'm going to give this the benefit of the doubt.

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Scout. It's a good-looking truck. Scout, which is a very good-looking vehicle, they announced today that they're delayed. Sad. They delayed another year. They said, and they're delayed until 28, and they claimed, and I think we believe them, they claimed it's because they're having problems with production and all that stuff. It has nothing to do with the current EV market.

Hey, the cool thing about this is that they have the range extending engine. And based on some use a few months ago that we didn't talk. but I don't think. Something like over half of pre-orders are for the range-extended version. The only question that we have is, is the range-extending engine of V8? No. I think it's a three-cylinder or four-sum. Oh, good.

That's what I want for my full-sized truck with Navi tires. That's not what powers it. A three-cylinder. That's not what powers it. That's what charges the battery. Yeah, but that presumably powers it if the battery runs out. No. It does not.

It's like what they claimed the Volt was, but the Volt wasn't actually. No, but the Volt did what I wanted it to. They originally claimed that it never would. The Volt, by the way. named after an Italian. What? That's true. Alessandro Volta.

Oh, yeah, fair. He's one of your countrymen's heroes. Now, I'll tell you, having looked at the original vault, certainly wasn't designed by Italian, probably was designed by a British. By and British. I'm not surprised they're delayed. Why wouldn't they be, frankly? Well, in their claiming technical issues, you agree with me that it's related to the market conditions, right?

I bet that they feel okay being delayed as a result. But they also need to put out products because they need money. Well, isn't Volkswagen backing this whole thing? Volkswagen is backing of Rivian as a part of the technology team behind it, despite the fact that this will be their biggest competitor. And they built a new factory in South Carolina, right? Yeah. Scout did?

Yeah. My thinking is, yeah, they are building a factory in South Carolina. There's still quite a bit more to go, says the drive. Which is probably part of the delay here. The delay is related to the fact that nobody wants an electric car right now. It says there are two reasons for the delay. I'm loving this. combination of technical issues

and existing financial obligations. Well, it's Volkswagen. Volkswagen has some existing financial obligations. I'm still excited for this. Are you? I am legitimately quite a good about it. Yeah, I'm amped. It looks cool as hell.

So, yeah, they're not apprehensive about the design. They're just apprehensive about building the thing. No. These are going to be hits. This is going to be a hit. Yeah, it comes out of thing. Especially here. 28 coincides with the new presidential administration,

so you wonder if maybe they're thinking. I legitimately the current climate and how many they could sell right now it's going to be a part of it but it is hard to get an upstart manufacturer every single company has delayed their launch of the first company. Yeah, but Scout has a lot of excitement behind it

already known brand name. We've also seen Rivian have huge success without an already known brand name. Yeah, yeah. No, they should be trying to move them a little faster here but hey, what's gonna do? Yeah, right, maybe. Or maybe they're just like,

you know what we have existing financial obligations, we're going to wait on this Because we don't think it's going to sell. What does it mean? They're running out of money? I'll tell you, Volkswagen has no money. That's what it is. Porsche's dead.

Remember when Volkswagen announced they would have to lay off people for the first time in their whole history? That was a shame. Things are tough. Volkswagen, remember, here's what happened. And this is a year government overreach. Volkswagen was making those diesel cars that were killing people with asthma, right? Yep. That would be okay now, by the way.

They should bring them back. They should. And it was going great. And then they got found out, amazingly by people of West Virginia University. They got found out. What do you mean by amazing? Let's pull that apart. Well, because it's coal country, dude.

It's coal country. And what was the result of that? They had to go electric. And what did they do when they went electric? They came out with the ID4, which is not well of it, and that van thing, which I love, and unfortunately no one else does. And so they went electric because your government made them. And now they're screwed again.

There's two in a row they got screwed. Every door they open is, there's a brick wall behind it. Try opening a window instead. So now they have existing financial obligation. Speaking of this and the ID buzz, Forrest auto reviews, who we love, has an ID buzz. And did a great kind of behind-the-scenes tour of The Scout. And there's a bunch of really cool interior. I've done a behind-the-scenes tour of the scene.

Can't answer that. All right. Move on to the next one. Forest. All right. Tesla announced the other day that they have built their first cyber cab. Yeah. The first one's out of the production line yesterday.

Yeah. How's it going? How's cyber cap going? You know, they built one. They apparently are not going to start regular production for a few months. So they built one. And also, also, they've been running a cyber taxi around Austin

that's, I think, based on a Model Y. Yeah. The cyber cab is a model 3 with no steering wheel and some changes. Well, no rear doors. Yeah, which is odd for a cap. But nevertheless, their current taxi division

has crashes that are four times the rate of normal human drivers. Yeah, but... Which is tough. But first off, four times a rate of normal human drivers in Austin or just in general? Because in Austin, they'd be crashing into people.

Nationally. Nationally, this is the thing. Austin, they got a much higher... But the other companies, Waymo, Zooks, some of the others? Less. Is Zooks a thing? People keep telling me about Zooks, and I'm like, I only know, what's the one that drives around with the blue Chinese vans here?

That would be Waymo. What is Zeker? Zeker is a company that makes those vans. I don't understand what's going on. We can tell. Zooks may or may not be around. All of these companies, except for Waymo, are on the verge of bankrupt literally any moment. And so that might change by the time you listen.

I might change about time you listen in 48 hours from now. I, for one, am excited for the robotaxies for a lot of reasons. Oh, yeah. Can you name two? I think they're heinous, and I want more of that. Yep. And it's going to revolutionize the taxi industry. Dude, these are going to get into four times when the crash.

Body shop are going to be thrilled. It's going to be great. There's going to be stories coming out of it. You already think about taxi drivers as questionable driver. Right, I was in one today. It was like, wow, okay. Yeah. And now it's being driven by a robot that's four times more likely to crash.

Yeah, it's tough for Tesla's tech on this. Some of them, they're not all Tesla's fault. Tesla reveals a lot less about the crashes than the other companies do. Yeah. But from what we can tell, they're not all Tesla's fault. Right. It's just bad luck. It was just bad luck.

Attre shouldn't have been standing there. Yes. Yes. They are mostly property damage related. There were two that we know of where the cyber cab backed into something, though. That's good. Or the cyber taxi back in the back. Backing up is hard.

It happened because it's my driver. I don't have an answer. Okay, fine. I'm excited for these things. Glad they took this many people to hand build one year. I like the art and pictures. There's all. There is also the guy holding the picture of I assume their child, and that's interesting. Okay, next one.

The child helped build that. Oh, Audi TT. So Audi recently announced a little press thing that went out to everybody in the company that they are going to continue to build the Concept C or the C-Sport, which is their EVTT replacement based on the platform for the electric Cayman. Now, Porsche, of course, there's a lot of questions around if they're going to make that at all. and it seems like they're not going to. But Audi has said, no, Vival makes this regardless of...

Audi literally this week came out and said, regardless of what Porsche does, we're going to do it. Which kind of is an implication that Porsche ain't going to do it, right? Like that's kind of them saying, you know, we don't think there's going to be a Porsche, but we're going to do it. The exact quote was, delivery of the platform by Porsche is not in question. I do think that Audi has a lot more cover to build it. First off, this is an electric car in my mind.

This is what electric car looks like. Yes, agreed. And also, they can get away with it. Nobody cares. Yeah. The TT doesn't have some long gas-powered car history. No. Right.

There's not a dedicated group. Well, there are for the earlier TTs, but it's not like it is for ports for products in general. They have a little bit more. They have a little bit more. They have been treated to do it. So they're going to do it regardless. It's incredibly cool. Yep.

It's going to come out allegedly in 2027. So we'll see. It looks cool. Is this the coolest-looking thing you've ever seen? It's up there. I bet an Italian design it. Probably not. Maybe.

Maybe. No, because it's the same from the original designer. This does look like something Johnny I was would design. if I had to, like, put a designer to it. Yeah, that's exactly right. This is what the Ferrari should look like. Doug's Mac. Yeah.

Look at that. Yeah, it's like simple, clean sheet, Matt Gray. Huh. It is an Italian. For this? Of course it is. I'm telling you. Massimo Frascella.

Let me tell you something. The automakers know, the smart automakers know. If you want a car designed, you go to an Italian. If you want a car built, go to a journey. Except for the original CET, which Peter shares. Within warranty. Yeah, that's true.

Well, that's all you care about. He was a German, right? And now he's in Kia. Right. Imagine what Kia would be doing if they had hired an Italian. Good question. Yep. You know, get your resume right.

They would take it over the world. They already have it. Anyway, I'm pumped for this. I am too. Obviously, not going to look like this in reality. I mean, it's not that far off. Well, I don't think... You need bumpers.

There's a bumper. The original TT is actually the car that proves you don't need bumpers. Right. It integrated them. It looks very cool. It does retain the flip. I think this thing is so cool. I do think the biggest part of this news story, though, is the fact that Audi is kind of, it's another tacit admission that Porsche is not building his car.

Them coming out and saying, well, we're going to do it. We're going to do it. They're not going to do it. Maybe. Yeah. Right. Nobody thinks the Cayman and Boxer going electric. No.

Let me ask you this. If a gas one comes out, would you support them by buying it? You are a Porsche man? I didn't support them by buying a 718. I know, but gas cars weren't in jeopardy then. Now they're in jeopardy. Aren't you? Don't you think it's time to step up and say, hey, we still want gas cars?

No, I'm good. Yeah, because you like that government overreach. Me and Kennan are going to, we're going to jointly buy a boxter. Hmm. I don't know. Congratulations. Thanks. I guess that's what I'm doing.

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This is called the Rolls Royce Phantom Arabesque. Sure. This was like, we're getting racist. Like we're getting close. Yeah, particularly because it was built through Rolls Roycemo Car, their private office in Dubai. Yeah. So it's a little, but the big, the weird thing about it is the hood. Now, the hood they have done, they've three D or they've etched this with lasers. So they kind of took the idea. I think it was Scravito as the Italian. It doesn't seem notable to me. I'll be honest. I've seen a lot of like, wood etched with lasers, seen a lot of, like, metal. Is this an entire foot? In life, yes. This is a car.

Dude, I've seen a lot of, I've seen a lot of electric lamps in my day. Now they're coming out of electric cars, but not notable. They took a piece of metal and etch something into it. Congratulations. Oh, this is the Phantom Arabesque, which I think, honestly, is, is questionable. It's like, in there. It's like, that's the kind of thing that a British person would say derisively in London about a car they saw driving around.

That's arabesque. Yes, it's not a head's another arabesque. It is what it's worth also the name of the style. It's like an ornamental style general. Yes, but like... Same way as like Italianette. You know what I mean?

But I agree that's also a little iffy, so... The estimated cost of this thing is 800,000. Where? The whole car or just the hood? Just the whole... You buy the hood and they throw in the car for free. It's like Ferrari. I love how it looks.

I don't know. If we start seeing... How do you clean it? That is a wonderful question. It's etched. There's still metal underneath it. But think about what that means now. With a really small brush.

There's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. You think the people that buy this would be worried about it. You could PPF it, but even then you're still cleaning the crevices. You couldn't because there's a gap between the two parts of like what's sunken in there is lower. Yeah, you'd have to be really. If we get water in there, it looked like, you know, that's never going to get driven. It's like that.

It's like a lot. What? You remember this? There was this guy who did PPP. I think it was AI. maybe it wasn't, but he PPFed over water and had toys, like, in his car. There's an Instagram video of this.

Are you thinking of the show where they pimmed people's cars? No, it seems like that in the modern air. This is a thing that made the rounds on Instagram. I think it was AI, but regardless of it traps stuff in there. We are never going to see the Phantom Arabesque because of this. What a shame. Because I was hoping this would come to Cars and Coffee. Here in

San Diego, especially for $800,000. I don't see a lot of new phantoms or new ghosts. You know, that's a great point. I do see Colise a lot. Cullies a lot of comments. Saw Phantom two days ago, pulling it into a country club. A Phantom 8? The new Phantom, whatever the current.

He does. It was a 0-4. It was at 0-4. It was probably a convertible. It was probably just a year. It was a silver shadow. I do think that one thing that Rolls Royce should do instead of etching the hoods is come out with a smaller SUV. Yeah.

They shouldn't actually do that. No. It would be a good name for that. I don't know. Like, their names are insane. But like... Why do you think they should do this? Because the ghost was like...

Sold like 8X, the Phantom. It was a smaller sedan, but nobody wants sedans anymore. They got an SUV that's doing pretty well. Come out with a smaller SUV. You got the X5. The ghost is presumably the length of a... The SUV. Smaller, it doesn't necessarily.

I'm just... Like a rangeover sport. You're astonished that I've come up with this idea that nobody's ever thought of it. How about the rangeover of the range of a sport? Do those two sell? Do you think that the brand wants to move down market? I think that when... What do you mean?

They did it with the ghost. Yeah, this has been done already. And it was successful. It was huge. It was like the ghost was competing with the C class. I didn't say, should have come out with a GLC. I just said they come out with a smaller SUV, like a GLE size. No, dude, this is obvious.

The colon is like GLS size. The colon and though is $500,000. It's all saying, come up with the X-7 is the base. They're selling enough of them. They have the X-5 that exists for the base for this thing. They should do this. Come on with one for 350. And then etch all the hoods.

Isn't the ghost still based on the seven series? Yeah, it is. So come, so I would base that. Please, Rolls Rowe's, come out with a five series signed sedan and then an X5 size. No, I didn't say that. You're insane. This is an insane thing. I'm saying, just do what they did with the ghost in the SUV realm.

They already did. They should come out with a larger SUV. No, no, the Cullinant is phantom priced. It's like crazy money. But it's size-wise is ghost size. Well, okay, I'm talking about down market a little. Like the continental flying spur. Do you remember when they have they are now?

Bolton-Royce loves as a term. Let's go down, Mark. Do you remember when they had the Arnage? Do you remember when Bentley had the Arnage? Yes. It was 300 grand. And then they came out with the flying spur, which was the same size but 175 grand. Do you remember this?

No, I don't care, but sure, keep going to go. I'm going to clue you on what happened. It was the greatest success story in the history of Bentley. Yeah. Going back 100 years to when the Bentley boys had cars with wheels bigger than the car itself. Here's a fun fact. The ghost is larger, longer. Than a colon.

All right. We're moving on. Oh, man. We have any more news? No, that's the end of the news. We got to move on to the talk car segment. The talk car segment is brought to you by Ryan Lopez air conditioning, which still doesn't work. What?

I don't know. Felipe, tell us about the pickup. Yeah. The pickup, the F-250 that we inherited, got picked up by Dave, who I mentioned last week, who's been phenomenal. Felipe inherited a 70s, F-2-50, didn't run. I thought it was never going to run. It is currently running. I got a video yesterday.

from Dave that says your truck is an absolute champ. They flushed out the fuel tanks. They got some fresh gas. They unsucked the float bowl and the carb. And it runs. There's some things that still need to happen. EV conversion. No.

But it runs. Like, it still has some needs. Actually, Dave just sacks some need. How old are the tires? The tires are going to be a problem. I have to look for you tires. They're old. They don't have date codes.

Well, when you say, yeah. When did date codes be? The pre-exist date. The pre-exist time and they're older and they've been the sun. tires are two years old, the dickones are on the inside of me. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. The base in the amount of dry rot.

Yeah. But they're not going to be a problem. What's a couple of tires? Yeah, it won't be a problem. I just got to find them. Okay. But it's otherwise close to running. Dave actually just sex me saying that it looks really great.

It needs a few things, but... May I suggest a Resto Mod? No. May I suggest an electric swap? No. May I suggest... It's going to look exactly the way it looks right now, which is beautifully patinaed.

I can not picture you. That is that thing. But then my wife and I, My wife, who is a very meticulous person. You have a little overlaid. Let me see it. You don't see the truck? I've sent you a picture to the truck.

Oh, my God. It's beautifully patinaed. You're going to leave the American flag license plate on the front? I got to put a California plate. Oh, of course. The government's got to reach right in. I run plates on my cars, you know? Reach and in and caress Felipe's hair.

The interior needs some help, but my wife is very excited to get it all cleaned up and we'll replace it. All cleaned up. Drive it right? Better known is re-opolster. Yeah, what help? That's like a seat cover that's been there since the 80s probably. Why are you putting in like a recliner? Oh.

Like a lazy boy, like your barco lounge or situation. I don't think that that card's really made for that. The front seat does move forward and back, thankfully. Good. They don't know. Does it move forward back when you want it to? Yeah, yeah. It's a great truck.

Okay. But it's like it's going to be here. I just, what are you going to do? Driving around. It's going to be here. I will drive to the office regularly, sure. Like hell it's going to be inside of here. That thing parks outside.

No, that thing is. I parked my cars outside as is, period. I'm pumped. It's going to live on my street. My neighbors might be annoyed by it, but it looks cool. One of your neighbors has a super duty. One of my neighbors sometimes has a duly lifted F2 Mod. FD's a D.

And I was at your house today. Everybody parks a long. It's a cul-de-sac. Everybody parks along the sidewalk. He just parks perpendicular to it. I was there host today. A couple of your neighbors, one of your neighbors says floor plates. And so they'll be okay with your truck, too.

So you got two? they will yeah well I'm pumped when is this coming here I don't know but I got to call Dave after this shout out to Dave who's been legitimately awesome do we have like an Instagram handle for Dave or anything

do we have an iconic automotive and Prescott Iconic automotive and Prescott yep shout out to Dave who's been legitimately awesome I'm excited I'm legitimately like I'm glad that it's running

it needs some timing to be set it needs some things needs some timing well You replace it. You got a guy. Yeah, I know.

But that's pretty easy. Apparently. Dave's got this iconic automotive over there in Prescott. Folks, if you're in Prescott, this is on Commerce Drive. Yep. Over in Prescott. If you're out there, go check on Philippo's truck. For God's sake.

Okay, let's move on. But I'm excited. Buy Dave a hot dog. From that place down in Phoenix. I want to talk about, since we're talking about Ford trucks, I'd like to talk about the Hennessy Ranger. Can you pull up the Hennessy Ranger? We sold it this week.

Did you see this? No. Okay. Type in Ranger. I've been out of the office this truck exists. Oh, first-gen, US Ranger. Yeah, so little known fact about Doug, I love the first-gen ranger.

And by first-gen I mean, 2018. But like, it was gone for a bit. It was gone for like 15 years. I didn't know that. I always loved it because it's got a great power train. Hennessy did a, Hennessy of it. You can get, they didn't do a Raptor this Ranger. Hennessy did it.

This has 370 horsepower. That's way too much power. And 450 pound feet. That's way too much power. That's a lot of power. That's like exactly what I've always. wanted in life. I don't want those wheels, which who, who, who. Those wheels are that government overreaching. Let me tell you. Come and take it. Hennessy apparently makes fake beadlock wheels.

Dude, fake beadlock. This is every single off-road vehicle right now. You're not going to fault Hennessy for this. I am obsessed with this truck. I didn't know what existed. I thought Hennessy was only concerned himself with the big stuff like the raptors. I want one of these. This is exactly the truck I want. The right size, the right power. It's sold for 38 Gs. Kenan, should we buy one of these? I don't know. Evidently, I'm getting a new Cayman when it comes out. You got a boxer. You got to buy them used, though, because now there's a Raptor.

For 38, that is a new next gen. The next gen. That's pretty cool for 30s. I really want this. I had no idea this truck existed. Do you know what existed? No. Oh. That's very cool. Can I share some of the cars at Hennessee. The whole time I could have been driving around on a Ranger Velociraptor. I love this truck. We've apparently auction 45 Hennessee

vehicles. Oh. They include that Ranger, a Corvette, a Challenger, a Camaro, a F-150. They do everything. A RAM? Yeah, but you know what they don't do anymore? A TRX? Organize it by year. Can we do by year?

Do lowest mileage. Okay. I don't know if they'll work. You know what they don't do anymore? Guess what is the common denominator of all of the recent cars? They're no longer the Ford, like, certified people, right? They only do Ford. They only do Ford.

I thought they had stopped that partnership. From 21. Yeah. There's a Chevy. Chevy. But like, look at all the new cars. They're basically all four. For it.

or GMs. They told me when I went there that the newer Chrysler and GM cars are mainly locked out for them, like electronically. Interesting. And so they primarily are doing force.

We do have a Lincoln Navigator, Hennessy there. And a Dodge Durango, S.R.T. Helcat, Hennessy HPE-1000. Yeah, there's clearly a few of the newer GMs and stuff, but not anything, not like brand new and very few of them. It's almost all forts.

Hey, how much for it's part do you think the Hennessy H-E-P-H-E-1-000 Durango makes? A thousand. That'd be incorrect. 75. 813. Well, 813, a thousand is relative... It might be nude meters, we don't know. Dude, I want that Ranger Raptor, Velociraptor, so bad.

I had no idea that existed. It's so cool. You don't think this is cool? That's cool. Let's pick one up together. I'm good. Okay. Wouldn't you rather have this than that Ford truck you're getting?

Filippo. I'm excited about the truck. This is Airbags. Well, I am worried about driving the truck around. My wife and I've had a lot of conversations about what will feel reasonably safe and what won't. Can I ask you a question? And I mean this with all the sincerity in that. my heart and I want a sincere answer because I'm being I'm asking it gently. Are you going to

drive it around with a piece of straw in your mouth dangling from? Yeah, every time I leave my house, I'm going to pick up a piece of grass, a long grass from my yard, which is desert landscape. So it'll be hard. We'll see what I can do. I have driven your cars on a number of occasions and every time I've gotten into it, there's grass in it and it's tuned to country. You're almost there. Nothing wrong with that. Almost there. That's right. There's nothing wrong with that. I ain't saying there. I love a little country. And I was listening in the other day. I was listening to the other day to Sirius X-N. This is car-related.

And, you know, the country stations are up in the 50s. I know they're so hard to get to. They screw you. It's really annoying. You've got to go through like blues. Come on. Inexplicably, in the 9-11, serious X-M is enabled for another month.

For some reason, they learn who has a vehicle that's transacted and they, like, reenable it. Oh, really? Yeah. And so, I've been listening to it. Country is so hard to get to. It's so, you. It's so, you know. My Mercedes I got a letter from XM when I bought it because it has serious.

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carpod at MBito.com. That's M-B-I-T-O dot app. Unlock more, spend less, M-B-D-O. Okay, Kenan, you are doing SL-65 things, speaking of. Yes, I've got a bunch of videos that are coming out relatively soon. Kenan-Rolson YouTube channel. That's right.

It's, yes, just my name, K-E-N-A-N-N-A-N, I'll pop up. Go to the Kenon YouTube channel, watch the videos. Thank you. Yes, this week. I have one coming out of car spotting. My friend Kevin and I took a car spotting in Mojolla, which really used all 604 horsepower to do 10-mile power. What I discovered, by the way?

738 pound feet of torque. Do you know why? Because it's twice the ether and 9.5. It's a thousand Newton meters. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Because I went down a Q7 v12 rabbit hole, and it also has 738 pound feet of torque, and I was like, what a coincidence.

1,000 new meters. It makes sense. It's a lot. But I've got that coming. Nick and I are going to go drag racing soon to see who is faster, SLR or SLC-85? What if he's not? He won't be.

I am so afraid. I'm so worried because Nick is so competitive that he's just going to get really aggressive with it. You know, I've had a great experience. It doesn't even matter which is faster. I've had a great experience with this car. Exactly. He's not going to be concerned that his cost 10 times as much as mine.

And SLR is coming soon. The cars in beds. Don't worry. Yeah. I've been trying to get him out of it. Yeah. And then he and I are going to switch cars to compare like drive a little bit because I'm very curious with the SLR's like.

He's very curious what the 65 is like. They're very, very different cars. So we've got some good stuff. They are. One's got V-12. And one will supercharged V8. I hate to say it, honestly. I have driven both of them.

Have you driven his? I have not yet driven his SLA. I've not driven him both. The SLR feels a lot more special. Of course. Your car's amazing. It's super cool. Of course.

But the SLR, everything is bespoke. And... Well, not everything. Well, like, the doors go up in this crazy way. And the controls for all this stuff is just bizarre. Well, you've got door controls on the bottom, then the door handle is mounted in the door sill. I have that.

Yeah, but his is under a thing. His is under a cage for some. That's different. Mine's uncaged. I think the SLR... It doesn't matter. It's so... Oh, no, look, I agree,

and I'm mostly curious to see how much more athletic it feels, because that's what I would imagine the SLR for it. The reason they gave it a supercharge fee it was so it was more immediate in its acceleration. The SL-65 just goes, and then you're off, but you do have some lag. It does feel like a little bit more. Nonetheless, for 10 times the cost, I'm curious about what it feels like.

Not what they cost new, but what they cost now. So I'm excited to play with that car. And then I've got a couple of things going to have. I let a bunch of my friends drive. Not you, because you're going to do a video on it eventually, and you weren't around. I'm not. I let a bunch of my friends drive the SL-65, some car people, some not. Did anybody get that? Wow, you have to watch to find that.

But this is all leading up to what? It's all leading up to, I have decided that I am going to be selling the car. So I'm just like, the thing with the SL65 is I love the motor. The engine is a masterpiece. But the rest of the car is very good. It's just compared to my other car, which is very refined and I use every day. It's not enough of a contrasting experience. Yeah, it's also in a very refined.

A very refined, easy to use car. Yeah. But the thing with the SL65 is the M275 V12 is a masterpiece. And when you get on the highway, it's incredible. But it gets to legal speeds really fast and to enjoy it. have to go very quickly with it. And make a suggestion if you want a different experience. On the cars and bids there?

SLC3. We have Lincoln Continental, LinkedIn 60. I don't think it's live yet, but it will be when this is up, that the Queen wrote in. Was it? Wow. So, anyway, I am already considering, like, replacements for the car, but I'm going to take my time and, you know,

see what comes up, but I have loved the experience with it. It'll be, it goes sometime in March, I think, is when we're probably going to saw it. I've had pictures taken already and stuff. But it is, I love the car. It's just like, it's just, I want something more buzzy and fizzy. And we were talking with Ryan Lopez today about like S-2000, something that's like really engaging, which S-65 just is not, that's not its nature. Can I make a recommendation?

We have an Arsumoto Deliverator live right now. Please pull that up for a minute. Deliverator. Did you know what this was before? No. All right. It's a deliberator. Well, that is more visceral.

So we have, it's got three wheels. We have sold these. It's different. in open passenger configuration form before, and apparently there's a delivery version. Wow, there's a wagon. They called the delivery. I want to talk, since we're talking cars,

I do want to talk about the Q7 V12 TDI brief. Yeah, please do. You know about this car? Of course. Can you pull up a picture? We've never sold one. The Audi Q7... They're not legal here yet, right?

What's that? They're not legal here yet? Well, no, sort of. Sort of. I'm going to explain that. V12. There you go, yeah. I'm not explained. I know of this car.

So, here's what happened. Audi came out with this car, and if you look at any of the pictures, you know how you tell it apart, it's got a massive front end. This has been heavily enlarged. Like to almost comical degree, the press photo doesn't seem quite as comical, but I'm telling you, I was looking at, like, it's big, it's like silly, right? Well, it turns out, this is dead, I'm dead serious, it turns out that they offered this

exterior package called the V12 optic for all the diesel Q7. Really? Really. So you can get the look like exactly the same with V12 Optin. Really? So it's on mobile.de.

A competitive site. I don't know if they're competitive. Nope. Okay, they're in Europe. They're good. They're good. You're good mobile. I was on mobile.

I was on mobile. com. I typed him Q7V12. Well, 12 cars come up are 18. 12 of them of the 18 are six cylinders and V12 comes up in the search string because it has the V12 optic body kit. But here's the thing.

They're all debadged. Even the V12. the Europeans D-Badge mostly. And so there's no way to know. But you just, wow, that is fascinating. The greatest diesel car of all time. It's up there for sure. I can't believe they did a V-12 diesel.

That is just insane. There was a thought in this period that diesel was going to be the future. And if you were going to be into performance cars, you had to figure out how to make diesel. So there was like a BMW 330D and a 335D. Oh, yeah. And there was this. And remember they did like the M-550D and the X-5M-50D? Like they were going to.

Chris Harris' video on that many years ago, yeah. And the diesel cars ran at LaMaw, and then they started killing people with asthma. So that had to stop. Can I just say the regular, like, S-line package looks pretty similar? No, this opening, let me tell you some. I saw one of these. Look up the ones we sold. I saw one on the streets of Prague.

Just Q-7. It was the greatest day of my life. I want to afford one. I saw one. I saw one. I used that. It was delightful. No, it had the V12TD-Ivers in the bag.

Although that's what I would do if I had an optic. Ripped that off. This one's 10, maybe? Go to the 2014 one that didn't sell. No, dude, this is, it's not even close. I mean, like, no, I'm telling you, it's- Philippa, like, genuinely, like, it's not even close. Go back, look, look at this.

No, I know, it's quite larger, but they just broke it up. Listen, I'm going to just put it this way. Me and Canon, who understand automotive subtleties, this isn't similar. To you, I get it. Now, do you want to import one of these? No. A little? No.

Not even a, it's a diesel. You like this stuff. I don't need more power for diesel. V-12 diesel. This might be one car we can actually all agree on. I like this. V-12s, you like diesels, you've had an Audi, R-S-2. I would get one of these.

It terrifies me. They have some miles on them. There are 200,000 miles on mobile. I don't think they're that problematic. This is very, some other YouTuber mentioned this car recently. This is so cool. I think about them all the time. Yes, I saw one randomly in Prague and it changed my life.

I literally freaked out. Like I had just seen an XJ 220. I would have 100%. Yeah. Never do. I can't believe it happened. Okay. We have any more talk cars?

Yes, I'm not going to be here. next week. I was gone last week because I was skiing with my dad in Wyoming. Wyoming. I will be at Moda, Miami, this upcoming week, which I'm very excited about. I've gone to Amelia Island every year for the last nine years, and this time I want to try something different. So my friends and I are going to Moda, which will be very interesting. So if you see me around, come up and say hello. Come up and say hi to Kenan and ask him about his SL-65. Yep. Yep. You're welcome to ask me about that or any other car for that matter. What about the Q7 V12 TD?

Oh, I've got a lot of thoughts about that. I would absolutely. That's a serious core. Or the V-12 optic package, as it turns out. Optic with a K, by the way. I would expect nothing. Like the Cadillac. But that's with a Q.

Oh, yeah. Yes, I'm excited. I'm going, do you any car spotting video? I'm going to go out in a Rolls-Royce corniche with my friend, Gail. It's a friend of mine, Daniel, who has a bunch of cool cars. He's the guy who bought that. Remember the Diablo that fell off the truck?

Yeah. He owns that car. He bought it post for pre. Post, I believe. But it's been under a huge restoration and all those things. So he's a little. So shout-outs him. I owe him in old-fashioned when I see him.

You know what happened in Iowa? Yeah. Or Nebraska? Something like. Like, what do you do? You're in Iowa and your Tioblo? Well, they got it back on the truck. There are pictures of it.

Like, they had to get a forklift to go then and lift it back up. Even then. They had one of those, though, so that's good. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm excited for you. Thank you. What do you think you'll see?

Good cars. I'll probably see John Tamarian. I'd imagine. I'll see the real guy or a Lamborghini? John Tamarian. Both. Yeah. Yeah.

If I can get a picture of him with it, it'd be like getting Balboni with a Balboni edition. I really want that picture. Get all four of them together. Tammarian is with a Tammarion and Balboni is with a Balboni. Perfect. Yeah, I'm excited to go, a new show. It'll be really fun. And I've actually never been to Miami.

I've never, like, hung up in Miami. Well, it's great and there's a lot of crazy cars. Yeah. You got Turo something cool? You should see Miami Turo. Well, the Corniche is pretty good. We did look around at Turo. There are some interesting stuff.

We have an X7 for most of the guy, because I'm going with, like, eight people. Oh, you need a big. Big? You need a big good car? May I make a suggestion? Well, if that don't hurt the screen, oh my God. Jeez. Oh, that's terrifying.

Aren't screens like cheap now? I haven't bought a TV in like 30 years. Yeah. I mean, yes. 30 years, you're still, you've still. I don't watch it. Huge box. All right, we got to move on to the market report.

The market report is brought to you by cars and bids. Folks, it's not just the cars. It's the bids. It's the bid. And the ampersand. That's what makes it so special. Ampercent. Can you pull up this, Jeff Coons?

eight series. We did a great video on the question about it for a second. I love this thing. I've seen it. I've seen it in person. I love it and he's seen it. And that's all he's willing to say. I truly love it. I have also seen it in person. I think it's cool. You don't like it?

I don't have a strong feeling about it. Really? Jeff Coon's this doesn't give you strong feelings of any kind? No. I was happy. It belongs in the mechanic collection. They have an unbelievable collection of cars. This thing is so cool. Jeff Coons. BMW has an art car tradition.

No, no, I'm into it. What are you into? What excites you? You don't get excited by anything. What? No Twingos. The multiple. I'm really sad why I didn't talk more about the multiple.

I'm sad that you bought the 997. You know, I think the 997 is another example of you trying to buy a car that people like. I love the 9-19-7. But you love my car. You like the weird stuff. I love my car. What would you get if left unfetter? We already had a multiple.

I don't feel like I have been. better. I buy the things I want. I would, you text me the other day. We're like, hey, why don't you own a sob? Yeah. That's a good question. You know, my friend and Kevin were going, we were going through Facebook marketplace recently and some cool sobs come up and it's like, I could really shake it to. Why do you have a 9,000 arrow? Because I've always been more of a 900 kind of guy. Yeah, but the 9,000 arrow. That was the dream sob. A 900 SVG would be cool. The 9,000 arrow is the Ether and 95 at the Saab World. Do I own an Ether 9-9-5? Well, but we all agree that it's an amazing car. Yeah, yeah. It's God. Yeah. I should own a stop 900.

I legitimately love my 997, and this is cool. And I'm excited to watch a video. I haven't yet, but on the Cars and Bith channel. There's a video about it on the Cars and Bins channel, and it's a very good video about what I consider it be a very special car, and it's got a Spider-Man interior, which you will never have. That is so... Oh, I forgot about this. It's not just Spider-Man. The seats are Spider-Man, but other panels are different colors. Other panels are brown. I legit think it's cool. I would love to have one. It's very expensive.

I would get one if it were affordable. and I would drive it. A market report, I want to discuss the 599. Yeah. Yeah. You see this 599 sale? Yep. We've been talking on this pod, and I don't think we've actually talked in the pot about it.

Thank God, we've kept it under wraps. The 599s are bargains. They've been selling for 120 grand. Yep. Well, that's over. This was, how many miles were on this one? I think it was a lot. This was a modified car with 30,000 miles.

So you would expect this to be kind of at the lower end. It actually got a lot of bidding, and it sold for $152,000, which makes me. nervous. I was thinking 599s would sit at 100, 120 forever, and I could just pick one up willy-nilly. Totally. It makes the one I drove in New Orleans that belonged to Chris Carbine. This car, at 111,

even with a salvage title, I figured that was kind of bottom on the market, but I mean, it's clear that there's a trend that is going this way, even with ones with manual conversions. It's like, days your cheap 599s might be over. What are you going to do? You're getting squeezed here.

I've never had an interest in a 599? He's getting squeezed. I do think 599s have been way too cheap for way too long, and I'm not surprised the price is coming up. Ultimately, this car offers, it's beautiful. It offers incredible power and performance. Enzo V12. Like every 599 owner will tell you.

Enzo V12, although every V12 Ferrari, since the Enzo, with the exception of the 575 and 612, all had a driver. The 612 has a different motor than the 590. I don't know. There were two 6-liter V-12 Ferraris made at the same time with different 6-liter V-v-12. Why?

It's like when Ford had a 3-liter pushrod vort. And a 3-liter duel over at CAMV-6. One of the really different V-12s. Chain-driven versus belts. I mean, it was a whole thing. Are 612-10 next? Yeah? No, four-seater four-e is never going to go up.

They're really easy to change, though, because the engine doesn't come out for them. They're right there on the front. It's pretty easy to do it. So, look, I could do it. You and me could do it long weekend with a- Legitimately, you and I... With one of those tensioner tools? Yeah, I've got one.

You and I could do that. Boom. Buy a 6-12 and do it. I want a 6-12. Pull up 6-12. I do you love 6-12. Quite values. I've been thinking more and more about six-old.

You say value less. No, they're quite values. I mean, how unreliable is this car really? Where is this going to come back to me? It's such a... Suspension, probably. I would imagine... The transmissions are serviceable in these cars.

I would do a stick swap. Or even better. I don't know where it really hurts you. It's just as long as you like what you're okay with the way it looks, which I personally am, I think they're very elegant cars. It's pretty cool. Yeah. And they're comfortable.

You can... You can fit actual people in them. Yeah, look at that. That's just, it's long. Why don't I have this car for 80? I know. I'm driving on this 993. It costs four times as much.

Honestly, it's what I want. This is a good question. Can I put this in my garage? Probably. That's the, no, we measured it for yours once out of curiosity, and it was like a foot too long. My garage is incredibly short. But I got problems, too, because my desk is there and I got that couch there for some reason. There's a couch in my garage.

I think it must fit, right? I think you could fit. We got to figure that out. Let me ask you something. Why does buying class? always feel like applying for a mortgage. Seriously, you walk in, everything looks outdated, the pricing makes zero sense,

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You want to talk about Ferris Vanquish? Yeah, so Ferret is selling a Vanquish with us, which I think is one, it's not his vanquish, to be clear. His dad had one that Ralph Loring. His dad and then he did the man-warker. It's not that one, it's one of his clients. And I think there's also one here in the office.

I think it is one of the most beautiful cars of all time. So it was like hit and rebuilt or something? Something along those lines. I'm not exactly... What is its color? It's a Ferrari color. It's a gray.

Grigio... Tana di Fuji. Thank you, Felipe. Nice. It's a local Italian gatekeeping speaker. This car is so... Beautiful. With a couple of upgrades, this car could be brand new.

The tail lights are halogens. Nobody does door handles that look like that anymore. But like with a few upgrades on the outside, this car is so... And the inside. If you send it back to Aston, actually... I would do a lot of changes to the inside. They will...

Yeah, they do update the center console and stuff like that. But the exterior... The exterior is just... It's so... It's so... ...the back of your hand, beautiful. Look at that line on the door is such a... It's such a risky line, and it works so well.

Yeah, they really executed it well. You know, Johnny Ives, if you want to execute a lot of it. You want to design a car? This is how it's done. It's similar bell line. No Italian. involved with this car, even though I truly think it's... No, this is Ian Callum at this car.

Yeah. But it, I think... That's a really risky line, because that line can go real bad. It can, but you're doing a... You're doing a vertical line in the middle of the back of the car. But what it did was, it created this crazy rear shoulder that, like, works beautifully. Yep. Couldn't agree.

And just ludicrously expensive. The Vanquish was the last handmade Aston Martin before they switched away from that. But it does give that... It's just like haunches. It's just... My friend Jeff's dad. had one of these, and when we paint corrected it for him, he came back from a day of surgery and looked at it and he goes,

I'm like, car, it just looks wider. It does look very wider. I truly think, still to this day, one of the most beautiful cars. I really, really believe that. It's funny because all the asterans from this era looked the same, and this car looks the same as the other ones, but there are these subtle changes. The long sloping front, the vantage doesn't have that,

and the big wide thing in the back, it was physically a wider car. And it's a long, the way it just pinches toward the front. You know what Kennan doesn't like? I like the fog lights. He likes them. No problem. I will say it's fundamentally an interesting car, right?

This car is live with no reserve. No reserve. It had an accident that resulted in a salvage title when it had 3,700 miles. So it's been rebuilt, has a clean title now, but it's been rebuilt. And driven 25,000 miles since. It's probably good. And also credit to Matt Farr of the Smoking Tire and a Westside Closure Car Storage for taking some great photos including hundreds of pages of service records.

This interior, keep going. It's really orange, and it looks amazing. It looks like that Volvo orange. Yeah, not quite out of comma, but close. In that, in those pictures, it doesn't, but look at it in this. Yeah. It's orange or on the, on the,

this screen is messed up. Probably has people been hit. Yeah, maybe if so. Chestnut and stop doing that. It's a very subtle detail you can see in something. It's like the paddles also have a little bit of leather. That's on the same color. You can see it right there.

Same color. Sable or chestnut instead of the other one. Okay, we got to move on to the questions, which were fantastic. This had to go deep, but I found some great ones. The questions are brought to you by Felipeo and his shirt that looks like he got run over. Put it on. Yep. Tire track, sweater.

Winter tire tracks. Filippo's tire track sweater, of course, is brought to us by Michelin. Are they our sponsor? Not yet. Anyway, here's the deal. If you want to ask us questions, you go to the community tab, right? And there's a thing there that says, cars and bids questions. and you go in there and you ask us questions.

And they were good this week, and I'm going to read it to you now. First question from VN owner. What's the most trouble you've ever gotten into with a dealer, a press car provider, or a vehicle owner? I rarely get in any trouble, and I wasn't going to put this question in because I almost never have any drama or issues. But I have a story that I want to tell,

and I'm going to leave out the automaker for Felipe's benefit. Felipe wants me to tell with the automaker, but I'm going to leave out the automaker so that Felipe doesn't get mad at me for something. They'll never stop me. Six, eight months ago, maybe it's two years. I don't know. I review a car from a dealership, not the automaker.

I almost always now get them from the automaker. Review from the dealership. And the automaker, and the video goes up, it's very praising of the car. Car's great. Still think the car is great. Very praising the car. The video goes up, and the automaker contacts the dealer, and they said, this video has to come down. He didn't, you know, get the car through us.

And you have to tell them to take the video down. And so the dealer calls me, and they said, hey, the company told us you got to take the video down. And I said, fine, no problem, I'll take the video down. Only one condition. The automaker has to call me. You're going to call me direct. I want to hear it from their mouth that they're telling a journalist to take down content. And they didn't, and the video stayed.

But I wanted them to so bad because I knew if I got a call from a car company saying, yo, you got to take a video down. The video that I would then make about such and such automaker told me to remove my video would be so much better than the original video ever could have been, but they wouldn't do it. And I was sitting there looking at my phone that week,

like, come on, come on, but they never called. And then eventually the dealer called and they're like, yeah, they're just going to drop it. And I was like, yeah, I kind of figured they might. Too bad. That's actually happened a few times. Believe it or not. Do believe it.

And when I was early in this, I'd be like, oh, God, I'm so sorry. I'll take down the video. And now every time my response is saying, have them call me. And the answer is never that the video comes down. Because I just want to have that conversation. Don't you want to hear that? Do you want to hear an automaker? And I think they know that they can.

Let's do it. Let's really do it. Anywho, it all worked out. Next credit for me. Do you remember this? I don't. No. Next question from Yellow Wolf.

If you could only drive one country's cars for the rest of your life, which country would you choose? Kennan. Kenan has only ever driven one country cars. Germany. He owned a Ferrari. Kenan is living this. He's currently living this. So am I.

I know you're a German guy. Outside of the Ford. Thank you. America. Wow. Really? Career G. Really?

life would be cheaper you would be you own one American car okay you've only ever owned like two or three oh my god I've only ever owned two give me a break I have a 2001 Ford Explorer Sport

2004 Cadillac CTSV 2011 Cadillac CTSV 1995 AM General Hummer 1997 Dodge Viper GTS 2005 Ford GTS 2005 4GT and 2005 4 GT and 2024 24

Toyota's a car built in Texas by non-union labor, and the only people who are driving it are hardcore republic. It's going to be sold in Japan soon. Really? Yeah. No way. Uh, I think Germany is kind of the most breadth of options. Yeah.

What about Italy? Germany's kind of the most breadth of options. You don't think Italy is possible here? It's not for cars sold in the U.S. No, no. That's not what it's. That's not how I'm reading it, though. I'm reading it as...

Japan would also be a great option. Yeah, totally. You could have a Toyota GT1. I hadn't considered... Everybody's like, CLK GTR! COK GTR! You know what the Toyota GT1 didn't do? It didn't fly.

Right. Stay on the ground. Driven to Japan. We've got a Porsche G2.1. Man, I can't talk you into America or Italy. You could talk into America, probably. Not Italy. Italy was talking to a bowl in terms.

about eight years ago. And then the Italian, like, regular... Exactly. Regular Italian cars took a dive. That wasn't always true. Like, even in 2000s, a 159, a 156... There were good... Oh, totally, great.

The multiple. Yeah, but then things changed. Like, 2012, 2013. The recession was tough. Yeah, it never... It really killed Italy. Italy's cars are now a disaster. Like, it's a rebadged Chrysler 300,

and even the small hatchbacks are kind of gone. Yeah. Yeah. Sad. What a shame. We almost had it. The Panos back, though. Evie, but back.

The what? The panda is back. Yeah, that's true. Okay, next question. From Ensoch 24. You spend time on East and West Coast, but you take a long drive every year back and forth. What is your favorite state in the middle, and where do you like to stop along the way? We got the favorite state in the middle question the other day.

I think I said Arkansas, Tennessee. Still love them. But where do I like to stop along the way? Folks, I'm going to tell you a little story here that Filippo knows. I'm going to tell you the story about one of the places I stop. Yep. In Memphis, Tennessee, which is a great city, that opinion is not shared by most people. In Memphis, Tennessee, there is a hotel, okay, and it's in a pyramid.

And the pyramid used to be a basketball state. And it's currently, but it's now the world's largest bass pro. Can't make this up. It's the world's largest bass pro shops. And this pyramid is like a beacon over the world. And it's right on the other side of the Mississippi River. And when you're driving in from Arkansas, you're like, oh, thank God I'm in Tennessee. And you see the pyramid, and it reminds you, I like the true pyramids of Giza, the Memphis.

And so there's one called that. So anyway, it was a basketball stadium. Now it's a Bass Pro Shops. But there's a hotel in this Basque. It's such a big Bass Pro Shops as a hotel. They're thinking you might want to spend so much. money at the Bass Pro Shop. You might need to stay over.

I stay there every year. I have stayed there for years in a row now, one night every year. And the best part is the you can choose, click on that picture. You can choose your hotel room. If you want it to be outside looking at the city of Memphis, no thank you, or inside looking over the Bass Pro Shops. And so every year, man noodle, we sit on, the hotel rooms are actually long cabins. No, this is false.

The torms are log cabin. You can kind of see them in the background over here. And me and noodles sit on our log cabin patio. They have screened porches, even though they are inside a building. And yeah, there they are. And we sit on our log cabin and patio, and we look out over the best pro shops. Now, to my great, I didn't know there was a boat. Water feature inside.

I must not have that view. There are six restaurants. Yeah, yeah. There are a lot of restaurants. Now, to my great sadness, I drive, I drive, so far that day I'm usually coming from Albuquerque. I drive so far that I've never been able to be there when the Bass Pro Shops is open

and I leave before it opens in the morning. So I've never actually seen the hustle and bustle that can come from this Bass Pro Shops but I am very impressed. Underwater bowling because they do offer bowling at the pyramid. I'm told there's all the water themed.

I just no idea. The first time I did this five, five, six years ago. I've been staying in this hotel for years. The first time I did it I was so excited. The alligators and so I go out on my screened porch in my log cabin with noodle and I'm so excited and I listen and I open the door and the screened porch

and I hear the sound of those floor buffer machines because it's closed and that sound went on all night by the way I wasn't even able to have my door open to hear the sweet sounds of couldn't have the AC from the bathroom shop and back the AC of your hotel room

tragic that's actually a great idea this is a rare opportunity when you can leave the door open you don't have to turn on the AC yourself The LACU. There you go. Sadly, don't play like crickets or something sounded night. Yeah.

That would be nice. For us hotel guests. Yeah, because there are a lot of people out there. They're on the porch by the... How do they not have a water park? That's my surprise. Well, it's in a pyramid. It's a limited amount of space.

They're NASCAR. It's a real thing. The problem is when you show up to this hotel really late at night, there's only a... The front desk is open and then you go into an elevator. Like, the whole floor is closed. Like, I've never even been on the floor.

I've just looked at it from my perch. Anyway, that's my favorite experience. I drive cross-country over here. Okay. This is going to be... This is going to be rapid fire. From EVs and clutch pedals, for all three of us can be rapid fire.

Yeah. Okay. We know that you guys love cars, et cetera. Rank your level of interest. I want to zero to ten ranking in the following vehicles. Boats, zero. Zero. Four.

Oh, nice. Trains, zero. Oh, like eight, two. Okay. Airplanes, zero. Eight, two. Oh, really? Really? You're really into planes?

Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, I keep track of everything I've found. Love planes. Really? I mean, it's almost always one of two planes. It's like a bus in the sky. It's going to be a pretty repetitive. Do you keep track of the buses?

You've been on 1747? That's a great, it's quite an experience. I did ride up on those planes. I did ride on one of those planes that has... Depends on which version of it. I remember one of those planes that has two stories. Yeah, it was an 830. How does that work?

They get two stories on that. I know. It's cool. Does it, does it bother you that we didn't have flight figured out until 100 years ago and now planes have two stories. That's progress. Okay, rockets, zero. Yeah, pretty low.

I have four. Oh, wow. Four is low to you? One. You don't care about space? You don't care about anything. Fine, zero for rockets. What did you say was high?

Boats, I gave them four. Okay. They're interesting. But trains and airplanes, you both gave two and rockets, you gave one. Airplanes, I'll go up to three. I would bring up boats, actually. Sailboats are really cool. And there's a cool boat called Nero.

And by the way, I want to be clear, I love trains as a mode of transportation. Okay. You're just interested in them. I'm not like, I don't care about me. You know, I'm a Tylenol enthusiast, so I do like trains. Next question. Farm vehicles like tractors and combines. Zero.

Oh, like, yeah, like a three. Well, I was a kid that was in it. Five, really? That's the most. They make America work, okay? He lives in Wisconsin. Construction vehicles, which actually make America work, like excavators and bulldozers. Zero.

Five, two. Okay, the farmers are going to complain about that. Four. Four. The farmers are out there working the fields, do. Five. Listen to the podcast. That's true.

Class six road vehicles like school buses and 18 wheelers. Zero. Six. His numbers are so noncommittal, too. It's everything three and six is where they all lay out. Hey, what's cars for you? Zero. No, no.

Eight. Bicycles. All right, motorcycles. Zero. Like a two. Six. Things of like a five. Micromobility vehicles like bike, scooters.

One-wheeler, skateboards, e-scooters, that kind of thing. Zero. Two. Eight. Oh, yeah? Can you name a lot of scooter brands? From, like, a consulate, absolutely sure. Piajo makes scooters.

I find the microability space to be very interesting. Yeah, but you don't know anything about it. I know a lot about bikes. What do you know about bikes? Bikes are one of the great modes of transportation worldwide. It is after the AI summary of it. So we're playing. Rockets, who cares?

Demonstrate knowledge. Rockets. Tell me about frames. I don't go deep on, like, things, like, you know? No, you don't. I'm not, like, a gadget person. Surprise. The bicycle's a gadget.

There are people that get into, like, equipment. Like, our producer, Sean knows exactly what kind of tennis racket he uses, how the strings are tension. Yeah, yeah. I don't care. I buy the one that's, like, generic enough, good enough. And that's fine. Yeah.

I'm not an equipment person. Right. Same. Nonetheless, you said six or eight for some of these. I know. That's why I was expecting more in that rating. Okay, got it. I was expecting more knowledge.

I'm not interested in any of that stuff, but now you know for all of us what our rankings are. I view the rest of those things, boats, trains, planes, like people view cars. Like a nuisance that I have to use. Plains, whatever. People like, oh, planes, what plane did you ride on? I once got on an airplane without knowing what airline I was on. And when they came on the announcements, I thought I was on the wrong thing because I had boarded if I thinking I was on United and it was Delta

and then I checked my ticket I was like oh no no you think you could have gotten on the plane if that was like I didn't it but I'm not paying attention on any of this stuff yeah that's true remember that Stowe who went to Europe yeah okay here's a great question for Felipe oh god from W113 SL whatever happened to automotive night vision

systems do you remember this yeah of course they had night vision inside the the S plus yeah and the Kanalex had what happened to them they got pedestrian safety they got all this stuff but couldn't night vision make a comeback I actually, believe it or not, I had Night Vision in that E-Class Station wagon that I had, that white one. It must have been the only one filled with it.

But when we were driving it like up to Princeton at night, right, from Philly, there's all these, you're on these country roads, deer everywhere. So useful. It was so useful. Was it heads up display driven? It was in your gauge cluster. But I would, you're not supposed to do this, but I would, like, half my time I'd be looking at the thing. Because it gave a heat signature. And you were on roads.

There's no cars coming, but the big fear is deer. What happened to those things? They were great. It is a good question. I don't know. Maybe that was, maybe it was the liability the lawyer said

we can't have people staring at screen. But they have navigation. There are still cars that have them. I was in an S-Mibok the other month that had them. But like,

I assumed it would proliferate. Like so many technologies from that era proliferate like LED brake lights and all this stuff. I wonder if they just never found a way to get it cheap enough. And that, like,

that technology proliferates because it gets cheap. Yeah. You figure out how to build it. You figure out how to build it more cheaply. I'm ready for Night Vision. I am too. Plus Night Vision

has been around and a lot of applications for forever, military applications and, like, I mean, you'd think it could, like, make it into cars. I will say there are some things where, like, LIDAR doesn't matter if it's a day or night. It's not camera-driven, and so you're maybe okay. Yeah, there may become a time when Night Vision

is actually made obsolete by newer technology. Which is already kind of it, right? But I have a car with automatic emergency braking that uses lighter for it. You're maybe also break. It'd be nice to know. It would be. I like to know when a deer is going to come. Even if the car is going to do the braking for me,

I want to know when a deer is coming. Right. Yes. Yeah. Because what if you want venison that night? Okay, two more questions. Two more questions. From Andrew G. Boo, Infinity FX-50s.

Yes. This is the performance SUV that no one talks about. Why is that? Because it wasn't very good. You ever driven one? I've not, but I know enough. It's just motor. That's why nobody talks about it.

It's not athletic. And the transmission's not good. Like, I think they're pretty cool. And on paper, I bet we've sold a couple of them. FX 50s. They had tons of power. All the power in the world. Yeah, yeah.

Turns out of 390 horsepower. Maybe not all the power in the world. 4 horsepower in 2009 was a big deal. And also, they looked so sporty. They looked so good. Yeah. The FX 45, when it came out, had 345 horsepower 2003,

which was a really big deal. It took the Kyan S that same year to beat it out with the V8. The truth is, it's a powerful car. The acceleration times are good. it is just simply not an athletic car. It just doesn't drive sporty. It's simply fast. It's like a Model 3.

It's like fast, but that's like all you get. It's kind of the same way. You remember the Infinity Q50 Red Line or Red Sport? Yeah, Red Sport. The Red Sport 400. Yeah. It would just find, you know. Yeah. They don't make that great of sporty cars. Okay.

Last question. From Kennan's next car. Oh. I wish I knew what it was. If the crew had to stage an intervention to force one member to sell a car in their current fleet for their own good, who is getting the call and which car is going? Nick C-308. Yep. Yep. Yep. P-38. But like four of Nick cars before it even comes to anybody else.

Nick's P-38. The focus. The focus is the wife, don't forget. Nick's focus instantly. Nick's Kyan. The Kian is getting problem. It's looking rough. It's D-Nick.

What about one of the three of us? I think him and one of his GTII. I just sold my Fiat last week, either his GTI or his truck. The truck. Oh, the truck. The truck we're into. I know everybody wants to say it's me and I should get rid of the U3. No, I don't think that.

I just post something recently how much I love that car. Yeah. I just love that car. You and the, I don't even know. Ford GT. Yeah. No way. Kidden?

By the way, I looked it up. The 612 is 10 inches longer than your 4GT. Oh, you could fit it. Yeah, but then you have to think about it. I don't like to think. And one of the problems is the Ford GT parks behind my, desk and I'm always worried that I'm going to send a chair into a car. But one time you ran your car into your house, it's a concern.

It was newly built. You don't know what was that. The house hadn't been there before. You forgot. Shouldn't have been standing there. Totally forgot. And so I worry about the chair going into the car. It has parking sensors.

No, but the chair doesn't. The chair doesn't. That's true. And it's on wheels. Good visibility, though. A lot of folks would put a non-wheeled chair in that desk. Not me. No threat me.

Nick is the clear answer to this question. Yeah, Nick is because he's a degenerate and has, yeah, all those cars. Should we do one more question? Let's do one more. Sure, one more. From H-L-E-I-H-I-E-I-625, Doug, during the driving segment of your videos, have you ever seen a video that made you go, oh my God, and make you lose focus on what you're saying and doing? Believe it or not, that has happened a few times.

I was driving the Waira in Newport B. down PCH and of Shee Rohn was randomly was coming the other way. Wow. That was wild. I edited that part out I think but it happened. This week, two weeks ago I was driving something. Oh, that green AMG GT four door S-63 S GTS four-door E performance close enough. Yeah and I'm driving on the highway and a G63 six by six is driving along next to me and I literally was filming the video and I stopped the clip, took the phone, took a picture. I mean, it's a six-by.

Cars looked crazy. Yep. And then I went on. They didn't look at the 63E performance, Ford or G performance. Despite the fact that it was green. Or orange or whatever color was. It was a bright color. It was something bright. It was bright. I don't remember anymore.

It was green Helmagnar, right? Yeah, I think so. Oh, yeah. Okay, final question. With every generation from Jason Buckholes, with every generation of car getting larger and larger, do you think cars will stop eventually growing in size or do you think eventually we will change infrastructure to accommodate larger cars?

The widths are not getting bigger. That's not really true. Here's what I'm going to tell you all a story that I think you're going to dispute. Cars are not getting bigger. Two things. In the 50s, in the 60s, cars were... Good point.

You ever seen those cars? Fair point. They were huge. They're big. Now they're not. Here's the other thing that I've started to realize. As the automaker grows the car with each successive generation, the people who used to buy that car slide in and buy the...

Like, the CRV is now the pilot. If you're a family, you buy a CRV now. Which it used to be you buy a pilot, but the pilot's gotten big, and the CRV is now where the pilot was size-wise. Two-R-Roe, but, like, that's what people are buying. And this has happened with all of them. The Rav-4 is now the family SUV, whereas it was the Highlander to the point where they're not getting rid of the Highlander,

and this happened with Sequoian and Langruzor, right? cruiser got so big and so expensive, they eventually were like, there's not a market for this car anymore. And I actually think that the automakers will continue growing the cars and then slotting underneath BMW in the one series, right? There was no one series until there was, and now it's like the size of a three series. And so if you want a sporty BMW, that's what you get, and a five series is a big car. That's a good point. And that is the cars will never get big as a result. Interesting. I do think that you see in countries that have a lot of historical infrastructure that they can't easily change a lot of Europe, Japan.

There are still very much a lot of demand for small cars, because that's all that you can reasonably drive around. And that's going to limit size increases. I think if you go to like a new suburb anywhere in America, lanes are really wide. Parking spots are really wide. They want to accommodate that. So there'll be some continuous increase up, but you also still want to be able to drive through Old Town, Philadelphia.

And that street's not going to get wider. And so if you want to do that, if you live there, you're going to need to go for smaller cars. Isn't an old city? Yeah. Okay. That's going to constrain. I think that widths are not growing.

Isn't 80 inches like the max? No, widths are still growing a little bit. Like the ships through Panama, you know what I mean? Right. Another good Wikipedia dive. I think there will be some on the margins will increase, but a lot of the searchers not going to change. I think the cars get bigger, they age out, people get into the smaller ones, cars are getting smaller. The average size of car in the 60s, I guarantee you, was like two feet.

longer than the advertiser car today. We are getting smaller and more efficient and everything's going to be just fine. And no more start stop. And start stop is over. Goodbye everyone. I'm a hot and cold again. Goodbye. Goodbye.