THIS CAR POD! with Doug DeMuro & Friends! - The Jaguar Type 01 Is Here, New Lotus V8 Supercar, the Revuelto Market is Crashing!

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

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I'm Philippo. I'm Doug. And it's time for the news. Ah. Jaguar. A lagging mistake. Yep. I think we've said all we need to say.

Yeah. So what is the story? Okay. This car, which has been shown all around the world, but not formally ready for production. Yep. Now we know the name. This is a jaguars concept, the electric V new jaguar. Yes.

It's called the type 01. Type 01. Or type of one. Apparently, it will be confirmed a four-door, which this, I don't know how many doors this has. Right. I'll tell you what, their shutlines have gotten really tight. I can't even see that. Well, quality, phenomenal.

This may be a two-door, but, like, this, I don't know what this is. And also, what if the door opens, like, a goal wing, you know what I mean? Oh. The real one will not be that. It's going to be a four-door, and it's going to be called the type of one, and it's going to have about 1,000 horsepower and at least 960 pound feet of torque. A thousand horsepower. 985, but yeah. What this is, is the counterweight.

Cadillac Celestic of the Jaguar world, and I have a suspicion it were fair just as well. Do you agree? Equal success, I'm sure. Yes. Yes. How many Celestics have you guys seen on the road? Try to count it out. Let me carry the one of the...

None. Yeah. Oh, combined zero. I also have not seen one, so unfortunately it's zero. But one of our coworkers has seen them. He lives in Detroit, but he has seen them. We have a co-I-I-law. I know a guy who his sister's uncle's.

Saw Celeste. There's a guy the next talent over. He's seen one. Jag says that the type connects to

their heritage. Yep. And then zero one points forward, zero tailpipe emissions, and the first

carve of a new chapter. Zero one. Now, I think that the leading zero in zero one is ambitious.

I think we'll see. I would have just called it the type one. Anyway, what is it going to come out? They said it'll be out. It's going to be officially revealed later this year, which means it's out maybe in a year.

Yeah, 27 is what they're said. I want you to know that per quote, per quote from the Jaguar head, engineers have achieved this with a vehicle that looks and drives like no other electric car. Unfortunately, most electric cars, pretty good. And also, well, I wouldn't mean it drives like no electric car. Like they all, every electric car ever driven

from the Nissan Leaf to the Rimack Navarra drove basically, the same. Nissan's thrilled by that compared they're nine seconds here in Cs. Neither of those cars sold. Both of those cars tanked on the used market, so hey, I have a suspicious of what's going to happen here.

It'll drive like no other electric car. I think it will drive like most other electric cars and I, what was the other thing it'll look like? Yeah, I mean, that's well, there is now spy shots of it and I'll tell you what, it looks like a celestic. Pull up, just type in Jaguar Type O 1.

It's like wild how much it looks like a It's like a good-looking car. It sucks because, that spy shot, it sucks because now the Celestic has competition, which is going to make it even harder to sell Celestics. No, a rising tide, you know. The rising tide of the $400,000

ultra-luxury electric sedan market. By the way, I should know, we also now know that there's no rear window. Oh, good, like Polestar 3. Polestar 4? Yeah, that's the one. No one knows. Some out. That's one.

rear photo. There's a rear spy shot where it literally is a, they may have just, they may have just done a celestic. It's not that one, but it doesn't matter. You get the idea. Are you excited for this vehicle? As excited as I am about any other jag that's coming out. As much as I am making fun of it, I am legitimately excited for it. Well, I think this looks cool. It looks cool. That does look cool. I always felt this look cool, or at least like new and futuristic and crazy. And I loved, obviously, like everyone did, I loved the video when they announced their, of course. They're rebrand. Do you have to watch it in a while?

We were so nice to it on the podcast when it came out. And we had that bunch of people from Berlin it appeared. It was good content, people. It was like a whistling video. You never knew what was going to explode next. That's true. The purple rocks. It was the branding primarily.

So anyway, they, they, this is going to be exciting. And probably 400-ish miles range is what they're targeting. Three motors, 1,000-ish horse power. It's not going to sell it, but then they'll do lesser models, the type O2 and the type of three and all that. You know, Polestar has already backed themselves into the corner by numbering the cars because the two is actually the flagship. No, the four is now the flagship. The two is more expensive than the four. I'm sorry, the three, the five.

The two is the sedan. The two is the sedan. The three is the flagship. The three is the small SUV. That's the flagship. No, the big sedan is a flagship. Well, it's nice to know that's easy to keep it straight. What big sedate? The one you reviewed. It's a hashtag, yes. The four.

The four is cheaper. Just throw out another number below ten there. The four starts at 56. The three starts at 68. The three is the flagship. My goodness, you're right. The three is the flagship. Wow.

So it makes no sense. 68 is so much more than that car should cost. Well, I bet you can get deals. Yeah. I love how it looks, by the way. The Polar 3. Jag is probably going to end up in the same situation, unless, of course, the next car is called something different.

Type 02. I'm excited. It's going to be very exciting. We're going to see it later this year. A thousand horsepower. In all truth, no one is excited, and I really think this is going to be a dud. Yep. Yep.

Also, it was revealed in 2025. It's long lag. Before seeing it in real life. Like the hood. Yeah. Very long. In the back, honest. What do you think is under the hood?

I hope it's a long. Storage, but it doesn't look like it opens, so probably nothing. The Celeste. Well, it's a concept car. The Celestic had a front trunk. Okay, on to our next new story, please. Ah, the Z. The new Nissan Z, which will soon become the old Nissan Z.

Really? Well, it kind of already is. Yeah. The Drive is reporting that the Nissan Z, which has just gotten refreshed, is going to switch to going forward to a... There's apparently a leaked Nissan dealer bulletin that says the Z is going to switch to a... build-to-order production, which means that they won't just be stock units at the dealers. They're going to specifically, like, build them in theory when a customer orders them, but probably dealers will order stock units.

Nonetheless, I think the point is that production is going to decrease even more than it already is, which is significant because I saw one on the road the other day, and I was thinking, wow, that is really rare. It is rare. Yeah. I do notice them when I see them. And, again, we live in Southern California, kind of the land where you can have sports cars and new cars are very common.

Ever since they launched the Newsy, I really just don't see them. So going forward, the 27 updates, which are notable. It's going to be super rare. Like, this is going to be like the 98 supra. This is going to be the one to have. If you're a Mark 4 man.

If you're a Mark 4 man, yeah, which everybody is. Yeah. The updates, the refresh for 27, is actually pretty good. Manual in the Nismo version. Yep. It's desirable. But if it is order only and then built order,

that doesn't really work with the U.S. dealer structured very well or getting sales. I understand whenever car companies have, more or less, whenever car companies have done build order in the past, the building was done by the dealers, not necessarily the customers. Yeah. Because of the way that allocation works. So my guess is, is that there were still be cars. I think what they're basically trying to say is we're going to limit production even more than we already are.

And so Nissan Z is becoming less common. Super just ended, right? Didn't Mark Fight Super Just now? We're on the final edition. This is it, dude. This is the end. The Japanese sports car reared again in the mid-20, 20s will quiet once again, just like in the 90s.

When there were so many Japanese sports cars, Ken's birth was heralded by the Japanese sports cars. His birth year in the lunar calendar, the year of the Japanese sports car. And then? And then it all came crumbling down. And everything has. The prelude, though, is back.

Oh, my God. The prelude, though, is back. The prelude is back. Mine. Not going to make the diet. It's mine. Postalude. I have this theory that I've been nursing,

and maybe I'll drop it here. Oh, please. I don't think the Japanese sports car ever went away. You know how everybody talks about they were in the 90s and then they died? Yeah. Well, there were a lot of them. Okay. Let me posit you this.

3,000 GT went to 99. Okay, and the NSX went to 05. So let's skip the NSX for a second, although... They did sell 6 at its production end. Yeah, but there's a lot of 02-05s out there. All right, 99, 3,000 GT. In 2000, the S-2000 came out. Right.

The Japanese sports car was alive and well. But one, yeah. And in 2000, another very important Japanese sports car came out, the Toyota MR2 spider. And so I think that the Japanese sports, so the six-cylinder Japanese sports car died. Then the S-2000 went all the way to 09, and by then the W-R-X and the Evo and the S-T-I were already here. The GTR was already back, and boom, the Japanese sports car never went away. Those were not purpose-built sports cars. The S-2000?

The S-2000 was, but the W-R-X and the S-T-I were based on other cars, fast versions of pre-existing cars. They're not dedicated sports. Like the M-3 and the M-5, those are not sports cars. Don't agree that they are now dead. There's no S-TI sold. There's no Mitsubishi-Lanser. No, there's a BRZ.

Excuse you. There is a BRS. Okay, same car off as I was called anymore. There is a Supra. There is a Supra, which is incredibly Japanese. The Super is dead. The Supra. is an incredibly Japanese car

and is still around. For one more year. The Z is around. And one to add the prelude. Where do you say the R35 falls on that? It's also good. It's been in production for all of it.

It's dead. Basically. The R35 is barely dead. It is coming back is what we've learned, right? And to be fair, to your point, the GRGT is coming back. That's a thing. The Miata's still in production. Never left, by the way.

Another Japanese sports car that never left. The Miata is old. is the answer. It has never been offered. I'm telling you, the Japanese sports car never went away. This is a lie that you're being fed by German sports car media. That's right. Staples Preferred Business Membership, built for busy business owners, because you've got bigger things to think about. With Staples Preferred, get free delivery. No minimums. Staples Preferred unlocks up to 3% back. Plus, 10%

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All that to say that the last Z from normal production, but you know what? We still have Civic Type R, Integrate Type S. Good point. Everything's rolling. The only accurate left. All right. The only accurate.

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I got to tell you something. I walked in the office day. They told me this would be a new Lotus supercar. I don't know anything about it, and I'll tell you why. Last time Lotus said there'd be a supercar was the Avija. Do you remember the Avigia? I do. Do you actually? I incredibly do, but I think it's pronounced the Vija.

Dude. It's pronounced. It doesn't exist. Okay, I saw one ever, and it was at Villadesd, two years ago, in Lake Como, and it was like doing journalist drives, and the journalists were gushing over it because they had been selected to sit in an Avija. And guess what?

It doesn't exist. They made 130 units. Well, they were going to make 130 units. Yeah, no confirmation. I remember vividly, I remember then really contemplating the idea of is an electric supercar going to be something. And since there have been many others, and the Avija or a VHaw or how do you want to discuss anywhere. But they've said that they're building a hybrid V8 supercar now. So it's not electric.

Hybrid V8. A thousand horsepower hybrid rate called the type 135. Codename. Man, they're sticking with the English. Love saying. Code name, codename. Code name. It'll have at least, this is what they say, at least 987.

horsepower. Now, the JAG only has 986 horsepower. So they saw a Jang's thing and they were like, we're going to step in. Yep. Yeah. Okay. So are you excited or are we don't? I think we're kind of excited.

Chances that this ever exists. The engine is coming from horse motors. Horse motors. Get ready because we got another horse motor story here in a second. Okay, so horse motors for those that don't know, which is everybody, is a Renaulte Geely joint collaboration. Gilei being the Chinese manufacturer who also owns Lotus and Volvo

And the Pulse Star 3 They own every Pulsar 3 But it is actually fundamentally the engineers From the Renault like motor Which has been known to build decent engines Sometimes They have a new hybrid V8 And its Lotus kind of returning

Like moving away from their all-electric initiatives To create a V8 hybrid supercar Okay Okay That is something Lotus is vapor where we don't don't know. I want you to move on to the next new story, which, Kenon, I got you, you're going to go nuts when you hear that. I will say if they can make this with a manual.

It won't. I'd be really into it, but they cannot. They can't. They can't. Because, I know they can't make it with a manual, because today, moments before filming this podcast, it was announced that the Lotus Emira, which is a car that perpetually looks like it's been in some sort of front-end collision. The Lotus Emira, you're not wrong. I love to be a mirror, is ditching its Toyota V-6, a beloved power train. And it's Mercedes-AmG Turbo 4 for a new motor from horse. Yep. So it's getting a horse engine.

A lot of horsepower. That engine will be a turbo 3-liter V6 with 540 horsepower. Okay? It's big power. Big power. A lot more in the cars now. However, it will only be made it to an automatic transmission. But this is the big news.

This is horse. This is a brand new joint venture between the high-tech Chinese and some other company, he said. Right now. Take a guess the number of gears for this automatic transmission. Oh, no. Oh, I'm very afraid. I didn't look at... Tell me it's a CVT.

Take a guess. So your guess is infinite? My guess is infinite. Or, yeah. What did Jason, can we say last week? Or one... I don't know, whatever. It's, I have a weird feeling it's going to be a CVT.

You're joking. It is a four-speed automatic. Four. What? So if you felt that the E-Mira was a good car when it had a manual transmission and a good Toyota, reliable Toyota V-6? Well, too bad.

Have I got new? for you, it's going to be replaced with a 540 horsepower turbo v6 made by horsepower trains, which undoubtedly will be just as reliable as the Toyota V6, made into a four-speed automatic. Like it's 1989. Like it's 1989 and we're buying an XJS. Free speed with overdrive. In their defense.

There's no defending it. There's no defending that. Two things in their defense. One is it weighs just 160 kilograms, which is 10 pounds lighter than any other V6. in the market. You know, I would take 10 pounds to have that one. 10 pounds? Sorry, sorry.

It's hard to find a 10 pound weight at the gym. 10 kilograms, 22 pounds. Okay, spent two weeks in the gym. Second is, I bet that the motor serves as some supplemental gearing. Like, like, the way that they have it set up, I hope, means that it filled in. It's an automatic. 88% of EMIRES are sold to the manual transition. So that's the other thing.

In this press release, they say, people told us that they love the V6. engine and the V6 version is the best seller in the U.S. market. Yep. Because the four-cylons not available with a manual. What a spin. That is an unbelievable spin. What's this fellow's name? Feng is his last name?

Yeah. That's incredible. They love V-6s. What can we say? We're going to do more V-6s. 88% of Emiris are sold. This is a bad... So we've known that that Toyota V-6 was going to go away for a while.

We were hearing about it because it's not complying with new European emissions regulations in this current form. They didn't want to redevelop it. Fine. So be it. The fact that they're not finding a way to make this, find an engine that can be made it to a manual is. Well, how hard can it be?

It already is? I don't know this for a fact, and I'd be curious if there's some viewer who's more of an expert on this than I am. But I wonder if there is a difficulty of meeting Euroemissions regulations with a manual transmission. I wonder if the manual transmission specifically is making it difficult to meet reds. I wouldn't be shocked that that's true. If, like, they can program the automatic however they want.

I wouldn't be shocked if the EU regulators have their drive cycle. I don't know what the test cycle is. I don't know what they measured at, all that stuff. I think that's true. I don't know this as a fact that I'm not saying that it is a fact, but I am curious because we hear rumors about the next GT3 and that they made do it to a manual only for the U.S. And then you start to wonder, well, they wouldn't, they're not idiots.

They're not doing this because they want to. Yeah. There's obviously a need to do it. The power train is, of course, the need. But I wonder if they just, if they're, if there's a reason beyond that. I'm sure there is. But BMW has said that they're not really,

they can't, their ability to have higher horsepower engines in their V6 and their manual cars is limited because they don't want to redevelop a full new manual for additional engines. I do wonder if Lotus and manufacturer is kind of small doesn't have the purchasing power to... Well, it's 88% of sales. I mean, you're doing it or you're not doing it.

Like, 88% that should hit the Chinese especially should be like, oh. That is a sign. Slotty. Questionable, questionable joke. They own the Lotus. The Chinese on the Lotus, and they're sitting here looking at this saying, let's do a four-speed auto. Anyway, I think it's a shame.

Amira's a great car. Obviously, the Amiris that are built with the manual and all that are going to be the ones that everybody wants. The four-speed auto emiris are going to go down like the four-speed auto X-Js. Nice. Poorly. Poorly. Well, if you thought the Amir market was strong, hold my beer. It's going to remain that way for a while.

That's true. And the Amir market is strong, by the way. We sell them all the time on the cars in the bins. One or two a week, yeah. Go to the nearest. You're going to be 90 grand forever. Forever. Like, Evora's still, are 60.

Yeah. It's pretty remarkable. Look at these sales. 83, 89, 89, 93, 99. The only one that hasn't sold in forever was an automatic. Yeah. Truly, you have to keep going down. I remember where it was, but it did happen.

And it was that four cylinder. Four cylinder auto. Despite the fact that the four cylinder auto has exactly the same horsepower as the Super V6, somehow. We both 400 horsepower. Click on this one. Look at that. telling you, it looks like the car's been in a front end collision,

and then the hood is like, is like wedged up a little, because you, like, wedged under a truck or something. I actually, that's a good angle. That does kind of make it look. I love this car. I love this car. Well, you want one. Buy it now?

I don't hate this power train either. I think you just buy it one ever. I think they're just going to make the same. The point of this is I don't think they're going to depreciate like we thought the, like the Elise has. That got to a $35,000 car. Although, did you see the Elise we sold the list? Yes.

We'll pull this up. Here's a news story for you. We sold this. Elise SC, which was 166 of 166 of these Americans, for 65,500 United States down. They're taken back up, Elisazza. A little. The nice Elis is up. Milege is a little low, et cetera. But like this, and it's an SC, obviously, but like, damn.

Yep. You can still get into an Elisa around. Between 35,000 and 45,000 dollars. You still can. All day long. Yeah. But part of the reason they're so desirable is because they are trailer-powered and manual transmission, lovely things.

Move on to our next news story, please. Ah, yes. The Audi Q9. We've been talking about how Audi is going to build a new, like a full-size SUV. This is it. It hasn't been fully revealed. But the interior has, and apparently the interior is the most luxurious Audi interior ever. Wow.

Who said that? An objective journalist? Every journalist that saw the car, you can take from that whatever you'd like. This thing does look boss. It does look good. They should offer that. I love the way. Mercedes-Benz-Mibok would offer that paint color.

And on the interior. And on the interior. They call it Hurricane or Twister or something like that. And I'm glad for Audi that this is coming because, well, the Q7's been around. Q7 is ancient. Q7 is absolutely ancient. And it's unbelievable to me. Yeah.

It's came out in 17? 17. 17. The current body Q7. It may have been 2016, but I think of the 2017 model year. You know, it's amazing to me because that segment is still pretty hot, that whole segment full size. And GLSS came out in 20. I know.

Q7 came out in 17. X7 came out in 21. maybe? Yeah, with a 23. It's the newest car, and it's six years old, six model years old. And the best thing

that happened to any of him is that Justin Timberlake got arrested for DUI and the X-7, the facelift X-7. He was, he knew what to do. He went and got the new one. The Q-9, though, he'll be in a Q-9 next summer.

See in Sagan-Sagaponic. We'll be important for Audi, certainly. And so it's glad it's coming too fruition. The interior, by the way, has a bunch of screens. Doesn't have black,

like the piano black plastic anymore. It looks like every other. Well, Audi's have been kind of killing in tears since total. Then they kind of went down for a little bit. The B-6 generation? They got a little iffy for a bit. Do we have a release date on this vehicle?

It's going to be revealed in full on July 28th. Okay, so it'll probably go on sale this fall. Yeah, yeah. I assume so, because this looks production. This is real. Heavy tariffs. By the way, pay 157. A few weeks ago, we did not talk about this,

but there was also a redesigned Volkswagen Atlas. And that's all we're going to say about that. Wow. Presumably, this will also spawn a Porsche variant. Yep, there will be a full-size Porsche TV. A Lamborghini variant. The Uris Plus. No, probably not.

But there will be a Porsche based on this. There will absolutely be a Porsche. Yeah. And that's great. Maybe it looks cool. Maybe it'll be a new Q7 eventually. Who knows? I'm ready.

Or Q8. Who knows? I'm ready and excited. Ready to see them around successful suburban areas. I do think it's wild that there hasn't been a new Q7 in however long. And that the Q5, when you break, it says, Quatro. I was behind on the other.

day? You didn't watch my Q5 review? No, incredibly, I did. The whole thing, the third brake light, when you stop, go to Q5, Audi Q5, Quadro breaklight, type that in. How do you now, this is like the quirkiest thing in this ever happened? No, Q6 doesn't do that. It's a normal car. But the Q5 is a more normal car. Quadroft brake is one of the things. When you break,

Oh, yeah, it says, click on this, it literally reflects down onto the rear glass. I do love that. You haven't been behind a new Q5? Apparently not. When you get behind a new Q5, watch. It says a lot about it. It's very clear what happens. It says, quattro, it's this whole big thing. I love that.

It reflects from up here, down, backwards, reflects, onto the rear glass, so that people behind you see that it says... I have a true love of cars that have full-width third brake lights. And so does this count? Because it's not technically, you know, it's a projection. Well, the brake light is also that. Okay. I wore the same pair of glasses for way too long.

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The Chrysler Pronto. All right, so years and years and years ago, there was a concept car that was called the Pronto. I think that this is the Chrysler Pronto cruiser. I think you're right. And that the Chrysler Pronto was actually, a, had a front bar. It was a convertible.

The Plymouth Pronto. That's what it was. Okay, so there was the Plymouth Pronto spider. And it was like a mid-engine two-seat roadster. This. Yeah.

And if they had done that, it would have turned the whole company around. That looks like a Saturn sky. Well, there's some spiker in there. It looks like a VX220. Yeah. Which they did do. And you know what?

It didn't change. It didn't turn general motors. It doesn't look at that. Okay. But regardless, This was a concept in the early 2000s, or late 90s. There was news this week that last fall, Chrysler showed their deep budget dealers that they have a very low price, around $20,000 MSRP concept that they're calling the Pronto. And there's a concept for Chrysler.

There's also a concept at that price point for the Jeep and the RAM brands. And so clearly Stalantz is going deep on, hey, should we be bringing a $20,000, a really affordable car to market? Back in the day, this was a sports car, but my presumption, although it has not, no more details have come out that I've seen, is that it's probably a compact car. Compact car, really small SUV. They had one that's shared with Jeep and Ramp. Now, with that in mind, do you remember the Dodge DART? Do I remember? What an insulting question.

How did that all go? You know, except for the engines that had a lot of blow-up issues and the transmissions that also blew up and a bunch of other reliability issues. You know, that car was a great-looking question. A car only went out of production like yesterday. It was a great little bit of car. And you haven't seen one on the road in 10 years. There was a version with a 2.4 liter turbo and a six-feet manual. And that was a cool car.

It was cool. It was. I drove one of those from Atlanta. No, it was 1,200. I drove one of those from Atlanta, Charleston, South Carolina, and Beck. 13 hours in a Dodge, Dart. It's pretty good car. Wow, that's all you need.

It's a pretty good small car. It was a good car. It was incredibly poorly built. Yes. And when I hear a $20,000 car from Chrysler, I remember the Neons. I remember the dark. Neonza were reliable. You've seen one?

Where is one? Well, they were all used. Where is one? They built neon's like, they were all bit, they'd be in Newons like 2010. That was the last time you saw a cavalier. I see corollas from that era, 20 million a second. That's not what I asked. I was very specific in my question. You get my point.

Yeah. And obviously that's going to happen. The caliber you see around, and I was just in Indiana saw a lot of calculus. You know, it is interesting. You see Calibers. You see Calibers and you see Patriots from that gen. You do. You do.

You see Patriots. Those cars were reviled when they came out, but they've actually ended up being pretty reliable. You know, I got to hand it to Stalantis. I actually, I want to, I want to take back some, some bad things I've said. We got a Julia in the office here. You can write the camera for this. It's going to be a short. We got a Julia in the office here. It's got a hundred thousand miles on it. And when that car came out, you and me went to outside D.C. and filmed a video on it 10 years ago. We sure did. And at the time, the complaint about the Julia was that it was going to be trash because it was built by Chrysler and Alpha.

And oh my God. This thing in the office, the interior. held up better than any car with 100,000 miles that I've been in. It's like perfect. Have you been in it? Yeah. There's no wear. I challenge you to find where in that interior. You challenge me to find where?

I'm sure I can't. Except for the driver's seat, which honestly looks like a normal worn driver's seat and a 30,000 mile car. I'll have a look. The rest of the interior, there is no fading on the buttons. There is no fade. It's unbelievable. I do know what you mean, and it is a big surprise.

I now take back all the bad things I've said about. about Stalantis because of the caliber discussion and because of the Julia, they do build cars that last, Stalantus forever! You know, Lotus should think about a Stalantus power train in the Amira. Can we talk about the fact that, Jeep? Can we talk with the, what, the, the, Pennistar?

Hurricane Straight 6, baby. They want a 270 horsepower in their, Amira? Don't they currently have that? It's like a 3.5-Liter V-6. Supercharged, 400. Yeah, but you could supercharge a Pennistar. Hurricane. Hurricane. Hurricane Street 6. It's like 400 horse.

Hurricane. You got a little stretch. The rare engine that's shared between a RAM, HRO and a mirror. HRO. It's R.H. There's like two of them on the road, so you're forgiven for the mistake. That's what I meant. Regardless, I want to talk about the Patriot because you wrote it up.

Yeah. The Patriot's dead. It's been dead for forever. Yeah. But the Compass lived on. Yeah. And not you think that was a mistake. The Patriot was the Boxy one.

I remember. The compass was the slopy one. And they kept the slopy one. I think that The Patriot of Box In this era, I think the Patriot name would probably be better. And it's boxier.

The Compass had a better reputation. It was the nicer of the two. It was more expensive and more upmarket. Boy, did I not think that at a time. It was. The Patriot was the cheaper one. The Compass was the nicer one. They were both trash, obviously.

Regardless, the Pronto. The Calibre died, though. The caliber died. Thank God. It was tough. It was not a good car. Reliable enough. If you want to see it,

did you know back in Ohio who had Calibur's Patriots or Compasses? Zero. That can't be true. No. I didn't know it. One of your neighbors had one. No.

No, genuinely. Because everybody, I grew up in the era of like the Odyssey and the CNN. Yeah, but Calibers were around. I saw them. Yeah, in like 2009, I probably saw them. He was rich.

Back in my town, we were lucky if we could stretch to afford a caliber, I tell you. Times were tough. Yep. Agreed. The Pronto, though, will be some kind of probably subcomback of SUV if it happens if dealers were pushing for a sub-20K car. I don't know if they were or not. Margins would probably be really thin, and so there's a bit of a trade-off, get people in the door.

But if Jeep offers a 20-K option, can they sell a Grand Highlander? Who knows? Regardless, maybe it will happen. Maybe it won't. What do you mean if Jeep offers a 20K car, can they sell a grand high? Well, did they're trying to sell $100,000? sorry, Grand Waggoner is what I meant. Sorry. Yeah.

Yeah. It would be like a wide. I'm going to spoil the surprise on that one. Even without a $20,000 car. Jeep hasn't been able to successfully sell Grand Way. What are you talking about? The 2027 model year of your grand wagon year after 2020 and 6 didn't exist. Oh, really?

That's all great. It took the year off. Took the year off. There will be an extended range EV, Grand Waggonerer. Oh, my God. With 728 miles of range. That's just. That's a thing.

Yeah, yeah, because it's a normal fuel tank plus a battery. All right, I'm pro-grander-regner. This is another example of why I think Stalantis is off the hook. They make great reliable cars that can go long distances. Okay, credit to Stalantis. A couple of fun facts. First of all, they were the first and for a while, the only people to have a plug-in hybrid, like SUV.

That wasn't like a German luxury car. The only people that have a plug-in hybrid... The Wrangler 4-E, the Grand Cherokee 4-E, These were, like, real, interesting, advanced plug-in hybrid vehicles. There doesn't, isn't there like a Kia Sorrento and all that? Oh, wait. The Mitsubishi Outland. Off-Roters is really bad.

The Mitsubishi Outland. The Mitsubishi Outland. Off-roader's is what I meant. I want you to make an apology to Mitsubi. I'm pretty sure that they sold more Wrangler 4Balli than Mitsubishi's sold in the U.S. For years, ever. But also, they had cars like the Grand Waggonier S, which is the single fastest SUV under $100,000.

Now, it was technically the one. Waganeer S. What I say? You said Grand Waganeer S, which highlights some of the issues. They have problems. I'm having problems today. I can't make mistakes. Grand Wagoner, Grand Cherokee, Cherokee,

Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, Grand Renegade, nobody knows. Grand Renegade. This is the Grand Renegade right here. Why don't they have that? Move on to the next. Just Troy, please. The Grand Renegate is the Wrangler.

Thank goodness. Moving on from Slantis to something exotic. This is the Lamborghini Fenomino. So you're familiar with this car? Last year, they came out with a coop version of this car. No, sorry, go back to sleep. You might be, remember this. So this is the limited edition lemurie based on the Verwelto.

It has that same hybrid V-12 power plant. This makes 1,065 horsepower. Now, that car came out last year. We saw that car at Pella Beach. Now they've announced them. They have a convertible version of it. The coop, they only built 29 examples of them. They're going to build 15 of these.

I was there when they announced it. Yes. You were. We were there. I do know about it. Yes. At the quail. The quail.

You were not. We were all three there. Now, he wasn't paying attention. Is it phenomenal? I mean, it's Lamborghini, so they do Spanish wins, so I don't know. Oh, so you don't know. Oh, it's right. How would you say it in Italian?

Phenomeno. This is cool. It's cool. The things with this, with the roadster version of it, they tried to kind of hide some of the arrows so they could maintain the sort of same level of the down force. So, like, we're very careful about, like, the rear treatment of the car. Is this the roadster? but this, for some reason, I produced this show,

I believe the coop. I was gonna say. Explicitly asked also for a picture of the window, which doesn't exist, but the window is weird because it comes, it goes like this, that it goes down. It's like this weird shape. Yeah, look at this window. I love that.

Ridiculous. So, I don't know. It's like the spiker C8 kinda. Hmm. No, that had a metal bar in the middle. But there was window on top that had no frame. It didn't make a curve, but it's sort of like that. The CLK GTR is also like that.

I'll bet though when you close this, unlike the spike when you close it, it goes, boom. I know no one has ever closed the door on a Spiker C8, but that's exactly what it does. I want to talk to you about something. Sure, Lamborghini-wise. But, I mean, nonetheless these are, like I said,

Limitition Caracconcy. Revuelto's are collapsing in the used market. Are they? Are they really? So this might be the one that actually... In the used market, the SF-90 Revuelto price point just has not been a place where the automakers are finding stability. The 12 cylinders are also selling under sticker,

even though the car's been out for like an afternoon. It came out less than a year ago in the States. That is interesting. I do have to say with the Revolto, they've produced a lot of them and have gotten to them to customers very quickly, so certainly supply is not low. Yeah, well, that's the problem. But 700 Gs, there's apparently not support.

The Revolto's done better than SF90s so far, but they're... More appealing product. It is a more appealing product. It's also been on the market for two years less, but... Right, that's true. And so you wonder if we're going to see SF90-type depreciation with Rufuelto. Eventonor has held so strong. They have, and they made a gazillion of those.

Yep. So that isn't an interesting point. If you combine... All of the Bitserini V-12... Is it all Bitserini V-12? No, it's only... The Bitserini V-12 powered... If you combine every Mura, Kuntash Diablo, and Mercy all together.

Probably and 350 G-T-T-T-I-I-W-T-T-R. It's less than the production of a Ventador. That's pretty wild. And when I think about it, how often do you see Avenger's... Rare, this is not on. And even that is rare. Yeah, so... My wife sent me a picture one, two.

days ago on the 163. Wow. That's really. Here in town? Yep. Or up there? Down here. By the zoo?

Yeah. Oh, it's going to scare the animal. It's not equestrian town. But yeah, that's a, nonetheless, like, I don't know, cool limited edition car. That looks really cool. It's probably five million and silly, but like I think it looks cool. Right. I don't disagree.

But on the topic of new cars, there's another one. So Villadeste is upon us. I know. Exciting. I'm exciting. I'm sorry about it. me at Lake Como. I went two years ago, and it was an amazing experience.

It's one of the best car events of the year, without a question. But at this event, a lot of new cars are announced, and BMW Alpina will be announcing their new cloud. Now, Alpina has been involved with BMW for a long time, but now it's officially under the BMW umbrella. This will be the first car that comes out as a result of that, and they've teased this silhouette of it, which is very long and swoopy looking,

and it kind of looks like the 8 series to me. So, do you think it's going to be like a Ford or AMGGGT situation? You don't think this is a four-door car? I think it's got to be a four-door because you could see where the door would be and this would be a hatchback and like, I would imagine that's like an eight series grown coupe

like that's kind of what I think Yeah. Do you remember the bovin-s seeping? Is, no. Pull it up. All right. You want to hear some spelling there? Yeah, yeah.

It's spelled just like it sounds. B-O-V. There it is. Hey, that's pretty close. This was an Alpina thing. What, no. Oh, I do remember. Yeah, yeah.

I think it looks amazing. It was based on the M-4. I guess it's a Zagado thing. I guess it's not related to Alpino. No, no, it is. It's a family behind Alpina that sold Alpena to BMW, but they made a standalone project based on M4 with Zagato. I think it looks cool as hell.

I know. Proof that Zagato can actually make a good-looking car. And so, excuse me, Zagado has made hundreds of good-looking cars. You know when you start to look into it? No, they have. There are a lot of really Hane Zagados. Okay, what about the...

What about... Oh, the Vanquish shooting break. That is a good one. I will counter it with the Ferrari 550 GTZ Vizagano, which is one of the ugliest vehicles I've ever seen. Beautiful. The overhangs are... Look at the side profile.

You ever see the 599 version? 599 GTZ? No, there is one. Yes. Oh, man. It's just as bad. 599 is it good. Oh, my God.

That's my... Those are the Alonzo edition wheels Needless to say that's a $4 million car Oh, Kenan, but you know what was a good looking car? TZ3 TZ3, the one that was based on the Viper Yeah, solid car in person Oh, and how about the DB Astor?

The DBAR1? No, it was the coupe It was like just called it, wasn't it the DB7 Zagato? I think it was just DB7 Zagato. That was a beautiful car. So take that. I don't think The rear of that car is challenging to me.

I think that's great. I don't think that looks good. That's a beautiful car. In that era, that was a beautiful car. No, you know what was beautiful? The normal one and the vanquish. The normal DB7 was beautiful? I'd like the DB7.

It was fine. This is just not good. Beautiful iteration. That gave us the vanquish. That front end. This here is blobby. Anyway. I can't believe we're not talking about this.

Moving on from the... Moving on... Alpina, which is not related to Zagato in anyway. Glad that we had that tangent is rolling this out very... soon on Friday. We'll see what it looks like. Of course, this video will be in this podcast. You'll know already. You'll know we do not. By the time you're watching Anzile Sealsides, idiots. You might be in

Vildesda already staring at the thing. All right, are there other news stories? Surely not. Oh, yeah. All right. Last news story. So there's news this week that there will be a fast and a fierce TV show. At least one. At least one. Vin Diesel is like the executive producer of it. He has said there will be four. Nobody else has confirmed four, but I don't confirm there will be one. But never, the last one and four spinoffs that he's involved in. This week, The New Yorker, last week to New Yorker, has a long-form article about the cultural

impact that the Fast and the Furious has had on Hollywood specifically. But apparently there are actually books, one of which I bought but haven't read yet, about the impact of the Fast and the Furious. Massive. Which, by the way, came out 25 years ago in about three weeks. Really? Wow. We should remember to talk about it.

June 20, 2001. And one of the things that the New York article says was that the original title was going to be Race Wars. Oh, man. Because, you know, that was the thing in the desert that they were going to. They were going to call it Race Wars. The article also said that Universal has made, it's $7 billion the movies have grossed. Surprise it's not higher.

$7 billion. And it's Universal's longest running franchise ever. Also, by the way, if you're curious. Fast and furious, folks, more than you can afford, pal. If you're curious, you should look up why the naming structure is what it is. It has to do with the rights that they had to use the Fast and Furious as the name. They could have reused it in that same way. You know, I thought the whole thing was going to die after the third movie because the third movie, all the main actors were gone.

And it looked like that was going to be the end. But then they found a way. They found away. And then the sixth movie, it comes back together. It's like what I'm trying to start the Kuntash, you know, and it's like, brim. And you're like, oh, is it going to happen? You're pushing the gas. And then it's about done.

and then it's roo-roo-ro-ro, and then it comes right back up. I hate to tell you, it doesn't do that for me. It starts every time. Yeah, I've seen the first three, and other than that, my seeing of the best one is, I think, the best one. I've only ever seen the first one. The first one is the greatest car movie of all time. First one is a great car movie. The fifth one, they drag a safe through to see its religion era.

The first one is the greatest. The first one is the greatest car rigs. The first one is the greatest car movie of all time. It just is. They're a Volkswagen Tuarex. The first one, folks, tell him. In the comments, tell them. I know there's a lot of great car movies,

but when you think about cultural impact, and when you think about staying poor, and when you think about all those lines, danger to manifold more than you can afford a pal overnight parts from Japan, all that stuff. Fast one is probably the most impactful car movie of all times. But if you want to learn more about it,

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Why don't you have a Lexus ES? He will. He will. He will. I don't buy sedans. He's not. He's... I don't buy sedans. Give him time.

I've owned one sedan. It was a Kia Specter of 2003. You don't understand. The new Lexus ES is higher like the Crown, so it gives an S-E-S. No. In fact, incredibly, I do understand. I actually, Philippo, I actually have a... I actually have a something for you about the Lexus ES that I think that you will appreciate hearing.

This is directly from Lexus. In a market overtaken by SUVs, the ES meets the desires of guests who are looking for something different, yet enjoy the spaciousness of an SUV. And I want to make two points here. First off, they call their customers guests. You know, you call us the team members. Team members, yes. I love guests a lot. But I want our team members to feel more at home and our community feel more at home.

They're a part of it. They're not just guests. They're not guests. That's true. The people who buy the cars, if you're watching the video right now, you're a guest. How about that? Well, move on. It's not our audience.

They are our guests. No, I don't like that. No. And number two, you need to understand. In a market overtaken by SUVs, it meets the desires of guests who want the spaciousness of an SUV. Does it? This is you.

I can't talk about it. It's under embargo. I can talk about it. But what I can talk about. Is the Lexus TZ, which is their new three row EVSUV. They did have that there. That's not what I want to talk about either, believe it or not. Philippa is like, can we please talk about the actual

things people care about. No, we're going to talk about something that nobody cares about, and it's called the Lexus LBX. Have you ever heard of this car? I have, because he's never heard of it. Pull it up when you put it in the dock. The Lexus LBX is a Lexus car that is not sold in the United States. What a shame. And it's a little luxury crossover, and you're sitting here thinking, I don't care about this, I don't want anything to do with this. It doesn't matter to me. It's amazing. You read my mind. Oh, but it does. Because there is, Coral Cross, there is, There is, Kenan perk up, a Morizo edition of this. Is there really?

300 horsepower, all-wheel drive, manual transmission. It's called the RR. You are joking. I'm dead serious. There is, there is. For what market? For what consumer? Do you believe this?

So this BS little car, which cares is not a roller cross base. There is a 300-horse turbo three-cylinder, Morizo edition. What? That can be honest, it looks pretty good. It looks pretty good. What? With a manual transmission. That's, bring that here.

That is very cool. That's pretty cool. So the LBX is based on a corolla. Not a Corolla cross, like a GR Corolla. Has to be. Well, I think it's based on like the YAR. I think that motor is from the GR, Yaris. The motion is your corolla, but.

Huh. And the G. This is so cool. I guess it's the same power train. That was the only three cars that use. Wow. Think about that. What's it sold?

Australia and Japan? Globally, they call it. Globally. And it's like globally. I'm on the globe. If you spin a globe, it's going to come to the Americas. It shares the platform that Yaris Cross. There is a car out there, a Lexus Sport Utility vehicle,

the same company known for making vehicles that put you to sleep. That is a 300 horsepower manual transmission, four-wheel drive, little hot hatch. If it's based on the Yaris Cross, that's so small, it's not sold in the U.S. market. Folks, the best hot hatch on the market today is being made by Lexus. Pull up an interior photo. Let's see if it's any good.

I haven't done any research on this car. This is incredible. I have to say if Lexus F has continued, they want to elevate their brand in terms of sportiness and all this. They don't. Well, they're claiming to by going racing and things. If they did bring this.

Six-speed manual, a first for Lexus. That's incredible. That's amazing. I haven't seen this car would do pretty well here if they brought it here. It's so small. And also the entire GAR's platform is not. I don't think it would do well,

but I'm sure they're a car. cautiously awaiting the sales results for the Accura ADX to decide whether or not to bring it. Which is bigger. Not much if it's that side. That is cool. You're small. Folks, you're missing out on this. Right to your local Lexus dealership.

Does Lexus have a presence in Australia outside of the LBS? Lexus is a global brand. They told me that ES is sold globally. Europe, Asia, China. I'm like, really? Available global goods sold globally or two different statements. That's sad, Philippa. But how can you say that about the poor Lexus?

What a great fine. How did you discover this? Because I was looking to see at one point, I wanted to see how many sedans Lexus had at one point had and how many they've got down to now. Five, by the way, at one point they had five. Now they have two. They have two.

And the IS, who knows if that gets redesigned? And so I was on like the model line and then I see this thing and I'm like, what the hell? This is incredible. So I click on it thinking it's going to be boring, which obviously most of them are and I discover this. This is incredible. And by the way, it stands for LBS,

stands for Lexus Breakthrough Crossover. I do remember the game we did for the Cars and Bith channel where we had to figure out what they were all named after. So I appreciate you mentioning that. Lexus Breakthrough crossover. Anyway, Kenan, what do you get for us? Yes, so I have a video out on my channel. I did something.

You did something? To my M5. You were rarely? You're going to show this? Yes. This is terrible. I would conceal it and pretend it never happened. I tell the truth to people.

Nick Rochon would conceal it and tell people it never happened and then sell the car. Yep. Well, I'm never selling the car. So this happens to my M5. Now, I pulled... Kenan hit a small animal. That's not true. There are no small animals in San Diego, period.

There are no animals on the road in San Diego, period. He had a moose. I hit a moose, yeah. No, like the A-class, anyway. So I pulled slightly over a cement parking barrier, and it had two metal barbs sticking up. I did not see that. I also didn't hear it. dash camera footage of this, and I backed up and it just went,

oh, how tragic. Oh, my God. And you can see me, because of the dash camera's right there, I get out of the car and you can see me go like this looking at it. And it did quite a bit of damage, which I'm gonna, luckily none of it's serious, all of it cosmetic, but all of it very expensive. The bumper, the belly pan, you remember how I replaced those fendenters? I was so proud for the big deal.

I had to do it again. Why? Because I snapped it. This snapped the brake duct. It snapped all of this stuff underneath. I thought you just replaced the bumper. I had to replace a lot, because it broke a lot of things. This, like, got stuck and ripped all in one spot, and they're all attached there, and it ripped all of them.

But you were driving it around after it happened. Yeah, because I removed all of that stuff. Like, right there, I took off the belly pan, I took off the photo bumper. You know, a lot of folks say, and I'm not one of them, Felipe, I bet. Yeah. A lot of folks say, if you remove that stuff and then you drove around with it gone, maybe you didn't need it in the first place. You need him. So I, sorry.

Is that say that? Nobody says that. So, yes, it was tough. I did have to drive around with the car a little bit. Nothing mechanical happened. Luckily, it didn't hurt the belly pan, or the oil pan, rather, for the car. But nonetheless, it was really difficult. But now I do have a new bumper, new fresh paint on the front of it.

It looks lovely. I want to give some real advice to people for whom this happens. If you've driven over a parking curb and you realize you drove over a parking curb, the only thing to do in order to prevent this from happening is to keep driving straight, go over the parking curb with the whole car instead of backing up. No, the only thing you can't, I mean, because people say, oh, you could pump up your tires and stuff. It's like, this would not have been enough clearance to deal with it. Quick checks.

Yes, let me just grab those out of my trunk because I carry those around. Like, that doesn't happen. Nothing. There was really like, also I didn't know I had done it. But if you do know, do you agree you would have just kept going straight? No. It's a low course. A rage.

What statement? What I could have. You would have worked? A lot of cars, the front of. the lowest part. Yeah, but you are... I could have maybe found some wood and put it on there and backed up and that would have lifted

the front as up maybe. I like that. I mean, I was in downtown San Diego at my gym. Where am I going to go find some... By the way, excellent parking quick checks. Like, like it's like separated it on both sides. Well, that was the bad...

Well, that was one of the bad parts. I pulled in the spot. I was thrilled because I was blocked by wall on the side. It's the dream. It's a car enthrasing me. Instead, I ripped its face off. So it's like... I should.

I can't win. I should say it is back to looking great. Yeah, the car looks amazing. No, I'm super happy with it. But it was very expensive. I go into all this in the video, and it was 15 seconds. They cost me thousands of dollars.

How many thousands? Almost four. Damn. But there was something I wanted to learn. There was something I did want to point out through because I worry about parts of this car not being available. Bumper's, they did a whole set of bumpers in 2024. There are thousands of them.

So you can still get bumpers for this car, which is nice. I'm glad to hear it. Other parts, you can't. But nonetheless, it was like, My point I want to make with this is even as careful as I am, things do happen to cars if you use them. I've driven the thing almost 100,000 miles now. And so, you know, stuff happens, and it's a car.

Ultimately, I've repaired it, and we move on with our lives. But it was, you want to talk about exposure therapy. Remember how I was all upset about the little scuff I had on the front pump right there? It's fixed now. This was much worse. Yeah, but now it's gone. So in a way, this was actually detrimental to you because you got that fixed. Yeah, but I had to live with no face on the front of the car for a while.

That was worse. It didn't have a face. It'd be like if I took Felipe's jaw and just... That's right. Yep. So I was... This was hard, but, you know, it also was making me start to think about... Selling the car.

No, about getting a daily. Oh, my God. About getting a daily. I'm tucking this away. Because it's like... We're selling the car. This just wasn't... No.

I did think about a couple days ago. I think maybe you should sell the car. Were you really thinking of that? Yeah. No, I'm not selling the car. I'll get into it with you later. Off camera. Yeah, it's not going to happen.

You've tried. There's no point. Don't waste your breath. Philippo, you want to talk about the, you went to an event. Yeah, we at Cars and Bits were at a Cars and Coffee that we put on alongside Tyrak and Wallnop of America and American Braintom Association. And I was there alongside a couple of folks from our team. And it was very nice. I talked to like hundreds of people from the South Bend area that came down from like hours and hours away.

Hours and it was all from the South Bend area. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Point taken. It's a big metro. It's a big metro. It's a big metro. It's a big metro point of Fort Worth. I spoke poorly.

I really, though, appreciate it talking to everybody there. It was very nice. There's some gifts that I need to give you one of from one of our viewers. Somebody give a little pin for Ryan. He of no AC, Ryan. Ryan Lopez got something? Yeah, but it was very nice to kind of connect with so many people and see you all. What was the most interesting car there?

Anybody bring an LBX? No, sadly. But somebody did pull up in a Saturn-ion redline with his dad, and his dad was one of the chief engine engineers behind the LS series of engines at GM and a bunch of the other kind of GM engines that we know of.

That man's a goddamn hero. He pulled up in a force owner Saturn. I'm still looking for an ion red line to review. Are you? Oh yeah.

Are you kidding? Those cars are incredible. The ion SC is just like a cool car. Or a first year with the removable with the two-tone upper and lower. You know what the first year?

They have these removable body pants. It's a whole thing. I don't remember that, no. And force-poke wheels. The ion was cool when it first came out and they kind of like decontented it. All Saturns were kind of great for a bit.

I love that serious Saturn. It was a short bit. Unfortunately, we don't know that because I have a Saturn video. I'm not releasing. I don't want anybody to know what's in those files. Can I talk about another event, though, if we have? Yes, but for two seconds. All right, we have an event coming up at Velocity Invitational.

We have an incredible lineup of cars that will be there in person and then ending on May 30th. There's a link in the bio here for the, if you're watching on YouTube, go to the page where we have all the auctions that are live. by the time this podcast goes out, there will be 18, if not a little more, auctions live with some truly a special cars. The cars we have at this are unbook. How did you find these cars? Did you do anything? Yes.

You must not. But mostly not. No, I don't know these cars. But we have a 430 scud. You shouldn't see. Well, we have a Julia TZ1. Can I, talk about? You may. Well, yes, because one of the cars I am representing myself personally is there.

This Lamborghini Uragan-Performante. So this car is going to be there. I will be there. Felipe will be there. You did this one? I'm personally doing this one. Yes, I did a video on this car, and I'm representing it for the owner, and it will be there, which I'm very excited about it.

Kenner went out to North Alabama. The other day, I looked at Kenan's location. He was in Florence, Alabama. I was like, what in God's name is Kenan doing there. This is what I was doing. He was with this Perfermante. The owner of this car, I'm going to be helping him with several of his car. So he has this, Agarra, and Garda Supalajara,

and Garda LP 550-2 Spider, and he has an STO. Really nice STO. And he's in Florence, Alabama. which if you're not familiar is truly go to the middle of nowhere turn left and go some more. That's Florence all about. Not much. He's got a bunch of Lambos. Does he have a Mark 4 Super Turbo? He does not have a

Mark 4 Super Turbo. Okay, this is cool. The cars we have are unreal. There's a 99 speedster like no miles and a narrow body 1999 speedster. Fun fact. 899 Speedster. I don't know anything. Of course, Felipe brings up Porsche's. And also there'll be an incredibly low mile. CRRS Cosworth. There'll be an incredibly low mile

R34 V-Speck. Midnight Purple. Midnight Purple. It's a special, special car. These will all be live when you're watching this, by the way, so go check them out. Go check them out. These are the coolest cars we've ever auctioned our entire life as an auction. It's a pretty serious group of cars.

If I'm... Across the 18 cars, I was doing the math earlier, it's something like $4.5 million in cars. Oh, damn. Filippo. Filippo, the math man is salivating at the revenue opportunity for cars and vids. Our fee is cap, and so our effective take rate will be very, very low on this cars. It makes money. But the cars are...

Filippo says, ooh, cars in DECB is. Bids. That's exactly what I say. It is exactly what you. That's the flip-it does when he goes home, folks. It is my literal job. I want to move on to the market report. Speaking of this stuff, I want to move on to the market report, which, of course, is brought to you by cars and bids. Cars and bids, oh, Sean's looking at me.

No, Sean, don't go back down. Put the headphones back on. Cars and bids is the finest auction platform on the planet for anything. No, cars or not? It's even better than all the other stuff. Yeah. We've auctioned all their stuff.

We have other stuff. That's true. Auction to couch once. There's even cars and bids. There's now even cars and friends. Which is a great podcast. And it should be called Cars and Buds, but we'll move on. I did a video recently with Jason Camisa, and it was quite something.

I have yet to watch it, but I've told that there's some controversial ones coming. There's better ones coming. That one was good. There's better ones coming. We even did a video, Jason and Doug share their controversial automotive opinions. Please tease one. Okay. One of mine is that Felipe's shouldn't be allowed to drive.

No, a pretty good job. Never been an accident. I agree with that. Never, like, injured a car. Okay. Not yet. I want to move on to the market report. Eventually.

The market report actually, of course, is brought to by the Lexus LBX. The Lexus LBX. It is the best hot hatch for sale today. Sadly, not for sale in the U.S. Of all the view. I want that. I want that. Give us one market report, and then Kenan's going to go us one,

and then we're going to move on to the questions. Let's talk about things that I like, which is cheap, full-size SUV. Let's talk about it. Pull up that X-O. No, no, start with the Q-7. You know what? I gave you this X-S70.

You owe me big. Okay, we sold this Q-7 for $16,000. The Q-7 is still the same as this generation. Has it hasn't changed. But on Taho plates, too, it looks so great. And it has a bunch of legitimately good performance mods, or 34 Motorsports, like a good Audi modifier. Modific.

This is a $16,000 car. And it looks beautiful. It's like 90s. something. So the XC90 was even more important. The XC90, we failed to sell. Failed to sell. Although it is in the right ballpark for value because I've looked at XC90s.

So I send this XC90, Filippo. I sent it to XNi-Ni-Fi. I sent it to two people, Filippo and my buddy Perry, and I sent it to both of them. Why don't just send it those? I don't know, I don't know, but I sent it to both of them. We're on one text trip, individually I sent to both of them, and I said, I can't believe it's a $15,000 I'll use car. And they both said, yeah, and it almost looks like

a brand new one. It does. And I was thinking myself, almost. I'm like, no, they both Facelift. No one can tell it apart from a new one. Most people can't tell it apart from me. I said most people, I can't tell it apart from me. I have no clue. There was a facelift in 25.

Like, damn, they just got a new. There was a facelift in 25. Which looks worse, actually. It is incredible. So this is a $15,000 car. It does not look like. 2023 had a bunch of upgrades to the plug-in hybrid. But nevertheless.

You could buy this and look rich. Today. You will look rich and you'd be safe. No, the point of this is. It's like I was talking about, as a daily to retire the M5 as a daily. It's like there are a lot of... You can't drive an X-C-9. No, obviously, I can't.

But like, there are appealing options out there. Go back to that Q7. The Q-7, though, I want to look at it again. At that price one, I just want to see the results. General, all of them. Incredibly. Just that one was a beautiful color. Look at these results.

These cars, 13,000 from 17. I know. It's appealing. Wow. 148 for this. These are brand-new-looking color. It is truly incredibly appealing. It's the current design.

Yes. It's incredibly appealing. We have our stage. wagon, which I love and will keep for a long time. But my wife has always wanted either a V6 Rav4, that was her dream car for years, or an XC90. XC90. And like, you know, it could be something that we make happen for 15 grand.

Well, you know, you can get an early X90 for like two. First gen. Pull up an XC90. She's a seventh, she's a second gen fan. Or order by lowest price. Let's see how cheap these got. Oh, free. Look at this.

That is to this day, I'm going to go out on a limb. Click on that one. That is to this day the greatest looking SUV. of all time. E53X5. Yeah, I'd put the X5 in there as well. I do love this. Also, Yamaha V8. Yamaha V8, straight pipe it. Although this one, there was a few years when it wasn't the Yamaha V8.

All right, Kenan, can you give us a market report, please? Yes, I noticed something interesting this past week. So we sold a car that I'm not sure it's going to come up like that. It's sold, so you guys show that more. Oh, wait. We have a lot of Chevroatss. We have a lot. It really did not realize that.

It turns out also. Oh, yeah, wow. My goodness. It's closed three days ago. There's 12. Yeah, we still. We're running. Did you see the result here?

Joe, just so people know if they are in pay attention, we have 275 cars live in any given moment now. Yeah, pretty crazy. We got to scroll. Back in the day, yeah. Six years ago almost. It was when we started, yeah. So this is a 1922 show.

You see this result? So this is a pre-work car. This is a brass area, which is completely incorrect. That ended in 1915. But this car, this sold for 4,720 American dollars. Yeah. Now, here's the thing. this is like a canary in the coal mine to me.

When I think about, like, a lot of people talk about it was like, oh, cars in the 1950s. The generation that appreciates those is diminishing, we'll say. And what's going to happen to those cars? This. This is what is going to happen to this. Type in Chevelle. Type in Chevelle.

I had a buddy, a neighbor of mine, sell his Chevelle. This car, 47 he sold it for. And he had bought it years ago on Bring the Trailer. And he modded it and made it nice. It's a really nice car. It looks nice. Yeah. And he sold it for about what he paid.

We put a lot of money and it sold about what he paid for. I think he was disappointed, but I've been watching over at the Bring the trailer, the old Porsches, it ain't pretty. The really old ones. Modern stuff, the 993 is the modern air cooled. And this is a trend. This is so clearly happening. Yep, yeah.

This car is definitely like a bit of a bellwether because it's really old for grand. I mean, come on. It's not running, but the car probably is four moving parts. Right, right. Yeah. Okay, let's say you double the amount that's into it. Like, I mean, you know what I mean? It's not.

Yeah, yeah. But that Chival, old 9-11s, long hoods, the kind of stuff shone's into, this world, this world is changing. I agree. The 60s stuff, the 50s stuff, the 20s stuff. Right, right. I realize this is a bit of a stretch. But my point remains.

Like, I think this is a signal, Terry. And as you see all of these cars, all these modern Ferraris and all of these more modern cars from kind of our era become expensive. Yep. The changing of the guard is happening. And, like, you know, even like, you know, David, 250 GTO result. Like, people said that was low.

It's like, I don't know. I think that's kind of where it is. Market correct and probably falling. Yeah. Exactly. There will be a time when the 250 GTO is not the world's most expensive car. Granted, it's that Mercedes that sold for 150 million. But that was like a one-of-one.

Like the 250 GTO as a theme, I suspect, will eventually get replaced by vehicles such as the Career GFT with the Formula One power train. Which it does not have, of course. But nonetheless an interesting case study. It is an interesting case study. Since you brought up Porsche, can I say one thing about Porsche market? Okay. All right, here we go.

Look at 92. Oh, my God. What tidbit are you going to hit us with here, we haven't heard before you? We've got to talk about Porsches today. He's just a Porsche guy. God, you know, him getting in 9-11 is the worst thing it's ever happened. Click on that blue one.

That's a 2020 9-11, 10,000 miles, Miami Blue. Yep. Stick your honor, it was 137. Yep. So with old Porsches going down, new Porsches apparently, even automatic, 992s that are so replaceable are at MSRPB 6 years later.

It's because it takes no effort to own one. That's part of it. But there's some dislikability. Even for an enthusiast. It's a good daily. It's a great daily. At MSRP six years later, I don't get it. If you've got something special in the garage you want to preserve like a Mark 4

Supra, it's a good day, then. Yeah. By the way, obviously good photos and reserves, no reserve, et cetera. But still. In good color. And low miles. It's not like they made money on it. I mean, they only drove, they only got 10,000 miles out of six years.

So there was a barely driven car and it still dropped. But your point is well to take. It's still dropped to MFRP. You know, a Highlander. Right. You would have lost more money on a highlander. People are, oh, the portions are so expensive.

Well, actually, TCO, the highlanders more expensive. Somehow. Yeah. Okay, time for the questions. Time for the questions. The questions, of course, are brought to you by Kennan's hair. Kenon's hair. There's lots of it, and it's very thick.

You too can ask your own question. You can't have hair like that. No, I've tried. It does not work. I feel very lucky as I'm 30. I have lots of hair. But you can ask a question. You go to cars and bids.com.

You click somewhere on the community tab, then you click somewhere in there. Also, there's a link in the description. Okay. Okay, questions. We want your good questions. This week, they were pretty good, so we're going to answer a few of them. Starting with one U.S.

It's like Lewis, but the one is an L, the L is a one. Hey, Doug, curious on pre-production cars after I saw the X-60 video, do they let you drive it, just not review it. When you do drive them, are they really rough? No, usually the pre-production cars, when I get them to review, are actually production cars that they claim are pre-production cars. They usually are made on the assembly line. They usually are made with basically all the same tolerances and stuff.

But there might be a few little things that aren't quite working perfectly. The main reason that we're not allowed to actually drive a driving review pre-production cars is it's an embargo thing. They don't want me to have an advantage over other people, whatever. They don't want to kind of piecemeal give out cars to people. So there's going to be an actual launch where they actually have people drive the cars all at once so they can do a true embargo release of all the reviews. I remember the Ford Bronco for you being an exception to that, right? There have been a few that I've done, like, the cars that were basically concept cars that weren't actually running,

but stuff like the X-60, and I've done it with a few, a bunch of other cars, actually, where they're pre-production, but like the ID buzz, I did a long time. It was pre-production, but, like, it was production. But they want to tell you that it's pre-production to kind of couch any potential issues, then there might be some potential issues, but usually the cars are pretty much ready to go.

They just, you can't, that's, if you're going to release a car, you can't release it to one person, you have to wait until all the production-ready cars and all the people are at the same place, and that's just the fair way to do. it. We're all about fairness here. Next question from Ryan D-79, Kevin, this is for us.

Dude, Doug. In general, you seem to prefer unmodified cars. During the WS6 video, though, you mentioned how good the aftermarket shift knob was. Yeah, but you should see how good the OE one is. You tell them. What was your favorite modification? Are there any modifications that you thought you wouldn't like that you did? I'm not opposed to modifications.

I'm not particularly in the case of reliability. That's a big one. usability. So for instance, like adding a Bluetooth module to a car or something that gives you the ability to stream your phone of the car, fantastic. It makes the user experience much better. More or less, all of my cars are modified. That car is not, but the other ones, I mean, we added an axle lift and a Bluetooth and heated seats to the career GT. The Kuntosh got a built motor. Hell yeah. The Ford GTs got stuff. I mean, they all, there's short shifter and exhaust, they all have stuff. I'm not opposed to modifications. I just some people, and I'm not going to,

I'm not going to name anybody. I don't want to embarrass Ryan Lopez. But some people take it a little far. Well, when you completely transform the experience of the car in a way that makes it objectively worse. And harder to use because it bottoms out on a leaf. Like, it just is not, like, reasonable. Like, I just don't like that. Like, I want to use the car. I drive.

So, like... Exactly. You know, I'm not about that. I think that the... That some... That the modifications I don't like are the ones that either drastically change the look. from a car that's look I already liked, or ones that change the driving experience

to make it significantly worse. Now, there's arguments over what worse could be. Ryan would argue that his drift car is better because of how he modified it, which may be true, but he also can no longer drive the car. Right. I have not seen it leave this office. A long time.

It sits over there. Yeah. But he can drift the car. He can drift the car. Also, never seen him do that. Never seen him do that. Seen vetted cars and coffee, and it sits statically there.

That's where the, yeah, especially the reliability thing, because there's nothing less cool than breaking down in a car. Yeah, so I'm not opposed to mods. I have a limit. My limit is probably shorter than what most people's limit is,

but all my cars are modded in some capacity. I just get it, you put the big wheels on and this and then that and black out stuff, and it starts to be like, eh, I'm not really into those kind of mods. That's what I would say. Yeah, exactly.

And neither is the market that will then buy your car after that. They agree with some exceptions, yeah. Right. Yeah, very far and free between. And part of the question is, Has there ever been a mod that you thought you wouldn't like that you did like? There are some wheels that I think were okay.

Other than that, yeah, some stuff. I mean, short-chifter, nothing that I go in thinking I'm not going to like. No, there's, yeah, there are definitely some mods I've seen. I saw an R-53 mini, just, or a nice little red one with white OZ wheels on it, and it looked so nice. I was like, that's cool. Like, I'm here for that. There's a lot of, like, exhausts that do actually sound good or open up an engine node or whatever.

Yes, there are some that are approved. Yeah, it will. Okay, next question from Rex. 2277. Dear Doug, what happened to the bloopers at the end of the videos? The question for Nick, our editor. Not Crazy Nick, who I wouldn't trust to edit a tin can. Can you imagine? Edit a tin can.

I don't disagree. I don't know what that means, but. I wouldn't trust Crazy Nick to edit a voice message that James Ingallsman speaks me from Toronto. Anyway, what happened to the bloopers? The answer is, I became a professional. I don't have any bloopers. Yep.

Next question. The editor Nick is nodding me like, it's very rare. I used to have more, but like I'm pretty good at this now, and it's actually very unusual that I like mess up. And when I do, I usually just start again. There's not much laughter and stuff. Sometimes it happens, but it's rare.

It's rare. The TZ, we got an alpha TZ coming. That's up tomorrow, right? That's live right now. There's a blooper in this week's video. Take that. Mr. Rex 7277. All right, next question from Daddy Doug 26.

We're speeding through these. To Daddy Doug and Friends, carmakers saw how iconic the lightweight three-seater sports cars like the F-1 and T-50 are. Why don't other automakers make them now that they see how Gordon Murray was able to do it? Gordon-Murray was not able to do it. It's an important distinction. The T-50 is not legal in the U.S. It's only here under show or display, which is a law created for very special, very limited production cars to come in and be driven by rich guys. and there are airbag regulations that prevent three-seater seating arrangement in vehicles.

The McLear and Speedtail had the same problem. It also is a three-seater, one in the center, two on the sides. The side seats, even though there are probably airbags somewhere in front of them, are not close enough to the airbag to comply with U.S. regulations, so the Speedtail also was a car that had to be brought in a short display. You cannot, the question is actually, now that they've seen Gordon Murray has been able to mass produce it, how other automakers do it, there's no mass production of this. the only way that these cars are allowed to be sold in the U.S.

is through their shore display, which hinges on their low production. There will be no other cars unless they could figure out a way to get an airbag in front of those side passengers, but that's basically impossible because of egress. Like, you'd have to put an airbag, essentially where the door opening is to get to climbing inside. I don't think it's possible.

Anything to add? You wish they had them. Oh, God, yes. Next question. from XT. Ben, this is one for Canon. Dear Doug, but it's for Canon. As you grow older, again for Canon, do you find that you have less patience for daily driving a fun car?

Will you not tolerate daily in a car with sporty suspension, for example, big bolstered seats, etc? Yeah, well, I mean, luckily, my daily driver is pretty comfortable. But if you, as you get older. You know, I have run into situations where I'm like, it doesn't need to be a manual for this situation. Wow. Wow. You're admitting this. That said, I did buy an automatic,

and I was like, what am I doing? This is boring. I went back to having a manual. So I'm not quite there yet. I'm on the press. But when you drive hard-edged cars, do you feel now different than you did when you were 23? I've always felt like this. Really?

Like, when you drove those types of cars when you were young, like you occasionally would get, you know. You know, I like it on occasions. Like the Ford Daytona Coupe that I drove, I mean, that thing was, I mean, that's a race car. Make no mistake about it. And I loved it. But I'm like, this is great as a fifth car in your garage. I would not want that as the second car. And you've always felt this way.

This hasn't changed you've gotten older. No, for me, no. I've always liked to have slightly more comfortable. Philippe, you've never been into sports cars. Obviously, for me, yes, deeply. There's been a noticeable change. Yeah. Like, I had daily boring cars.

Yeah. Yeah. The only three-choid turbo. What I said? I think the all-terrain was kind of like an eye-opening thing. That car is just like you didn't need these. Yeah, remember, that car's faster than Nick's wagon zero to 60. Yeah.

Especially with Nick driving. But it's so comfortable and it's like its purpose is just like ease. And it's just like nice. Everything about it is just nice. Yeah. For daily, that's what you want. I've got more into that. It's definitely true.

Can I share a story? I mentioned that I mentioned a few weeks ago that my wife who drives a lot. Yeah. And in traffic was getting a little tired of having a manual train. Uh-huh. Today she's in a Hyundai-A-Lontra rental car because a bunch of logistical reasons. And she called me on her way up to work, towards Riverside and complained that it wasn't peppy enough.

and that it didn't handle well enough. Wow. Didn't handle well enough? What was she doing? I don't ask questions. I tell you what she's doing. She's gotten experience in a GTX. She's white line certified now.

Yeah. So she doesn't feel that way. We're going to do one more question. One more question. Okay. Ink droid B. With BMW stopping production of the Z4, Jaguar F-type is gone.

Porsche's Boxter is gone. Do roadsters have any hope in the U.S. market? The me on. First off, not just the U.S. market, but globally. The TT is not mentioned there. that's also gone. But it might be back. The Mercedes SLK is gone.

SLC is gone. The CLE, though, is around. Yes, but it's a question about roadsters, which I think specifically is referring to two-seater. We did. We did forget to talk about the Z-4 is dead. The Z-4 is dead. We didn't talk about in the news, but...

Our roadster is gone. I'll tell you this. The most popular convertible on sale today? Jeep Wrangler. A Jeep Wrangler. Roadsters live! It might be the Ford Bronco this year. We don't know yet, but...

I do think that there is less and less of a market for those cars, and the SUV killed them like it killed everything else. I also think that part of the premise of a roadster is some relative affordability. Like, the people that want more luxury and higher end are probably going to want four seats or more space. And so the, like, roadster specifically is like an affordable segment comparatively. That is also kind of just gone. I think so.

The new SL became a roadster. That's not selling at all to utter trash. I think that the market. The Grants for his most... No, four seats. I think that even then just convertibles. Like, I think that the market has generally sort of started to reject less practical cars. Except for.

Except for the Mustang. Except for, two seats, manual top. The Miata? Yeah. I mean, to a degree, I guess, you know, that Miata's in its 13th year and its life cycle because there's not a lot of will to redesign, right? I think that they will redesign. but like it's not like every, it used to be where like, you know,

there was a convertible version of the Chevy Cavalier, the Toyota Paseo, the Honda Civic. Like all these cars, yeah, dude, the Civic convertible. Look it up. It was called the Del Sol. Well, yeah, that's why I was,

but that was a separate model. Oh, it was a separate model. I was trying to think if it was ever, if it was ever called the Civic Converdable. It was called the Civic Del Sol. Civic of the Sun. That's true. Civic of the Sun.

Point taken. S in this case. Anyway, the convertibles are gone. I do legitimately believe that the SUV played a big role in that. I think that there used to be that in order to have any sort of performance you had to get sort of a sportier car. And these days, everything has pretty good performance. And also people want to set up high and have practicality. And the fact that they're able to do all that in one vehicle, as opposed to compromising on stuff that roadsters used to make you compromise on, why not just get an evoke?

It's as fast as a roadster. It's cool. And it also can fit all your friends and your dog and your frisbee golf, if you're, I do miss Frisbee golf. You used to play. I knew it. I knew it. I never knew that.

Not surprising. I do think, though, I'm excited for Lexus's PR speak when they reveal the ES convertible. I can do everything a normal convertible can. What Lexus should do is give us the LBX. We want the LBX. Start a letter writing campaign. LBX. Go to your Lexus dealership.

The Marizo edition specifically. Oh, yeah. I want the regular trash. Gotta say that. Any final words? Sean, do we have to promote anything that you haven't told us yet to promote? We did it. I'm pretty good to slipping those in.

Filippo slipped it in. Check out all the velocity cars. I also did it if you don't mock one that's coming soon. Yeah, the velocity cars are so cool. So cool. Goodbye everyone. Goodbye. Hey, y'all.

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