This Is Important - Ep 133: How Do These Guys Even Know Each Other?

Episode Date: May 2, 2023

Today, this is what's important: Compliments, sea lions, the best couch to crash on, David Letterman, The Fantastic Four, Jeff Fahey, animal wranglers, school bullies, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hi, I'm David Eagleman. I have a new podcast called Inner Cosmos on iHeart. I'm going to explore the relationship between our brains and our experiences by tackling unusual questions like, can we create new senses for humans? So join me weekly to uncover how your brain steers your behavior, your perception, and your reality. Listen to Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last season, millions tuned into the Betrayal podcast to hear a shocking story of deception. I'm Andrea Gunning, and now we're sharing an all-new story of betrayal. Ashley Lytton was helping her husband set up a business Venmo account when she discovered

a terrible secret. I saw it in a folder, and I opened it. What the hell did I just see? Listen to season two of Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Between April 1971 and September 1972, six young black girls were snatched off the streets in Washington, D.C. This child was laying on the side of the road. The person said, I murdered your daughter. The killer believed that he may have been seen. I will admit the others when you catch me if you can. Signed Freeway Phantom. Listen to Freeway Phantom on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to This Is Important, a production of iHeart radio, the show where we talk about what's

obviously most critically, crucially important. Today on This Is Important, this podcast has brought us together in ways I've never dreamed. Yeah, no, we'll clap for sure, Naked Grandma. I might have tried to rob you for a fun dip, too, man. You look like a mark. I'm the invisible woman. That's what's up. And here we go. Okay, what were we just saying? What were we just saying? It was hot. It was heated. We were talking about compliments. We were early YouTube compliments. That's what I call comments in my Instagram account. I call them compliments. Let's, let's go through and read the compliments. That's a cool window into the way your brain works. Yeah, that's how it should be,

man. You know? Yeah, bitch. More compliments, I'll go. This guy's compliment says I'm not funny and ugly. Weird. That's an interesting compliment. That shit's important. This guy's compliment says my Down syndrome brother is cooler than you. Okay. Okay. Factual. I gotta keep it a honey. Well, yeah, this compliment says I bet you stink in real life. What the fuck'd you say, bro? No, that's about me. What the fuck'd you say, bro? That's about me. It's about to go down. It's when somebody's talking about you. That's about me. That's about me. Oh my God, you guys. I was just talking about him, but it seems like it's about me, brother. I don't know if you were doing that to justice to the way you wanted to do it.

Who is? I think you were like, oh, it's like this, and then I don't think you got it right. Should we roll it back? Okay, guys, let's start again. Okay, three, two, no break. He was like, oh, he said stabout and then he started doing a bit about it and then was just saying, what is this, man? It's got your day. What the hell, man? Ders, let it roll, man. I thought he was coming at me. You know what? I woke up on the wrong side of the bed, guys. Oh my God. I thought I was about to go. What side of the bed was that? The bottom. Geez. You got kicked out like a damn dog. I woke up under the bed. Are you, you got kicked out the house? Is this a huge development?

Wow. Kicked out the house. We got kicked out the house, hip house. Yeah, why, are you in a new office? What's happening here? Are you in a shack in your backyard? Look, this is brought to you by Selkirk Hats. Okay. Pickleball guy now. I'm into that. Hey, this is interesting. This is actually pretty interesting. What is? All right, let's go off. Of all your friends, we can go round and round. Whose house, if you did get kicked out of your home by your significant other, whose house would you want to, what couch are you surfing

of these, of these broaches right here? Oh, okay. Oh, are you directing this towards me first? Yeah, please. You lead it off. Let's go around. Let's do around Robin. Whose couch? Yeah. Whose couch are you surfing upon? I mean, God, I would love to go down to the beach for a few months. Okay. Yeah. Adam Zekul, does that work for you a few months? Yeah. Come on down, baby.

Yeah, that makes sense, actually. We'll even put you in a spare bedroom. We won't give you the couch. How about that? Okay. Yeah, I like that. How about that? I'll just be out on the beach drinking myself to death crying, Zekul. That'd be tight. I've had friends, Scotty Landis, tried to camp on my beach for a little bit. He was like, I'll just pitch a tent. Really?

And then it was like day one. He was like, that was the worst idea. He just did it one night. And why was it the worst idea? I was like, I was up at like 5.30 in the morning, the fucking sea, like sea lions were so damn loud. Oh, sea lions are a problem out there. Oh, yeah, dude. And they're like also fucking terrifying because they're the size of like a baby hippo. And then you're like out on your dock. And then all of a sudden,

they'll just like fucking flop up on the dock next to you, covered in their own shit. Excuse me, really? Wait, are they? They're covered in their own shit. Oh, they're always covered in their own shit, dude. Really? They're diarrhea boys? Well, what they do, well, not when they first come out of the water, but as soon as they're up there for more than a few minutes on your dock, they shit all over themselves and then roll in it and then ground that down into the crevasses

of the dock. Why? That's gross. That's gross, bro. Hey, man, what part of the game is that? Yeah. What are they doing? Is that a way to attract mates? Why do they smear themselves with their own shit? Probably territorial shit, bro, right? Isn't that... I would ask Kyle. Kyle, why do they do it?

Kyle, why do you do it? Only G.G. Owens over here. I'm feeling Adam just really leaning into don't stay at my house. Yeah. No, you can stay inside. You'll stay inside. Well, that's a problem, though. That's a problem for me. There's sea lions constantly. You said you're going to sleep outside. I don't want that for you. I like living there, but you wouldn't... They poopoo everywhere.

There's going to be a lot of seals with a lot of diarrhea all over. But wouldn't you like to just open the blinds one morning and find me wrestling a sea lion, like super hungover? I mean, yeah, I wouldn't dislike that. No, that would be a fun thing to wake up to. You have to put spikes on everything or else they sank half of my dock. I had to replace half of it. For the seals?

The sea lions. You have to. You have to put spikes on everything. You have to put spikes on the sea lions? Wait, no. Yeah, you have to put spikes. Blades. He puts blades everywhere. Well, it's not metal spikes. They're little plastic spikes. It's just enough that when they jump up there, they're like, ow. It goes in their little poopoo hole.

They bleed. Slides are right up. Yeah, maybe it gets an eye. It gets eyes or both. I don't know. And then they shit everywhere because they're in so much pain. You aim for the eyes. Maybe they're shitting everywhere because there's spikes all over everything and they're like, fuck you guys.

They're fucking going into shock. They're going into shock on your dock. No, dude, you should see. We saw once when like six of them got on this boat and like ruined the boat. It's never been the same. It has like a gangster lean to it now. Talk to me about six sea lions ruining a boat. That's just with the poopoo?

No, because they're so fucking heavy, dude. They're so heavy. They're huge. Well, what do they do? They sink in it? But so how does that ruin a boat? I'm sorry. I'm like. It like half sinks it. And then and then water gets in the engine compartment.

It's a whole fucking thing. Have you ever seen like a jaft or like a sexy one where you're like, okay, this one takes care of themselves? Yeah. It was a six pack. Are these like ones that are just eating food and garbage that's thrown out by humans? So they're plump? No, they're regular ass.

They're just the sea lions. What kind of seal are we talking like a California sea lion? Like a fucking one that kind of like barks, right? They're like a classic California sea lion. You've seen a million of them. Yeah, they're always out there. Blake, you've seen a million of them. I have.

In San Francisco, Kyle and I, come on. We used to go to Pier 39. Yeah, that's right. We did. That's right. That was Kyle. And I know you. I mean, you've seen them in Laguna.

We've been to Laguna Beach together. They're all over the place. We've seen them together. When I act like you don't know what a fucking sea lion is, dude. I'm pissed now. No, yeah. I know what they are. Honestly, I've never seen one, mate.

Dude, when I was out in the water surfing, I fucking had my toes hanging off the board, and I felt something. When was this, uh, 09? Oh, dude, yeah. This was a long time ago. Back in the day. Adam with the chronology burden.

When was this, like, not yesterday? When was this, a time in your life? You fucking idiot. Who was this, a story from the past? Oh, wow, man. Guns are blazing right now. I like this, brother. Dude, I'm on fire.

I can't wait for Adam to be like, dude, I had a teacher. When was this, in fucking middle school, dude? Haha, you dumbass. All right, but go ahead, Kyle. Okay, yeah, so. But go ahead. Yeah, dude, so that wasn't epic slam,

but you may continue. My toes were hanging off the back of the board. You had your toes hanging over? When was this? Board, and I felt something a-knockin', and I turned around, and it was a fucking sea lion. Right there, just like, oh my god. Oh my god.

Hitting my toes with its nose. Oh my god. That's funny. And it was scary as fuck. That's as close as I've ever been, and it was fucking scary. I didn't feel like I needed it. That's as close as I've ever been,

as full contact. Is that touching one? Yeah, and other than that, it's been about six feet away from me. Have any of you ever? Uh, it's close. Yeah, that time I was attacked by a sea lion, that was probably the closest I've ever been.

Well, one time I was in. Have you felt what? Laguna Beach. Inside of a sea lion's mouth, and that's where the buck stops there. When I was in Laguna Beach, when I had first moved to California, we used to always drive down there

because the beaches were so damn nice. Gorgeous. And I fancied myself a photographer at that time, so I was like- Cause what, you had an iPhone? I was like climbing around on my, no, out of Canon, dude. This is like right when I fucking met you, I think.

No, this is dude, this is fucking O7, dude, he's probably talking about O7. Oh my god, no. When is this? Oh yeah, what is this, O2? This is, no, this is O2, O3. This is O3, you bitch. Hey, your math is also bad, Blake.

It was O2 or O3, you bitch, dude. Oh, so it was probably a Blackberry. You probably couldn't even take photos or something. No, it's way before that. Yeah, this is like a fucking Nokia. Yeah, no, it was a Canon. I've said it twice now, it was a Canon. And I-

I'm not listening. Dude, go fucking see the Howardson movie. Wow. I went around the bent, like I climbed over these rocks and you could like go around this little side and I jumped off. When was this, the Stone Age?

Yeah, essentially. And I jumped off a rock and just ate shit on this other rock because it was way slippery. And then that rock moved and it was a sea lion with a bunch of baby sea lions. And I had jumped on it from one rock to another and ate shit.

And then obviously the mother was so mad at me, was like, but aggressive style. For sure. Yeah, protecting, protecting. Just chorg-ing, dude. Just making that chorg noise. They're constantly chorg-ing here. Then I couldn't get back around

because the mother was protecting that side. So I had to jump in the water, swim way the fuck out and back around to the beach. You jumped in the water where it's much faster than you and can fully attack you. I mean, yes, but it was protecting its kids. I figured that was good. What about your camera?

What happened to your camera? And first of all, I'm sorry you fell. I'm sorry you fell. This dude is doing side stroke with the camera. But how about the camera? What happened? You know, I can't remember exactly. I'm assuming I said it somewhere and came back,

or maybe I tried to hold it above my head, but I'm not that strong of a swimmer, so I would have ruined it. Yeah, that's bad. Adam's like, wait a second. When I made up this story, I didn't cover that. That is not true. I think I've told that story on the podcast before.

I don't know. I guess we could fill that in now. I think I've told it. Yeah, it wasn't a camera. I was drawing. Fuck, no, that's worse. I was doing my painting. Painting, yeah.

Painting worse? Dammit. Watercolor on the rocks. I slipped and fell, cracked my head. No. I took a mental picture. Kyle, he took a mental picture is what it was, and he didn't step on a sea lion.

He was in bed napping. I have some of the photos I took that day. Chloe hung them up as if they're good evidence. They're way not good. That's okay. Adam, would you ever get into photography? And then we will circle back to where everyone else would sleep.

But go ahead. Yeah. If they were kicked out of the house. Oh, right. No way. I still want to talk about seals. I can't wait to talk more about sea lions, baby. Sea lions, bitch.

Mm, hot. Seal, actually. Now, seals are sea lions. And I think they're, yeah, they're sea lions. Blake, the fucking bozo. Sea lions are the bigger blubs, right? Sea lions are the ones up in the central coast, right? Like, or those elephant seals, the ones that are like,

fucking, and they got the fucking wall. Yeah. No, what is it? Yeah. Elephant seals are the ones with the really cool noses that look like they have a pile of dookie on their face. Yeah. Those guys are sick.

They look like Muppets. Well, that might be according to Adam. Guys, we haven't even gotten into walruses yet. Oh my gosh. Oh my God. Oh, I know the tuss. Just generally over the podcast years. Yeah.

It's crazy. I mean, for everything we're saying about these California sea lions, you're lucky that's what you're swimming with. Because some of these sea lions are huge and very dangerous. Very much so. Yes, they will bite. Okay. And this message was brought to you by Safety.

On the California coast. So Kyle, where would you stay? Yeah, if you got kicked out the house. Oh, if you're kicked out. If I was kicked out of my house, kicked out. He's like, okay, for a win. This can also be a win. Yeah.

This can be a win. You're booted. You're booted. The wife says, hey, no mo, you gotta go stay somewhere for at least, what do we say, a month? A month. Like a why? Yeah.

Yeah. So hey, there's no, there's no time, you know, because when these things happen, there's no timeframe on it. You just don't know. You got to, you got to surf. All right. I'm just picking one. You got to count surfers as long as you can.

Hey, what happened? Well, Blake's currently staying in my house. So that's, that's true. Well, so you have a chance to. So maybe I'm going to Blake's. I'm going to my house. Well, you'd feel the most at home there. Yeah.

You guys just got booted to the garage. Kyle's in the master. No, I have to, I have to pretend like Blake is at his old house or something. You know what I mean? Or at his new house, I guess. No, no, man. This is the scenario. I still think I'm going down to the beach.

Yeah. I think I'm going to need to clear my head. Really? Yeah. Just to get away. And get out on the water. Yeah. With all the diarrhea seals.

Come on. I'll be friends with them in like two days. I'll be friends with them. It'll be all good. Yeah, true. They'll be like, who's this seal? You're like, actually I'm a human guys. I'll say I am your leader.

Hey, guys, I would say 98% of the time, you're not going to have beef with these sea lions, okay? But it's just that one or two percent that they'll catch you by surprise. Yeah. And Kyle, I do have pickleball courts within a quarter mile of my home, not even. Okay, wait. Is that just going to... And I don't know if we're supposed to do this.

I'm supposed to advocate for these people to come stay at our homes or what? But I'm just letting you know. I know he's got the beach, but... I mean, they're your best friends. Yeah, you can. You know, life's a competition, then you die. Now, also, I think maybe going to Durza's house with the pickleball courts real close by is a good idea.

Okay. Kentucky Grandma! Take your mind off things. I think also I'll get that. But Kyle, you are coming down to Orange County. We've got plenty of factor microwaveable dinners in the fridge for you. That's true. Kyle, I'm coming down today to play.

I'm coming down tomorrow to play. You are coming to Orange County to play pickleball. That's true. You do have a pickleball community, if you will, down near my home. Okay. I mean, that's tempting as well. But in Newport, yep, there's a lot of pickleball in Newport. But here's the other thing.

Durza has a family. Great Hooters, too. And kids, that might be a family. And kids, that might be helpful in my road to recovery, whatever is going on. Whatever got me. Oh, sure, sure, sure. Right. Adam's only married and just so sad and...

Yeah, a sad lifestyle. I don't know. Could that help? Could that help me on my... Sad and can go anywhere at any time. Which one's a better recovery spot for me, I guess, is the question. You know? Right.

Oh, so you're actually going to work on yourself? Well, I got kicked out. I got kicked out. I didn't kick anybody out in this scenario. Yeah, but then you got to be around a loving wife and family and kids. And then it makes you miss your family that much more. It might be helpful. Right, right.

Right. It might be helpful. Don't you kind of want your own space? Because you don't know how the fight broke. Maybe it was your beef that started the fight. And then you're like, hey, you know what? I'm going to go stay somewhere for a little bit. Were you rolling and shit again?

You don't know. Yeah, more often than not. As my shit that starts it, you know what I mean. I start that shit. So, yeah. Really, you're owning up to it. That's really big of you, Kyle, man. Because that wasn't what you were like a couple of years back in like 07.

Yeah, dude, yeah. Back in the day, fucking 06, you maniac. Oh, yeah. Well, that was when things were wacky back then, bro. When you were fucking surfing and just seals were biting your shit. And you were just like, you took no accountability. It was crazy, dude. Right.

Yeah, I think I'm trying to mend when I'm there. And I think Derz is good. I would love to go to each one of your guys' houses for like 10 days each. Oh, yeah. Well, you know Derz probably has the best snacks. The snack game at Derz's house is probably the strongest, I would say. Yeah. If you like raisins.

It's a problem. It's a problem. We got raisins. We got fruit leather. We got it all. The beef jerky in the house is something else. Yeah, dude. The amount of raisins I'm going to eat.

Well, I eat because I'm unhappy. What about you, Blake? Where you staying, man? What are you doing? That's a tough one, man. I feel like you got kicked out. By the way, Adam's like, I go to my other house. You guys don't want to go.

No, that's not the game here. That's not the game. That's not the game. I feel like, Kyle, when you bring up like, oh, I'm going there to, you know, fix myself. Maybe I almost do a round robin where each house I go to, I learn a different lesson from each of my friends. I feel like there's something couch surfing the movie. They delete this from the pod.

We need to pocket this one before fricking. I don't know who steals it. Yeah. Who would steal it? This is good, though. Yeah, couch surfing. I like it. Seth Rhee Rogan.

Thanks, Jason Siegel. Yeah, man. I feel like we could learn a lot. I feel like if I went like 10 days to each of your guys' house, and I am in having a mental crisis, I will find what I need to fix myself. Yes. I think that is. And I think that this is a Richard Linklater movie waiting to happen.

That is why we've worked together so well for well over a decade, almost two decades now. It's because we each add a certain spice to our comedy gumbo. Oh, and after we do this, we got to say our spices. OK, but anyway, go ahead. Curry. Because I know what mine is. I know what mine is. I know what my spice is.

But I think it, Adam, I think it extends beyond comedy. Lowry. I think it extends beyond comedy. That's what we're finding out here, is it's like, sure. Yes, but comedy, Kyle, but comedy's life. Wait, what is, I don't even know what life is beyond comedy, but please. Exactly. Actually, yeah.

Is there something beyond comedy? I don't know. Live, laugh, love. Not for me, said the guy who would drink himself to death on Adam's beat. Like you do have to. I think you that that is a little bit of a cop out. You have to choose. Thank you.

Thank you. Great movie. Go ahead. Great movie. Wait, what? Well, there's something to be said for every place. Well, I love that idea. But like, I, you know, okay.

Yeah, and you had to pick one. Right. This is how everything works. Hey, what's your favorite this? There's something to be said for many things, but then we want you to choose one. Well, I'm just saying like. It's really hard.

I like blue, red and green, but you got to pick one. It's like great example. You know, you go to, you go to Adams, you know, we're out on the boat. We can really find ourselves. We can really be out on the water and talk about anything, dude, or we can do anything with each other and no one would ever know because we're in the middle of the ocean. What?

Why is everyone going to places for healing and I was going to die on the beach drunk? Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm like, okay. All right. Go ahead. This is what I'm saying.

First 10 days, me and Adam bender on the boat. I get it all out of my system. Okay. Now we're talking. And I go to Derzes. He fucking puts me through the camp, gets me shredded, makes me eat raisins for every meal. Okay.

And then I journey, I journey north to Kyle, where I'm around my family and my friends from the past. And I remember where I came from and I come back a complete person. You're painting. There we go. I'm painting. Expressing yourself. You're creating.

Yeah. You're painting. Yep. I'm making little claymation videos with Kyle again. Oh, let's do it in the garage, dude. Let's go. Okay. Yeah, sure.

But I can. So just pick one. And then. Yeah. Probably your house, bro. I won't get on that boat and drink some buzz balls, baby. I think it all comes down to the beach. I really do.

It's like. Oh my God. Blake showing up looking like he's been crying for 40 hours with a ton of buzz balls under his arms. Yeah. We should love it. Hi, I'm David Eagleman. I have a new podcast called Inner Cosmos on iHeart.

I'm a neuroscientist and an author at Stanford University. And I've spent my career exploring the three-pound universe in our heads. On my new podcast, I'm going to explore the relationship between our brains and our experiences by tackling unusual questions so we can better understand our lives and our realities. Like, does time really run in slow motion when you're in a car accident? Or can we create new senses for humans? Or what does dreaming have to do with the rotation of the planet? So join me weekly to uncover how your brain steers your behavior, your perception, and your

reality. Listen to Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last season, millions tuned into the Betrayal podcast to hear a shocking story of deception. I'm Andrea Gunning, and now we're sharing an all-new story of Betrayal. Ashley Lytton was helping her husband set up a business Venmo account when she discovered a terrible secret. I scrolled down and that's when I saw a hidden folder and I opened it.

What the hell did I just see? I was scared that he was coming home. What Ashley discovered that day was a secret so dark she feared for her life. She was like, oh my god, I got to get out of the house. He's going to find out that I've seen this, he's going to come kill me. Listen to season two of Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Between April 1971 and September 1972, six young black girls were snatched off the streets

in Washington, DC. It took four murders before the police finally realized that one person was responsible. I will admit the others when you catch me if you can. Signed freeway fan. This child was laying on the side of the road. It appeared that she was probably either dragged out of the car or thrown out of the car. The person said, I murdered your daughter. The killer believed that he may have been seen by the mother.

My mother's funeral? That guy is, he's out of sync with even the worst people. I thought that they would catch him. I thought it was just a matter of time. Is it possible that the killer is still alive? Listen to freeway phantom on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What was that movie with Matthew McConaughey where he's just like the total king of the beach? Oh yeah, is that what it's called?

What is it? Wait, are you called Surfer Dude, right? I never saw that. Yeah, it's Beach Bum. It's called Beach Bum. It's Harmony Kareen. Beach Bum. I would be Beach Bum.

Who directed that movie? Somebody too legit to quit. Harmony Kareen. Harmony Kareen. It's Kareen, right? That's Kareen, yeah. I don't fucking know. And if you want to see something fun, watch his clips on Letterman from back in the day.

It was always cool. Oh yeah, his clips are so incredible. Oh yeah, they're like the one person who will never get invited back to Letterman. He was good, but Letterman was in on the joke. That's why I always love it. Those are the Crispin Glover clips of Letterman back in the day. Oh yeah. What did he do?

Just the most awkward. He like karate kicked at him. Oh really? I thought he was just like the most awkward dude of all time. There's that too, but I think I'm pretty sure he like karate kicks an interim Letterman's face or something. Right. What?

I think so. Was that just to get some hot press for Willard or what? Why was he doing that? Yeah, he took LSD and tried to kick Letterman. LSD. Wow, dude. So do you think Letterman's in on that joke? Is Letterman in on that joke?

No. If he took LSD and tried to kick him. I think he wanted to be and then fucking Homeboy was like, are you really down, Dave? Hey man. Crispin rules, man. You know, the Crispin Glover is operating on a level that I don't, I don't know who else is doing that.

Right? Well, I think Joaquin tried to operate on that level and then it just. Well, he's a bagel. Right. But Crispin's like, I leave here the same way as I showed up. Yeah. Yes. I'm ordering a number one super size with a sprite this way.

Like this dude is that way everywhere he goes. Strokes make me cool. Right. Joaquin made a choice to jump into Gloverland. Right. Into Crispin's world. Yeah. He was doing a character doing a bit.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't think Letterman was in on the Joaquin thing either. I think, I don't know, but. Letterman is, he's down. He's very down.

I feel like when something's in, he's like, I see what we're doing here. We can, we can play this. Yeah. Now, Letterman is cool. Yeah. You know, he watched, he said he watched the guy got to do it. Right before he retired. He watched what?

Like six months before he retired. He said he, he said he's watched every episode of Warclaw. What? David Letterman? Oh, really? Poor man. That's what he told me right as like, I was being ushered off. And this is, I think this is what I mean that he's always down for the job.

He was like, yeah, totally. Right. Like I did my like three minutes or whatever. And he, he was like, he goes, I love Warclaw because I've seen every episode. Whoa. And then all I wanted to do was talk to him about that. But that's, it was like right when they're like, okay, this way, this way. Wow.

Everybody turned down. Everybody turned down. This message is for David Letterman. Hey, is this new to Letterman? Yeah. Okay. Let me turn down. Let me turn it down.

Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be a quick, quick message, but meet a Letterman real quick. Hey, Dave, did you watch all the apps? Hit me back. All right. Turn on up, turn on up. Turn it up.

Okay. Hey, I hope, hey, Kyle, I hope that was worth it. Was it? I got really nervous when I was talking to Dave, did you? I was. Hey, dude. Yeah. There's a presence.

Yeah. You kind of got a little shaky there. Yeah. It kind of seemed like you bailed on what you're going to say. And then just I kind of went with a question. No, I didn't have anything. And then I got really nervous when I realized I was talking to fucking David Letterman. I got nervous.

For sure he was lying. Now, I do, you know, there's no way he watched every episode. That's a lot. I mean, he's probably seen five. Right. Is that the joke? Is that he's like, you should know that this is funny because there's no way I've watched any episode. Yeah, maybe.

Maybe. I mean, he is advanced. Oh, shit. And watched every episode. Get it? Like, oh, I get it. You haven't seen it at all. I've never seen it.

Yeah, right. No, it seemed like he was down to clown. You could tell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't our showrunner Kevin Etton work at Letterman? Yes. So maybe there was a little in there. Not maybe.

Can I tell you something about David Letterman and Kevin Etton? Yes, you can. They don't know each other. Letterman doesn't know he worked there. And Kevin will attest to that. I think Kevin, you know, did his thing. He was up and out. Yeah, there's no way.

Well, how many fucking writers does David Letterman have over the years? Exactly. Exactly. And how many were better than Kevin? Almost all of them. Yeah, most. There's no way.

You lose. You know. Kevin ended up with us. That's what I'm going to say. Oh, wow. I'd live at Blake's house. And we were a match made in heaven. You'd live at Blake's house.

A match made in Kevin. I'd live at Blake's house. I'd live at Kevin. Which is Kyle's house. So you're going up to my house. Yeah, I want to go back to your crib. I was there yesterday. It's beautiful.

Because I was like, oh, there's a pool. Like, it's kind of close to my house. Like, if I could, if, if close, like, all right, you can come home. I'll be home in like 15 minutes. It wouldn't be like that big of a whoop. Right. Like, if I go up to your house in the bay.

Did you just say it wouldn't be that big of a whoop? Yeah, it wouldn't be much of a whoop. It wouldn't be that big of a whoop. That's good. That's good. A whoop. That's good. If I go all the way up to the bay area

and she's like, all right, you can come home. I'll be like, we'll see you tomorrow. Or like, I have plans tomorrow. I'm trying pickleball. But that gives you so much time to think. Yeah, I'm going frisbee golfing. Adam thinks he's like out of the dog house already. Yeah, that's how it works.

The fucking ego on this guy. Yeah, that's how it works in my house. Yeah. Yeah, bro. Yeah, you're, you're way in the dog house. And then all of a sudden there's not even a dog house. What? We're back.

We're back at it. That's kind of cool. Yeah. Whoa, how do you do it? See, I want to go to Adam's house. Yes, dude. What happened to the dog house? It's destroyed.

It's destroyed until all of a sudden it appears again and you live inside of it. I'm a dude. But what happens to the reason you went in the dog house? It just all is forgiven. All good. Really? Yep.

Okay, that's an approach. Yeah. Back to the start again. Adam, Chloe's on like a 51st state situation. She wakes up every day forgetting. She wakes up every morning and I convince her to stay. That's right. So your, your whole thing is you just wait for your partner

to forget and it doesn't take that long. No, no, she's, you know, like all is forgiven or like I forgive her. Whichever way it goes. And then, and then you just go like, I'm back in. Right. Gosh. That's cool, man. That's being nice.

See, I don't know. It lasts for longer. It lasts for longer in my house sometimes. Yeah, but I picked Blake's house. I picked Blake's. Yeah. That being said, I wanted the pool at Blake's house and Durz does have a pool and the snack game is better at Durz.

It is an extra 20 minutes. So now I'm looking at 40 minutes to get back home. But you know what? It's a nice getaway. It's only 10 degrees hotter. I think you got to come up to the bay. Yeah, man. Come up to the bay for this.

Yeah. Come up to the bay. I got a pickleball court in the backyard now. Okay. I got nice gym. See that knees can't handle pickleball. Like we were over shooting hoops the other day at Atiba's. Yep.

Knees couldn't even handle that. I was sore. I was sore from those three shots I took. Isn't it crazy how none of us missed any shots? God, that's crazy. I know. Yeah. Especially you.

I, that video of you. So the other day we all got together for the first time in like a very long time that we all saw each other at the same time. We all hung out. Yeah. Which was so sick. Right.

Almost on accident. Yeah. Kind of. Kind of. Very last minute. Yeah. I didn't realize that was what was happening. It's organic.

I loved it. Chloe was like, my gosh. She was like, are you drunk when I came home? I didn't drink anything. I was like totally sober. Is it real? Well, being you had some can, you had some can. Didn't you have a little bit of can?

That doesn't count. But I have like, that doesn't count. I have like five of those and I had two. You had seven cans. That doesn't count. No, kids count. Same amounts of THC. That is not true.

I had two. Normally, I have four or five in a night regularly. So I'm sober. Nothing. You drove home backwards. Also on painkillers for my need, but totally sober. I wasn't on painkillers. I'm telling you.

And I came home and we're just keeping you honest. We're just keeping you honest, bud. And she was like, you're giddy. She's like, my god. You're like flying high. And I'm like, yeah, the boys were back in town, baby. Yeah, baby. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it was cool. It was really cool. Hey, I will say that like, because we interact on here now, almost exclusively, saying stuff from the pod to each other, it was very like, I mean, yeah, dude, it was a whopwap. But in person, it's very strange because I'm like, I'm stuck and I cross the streams here.

What's happening? No, it's cool. It is interesting. Like, I find that interesting, dare I say, important. I have found that this podcast has brought us together in ways I never dreamed. But it also prevents us from talking outside of any day other than we're actually on the pod,

because we have to save it for the pod. It's true. It's like, oh, you get into something cool and then save it for the pod. Well, yeah, we don't. I feel like when we see each other now, there's no, we aren't catching up. You're just talking about the thing you're doing.

Yes. You know, maybe some slight like, overarching themes of the catch up. But you're not, you're not going into details because you got to save it for the pod. Over-arching themes of catch up. Isn't that bad? Adam starts to talk about how his testicle hurts

and I say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Save it for the pod. Save it for the pod. Save it for the pod. Testicle no longer hurts, dog. Now it's, now it's hip and groin and back. I think it's better. Don't you kind of hate when you run into somebody

for a long time and you got to be like, so like, what's, how, how's it going with war? You got to like get it. And you just want to like hang in the moment. Yes. That's what it felt like the other day. It felt like we were able to just be like, fuck it all.

Let's just be right here, right now, with each other in the sunset. Atiba, snap the photo. You know what I mean? Friendship. Snap the photo. This is it. It was nice having a photographer for a friend

because he's always like, got to get a photo. And I'm like, do we? And he's like, yes. And then we post it today and everyone loses their mind. And then you have it and you're like, yeah. Dude, that picture was great. That sunset was sick. Like that's a moment.

We got it. And the fact that we were together the night before, the like birthday of alcoholics. Yeah. Completely over my head. Had no idea. Totally coincidental. Forgot about the show almost, actually.

Yeah. Forgot we had that for seven years. Like I sometimes am like, how do I know these guys? It's a cosmic level, man. Alcoholics anonymous. That's cosmic. It's cosmic, dude. It's bigger than us.

That's why we were together. It's cosplay. We met at Comic-Con. We were all cosplays. As the Fantastic Four. And we're like, what the hell? Cosmic. We said shirts off.

Put this on. Oh my God, thing. Kyle was the thing. How was the thing? Adam was the invisible woman. Thank you. I was the human torch and you were Mr. Fantastic. Thank you.

Who's going to be in the Fantastic Four? Who's going to be in that movie? Us? That's a big one. Are they redoing that movie again? Yeah, they're giving it another shot. Really? Rome.

You know what? My guy, Shackman, is directing it. He directed Godzilla and he's killer. I think he's going to do a good job. Okay. Is that Matt Shackman? Yeah, he did a bunch of the sunny stuff, too. Yeah.

Right. That's where I know his name from. His last name is Shack. Shackman. Even cooler. The Shackman. S-H-A-Q, man. Okay.

No. Okay. For sure, Blake. Oh, that sucks. Yeah, that sucks. Shackman. Oh man, I'm dissing on him. Dissing on his name.

What's Shack? Oh, I just wish it was Shackman. I'm sure he thinks the same thing. I bet he's like, damn, I wish I was Shackman. No, I don't know. He's a pretty straightforward guy. Pretty straight lady. Yeah, I don't know him.

I don't know him. Can't comment. If you said that to him, you go, yeah, I don't know. I think it's fine how it is. Anyway, can you hit your mark on the next one? Thank you. Yeah.

Critical focus, bud. Again, Blake is never hitting his marks in this area. Again, you're not human torch. You didn't get cast at that. When someone says hit your mark, he's like, should we get a stunt guy in here for that? Okay, Blake, when I say hit your mark, that is not like a fight scene.

It's a thing on the ground, not a guy. And you're supposed to land on your mark, I guess I should say. I really like the version where Blake's not even cast as a human torch. Yeah, he's just there. Right. You're crafty.

Smashing crafty. Yeah. What are you doing, bro? The main actors are not really keen on you always just bringing out buzz balls for this. It's just nothing but buzz balls and hard-boiled eggs. Jackman? I'm going to Kobe, Jackman.

Come on. You're human torch, not human garbage. And just, I don't know, zero in on that. Okay. Hey, man. Thank you. Sorry about it. Oh, Blake.

I don't even know what, who are the characters in Fantastic Four? I don't really know. Okay, okay. So we got the thing. The thing. Ben Graham. Human torch.

Human torch. Mr. Fantastic. Well, the thing was Michael Chiklis back in the day, right? Which is perfect. Casting, right? That's who I would like to be. Perfect. Yeah.

If I'm cast in Fantastic Four, I think I would like to be the thing. Oh, you're the thing. I thought I was going to be the thing. Maybe throw my name in the habit, throw my name in the casting hat, you know? Adam is built for the thing. Let's keep going.

We'll keep going. I'm down here. I don't know where I fit in. Yeah, you should be stretch arm strong or something. Mr. Fantastic. I think that's Durr's. Well, I think that's kind of me. That's Durr's.

And I think Blake is the fucking human torch. Thank you. What's his name? Is his name Johnny Blaze? Yeah. It is. Yeah. Yeah.

You know that leaves you, Kyle. And so that leaves you as you could be like the key grip. The invisible woman. The invisible woman. OK. That's great. That's a great part. I'll play that.

Which, by the way, it's got to be a medicine. In a group of superheroes, the woman is invisible, right? She's not getting treated the same. Go off, King. Preach. Go off. Go off. Go off.

It's proof, man. Yes, King. When was it made? I just see things a little bit more clearly these days. When was it first made? It was 60s, right? 50s, 60s. Oh, what?

Were you in fucking middle school? Yeah. Back when you had your Razor phone, you bitch, and you were surfing. Oh, my God. Guys. Oh, man. Dude, I didn't know we were going to go this hard.

I just came out of the gate with a little thunder, a little piss and vinegar in me, but this isn't a take down Kyle day, you know? It's going to end up a damn t-shirt now. I'm sorry, Kyle. It's all right. I'll just turn invisible. I don't give a fuck.

This bit's getting its own merch. I don't give a fuck. I'm invisible, bro. Yeah, this is why he's the invisible woman, because he just wishes he could disappear sometimes and not get fucking out. Just destroyed by his homie. No, it's good.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's good. I'm fucking invisible. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm the invisible woman. That's what's up. Did we ever talk about Jeff Fahey on here? We did, right?

We must have. We had to have. Did you just say, whoa, whoa, whoa? Yeah, I think I did a, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, we will go ahead and speak on Jeff Fahey. What was his, he was the lawn mower man, right? Is that what he was? The lawn mower man, yeah.

He's an actor who was in, I believe, Silverado, and he was the lawn mower man. Which is a horror movie, an 80s horror movie. Right. Where like a doofus gets plugged into a computer and becomes a super genius. Yeah, that movie rocks. And he's got the hottest eyes.

Top 10 hottest eyes in Hollywood history without any exaggeration. Such hot eyes, yes. Oh, yeah, man. Real hot eyes. And he did a guest little star on Workaholics. The coolest. As the homeless guy in the episode title.

Man up. Man up. Man up. Man up. Where I pick a raccoon, come at me. This is the way. Yeah, it turned out to be his pet. You've killed a lot of animals in your acting career.

It's pretty cool. Yeah. It's funny. Well, it's because he can't. He's not allowed to do it in real life. So he gets these urges. Yeah, I've never done it in real life. These serial killer urges that we all know Ders has.

He's able to get out through. Cruelty to animals. Through his acting. It was more of that and for sure less of right what you know. It's definitely not that. Yeah, man. Get out. It's your art, bro.

Get it out. Express yourself. That's good. But between takes and stuff, this dude was explaining his life. And it turns out he's the most interesting man in the world straight out of the Doseki's commercials. Yes. Right.

Get on Wikipedia and check his page. It's crazy. Well, he was one of like, I mean, I'm going to get the number wrong, but it was like an insane amount of brothers and sisters. It was like 11 kids. I think it was 11 or 13 kids. Yeah, it was a crazy amount of Baker's dozen worth of siblings. And so he lived in like New York state and was like, I need to make money.

So he moves to Alaska and is a crab fisherman. Like 16 or 17. Yes. Like he was like a kid and he moves there. He's a crab fisherman for a few years, made enough money, moves back to New York, meets a girl. She's a professional ballet dancer. He gets into ballet.

Yeah, I'm going to do that. Gets so good so quick. He becomes a professional ballet dancer. He's the first male ballet dancer of like the New York Ballet Conservatory or whatever the, whatever the premier thing is. He's the first dude. What? I didn't know this.

Oh yeah, dude. We had a whole, we were growing down in between takes and it was incredible. He also had some like, like weird car. They're like, oh, cool car. And he goes, Clint Eastwood gave me that. And we're like, what? Yes, Clint. Yeah, I used to race cars with Clint and Paul Newman.

And you're like, yeah, no, Wapwap for sure. Naked grandma. Yeah. And then he was like, I'm going to lease it. I know what that, like how cool to have like cool old Hollywood stories. Like we. Unreal. Our stories aren't that dope.

Well, no, they're not. We got to get older for them to be like older, you know. Yeah. And it'll be like, I spent a New Year's Eve with Donald Faison from Scrubs once. Right, right, right. Which? Pretty tight. It's not even a knock on top.

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Oh, for Fahy? Yeah, for Fahy. Then he like gets from ballet, gets into acting, and I think he's studying under like Stella Adler or one of those like OG New York acting teachers. Gets his first gig, whatever that may be. Tied commercial. Takes that. Tied commercial.

Tied pod. Takes that money. And this is during the like when Russia was like shitting on Afghanistan back in the day. Oh boy, Russia always starting somewhere. Always causing trouble. In the 80s, whenever Rambo 3 was going down, he goes over and builds a school in Afghanistan and starts living there. Yeah, I remember that part.

And like kind of doing human rights work there. And is going back and forth from Hollywood to Afghanistan, making money, doing movies, and then going there. Meets this like really charismatic guy with like a cool beard. And he's like kind of young and they become friends. And his name is Osama Bin Laden. Wait a minute. Yeah, kind of bro.

Wait a minute. With this guy, remember this part. Call them bro, Osama. Yeah. And then he goes, he goes, what, you need guns? I can talk to my government and get you some guns and some weapons. I didn't know about this. Clint Eastwood sends Osama Bin Laden guns.

I didn't know about this. He's like, do you need to get your message out? I got cameras on lock. I got Hollywood cameras that aren't being used. I could get a whole crew out here and we could do a PSA for how we dope you and your sick organization. The Taliban? Okay, cool name.

Okay. Rolls off the towel. This is interesting. I like that. Yeah, this is interesting. All right. But then we're in the car doing the whoa, whoa, whoa, which is what Adam was quoting from that episode.

Talking about Jamie Foxx and stuff. Talking about it. And his cell phone starts going off and I got a mosquito in here. And he starts going there. You're a wild shit. I thought you were doing sick space work to find your phone. You're like, no, no, no. My phone starts going off.

His phone goes off on like the bench between us and it just says Clooney. And I'm looking down and I'm like, you guys know he was pranking the fuck out of you this whole time. That wasn't Clooney. No, it's all Googleable. So he's like, yeah, we're getting something. Hey, Blake, you know what's cool is you were right next to us and you forgot all of this. You also were talking with him.

He was going to speak to Congress with Clooney about some like clean water or some shit. And I was like, yeah, no doubt for sure. And like the dude was just, you got to Google this guy. Unfucking believable. I don't know. I think that guy fucking kicked it with Faizal, man. Scrubs rocks, dude.

Yeah. Scrubs does rule. You can hang out with both. Yeah, you could do both. He and Faizal. But you would know him from, he's in both Planet Terror and the Tarantino death proof. Oh, yeah, right. He's in both of them.

Kills it. When Faizal held up the raccoon, that was just the stuffed raccoon and cried over its death. Yeah. Or its injury. And it goes full on, dude. That was the best performance I had seen in our show, for sure. That was it. Yeah, in our show.

Outside of us, for sure. Outside of us. No, no. Yeah, that was fantastic. Well, what was so cool about hiring like dramatic actors to do these like insane comedic roles is comedians, a lot of times will try to play the comedy of it, which is guilty. Which a lot of times you want, you know, you're like, of course you're a funnier, but every once in a while would like something like that.

Acting with you, by the way. Like when you bump a hole. It's way, way funnier to just keep. Keep it real. Just go fucking real. Absolutely as real as you possibly can. Yes. And I remember I was worried because we couldn't have, they told us that we could hold the raccoon.

And then like on that day, the actual raccoon. The actual raccoon. So they said that it was going to work. And then we just always have the like craziest animal wrangler people or are they all like that? Because every time I feel like. I think we had the pickings. Yeah. Yeah.

Tight when you bump a hole. Any time that we had an animal, it was always like, oh, don't worry. You'll be able to do everything. And then they're like, you absolutely can't touch the animal. Don't even look at the animal. And you're like, but look, like I'm not going to say they're all crazy. But yeah, yeah. Don't say that one was a different situation.

I'm not going to say they're all crazy. My eyes are going to say everything. I'm not going to say they're all crazy. To be fully honest, I don't think that those handlers had read the pages when they said they would do that job and they're like in the morning and they're like this guy kicks them. That's not going to happen. And so they just say yes to the money. So we weren't asking you to actually kick a real raccoon.

It was a conversation. It was a conversation. No, it didn't. I know I explained all of that to them. That's Derzis pitch. I explained all that to them and then they were like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And then so we got stuck with like people that did not want to let their animal do the

fucking job that they said they were going to do. Yeah. And we had a stuffed animal. These people, they just say yes. You go, do you guys have this? They go, yes. They spend the whole night out in the wild looking for the thing you asked them to bring in. Cage it.

Shake the shit out of it. Feed it. Drugs. And they break it down like that dude whose dick got cut off in Game of Thrones. Whoa. And then and then they own the episode. And then they say, yeah, now if you want this fucking snack, you get this. You let them kick you right now.

Again. The only episode Derz watches. And he watches it over and over and over again. It's just on on a TV monitor in each of my house. That's just what's playing in your kitchen. So you always kind of catch it when you're coming in to to snag some sunny D. Well, it's more for my kids to see. Yeah.

Very shaggy. Yeah. You know how to handle a bully at school? Just burn it into their minds. Burn it in here. Just kidding. I know what you're watching. Keep watching.

Keep watching. Have you guys had to deal with school bullies yet? Are they at that age? Where you're like bullies at school or anything like that? Well, I'm always like of the mind where you do it first. Yeah. Yeah. Smart.

I knew that about you. Don't get bullied because then you're like. Get in front of it. Yeah. That's smart. That's really cool. That's smart for your family. I see that.

Yeah. If somebody looks at you funny. So we think they might punch you or whatever, maybe in the future. Give them a little shove. Yeah. Just push them. That's when you say you're lucky the teacher strapped. You say things like that.

You know? Whoa. Where and why and stuff. Right. Because we're, as we've talked about this off-pod about how we want teachers all to have guns. Yeah, dude. That's how you handle it. Yeah.

And when you're seven years old now in school. Yeah. It's a different world. It's a different world. Whoa. It's a different world. Although they, my kid came home and he was like, yeah, the way he worded, I can't remember what they call it.

But he's like, we had a like extreme lockdown at school today. Jesus. There's some word for it. I go, oh cool. What a world. I love it. Oh cool. Yeah.

That shit's nuts. Dude, we had an X games lockdown. Cause there's like a loose lockdown and then like a hard lockdown or something like that. And he goes, yeah, we had a hard lockdown at school. A tubular lockdown. They try to make it fun for the kids. Yeah. Right.

Right. Right. We had a teletubby lockdown. We had a hide and go seek and not die lockdown. Yes. Hide and don't seek. Really, really sad. Hide and don't speak.

Yeah. That's very sad. Hide and don't speak. You want to play hide and don't speak? Just got real quiet in here. But yeah. Bullying? No.

This is tough. This is tough to move around for me. This is tough to move around when we got here. No, no bullying yet. I feel like I was dealing with a lot of bullies at about that age. Like nine, nine, 10. I think that was prime bully age. Yeah.

You were in a wheelchair. No, I was broke. I was in a wheelchair 11, 12. Okay. And into 13. Yeah. What the hell, man? Get your dates right.

This isn't 07, dude. No, my chronological order. When were you in? What is this when you were in fucking middle school? Oh, 10. Oh, I did get, I did get. Have I told this story to you guys? Have I told this story where I got bullied in fifth grade

at an ice cream truck? Some, did you guys know about this? Dude. I'm sorry. Is this a one-off? Being, we can agree that being bullied is not a one-off, right? I just remember remembering this. No, dude, a little bully at my school who was the bully was like,

I was buying like fucking ice cream after school with some money and he came up with a little pocket knife and put it in my belly, dude, and was like, get me a fun dip. Like, get me a fucking fun dip. Yeah, I remember. I actually remembered. He was my friend. Yeah.

I didn't know what was going on. I'm so surprised Kyle wasn't just like, cut me. You want to fucking go? Cut me, bro. Kyle cuts himself. I'll bleed out for a fun dip. This was like, like I'm getting good grades.

Yeah. This is before cigarettes, Kyle. Getting great grades. Dude, great grades. In fourth grade. 4.0. You were shining, dude. I was crushing everything.

He was drawing a lot. He was like the best artist in the class. Let's post a picture of Kyle at that time with his little glasses. Yeah, glasses. Big glasses. Cool fucking like Sean from Boy Meets World Haircut. Yeah, dude. I might have tried to rob you for a fun dip too, man.

You look like a mark. I was. And I got a fucking knife point in the belly, dude, for a fun dip. Yeah, that was crazy. That was like a really... But I think when kids are that young pulling knives, they're definitely... Their home life is just an absolute disaster.

And they're just imitating the... He was really saying, Kyle, will you be my friend? Yeah, he was saying I want love. He said fun dip, but really he's like, I want my father to love me. I wish I would have known that. Yeah, but also kids, if you're listening to this,

maybe try to get away from the guy from... Is this a message directly to them, Adam? Should we turn it down? Yeah, get away from the guy with the knife. I wouldn't say just try to immediately befriend him if he has a knife on you. Like just run the opposite direction, I would say. Yeah, let it cool down.

Because kids are also... Some kids aren't looking for love. They're looking to murder a fellow classmate because they're psychopaths. Well, I thought... But deeper than that, it's the love. They're looking for love. Yeah, everybody just wants love.

Yeah, they are. They're looking for the love. It's all about the love. And also some are looking to stab their classmates, though. Well, no, this dude wasn't looking to stab me. Adam, you're wrong just even from my story because he didn't want to stab me. The dude wanted fundip because I gave him...

I got a couple of fundips for him and he took the knife away. So he just needed that. So it was an exchange. Is that bullying or is that just like... Robbery. Yeah, he's a stick-up kid. I was held up. I was held up.

Yeah, that's not a burglary. That's not bullying. What kind of is, isn't it? Bullying is like a constant thing. That happened to me twice in my youth. I had a knife pulled on me and a kid wanted to take my bike and I grabbed my bike and... How is that not bullying?

Bullying is like a constant demeaning, like picking on. Yeah, where they're always picking on you forever. But there are levels. So what's the... First weeks and weeks and weeks. It goes from middle school into early adulthood. Kyle, you got punked. That's not bullying, all right?

Yeah, dude. You were a mark on me. I guess I'm just like, where are the lines? So if it becomes like a criminal violation, it's not bullying. No, no, no, it can still be bullying. Well, if you were right now, where you're out and about, someone sticks a knife in your belly and they go, give me $25. Hold on, I'm at a school.

I'm at a school, though. Okay, let's say you're at school. Because we're talking about school bullying. And I'm 10 years old. Okay, but you wouldn't call it a bully. You could say someone's bullying you. Sometimes I feel we pile on each other on the podcast and we are bullying each other.

Shut up, bitch. Bullying. But that's different than if I were to stick a knife in your belly and say, give me something. And then you have to hand it over, thinking that I'm going to stab you if I don't hand it over. That's called... Terrible.

Robbery. Bullying. Robbery. Websters says that's robbery. Okay. Bullying is like teasing. Constant oppressive. Yeah, it's when it becomes violent, it's no longer bullying.

Well, no. No, it can still be bullying. If you got robbed by that guy every week like that, that's bullying. You are so dumb. It's a real sliding scale. Hey, Kyle, this is bullying. You are so dumb. Shut up, bitch.

Yeah, I get all that shit. I guess so when it becomes violent or criminal, it's no longer bullying because it's not sitting in the... It can still be bull... That's still bullying if it's consistently happening. Oh, okay, it's not the one off. It's the one off that makes it not bullying. Yeah, the one off is that you just got robbed.

I'm just looking for that, bro. Well, and it's the fact that he wanted something. He wanted something and he used violence to get it. He wanted love. Like, that's theft. If you're walking down the hallway and he just hits you with a book, he's being a fuck of bully, you know? Just because you're a bitch.

That's bullying because he's not getting anything out of it. Right. Is that what happened to you, pre-wielter? Yeah, he's going to smack with books. My bully was in fourth grade, he had failed a grade and he said... Bullshit! He comes up to me one day and he goes, I heard what you did.

We're not friends anymore. And I'm like, what did I do? And then all of my friends in fourth grade turned on me and were like, he said that we can't hang out, so we can't hang out. And then I no longer had any friends. So that was my bully. And then it turns out I flipped the script and maybe I was a bully to him because I did kick him down a staircase.

Oh, we've heard that part. Yeah, that's how it was. Yeah, that's how it was. I think we've established that's just assault and battery. That's a one-off. Yeah, I assaulted him because I was so angry at being bullied constantly. So the way to beat a bully is to do a one-off really big hyper-violent. And it happened a few times.

I also punched him in the face, playing basketball. I also hit him in the book with a book in class. You hit him in the book? Hit him with a book. With like a big one. I took a book out of my backpack and hit him. Wait, I like how Adam used that as an example about bullying before like two minutes ago. He's like, it's when you hit somebody with a book all the time.

Yeah, no. And then I said, I was being bullied. So I go, no, if anything, I'm the bully. I'm not the kid that gets bullied. That being said, we both were bullying each other. Yeah, there's. Did you guys ever end up kissing? He also hit me before, except, you know, I just took to the next level.

I remember a kid who like didn't have any friends. I don't know if he was new or something or whatever, but like, I don't know if he was bullying me, but he was always kind of talking shit and like being annoying to me, like kind of constantly. And I could even sense then that I was like, this dude's not a dick. He just really wants your attention. Yeah, you love him. But I still think one day I like fucking hit him in the face or something.

Really? Because you were pushed to your edge. Because it just got to a point where I was like, I don't want to be your friend. Dude, you have to. I kind of don't like your vibe. This is not the way to approach it. Like, if I'm friends with you, like, what is this friendship going to be like? Well, you've punched me before and I think it was because I was annoying you.

So, you know, and then I got. Adam was punched by Anders. Yes. When did I punch you? You punched me. It was right in the chest and I lost my breath for a minute. It was when we were doing the sketch comedy show on Hollywood and Highlands. Comedy cocktail?

Comedy cocktail. Like way back in the day. And we were. Behind stage or in the scene? It was we were, you know how we'd get there early and like run the scene on the stage before anything happened before they allowed people in? And I kept like flicking you with a candy necklace or doing something annoying. Dude, I'm going to hit you if you don't stop.

And then I did it again. And then you fucking will pass me. Got like super whatever. I'll know what you're like. You were like, hit your mark. You were just. I'll hit your mark. No, I did something annoying for sure.

And then you like stop or I'm going to punch you. You definitely, Adam does go there. Adam goes there. Even when you give him like fair warning, it's like he's going to walk there. Yeah, he wants to know. And then it's done. But you want to know exactly where your line is. I'm not going to do it again.

And also I felt that punch, dude. Pretty good punch. I'll say. All right. Okay, cool. Right in the solar. Right in the solar plugs. Right in there.

Yeah. All right. Well, so wait, were you bullying me? I might have been. Yeah. Did I stand up to my bully and then we're friends now? Yeah, I think so. I think so.

I love that story. Comedy cocktail. Wow. That was a good one. What was that when we were fucking 2003? What was that, 2005? Yeah, probably. Yeah.

Holy, what are you doing, man? We were trying really hard. I was ready to like take back the punch, but now it seems kind of warranted. Like it seems like, yeah. Yeah. No, it was warranted. I remember like as soon as I after like getting over the shock of like not being able to breathe for a minute, I was like, yeah, I earned that.

That was fine. Right. That's big of you. Yeah. And that shows me that you grew from that punch. So that's. Yeah, I grew three sizes that day. And didn't I say like right after I was like, take my wife's name out of your mouth?

No, I don't think so. I don't, you weren't married yet. So no. I wouldn't make any sense. You saw into the future. Take the name of this scene out of your mouth. Oh, we take the world's tallest woman out of your mouth. Wow, dude.

Would you like to do any takebacks, apologies, any epic giveaways? Anything sick? I want to say sorry. I crossed the line and got physical after warning you what sounds like several times. Yeah. Hey, it's apology accepted. All good. And feel free to keep it up.

I was fine with it. It was fine. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. Not the face, but like, you know, you can. Yeah, for sure. Not the face.

Yeah. That's cool. You punched him. And it's not like Kyle who like attacked you because did not. He really didn't like you in a moment. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah.

Definitely different. Well, that's anger. That's rage issues, man. But I would like to give a compliment to Adam for having a beach house, dude. If you're having a beach house. Oh, yeah. Like, well done, man. You know, it's a hot commodity.

We're all looking to get in there. We're all going to stay there. Thanks, man. We're all looking to... So, you know, well done. Way to hold it down down there. You know, what happened is I bought it right before the super spike, the COVID super spike of beach front property.

Yeah. You know, so I was able to luck out and get one. Is that sounds like a coincidence to me? You've been traveling to Wuhan at all? Yeah. I am the COVID bat. Yes, sir. Wow.

Okay. I'm the human lamb. Adam, Wuhan divine. Wow. I'll show you a wet market. Okay. Also, you saw some exotic meats. Okay.

I would like to thank TI nation as a whole. I've been running into random people. I think I told you guys this the other day that a neighbor of mine pulled up in a super dope car, like a super sick Porsche, and he rolled down the window. I've never talked with this man before. And he just goes, TI nation. And then fucking squealed away.

That shit's in front of my house. It was sick. Crashed into a car. He screamed. He just went like this. It was so dope. I was like, what a cool thing to say to your neighbor and then not follow up with I listen to the podcast.

It's so funny. Just scream it at me and then peel out and the sick teal Porsche. He's probably nervous. He probably got nervous when he was talking to you. Like when I got nervous talking to Letterman. You know? Oh, yeah. Probably.

Oh, man. I had to get in. I get that. I get where he's at. Adam, you just reminded me we touched on this either in person or on the pod and never circled back to the Corvette conversation. Hey, well, let's save it for the next pod because I do want to get into, yeah, we got to save it.

We'll save it for the next one. Wow. We got a hot pod next week. Dude, a hot pod next week. Hot rod, hot pod. It's a hot rod, hot pod. And that's a no other episode of This Is More Important. Hi, I'm David Eagleman.

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