This Is Important - Ep 249: He’s Zyn Trouble

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an iHeart podcast. Welcome to This Is Important, a production of iHeart Radio, the show where we only talk about what's the most important bottom line, critical thing happening on this planet. Today on This Is Important. I used to just look at atlases. He'll bite me, he'll like grab my nuts, he might try to eat my asshole. Like he's a lunatic.
Starting point is 00:00:32 The more people listen, the more they're like, unfollow. You guys are idiots. And I go, alright, well. Buckle up. Yeah! Perfect. I love it. I love you guys. I love it. Buckle up. Yeah! Perfect! I want it all. I love it.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I want it all. House is expensive. What is that from? I want to say it is Warrangy. I want to say it's the Warrangy I want it all. Follow up to the Regulator album. If I'm incorrect. I want it all. Follow up. All. To the Regulator album. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:01:05 If I'm incorrect. I don't think you're right. I think it's more like, it's like Silk the Shocker or some shit. I want it all. No, no, no, no, no, no. That doesn't sound like Warren G. I really think it's Warren G. It doesn't sound like a Warren G song to me.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I want it all. It might be Ski-Lo. It might be Ski- it might be Sceelo dude I don't know how that it's so weird when a song just will like it's cool you know what I mean it'll just like you know how a song was gag you know it'll just pour out of you and you don't even know where these lyrics are coming from oh I said it said we were finishing up with Anna she's telling us about all the sponsors
Starting point is 00:01:50 and yada yada and then I'm like hey man I want it all brand new cars, diamond rings, gold chains, the champagne shit every damn thing. And you know what in a matter of fact it is definitely an all. What's up, Nick? Roy's and Nick. Yeah, I want it all. So I got to wake up and. And thanks to you, I got plaques on the floor. So you know how to pay. We're wrapping Mac 10 or that
Starting point is 00:02:16 was a Mac 10 verse. Adam was doing that right. Well, look, it's Daz Dillinger. It's Warren G. It's corrupt. And I do believe that was the voice of Mac 10. That sounded like Mac 10 to me. Okay, all right. That's a whole West Coast family.
Starting point is 00:02:31 By the way, what a way to start a song, huh? Yeah, I'm sorry, and I skipped ahead, and that's not a new board drop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is not a new board drop by any chance. God, I wish it was. I think that would be a problem. I'm not supportive, but that is a hell of a way
Starting point is 00:02:50 to introduce a song. That is. That's not our... That was a banger, dude. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm glad I skipped ahead. When Twitter came out, I remember being like, can you retweet a tweet that has the N word in it?
Starting point is 00:03:06 If you're a white person. Oh, look at you. Oh. I think you could do whatever you want. Whether the repercussions might come out. Thank you Adam. Thank you Adam. I think you can.
Starting point is 00:03:16 But should you? Yeah, okay. Should you need that? That is the question. Should you? I forgot Adam's the bad boy of race relations. You can. He's like, you do what you want, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Well, you can. I'm just saying it might, you know, that might blow back on you. That might not be a good thing. So I guess that's what I'm getting after. OK. OK, well, be specific. How much flak would you have gotten?
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yeah, blow back after, blow back after. How much blow back would you have gotten? I don't know. I remember asking our founding father, Walt Newman, who discovered us, plucked us from obscurity and I go can we do this and he's Like yeah, what and I go all right green line and he was like are you asking me because I'm black and you're like what? No, yes. No blowback Swing what was that for? I wonder I wonder if our black friends are annoyed when you ask them very specific questions only because they're black. I wonder if they're like, alright.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah, as if they have to be the spokesperson. Like the voice of their entire race. I bet it does. It's a little annoying for them. But you know what? I love explaining white people. It's so easy. Oh yeah, it happens to me about like Czechoslovakian. I get approached about like Czechoslovakian culture. It's so easy. Oh yeah, it happens to me about like Czechoslovakian. I get approached about like Czechoslovakian culture. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Why? Because you are not Czechoslovakian at all? Sweetheart, I am. My roots are in Czechoslovakian. You know that. Is that where that fucking Krobe Magnum jaw came from? Czechoslovakian? Absolutely. Are you kidding me. You kidding me? You kidding me, brother?
Starting point is 00:04:46 Where do you think this is? What do you think this jaw is? If not Czechoslovakia. I think that is caveman. Yeah, that's right. Now that you said that, and I put it together with the chin, and it all makes sense.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Now I'm saying the checklist. Chin check, baby. You better check yourself. I would argue that it is chin, but it's also just a lot of jaw. Like it's not like you have a chin that is like a... Yeah, it's not one of these. Wait, what's the difference between chin and jaw? Jaw's all the way up, right?
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yeah. What do you think the difference between a chin and a jaw is, Blake? Okay, so you're saying like a chin is like Jay Leno how everything forms right at the peak. Exactly. Chin. And you're saying that I have, I go all the way up. The jaw.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah, I think you have like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you want to use technical terms, all the way up is a great way to explain your jaw. Which I never, thank you. I'm all the way up. I'm all the way up. I'm all the way up. Yeah, I've got a I've got a Czechoslovakian jaw, not so much a chin. What kind of chin do you think I have?
Starting point is 00:05:52 That's probably Irish chin right there. If I got my 23 and me. Because look, look, I'm kind of hyped. I've got like, mm, gross. Zero gray in the beard. Must be nice. A little bit. I feel like when I went to Zach's birthday, Pizza's birthday, his 40th, he was like, dude, you have no...
Starting point is 00:06:14 My great friend Zachary Leonardo, he goes by, I wish I was Pizza on Instagram. Give him a follow. He's a great guy. He is such a great guy. I just love Zach. I just love him. But he like looked at me, he's like, you don't have any gray in your beard. And then at his birthday he said that. And then I went home and the next day... He was black-eyed drunk.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yes, I started to see it. I feel like he cursed me. I'm not even going to jump on that one. I feel like he put it into my skin. Yeah, I doubt it. I think you're just the right age to start to turn gray. So you didn't have one that night and the next morning you did? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I doubt it. I think you're just the right age to start turning gray So you didn't have one that night and the next morning you did? Yeah, he did he gave it to me. Mm-hmm Fucking disaster my guy Adam. What's happening in your world any?
Starting point is 00:06:56 Like a basketball show or I did I know I went to um, I did a fun thing in my neighborhood the other night It was so sick. It was right down the street at that pizza place down the street, Cruisers, right? And where Zach's birthday was. What the hell? What? Yeah!
Starting point is 00:07:14 Where Zach's birthday was in the parking lot. They did a throwback like 90s, early 2000s festival that it was all, what do you call them? Bands that, throwback bands. Yes. But. Cover bands? Cover bands, cover bands.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Yes. Yes. Or no, you know what, they call them something besides cover bands. Tribute. Tribute bands. Yes, exactly. So there was Blink one more time.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Cause it's a tribute. And they sang all Blink 182. and then No Duh was No Doubt. That's a great name. That's a great name. I know exactly what you are. You didn't like Blink one more time? If you said that to me, I would not associate that with Blink 182. Blink one more time? Yeah, I guess. But No Duh is spot on. And they were fantastic. And the bassist or guitarist maybe? I think guitarist looked exactly like Isaac.
Starting point is 00:08:09 It was very fun. Thank you God! Isaac showed up. It was great. He was pounding beers like he had never drank before. Oh my God. Ponga getting radical. It was good to see.
Starting point is 00:08:20 He was chasing some demons. And then, yeah, and then there was a whole other, the emo kids, and they came out and played a lot of, you know, early 2000s deep cuts. Just general emo music. Is emo kids, is that a play on get up kids, or what? I don't know what it was. I think it's, they're, they sang a lot of like,
Starting point is 00:08:42 I'm just a kid, but then they'd do a funny thing where they'd go, I'm actually 38. I'm nothing, I'm lonely, I'm just a kid. I'm 34. Yes, points! And so it was actually better because they didn't only have to sing Blink-182 because the Blink-182 guys, they were good at it. They're hand-cut. But it's not Blink-182. Sure know and what is the I'm just a kid song. It's a simple plan Oh nice, it's a song yeah, feel free to Bless that okay. Well. Did you have a did you have a good time? That's all I want yeah
Starting point is 00:09:17 Well, I had a great time too. Yeah, the mother-in-law was watching the kid me and Chloe got to go out the yeah the community mother-in-law Yeah, the mother-in-law and well you only want yeah, you're well. Yeah, yeah Let's you get you know I like when I watch Blake learn something in real time I see it just kind of wash over him like he absorbs it and goes and now I know more hey shut up, man I'm listening to this song. I'll skip ahead okay? When you're spending every day on your own and here it goes I'm just a kid and life is a nightmare Dang dude. They didn't start that song like Warren G did. I'm just a kid life is a nightmare?
Starting point is 00:10:01 What? Come on guys. What the hell? these suburban whites don't know how to be good. These suburban whites, everything was so hard. When in fact you look back, and as a suburban white, I had it pretty fucking easy. Why was I screaming that song at the top of my lungs? You're teasing me at school. Well I don't know man.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Mom you bought me a spiral bound notebook. I need loose leaf. Mom they're teasing. Oh Life is a nightmare You applied to be the era crombie fucking guy in the doorway, and they said no no no no I knew I knew not to Go near that I knew I wasn't gonna be a classic Yeah, we got it. We got what did you call it? A crombie? I don't think I've ever said the word allowed. Did you ever wear, I could see Dyrs wearing Abercrombie. Did you ever wear Abercrombie, Blake?
Starting point is 00:10:52 I did not, no. I was never... No, I don't think I did. IS IT REAL? I think I might have had like a polo at some point. Do you want to ask me? Well I know that you would have been the guy, but I think it was a little after your time. That was my pitch. Abercrombie landed full force when I was in high school and took over.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Oh, yeah. But I was not a fan and here's why. Okay, and let's unpack this. Wait, we'll be right back. Shorts were too long and I didn't like cargo shorts. Didn't like cargo shorts. Yeah. Knuckin' grandma! Fought it for many, many years.
Starting point is 00:11:32 I don't think I bought a pair of cargo shorts until I moved to LA maybe. I gave up, I couldn't find short shorts anywhere. I just told my son this story the other day. Wait, you wanted shorts, extra shorts. I just wanted short shorts. story the other day. Wait, you're- You wanted shorts extra short. I just wanted short shorts. They were getting longer and longer and I was like, what the fuck is going on here?
Starting point is 00:11:50 Who cares? So you didn't rock like Dickies? Like Dickie shorts? Like what were you? No. Because you could definitely get shorts that didn't have cargo pockets if you like went straight like Dickies. Yeah, but Dickies are the longest shorts possible.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Dickies are the longest shorts available. Your Dickies are the longest shorts available. So you wanted short shorts, no pockets. I wanted no cargo pockets. And then they just like ceased to exist. And then I bought cargo shorts. Then literally six months later, fashion changed, short shorts are back. And I go, god damn it, got all these cargo shorts.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Son of a. Isn't it nice when fashion loops back around to what you like again? Yeah. And I'm so scared because right now, like baggy pants are in. I can finally, my thighs and ass can finally fucking fit in something. Let that bitch breathe. Thighs and ass.
Starting point is 00:12:38 They can finally fit into pants and shorts again, but it's starting to tighten back up. I know that it is. It's looping back around already. Are you going to go full, full loose Hollywood pants, Adam? Yeah, I will. Oh God, I want to do. I want you're going to go like this is just like my math teachers growing up had like the big loose slacks loose. I want to look like DL Hughley or Steve Harvey. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Kings of comedy. Yeah, call's exactly what I'm saying. Kings of comedy. Yeah, call me Cedric. My math teachers, it was like the kings of comedy suits. And I was just like, I'm never, I'm not, that's not for me. Cedric the Adam Tainter. I would love that. I would love that, dude.
Starting point is 00:13:17 And that's what is like fashionable right now. I'm like, okay, let me fucking write that. And then what's cool is we're now at the age where you don't have to follow trends You don't have to go one direction. Yeah, I love it So so now I can finally go okay I can buy 20 pairs of pants now ride it out to the end of my life Bro you guys are celebrities you're still in the public eye you're on thank you Jimmy Fallon like you need to still Approach fashion you can't just roll up in big dog t-shirts dude big wide loose pants though look at dude look at
Starting point is 00:13:54 Adam Sandler Fucking elementary school kid his entire car. Adam's that's your fashion icon right Adam I mean yeah, I love it. He stamped that stamped that. He's almost a fashionista off of being anti-fashion. Right. Okay, so? Well, then you need to really slop your game up because you're kind of riding. I'm not, it's not a sloppy look.
Starting point is 00:14:16 It's a tailored look, you know, but it's- Who? Me, what I'm doing. Yeah, you, yeah. Yes, I'm not. Would you rather be like tailored out of fashion or like so out of fashion that you're back in fashion? I wanna not think about fashion
Starting point is 00:14:32 in the way that I know you do. Great ass! Every day you're constantly thinking about keeping up with the Joneses. I don't wanna think about that at all. I wanna buy 20 pairs of pants. Okay. And then die.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Just bury them in all the pants. Okay. that at all. I want to buy 20 pairs of pants and then die. Bury them in all the pants. See you live in these 20 pairs of pants for the rest of my life and never have to go pan shopping, never buy another pair of pants. Okay. And then buy them in some sizes, maybe go two sizes up from where I'm at now to have some wiggle room when you get a little... Yeah. Did your grandparents dress from their best era?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Mine did for sure. Yeah. My grandma, I never saw my grandfather in jeans. He would go fishing in slacks. Yeah. My grandparents were dressed still like it was in the 70s because they had like, that was like their top earning years. They're like most stylish clothes. Okay. They were still rocking that. Is that the shit when like they would wear the pants above their belly button? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. The whole nine yards. By the way I would love that. Trench coats like derby hat and I'm like huh? Yessir. I would love that. My grandfather wore slacks, dress shoes, and a button-up every day. Every day. Right and you would love that. And I'm like, that's what I would love.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I mean, not that. But that's not your era. I wanna wear some baggy jeans. Yeah, you need jankos. And a t-shirt, or exactly what I'm wearing now, a t-shirt and basketball shorts. Ups, winning. Basketball trunks.
Starting point is 00:16:00 This guy's a baller. I do wanna give credit to Atiba Jefferson, who's always worn big pants. Okay. He really waited it out.'s always worn big pants. Okay. He really waited it out. He didn't. He never won skinny. Yeah. And everyone noticed. Everyone talked about it.
Starting point is 00:16:10 He doesn't know, but everyone talked about it behind his back a lot. Did Teba ever wear skinny jeans? I bet. I don't think he ever had a skinny jean era. Never. Never seen it. Well, you know, it's hard to skateboard in skinny jeans. But they did. That's who kind of started the skinny jeans. Wow, they did. Wow. Did they ever? Wow they did Wow did they and didn't they like didn't they didn't they ever we did we?
Starting point is 00:16:31 And did you say didn't or do you say didn't? I it all depends it depends when you catch me I say didn't no I think I said didn't yeah you do Didn't yeah, I say didn't say didn't which is fine. He says didn't didn't I think I said didn't yeah, you do didn't it. Yeah, I said didn't say didn't which is fine He says didn't did I don't say I didn't I say didn't I saw dumb I say you are so dumb. I say we're all so dumb. Yeah, we're all so I say potato We're not we're not as dumb as you know, no, no, no, no, no, no on the fly Oh, the more people listen the more they're like unfollow you guys are Hold up. The more people listen, the more they're like, unfollow.
Starting point is 00:17:03 You guys are idiots. And I go, no. I'm a dumbass. It is a little bit like, wow, how did they create a television show? How are they good at what they do when you hear them on the fly sound so dumb? Here is what the podcast has opened up to me
Starting point is 00:17:20 and exposed myself to, is that. Go for it, I'm gonna go take a shit. I don't speak well on the fly, but if you give me a second to think about it and gather my knowledge that I've gathered throughout my life I can form gather gather gather gather gather get my fuckers like one word collected you're a stupid dumb ass accumulated Accumulated... Gather my knowledge that I've... Fuck, what's another word?
Starting point is 00:17:50 Gathered... Pretty intelligent sentences after I've gathered everything I've learned. Gathered... I'm not as dumb as you think I am. I think this is a slippery, this is a trap. Telling people you're not dumb, whatever. It's way better to lean in to being dumb. And then when you can know more words,
Starting point is 00:18:15 know another word for gather, then people are like, wow, he does know a synonym for gather. In my 50s, I'm going to buckle, I'm going to hunker down and really start learning. Gathering. Gathering. So wait, you're only what, 44 now? 43?
Starting point is 00:18:31 Come on now. We're knocking on 44. It's this month. Donkey! Knocking on 44. So you have six years. What time is this? When's this drop, this episode?
Starting point is 00:18:39 Six years. Is that close? It's coming up. A few weeks. I'm accepting gifts. Oh my god. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Denity King alum
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Starting point is 00:23:01 Do you guys feel like you're getting dumber? I feel like I'm getting dumber. You are. Differently smart. I'll say that for you. Yeah, I think my brain is rotting. Yeah, you are. Brain rot. I'm getting wiser, like about life, but I think I'm getting dumber.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Like I just don't have room for stuff. Especially when you start parenting, you're like, your brain starts farting. When I talk to my kids, I can't do a fucking complete sentence. Yeah, I would say that is right. I got some geography questions that threw me for a motherfucking loop. Well, dude, you thought Ohio was on the West Coast, so. That's even, that's just the United States.
Starting point is 00:23:38 The fact that I fucked that up is really bad. But then I got asked, like, do other countries have states? I'm like, no, we're the only ones who have states. And then as soon as I Googled it. I don't know the answer to that. Who else has states? Mexico has 31 states. Yeah, great.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Great, by the way, not knowing- Shut up, bitch! Ohio isn't on the East Coast is dumber than knowing states in Mexico. Is way dumber. Yeah, way dumber. Well, I wish I would have known. It's hard. It's hard. Is there a lot of knowledge in this world? It's really hard to gather it all. And it's really embarrassing to be like when you get asked something by your kid and then you're like, let's
Starting point is 00:24:16 Google it. And then they're like, you're an idiot. You just Google everything. You don't know anything. I used to just look at Atlas. Well, I feel like I know what son says that to you. And I would be, I feel like your oldest son would really take me to task. I think he could really dress you down and be like, you're an idiot. And you could feel that in your soul. He used to ask me questions. And now when we like drive anywhere, it's just quiet because he's like, you can't.
Starting point is 00:24:43 He's like, there's nothing I can do. You lose! I'm wasting my time if I speak with you I'm not getting anything I'm not I'm light years ahead of you I guess I'll fucking talk if I need to know about Dobie Gillis or whatever you know how fucking great pull thanks man I gathered it a while ago yeah what you know know what it is? It's just quiet. And then when the light turns green, he's like, you can go now. I'm like, what the fuck? Right. Holy.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And then I just slam on the brakes real quick and. Oh, man. Check his ass. Is there ever a point? And Anders has boys, so it's probably different than Blake. But do you ever just want to like just hit your kids? We've been over this. Because I was hit. It's like the first it's the first instinct. You're like this is when you hit them. This is the moment. Yeah this is when you just give a little whack.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And you're like and you don't have the tools because you can't pull from your... Chains and whips. No, you can't pull from your experience as a kid hearing your parents be like, da-da-da-da-da. So I'm inventing shit, you know what I mean? That's it. When my wife sends me the articles, I read the headline and then the little one underneath that. I'm like, oh, maybe something from that.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Wait, so what are you trying to, and the articles are like, here's why we don't hit our kids or what is? I wouldn't read that, I wouldn't read that. No, it's like, here's some alternate, alternative different like parenting shit, right? You got some like new age punishments. Yeah, different parenting stuff. You just scroll down to the bottom paragraph
Starting point is 00:26:20 where they go, in summary, don't hit them, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but you know, you're trying. Shut the fuck up! This is when you put it in a chat GPT and go summarize this article for me. Yeah. I could do that probably, right?
Starting point is 00:26:31 Should I hit my kid? Are you just, and you hand the phone to your kid and you go, read that, you asshole. Read that, do that, do that. But like instinctually, I don't have the like. Do a dad, dad GPT set. My knee jerk reaction is to knee this little jerk is like definitely physical as opposed to like this is the moment you
Starting point is 00:26:53 say that one thing that made you kind of check yourself as a kid yeah like like when I hear people go where you say hey oh do you want to be a bitch so like stuff like that you want to be a bitch? So like stuff like that. You want to be a bitch, dude? They keep doing that. Yeah, and then I go too late. You are one you are one And I'm not gonna let you up until you say sorry No, but like remember when I whenever people be like minute when your parents say like I'm not angry I'm just disappointed like isn't that the worst? I'm like, I'm like what world are you talking about this is some real emo shit is it yeah hell yeah I'm not angry I'm disappointed like that was never like a thing in my household they were like I'm angry fuck it there was never like a I'm just as yeah I never really got that the
Starting point is 00:27:40 only time I ever because my parents wouldn't really get that angry it mostly was just like, whatever. I'm pissed now! And I really didn't get hit. I probably should have been hit a few more times than I was. Kyle did too. You have actually. I have? Yeah, you have.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Don't worry about it. You hit me one time when I was snapping a... This is not real. I think I was flicking a candy necklace and flicking you with the things and you told me if I do that again, you're going to hit me. Oh, I do. I do. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And I did it and you hit me viciously hard right in my chest and I lost my breath. I do remember that. This is having older brothers. Bullying! It wasn't a tit for tat. It was to a three to a 10, the amount, the pain scale. But this is having older brothers. And when you fuck with older brothers,
Starting point is 00:28:35 this is how they react. You were fucking with me. And by the way, and I'm never gonna flick you with a candy necklace ever again. I learned. I gave you the warning. At least after he says, don't do it, at least after he says don't do it at least after he says like don't do it If you do it again, it's it's coming back to you
Starting point is 00:28:50 So really I learned like I could take it up to a point with Duras And then I have to back you can take it up to a point with everybody with you. I'll just do it all day long I'll do it all day. Okay. All right, wait till I snap. I'm coming back with fucking weapons none none Blake's Blake's weapons would be so funny. He'd come back with just like some fucking foam nunchucks. I'm going to get you. I got you a pool noodle. Come here.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I'm buying a gun tomorrow. Fuck this. Oh, what are your knee jerk reactions when they're writing on the wall or like they're doing whatever? Shit in their pants throwing it at you. Me? Yeah. Well you, I mean my kid's so young, I'm not gonna hit a one year old.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Adam's not there yet. Yeah, you don't hit him, you just twist the arm skin. Go ahead, go ahead Blake. You hit him with a phone book. I mean, you set a bar. So if you set the bar so far that it's hitting, then the kid will walk into that. But if you make the bar,
Starting point is 00:29:46 hey, you gotta sit on this bench and stay there, that will feel like a super effective punishment. And the bench has nails? The bench has a fucking- It's like a bench of nails, right? Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, now I got it. Now it's making sense.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Dude, that's genius, that's genius. I didn't understand it. As soon as you start to break the plane I got it. That's making sense. That's genius. That's genius. I didn't understand it. As soon as you start to break the plane of like the mental punishment into like the physical punishment, it just, it changes it. How much, how many times have you called betterhelp.com? Because this seems like it was straight up from a counselor. That is not a thing that you thought up your own. Someone told you that through
Starting point is 00:30:26 your years and years and years of seeing someone and talking to someone. No, yeah, you learn it along the way. You learn as you go. Like, for sure. I don't want to learn nothing. Yeah. I want it to become all natural. You have to talk to other parents and hear, you have to from them I feel like back in the day maybe parents didn't even talk to each other. Yeah About parents. Yeah, we all we all beat their ass. You think parents didn't talk to each other at all though? I don't know interesting. I don't know often where parents talk. I've definitely gotten better Parenting. Yeah, I feel this gentle parenting Technique I feel is pretty bitch made though. I thought about this the other day.
Starting point is 00:31:09 It doesn't have to be gentle. It doesn't have to be gentle. It has to be like mental warfare is the harshest thing it can be. This is the perfect mix. You know how like you can have a freak in the sheets, a lady in the streets with a freak in the sheets, right? You're fucking disaster my guy.
Starting point is 00:31:24 When I'm thinking about my kids, I'm always thinking about that phrase. You wanna apply the same thing to your daughters. This is the way. No, you want them to be, that's life, like a bitch. Sure. But you want them to have like, A grit.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Like a personal grit, thank you, exactly. Yeah. You want them to be fucking. Yeah. You don't want them to be aggressive, but you want them to be able to handle themselves. You don't want to get walked over in this life. This life is hard. The only reason I'm being hard on you is because the world outside is not nice. Dude, I would love to hear that conversation with your two-year-old. Life is hard. Sit on these nails. Life is hard. The only reason I'm making you sit on this bench is because life is hard and I'm preparing you. The thing about getting walked on by like other people though, like I don't know, like the more people I meet who let that kind of stuff to slide, they're like, yeah, I got walked on.
Starting point is 00:32:29 But the person who's walking on people, that's gonna come back to bite them in the ass. Yeah, yeah, I believe in that. I heard somebody tell a story the other day about getting punched on the subway because they got on and were standing too close to somebody who was like, get the fuck off of me and punched him in the face.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And I was like, A, that person's obviously like crazy. A lunatic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And hates themselves. And you know, let's say for a better story or whatever, they're not a crazy street person or whatever. They're just a guy who's got a short fuse who's like, you're too close to me
Starting point is 00:33:00 and I'm gonna punch you to tell you to back the fuck up. I'm like, is that person just gonna go to jail someday? Like they've got some shit they're going through. Sure. Or do I fight this person? Well, yeah. And potentially ruin my day or life or whatever. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Like Con Air. The older I've gotten, the more I wouldn't fight that man. Exactly. But I would say even 10 years ago, I think I would have swung on that guy. If I suddenly get punched, unprovoked, and I think I would try to fight that man. I'm pissed now!
Starting point is 00:33:35 A decade ago. But now I wouldn't. You go Iowa wrestling on him? Yeah, I would take him, I'd take him down at the hips, take him down to the ground, little ground to pound, obviously. Yeah, you gotta assess that. What was that situation? It was just like one on one? Were you with your boys? Were you with your family?
Starting point is 00:33:49 No, there's no boys. There's no boys. There's no family. There's no family. One on one. It's one on one. And he's one on one. Who are you? And let's say he's a business guy. It doesn't seem like he's carrying a shiv or whatever. You know, he's just like a fucking regular guy. Like a Wall Street bro. And he's got the, he's almost your twin.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Same body type. Oh my God. Yeah, just so it's fair. Just so it's fair. Wait, not me, because we're not Wall Street. That'd be like a fucking rocker, like kind of fucking. Same body type. Like you're not talking about, your hair isn't your body type.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. There's ways to be like, oh yeah, like that guy doesn't take shit, right? Like he doesn't fuck around, right? He's like a fuck around and find out type guy. But also you're like, it's a crowded subway, dude. I'm just trying to ride this train and you punch me. Like, are you crazy? Or do I have to fight you now?
Starting point is 00:34:39 I almost feel... How does this person learn? Man, I'm really torn up. Am I a bitch or an asshole? I don't know what's happening. You turning into a bitch, and I like this I blame better help right this might be better helps fall. Oh, yeah, we just lost the message sponsor No, they love this I and maybe I'm walking this back you almost have to fight this guy You almost have to at least okay, just push him and say what's your problem? It's a packed subway
Starting point is 00:35:04 No, well, then it's a fight Then it's a fight. He's already punched. Yeah, so if you're gonna push him push him back, then it's on Why are you then pushing him if I'm punched? I'm now punching I'm not getting punched and then pushing if I'm pushed it's a push to create separation I'm either pushing or punching so you don't get punched again. Mmm. What are you a fucking? Video where they they showed the person get beat up and they're like to create separation, right? Sure. Okay, and then nose into the brain nose into brain. What do you do? Like I don't know you definitely don't go from punch to push, you know, you go straight sweep kick
Starting point is 00:35:39 What are you talking about? You go? Yeah, you kick it. You take him out at the knee Yeah, yeah, you got low you go low and then you take him out at the knee. You go low. You force him to lick your asshole. And then you fucking put your dick right. Since you're down there. Is this what you wanted? Next stop! Meanwhile it's like 5pm. It's absolutely packed.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I was actually kind of rooting for the guy that got punched until he made the other guy eat his asshole. You're a fucking disaster my guy. Yeah, that got real aggressive. Yeah, they're into it now. I'd say that's even more aggressive than getting punched in the face.
Starting point is 00:36:18 You turn around and someone just goes, I love New York City. He then sweep kicked him. He, Blanca sweep kicked him and then put his fucking nuts all the way down into his mouth. In one fail swoop, sweeping the leg, turning. It was crazy. Underwear gets pulled down, face ends up,
Starting point is 00:36:36 he credit card slides your ass crack with his nose, goes right into the butthole. I've been waiting for this. Oh wait, so that guy ate his asshole? I thought the, I thought you were forcing, I thought you were forcing him to eat your asshole his own. Oh Yeah, yeah, so he punches me oh, yeah Yeah, then I sweep the legs and he when he goes down all in one move. No not I have a different what's your move?
Starting point is 00:37:03 I sweep kick him and then I grab his legs and I put him over his head and then I start licking his ass. L-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l Right. Yeah. Because you're liking what I'm doing. You're licking what I'm... Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Hey. You told him. You got him, man. All right. Anything else in the news? You lose! Take back.
Starting point is 00:37:32 But that's very much like a... The type of thing... I think you would almost be so shocked that you would probably do nothing. I think the three of us would more than likely not do anything in that moment. Unless it's like you just snap, which I've snapped for less. But that's the thing is that do you want to be somebody who is so shocked?
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean, I've snapped for less. So but Adam, I feel like Adam, you snap for other reasons. Like, how often do you snap on like a like like a, someone is initiating a fight? That's just a different, you really have to gauge a lot of stuff at that point. But you, when you snap, there's no gauging. You just snap and suddenly you're ready. You're fucking flying high.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Hell yeah, brother. Yeah, you didn't know that? Give me a hell yeah! I feel like part of the reason I snap was a thing that I've developed since childhood that if you act like a fucking psychopath, no one wants to fight you because you're like, this guy will eat my face. Like he's a lunatic. Like I don't want to fight him because he'll, he'll bite me. He'll like grab my nuts. He
Starting point is 00:38:35 might try to eat my asshole. Like he's a lunatic. Yeah. But if this guy has already punched you in the face, then you can't, there's no elevating past that, because he's already in fight mode. Yeah. Let's step this out, okay? Ready, you get on the train, the guy next to you turns, punches you in the face. Yep.
Starting point is 00:38:55 We've established this. Nose, bloody, back the fuck up off of me, don't stand so close. You're bloody. You have to just take off your bag, set it down, unbutton your shirt slowly. Let him watch you do this. Wait, you gotta crack your neck? You cross your hands on your chest and then you just scratch yourself all the way across in an X. Oh shit. I'm a dude. And then you just go crazy on him, right?
Starting point is 00:39:25 And if you fail, you at least tried. And if you win, you get to tell everybody on the train that you are the king daddy of the subway. Well. Yeah, then that's a cool story. No, if you failed, you are viral as hell, because there's like, look at this bro who took the- Well, you know what I think you need to do
Starting point is 00:39:44 is you need to have a really scary scary tattoo or like a phrase Mm-hmm tattooed on your chest so then when you take off your shirt everyone's like what the fuck like oh shit What this is really like what is it are you saying like something? Shakespearean like what could it possibly yeah, Blake yeah, Blake Are you saying like something Shakespearean like what could it possibly yeah, Blake? Yeah, Blake You're saying a scary phrase nothing like don't fuck with me like I'm like, okay, you're a fucking dork But if it's like some shit, I have to like Adam means like snake dragons eating. Yeah, I'm talking like like Satan some Satan tattoo
Starting point is 00:40:27 Or the goat guy or like I thought you said a phrase I mean, I don't know any like Satan phrases off the top of my head I'm saying if what if if it's words cuz of course we could have a picture like you could have a fucking Yeah, imagine you take it off and it's full on yakuza tattoos and everyone's like, what the fuck is this? But I'm like saying, what... And someone's like, seems like cultural appropriation. You're like, I'm in the middle of something, just give me a second, we'll address that.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Stop. Stop. But then they don't know how much Asian ancestry I have. I lived in Japan. My wife is Japanese, my children are Japanese. That's true. It's just a whole backstory you're telling to the crowd. Time out. Time out. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Denity King alum,
Starting point is 00:41:21 Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Diddy Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise based on her firsthand knowledge. From her days on Making the Band as she emerged as the breakout star,
Starting point is 00:41:52 the truth of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamor. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there. Listen to Amy and TJ Presents presents Aubrey O'Day, covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Hello, hello, Malcolm Gladwell here. On this season of Revisionist History, we're going where no podcast has ever gone before. In combination with my three-year-old, we defend the show that everyone else hates. I'm talking, of course, about Paw Patrol. There's some things that really piss me off when it comes to Paw Patrol. It's pretty simple. It sucks. If my son watches Paw Patrol, I hate it. Everyone hates it, except for me. Plus, we investigate everything from why American sirens
Starting point is 00:42:45 are so unbearably loud, to the impact of face blindness on social connection, to the secret behind Thomas's English muffins, perfect nooks and crannies. And also, we go after Joe Rogan. Are you ready, Joe? I'm coming for you. You won't wanna miss it.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Listen to Revisionist History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some
Starting point is 00:43:29 of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity
Starting point is 00:43:49 for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod.
Starting point is 00:44:12 And this is season two of the World on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players
Starting point is 00:44:29 all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug band. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. Got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamouche. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts are wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple podcast. What could your chest say that would warn someone not to fuck with you? That could be taken seriously. I'll eat your ass? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Friendship. Great ass! I was gonna try and think of one and now I kinda don't. I think it would be something Shakespearean. Okay, Blake, name something Shakespearean person okay, Blake name something Shakespearean Oh, man. No you know what it would have to be something in like pig or not pig latin. I bite my thumb at you It would have to be something like regular latin like I'm a I'm a relias Tremious I don't know I would have to okay very cool very cool phrase something no
Starting point is 00:46:04 I don't know. I would have to okay very cool very cool phrase something no First of all you you want something that's easy because in the moment you want them to read it and be like oh what the fuck I mean if it says like Hell's Angels chapter, whatever you know you know That's you know you're like affiliated to some gang or in some way or you know that's good. Yeah. Yeah, great great call affilius rodrigo Take your shirt off and it says I am a hells angels Stay away, buddy. You just fucked with the wrong alien Then it's like see ya and then there's an ice agent on the train. He comes and takes you away immediately. Yeah, it's like, fuck, oh shit, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Oh, interesting. Interesting. Yes points. Yes points. Oh, shit. Of course, of course. You're outta here, bud. But just to avoid that situation,
Starting point is 00:46:57 those words are kind of lit by, you have like a flying saucer up here on your chest, and then the light below that says you just fucked with the wrong alien from outer space. I honestly think Kyle has this on his chest. But it is what it is. Dude, I could see it. Kyle would lose.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Kyle would just start going, he'd get punched and then he would start screaming and not fighting the guy. Yeah, that's exactly right. Kyle would like, you've seen the video of the dude like headbutting the car to intimidate the dude and then he knocks himself out. Yeah, that's the best. I must have seen that. I must have seen that. That's the best.
Starting point is 00:47:33 That's Kyle. That's Kyle. Yeah, I feel Kyle would scream and yell and the guy would probably be off put and be like, alright, I'm not gonna fight this fucking psychopath. Right. And then Kyle would like call Isaac and quit whatever job he's working on. Right? It's done. Right, right? He's like I quit. I'm fucking done, dude. This guy hit me on the subway and Isaac would be like What does that have to do with your work? I was gonna be like did you take off your shirt and show him your tattoo and be like I did he laughed at it
Starting point is 00:48:01 Yeah, take it seriously. I screamed I. I screamed and said, why, dad? Yeah. Frickin' see ya. I'm not allowed back in New York now. It's a whole thing. This is what it is. Oh, God. Oh, God. But don't but here's my question.
Starting point is 00:48:15 So the final question for this whole scenario is, OK, you want to be a person who when you get punched in the face? Yeah. Because, Adam, you said like, wasn't the job so shocked? You'd be you'd be so shocked. Or do you want to be the person, because Adam you said like, wouldn't you be so shocked? You'd be so shocked. Or do you wanna be the person who goes, I just got punched, I'm in a fight now. Who do you wanna be?
Starting point is 00:48:32 I don't know, I would prefer to be the guy that gets in the fight, but I think we are all in a precarious situation that if you get in a fight, does someone could, if you hit someone, like I'm jacked as fuck, and I know my boys are are too you're in it and if I catch someone just right mm-hmm he's fucking toast dude I don't want to kill a man on the subway and then you kill the man but what if you what if you could what if you then your family sues you sure and
Starting point is 00:48:58 then they now live in your house and they're fucking your wife no one and they're fucking your wife and they are raising your child. Yeah, court order. Honey, it's court order. Wait. That's how it goes, man. And I don't know if I'm willing to give up all of that. Uh huh. Okay. Great answer. I like that. So you're a bitch. Yeah, I guess. Because I think that's what it comes down to is a bitch just considers things, right? But I don't know what would happen. I mean, you guys know me.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I do, I can, I do have a switch. Yeah. It takes me a long time to get to that point, but then I will snap. And I'm afraid, I'm afraid being punched in the face would be, I guess I, the only time I was ever punched in the face was I was at a Queens of the Stone Age concert in San Diego and was ever punched in the face was I was at a Queens of the Stone Age Concert in San Diego, and I was punched in the face and the guy broke my nose and
Starting point is 00:49:50 But you were you were young I was 19 or 20 You didn't have your man body yet so they had took me out the back because I was bleeding everywhere and Security ushered me out the back and now they're like kicking me out and I'm like what the fuck I was like right I'm where the fuck is this guy this guy came out and was the scariest looking guy He was like 6'4 fucking huge was like two years old a man he was and but like had very scary like skull and crossbone type tattoos and
Starting point is 00:50:26 That's how you met Zach Meade? Yeah. And Chess said, I am a Hell's Angel. You better believe it, bud. You better watch out. I'm a real Hell's Angel. And the Mongols as well. Two biker gangs. And thems too.
Starting point is 00:50:37 And them too. I'm in all the biker gangs. And Nomads. I'm in that biker gang. We're getting down to his pubic hair now. You're like, what is it? Can I just say it? I'm in all the biker gangs, bud.
Starting point is 00:50:44 You better watch out. You better watch out. You better watch out. MC. And I hit hard. And I'm like, where the fuck is he? Where is he? Where can, fucking bring him to me? And the guy's like, okay, kid, all right.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I'm right here. And then they brought him out. And he was like, do you want him? He's like, oh, he's right here. And I'm like, no, I'm good. Say it. I'm good. I'm good, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Yeah, I'm good. But I! I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. But I think if you, if someone is my size and I get hit by him, I would like to believe I would fight a man. Yeah. Yeah. And thank dear God, this is not an invitation. Oh yeah. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Just like, to punch us in pub. Don't punch us, God. Guys, we're old, we're philosophers, we're talking about life. Please don't hit us. Dude. Please don't hit me. If you wanna hit one of us,
Starting point is 00:51:34 slide into Blake's DMs and pick a time and place. Please don't be on the cruise and hit me. Please don't be on the cruise and punch me. Here's the real deal. I will sue you for everything you got. I will be fucking your wife. I will have your ass in a vice. I will, hey, we'll fuck your wives.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Sorry. We will pass her around. Sorry. Sorry. We will raise your kid. That was the rules, court ordered. Court ordered. And by the way, and now that we've said that,
Starting point is 00:52:04 don't show up on a subway with your wife and punch me and then gesture towards your wife who's willing. Yeah, definitely don't do that. Because we don't want to. We don't want to. This is not what we're doing. We're not setting up some sort of scenario. We don't want to do this.
Starting point is 00:52:18 We don't want to. But if push comes to shove, comes to punching? Yeah, but if punch comes to I have to fuck your wife and raise your kids, I will. Yeah, absolutely. I'm gonna get them in a good public school. Don't you worry about that. I'm gonna really get them right. Please don't punch us. We're just talking. It's all jokes, guys. This is the same sort of scenario that you're like...
Starting point is 00:52:41 God damn it. You know when someone says something and you want to like tee off on them, but you know it would be a little inappropriate to tee off on them in that moment or like, it's like a boss. Like a boss. Okay. Maybe it's a, in a professional setting and someone says something or says, maybe kind of says a sly comment to you that's like talking down to you a little bit.
Starting point is 00:53:05 And you're like, in the moment. You're actually funny in this, yeah. Sometimes, yeah. And you wanna fucking tee off on them, but you choose not to in the moment, and then you go home and you're driving home, and then you just have a fucking soliloquy. That's essentially what we're doing now.
Starting point is 00:53:20 So I thought about this the other day. I think there's two types of people in this world. and most comedians are the ones that you just talked about. There are people who don't do the thing in the moment but they go through it over and over and over and they rehearse and they go, I should have done this, I should have done that. And then the other people are the people who do the thing in the moment and sometimes it works out for them and sometimes it does not. Yeah. Meaning like they boss up, or they boss up, and like shit hits the fan that these people are in jail.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I feel like you are the person that just says shit in the moment a lot of times. And you got to walk it back. I got all sorts of walk backs. That's why I'm in comedy, because I'm like, OK, here's the scenario. This happened to me, and now we're going to make it into a TV show.
Starting point is 00:54:02 You know what I mean? Sure. Yeah. Sure, sure. I feel like other people are like, yeah, I think maybe somebody said some shit to me and now we're gonna make it into a TV show. Yeah, I mean sure sure sure I feel like other people are like Yeah, I think maybe somebody said some shit to me as a kid punched him and anyway or like they don't think about it They just move on. Yeah. No, I I the handful of times I've I've had slights. I think about those incessantly and I I think about those incessantly and I have a little list of people that I will never work with. People that I could have employed that I've chosen not to because of past slights.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Transgressions. Thank you, God! Transgressions and shit that they've said and I'm like, hey, let it be known. How about a tattoo that says, you can't handle these transgressions alien? Absolutely don't slight me bro. Yeah I'm trans. Wait what? Transgression.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Yeah. Wait what? Adam puts the trans and transgression. I put the trans and transgression. That's kind of cool. Yeah. If I could pivot to something that probably nobody will want to talk about Any tapex any apologies any epic slams? You know what I've been noticing lately with that um
Starting point is 00:55:19 You know sometimes we we hang out with our pro sports buddies we we we pop a few zins with them Yeah, you know about this in way. Yeah, I forgot you are constantly popping popping Zens with my pro athlete buddies. We told this story, didn't we? No, but I didn't. Didn't we tell this story? We talked about Zen-ing, right? With your homie. What's his name? With Bo Allen, with Matt Chapman.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Chapman. I've been taking a lot of Zens lately. Zen-ing, duh. I'm starting to feel like I have like, you know, when you have like acid flashbacks? I'm getting like weird like zen tongue. Like. I don't know acid flashbacks.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I'm starting to feel like sometimes my tongue feels like there's a zen in my mouth and it might be something. You zen trouble? Okay, any take backs, any apologies, any epic slams? And Adam, I'm right there with you, but Blake, based on the fact that I haven't done zins, Adam, have you done zins?
Starting point is 00:56:07 Well, I did the one time with Matt Chapman, the professional baseball player. And so you're asking us about... Our go, my go. And by the way, I hated it. I've never even done nicotine, ever. I've never had nicotine. Oh, dude. So, I was fucking on the moon
Starting point is 00:56:25 You got a felt like I was on drugs. Well on a buzz that turned very quickly. I was like, oh shit I'm feeling good. Like this is this is great I'm like why nauseous or no and then all of a sudden the room started spinning it felt like I was on a boat and it's very rocky I felt like shit was on a boat and it's very rocky. I felt like I was going to shit and also vomit. And then I go upstairs and it's an after party for the Dr. Phil show that Blake and I were on. Our buddy Adam Ray does this Dr. Phil live show. So we did that and it's an after party for that. So I know everyone that's up there or like, or know me, you know So we have to go up and like glad hand a bunch of people right like, you know, be gracious talk to people
Starting point is 00:57:09 I'm fucking spinning. I have to sit in a corner like out like a hermit people are like, oh is that I'm like unapproachable He's fucking being weird then these girls come up and talk to me and then I confide in them I'm like I'm feeling like shit like I just did a sin for the first time and she goes I have two sins in my mouth right now, I'm like, I'm feeling like shit. Like I just did a zin for the first time, and she goes, I have two zins in my mouth right now. And I'm like, ha ha ha. She took two zins out of her mouth and made me feel like such a bitch. Well, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:57:33 My question is to TII Nation, if any of you do pop a zin every now and then, do you ever have like zin back? Zinsanity. Zinsanity that catches back up with you. Sometimes my tongue feels like I have a zin in it. Yes, points! Yeah, I think that that's normal.
Starting point is 00:57:51 When I was a kid and I was a camp counselor, we would do chewing tobacco, like the little bags, you know? Yeah. But like the dips, whatever. Not a snus, but like a true like... Like a little bag, what do they call them? A dip, some dip. There was like... But it was B in a bag, but like a true like. Like a little bag, a little, what do they call them? A dip, some dip, it was just some dip.
Starting point is 00:58:06 But it was B in a bag, usually. Or I guess it would be a little pinch. Anyway, I remember, so you're doing this like every day for two weeks, you know, and then I remember getting home, and for sure my mouth was calling me to go to a 7-Eleven and buy some scola. Or some fucking Kodiak. Yeah, I'm feeling it back here. That's what it is. It's just it going, you want more, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Come and zen me. I haven't zened in a while, but lately the zen is calling me, baby. That's how crazy it is, bro. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty addictive. Maybe I get into it. Maybe I get maybe I try it again just to see if I can get addicted to something else. If you get punched in the face on the, and then you you take your backpack off your bag You put it you pull a zin out you put it in your fucking lip
Starting point is 00:58:52 You scratch your chest across and do an egg brother. I'm gonna let you know you're sitting for it That's pretty good Any take backs, any apologies, any epic slams? Yes, puns! Self-serve. Definitely gotta be a take back in there somewhere.
Starting point is 00:59:16 I feel like we dunked on Kyle a little bit. When he's not here to defend himself, I hate to do it. I hate to do it. Because we don't know what he's doing not on the pod. He's not on the pod. So we don't know. He could be eating babies. We're not sure. But I don't like to talk shit on him. Water trash. When he's not here. So he could be off eating babies. We're not sure. But I don't like to
Starting point is 00:59:38 talk shit on him. Nice. Thanks for clearing that up. Yeah, that's really cool. I'm a good guy. I guess I would take- Shout out to Zen. Zen, send us some Zen. We'll do a live segment. We're called The Boys Go Zen-ing. Yeah, I'll do a Zen on the pod,
Starting point is 00:59:54 see if I can vomit on the pod. This is actually great. Yeah, that would be really cool to do a fully Zen-ed up episode. I would love to see Ders just- Now, does Zen affect your tea or? It's got a booster testosterone testosterone. Yeah, is that why you started to maybe boost your test? Oh, I have no problem with my levels. I'm feeling I'm actually feeling super jacked lately. So oh all right
Starting point is 01:00:18 I got some new PR some new personal records I will say I ran the other day and I envisioned us doing the Malibu Triathlon. And I'm like, if I'm the guy who's running, I won't let you guys down. I promise. I promise. Adam, is your body betraying you? What's happening?
Starting point is 01:00:39 My body's fully betraying me. Can you bike yet or no? No, I'm back to barely walking again. I've, it's my body has failed me once again. It was going really good there for a while and then it started to betray me again. Yeah. You look so good, dude.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Thanks, thanks man. Every time I see you, you look good, but you're just. Thanks dude, I'm not drinking and I'm eating way less and that's the trick turns out So probably no Triathlon in my near future. I'm hoping next year. I'm back, baby We just huddle up and the three of us and that's a cryathlon. That would be kind of cool. I would enter that. I got no take on that.
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