This Is Important - Ep 293: Are We Manosphere???

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

Today, this is what's important:  Drinking & smoking, cops, cheese zombies, Bonnie Blue, the manosphere, looksmaxing, & more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Lori Siegel, and this is mostly human, a tech podcast through a human lens. This week, an interview with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. I think society is going to decide that creators of AI products bear a tremendous amount of responsibility to the products we put out in the world. An in-depth conversation with a man who's shaping our future. My highest order bit is to not destroy the world with AI. Listen to Mostly Human on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Ready for a different take on Formula One? further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the under-explored pockets of F-1, including the story of the woman who last participated in a Formula One race weekend, the recent uptick in F-1 romance novels and plenty of mishap scandals and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Noah Kahn, the singer-songwriter behind the multi-platinum global hit stick season
Starting point is 00:01:11 and one of the biggest voices in music today. Talking about the mental illness stuff, it used to be this thing that I was ashamed of. Getting the talk about this is not common for me. Right now I need it more than ever. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Nora Jones, and my podcast playing along is back with more of my favorite musicians.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Check out my newest episode with Josh Grobin. You related to the Phantom at that point. Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that. That's so funny. Share each day with me each night, each morning. Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins. But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax.
Starting point is 00:02:09 You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct? I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, a lesbian. Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young.
Starting point is 00:02:26 This is love trapped. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to This Is Important, a production of IHeart Radio, the show where we only talk about what is most obviously very crucially important. Today on This Is Important, when did it get cool to suddenly love cops? And I like to pivot from Manosphere. to breaking down the national anthem.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I like Chief in the Kind. Let's go. I'm feeling good. That shit's important. Kumbaya. Everybody's coming. Kumbaya. Dude, is Kumbaya my dad?
Starting point is 00:03:29 What is kumbaya? It's got to be. Yeah, it was him on the cruise. Kumbaya. Yeah, I remember that. I think I flagged that. That's my new favorite. Actually saying Kumbaya.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yeah, that's my new favorite drop, I think. Oh, hit me with that again. Kumbaya. Kumbaya. Why does he sound like a 90, in the 90s, disjockey? Like, kumbaya, let's see those titties, kumbaya. Should he have a podcast? Are we missing out on a podcast that could be maybe, I think Joe Rogan hear your dad here?
Starting point is 00:04:05 Kumbaya. Yeah, I bet Joe Rogan would invite my dad on. before he'd invite me on. Absolutely. That goes without saying, dude, no shade. There's no shade? That would be huge. But I'm saying having his own podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:19 That would be sweet. Where he's interviewing politicians and people about aliens. But my dad is a man of few words. I mean, you know my dad. That's the best part. At the end of somebody talking for 20 minutes, he just goes, that's pretty fucked up. Brought you by hymns.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I know. I remember when I'm, was telling him about you guys are i mean you guys remember when they told me that i had stiff person syndrome and then i might be dying and uh you wouldn't probably going to i wouldn't shut up about it and i was going to my body was going to get so tight that my heart would stop beating and i would die um in excruciating pain coomba and they told me that and i'm and i'm telling my father that and his words of incur i guess not encouragement but like solace was jesus that fucking sucks.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And I'm like, yeah, dude. Hey, man, that sums it up. But that's what you want. That's a man response. That sums it up. Yeah, man. He's right. Huh, sucks to be you.
Starting point is 00:05:21 That fucking sucks. Yeah. Honestly, that fucking sucks. Because it's not a pity party. I love that. It's like, all right, we still go into Sizzler? Yeah. Are you going to pick yourself up by your bootstraps or what?
Starting point is 00:05:36 Jesus. I hope mom's making gullible. Glash for dinner. What is gouache? Well, you know what they say? Grass is always greener. Dude, the amount of food that only your parents make that I've been eating the last two months because my parents are now living here.
Starting point is 00:05:53 My dad got a new lung. I don't know if you talked about this on the podcast. Yes, we touched upon it. That was very kumbaya. Yeah, very kumbaya. So he's a brand new freshie. He's got a fresh baby. How's it holding up?
Starting point is 00:06:06 How's it holding up? So far so good. Is he going around the house, like, belting out songs and shit? No, he's not. Okay. Yeah, he's doing the Ace Ventura sliding door shit. Like, ro! Ro!
Starting point is 00:06:17 Raw! The hills are alive! He is walking. He's doing a lot of laps. But he's finally going to come down south and be at the beach. I'm going to come. Pretty exciting, pretty exciting news. That's great stuff, dude.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Yeah. Good, good, great. And he was up north in the Hollywood Los Angeles area. In the Hollywood. In proxious. of the hospital in case the lung rejected his body. Yeah. And by the way, he still has to go every week for the next three months or so.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Months. And it goes down to once a month. It's pretty well. And what's the deal? Will he ever smoke weed again? No, dude. That's the thing. That's what fucking sucks.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Koon, not kumbaya. Worth it? Kumbaya. And they go, he goes, well, can I eat it? Oh, yeah. And they go. Work around. And we all were like, yeah, I'm sure he can.
Starting point is 00:07:08 eat it. And they said, no, you can't. Because. What? Yes. Which fucking threw him for a loop. But only because they're like testing everything in his body so every week. So anything could like throw it off. And then they would have to change medications that maybe they shouldn't change. This sounds like the same thing that you had to go through where it's like we don't need to be fighting other poisons. We need to see what's going on with the body.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yes. Somebody help me. Exactly. So then they, so then what they're going to do, they said what we can do in about two months is you would have to do it every day at the same time and take the exact same dose. And he goes, oh, I can do that.
Starting point is 00:07:50 So he's just going to be high as a fucking kite. I love it. I got the time. Mission accepted. 420, baby. Sit here. 420 every day. It's coming up. It's coming up next week. I love the idea of
Starting point is 00:08:04 like an alarm going off. every day at 420 and him just being like, it's time. It's time. It's time. And then I go, well, what amount are you taking? Because I do edibles at night. You know, I drink my cans, my C-A-N-N. Hey, bad boy, the podcast.
Starting point is 00:08:21 That a boy. And I'll do maybe five, ten milligrams, you know, feeling good. And I'm feeling good. And my dad goes, Jesus Christ. And I go, whoa, what? And he goes, I wouldn't feel shit. I don't get, dad. You're not just trying to get food.
Starting point is 00:08:36 fucked up and he goes, I am. And I go, okay, Deb, this is a dose that you have to pick that you're going to be on every day. Because you can't go higher or lower because it has to be the same. That's a tough call. And he goes, 40. 40. You're going to do 40 milligrams
Starting point is 00:08:52 every day. 40 is a lot. 40 is a lot. That's exactly. And he goes, nope, 40. And I'm like, maybe, maybe let's just do 10. And he's done 40 before with any sort of consistency? Is that is no, is that is Greg?
Starting point is 00:09:07 I, no. He doesn't even like edibles. He likes smoking weed. Right. I like chief in the kind. But he's done five before and he's like, this fucking sucks. I can't feel shit. So now he's gonna do 40.
Starting point is 00:09:21 So we'll get down off the roof, dad, and let's just talk about it. Would you rather not feel it or be really fucked up every day? Yeah, you're right. That's the question. What's the question? Like, do you want a low dose or do you want a high dose? Oh, like underdo it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:34 You want a high dog. I think you want a high dog. Because it has to be the same. It has to be the same. It's really cool. Like right out the gate, the first day he does 40, he's like butt naked running through the street. And like, we sealed the fate, brother. He's got to do 40 tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:09:51 He has to do this again. I realize we had to call police, but it's happening again, everybody. This is 40. And what's so funny about us talking about this is there's going to be fans that are going to crawl into Blake's DMs that are going to be like, 40 you fucking pussy i do a hundred or whatever insane number no yeah that's an insane number listen if you're doing over 50 every day of your what you want to call life your existence we're calling in it existence i feel like shit's not going great what are you what are you escaping your band better be good you're absolutely i and i the way i tried to explain it to my dad i'm like dad that's like
Starting point is 00:10:32 Don't you just want to, let's say it's like a beer. So you do 10, that's like, I would say under 5 milligrams is like one beer. So 10 is like two beers. 15, maybe that's three or four beers, right? Okay, now we're cooking. Now I'm feeling good. Now I'm feeling good. So you want to do 40.
Starting point is 00:10:51 40. Like drink a 40? Yeah. No. More than a 40. If we're doing the math here. Yeah, there'd be like eight to 10 beers that he's drinking every night. I'm like, you're a fucking alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:11:02 How many beers are in a 40? Well, 40 is 40 ounces and a beer is 12, honey. 40 ounces and a beer is... And I'm doing quick math, and so it's not even four. Oh, because a beer has, what, 12 fluid ounces? And if you're just tuning in... Oh, up, Netflix just said, we're done here. They said if these guys are real party animals,
Starting point is 00:11:23 they better know their fluid ounces. Fuck it! This thing fucking sucks! Okay, well, I like that. I feel like if you're doing like 40... What are we called? Milligrams of weed, edibles. Oh.
Starting point is 00:11:33 He doesn't even know milligrams. Every fan just went, like a single tear just went down so many faces. Oh, the bitch. Is that us who said Native American tear? Yes, absolutely. Real tears. We've said that. Real tears, like, Native American tears.
Starting point is 00:11:49 You're like, at that point, if you're taking that much weed every day, is it like you're living in, like, Battlefield Earth, the movie? Like, everybody you look at looks like John Travolta with, like, the... I'll let you understand. answer your own question. Because Adam, I don't know if you have the answer to it. I have taken 40 milligrams before. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And did you sprout dreadlocks made of cable? And in fact, I think it was... Feed them the rats. It was, I did a, it wasn't 40 milligrams. It was 25 milligrams. And I took, it was a coffee weed drink. Upper and down. And I thought it was, I thought it was,
Starting point is 00:12:30 I thought it was a regular amount. It was like 25 or 30. It was something a lot. And I fucking pounded it. And then I was going to a show. I had a show in Wyoming. Oh, cute. I drank it on the way.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And then all of a sudden it kicks in, like, as I'm going on stage, I'm like, oh, fuck. I start to do my act. It was going great. Everything was going A-OK. I sort of just went on auto. pilot. I'm like just doing my jokes. And then the... I like how you say, I'm doing my jokes.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Which entail you doing this with your head. You weren't even speaking. You were just doing this. I'm doing comedy. No, it was just like... It wasn't even like me doing it. It was just like I clicked on the autopilot and my brain was going, this is crazy, but I'm still doing... I'm still doing my whole act.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And then... How do you wave? The sound goes out and they can't hear me. Wait, in on the microphone or in your head? On the microphone. Okay. Oh, in the microphone. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And all of a sudden, they're like, the sounds out, the sounds out. And so they couldn't hear me. And then I'm like, fucking what to do. And it was a big show. There was like 4,000 people there. Holy shit. And I go, I just started to sing the national anthem.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Sure. That was my go-to. I just started to sing the national anthem. And the whole crowd sang the national anthem with me. And somehow I remembered all of the words to the national anthem. Oh, no. Please don't stop the music That is crazy
Starting point is 00:14:00 Because I was fucking High as a kite It just came back to me Have you saying it before somewhere? I did it at a Dodger game Yeah And this is after the Dodger game So it was fresh in your recall reserves
Starting point is 00:14:12 I guess so Well when Adam gets super stoned He retreats into the most patriotic person Of all time Yeah That is his true self Is Captain America That is me
Starting point is 00:14:23 Chris Evans step out Is it Chris Evans? You know it really sucks and it bothers me that when you see now someone with like an American flag shirt or a hat, it no longer just means patriotic. It means like they're super pro ice. Yeah, yeah. I'm a dude.
Starting point is 00:14:41 You know what I mean? You can't just rock an American flag. And by the way, I love American flags. Thank you. You've seen my place in L.A. It has a giant 9 by 13 American flag. It's a American flag rap, isn't it? Your house?
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah. You got it wrapped by the fucking Orange Coast shoppers guys. It's a 9 by 13 American flag. I love American flags in America. Yeah. I wanted to hang one in my front yard. And I think I found one in our garage. Well, you can hang a flag.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I have one hanging out there. Yeah. Yeah. And I think I think I'm going to. Okay. Yeah. And then I'm also going to put like an NRA sticker in the window too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Just let them know. Just so people don't like roll up. to the crib. I'm like, I'll shoot you. That's actually really smart. What a trash. That's really smart. Oh, definitely get the little dormant that says like nothing in this house is worth dying for. That one's really good. That's a good one. That's a really good. And then it's like a hand with a gun. It's fucking cool. That's a good one, dude. Yeah. How about go ahead take the package and make my day and then quote the next dirty hairy movie that should be made by Netflix?
Starting point is 00:15:54 I feel like that's a lot of. It's like a really long. It goes all. all the way from the door to the street. Yeah, I feel like that's too many words. I feel like they're just taking the package and going at that point. They're not going to stick around. No, because here's the thing. They're busy reading it. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I'm busy loading. I'm putting bullet after bullet into a... That's true. You have a home alone. It is weird that now, like... Which, by the way, I'm not against cops. I think, yeah, we should have police. When people were, like, defund the police, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:16:24 that seems crazy. We for sure need police. But now it's like... Go ahead and cook. It's patriotic or like cool to be super pro police. Huh. It's like the blue lines matter and all that shit. Lives.
Starting point is 00:16:38 What year is it? Lives. The blue line. Yeah, yeah. The blue line. I see the blue line everywhere. That's blue lives matter. But it's blue lives matter.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And the blue line is... The blue line is... Blake shows us because... Here you go. I'm just saying why did suddenly it become cool to be super pro cops? It's always been... cool. Did you miss like two years of the news?
Starting point is 00:17:01 They tried to abolish police. It's science. Yeah, man. And then the police had to go, hey, guess what? We kind of have a really difficult, weird job. Well, they for sure. Absolutely, there are some fucking morons who take advantage of what they're capable of and how they carry a fucking gun and they abuse their powers. But they had to be like, we're also out there kind of putting our lives in danger to keep the streets clean, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but still, you can't be, you can't be two pro cops.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Hey. Or two anti-cops. It's the challenge of society, Adam. It's the challenge of society. We can't all be one thing. We're a very, we're so divided. You have to really pick sides now, but. I was divided.
Starting point is 00:17:45 It's so annoying, dude. It's got to be a little bit of everything, guys. It's so annoying. You know what sucks? It's getting pulled over. Keep going, Blake. A little bit of everything. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Go ahead. You're getting pulled over. Getting pulled over. Oh, yeah. Guess what happened the other day to me? Oh, dear. Got pulled over. Goodbye.
Starting point is 00:18:00 What happened. Tell me what the violation was. Driving with your titty's out. Cumbaya. It was a speeding ticket, and guess what happened? You talked your way out of it. You said, got out of it, baby. You slurped.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Every time. Got out of it. How'd you do it? He just came up to me. He was like, why are you speeding? And I said, literally, I have no, no, I said, I have no good reason. I am sorry. I shouldn't be speeding like this.
Starting point is 00:18:22 This is my neighborhood. Please don't stop the music. I shouldn't be speeding like this. And he goes, well, we're going to let you off with the warning. You need another four inches. I'm like, all right, okay, great. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Must be nice. So I guess I, and then I said, Blue Lives Matter. And he's like, what? And I go, I don't know. I thought you would like for me to say that. We're done? Are we done here? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Are we done here? I don't know. Should I get a tattoo or something now? He's like, no, you're taking it too far. It was just, I'm just kind of doing a nice thing. But congrats. Every time I think of that, I think of Fargo, where he's like, or we could just take care of it right here in Brainer.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And he's like holding the money out of the wallet. And then the guy's like, yes. I don't remember Fargo that well. Rewatch Fargo, dude. Absolute banger. You know, I really like that show. Is that a show still around? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Shows not around anymore. Because the dude who made it is now making the aliens show. Did they only do like two seasons? No, Fargo had like four or five seasons. Yeah, Fargo rocked. All of them were like extraordinary. And then he decided to go make that alien show. Is anyone watching the alien show?
Starting point is 00:19:21 I have a few friends who are watching it. I don't know, but I heard it's out of this world. Yeah, they said it was really good. Okay. Don't give it. Yes, points. No. No.
Starting point is 00:19:30 What the fuck are we doing now? That gets points. Well, it was a pun. The fuck are we doing, dude. It was a pun of sorts. Adam, come on, just give that show some space. Yes, points. Look, I understand if it's not in your orbit.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Oh. Yes, points. This is a funny podcast, though. But I did, no, but I did a really funny, dude. But they did a. they did, like, um, were they interview people on entertainment tonight or E.T.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yes, points! I hate this. Did you like how I reset, though, and you guys thought I was moving? No, I knew you were coming back. I didn't. I saw the twinkle in your eyes. Oh, boy. You knew? That makes you, Mac, and me. No. Yeah, don't give that one to him.
Starting point is 00:20:17 No. Yeah, don't give that to it. Oh, do you got... Gumaya. I don't know if any of you are noticing at home, my, my, my... poor camera quality. I am in... Yeah, you guys, when you travel, why don't you just take the camera with?
Starting point is 00:20:30 I didn't want to say. Just take the camera with. Hey, Adam, when you travel and bring a camera with, let me know. Yeah, man. I will. I'm going to. Yeah, just let me know. Just let me know.
Starting point is 00:20:39 And you won't even know because the camera will be set up and it'll look fresh and good. I'm asking you to let me know. And I will. I'm pretty excited. I hope you guys are going to let me eat on air because I have a very special...
Starting point is 00:20:52 Yo, do you have a... plastic bag in camera? What's happening? In frame. We're on Netflix now. You've got to treat it with respect. Okay. Cheese zombies.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Okay. Patty, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I have in my hands. What is it? Patty what? Patty's original. Patty's original. Cheese zombie.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Concord California. This is what it's all about, gentlemen. Okay. And I have a cheese zombie in my hand. And would you describe what that is? So here's the deal. For you guys who don't know, like... Yeah, which is everyone.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Everyone. Where I grew up in Concord. At school, there were these things called cheese zombies, which are basically buns. I'm gonna go take a show. Filled with, like, American cheese in the middle. And a jalapeno. We read the... Well, that's a new flavor.
Starting point is 00:21:42 It was just me and cheese. It's basically our runs up, right? But... What kind of meat? What kind of meat? How's the meat? What is the... Now you can get meat in them, but the original from school was no...
Starting point is 00:21:53 meat is just cheese in a bun. Oh, okay. I like that. But here's the deal. Now they have brick and mortar places. Okay. One is Patty's original. So this is first time talking. Dude, I was about to say that. Why is talking so difficult
Starting point is 00:22:09 for you sometimes? When this is what we do professionally. I've had 40 milligrams of weed. I get it. Because this is forever. He wants to do it right because this is forever. Patti's original is one of them, but then there's another guy who claims he made up cheese zombies and his story is called Rob Zombies.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Cheese Zombies. Oh, awful. Does Rob Zombie sign off on this? Not that I know of. But this is a Paddy's original. I am not okay with that. This is a Paddy's original. Ma'am. Cheese Zombies, so shout out Concord, California. Actually, that looks pretty good. So you're Patty's over Rob's? I've never been to Rob's, but Paddies is closest to my parents' house, so I'm rolling with Paddy's. And you're obviously in a spare bedroom of your mom's house. Yes. And what is the artwork? Her puzzle room. This is her puzzling room. Oh, shit. Damn. Okay. Stack it. That's serious. You're a big puzzler yourself. Is that a puzzle behind you? Is that puzzle pieces?
Starting point is 00:23:04 No, I believe that is probably some artwork picked up from like Hobby Lobby. Oh my God. Jesus. Dude, we're on Netflix. Come on. Jesus Christ. Why hasn't a woman formally participated in a Formula One race weekend in over a decade? Think about how many skills they have to develop at such a young age. What can we learn from all of the new F1 romance novels suddenly popping up every year? He still smelled of podium champagne and expensive friction. And how did a 2023 event called Wagageddon change the paddock forever? That day is just seared into my memory.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I'm culture writer and F1 expert Lily Herman, and these are just a few of the questions I'm tackling on no grip. a Formula One culture podcast that dives into the under-explored pockets of the sport. In each episode, a different guest and I will go deeper into the wacky mishap, scandals and sagas, both on the track and far away from it, that have made F1 a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no grip on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Lori Siegel, a longtime tech journalist. And consider my new podcast, mostly human, your bridge to the future. Anyone can now be an entrepreneur, anyone can build an app, and it's very empowering.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Each week, I'll speak to the people building that future, and we're going to break down what all of this innovation actually means for you. What I come to realize is that when people think that they're dating these AI companion, they're actually dating the companies that create this. We're experiencing one of the greatest tech accelerations in human history, and let's be honest, that can be messy. There's no playbook for what to do when an AI model hallucinates a story about you. But it's my belief that we should all benefit from this moment. Mostly Human will show you how. My goal is to give you the playbook, so you can benefit. The reason I say agency is because if we can give power back to people,
Starting point is 00:25:11 then I think that's probably the best thing we can do for your mental health. Listen to Mostly Human on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Noah Kahn, the singer-songwriter behind the multi-platinum global hit, Stick Season, and one of the biggest voices in music today. Noah opens up about the pressure that followed his rapid success,
Starting point is 00:25:38 his struggles with mental health and body image, and the fear of starting again after such a defining moment in his career. It's easy to look at somebody and be like, your life must be so sick. Man, you have no clue. talking about the mental illness stuff. It used to be this thing that I was ashamed of. I'm just now trying to unwind this idea
Starting point is 00:25:57 that I have to be unhealthy physically or in pain in some emotional way in my life to create good music. If someone says that I did a good job, I'm like, yeah, I'm good. Someone says that I suck. I'm like, I suck. Getting to talk about this is not common for me.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Right now I need it more than ever. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leveh, Mavis Staples,
Starting point is 00:26:45 Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name. And this season, I've sat down with Alessia Cara, Mara Glockland, John Legend, and more. Check out my new episode with Josh Grobin. You related to the Phantom at that point. Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Share each day with me each night, each morning. Say you love me. You know I... So come hang out with us in the studio and listen to playing along on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts. or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2023,
Starting point is 00:27:26 former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in someone, correct? I doctored the test once.
Starting point is 00:27:45 It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, the Westby and Michael Marantini.
Starting point is 00:28:01 My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until Justice.
Starting point is 00:28:22 is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you don't mind, I'm going to just buy it into this cheese zombie. I would love to show you guys what's in the middle. Okay, so yeah, yeah, yeah. The fact that Netflix is paying for us for this. And look at that.
Starting point is 00:28:43 That is a cheese zombie. That seems like too much bread per cheat. Like, the ratio seems a little off. It's really good, dude. Well, I don't know. How moist is the bread? How good is the bread? How moist is the bread?
Starting point is 00:28:53 It's fantastic. Okay. Okay, that's not answering the question. Moist. It's like, we just wanted to. Imagine you're at Thanksgiving. It's a delicious Thanksgiving roll filled with delicious. Those are dry, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:29:06 Yeah. Is it dry or moist? Use your vocabulary here, Blake. He's going to be like, it's fucking slizzer for whatever the fucking Bay language. It's slizzards. Yeah, it slaps. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Dumb. No, food doesn't slap. Food doesn't slap. Dude, you're 42 years old. Blake, you're 42. Food doesn't slap. Food smacks. And this is smacking.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Yeah, you're 42. You know what smacks? All right. Ham's, baby. Oh, yeah. Everybody, put up what you're consuming right now. Adam. Fucking cherry.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Even you guys at home. Oh, delicious. Is that a zero cherry? Oh, yeah. Crack. Somebody was trying to tell me that they thought that Coke Zero and Diet Coke taste the same. That is utter bullshit.
Starting point is 00:29:55 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Coke Zero is infinitely better. It's a sweeter taste. It's superior. It's superior. As someone who's not... Diet Coke tastes bad. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:07 And Coke Zero just doesn't taste good. Oh, right. Okay. Okay. Like, Coke tastes good, but you can't drink it all the time because you don't want to die. Like, listen, if you're listening to this, stop. And all. Drinking Coke every day, you're going to die.
Starting point is 00:30:25 You're going to die. It's too good. I don't give a thought. I don't know. In my algorithm, there's a guy that always pops up. He's like, day in the life of a soda addict. Have you seen this fucking guy? No, that sounds terrible.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And he's like our age. Young, cool, still hip, still with it. Right. Loves geese or goose. Smacking and slapping. But has a young family. Has a young family and he's like, take the family to Disney World. So you know I.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I got to bring my sodas. And then it shows him, like, at a, like, Sam's Club. Everywhere he travels, he has to go to Sam's Club and buys six dozen cases of different sodas. Oh, my God! And then he's like, yeah, had 42 sodas today. What? How does he not have diabetes?
Starting point is 00:31:12 He will. He will. They're all Coke Zero and shit like that. What about his teeth? He'll die. What's his tooth game? I don't know what his tooth game. I mean, they look fine.
Starting point is 00:31:21 but it's absurd. I'm like, and he's like, I know this can't be good for my kidneys. And you're like, yeah, I honestly don't even know what the kidneys do, but you're right. It can't be good for them. The kidneys have questions. The kidneys are like, I'm sorry. Do we need to have another meeting? What is happening?
Starting point is 00:31:37 The kidneys clean everything, right? No, no, no. Or is that the liver. The kidneys are experiencing a lifestyle that they're just like, what, what are we doing? Yeah. Why are we doing this? They're like, why are we doing this? And the guys like, we're doing it.
Starting point is 00:31:49 So there's this thing called clicks. I'm on Instagram, I'm on TikTok. I'm getting clicks. Well, you're going to die. We're going to shut down. We're going to pick it. That's the liver talking. And the guy goes, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Worth it. Worth it. Worth it. Yeah, I'm providing for my family. Fuck out. He can't be making... He should just do like we did. Let a dog lick your butt hole for a job.
Starting point is 00:32:10 He can't be making enough money that it's worth it. There's no way. I mean... Hey, but we're talking about it. You know how like some of those only fan girls where they're like make their butthole wink? but they're making like $45 million a year and you're like... I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah, like... It is crazy. Who would be an example of that? I mean, isn't that what Bell Blue or Bonnie Blue? What's her name? Oh, yeah. What do you rail the thousand guys into that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I'm uneducated. Isn't her name Bonnie Blue? Isn't it Bonnie Blue? It is. It is. But the fact that you said a different name and you're like, Buffy Blue, buddy boo. Bitty Biddy B'ee.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I don't know. Is it Betty Boop? Is it Betty Boop? Is it Bonnie Blue? I don't know. I don't know who she is. That's the girl who, like, does it with, like, a lot of guys, right? She did it with a thousand guys in a day.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yeah, it's cool you call fucking does it because you're, what, in sixth grade? Well, I don't want to be crass. Yeah, true. That's one thing about, like... I'm trying to bring some cheese zombies to this network. I don't mean... Is this the female who mated with upwards of 1,000 mates? Yeah, she mates with, like, a thousand dudes or something.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Hey, Todd, give us her in. And I give us some stats on Bonnie Blue. We want to know some stats. But what are you saying about these people who just make this money and how crazy it is? I don't think we're still going to start talking about how she fucks. The juice has to be worth the squeeze, right? Literally. Is she or I don't, there's another OnlyFans girl that I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I don't know Only Fans, but there's one that made like 50 something. Dirt. Is it Jenny from the block? There's 50. She made like 50 something. million. Doing what? And I guess she doesn't do like hardcore stuff and you're like, what is that? Is that worth doing it then?
Starting point is 00:33:58 Let me just let me tell you this. Is that porno? $150 million? Dude, if you do if you make $50 million doing it for 12 months, everyone should be trying this. Everyone should be trying this. I like if Adams, what if Adam's new Netflix show instead of is it cake? Is it porno? And it's just him watching only thing. Assessing. going, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:22 She's playing violin naked. Wait, there is a dildo in the frame. Is it porn? The violin thing is a dildo. Is it porn? She keeps going back and forth and then like once into her mouth and then back onto the thing and like playing it. Her tongue flips out really quickly sometimes.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah, is it porn? Okay, so Bonnie Blue, her real name is Tia Bellinger. Oh. That's almost more porno than... That seems like a porno-y-old. name. Tia Bellinger, like a gun? Loose, butthole. Wow, Adams.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Blue Lives Matter. Wendy Winchester. Nice. You know, like, I don't know. Like, I feel like she could get like a little gun tattoo like right here, like a, like on a, like it's holstered. Tina Glock. I suck Glock. I know.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Oh, I suck Glock. Yeah. That's a great. That's worth a point. That's points. Well, she had sex with 100 and, or 1,000. 57 men in 12 hours last year making her the subject of months meeting attention, inspiring similar events by like several other girls.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Inspiring similar events. Yeah. Other girls are like, what's a similar event? 1,058. A similar event. Isn't this the like thing where like some mom went and like pulled her son out of line? She like heard about it and found out her son was there and went and like getting him out line and was like,
Starting point is 00:35:51 Reggie. With like a purse, old lady style. You gotta get out of that line. You have to get out of that line. Gotcha bitch. Unless you're number one. Even number one. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:36:01 No, no, no. You're on your flight back to her. That's honorable. You've landed in America already. Before she's even finished. Before she's done with a thousand. No, you know. You're like Elton John doing live aid.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I, you know what? You're back. I support her. I think she's cool. Okay, so she claims to earn up to 750,000 to 800,000 a month. Oh, my God. With some reports suggesting up to 2 million a month.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Everybody's coming. Just from her only fans. I mean... Who is this? This is Bonnie Blue? This is our girl, Bonnie Blue. Everybody's coming. I'm down for her. No, I mean...
Starting point is 00:36:39 I would stop. I would do it for a year. Because, like, there's two ways to look at it. There's two ways to look at it. Okay. Give us the one and two. Okay, let's hear. Do it for a year, because then... you're done and you've gotten the money.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Your body's in shambles. But if you think about it, the videos out there, like those live on forever. So you're, you are this person now. Yeah. So you might as well keep doing it and stacking the money. But I would just, I'd do it for a year. And then I would just do like real estate. I would just get into real estate.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Because the whole time they're thinking like, well, she might fuck me if I buy this house. You know what I mean? Like maybe. You're going to love this house. Super spacious backyard. You could fit up to 500 guys. I'm not saying she's there. I'm not saying she would, but that's what the guy would think if he's buying this house and is Bonnie Blue, and you're like, and it's a super expensive house.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I'm not, I'm saying like real estate like mini malls. Like she's buying mini malls. She's doing like, she's stacking paper here. Oh. Oh. It's science. Super spacious mini mall. You can fit up to 1,000 people.
Starting point is 00:37:46 You can fit up to 1,000 people. You could fit almost a thousand, 57 guys in there. You could fit 2,000 men with raging hard cocks. Yeah, I know. It's just really bad for your body, probably. Society in general that this is what's happening. It's the absolute worst. And what's the guy version of it?
Starting point is 00:38:05 Because it's not the Manistphere stuff. That's different. That's different than what this is. Those guys aren't making. Because they're not making shit. They're just like, have you seen the, there's like, influencer houses, but it's for sales bros. And they go around,
Starting point is 00:38:20 it's, I don't know why my algorithm feeds me this shit. Just because I find it so funny and fascinated. But it's just guys going around that are like, they're all like 19. And they're like, what's up to say your name and say how much you've, the highest you've made in one day.
Starting point is 00:38:36 And this is guys going like, and I made $1,400. And then like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, my name is Chadwick. And I made, $9,000. And then you're like, oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And then you turn around and see Bonnie Blue is like, bitch, I make that shitting on some guy's chest. I make $200 grand just like that. That's probably, those are good. Those are right. Those numbers are, yeah. Those are adding up. Here's my question.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Do you guys think, and people who are in, they know, are we in the manosphere? Do you think we are part of the manosphere? Us. Are we part of the manosphere? Good question. Okay, you guys are going to have, what defines that? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I think we are just on the, we're just on the peripheral. I think we're just on the outside. Peripheral. Peripheral. Dude, do I not say that word right? Peripheral. Peripheral? Peripheral.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Peripheral. Peripheral. Here's what I'll ask. Can you be self-aware? and be in the manosphere? I don't know too much about the manisphere, but can you be self-aware? Like, can you know?
Starting point is 00:39:51 Blake, you're not in it. Yeah. Out of my tea levels. He's like, how could I even know? I'm so manly and tough. I'll let you know right now. You're not in it, but. Because I think it takes an ignorance.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Like, it seems like the manosphere from what I've gathered are dudes who are drinking like guy poison. Yeah, I mean, for sure they're all idiots, But like, Guy poison? Yeah. Yeah, what does that mean? Like, jizz?
Starting point is 00:40:18 Like, come? And what are you saying? Well. And we're back in the ban for you. No, no, no, no, no, no. No. No. I was just saying, like, they're drinking some, like, man Kool-Aid, like a superiority.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I think so, Blake. I think so. I think you're on to something. Yeah, okay. Well, I think some of them know that they are, like, like Andrew Tate or whatever. That guy fucking, he knows that he. This is the Bonnie Blue of men. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Andrew Tater, whatever his name is. Actually, you may be right. Well, he kind of fell off. Who's the guy now who's... Fell off. He was trafficking people, dude. I don't know. Well, is he in prison?
Starting point is 00:40:55 That's called falling off. That's called falling off. No, when you go to prison, that's called falling. Falling off, bro. That's a hard fall off. Dude, it sucked when Jeffrey Dahmer fell off. They found all those bodies under his house and he fell off, dude. Dude, he fell off.
Starting point is 00:41:12 The Dahmer was sick for him. Big fall of. You still is sick. He's very sick. Demented. But he fell off. Demented even. Bro.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Fell. No, the clavicular is the guy now. Oh, yeah. I've just watched that interview with Channel 5. Yeah, I've been on. Look, dude, here's what's
Starting point is 00:41:31 fascinating to me. And I think that so much of what he says is kind of based in truth that we all know. I'm not, I'm not, he. Hang on. What? No, keep going.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Wow, dude. Okay, oh, you think he's a... A ludic. Burying himself. Hang on. Okay. I'm saying the things he drops about, like, how better-looking people
Starting point is 00:41:57 do better in society. Those are studies that have gone on forever. And so he's just talking about people glowing up. What's wild is that he's, for sure, just a spectrum kid with, like, zero humanity. Yeah. And you just see the, like, ones and zeros brainworking. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:42:13 this is how we get like concentration camps. Because this guy works his way up to the top and he's like, what if we just made them think they were going to take showers but they were going into gas chambers? Oh my God. Right, right. Like, he has that mentality where it's just like, well, this is the fastest way to kill people.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Right. You're like, sociopath. I was at the gym a few weeks ago. In the shower. Don't go to shower. I was at the gym. It's not a real gym. And I couldn't sleep. And I woke up at like five. am.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Uh-huh. And I was like, fuck, maybe I just go and work out before the family gets up. It's very man-stead. Full dad maneuver. Your looks maxing, got it. You know who else does that? John Travolta. I go there.
Starting point is 00:42:53 By the way, the gym was slammed. Oh, yeah. It was the busiest I'd ever seen it. And by the way, high school kids were in the gym, working out before they went to school. Jesus. And these like little broccoli-haired boys, and they were talking about look maxing. And I interjected. Looks max, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Looks maxing? Yeah. And I go... I'm very particular about it. I'm like, what's that? And they told me all about clavicular. And they're like, yeah, he's sort of sick, bro. And I'm like, what's that?
Starting point is 00:43:26 And they're like, yeah, no, he like fucking has it all figured out. He literally smashes his face with a hammer. And then the bones, they grow back sharper. I saw that. So he looks hotter. And it like literally works, bro. And I'm like, oh, no. I saw that.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I don't know, dude. We're doomed. By the way, these kids are the dumbest, like jock beach kids imaginable. There's other kids that I've seen at the gym that seem perfectly normal and have their head on straight. But these kids are fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And they are following this guy thinking he's the shit and they're going to smash their faces with hammers. Well, is it also a thing? Do you guys? Yeah, go ahead. I mean, like everybody's kind of getting dumber. So then I feel like dumb people are following even dumber leaders and we're becoming just a really dumb place.
Starting point is 00:44:19 That's just how it all ends. It started with us. We are the top of the manosphere. We are the sun in which the manosphere orbits. No, I don't think we're in the manosphere. I really don't. We're like barrage sphere. I think we are manosphere adjacent.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I think something to go back to like our era, I feel like, something like entourage is more Manusphere than we were. And I think we made like an effort to not even like an effort. I think our just personalities sensibilities. Our sensibilities, our nests just never
Starting point is 00:44:56 lent us to be like, I guess these guys ended up fucking 10 chicks in one night and that's the end of the episode. Well it's just pure chauvinism isn't it? Even though we could have and people would have been like this show rocks. Yeah, they would have said it's awesome. It's just like a chauvinism rebrand.
Starting point is 00:45:13 We made a point to like never hook up with anyone and our characters really were sort of losers, but lovable. And maybe we got this note and maybe we didn't, I'm not going to say, but maybe someone told us to stop making it so gay.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Maybe we got that. Maybe we didn't. Maybe we didn't. I don't want to have anybody, but maybe we got that no. It's possible that they were like, and by the way, remember people, people in the streets. We're telling us that. Remember that guy? I think we're in Philly. He's like, man, love the show. But it's so, he's like, quit
Starting point is 00:45:49 doing all that gay shit. I'm not gay no more. Yeah, and he's like, that last episode was so fucking gay. And we're like, because looks maxing is as straight as it gets. That's to me, that's the whole thing is that I'm like, look, gay has many spectrums of what it means.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Of course. But looks maxing is kind of on the spectrum. I mean, that's That's very far on the spectrum. We're old and we're acting like this is new. You're talking about just people trying to look their best. I'm not gay no more. But this dude is doing meth and steroids.
Starting point is 00:46:23 And he's in high school and he's vlogging it or what the fuck ever they call streaming it. And this guy is smashing his face with hammers to look. Dude, I mean, I just like would be. But we manscaped. We shaved our nuts. Ders would pop his collar and shit. Yeah, you know. Yeah, we wore two collars.
Starting point is 00:46:40 That's the same. You did? You did? Yeah. Did you chew that gum that, like, is really hard to chew that makes your, like, jaw, like, stronger? I didn't, but I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I think that's, I think that's as far as you should go as far as trying to, like, chisel, chisel your jaw. But you guys wash your face every fucking day. Hey, Blake, you don't need to chisel your jaw.
Starting point is 00:46:59 You have a cromagum jaw. Crazy. Okay. If I looks maxed, I would be king man. Dude, your version of looks maxing is just not drinking for, like, two weeks. And that would be just drinking juice. It's just like drinking water and staying hydrated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Thank you. What have you done? You're alive. Oh my God. Unbelievable. You're a fucking disaster, my guy. I drank a glass of water. Oh, my God.
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Starting point is 00:52:49 I got to dive deeper into the Manosphere, because I know there's like a documentary and all that, and I've really... I just watched the documentary, too. The documentary is actually kind of funny. I want to watch it, but it's like one of those that at night, I usually, you know, during the day, you don't have a lot of time to, like watch TV and stuff. Because you're hustling, you're grinding, like a man shows. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Well, it's also like I have a kid and, you know, you just feel weird watching your show when you're... And you got to raise him right. You got it. Yeah. So I haven't watched it. Every night I'm like trying to pitch it to Chloe. I'm like, hey, maybe we watch this.
Starting point is 00:53:21 She's like, I don't want to fucking watch this manosphere document. That seems like a nightmare. I'm like, yeah. She will not enjoy it. Yeah. But if you had a 10 or 12 year old, I think that it would be like beneficial to be like, just to go, oh, this is what our son could potentially be entering into if he gets surrounded by a bunch of fucking losers.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I'm a dude. Isn't that wild? Because the whole thing is like, it's. Here's the deal. Look, society generally has not that much depth, right? Sure. This is what we see with social media. You're saying now that it's a very, like, shallow...
Starting point is 00:53:59 Society has always been this. But now, because of social media and people living on there, there's not that much depth to social media, right? Yes. Like, okay. And so now we're just zeroing in on these people who have no depth and people who have no depth are following these people with no depth
Starting point is 00:54:18 and now becomes the majority of people and then it's like well god damn society is just fucking like super paper thin now well it's also like I mean these are also people who are in a way like philosophers but they're not drawing from
Starting point is 00:54:34 anybody from the past like I I wish maybe I need to watch that whole interview but like who do these people emulate who are there who are there like who are they like who are they heroes. Who are they like? Andrew Tate? What do you mean? Listen, clavicular? Yeah, but like,
Starting point is 00:54:52 clavicular's whole thing is like he's not emulating people. He's, he's a ones and zeros spectrum dude who's going, this is how society works. If you're better looking, you make more money. If you make more money, you can, you have a wider range of mates that you can choose from based on society. So like, he's not saying, I want to be this thing. He's going, this is the science. get a hammer out boys and start hitting the tanning salon. Say it. And he's not even... And by the way, that's what I'm saying is it's like,
Starting point is 00:55:22 it's all about looks and money, which we all know are important at the base level. But they aren't the key to happiness. At the base level, but yeah. They don't fulfill you. But they do fulfill these people. And that's what gets so frustrating is that everybody who has any sort of depth,
Starting point is 00:55:39 not even me, people who are like based their lives on having a little more depth, right? They go, this is so stupid. But everyone without depth goes, oh, yeah, what do you fucking sit around, philosophize? Like, they don't care because the bottom line as animals is you got to be able to provide and be hot. Yeah. To find your mate. Well, in that case, just get in line for Bonnie Blue and fucking have a good old time, man.
Starting point is 00:56:05 I guess I'm team clavicular. Look, that's what I'm saying. The things he's saying aren't wrong. They're just void of humanity. Look. So he's like, why would I go? on a date if I didn't stream it and try and like
Starting point is 00:56:17 capitalize on the situation and it's like well don't be a total loser who streams everything. He seems to kind of have a soul like Andrew Tate I think is actually a bad person Andrew Tate is evil The Clavicular has no humanity Yeah I think he's just kind of
Starting point is 00:56:33 He's a robot. Yeah he's just trying to like make an equation for life right? He's like breaking it down into this plus this equals this Right but he's such a young man. He hasn't even experienced much life. I mean, the whole interview is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:56:48 That's the crazy thing because he's like, what, like 19 or 20? Yeah. How old was he? I guess he's in bars. Like, imagine if Adam was 19 and he was coming up with a way to tell other kids how to live life. It would involve like hacky sack. Yeah. You have to hacky sack.
Starting point is 00:57:05 And by the way, that's the whole thing is that that's who's rising to the top. You have to. Well, don't put me into clavicular's camp, by the, the way. You knew me when I was 18. I was not like that. I know, but if that kid was, was, had social media and he was. And you were, like, had followers. Like, imagine you at 19 and you actually, like, got, fucking went viral and became famous, like, just being you. Maybe. It feeds into it. You say one thing and people go, yeah, that's it. And you go, again, back to the clicks. Am I doing this for the I guess now because you used to want to, like I wanted to be a comedian and an actor.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Right. Those were my goals. But now the goal is just to be famous on the internet. Right. For kids. Yes. It's a different goal. And make money.
Starting point is 00:57:54 It's like to be YouTubers or streamers and make money. And for me, it was never about, I mean, the money was like that comes with. That's fucking rad. Yeah. That comes with being a successful actor or comedian. but it wasn't like, I have to get the money. That was like another thing that comes with it, which would be sick. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:15 The cooler thing would be like people saying, that is the funniest guy ever, not like, that is the richest guy ever. Yeah. You see that guy over there behind 7-Eleven eating out of that old pizza box? He's the funniest guy ever. He might die tonight. Yeah, but he also's funny. He's been hitting his face with hammers. He might hit himself in the face with a hammer.
Starting point is 00:58:37 But he's got great advice. for the youth of America. I tried to give him $20. He said, keep it. And then he did this. And he called it his comedy routine. I'm a fucking idiot. Oh, see.
Starting point is 00:58:51 No, but of course. Can you see? There it is. And what? I don't even know the words. I know there's O-apostrophe ER at some point. It's O-er. I know, but I don't even know what that means.
Starting point is 00:59:04 It's over. What's over? Or. Or means over? It's o'er. I think. What part... Okay, let's break it down.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I like to pivot from Manosphere to breaking down the national anthem. By the way, everyone in the Manosphere is like, you don't know the fucking Star Spangled Banner or whatever. No, they don't care. They don't care.
Starting point is 00:59:24 We grew up saying the Pledge of Allegiance every morning in my class, all right? You got to start low. They don't do that. Oh, see. Sure. Can you see... Okay, now, and who's Jose?
Starting point is 00:59:36 Are we doing it or do the words? He's re-in-it. Early light. You don't have to say. What's so proudly we had the twilight's last gleaming. Cumbaya. Who's brought stripes and bright songs? I'm going to come.
Starting point is 00:59:59 No, you don't go high there. You don't go high there, right? Broad stripes and bright stars. Listen, we're talking with the flag now. Obviously. That blue line. And the blue line. And the blue line.
Starting point is 01:00:09 O'er the ramparts we watched. We're so gallantly streaming. So what is Oar? No one knows. Where was it again? This is Francis Scott Key. Wait, he's old school. And is a rampart a dick?
Starting point is 01:00:23 Francis Scott Key was in the manosphere. Who? O'er the ramparts we watched. The person who wrote the national anthem, was it Francis Scott Key? Yeah, Scott Key. Yeah, that's right. I knew that. That's right.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Durs, you didn't know that? You were so dumb. I don't know anything about this. Wait, what was the or? Can you read the sentence with the or or or or? Ramparts. He's talking about ramparts, dude. Tell me about your ramparts.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Or the ramparts. I think I clicked out of it, dude. Oh, fuck. It seemed like it wasn't going anywhere. Here it is. Over the O apostrophe ER, the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming, question mark. So. Question.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Question mark. There ain't no question marks in the national anthem. That to me is saying, or the ramparts, the explosions we watched, were they gallantly streaming? I don't know. And the rockets were glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof of the night that our flag was still there. So the flag was there. And that's dope. The explosions were happening.
Starting point is 01:01:22 So they're saying that there was like war going on and like the light of the explosions lit the flag. And they were like, it's still there. And they're like, yo. It's still there. It gave proof. It gave proof. Has anyone seen the flag? Could you light an explosion?
Starting point is 01:01:37 There it is. That our flag was still there. Oh, say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave? That's the hardest line. I don't give a hurt. The land of the free and the home of the brave. It is a banger. It is a banger.
Starting point is 01:01:52 But if we don't know what or man... It falls apart for me. Who gets this shit? It's an old... Or is over. It doesn't matter. I know. But there's a lot of old things that I want to know what they meant.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I'm pissed now. No, you don't want to know shit about... It's when do you want to know anything about history? Anders. Like Bonnie Blue, that happened months ago. I still want to know about it. I don't know that it's $1,057 or whatever. That's our history.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Yeah, she was O'R there. She was O'R there for sure. I was O'R there in line. She's our Rosie the Riveter. I was over there in line for Bonnie Blue the other day. Francis Scott Key. So, Isaac is saying, Ower is a poetic literary or old-fashioned contraction of the word over.
Starting point is 01:02:39 That's what I said So it's just like old school You guys So this was like Blake back to you This is kind of fizz This is slang Yes
Starting point is 01:02:51 This is Timuetta I believe that The Bay Area did Burst our nation Or is some fucking fizz In the national anthem I don't think people know that Because everyone's asking for a new one
Starting point is 01:03:02 They're like this one's old and played out Let's get a new one Yeah the thong song I don't think they realize That the oar hits so hard It does I can't wait for the aliens to come down and they just think E40 is our leader. He is. He's the ambassador of the Bay.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Take me to your dealer. Admittedly, I was pretty stoked when I ran into him, both at the Super Bowl and at the slam dunk contest. It was pretty cool. I've never spent quality time with E40, and that is one thing that I am waiting. He seemed perfectly nice. He is. He's a very nice person. I've got a really bro-down. You know who was really nice?
Starting point is 01:03:40 Who I sat right next to? Two chains. Oh, yeah. Two chains. He's funny, too. He's got a great... And not to give him a hard time. He had way more than two chains on.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Okay. Actually, no chains. He was wearing no chains. He had no chains. No chains. That's ridiculous. He had him maybe tucked. He definitely had chains.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Maybe tucked, but he wasn't flossinging him. That's crazy. Surprising because Chris Tucker was out there fucking blinging. Good, good. wearing the loudest jacket you could possibly wear so jealous, dude. Yeah, I love Chris Tuffier. Hey guys, this segment of Takebacks Apologies and Epic Slams are brought to you by Simple Mills. Is it me or do we have absolutely no tapebacks or apologies for this episode?
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Starting point is 01:04:56 And that's Simple Mills. Find Simple Mills at your grocery store now. Oh man, God damn. Let's see. Any tapebacks regarding clavicular and how he's kind of speaking truth to power? I don't know. By the way, by the way, I want the cops to know that I stand with you. What?
Starting point is 01:05:18 I like cops. I'm not saying I dislike cops. I'm just saying when did it get cool to suddenly love cops? Right. Like why now it's like you have to fucking proclaim your love of. cops all the time when I'm like, yeah, I like cops, just fine. Adam, the way you say this makes me think that there were two years of America that happened that you were like...
Starting point is 01:05:41 I ain't watching. Maybe it was when you were doing bumper in Berlin, I think. I think it was when you were doing bumper in Berlin that people were like, on the streets going, we don't need police, and then people who had police in their family or whatever were like, actually, we provide a service. And so those people, they put the sticker on the car and it's just still on the car. Yeah, I might have been in Germany. I might have been in Germany.
Starting point is 01:06:04 The real shit is when you see people driving a truck with like the broomstick flags going off the back. That should be us. Which by the way, I see down here. I see that. And then I also see the signs in the yard still. And I'm like... Or the rockets red clear.
Starting point is 01:06:20 And then they're like, and I also support the fire department. You're like, no shit. Right. The fuck doesn't support the fire department. I also support the people who make sandwich is that subway, bro. Yeah, like a sandwich artist. I thought you were going to say the, what do they call, the poison bread?
Starting point is 01:06:38 What do they call those things? Cheese zombies. Please don't shit on my culture. Please don't shit on my culture. I'm not. I just remember there was a name that was deadly. And you can have a take back right now. It's not poison bread.
Starting point is 01:06:50 It's cheese zombies. I'm sorry. Thank you. I apologize. I think that Rob's zombies is fucking diabolically corny. Yeah, that's not cool. Don't do that. I didn't say that.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Unless. That's not cool. I'm saying it. Unless. Rob is involved. Rob Zombie himself signs off. Yep. Okay?
Starting point is 01:07:09 I got the same, I'll take the same umbrage with yeasty boys in Los Angeles. Oh. Yeah. I hear you guys make wonderful sandwiches and bagels.
Starting point is 01:07:20 But I find it absolutely diabolically corny that you named your shit Yeasty boys because I also know the Beastie boys are not affiliated you stole the fucking font from Eric Hayes
Starting point is 01:07:34 and then he had to sue you guys Is that right? You lose! Yeah, the dude who does all the old check your head like fonts. So like, just come up with your own name. Okay. Just come up with your own name.
Starting point is 01:07:45 I know you're a big Beastie Boys fan and I like the Beastie Boys. I'm not a Beastie Boys head like Ders is. I never even thought about the Beastie Boys when I saw the Beastie Boys. It never even came in my head. I was just like, yeah, yeasty boys. Like their yeasty sandwich boy,
Starting point is 01:08:07 their boys must be a couple guys that own the sandwich place. It never even dawned on me that it was a Beastie Boys reference. It's a bagel. Even worse. That's crazy. And it's because I'm part of the Manosphere and I am so good. And shout out to the Yeasty Boys. Not interested in your bagels.
Starting point is 01:08:25 It's a bagel. And anyone else who goes there and supports this corny. Here's a quick question. Okay. Out of the three of us, who is the most in the manosphere?
Starting point is 01:08:37 Adam, I mean... Remember how Blake said do the people in the mannosphere have any self-awareness? Yeah. You're living that right now.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Yeah, you might. By even asking that question. You... You're proving the point. Zero takebacks on this. Who of us is the most in the manuscript? Who of us?
Starting point is 01:08:55 Who of us? You're like a self-recllaimed watch collector. Yeah. I'm not a... You said you're a watch guy. I do like watches. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Is that a man... Are you a watch guy? That manisphere? Watch guy is big time mannisphere. I guess I'm a guy who likes watches. Yeah. Okay. But are you a watch guy?
Starting point is 01:09:11 Is watch guys manasphere? I feel like I've heard you say I'm a watch guy. A thousand percent. Watch guys are manosphere. I don't think that that's... A thousand percent. Really? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:09:22 I disagree. It's science. That's because you're in the manister. You don't know anybody. You have no clue. Okay. Yeah. Maybe you're right.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Maybe you're right. People who like watches are not in the manosphere. People who are watch guys. Watch guys are Manosphere. Hmm. That's a... Well, I like watches. I'm not a watch guy.
Starting point is 01:09:39 I feel like I've heard you say I'm a watch guy. Okay. Are guys that collect shoes? Are they Manosphere? I would say guys who collect Jordans are in the Manosphere. Whoa. So it's a collection thing. If you collect new balances, you are decidedly opting out.
Starting point is 01:09:58 out of the manosphere or anything cool. Okay. No. New Balance, by the way, is on right now. Yeah, yeah. New balance is a movement. And so maybe that's... So maybe you might be in the manosphere.
Starting point is 01:10:10 What was I wearing in 2004 when I met you guys? Sure, but you might have started... All I had to hear was sure butt. Yep. Have I always had... Sure, but... A nice watch since you've known me. You've had a watch, and you are now a watch guy.
Starting point is 01:10:28 I've always liked watches even since I was a kid. Adam, we're trying to save you. I've watched you slip into the manned slowly. But I think it's you. Okay, well, I probably would agree. It's probably the most of me, yeah. Well, according to my algorithm,
Starting point is 01:10:45 my algorithm is hilarious, dude. I'm like, my God. They're feeding me all this shit. What's the one? Do you, I do not interested. If there's something that I'm like, I don't want to see more of this. Like, is there an example of something that I should do that more?
Starting point is 01:11:00 I've hit that you're not interested in. I've never even known that that's an option. Yeah. I don't even... Yeah, you just touch it and then it pops up and it's like... On Instagram? Yeah, you just touch the thing. Yeah, you can kind of...
Starting point is 01:11:11 You can kind of get rid of stuff you don't want to... See? By the way... Just removed... The cheese zombies coming up. She's on. ...removed Instagram from... Your phone?
Starting point is 01:11:22 My phone. I have to, like, dig into my phone to, like, pull it up so that I can, like, post... Oh, that... New Heights. The New Heights guys have us on. Oh, yeah. Very man. Finally, that's us. That was great. That was the, and the New Heights guys are the Kelsey brothers, people that don't know. Yeah. That is Travis and Jason Kelsey. And they were football players. Yes, fun guys. R. One R, one R. One R. One R. Yes. The other one is aren't. Travis is back. But, like, I have it on my phone somewhere to post, like, repost that and to post our podcast stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:55 but I'm kind of done looking. That's good, dude. I think that's good for the brain. I'm like, what am I looking at? I also think you're old. You're like old. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:06 I think we're all getting old to where like it doesn't even. I mean, Blake is to look. Who are we kidding? Blake is on the internet. I've been on the whole time. 23 hours a day. You guys are potting, but I'm over here. I know.
Starting point is 01:12:19 I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. But I feel like Ders and I are getting old and just starting to go like, it doesn't matter. Because also like a month, not a month, a year ago, I muted almost everybody I follow.
Starting point is 01:12:32 That's a great call. Just about everybody. Oh, that's a great call. Because I don't want to know what's going on your life. I'll call you or text you and be like, what's up? Well, also, I've said this before. You know what's... But like if I just see it on the feed, I feel like I'm less likely to reach out and wonder how someone is if I just see the feed.
Starting point is 01:12:49 But I'd like running into someone and then being like, oh, dude, that fucking vacation you went on. looks sick and then talking about it. And Adam, that's what they want. That's what they want. So mission accomplished. You guys are missing out on the best day of Instagram. It's April Fool's. There's so much funny stuff happening on the internet today.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Okay. But this podcast isn't airing on April Fool's. You fucking idiot. I know. But today is April Fool's today. You fucking idiot. And I would like to say. Now people are going to realize that we aren't even friends.
Starting point is 01:13:21 I would like to say, happy birthday mom. Happy birthday mom. Oh, it's your mom. birthday? Yes, and that's why I'm here. Ah, happy birthday. That's why I'm here and that's another episode of
Starting point is 01:13:34 this is important. I'm not in the manisphere, dude. I'm not. I'm not, dude. I'm not in the manisphere. I think we all are.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Wait, why did you say that on the pod then? I'm saving. We're still on. We got you, Blake. Got you, bitch. We got you, bitch. I think we all are. No, I don't know what the Manisphere is. I've got to look into it. I've been...
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