This Is Important - Ep 54: Celebrities Rock! (But Their Bands Don’t)

Episode Date: September 14, 2021

Today, this is what's important:ASMR, blood merch, Kyle continuing to eat fish, God songs, Hawaii time, nuts, family vacations, cigarettes, living in a simulation, movies, actors with bands, concerts,... and more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm David Eagleman. I have a new podcast called Inner Cosmos on iHeart. I'm going to explore the relationship between our brains and our experiences by tackling unusual questions like, can we create new senses for humans? So join me weekly to uncover how your brain steers your behavior, your perception, and your reality. Listen to Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last season, millions tuned into the Betrayal podcast to hear a shocking story of deception. I'm Andrea Gunning, and now we're sharing an all-new story of betrayal. Ashley Lytton was helping her husband set up a business Venmo account when she discovered
Starting point is 00:00:47 a terrible secret. I saw it in a folder, and I opened it. What the hell did I just see? Listen to season two of Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Between April 1971 and September 1972, six young black girls were snatched off the streets in Washington, D.C. This child was laying on the side of the road. The person said, I murdered your daughter. The killer believed that he may have been seen. I will admit the others when you catch me if you can. Signed Freeway Phantom. Listen to Freeway Phantom on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to This Is Important, a production of iHeart Radio, the show where we only talk about
Starting point is 00:01:40 what's obviously most crucially integral to the fabric of our very nature. Today, we talk about if I had a little black box to keep my Satan in. Everyone's jizzing on everything. It's fine. I would smash his fucking face and beat his ass and rip his fucking dick off. This weekend at X-Talberts, ladies night only. Here we go. Oh, I guess we're here. And we're back. It's the bass. It's the bass. We should do one where we start very quiet, just like not how we normally start. Just right.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Yeah. Yeah. There's no yelling. There's no like, let's go. No horns. Okay. All right. And we're here. Okay. And we're here today. How are you doing? Good to see everybody. Great to see you as well. Hello, ASMR. Is that what it is called? ASMR. Should we tickle some ears? Wait, have you guys seen these videos? Where like the microphone has like an ear on it? I have seen that where it's an actual ear. It's like a whisper into it. They like suck on the ear and the mic picks up all the noises.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I have seen this. This is amazing. This is this is like an ASMR. What is it? ASMR? What is it? Yeah, it stands for audio sexual motherfuckers. Sexual motherfuckers. Return to that. Really out here. Return to normalcy. Yeah. Really out here. Really out here. But like there's like a audio sexual motherfuckers really out here. There's like a rubber ear that you attach to the microphone and these people are sucking on it and getting paid. This world we're living in is wild. It's true.
Starting point is 00:03:27 There's what I'm talking about guys. When we go on the live tour, finally, if we ever do that, we got to be doing some really cool stuff like that. That's cool merch. If we have this is important ears, whatever people want to whisper in and we mold it after our actual ears or buttholes. Well, that seems dope. I mean, that just feels like a really cool move for even like a musical performer to pull up with like the ear microphone and be screaming into it. For sure. You could definitely see like the flaming lips. That's tight. Who's going to do that first? Wayne Coyne. Wayne Coyne. Yeah. Wayne Coyne is already doing it. Lil Nas X.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Lil Nas X. Yeah. Lil Nas X. Lil Nas X will be the first to do everything. He is on a tear. I feel the weekend is could get involved with that. Okay. Yep. My boy Todd Strauss Shulson just did a Lil Nas X music video. Yeah. Can we talk about Lil Nas X because he did something like Nahi Tweakin, right? Like you guys know about this Nahi Tweakin. Okay. Go Kyle. I love this from here. I have a very interesting story. What does this mean? I don't know what Nahi Tweakin means. I heard one of my buddies looked it up and he said it was something in response to like Tony
Starting point is 00:04:43 Hawk's blood board where he actually put like blood into the skateboard and then Lil Nas X was like not liquid death, a sponsor. Yeah. And he was like Nahi Tweakin. And so now I guess everybody just throws Nahi Tweakin in the comment sections. And it's fully blitzed of just Nahi Tweakin, Nahi Tweakin, Nahi Tweakin, Nahi Tweakin. So I haven't posted on Instagram in almost a year or so and I threw a... Nice dude. Are you Tweakin? I threw a photo up the other day and within 15 minutes I looked at it and I had eight Nahi Tweakens and I fucking thought I got doxed or something.
Starting point is 00:05:18 That's not what getting doxed is. Well you know what dox? Do you know what dox means? Dude I thought something had been hacked and like they were sending this weird message to me because I was like what the fuck is going on? Everybody's saying Nahi Tweakin. Right. So I straight up did another old man internet move and I deleted the photo. And I turned off... You pulled the ripcord? Yeah. I turned off my phone.
Starting point is 00:05:42 You got scared? I got so nervous that like something was happening to me that I deleted it. Were you high? Bro. Were you high for this? Yeah. Bro. What was going on? What do you think?
Starting point is 00:05:54 To quote the weekend? Were you high for this? Bro. Yeah. So you were Tweakin? Smoke weed every day. So wait. So you were Tweakin? It actually got me Tweakin. It's so true. You thought they knew? Yeah. So what was the photo that you were so scared of to post?
Starting point is 00:06:10 His address? Yeah. Your home address. Yeah. It was a photo of your child standing in front of your address of your home. That would have freaked me out too. I can't remember what it was. I got to scroll through. It might have been a picture of me with the Oakley's on from the bachelor party looking like Brad Hart. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Oh, looking. Okay. Okay. He's the bae. Doc's that, dude. Yeah. No. But let's talk about this because Lil Nas X, he put blood in the air pocket of like a Satan shoe like a few months ago, right?
Starting point is 00:06:40 A Nike. A Nike shoe. A Nike. It was not a Nike product, but he did it. Put out a bunch of them. You could buy them, which is fucking sick. Okay. Yeah. This is an artist. He's doing his thing and people went after him. They were like, you don't fuck with that. Tony Hawk is putting blood in the paint that goes on a skateboard and everyone's like, pretty rad.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yes. Got no, got no heat. Well, it was because that he put like Nike wasn't affiliated. I think that was the backlash, right? That it was like, he like bought a bunch of Nikes, did his own thing and resold them and then had like Satan like branding on it. Right. He brought in Satan.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Look, Nike was not stoked on it, but the backlash came from the public that was like, well, now you're fucking with Satan. We're not on that. Oh my God. Sure. Yeah. I think it's the Satan thing, the blood thing. I don't... Guys, hang on a second. That's some Halloween shit. That's not real. Satan's not real. Well, for sure. Yeah, I get that.
Starting point is 00:07:37 But some people do think Satan is real. Yeah. There's a, Satan has a vibe and they're basically just saying like, nah, we don't want the vibe of Satan. I agree. And I'm fucking with it. I do agree. Satan does have a vibe and... Satan's like a vibe.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Satan has a vibe. Yeah. The whole Satanic vibe is a thing, whether or not he's real or not. And that vibe is what? Not nice? Yo, you got to get the church ladies. Satan? Satan? Oh, I don't know. Satan?
Starting point is 00:08:06 Well, the thing that was upsetting me is throughout this whole entire mix up, no one was giving the greatest rock band of all time kiss its props, because they did it way first when they put their blood in the ink for their comic book. And nobody was talking about that. Can I tell you why no one was talking about that? Yeah! Absolutely. No one knows that factoid. Nobody knows that kiss made a comic book with their own blood?
Starting point is 00:08:33 No one knows kiss made a comic book. Are you sure it was kiss though? Are you sure? Because I thought this was Glenn Danzig that did this shit. No, Danzig used to fucking draw with his blood. No, it was the night... Everybody's putting blood on everything. Everyone's jizzing on everything. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Wait, what? What? Hold on, what's up? I say, yeah, for our tickets, yeah, for our tickets that we sell for our live shows, we jizz and we bleed on every ticket and then we sell them... Ew, bro. We Metallica reload? Nah. Yeah, we reload on them.
Starting point is 00:09:04 We went seven minutes and seven seconds without talking about jizz and here we are. Nah, he tweaking. I don't think I'm tweaking. I think we all just said how cool it is and it's a vibe. I think these are collector's items. I don't know if we go necessarily Satan. We just go like, hey, we're excreting. I'm allowed to say that your vibe is tweaking.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I agree. We're secreting fluids, right? Of life. Of life. Of life. Y'all secreting. Secreting? Do you secre...
Starting point is 00:09:29 You secreting. So I just got home for the first time in six months. I haven't been back to my house and this is the very first time I walked in. The fucking water pressure? Yep, I remember your water pressure. Unbelievable, dude. If you go away from your house, yeah, I turned the... It like hurts to take a shower.
Starting point is 00:09:50 It's like fucking cutting me as I'm trying to bathe myself. Is it? Because I've had a shower like this where like... Fucking thing sucks. When I shower, thank you. When I shower, I like to put my face in. It rinsed the soap off my face. I love to do that.
Starting point is 00:10:03 But I had a shower where I couldn't even put my face in it because it hurt too bad. Like it would get my eyeballs through the eyelid. Wow. Yeah. It poked you. I'm cupping the water and splashing it on my face because I don't want... Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I don't want to, you know, hurt the money maker. Hurt your face? Can you post... Will you post a video when this drops of you showering and just so people know your etiquette? I will. And I'm really sorry, man. I feel your pain.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And do I have to be bleeding and jizzing while this is happening or we're just going to go straight just nudity, just showering? Not at all. If you did that, you'd be tweaking. Yeah. You would be tweaking, my friend. You'd be screaming. You'd be tweaking.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Okay. All right. So that's a no then or... Right. That's fine. Your call. We'll leave it in your court. Do you?
Starting point is 00:10:44 We had dealer's choice. So the big thing, the big headline of returning home is that your water pressure is just off the charts hard. It's fucking with your face. Yeah, dude. But your Wi-Fi is a little chunking, by the way. Yeah, you definitely, definitely chunk off. Yeah, that's just living in the Hollywood Hills, man.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Oh, okay. Oh, really? Oh, cool. Okay. What do you mean? Wait, really? Well, this in this house, it's because I mean, you know how I'm like kind of like in the nook of the mountain?
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah, what's your street name address? Don't dox yourself, bro. Yeah, watch out. You're going to get dox quick. And I'm in like the nook of the mountain and they like carved out this little area for my house. And then the house was built in 1920s. So like it's fucking thick.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It's not like the plaster or whatever of houses now that it could just zap right through. So the fucking internet here just sucks every forever. And no matter what I do, it just sucks. Yeah. Well, I think it's like in 1928, they didn't have internet. Fuck it through. Well, it was beta.
Starting point is 00:11:51 That's a big part of this. Yeah, it was 1920. And yeah, I do believe it was before internet. I think internet hadn't even come out yet. 1920 for sure, man. 1920, no internet. I do know that as a fact, Jack. And Kyle, not trying to get you dox, Kyle, but like,
Starting point is 00:12:08 are you on island time right now? Yeah. Dude, I'm on island time. I'm on Maui, wowie. Hello, hello, baby. Talk about it. Uh, Hawaii rules like it's so good. It's the best.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I love it. The weather's fantastic. I went to a nice dinner last night, first nice dinner since like COVID. Okay. Did you tie the napkin around your neck? You're like, this is fancy. I'm tucking in and up here.
Starting point is 00:12:34 You better freaking believe it, dog. Actually, you know what I did? I went to mama's fish house on the North Shore, Maui. Wait a minute. You didn't eat salmon again, did you? Do you got a taste for a flesh now? I've been on a tear since the bachelor party. I have had.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah, you got a taste for it. It's back. Flesh. Also, you said haven't been to a nice dinner yet. Adam, I thought the dinner at your bachelor party was very nice. Shirts off, but very nice. Well, we weren't able to take our shirts off
Starting point is 00:13:05 just to let them know. You're being very formal. I got you. Yeah, right. Yeah. And I had, let's see here. So since the bachelor party, I've had salmon, I've had lobster, I've had ahi.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I have had morsel and some crab, bro. Some crab dungress. I'm pissed now. Welcome. That's just the ocean spider. Yeah, that's true. I love it. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So you're no longer a vegetarian. So you're back. I think I'm pesky. I'm a pesky guy. Okay, so are we switching up the aruguloid moniker to pesky little bastard? Pesky little buggers. The pesky buggers?
Starting point is 00:13:40 I like that. The pesky buggers. Keep the aruguloid, but this is the pesky season. Okay. I don't know, man. Oh, season of the pesky. I feel like we got to leave it up to the aruguloids because this is a betrayal.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I need to get a bunch of John Leguizamo the pest quotes and then we can switch it over to the pest. Pest? I'm saying pest. I know. Well, I think we go to the community. We ask the community what they think and they should decide.
Starting point is 00:14:09 The community should decide. And because the aruguloids, they don't they don't lord over the entire community. I think we ask the community and then they decide if he's the pesky buggers or not. I'm happy to have a sub following also. If you want to remain an aruguloid, all good. But if you want to join onto the aruguloids
Starting point is 00:14:28 under the pesky banner, here it is. Who leans more satanic? The pesks or the aruguloids? Because I'm trying to get a little bit into the satan club. Definitely the pesks. The pester on that vibe. For sure. Are you a satanist, Blake?
Starting point is 00:14:46 Yeah, I'm super into satan. You are. That's cool. I like his vibe. I like his vibe. Leather. What's your favorite satan song? My favorite satan song?
Starting point is 00:14:54 That's a good question. Oh, dang. There's a bunch of songs about the devil. Like, Like, Shout at the Devil. Yeah, yeah. That's a good one. Shout at the devil.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Run in with the devil is a good one. Run in with the devil, Van Halen. Yeah, that might be my favorite. That might be my favorite. I feel like Rob Zombie has some good devil tracks that I'm. Yeah, like Devil Man, Devil Man. Yeah, I don't know. What's your favorite Jesus song then, or God song, rather?
Starting point is 00:15:22 No, the one you hate the most because it's so good you hate it because you're a satanist. Do you guys remember this one? It's kind of, it's a little, it's a little long, so just bear with me, but it goes, If I had a little white box to keep my Jesus in, I would take him out and put him back again. And if I had a little black box to keep my satan in,
Starting point is 00:15:49 I would take him out and smash his face and put him back again. Wait, so this is like a violent song. Well, that's what was really fun. When you would go to Sunday school, you could really like get your aggression out on that verse. Like, you could add to it like, Smash his face and step on his balls. Smash his fucking face.
Starting point is 00:16:09 That's not very Christian. That's not very Christian though. Did you say that? No, I disagree. I think killing satan is the peak of Christianity. We must kill satan. Yeah, I was gonna say, or is it very Christian? You know, they got a, they got a history.
Starting point is 00:16:23 We all got a history. God be satan, bro. I would smash his fucking face and beat his ass and rip his fucking dick off. Yeah, and then my Sunday school teacher would be like, yes. Very good, Blake. That's a cool Sunday school teacher just at home whistling, and then they're like, what if I, oh, this could be fun song. And then it goes dark.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Who is this person who's writing this song? If I had a little Jesus and a little white box, and why is white good and black bad? Guys, it's all fucked up. That was established. Yeah, it's all weird. There's lots of levels and layers. Yeah, let's just, and why is it gotta be a box?
Starting point is 00:17:06 Thank you. It can't be any sort of other. That's where I draw the line. Ball. Why is it gotta be the box, man? Why can it be a ball or a sack? Yeah, like a cup. A satchel.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Grotem. Yeah, it can be a cup. Can't be a, just a pyramid. Like a cup with a top. Yeah, what the hell? Can't be a phallic symbol? I'm pissed now. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:17:25 A suitcase? I'm pissed now. Fuck it. A tiny little purse. If I had a little purse. A little purse. Kyle, are you going to get any surfing in out there? Yeah, are you hitting the Narnar banks or what?
Starting point is 00:17:37 I hope so. I really do hope so. I know I'm doing some boogie boarding, and I'm also doing some body boarding, but I have like four kids with me that I'm like entertaining on the daily. Like this morning we had like a kid dance party. That was just like that side.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I'm still going to send it. So you have to entertain them every day. That's like part of being a parent. That sucks. Yeah. Yeah. No days off. Until you just hire a staff to, you're good, you're good.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yeah. Or send them off to war. Yeah. There is no days off right now. Well, it's Hawaii though. Can't you just release them into the wild and let them climb a banyan tree and then you go about your business?
Starting point is 00:18:17 True. The four month old would do well with that. It's the 10 year old that I'm worried about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:25 They get into more trouble. Wait, wait, wait. What is the difference? Guys, everyone stop. Yes. What is the difference between a boogie board and a body board? No, no. Boogie boarding is with the board.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Body boarding, your fucking washboard abs are the board, bro. Your belly is the board. No, that's body surfing. It's the same thing. Yeah. Same deal. Okay. They call it body boarding?
Starting point is 00:18:48 I think so. I don't know. I could be wrong. I'm wrong about a lot of these things. I got to make a phone call. All right. We'll wait. You're a stupid dumbass.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Hello, President of Hawaii. Yeah. You guys are calling it body boarding? Hello. We are. Mahalo, brother. Uh, you got to change that. A little hot shoots.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Brought up. Okay. Is this DIRS 808? Yes, it is. 808 is the area code out here, bro. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, dude. You just got cred.
Starting point is 00:19:16 You got Hawaii cred. Yeah, I got docs. Now, are you, I also love Hawaii and spend a lot of time in Hawaii. Enjoy it immensely. But it sucks though, right? A little bit. Does it suck sometimes? You guys want to help me out with that one?
Starting point is 00:19:31 What did he say? He's asking you. He says that he hates Hawaii and it sucks sometimes. Why would you be taking that side of the argument, Adam? That's odd. Well, here's why. You can never eat when you want to eat. They will be off surfing and doing their own.
Starting point is 00:19:51 You'll go to a restaurant and it'll just be closed. And you're like, oh, but we were going to go eat here. And they're like, there's a good swell that came in. And now we're all just out surfing. Yeah. So that's the bummer that I have. You see those chickens? You see the chickens walking around?
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah, go do it. You just kill one of them? Yeah. Best of meal. Yeah, or just snag a pineapple. Those cats. What you're speaking about is what is referred to as island time. Am I correct, guys?
Starting point is 00:20:19 Yeah, the island time, it does bother me. I wish it didn't bother me. I wish I was just more go with the flow. And I'll eat whenever this swell is done and they can come back and cook the food. But I'm very much like a city guy that when I'm hungry and we decide to go to dinner, I want to be able to eat right then. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Well, then go to New York. Yeah. Go to New York. City guy? That's an island. You know when we were scouting a house party and we called ahead for our order and placed all of our order like an hour ahead of time and then we get there
Starting point is 00:20:55 and we only had like 30 minutes to eat and the food just never came. And we left starving. Yeah, I mean, the only time I've ever been mad at island time I think was when we were trying to do a production out here and trying to eat and trying to hit deadlines because there were days when some of like our whole art department didn't show up when we were trying to build the sets.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Right, yeah. Because there was a dope swell and they didn't want to go to the other side of the island and all that good stuff. And I mean, at the moment, it was a bummer but when I think back on it, I respect the fuck out of that. Okay, yeah. Yeah, it is cool.
Starting point is 00:21:30 I do get it. I think that maybe that is why because I haven't really vacationed there often. It's always been for work stuff. So every time I'm there, it's like... Yeah, that's not why you go to Hawaii now. Come on. That is...
Starting point is 00:21:43 Thank you, Blake. Was that Satan just telling it? Come on, that's not your blah blah blah. That's good. I like that guy. Yeah, you can. Yeah. It's pretty awesome actually.
Starting point is 00:21:53 It's a pretty fun place to work other than like, you know, certain things where the crew doesn't show up and stuff. It sounds like you don't like it. Yeah, everything you're telling me. You're like, it's a pretty awesome place to work except for when you need to get shit done, aka work. Yeah, you're flip-flopping like... I feel like it might have ruined Hawaii for you
Starting point is 00:22:11 and I feel bad because Hawaii is awesome. It is, it's so good. You should come here on a vacation. I need to go on vacation there, yeah. Yeah, the first time I went to Hawaii was when I was a very angsty teen and it was like, I think I was, it might have been my sophomore year and my family's like, we're going to Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:22:28 And I'm like, that sucks. I just want to stay at John Paul's house and play video games. Why am I going to fucking Hawaii? And I had the worst attitude is I was an absolute shit. You were just an angsty little shithead. Dude, I was such a bitch about it. But then by the end of the first day,
Starting point is 00:22:45 I was like freaking Hawaii, freaking rocks, dude, mahalo. Once you get in that water and just like, goddamn. The Aloha spirit washes over you. Eat some macadamia and fucking pancakes, my God. Bro, macadamia, everything for the win, man. It's for macadamia. Macadamia, everything. This dude is wiling.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Yeah. Milk nut, dog. Oh, yeah. Also, don't fuck with macadamia nuts. What? You don't like macadamia nuts? No, dude. You are so dumb.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Yeah, don't fuck with them, man. They're not, they're not my favorite. They're not my favorite by a long shot. Yeah, they're for sure. What? They're in the top 10 nuts, though, right? There aren't 10 nuts. They're delicacy.
Starting point is 00:23:29 They're like eight nuts. Yeah. What? I'm looking at three nuts. I'm feeling them, too. Yeah, I guess they are in the top 10 out of the eight possible nuts we can eat. There's what? Almonds.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Let's nut rank. Almonds. Let's nut rank. Cashews. Cashews. Walnuts. Pistachios. Peanuts.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Walnuts. Walnuts. Pistachios. Brazilian nuts. Brazilian nuts. Brazilian nuts. Pine nuts. Peanuts.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Uh-oh, we got six. We already said peanuts. Pine nuts. Pine nuts, I said pine nuts. Pine nuts. What nuts? Pine nuts. Pine nuts don't count.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Those are seeds. What the fuck are pine nuts? You're tripping, dawg. What do you mean, pine nuts? Those are seeds. Yeah. The fuck are pine nuts? You've never had a pine nut?
Starting point is 00:24:09 They're like in salads. Unlike, yeah. Unlike an Asian salad. Okay, sure. That seems like a seed to me, but all right. Did we say almonds? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Almonds was number one. So we only got seven nuts here. That's what I said. There ain't 10 nuts, bro. So yeah, I guess macadamia nuts are in the top 10. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, maybe it's 10.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Because I'm eating nuts that I've never eaten before, ever, and still putting them above macadamia nuts. Oh, hazelnut. Hazelnut. Yeah, hazelnut. Good job, bro. Hazelnut. And did we say macadamia nut already?
Starting point is 00:24:39 Did we say chestnut? Did we say chestnut? Did that, is that an account? Chestnut, for sure. Hey, what about chin nuts? You know what it is when you have chin nuts? You gotta dig in your mouth. Oh.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Okay. Yours. Wow. Hi, I'm David Eagleman. I have a new podcast called Inner Cosmos on iHeart. I'm a neuroscientist and an author at Stanford University. And I've spent my career exploring the three-pound universe in our heads.
Starting point is 00:25:13 On my new podcast, I'm going to explore the relationship between our brains and our experiences by tackling unusual questions so we can better understand our lives and our realities. Like, does time really run in slow motion when you're in a car accident? Or, can we create new senses for humans? Or, what does dreaming have to do with the rotation
Starting point is 00:25:38 of the planet? So join me weekly to uncover how your brain steers your behavior, your perception, and your reality. Listen to Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last season, millions tuned into the Betrayal podcast to hear a shocking story of deception.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I'm Andrea Gunning. And now we're sharing an all-new story of Betrayal. Ashley Lytton was helping her husband set up a business Venmo account when she discovered a terrible secret. I scrolled down, and that's when I saw a hidden folder, and I opened it. What the hell did I just see?
Starting point is 00:26:29 I was scared that he was coming home. What Ashley discovered that day was a secret so dark she feared for her life. She was like, oh my god, I gotta get out of the house. He's gonna find out that I've seen this, he's gonna come kill me. Listen to Season 2 of Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Between April 1971 and September 1972, six young black girls were snatched off the streets in Washington, D.C. It took four murders before the police finally realized that one person was responsible. I will admit the others when you catch me if you can. Signed freeway fan. This child was laying on the side of the road.
Starting point is 00:27:23 It appeared that she was probably either dragged out of the car or thrown out of the car. The person said, I murdered your daughter. The killer believed that he may have been seen by the mother. That guy is, he's out of sync with even the worst people. I thought that they would catch him. I thought it was just a matter of time. Is it possible that the killer is still alive?
Starting point is 00:27:50 Listen to Freeway Phantom on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What vacations did you guys take when you were like 14, 15, 16? My parents took me to, we never went anywhere. We only went like, we would go camping and shit. But I remember my parents took me to Orlando. But I was a little too old. Orlando.
Starting point is 00:28:20 We went to, for Walt Disney World. I was a little too old. Like I didn't give a fuck. You got to take your kids on vacations when they are still young enough to give a shit. By the time they hit 14, 15, they just want to be with their friends. You know what I mean? Yeah. So now you're dipping into that weird world of adults
Starting point is 00:28:41 that are obsessed with Disneyland and Disney World? Oh, dog. It is so strange. I'm sorry, mom. Well, that's not my thing. I agree with you. Like under 10. But then there's like these people who are in their 20s and 30s
Starting point is 00:28:52 who are like, it's my place. Yep. Yeah, it is a strange thing. Dude, have you guys heard of, and this is a real thing, have you heard of Disneyland gangs? Like where you wear your vest and you like rock your colors and you claim a section of the park and like, other gangs aren't allowed to go into your parts
Starting point is 00:29:12 or you guys like rumble and shit? Of course we have, Satan. No. But they don't rumble, do they? There's no rumble. I mean, they might like snap their fingers and walk in a circle. Right. Yeah, they're fighting Broadway style.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Ooh. Yeah. No, they break their fingers. It gets bad out there. Like the Haunted House Hectors or something versus like the Future Islands and shit. Really, you got to look it up. Future Islands?
Starting point is 00:29:35 I made up the names. I think that's a band. Future. It's a band. Yeah. Oh, OK. So you're saying the Future Island guys are in a gang? They're in a Disney gang.
Starting point is 00:29:44 The Mickey men. Wait, so how old were you when you went, Adam? That you were just over at 12 or something? No, I was 14 years old. Oh, yeah. I just remember I was just like too horny to be out in public. I was too horny. But it's Orlando.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Titties were out, no? Momboos? I know, but I was jerking off all the time. It was not. I was like just dipping away to go jerk off places. I'm like, it sucked. Right. Minnie Mouse?
Starting point is 00:30:06 I should have just been at my house where I could just jerk off at peace. Here we go. Yeah. Can't have fun. Well, it is a bummer because you do when you go on a family vacation, you kind of have to like mom and dad sleep in the bed and then you pull out a cot and your sister's in the same room or your brother's in the same room.
Starting point is 00:30:20 It's really hard. Oh, yeah. There was no like two bedrooms. It was all four of us sleeping in one hotel room. So it's just me taking like a lot of bathroom breaks. Yeah. Like I'm just always shitting, you know? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:31 You took long showers? I'm taking super long showers. Why is a conditioner all gone? And then my dad absolutely every time we knock on the door and he'd be like, you're going to go blind in there. Because he knew. Worth it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Because he knew. And I'm like, you're not. Why do you always say that 100% of the time I was? You had your dick in your hand while you were saying like, no. You're like, no, I'm not. I'm not. Oh, yeah. I'm jacking up.
Starting point is 00:30:55 That's what I'm doing. I'm stroking it like very gently. And now I'm working the head now. Sure I am. I mean. No, I'm using both hands. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:05 No, I'm standing up. I just have my hands in one position and I'm fucking dead. And I'm fucking dead. Sure I am, dad. Right. I'm watching myself in the mirror, fuck my own hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I'm dropping into my own hand. Sure, pop. Yeah. I'm using the detachable shower head to shoot up my ass on my balls. Your dad's in the hallway going like, I think he's fucking doing it. I think he's actually fucking doing it. Well, not get off then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I remember we went to Vegas. Winning. It was like, I must have been like, it's probably the next year, it's like 15 or something. And we went to Vegas. Because Vegas is like a pretty cheap family vacation because they have all kinds of deals. I thought you said he went camping and now you've gone to Disney World and Vegas?
Starting point is 00:31:57 That's pretty good, dude. Yeah, your family was killing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are the two places. Yeah, Derset he didn't go on any vacations. I know, but he lived on Lake Michigan. Like he was like a block away from the lake. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I grew up on a houseboat. It's science. And that'd be something. Yeah. Yeah, so we went to Vegas. I remember also too wanted to be out in the world. I had to, there was like, you know, they just hand out porno on the streets there.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Yeah, of course. Oh, yeah. Wouldn't I tap it? Right. They like have those guys with the cards that are smacking them and then they just have like little naked ladies on them with like numbers and shit on them. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And it was strewn about on the street. I remember just having to like, I said like I was going to go get ice. And then I dead sprinted outside. Got as much shit as possible. And then sprinted back. You just picked it up off the ground or from like people? Yeah, from the ground.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And then they also have like the like, where they keep newspapers. Or yeah, the newspaper boxes. Yeah, that they just keep stacked. And then I stuffed it in my pants and I came running back and got the ice. And now I'm sweating because it was like a debt because it's a Vegas hotel.
Starting point is 00:33:07 It takes a long time to get outside. For sure. It's the desert. Toasty. You better believe it. And it's hot. It's the desert. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And I remember just my mom like, you know, thinking something was was up. She was like, it took you that long to get ice. And I'm like, yeah, every machine, so does busted. I had to go to like six machines. Yeah. Goofy. And then like later that night,
Starting point is 00:33:28 she goes and gets she goes and gets ice. And she's like the one and I'm like, they must have fixed it. The one down the hallway is working. They must have fixed that real quick. They must have fixed that really quickly. You're shouting this from the bathroom. You have like all these things laid out perfectly. I love that you're outside picking it up off the ground
Starting point is 00:33:47 like it's the fucking parade from Batman or Joker throughout all the cash and people are going crazy. Oh. So tight. I love that. Good ref. Good ref. Secret.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Ref points. Points. Hey, do you remember what hotel you were staying in? Yeah, the Excalibur. Oh, that's the best one. That's the best one. Is that a castle? Yeah, that's the castle.
Starting point is 00:34:10 It is a castle. And they have like great merch. Like if you ever go on like eBay and just look up old Excalibur shirts, they're freaking rad as hell. There was a nightclub in Chicago called the Excalibur. Oh, yeah. Does it go off?
Starting point is 00:34:23 When I was like 12, it was shaped like a castle. So you went to the club when you were 12 and Adam went to Vegas when he's 14. No, no, no, no, no. You just knew it was there. You knew it was there. No, because on the radio stations, they'd be like, they had this thing called Starbeat presents
Starting point is 00:34:36 what's happening. And then it'd be like this weekend at Excalibur. It's ladies night only. You know, it was just they do the commercials on the radio. It was so fucking tight. That's what was the. I love shit like that.
Starting point is 00:34:47 When you like as a little kid, you like know that it's a place that adults go. Right. Like so you and your friends are like, oh, we should maybe hit up Excalibur this weekend. Like, oh, that'd be awesome. And this is like 90s house music at its height. So it was just like it was it was a it was a culture.
Starting point is 00:35:04 It was something. Yeah, it was that. It was exactly that. It was deep inside, deep, deep, deep inside. And that's why when Kanye put that on the album, I said he's come home. He's back to Chicago. He's back to his roots.
Starting point is 00:35:17 There we go. There we go. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Garnier. There you go. Garnier. Well, Kyle, did you did you go on any family vacations where you couldn't stop masturbating?
Starting point is 00:35:28 Well, it was I had just me. Is it just me? No, no, no, no. I mean, you're a hornball for sure. But like we all were. I mean, I'm I had. Yes, Satan. I had the issue of not being able to masturbate.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And then I compounded on top of that. I had the other issue of smoking cigarettes because I I could travel with cigarettes as a nine year old. I needed to find cigarettes because I was addicted by age 12 to the point where I was stealing from the store and like okay, going from fucking ashtrays or like pretending like I was 18 and trying to bum off of people.
Starting point is 00:36:04 So I had this other issue. So would you like lower your voice and be like a mind if I catch a fag or whatever? Or like a cancer stick. That shit's important. Why don't you give me another nail in the coffin, huh? Buddy, you know, just do it. You got a loosey or anything.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Meanwhile, you're 12 years old. But yeah, you mind if I get another nail in the coffin? Can I get another paper rolled up thing with the stuff? The good, good stuff with the tobacco in it? Can I get a cancer stick? But I would somehow find them. I don't know how I did it. I would somehow find these smokes and I would like keep them
Starting point is 00:36:44 and I would have like a little stash and I would... Smokers have like a kinship. I think because it is such an addicting thing. That like when someone asks, I was always jealous of friends that because I never smoked. But I was like jealous of my friends in like eighth and ninth grade. Right, absolutely. That like could just go up to any group of people
Starting point is 00:37:05 and be like, hey, mind if I bum a sig? And then they're in that little club. Right, yeah. And then I'm just like the guy who's just like, well, shit. All right. Can I stand next to you? Well, do you remember that like world famous commercial where it was like the guy out on the balcony by himself
Starting point is 00:37:21 and the girl comes out and he's like, you know, a funny thing is I started smoking to be a part of the party and now I'm outside of it. Wow, yep, yep. It was profound. That shit's important. Does anyone out there remember that world famous commercial? Shout out to Blake and his DMs.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I remember that world famous commercial. I do remember that. That shit's important. Thank you. It stuck with me. I had Tivo very early. I skipped commercials probably during the whole era. You had 1829 Tivo.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Yeah. The good shit. The cigarettes is what got me in like every group in high school. It really was that. It's like I could go hang out with the freaks in the back. I could hang out with the janitors. The ginger. Hang out with these groups.
Starting point is 00:38:02 The musicians. Hang out with the artists. Hang out with the drama club. The angry teachers. Do you wish you didn't smoke or are you stoked on it? Well, I mean. Are you happy? Did it make you who you are kind of thing?
Starting point is 00:38:14 That's where you are. Fucking no regrets, dog. I don't like the damage that I did to my lungs, but it's been, you know. So you regret that. It's been eight years and I feel like they're growing back, you know. But yeah, I don't know, man. I guess that looking back, I kind of wasted a lot of fucking money in the hardest time of my life buying cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And I risked a lot just to get cigarettes like stealing always. Like it was it was not a great thing for me, but it did shape me. It shaped me. So yeah. I mean, my dad quit for like seven or eight years and then the cancer struck. You know what I mean? Like right. So fuck it.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Well, when that happened to your pops, I was like, dude, I remember smoking cigars with him. Hmm. You know what I mean? Like and that's it does like freak me out where it's like, oh, I'm so fucking glad I quit because I'm not sitting here with thank God wanting to go have a cigarette. And then every time you smoke being like, dude, this is going to fucking kill me. Like, I know this is going to kill me.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Another nail in the coffin. What? Another nail in the coffin. What do you think the like our generation? I think our generation fuck me. Fuck. Oh, boy. I just spilled the shit all over.
Starting point is 00:39:27 That sounded bad. I think our generation, it's going to be like energy drinks. We're going to find out that energy drinks. Oh, what do you mean find out? Our hearts are going to what? We don't know anything about energy drinks. They're bad for you. I know.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I know my dick doesn't work. Right. There's no like energy drink cancer that we've found out yet. Well, probably like rotted your gut. Yeah. All sorts are one thing. What we've talked about this on the podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:52 You went to the doctor because you were having like heart palpitations or murmurs. Yeah. I know, but I don't have cancer because of it yet. Sure. Cancer is one thing, but it's definitely not good for you. Yeah. You had kidney stones. We're going to look back at eating meat.
Starting point is 00:40:07 I mean, Kyle, you're part of the future, but we're going to look back at eating meat and be like, what were we doing eating meat that way? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah. Right. We've evolved past it.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Thinking. I know what we were doing. Yeah, building muscle, being strong as hell. Getting, being beef castles. Being beefy as fuck. Being cool. Having delicious ribs. I love meat.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I mean, I'm here for it. I'm a burger god. Meat is burger. You are. Yeah, buddy. But looking back, we're going to go, whoops. Yeah. And we're talking like 300 years from now, 500 years from now,
Starting point is 00:40:38 they're going to be like, what the fuck were they doing? They were just constantly raising animals to kill. In the worst circumstances. Well, we won't be in charge then. The robots will. No, we'll be living on the hard drive. Yeah. And they'll be looking down from Mars.
Starting point is 00:40:51 And they'll be saying, hey, you guys were wild on planet Earth, brother. Bro, this is all, what is it? It's not real. It's a simulation. We're living in a simulation. Okay. All a simulation.
Starting point is 00:41:03 We're living in nightmare. Okay. And we're getting into it. Goodbye. So Kyle, I finally watched this HBO QAnon documentary. Oh, I see. Welcome, geez. I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Into the storm. The guy looks so much like Kyle. I've never seen anything more crazy in my entire life. Oh, yeah. The guy that started the, what is it, 8chan? 8chan, yeah. 8chan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:26 But he's QAnon. I mean, they say he's QAnon, but like, he's Q. He looks like Kyle and it's crazy. He looks exactly like Kyle in film school. Yep, for sure. It is really bizarre. Yeah. When you send that photo, you send the photo to the group
Starting point is 00:41:41 and you were like 2000, what did you say, like 10 Kyle? I think 2011, Kyle or something like that. Yeah. I mean, like that was Kyle's look from like 2005 to 2010. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah, you could pull up like the MOC website old files
Starting point is 00:41:56 and pictures and it looks exactly like that, dude. I do it. It, I do. He has the same, the same glasses, the same flat brim, the same flannels, the same even mustache with the little Winchester thing. Yeah, the little Buffalo Bill, the little Wilder. Wider.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Everything is the same. The glasses have tape on them. It's crazy. So if we're in a simulation, what does that mean? Well, now you're going down, now you're going down QAnon. All right, wait a second. That's kind of not what we're talking about, but yeah. It's scientific and it is, you Kyle.
Starting point is 00:42:31 No! If we're living in a simulation, except that a truth, what does a doppelganger actually mean? It's fucked up. It just means they ran out of ideas for new people. They ran out of avatars. Yeah, it means that, it means that God doesn't make mistakes and sometimes he makes two perfect things that are the same.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Put them in a white box. You Satanic bastard. I mean, imagine if your life really, really, really, really sucks and then you find out that you're in a simulation. How fucking bad would that suck? It's like even in a fucking video game, I got the fucking shitty, the shitty version of it? Yeah, but I think people, what they do is they go,
Starting point is 00:43:09 we're in a simulation, so like. So nothing matters? Well, maybe so nothing matters. And then also like my shitty life, this isn't real, so I don't have to take it as seriously. You know what I'm saying? And if it's a simulation, I can figure out how to work the simulation and improve my situation.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Well, sure. I mean, that's a way to just look at it like, it's like if you just look at life as a giant game, that is a good way to look. I mean, obviously it's a very serious game, but yeah, you should figure it out. Go see Free Guy on. Yeah, it's Free Guy.
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Starting point is 00:47:04 or wherever you get your podcasts. The one thing that I'd have noticed though with like a lot of television going along the lines of a simulation or whatever, having noticed a lot of debates like alternate timelines, where we're living in these different fractured timelines. I feel like Rick and Morty hits it a bunch. I feel like Marvel Universe hits it a whole bunch. It's kind of the same thing. Yeah, it's like an escapism where it's like,
Starting point is 00:47:35 oh gosh, we're just living in a really bad splinter of timelines. And I'm like, what are we preparing people for? Yeah, is it just because the world kind of sucks now, like global warming has like, there's fires every fucking day. There's the East Coast is just flooding. There's hurricanes. There's tornadoes in Hawaii. This is like a theory that is just going against what we had before.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Like when we were growing up, we had Ashton Kutcher in the butterfly effect, right? Thank you. That was kind of like, you can't change. Yes. Yeah, you can't change. Like a butterfly flaps its wings and then everything else after that is what it is. Now we're challenging that theory with a multiverse concept. Yeah, we're like, no, butterflies don't mean shit.
Starting point is 00:48:15 It's not about butterflies anymore. I haven't seen butterfly effect, man. Dude, that movie Rami and I'm not being ironic. That movie fucking kicks. That movie fucking rules. Ashton Kutcher underrated. Are you fucking with us? No.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Are you guys fucking with us? I'm not. Kutch? The Kutch is underrated in the butterfly effect. I do remember somebody telling me that that movie was actually fucking dope. And I've never seen it, but I remember being like, still not going to see it. No, you should watch it.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I mean, when I watch it, I was blown the fuck away. Durs would hate it. Durs would hate it. There's without a doubt, Durs would hard stance it. Like, Adam, you like that movie where Homeboy takes the fucking pill? Well, yeah, it blows another example. I love Blow, my favorite movie of all time. The first half.
Starting point is 00:49:00 You love these movies where people get a thing, they figure out some secret, and then like their life turns into this awesome thing, and then there's like the backlash in Act 3, right? Uh, yeah. Is that what it is? No. But Adam doesn't watch Act 3. He only watches The Rise.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Right. Yeah, I don't like that. Remember with Blow, we established he only watches the fun part and then turns it off as soon as it gets soured. Right. Well, it's not like I've seen, I've seen the bad part of Blow. But you don't like to pay attention to that part of the story. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:33 But the fun part of Blow is the first two acts, when it's just, and Bobcat is going like, oh, that's some really good stuff, man. I've never seen it this great. The first act of a Coke movie is fun. What are the good movies where like the first 20 minutes are like an awesome thing before like shit really hits the fan, and it turns into like a, like you like for a dream, the first like seven minutes.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Oh, sure. Yeah, when the drug, it's drug movies. It's just drug movies, the beginnings fun. Dude, my favorite movie is Jaws. It's about a campfire, and then a girl gets naked and goes swimming. It rocks. It's not too long. And then I turn off.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Yeah, Friday the 13th, they like kick it in a van, and it's like our nightmare on Elm. What's the, I don't know. Yeah, it's really fun. It's a great sleep. What year did butterfly effect come out though? Okay, my guess, 2001. 2004. I'm saying four.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I think it was post film school for me. You think it was post a graduate in high school? Yeah. Are you looking it up, Blaker? I'm trying to, but I'm, I'm, I'm failing. I'm failing. Googling's hard. It is.
Starting point is 00:50:48 It's tough. I'm saying 04. 2004, my gosh. Oh my gosh. Yes. Well done. Right on, right on. Pal, French kiss.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I feel like during those like the, the, the, what do we call those? The aughts or whatever. There were some like. Dude, nobody cares. I'm just kidding. Go ahead. There were some like really good movies that were excellent that like aren't mainstream.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Like do you remember that movie like frailty with like, uh, so good. It was like Bill Paxton, right? Yeah. And it's just like at a really great movie, great script, like great twist, all that, but like not everybody saw it for some reason. Powers Booth, Powers Booth is like the detective, right? Yeah. And I just feel like there's a lot of stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Yeah. I don't know this one. Can you give me a little like what, what is frailty? Just give me the frailties about this dad who believes like God is telling him like people that he needs to like, uh, kill in the name of the Lord. Cause they're like evil people and he's being, so he's basically his son thinks he's like a murderer, but he's telling them it's all justified killings. And it's like this weird trip.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Right. And the kid knows. Right. Well, that's like every like serial killer thinks that they're just for doing their absolutely insane. Right. But there's things in the movie that make you think he's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:03 You teeter whether he's is insane or whether he is actually now is Johnny Depp dealing cocaine in this movie at all or the beginning of the movie is just them bumping mad rails, tying off like, okay. I might like it. I might like the first half of it. See you just. What's wrong with Kevin Bacon where he starts drinking all that orange juice and he's digging all the hollow man.
Starting point is 00:52:25 No, well, that's that's that's a whole other that one's problematic. Adam loves hollow man. No, the one Kevin Bacon where he's drinking all the orange juice. He's drinking all he's digging all the holes in the backyard because it's it's almost like a field of dreams type thing. That's called holes with Shia LaBeouf. Wait, what is it? No, it's it's wait.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Hold on. Let's go. Wait, it's let's go. Let's go. Wait, let's go. Let's go. It's it's not ghosts in the darkness, but it's something about ghosts. Yeah, something goes.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Ghost in the darkness is the lion movie, right? Yes, with Val Kilmer. Yeah, that's Haley Joel Osment. That was Ghost was Patrick Swayze, Whoopi Goldberg. Ghost in the darkness is Haley Joel Osment and two lions. No, no, it's Val Kilmer and like Robert Duvall. There's I thought it was. Yeah, I thought it was.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I thought it was Haley Joel Osment, too. Let's go. Todd in the chat just says Stir of Echoes. Stir of Echoes. Oh, Stir of Echoes. Stir of Echoes. Honestly, Stir of Echoes has the trailer that has like the paint it black song, and I believe it's like cover and it started a trend that has not stopped in fucking trailers,
Starting point is 00:53:36 bro. Okay. What the fuck are we talking Stir of Echoes? I've never even heard of this movie. It's good. It's good. Kevin Bacon and there's a Stir of Echoes to starring Rob Lowe. That's also exists.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I think there's a video game. I'm gonna pull up Ghost in the darkness. I mean, I've never even, there's such a hole in my Snapchat memory. I don't remember this at all. I'm telling you, it was the early 2000s. Like great movies were coming out. It was an era. No one is dealing drugs at all.
Starting point is 00:54:08 No one is. I don't know. I haven't seen Stir of Echoes. Are there 10 Ferraris in a parking lot of a house? I feel like there could be. How many, what's the Ferrari count? Adam only likes movies. I only ever watched the first third of Wolf of Wall Street.
Starting point is 00:54:23 It rocked. The Ferrari count has to be over five for Adam. I give this movie five Ferraris. Kyle, when you were saying it had like painted black, are you saying like the way like Jordan Peele uses like I got five on it, but then like makes it like a scary version of the song? He got that from Stir of Echoes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I'm pretty sure it was like a cover version of the song. Wait, here's another one. Remember the fucking John Goodman, Denzel Washington movie? Fallen, falling, falling angel. Fallen. Fallen is. That's another one where it was just fucking dope. Denzel had like four movies that were like Man on Fire.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Like they weren't like theater hits, but they were like DVD smash it. Man on Fire is technically a swimming movie. So I'm with you. Great moment. I feel like Denzel, I mean they, that was a hit. Was it? No. Man on Fire?
Starting point is 00:55:08 You're thinking of Man on Fire. Man on Fire was a hit. Yeah. That was a great film. Or Out of Time. I think he has one called Out of Time where. Denzel just fucking crushes. He makes so many goddamn movies and they're all good.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Yo, best dumbest movie ever was Deja Vu. That wasn't dumb though. That wasn't dumb. That's kind of like Butterfly Effect, right? Hang on. No, no, it makes zero sense, the whole concept. But like, because at some point when they're explaining it, they're like, just go with me here.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And you're like, oh, they're talking to me, the audience member. And if you buy into it, it's fucking dope. That was a note from the network. And they're like, how does the line just go with me here? Does that fix it for you? What if there's a note from the studio? It's like, hey, what if we had a narrator that just says, hey, audience, just go with me here?
Starting point is 00:55:55 Maybe we do that in the workaholics movie, Dears. They have like this. We will. We will. They have a fucking scientist explain it. And then the person's like, I don't think that makes any sense. And they're like, just go with me here. And you go, oh, OK, great.
Starting point is 00:56:09 It's science. And then there's like car chases that happened four days before, but he's chasing them now. It's fucking sick. Momento shit. When I was talking about Ghost in the Darkness, I said Hailey Joel Osmond. I was thinking about secondhand lions with Robert Seville.
Starting point is 00:56:24 That's my bad. Right. Michael Douglas. Michael Douglas is in Ghost in the Darkness, correct? Yes. It's Michael Douglas and Val Kilmer. I was thinking Lion King. I mean, guys, I haven't followed this conversation
Starting point is 00:56:35 now for 10 minutes. I've had a macadamia nuts. Maybe I didn't see a movie in 2004. Maybe there's like every movie that you're mentioning, I've never even heard of. Well, we lived together and we smoked a lot of fucking weed when we lived together in 2004. So like possibly you didn't clock anything.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Yeah, man, I still do. Damn. I smoke weed every day. Well, Snapchat memory could be the weed's adverse effects on your particular body chemistry. I mean, it might be the Vax, dude. It might be the Vax. Do we think it's the Vax?
Starting point is 00:57:08 What? Were you vaxed in 24? Were you vaxed in 2004? It erases all of your garbage memories before the Vax. Oh, OK. It's like, OK, that's cool. The COVID foggy brain. I remember blow scene for scene.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Can I say one thing that's interesting? This might be the difference between us and starts with the penis. Is that you remember all that from the only thing I've really... When you say blow, the only thing I think about is Penelope. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I didn't mean to... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do that. Can you cruise? I'm sorry. I remember Penelope cruise in that wind suit at the end. Oh, yes. Sick. That's all I think of.
Starting point is 00:57:54 I don't think of anything except for her looking busted as hell in a sick-ass wind suit. She was. That's why you don't watch the last 20 minutes. You just turn it on. See, that's what I think about, too. I think about Johnny Depp in the old man prosthetics walking through jail.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yeah, with like the bad members-only jacket. Yeah. At the end of the movie, it gets sad, guys. It gets sad. Yeah, it's inevitable. But the first hour of the movie is a fucking banger, baby. Penelope tears it up. Is this the same movie where are there people in like an FBI
Starting point is 00:58:23 thing listening to him? Or no, I'm thinking of Donnie Brasco. Oh, Donnie, yes. Brasco is so good. Donnie Brasco is good. They become like fanboys and they're like, so what does it mean when you guys say this? And then they're like, he's so cool.
Starting point is 00:58:36 That's right. That's... I like that movie. That movie's tight. Bro, when Depp chops up, they're like, saws it, saws the bodies, and he has to do that. That's a fucking craze. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Sorry, sorry. Spoiler alert. Sorry. Oh my god. That's an amazing moment. It's a sad moment. Yeah. How's Johnny Depp doing?
Starting point is 00:58:54 See, hanging in there. Johnny Depp, he's been out of the news for about decade, I think. Hey, we've got some Hollywood goss. No, that's not at all true. What's up? He's like in all kinds of hot water because of... No, he's been out of the news for about a decade now. I think he's just been in hiding drinking wine.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Perfect. Well, it was something like he had like a $2,000 a day wine habit. It's more than that. I think it was $20,000 or $30,000. It was $30,000 a month, I think, of wine. Yeah. Which is so cool. That's so much wine.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Like, he took his, like, Pirates of the Caribbean character, like way too seriously. He got lost in the sauce. He also was in a band. Did you guys know that he was in a band where he actually... Yeah, like Hollywood Vampires or something? Yeah, he actually rips on the guitar. You can watch some of...
Starting point is 00:59:43 He rips. Yeah. I mean, he pulls it off. He pulls it off. He doesn't rip like Jack White. Big difference. Big difference. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I didn't mean to say rip, but he pulls it off. He wanted to be a musician before even becoming an actor. That was like his thing. So, yeah, I bet he rips. Yeah. No, he pulls it off. He pulls it off. He does not rip.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I'm thinking of like Jack White. No, he doesn't rip. He rips it off. He fucking hits the notes. He rips it off. He rips it off. And then he pulls it. Hi, I'm David Eagleman.
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Starting point is 01:03:24 The Boxcutters. Oh, yeah. That's a go. Oh, Billy Bob Thornton. Yeah, Billy Bob's good. All right, so we got them. Bruce Willis. Bruce Willis has a band.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I feel like everybody at a certain age, they just go like, I guess I just start a band. Jason Schwartzman. Don't forget about Coconut Records. Jason Schwartzman. Oh, yeah, Schwartzman. That's tight. It was California.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Yeah, that's a hit. California. Wait, is that? That's not Jason Schwartzman. No, it's just. I'm going to the west coast. Yeah. No, I think Adam's right.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I think that's like, I wish I could put you up into my suitcase. I think those are the same song. Yeah. I think Adam is singing the hook. It's not. I'm right. Adam's singing the theme to OC. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I know. I thought that that was it. Shut up! Shut up! What does Schwartzman do? The west coast. Yeah, Blake. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Who's the actor from Gladiator? He had a band too, right? Russell Crowe. Russell Crowe was leading or the Black Crowes. Oh, dude. The other actor from Gladiator, great band. Joaquin Phoenix. I'm still here.
Starting point is 01:04:27 It's a Phantom Planet. It's Phantom Planet. And yes. That's not Jason Schwartzman. Yes, it is. No. Jason Schwartzman is Coconut Records. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:36 And he plays west coast. I can play it. Jason Schwartzman was also in Phantom Planet. Yeah. He was in Phantom Planet and he did the theme to OC. You guys are both idiots. It's fine. No, that can't be true.
Starting point is 01:04:47 But it's true. You idiots! Jason is the drummer and songwriter for the band Phantom Planet. Wait, there's got to be a best. Oh, Jared fucking Leto. What are we doing here? Oh, Jared Leto is the best crossover.
Starting point is 01:05:02 30 seconds to Mars. I apologize. You have an apology coming. I'm excited to receive that. 30 seconds to Mars. Yes, that wins. Yeah, I feel like he probably wins. Unanimous.
Starting point is 01:05:14 It's 30 seconds. OK, first person in name of 30 seconds, tomorrow's song wins. Go. Blast off. Bury me, bury me. What about Jack Black? Jack Black and Tenacious D is fantastic. Oh, well, he wins.
Starting point is 01:05:27 He has to win. Come on. Yeah, he crushes. He wins for me. I'm sure Leto, what is it? 30 seconds to Mars? Is that the name of the band? Yeah, I would much rather see a Tenacious D show.
Starting point is 01:05:39 I'm sure that band is bigger than Tenacious D is, but Tenacious D rocks way harder. Are we just skipping over Jamie Foxx? Does it have to be a band or what are we doing? Well, that's what I was saying, Joaquin. It's like he had a rap career. Jennifer Hudson, like. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Right. Well, I think what got us on it was being able to pull off a guitar or rock on a guitar, so. Yes, to shred. Right. So who is the best guitarist? Who is the best guitarist that's also an actor? I bet somebody knows.
Starting point is 01:06:06 I bet actual musicians know. Yeah, someone definitely rips. It might be Johnny Depp. It could be. The guy rips. You're not that guy, pal. Trust me. He pulls it off.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Like, I feel like Dave Grohl would know the answer to this. He'd be like, you know, who actually rips? And then we'd go, who? And he'd tell us. That's how the conversation would go. God, yeah. Should Dave Grohl be the second guest on the podcast? Well, now he's like the sixth.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Yeah, we've had guests. We've had other people speak on microphones. The whole bachelor party. We had microphones. Adam doesn't remember that weekend. We need a moment of silence. Yes, points. He's taking a breath.
Starting point is 01:06:51 We had microphone. We had microchip. Oh, right, everybody. Does anybody have any apologies? Let's take Max or gimmicks. Any gimmicks? Take Max or G Willikers. Stop.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Well, you know, I would like to apologize to Adam. I see that he's yelling off-screen. He might have a break-in. I think his docs came through very quickly. And there are people at his house. They found him. Adam, if I could just apologize. I didn't realize you were such a wealth of Jason Schwarzman
Starting point is 01:07:29 knowledge and you know all of his side projects and bands. And dude, that song came out right when I moved to California. And I was like, doonie, doonie, doonie, doonie, doonie, doonie. I mean, at the one on one California. And I was like, yeah. Slow motion walking through the campus of OCC, Orange Coast Community College. So yeah, it has a special place in my heart
Starting point is 01:07:51 and a big shout out to Jason and Phantom Planet. I just remember my high school girlfriend had a crush on him and it like upset me. Get over it. He's great. Get over it. I'm sorry. No, let's bring it up.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Yeah. Bring it up. Let's talk about it. Let's take an hour. Bring it up. When we moved to LA, like that, because I moved to LA when you guys moved to OC, I assume. That era, music changed like overnight.
Starting point is 01:08:16 And I thought that because I moved to LA, bands like The Killers or Franz Ferdinand or like these, all these new, whatever the fuck you want to call it. Yeah, The Hives. I was like, oh, music's different here. And I didn't realize like everyone back home was getting the same fucking music. The Postal Service came out.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Yeah, wasn't that all like the Garden State soundtrack really fucking popped a lot of that, right? And that was 2004. Yeah, shout out to Natalie Portman. Yeah, let's get her on the pod. Shout out to Zach Braf. Yeah, should she be the next guest? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:50 I'm going to the Green Day concert, Green Day Weezer, Fallout Boy at Dodger Stadium tonight. You're not going to, you're going to explode. You're going to spontaneously combust. Yeah, I know. I'm so excited. Like, I've never seen it. I don't know if I've seen a concert with that many people.
Starting point is 01:09:08 There's going to be like 60,000 people there. That will be very fun. Be safe. You mean you've never been to a show that big? I don't know if I've been to a show that big. I've seen the Foo Fighters in a stadium in Australia, but I don't know if it was as big as Dodger Stadium. Dude, you've been to, you've been to Jazz Fest
Starting point is 01:09:26 and like when we saw Arcade Fire and Jazz Fest. And that is true. Yeah, that's true. Wait a second. We all were at Bonnaroo. There's 100,000 people. But that's a festival. That's festival.
Starting point is 01:09:35 But that's a festival. That's not just a concert. Yeah. Okay. I don't know if I've been to a like a concert. I've been to a festival, which is different because you will like walk and watch a band for like 20 minutes and then walk to see something else.
Starting point is 01:09:47 I agree, Adam. I agree. Nobody was walking anywhere, but sure. I agree, Adam. Festival environment is- What is the difference? A concert- Because you're not purchasing, you're not in one arena.
Starting point is 01:09:58 You're not purchasing for like one band. Okay. So is it different that you're going to see three bands instead of one? Like what are we talking about? Yeah, what the fuck is this line? No, because there's always an opener. There's always an opener.
Starting point is 01:10:12 At festivals, you have a lot of concerts. You also have a lot of stages, guys. This is a one stage show. But no, but when we saw Lil Wayne, there was one performance happening and it was Lil Wayne. Sure. But it's multiple stages.
Starting point is 01:10:25 No, I'm sure there was somebody performing on the B stage. It was probably like Blues Travelers or something, but everybody's going to go Lil Wayne. So who did I need to see? Yeah, it was the Blues Travelers. And I wish we would have went and watched him. You wanted us to see like Steve Winwood. I had to go see Bob Singers.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Bruce Hornsby. Bruce Hornsby. Bruce Hornsby. That's Hornsby. Oh, that's good. Look him up, guys. Got a couple good songs. But anyways, I'm going to that show tonight.
Starting point is 01:10:49 I'm very excited about it. It should be fun. That'll be fun. No, just stadium. I haven't seen Weezer in years, but I feel like I saw them like three times, like right out of high school. Like just it was all Weezered.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Say it ain't so. Oh yeah. It's hot shit. Weezer tours. I hosted the Weezer crews. I'm sure I talked about it on the podcast, but I hosted the Weezer cruise ship like seven years ago or something,
Starting point is 01:11:12 which was absolutely insane to just be on a cruise ship with with like 2000 Weezer fans. It was it was awesome. That is heavy. It was a lot of hoodies, a lot of zipped up hoodies on that. A lot of zipped up hoodies. Everyone's very pale.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Everyone's wearing converse. Right. Cool glasses. Yeah. A lot of cool glasses. Yeah. A lot of a lot of ectomorphs. They gave me the microphone because I was the emcee
Starting point is 01:11:37 of the like shit of the whole ship for the for the week. Oh yeah. You just walked around, right? Yeah. And so they're like, here you could talk. And this is your God, Mike. You can talk to the entire ship whenever you'd like. And I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 01:11:50 And then I went to the casino and then I was like, hey, come on down to the casino. See me in the casino. And then I started losing money and like getting more and more drunk. And I'm like, don't come to the casino. They're taking all your money. I thought maybe.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And then I was like, this is bullshit. And then someone came and took my microphone away from me. I thought maybe you naked gunned it and took it in the bathroom. Right. Contipated again. It's tricking off. It's just tricking off again.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Who does number two work for? The God, Mike. Take the Mike away. Hey, Ders. Yeah. What is an ectomorph? I heard you say that. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 01:12:28 I like that. It's a body type. It's somebody who's. Uh-oh. Who's like very slender. Oh, right. There's three body types. Very narrow.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Yeah. There's a ectomorph or thin and narrow. Mesomorphs are kind of like the V shape and an endomorph, I think, is what it's like. An endo. An upside down V, where you've got big hips and narrow shoulders kind of thing. Oh, OK.
Starting point is 01:12:49 That shit's important. So what are we? What are we, Ders? Yeah. If you had to categorize us. You and I are probably mesomorphs. I would say Blake is an ectomorph. And what's mesomorph again?
Starting point is 01:13:01 Like a V. That's the V. What you want? Classically handsome. You're heavy up top. And yeah, like small dick. And then small dick. Kyle.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah. Yep. You're a shapeshifter, pal. It's science. I feel like Kyle. You've been them all. No. I've seen you P90X yourself to an ectomorph.
Starting point is 01:13:26 I've seen you as a mesomorph. And then. I can't stop eating. But I don't know. I think Kyle's a, no. Kyle with those big shoulders, pal. No, that's fine. You're a mesomorph.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Kyle does have big ass shoulders. You're a mesomorph, for sure. Big check shoulders. What's the fat one? You're a can't stop morph. I eat because I'm unhopping. Can't stop morphing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:49 I'm a, thank you. You're not a endomorph. You're not that guy, pal. Trust me. I don't know if I'm a mesomorph because my, I mean, I'm like, I'm the same size all the way down. There's like, there's not a, it's not like my legs are skinny. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I have big ass fucking legs. I'm just. What I'm saying is that this is like, if your body's like, it's what your body should be. And then it's up to you how you take care of it. Like look at Blake. Like Blake is super skinny, but he works out and lifts fucking weights.
Starting point is 01:14:19 So like, he's got muscle on there, right? But if he didn't do anything, he would just be a little skinny piece of shit. What would they call you in high school? Sperm. Afro fetus. They call him fetus. Afro fetus.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Afro fetus. That's right. And then you started lifting weights and you, you punched the mirror and shit now. He lifted that nickname away. Then I found God. Right. Change me.
Starting point is 01:14:40 In the box. My box God. My iron Jesus. Smash his face. Perfect. Any takebacks, giveaways, apologies. I already apologized. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And I, and I want to say thank you for that. And I would like to thank you for apologizing because that, that means a lot to me. I don't know why I, I didn't get an apology for that. And I kind of was backing you up Adam the whole time. Thank you. I would like to thank you as well. I apologize to you Ders as well.
Starting point is 01:15:04 I should have listened. They hard stance me like I don't know phantom planning. Yeah. Like the fact that's so in my wheelhouse of shit that I should know. Yeah. I'm sorry. Music from 2001 and two and three and four. Fuck I said I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Jesus. Come on. Yeah. That's okay. That's good. Today was pretty crazy, huh? Today we talked about everything. Yeah, we covered it all.
Starting point is 01:15:25 And Blake, I want to apologize to you. We didn't get to your vacations. I got a weird feeling. It's because maybe we don't care about him. No, I talked about Hawaii and how I was a bitch and that is true. That's I think that's how I kicked off. I already forgot and I feel bad. So you should apologize for forgetting.
Starting point is 01:15:42 I know I should. And this was another episode of... Did we all go through? How did you? What's up? Did you have any compliments? Oh. Compliments, apologies.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Yeah, I'd like to apologize for getting second hand lions in Ghost in the Darkness and mixed up. Thank you. Those are two completely different films. Good. Just about lions. Okay. Never heard of either.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Yeah, I do like them. Ghost in the Darkness is so fucking sick. And second hand lions, I think is a tearjerker. I feel like maybe I take a walk. Maybe before I watch Rush Hour and Men in Black, I go down this road first. Do you think that's more important or I should be watching Men in Black and Rush Hour?
Starting point is 01:16:23 Um, butterfly effect. Start there. Oh, that's right. Okay. And now this has been an episode. Oh, this is important. Is it? Also, just watch Blow Again.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Oh, dude. Oh, what's this? Oh, oh, shit. All right. Is this like a Christmas? Are you funny? Yes. For a second, there are the two disappeared.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Bro, so jealous of Schwarzman. Jealous of Schwarzman. Sorry, that was 15 seconds. All right. Great song. And we're done. And we're done. Last season, millions tuned into the Betrayal podcast
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