This Is Important - Ep 77: Dudes Gone Wild

Episode Date: March 15, 2022

Today, this is what's important: The education system, John Waters, the Porn Hub theme song, Girl's Gone Wild, how to be a billionaire, Tickled, National Lampoon, The Matrix, movie soundtracks, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hi, I'm David Eagleman. I have a new podcast called Inner Cosmos on iHeart. I'm going to explore the relationship between our brains and our experiences by tackling unusual questions like, can we create new senses for humans? So join me weekly to uncover how your brain steers your behavior, your perception, and your reality. Listen to Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last season, millions tuned into the Betrayal podcast to hear a shocking story of deception. I'm Andrea Gunning, and now we're sharing an all-new story of betrayal. Ashley Lytton was helping her husband set up a business Venmo account when she discovered

a terrible secret. I saw it in a folder, and I opened it. What the hell did I just see? Listen to season two of Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Between April 1971 and September 1972, six young black girls were snatched off the streets in Washington, D.C. This child was laying on the side of the road. The person said, I murdered your daughter. The killer believed that he may have been seen. I will admit the others when you catch me if you can. Signed Freeway Phantom. Listen to Freeway Phantom on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to This Is Important, a production of iHeart Radio, the show where we talk about what's

obviously most critically, crucially important. Today on This Is Important, bros whipping their dicks out in helicoptering it. I get my news on Pornhub. Yeah, I wonder how quickly we could get in gay porn. Durs sucked on my titty. And here we go. Oh boy. Boom. So fucking hot. I'm gonna take a couple deep breaths here. Here we go. We are in. Everybody take a deep breath.

That's a baseline right there. Let's take some deep breaths. Did you see the, uh, it was like a high school, uh, sort of talent show or something. And they did that riff. Yeah. Really? And the school lost their fucking minds. They went, I don't believe it. Like was it during like a marching band thing or was it like a talent show? No, it was like, it was like a pep rally or something.

And like the band was performing and then they just go boom, boom, boom, boom. And the school went wild. What's dope is that the teachers, you can't out yourself. You can't be like, well, you can't do because then everyone's like, well, how do you know what that is? I don't know. It's just, is that parliament? But then one teacher, or you might have been the vice principal pulled his cock out. It was like, okay, can we cut the commercial? Pulled his cock out and just started cranking down, dude.

This was on the video. It was like a Pavlovian response. He just started the uncontrollably pre. It was like he couldn't help himself. He just heard the noise and just tried to crank it down. That's hot, bro. You gotta watch the video. Your boobs are huge.

Oh, shit. Because as we've established, most teachers are generally just 99% of the time trying to fuck students. What? They can't. 69, dude. What? That's our education system? Yeah.

What? That's our... We've established that? Dude, well, we've established, I mean, this might have been when Kyle was on his sabbatical, but... Right. Yeah. Hi, Adis.

Yeah, he was high. I was high as fuck. We've established that kids are too fucking sexy, dudes. And it's not these teachers' fault. They can't help themselves. And Adam, can I give you a shout out? Because you said it just kind of... You said it a little bit now and you said it before and I didn't catch it.

These kids are getting damn sexy. These kids are getting... Is from a sketch we did way back in the day. It is, it is. Oh, yeah. What was that? Isn't it the one sketch we did about a teacher fucking... A current affairs student?

Oh, yes. It was... We did one. I played a student who my teacher had sex with me. Yes. Because you were too fucking sexy. I was super stoked on it and she was in prison. Well, you know, your teacher raped you.

Yeah. Because like, it's statutory. Statutory or early... We did a lot of fun rape comedy back in the day. Well, this is an interesting thing because it's like, this dude just scored with his teacher, but in the eyes of the law... Lady Liberty. And he was like, yes, she raped me like, I guess 20 times under the bleachers and here.

She raped me there. He was all stoked on it. And then I played a cool gym teacher with a thick stash. It really worked that stash for all that I could. Yeah, was that one mustache that we kept reapplying to your face? And I bet we had only one mustache in our makeup box, right? We had a few. Maybe two.

I think that was post-crossbows and mustaches. So I think we had like six or seven. Dude, we used to have a tackle box, like a fucking fishing tackle box. A kinkaboodle that had the mustaches in it. Makeup, any sort of props. I like how Blake says, is that the mustache we kept applying on you? Like you would just hold you down and put it on your face? Not again.

I'll never do this character again. It's going to be funny. Trust us. I don't want to. Put it on. Put it on, Adam. You're funnier with the mustache. Why?

The way that it moves when you move your upper lip, it's hilarious. Yeah, you were doing that. Yeah. You had a lot of fun with that mustache. Oh, which it was. It is. You can do a lot. We could post that, Ben.

God, I really wish Adam would put in a few years with a mustache, but he just refused. What are you waiting for, bro? We know. Dude, puberty. Yeah. I can't grow a mustache. You have like a pencil mustache, right?

You got a thick caterpillar on your upper lip. I got nothing, bud. Mine's wispy as fuck. I look like a 1920s Frenchman. Man. I'm a man. Yeah, you look like a guy from The Artist. What's the one with the dog?

The dog won the Oscar. Yeah, with a little pencil thin with like a little. Yeah, the artist. Oh, yeah. A little. What's that one director's name? What's that guy's name? He has a really skinny.

John Waters. Yeah, John Waters style. Yeah, dude. John Waters. Can we give flowers to John Waters? Well, now he's going to die. Oh, you're right. I'll take it back.

I'll take it back. You just buried that, man. Yeah, way to go. Fuck him. Serial Mom isn't in my top 10 greatest movies of all time. Wink Wank. Serial Mom is his flick? Yeah, yeah.

People worship John Waters. Oh, my gosh. I'm not super deep on him. No, me neither. I don't know much. He's amazing. He's like a mayhem, dude, right? Like he just likes to cause chaos.

Doesn't he have like, I feel like I have a book by him that's just like, cause chaos. Yeah. Really? Pink and stuff. The original Disruptor. Like Pink Flamingo is insane. You watch it and you're like, this is wild.

I don't know it. Yeah. His whole thing, he's kind of like a Baltimore legend. I heard he like just kind of hangs out. He's a scene stirrer, just supposedly like a cool, weird dude. Yeah. I've never been in a room with him. The Rippin' in the Terran.

Sorry about it. John Waters, he directed that clip. Yo, I've never been to Baltimore actually, but I've heard Baltimore is like a pretty weird, cool city. Yeah. I think if you like are from there and you're down, it's like you really fall in love with it. If you know like the cool alternative spots, it's not,

it feels like it's kind of a dying city. And a lot of times when cities like that are dying, they have a really cool subculture. Like art community. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's because housing gets really cheap. And then like artists move in and they For sure.

Yeah. Fucking start throwing shit on the walls and it's dope. Yeah. Yeah. They start making artisanal doughnuts and everyone loses their mind. Oh, yeah. The moving of the nightmare.

Yeah. And then the kids play at the talent show and play the Pornhub theme song. And the crowd goes, wow. Hit us with it, Blake. Mm-hmm. 69, dude. Your boobs are huge.

Man, it is kind of tough to not have a Pavlovian response to that. Like when you do hear that, it is rough. Like you're like, well, that's what I hear normally when it's about to go down. A lot of times they don't even watch the videos. I'll just listen to that over and over. On loop.

Yeah, I'll play that on loop and just go to Cranktown. Yeah. What was that? Who's the Pornhub house band? Who came up with that riff? That's garage band. You think? Yeah.

I bet it's a catalog. Maybe it's like a free noise that you can just snake. You think? I bet it's a catalog because a lot of people grab it. The whole thing or you think somebody just made it on garage band? Is there more than that riff? I bet.

No, no, I'm saying like those are several instruments. I'm saying that somebody just take a bass and. I'm betting that it comes from a catalog and then they just used it. Yeah. I bet you're right. And then they just took it. That's like the same with Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Their theme song is a catalog song that you can get in.

Because I remember scrolling through catalogs and we used to make it and be like, this is Sunny. It's them. This is free. Yeah. Really? I didn't know that. That's interesting.

But so then anybody can use it? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what they've done since. Maybe in hindsight, they went back and bought it. But yeah, I don't know. I think you could just use it. Do you guys remember when my mom, remember Girls Gone Wild?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, dude. That's the VHS days. Da, da, da, da. Well, I don't know. I'm not getting that. That's not it. Not exactly.

We could play it for people. We'll post it. We need to find that. But the Girls Gone Wild theme song was a free noise. A free sound and. It was steel drums kind of, yeah. Love steel drums. My mom just liked this song, and it was her ringtone for years.

Well, hang on, hang on, because I think you're. Weird, wild stuff. The way you're describing this is confusing. You're saying your mom liked the Girls Gone Wild song. She didn't know it was that song. She picked that. No, my mom's horny as fuck. No, we know.

You come from a long line of sluts. We established that a couple weeks ago. His mom was on a mailing list where she had Jerry Springer too hot for TV. She was gay. Backyard wrestling. Backyard wrestling. And bum fights. She was a huge bum fights person.

No, no. My mom just heard it on her, on like her phone of free ringtones. Exactly. And my mom's cheap didn't want to buy a ringtone. I get it. And she just liked that steel drum noise. It reminded her of the Caribbean. Well, there's a reason.

It's a hit. And then she, but she would play, you know, it was her ringtones who would go off all the time. And it was the Girls Gone Wild theme song. And I love it. And what's crazy now is that it's come full circle because you and Joe Francis vacation a lot together. Right? Constantly.

We're huge. Cut to commercials. We're old friends. Cut to commercials. Cut to commercials. You guys play pickleball together, right? Right? Right?

Cut to commercials. I said. Have you gone wild with him? Yeah. I finally picked up pickleball and didn't do it with my homie Kyle. Pickle gone wild, bro. Me and him get wild. We've gone wild with us, Bilzerian, Jeremy Piven, and other local creeps.

Hey. Whoa. Hi, I'm David Eagleman. I have a new podcast called Inner Cosmos on iHeart. I'm a neuroscientist and an author at Stanford University. And I've spent my career exploring the three pound universe in our heads. On my new podcast, I'm going to explore the relationship between our brains and our experiences by tackling unusual questions so we can better understand our lives and

our realities. Like, does time really run in slow motion when you're in a car accident? Or can we create new senses for humans? Or what does dreaming have to do with the rotation of the planet? So join me weekly to uncover how your brain steers your behavior, your perception, and your reality. Listen to Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. On the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Last season, millions tuned into the Betrayal podcast to hear a shocking story of deception. I'm Andrea Gunning, and now we're sharing an all new story of Betrayal. Ashley Lytton was helping her husband set up a business Venmo account when she discovered a terrible secret. I scrolled down, and that's when I saw a hidden folder, and I opened it. What the hell did I just see? I was scared that he was coming home. What Ashley discovered that day was a secret so dark, she feared for her life.

She was like, oh my god, I gotta get out of the house. He's gonna find out that I've seen this, he's gonna come kill me. Listen to Season 2 of Betrayal on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Between April 1971 and September 1972, six young black girls were snatched off the streets in Washington, DC. It took four murders before the police finally realized that one person was responsible. I will admit the others when you catch me if you can. Signed freeway fan.

This child was laying on the side of the road. It appeared that she was probably either dragged out of the car or thrown out of the car. The person said, I murdered your daughter. The killer believed that he may have been seen by the mother. That guy is, he's out of sync with even the worst people. I thought that they would catch him. I thought it was just a matter of time. Is it possible that the killer is still alive?

Listen to Freeway Phantom on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Girls Gone Wild, that motherfucker was just going to like colleges or small spring break towns or whatever and saying, Hey, get in this van and I'm going to film you in your like my t-shirts and stuff while you're black out drunk. It was a very problematic. Right. And it was mostly like titties. He became a billionaire in like three years.

With a B homie. Billionaire. For sure. Well, sex sells, baby. What's weird about that? Yes, because he went from those tapes to DVDs, which are hyper inexpensive to publish and make and whatever. And he had like orders where like if you were on for one, you started getting them monthly

and college kids, it was like the new Playboy magazine. When you moved out of your parents place, you just got Girls Gone Wild to the crib. All right. So I'm queuing up Joe Francis Networth. Yeah. Well, now he lost it all. He went to jail. I'm glad we're giving, we're putting the spotlight back on Joe.

We want to guess how much he has. Now? Right now? 200 million. 400,000. I think he's in jail. But he was a billionaire. I'm saying 400,000.

I'm saying 40 million. You're looking at the number. I'm not. I haven't looked it up yet. I'm going to say 25 million. Okay. 200 million. 200 million.

He was a billionaire. He went to high school with our manager. Who cares? Allegedly. 25 million. Whoa. Yes. Nice.

Blake was on. Thank you. Yeah. Good job. I know Joe. So he was a billionaire. I'm sorry. What was that?

He was a billionaire? Really? No, this is a question. I'm looking for it. There's no way. I do not see anywhere where he's a billionaire. A billion is a lot of money. Yeah.

It's a ton of money. By the way, thank you. Because sometimes I'm like, what is a billion? And it's a ton of money. How many billionaires are on earth? Well, there's a lot more now, right? Like the bell curve has gotten so that you can achieve bill. You can achieve a-

You can get to bill. Bill used to be way unobtainable, but now- I mean, it's not easy, but it's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, it's so stupid. Ever since Homeboy made that song and then crashed the jet ski- Wampum Gangnam style?

Oh, Sean Kingston. I want to be a billionaire so bad. Was that his song? Oh, yeah. I know that song. Is that him? Hold up. Or am I thinking of-

I want to be a billionaire. That's all. I don't know. That's him. Now I'm confusing the suicidal. Suicidal. Oh, that's a great track. Oh, that's a great track.

A billionaire. Oh, dude, it's tough. I'm telling you, it's super tough. Well, Joe Francis is kind of a hunt. Adam's deep diving. Stop. Stop juicing up Joe, man. The guy's a scumbag.

Yeah, he's scuzzard. He's a scuzzard. Dude, but he's kind of sexy. You think you could get chicks without luring them into his van for free t-shirts and glow sticks and shit, but- That was the business plan. But that's the thing. He was all about the B, bro.

He was all about the B. He's chasing the fucking B. I don't know. I feel like our producers, I'm not finding it. They need to dig in the crates and find if he has ever had a billion dollars, because right now it's saying 25 mil. He was a billionaire. There's no way.

Does that change who he is? Yes, now you want to kick it with him. No, come on, guys. It's not about changing. I don't think he made that amount of money off of that, off of Girls Gone White. I don't think so either. I don't think he kissed a billion.

I think he made a lot of money, but I don't think- I think back then it was hard to be a billionaire. There was only like fucking Bill Gates and fucking like Joe Francis. Yes, Kim K just touched a billion, and she's infinitely more successful and famous than that. Hold up, hold up. She only had one video. This dude had multiple videos.

No way. Hold up. You're saying Bill Gates had 85 billion in like 2003. So like people have been billionaires. Oh, really? But Bill Gates is an exceptional- Yeah, but Bill Gates like changed the world. Yeah, he's an exceptional human being.

I'm just saying. This guy changed the way we've viewed titties. Yeah, so not really. Joe Francis was at the height of DVD explosion. So was Dave Chappelle. Yes. Yes, and he made a lot of money, and that was only on one show. This guy-

He didn't make a billion. Yes, his titties weren't out. Well, he didn't own Comedy Central. Right. What are you talking about? He didn't own Viacom. Joe Francis owned his own Viacom called Girls Gone Wild. Play the song, Blake.

I don't have this. I only have the Bornhub song. God damn it. He would drunkenly let people fucking sign a release form. Drunkenly they'd sign a release form. We know he's a scumbag. And then it'd be in it. He'd be covered.

It'd be fine. He's a scuzzer. The question isn't about whether or not he's a scumbag. He's a scuzzer. He's a scuzzer. We get it. For sure. He's a scuzzer.

He's a scuzzer. But is he a billion-dollar scuzzer? Pretty sexy scuzzer, though. OK, we got something here. I can't find evidence that he ever made a billion dollars. OK, no evidence. Maybe the company made a billion dollars? There's no way he made a billion dollars.

I bet my life on it. I'll sepaku right here if I'm wrong. What if you just exploded? Wow, dude. You would sepaku? You're just putting sepaku on the line? There's no way he's a billionaire. There's no way.

You know, he kind of looks like... Johnny Brendan. No, but he looks like Johnny Brendan. He looks like a Dambosarian a little bit. Yeah, it's a vibe. Yeah, they're cut from the same cloth. It's the same like... Predators.

Thick-necked jock. Yeah, fucking predators. Thank you. Predators. Thank you, Blake. Thank you, Blake. Scuzzards. Yeah, they're fucking scuzzards.

Predator scuzzes. A flock of scuzzards. Joe Francis, a thick-necked jock? Yeah. He seems like a dork. In this photo, he looks like he's... Well, now, but like back then... Isn't a buzzard...

Yeah, they're fucking buzzard as a fucking predator, too. They eat the dead, don't they? No, that's a scavenger, not a predator. They're scavenger, yes. Oh, a scavenger. So, yeah. These are scavengers. He's kind of a scavenger, huh?

He finds them, you know? Picks them over. I think you nailed it. Were you guys ever... Did you guys ever think like, oh, tonight I'm going to get probably super wasted and then tomorrow I'm going to wake up and I'm going to beat in a fucking porno?

Why weren't... Dude, why weren't their dudes gone mild? Why weren't there just bros whipping their dicks out and helicoptering it? I guarantee you they were. I'm sure. Like, that's a real thing. There's a 100% chance that in West Hollywood,

the thing is, is we were there. We weren't cute enough to get asked. Right. It wasn't about being cute, it's just no, you whip your dick. Yeah, it was like, are you going to do it? No, it's about being cute. No, yeah.

There's a standard for the people watching these videos. Dude, we were walking around West Hollywood just at the time. That guy's gone wild was definitely being filmed in West Hollywood, and we were in those streets, never were approached. Wait, that's a thing? No. Of course it's a thing.

No. It's just they just aren't going to pay for ad space on commercial television because people are like, you know, we don't want that. But if you go to the store or you go online, I guarantee you there was dudes gone wild. Blake, there is 100% possibility that guys gone wild was a thing.

I am saying that, it probably does, but I'm not saying we wouldn't have made the cut. I'm not saying we're having like a whole section dedicated to us, but we're in a montage whipping our dicks out. Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm saying we were there. It's a quick cut. We were in the place that it was happening.

We were in West Hollywood. We were there every day. We lived there. But we never had our dicks out. We were never approached. We weren't, and if we were, you already know. I feel like on Halloween, we would have done it. On Halloween.

Well, you feel that, but it never happened. And they were there. It's true, it's true. They were looking. The gay Joe Francis's were out there scoping the scene, and they looked at you right in the eyes and go, nah. We're going to pass.

Nah. Adam, do you think that back then, if you were like looking for it, you could have found it and just made it happen? Oh, yeah. It looking for it? If I was looking to pull my dick out. Why I always was.

Yeah, I know you were. So, so maybe not. So maybe not. You could trip and fall on a dick. Yeah, no, it's not hard to get. It's not hard to trip and fall into the world of gay porno. That's not hard. Of pornography.

How long do you think it would take you? All you have to do is go to a gym in LA. Tomorrow morning. You should do this. Tomorrow morning. I bet Blake would have a harder time getting into gay porno than he thinks it would. There's already a dude named Blake Anderson in gay porn.

I know because it pops up on my Twitter. Yeah, exactly. That's a hurdle. That's a hurdle. Every once in a while, people will send me photos of me getting butt fucked that are photoshopped. Fuck it. Of like gay pornos that they photoshop like my face on.

Yeah, rude. And every once in a while, I get those in the old DMs, which is pretty cool. Cool, baby. Hey, everybody listening at home, we are entering minute 17 of this conversation. Yollie. This is important.

Yeah, coming in hot. That's my bad. You should have saved this for 69. Let's loop back around. Call this one 69 again. That shit's important. 69 take two. How about those rams?

How about the rams? I had no couple rams. Hey. What's up? Hey. Want to talk about rams? I'll talk about rams all day, baby. Fullback.

Yeah, I wonder how quickly we could get in gay porn. If you set out tomorrow, do you think you'd be doing it within 48 hours, like doing it, filming within 48 hours? What? Well, I think now, because of the internet, I would just go and find gay porn producers and hit them up. And then, yes, I could.

And so 48 hours? And in 48 hours, I could be, uh... I mean, you can get an audition. You could get a read. Do you think you could be doing it in 24 hours? I bet I could do it this afternoon. Do you think in seven hours? That's insane.

Hold up. No. Dude, no. I'm like, I don't think if I was just a person, but I'm an actor that... We're actors that people know. A gay porn producer would go, oh, fuck yeah.

Come here, I'll fuck you right now and film it. He would... He'd clean his slate for the day. It's like, if you're like, dude, I'm on the fucking edge. I need to go now. I need it in the next two hours. I need it now. Film me, because this may pass.

I'm hard now. Let's fucking film it, Jack. I'm ready to shoot now, Jack. I'm ready to shoot now, Jack. I won't shoot you. I won't shoot you in the state. The state of California. Yeah, exactly.

Man. Let's go. By the way, I tried to talk about the Rams. I think now after, you know, being on... In TV and movies and stuff, yes. But I don't think before we were in TV and movies, I think we would have had a harder go of it. Hey, kind of a segue.

Did you guys ever see that documentary... Let's talk about segues. Tickled? What? Did you guys ever see the documentary tickled? Yes. No. Is that like a fetish thing?

It takes some crazy turns. It's unbelievable. It's basically interviewing these guys who replied to a craigslist posting years ago, where it was like, outgoing, want to have fun. Don't mind having some of your clothes off. And these guys are like, yeah, whatever. I was like, looking for cash.

And I... Wait, you were? No, no, no. I'm these guys. Documentaries being the guys. These people, I am not. They responded and they showed up. And it was like, all right, so here's the deal.

This is Mike. Mike, this is whoever. You guys are going to wrestle for a little bit, playfully. And then you're going to start tickling each other. And I'm going to film it. I think I saw you in this. This was that Kid Rock music video you were in. That was real.

We're posting that now. And so they were like, yeah, okay, fuck it. And then they had to fill out payment information and they had all this stuff. And so then the guy behind the production that they who they never met started extorting them. He'd be like, let's do more. And then they would do like nude tickling.

And then they would be like, we have a social security number. We know your last job. If you don't do another video, we're going to tell everybody at Applebee's that you are doing naked tickling videos. And they were like emailing stuff. And this is like some fucking. Dude, it gets crazy.

This is like Nexium. It's an amazing documentary. It's a crazy doc. It's a really good doc. And then they find out who it was. And it's just some kind of rich guy who's got enough money to buy some dudes like trucks to have them like work for him.

Like here's a new pickup truck. Now go scout for boys. And like he watches these videos. It's a whole power thing. It's awesome. Tickle. Well, what a weird documentary because it feels like these guys were getting blackmailed

and they didn't want anyone to know that they did these weird sort of homoerotic tickling videos. And then they made a whole documentary about how they did these weird homoerotic tickling videos. Yeah, but they're telling their side of the story. It's like hindsight. To the point of like, this is illegal and criminal and fucking horrid.

And we need to expose this person. By all means necessary. It's less embarrassing than it is something they want to clear their names from, if that makes sense. That would be... Yeah, I guess that's kind of, with most documentaries, it's after all the smoke is cleared and they want to just like tell their side of the story.

But I feel like if it must have came out before like Twitter was super hot because now if a good doc comes out, that should go as mad viral. Everybody watches it. If that came out during the beginning of the pandemic, people be tickling. Yeah, we would have been tickling each other for sure.

We would have all made our tickling vids. It's so good. And by the way, you watch it and then you also are like... Well, kind of the opposite. I was going to say like... No, you never responded to that ad. You still responded to these things and they're like... They kind of knew what was up.

Like don't go to the Craigslist ad that says tickled with no clothes on. But it got dark. These dudes were getting like, their bosses were getting emails. They were getting fired. Their family were being told all this stuff. Suggestive photos were being put out there. It fucking tickled my fancy. Came out in 2016.

Do you remember what the first doorway into it was? Like how much dough? What was the trade for tickling? Like what was it? Do you remember that? A few hundred bucks. Oh, it sounds nice. Yeah.

But imagine dude, back in the day when we were like really struggling... When Joe Francis was a billionaire. If this is something you were open to and it was like, here's $400, that's a no-brainer. If it was like, hey, we need you to come tickle these girls, you'd be like, that doesn't seem like a problem for me. Right. Right.

Then it just turns out, I wouldn't show up to that. No, absolutely not. That sounds scary. You know what I mean? Yes. Blake, we were in Ratco, the dictator side. Yeah, but that's just national lampoon. There was no...

You're telling me you guys didn't tickle? But that was national lampoon. That's a name you can trust. We've done just as embarrassing things that we were paid less for. Yeah. No, that is not on the same level, bro. No, that was national lampoon, dude. That is a reputable company, okay?

That is comedy royalty. Of course, I'm going to be in that. In one decade. Yeah, it was comedy royalty in the 80s. Man. Well, how are we supposed to know it died out? Yeah. I didn't know we were scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Go to a video rental store. Hey, I'm right there with you. How are we supposed to know they sold it? And we're like just using the name and... Because we went to the owner's house. Yeah, but it's true. What did that... What does that mean?

Right before he got arrested for like tax evasion. Bro, national lampoon, the best. National lampoon had a crazy, crazy story arc for sure. Someone needs to make a movie about that. Wait, they did it. Did they? Yeah, it was like... Did they go into the details of later years though?

That's the more interesting shit. They made it about the early years, right? Like the birth. Yeah, like that's fine. I want to know about the scuzzards. Yeah. National scuzzards. So we all worked for national lampoon, which back in the day,

national lampoon obviously was a huge deal with Animal House and... The Vacation Fransons. Christmas Vacation movies. Did you say Van Wilder? Van Wilder. Van Wilder kept them alive. And then by the time we got around to them, they were making movies called Ratco the Dictator Son.

And it's me and Adam. Awesomest Maximus? Awesomest Maximus, that's right. We were also in that with Will Sasso. Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad movies. Dude, it was bad. It was me and you in a room with Dennis Haskins, Mr. Belding. And oh god, it was uncomfortable.

It was bad. And a bunch of porn stars who had body odor issues. It was bad. Yeah, oh god, it was bad. Like guys or women? Women, yeah. They were funky? And we tickled them.

We tickled them. Do you love him? No, it was really, really bad. So I get it. Well, we were coming from a place of like, we want to do comedy and this used to be a respectable company. You know what makes people laugh? Tickling.

And we want to get in the industry. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's where we were coming from. It wasn't just we're going to make $500 and we're going to, you know, take our shirts off and tickle each other's nipples. Yeah. No, we thought we were going to carry the torch for Lampoon.

We thought we were the next fucking Belushi. Dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, what can you do? What was it? The Lemmings, specifically the rebirth of the Lemmings, bro.

And they had a great first cast. What you guys are shitting on, by the way, you stuck around. And we did the live sketch stuff after those movies, right? No. We didn't have a fucking choice, dude. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

Was it after? I think it was all happening at the same time. It was a big, like long, like maybe probably year and a half, two year run. Right. But all those things can happen exactly at the same time. Two years, right? Two year span with National Lampoon, maybe?

Yeah, maybe year and a half to two years. Yeah. Dude, remember Adam, we also did that fucking weird ass sketch comedy thing that was called 72 Virgins. And it was about these two, like, frat bros who basically go to what they think is a frat, but it's a sleeper cell for terrorists. And they, like, convince us. And it went on, like, CNN and shit.

Yes. It was very viral. It made some noise. Like the Drudge Report or whatever. Yeah, it was crazy. And it was just, like, we were just, I don't know, just fucking saying yes to whatever. But, you know, it was just weird. That was a funny, at least a funny conceit.

I mean, we spent a whole summer, we spent a whole entire summer working on the fucking live show. It was, like, a summer of our lives. And we got paid, like, 300 bucks. We said we got paid in gum and shit. Hey, not my fault. Not my fault. We got paid in gum.

We talked about it. Not my fault. Oh, yeah, right, right, right. Go girl, energy. Go girl, energy. Yeah, yeah, that's right. So that being said, I think maybe, you know, I don't know if you would have tickled each other, but we did do some things.

I had to look back and I'm like, yeah, buddy. I mean, I tucked my dick between my legs on stage. That's as close to tickling another person as I was getting. Yeah, you did. I mean, I've shown my butthole in Game Over, man. So we've all done things. Yeah. So what are we talking about here?

I'm actually proud of that, but... You're proud of that, but... Yeah, Ders sucked on my... Ders sucked on my titty. Ders sucked on my titty. Yes, we all do things. Goodbye. And by the way, Kyle Blackmail me about it.

I did. I did. Sorry about that. I air that out. It happens, man. Oh, and then the issue was it came out like they held on to the movie for years. What movie? Are we talking about the 72 virgins?

Because that was just a trailer. No, I forget. I think it was Ratco, The Dictator's Son. Okay. And then they held on to that forever. And then it came out like right as Workaholics was coming out. Yeah, that's right. And then they were pairing Ratco, The Dictator's Son with Workaholics episodes.

On Comedy Central? Like on Comedy Central. By the way, the main character in Ratco is Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite. I don't know the actors. Yes, Efren Ramirez, I believe. Yes, but he was the main... He's Ratco. That's sick.

I don't think I've ever watched the movie, but maybe it's funny. It's probably highly offensive. I bet there's a chance that you would think it's funny in a way that you like bad stuff. You know what I mean? Dude, comedy is offensive. No one to make. Blake made his favorite type of movie. And he hasn't even watched it.

Objectively bad. I don't know. I don't know if I have the patience for it anymore. I don't know if I could sit down and just watch Ratco. Yeah, you're always so busy like doing stuff. I am, man. You've got to be... Yeah, not watching stuff.

Like not always watching stuff. I listen to pods now, man. I don't watch movies. Bitch, name five podcasts you listen to. See? I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to.

I don't want to. I'm not trying to get free press, man. Besides this one? I'm not trying to get free press. Hi, I'm David Eagleman. I have a new podcast called Inner Cosmos on iHeart. I'm a neuroscientist and an author at Stanford University, and I've spent my career exploring the three-pound universe in our heads.

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It took four murders before the police finally realized that one person was responsible. I will admit the others when you catch me, if you can. Signed freeway phantom. This child was laying on the side of the road. It appeared that she was probably either dragged out of the car or thrown out of the car. The person said, I murdered your daughter. The killer believed that he may have been seen by the mother. Did my mother swallow?

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Matrix one, the goat, the best. I realized I hadn't seen that movie since 1999. I don't think I've ever watched it again. I don't know if I have either. You saw it in the theater though, right? Yeah, I saw it in the theater. The graphics for the most part, hold up. They're fucking awesome.

They're better than the graphics in the new one. Yeah. You guys are talking about the visual effects, right? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Turbo graphics 16. Well, that was fucking bullet time, bro. That shit was so cool.

You know, that was the invention of bullet time. That changed the goddamn game. The only part that was kind of whack was when Agent Smith kind of, uh... Mr. Anderson. He like explodes and then his like face comes past and he like, it's like lightning and then he kind of explodes. That looked a little cheesy, but I would say everything else looked really fucking cool.

But they could argue stylistic choice. The only thing that bothered me was the mouth didn't, when it like his mouth closes shut or whatever, it like soups together. Yeah, that's right. Why does that happen? Like his mouth? Because in his mind, they did that. Whereas if he knew it was a matrix, he'd be like,

fuck you, this is not real. Right. He just, they just erased the mouth, right? I haven't seen it since 99. His mouth starts to like melt together. Right. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's like...

It looks like bubble gum. Right. Yeah. Which by the way... Oh yeah, I kind of remember it's like stringy. Would freak me out. Yeah. If somebody went like this and then my mouth turned gone,

I'd be like, okay, I gotta go. I was just thinking like, no wonder why that kind of spawned a generation of fucking weirdos who thought like the matrix was real. Because the soundtrack was so sick. You know what I mean? You know how like there was like a weird time where like kids dressed in all black, like they're Neo and... Yeah, trench coat mafia.

Yeah, trench coat mafia was the whole thing. Yeah, totally trench coat mafia kids. And they're like, no, the matrix is real for sure. Red pill, blue pill. They're still like that. Yeah. Yeah. Like of course, because the movie was fucking awesome.

Yeah, what are you talking about? Red pill is like bigger than ever. Yeah. But I think what it was like, a lot of that stuff was practical, right? Like when they were like running down the hallways, that's all like wire work and shit. It's not necessarily all CGI and like the cameras that spin around was like a real like technology they developed. That's the bullet time. Yeah, that's the bullet time thing where they would...

They had a hundred cameras in a circle, right? Which is fucking cool. That's very cool. Yeah. Well, it's however many cameras it was to do the 360 degrees and then they would... That's how they rotated. 360? Yeah, dude.

For the outlaws, I just had to do where you step into like a booth. It's basically like a kind of a giant phone booth and then there's thousands of cameras. Well, that's just so they can get your image and then they can create a CGI like stunt person. Version of you. Yeah, stunt person. That's so cool. Yeah. And so they like had me in all kinds of different positions and then I'm spinning around and they just...

It was really cool. That tech we would have used on like the... We would have used that tech on probably the fucking the zipline sequence in Game Over Man, but it wasn't even there at that point when we built that, you know? Oh, really? It's that new. It's that new new. It's new.

Those little trailers? Yeah, those trailers are new. I think they're doing that as like insurance policy because I just did that for my fucking comedy about my father, De Niro comedy down in Mobile, which I'm like... I play a game of tennis and they were like, well, we're just going to get it. And I think they could just paint you in later. Like they're like... Tennis?

That's exactly right. They do a full body scan. They're just doing it anyway so that they don't have to do as many reshoots. Yes. It's a way to put you in the movie without you being there. Yeah. Yeah, it's a full body scan. Wait, so wait, wait, wait.

This is just a tennis game or are you like pulling off some like sick, like diving or like what? What? It's just a tennis game, but I think if they needed to like reshoot it, they could shoot it with somebody else and then just paint my face on there. Whoa. Yeah. We scan everybody in every outfit on shadows. Like really?

All the creatures, all the everything so that you have all the pieces of information that you need in post-production so that then you can like, you're not in a jam. Cool, cool. You can fucking put the shoulder in right there if you wanted to or what not. That is really weird. Well, it also leads me to believe like, thank God we at least have the beginnings of careers. Because it'd be so hard to be like just a 20 year old kid trying to get in the industry now because in five to 10 years, they're just going to go, well, we're just going to have young Tom

Cruz and we're just going to paint him in to be the star of this movie. I mean, we're close. Which brings us back to dudes gone wild, man. Blake, stop it. I'm going to say yes to that. Yeah, you can still tell though. You can't have them act. It's not really good.

We just went down the road of doing like a CG character in with other people. It's not really fully there, but in 10 years possibly. Yeah, but they're already doing it in 10 years. No, no, no. They're getting away with little pieces. This is the way. Aren't they doing like a James Dean movie? Yes, they are.

They are. They're doing a, they cast James Dean in a flick. And I like his sausages. Don't get me wrong. I just don't know if I want. It's science. You know. That's her point, Jimmy.

I think we may have like brushed upon it like a long, long, long time ago. But. Points. Yes, points. No points. He didn't like giving him. He didn't like giving us back. What was it for?

The matrix might have been one of the greatest soundtracks ever. Get the fuck out of here. In Skit City. What the fuck are you talking about? The score or the soundtrack? The soundtrack, bro. The score was cool. You guys are tripping.

I name me one song. Okay, hang on. Blake, I listened to it last night. I watched the movie last night. The soundtrack to the matrix. I just watched it two weeks ago. Meet Beat Manifesto, Rage Against the Machine. They had Prodigy.

I know, I know. But it was such, it was so of the time. No, it still goes so hard. Yes, it does. But it feels like it's in the late 90s. No, the matrix soundtrack is still a vibe, dude. You guys are absolutely crazy. I can name you several soundtracks that are so much better.

Starting with the Crow soundtrack. The Crow is great. Daisy and Confuse. Double Disks. Matrix is up there. It's a vibe. Well, hell yeah it is. It's not a vibe that you might like.

Dude, even the matrix thing. Not for me. That's the worst song on the soundtrack and that song is even sick. Isn't that the Def Tones? No, they have a song on it though. It's Chemical Brothers on there, right? Blake, you're not wrong, man. These two are wrong.

Thank you. These two are absolutely wrong. Yeah, they're tripping. You guys need to revisit well. No, I'm just saying I I you're on you're on some chemical brother I watched it last night and last night. I was going like I like everything about this movie except for the soundtrack Yes, I agree with you that opening fight scene with Carrie and mosses off the rich or stripping I just was like oh, it's two of this time. They should have picked more classic songs. Isn't that fucking cool though? That's cool. What's wrong with that? That was right there. It's two of this time. No

Like it's Yeah, well Blake has a special place in his heart because that that fucking soundtrack scored all of our They were Because it was sorry, it was the end of his favorite decade We were coming into the millennium scary time why to I mean, yeah, dude, it was Prodigy, it was Rob Zombie. It was Romstein. Yes, you know all fuck Hammers, yes, it was Marilyn Manson. It was too. Yes much the late 90s By the way, this is like what homeboys were like slang fools in Columbine, too. They were like, yes, turn that shut up

I'm sorry. I'm sorry that the music evokes crazy aggressive emotion because it's so well done. No, like I'm sorry I'm sorry that it fuels a fire of aggression proven. Is this proven on there? No, yeah, yeah Those kids when they became billionaires and then they went to school allegedly With a six-hour Didn't they hack into the PA system and play Marilyn Manson while they were walking the halls to shoot people I think so Dude, I think I do recall that. Oh, yeah, Blake, and you just loved it. Didn't you you just love Okay, well Blake's favorite soundtrack is Columbine. Come on, dude. That's not fair. Yeah, that's just what I heard

You just you just went into something else and I don't in monster magnet. I listen to the matrix soundtrack I'm a good guy. All right, and I think it still goes hard and I'm not gonna about to put it on a PA It goes hard for 1999, dude. It's still fire Manson man, it's prodigy. It's Rob Zombie. Yes, it's monster magnet I'm telling you Rob meet me manifesto. It's rage against the machine dude. It's all sick, dude Hive ultrasonic sound judgment judgment night soundtrack You know what I'll say this I bet you the movie hackers has a better soundtrack Okay, wait similar similar. I know I already know it's gonna be better

I didn't own that whatever they were rollerblading to I meant I think sneaker pimps were on there six underground sneaker pimps. Ooh, I love that song orbital But I think that's Romeo and Juliet. Oh, don't that sounds like right there movies of this time Leans too hard in and the music of the time and then that music didn't transcend I'm sorry that these movies were coming out during the best music era. It's not their fault They're no no no no no no of the time dude this this isn't the best The best music era is puddle of mud and fuel So you're so your favorite soundtrack is like orange County movie what it what's your favorite?

It's the scorpion with God's Mac Blow is my favorite soundtrack. Yeah, but blow is using like movie from this music from the 70s. Yeah, that's all that's of that time Yeah, well what they do when they do classic movies like that. It's Hits No, it's there the fucking monster magnet. No one's listening to monster magnet anymore But that's it that but but this brings up a good point because what you're able to do with a period piece is use hindsight, right? Like sure, I love the stay by me soundtrack. They had the hindsight to go. These are the real fucking hits Matrix it was of that time

Sure, so what they didn't they didn't have the wherewithal to go This is gonna be good later, but guess what did the crow soundtrack? It's so much better Fuck off, bro. The crow soundtrack is the top ten soundtrack for sure track all time and by the way, what's uh, nobody What's the fucking Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker movies those sound shall we're bangers? Yes Another you know, what are you guys talking? You're talking computer movies, right? Yeah Wargames, I don't know about the soundtrack. I can run to you. It's good Doon or the net. What about the net that probably a great What's the song from the net

What is the main song from the net? Forced soundtrack red disc or blue disc See that's also not fair. That's hindsight. What the fuck is that? I'm just saying what's red disc or blue disc is that how they split it up There was a red disc and a blue disc and it was like I kind of believe it was chronological where the Red disc was earlier songs in the blue discs I feel like but I feel like they that the first disc was so hot that they dropped a second Disc on people. No, it was the record sales double doggy. That's a spence of ass movie, man. It's a mega expensive

Yeah, that's a spence of ass. I'm not a smart man Oh Cool I love that movie. I tried to look up on itunes, uh a song from the net and it is just not good It's not coming up. What do you mean? It's not coming up. It's like it doesn't exist greatest soundtrack of all time Like this is official and confused. No, no, no greatest soundtrack of all time. No harder. They fall 100% What the fuck is that? It's harder. They fall. Huh? Just it's google it It's the best

It's like what movie two to the main tall is the heart of that dude wedding singer Now did joe frances produce this or austin powers? That's the only films i'm into had a great soundtrack Yes, it did bbc one Wait, how do they fall the the movie about like bbc one no, no bbc two bbc three No, no, no not the The harder they fall it just came out with idris alba. He's like a sad cowboy. Not that not that movie

Wait, what the it's like a jimmy. This is jimmy. Yeah, this is jimmy cliff jimmy cliff Yeah, isn't it? Oh, I know this track. Isn't it called the heart of this? It's a track not a movie. It's a it's a song The harder they fall no, there's a whole soundtrack. It's on Netflix. I know I watched the first 30 minutes I think you're talking about um Shit, what's it called not like renegades or whatever the heart of they come maybe is what it's the movies called And joe frances did produce that he did. Yes. This is what put him over the edge of the beat wait a minute That was west hollywood. That was west hollywood. They come that's that was his follow-up My mom has that as her ringtone now

It's a disgusting happen She segwayed right into the porno of the theme song the harder they come Okay, so this is like a just like a reggae movie with jimmy cliff and stuff Yes, but you put on the soundtrack and you're like, well, that's a good song. Oh, that's a great song Oh, this song's off the chain the harder they come. What's the what's that? Man, a tibia would kill me. There's this reggae movie where it's like all like the greatest It's like the most legendary reggae movie ever. This is it. I think this is it No, it's called like

Rippers or something. Is it the snoop line? It's the snoop lion documentary, right? It's a snoop Isn't it snoop lion? Yeah When he's like what when he swore off of rapping, you know what has a pretty good soundtrack The Beatles documentary that just came out had a pretty good soundtrack. Oh, yeah, you liked that pretty good Oh, it's called rockers rockers. It's like one of the most legendary like, um, jamaican like reggae movies ever If you haven't seen rockers, you it's like one of the coolest background movies just because everybody's dressed insane. Have you seen it? Yeah, yeah, rockers rocks. I like how you're like, I don't know what it is. If you haven't seen it No, I forgot the title. I thought it was rippers is rockers. Yeah fair enough

But it's like super super legendary ripping in the rock and ripping in the rock Do we have any takebacks giveaways Epic slams dead rigors. I'll take back the first 17 minutes of the podcast today. Just I feel like the hot one Maybe we'll cut that absolutely not dude. That's that's what the people want. By the way, if I'm wrong about the billion dollars Um for joe france's Um, I don't care cool. Okay. Yeah, that's right. I dig that That's the proper way to be it doesn't it doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter right? I want to talk about wrong I do think he made I know he's wrong. I bet he made over a hundred million dollars. Yeah, okay, doggy

I I feel like I read somewhere back in the day that he was The first like the fastest self made billionaire like it was that was the whole thing Um, then again, I get my news on pornhub. Yeah running When I when I'm not in the comment section just Let people know who everyone is. First of all, what kind of I think about that often I think about it so much. I know where you're going. I'm always thinking about it. It's all I can think of what is Who is commenting on the videos on pornhub? It's too much

It's truly the funny next time you're at pornhub and you're watching and you're enjoying before you leave I don't know man. I don't know who does Read the comments. That's got a guilty look on his face. I don't know who would take time That's weird to just like share a thought They're super super weird. They're very helpful. The ones that are like, man, he really did that well or like beautiful Yeah, it's trippy But the ones where it's like her name is so and so you're like dude. Thank you. It's like a yelp review You're like, thank you. Cool. I know the tacos there are gonna be good. All right

Yeah, but it is it is they're right. It is still very very strange I posted one from the porno parody vencom, which was a port porno parody of venom And it was like the somebody was like No, that's perfect come perfect dude, it had some great scenes because I don't like you know how venom has a really long tongue So they had like this whole like Prosthetic tongue it was it was funny. It's worth a watch. It's worth a watch. Yeah, yeah But the comment section make sure to drop a comment on that one I might skip it all together, but cool. Uh, and I would like to give Blake his flowers for really sticking by the

objectively bad soundtrack That is the matrix soundtrack. You're crazy. And he has a love for monster magnet And yeah, wait, but Blake real quick Rob zombie fucking kicks, but I don't Watch it. Take his name out your mouth. Oh, you know what? Rob zombie Take his name out your mouth. It's not my favorite type of music. I don't think it it's zombie kicks ass white zombie I like some of it. It's good to work out. Let me hear Rob zombie devils rejects soundtrack off the track Okay, great movie. Yes. Um, great. But here's here's my question, Blake

And I'm with Adam as far as this goes Unless you can name me one song off the matrix soundtrack I don't know titles, but I just told you every single go. No, I want one song. No, he didn't. I did Ultrasonic's And I take it back. Hey, Blake, you sold me with that rendition and was this on the radio ever None of these were on the radio There was one song that might have been on the radio is the last song in the movie Rage Against the Machine where it's like

Oh, yeah, when he flies off. Yes And it's a dumbest moment in movie history. It was a dumb moment, but the song wasn't the problem Rage Against the Machine Rocks is the best song In the movie and the pro soundtrack to the very end of the movie to do every other song. I'm like, oh, it's because Neal has bad taste in music. I think Blake's frozen. That's funny. I like that take Look, I'm gonna use my time to double down I would like to use a double down to

Continue to love the matrix soundtrack and put yourself I think it's one of the top 10 greatest most influential soundtracks ever So I'm doubling down. I'm doubling. I'll take the I'll take the time to pile on that double down with another dead ringer to remind You guys that my son thought I was kiana reeves. Okay By the way, kiana reeves I kind of forgot how fucking hot kiana reeves was Yeah, it looks just like your boy. That's what I'm taking. It was Surran wrapped face like very thin. Yes. He was just like And he looks just like your boy dad where you look like him now as he's like melted Into his body you look like dead ringer like if he's dead

Doesn't matter when fucking dead ringer playboy When he's dead, you're a ringer It's that thing Idiots Hi, I'm david eagleman. I have a new podcast called inner cosmos on iHeart I'm going to explore the relationship between our brains and our experiences by tackling Unusual questions like can we create new senses for humans? So join me weekly to uncover how your brain

Steers your behavior your perception and your reality Listen to inner cosmos with david eagleman on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Last season millions tuned into the betrayal podcast to hear a shocking story of deception I'm andrea gunning and now we're sharing an all-new story of betrayal Ashley litten was helping her husband set up a business venmo account when she discovered a terrible secret I saw a hidden folder and I opened it. What the hell did I just see? Listen to season two of betrayal on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Between april 1971 and september 1972

Six young black girls were snatched off the streets in washington dc This child was laying on the side of the road The person said I murdered your daughter the killer believed that he may have been seen I will admit the others when you catch me if you can sign freeway phantom Listen to freeway phantom on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts