This Is Important - Ep 95: What Happened At The End Of This Episode?

Episode Date: July 26, 2022

Today, this is what's important: Swimming, high school gym class, the splits, school yard games, childhood fights, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hi, I'm David Eagleman. I have a new podcast called Inner Cosmos on iHeart. I'm going to explore the relationship between our brains and our experiences by tackling unusual questions like, can we create new senses for humans? So join me weekly to uncover how your brain steers your behavior, your perception, and your reality. Listen to Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last season, millions tuned into the Betrayal podcast to hear a shocking story of deception. I'm Andrea Gunning, and now we're sharing an all-new story of betrayal. Ashley Lytton was helping her husband set up a business Venmo account when she discovered

a terrible secret. I saw it in a folder, and I opened it. What the hell did I just see? Listen to season two of Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Between April 1971 and September 1972, six young black girls were snatched off the streets in Washington, D.C. This child was laying on the side of the road. The person said, I murdered your daughter. The killer believed that he may have been seen. I will admit the others when you catch me if you can. Signed Freeway Phantom. Listen to Freeway Phantom on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to This Is Important, a production of iHeart Radio, the show where we only talk about what is

most obviously very crucially important. Today on This Is Important... Oh, strangle my nuts, I just want to feel something. Watch me hang from this pole. My whole life, I've had zero desire to do the splits. Wait, did you beat up a special needs kit, Anders? Let's go. Where? We are back! Okay, so we, what, you? Okay, yeah, we would just say... I'm confused because you said you had the Crow soundtrack and you said that the Foo Fighters is on that? Is that, there goes my hero? No, not the Crow. Varsity Blues. I mentioned Varsity Blues. Yes. Oh, dude, I was like, I don't think Foo Fighters are on the Crow, bro. But so I was like,

did you know I had that soundtrack? Because I do have that soundtrack, but I have it in a very strange way that made me think weirdly about myself in high school. I got interviewed by like the school radio show, right? Nice, dude. Your first brush with fame? Yeah, because about my like swimming, whatever. Proud legacy, legacy, legacy. Let's just say fastest in history for two years. Really? Wow. Oh my god. So somebody went way faster than me two years later. But that's okay, you had two years. Hey, two years, dude. Yeah, better than I did. Thank you. That's a great run. And he was like, I'm having you on today. I'm giving you, I like to give a gift to my guests. I'm giving you the Varsity Blues soundtrack because like you're like a jockin' stuff.

That's cool. He said jockin' stuff. And I was like, yeah, this is a football move. Like I'm like, because swimming is, sure, it's a sport, but it's a varied, not only is it a different like, it's just different than like being a baseball player or a basketball player or football player because the mindset in especially a high school where like the social like hierarchy, it doesn't matter like that, right? You don't, you don't walk around the school like, you're not pulling a ton of chicks from the swim team. No, and it, and it doesn't matter, right? Well, no, I'm not going to let you go there because swimming is so important to our world. That's why you're just talking in general like humans if we fall in water. Well, maybe,

maybe it's different in California, but I will say in the Midwest, no one gives a shit about swimming. It's so far down the rung of sports that you even care about. In terms of pocket money. Yeah. Yeah. Adam, Adam, I don't know if it's I saw the chess club beat up the swim team one time. But no, but he gave me this album and I, it was just, it was such a miss for me that I was like, yeah, okay, for sure. But it did have that Foo Fighters song on it, which is a jam. Yeah, it does. It's got my hero and Foo Fighters. Hold on. How did, how did swimming males, I mean, even the females, like swimmers bodies are fucking hot as fuck. We're not going to get into it right now. No,

I know. This is what I'm tripping about. I'm tripping about that too. Like after, after Wail of last week. Wait, what was it? I can't remember last week. Yeah. You've been watching our new show. I was so drunk that episode. Then you, then you lead off with swimmers bodies. At least the male are so hot. Dude, like I'm glistening. What is hotter than a male swimmer, dude? Our USA. Male football player. No, I don't know. Bodies are insane. Maybe a female swimmer. No, but he's just saying like, from the perspective of hot, no, no gender, no nothing. Muscle cut on a male swimmer. Like they're, they're muscles, the gutters. But this is high school. So not a lot of them are that shredded yet. Exactly. It was

just me. Oh, that's what it is. Derz is, were you the only one that swim and collegiantly? Uh, that means college, right? No, there's, I don't know. Good word, Adam. I had a teammate shout out, John Phillips born who swam at Kenyon, which is a division three, like dynasty. Yeah, but you were the big dog. No, but they're a dynasty and he was fast. Okay. He was good. And then younger than me, there were young bloods that were like legit fast who like won big tens and stuff. Were they hot? Obviously. Like you met them. They're sexy. All right. Well, you don't need to hype up your whole school. I'm trying to hype you up. I'm trying to hype you up, dog. Were you the big swinging dick in that pool? Sorry, packed in your speedo dick in that pool.

Have you seen it? Have you seen it? Yeah, bundled up tightly. Yeah, tightly coiled cock in your speedo. Serant nylon wrapped. By the way, in high school, I wore a size 26 speedo. That was your gene size? Speedo. That's your genes. Speedo. Oh, is that the same as genes? So what does that mean? It'd be like if you had a size 26 genes on. Okay, that's fucking thin, bro. That's fucking thin, bro. Oh my God. You are nothing but bones. I've never been that thin, dude. You wear like a 32 waist jeans, but you put on a size 26 speedo. Like it was a whole thing. Oh, so you're really got nothing but organs and muscles, you know? Oh my God. Okay, so but you were the hot chick. People knew you around high school. He said fastest in history. But Adam, but Adam, again,

I was on the swim team. I know, I know, I know. But did like weird guys come to watch you? You know how like there's always like it? Swim fans. There was some really great baseball players and really great football players at my high school. So there would be like weird guys that would just come that are not affiliated with the school at all that are like just 50 year old men who like either went to the school years and years and years ago or just like came around because they hurt they like watching the sport. Do you love it? Were there ever like weird guys at the side of the pool just watching you stroke that water? Not really. There were a couple people would come back and like watch a couple of meets or whatever because we were pretty good. But when I went to even when

I went to college, right? Same guy followed you to watch you. And I was like, there he is. There he is. Do I fuck this guy? Do I put him on way out? What are we doing? So I had a homie on the football team and he was like mommy. He was like, so like at a swim me like what do you guys got? You got like 5000 3000 people watching you and I'm like, at a dual meet like college between another college. And this is division one. Like we were top 20 team. It would be like 20 of your parents and then like a couple girlfriends. You had 20 parents. Oh, 20 collective parents. And this is like a bull, a guys and girls meet together. Like nobody came. So wait, what was that total 2020 plus 20 so like 40 people like 40 parents and then like a couple

boyfriends and girlfriends to be like, yeah, so it sucks. It's like two classrooms. Yeah, he was like, he's like, because we play for like 85,000. So I assume there's like only 5000 for you guys. I'm like, no, dude, it's like, it sucks. No one wants to go to a swim. Yeah, I'm sorry, man. Well, no, but the swimming is really fun to watch during the Olympics. That's one of the most thrilling things on the summer Olympics. It's definitely better televised because I've been to a few swim meets in my in my day. I come from a line of swimmers. My mother and father swam. My Kyle, please talk about it. My uncle swam. My uncle coached Olympic medalist, Matt Biondi. So I was around it growing up. And if you don't know who Matt Biondi is, get your fucking Google

on, dude, the man. Yeah, he's a swimmer. He's a swimmer. We can just tell you right now. He was fast. I don't even have to pick up the phone. I'm pretty sure he was a good swimmer. You got like eight, eight golds or something. He's a good swimmer. He's one of the most decorated Olympians in swimming history, six foot eight. And he thought he played water polo. Oh, dude, he played water polo. My dad played hello, water polo, man. My dad was a water polo dude. So yeah, swimming is better televised than it is in person because in person, it's very hard to know what the you can't see. You can't see what's going on. You can't tell right. It's kind of an underwater sport. You can't see. Okay, sure. Yeah, there's

a lot happening. What do you mean? You sit up in the in the bleachers, you look down. It's all very small. You can see the bleachers at them, but you can't see it. It's all very small. It's hard to check it out. I think maybe Kyle, you've been you've been blind your whole life. Well, I'm actually all in because I know if I sat in the bleachers, Durr said there's 40 people there. You can sit wherever you want. You got a good. Wait, dude, when we went to South by Southwest, listen, when we went to South by Southwest, the first time we were in, we were in Austin at the same time. Love South by. As this huge. When South by was fucking good. Oh yeah. Go ahead. Called the Texas Invitational, right? I wake up super hungover after we rage and I go to this

swim meet that's like when it's one of the biggest meets of the year. Yeah, I remember you doing this. I remember thinking this is absolutely insane. And I and no one's there. There's a few hundred people, but I go straight to the front and I go, yo, and I like see my swim coaches are like, what are you doing here? I'm like, I'm on your show. I made it. By the way, they're super busy. They're like, oh, great. And you're here. I'm like, I can't let go of the sport. You want a lone star? I only drink half of it. Can I swim on the relay, please? Well, that's what is cool about swimming is you swam at the collegiate level. Wisconsin, big school. So you like, it was a real swim. It was a real thing that you were doing,

but it's not like you were an Olympian. You know what I mean? It's not like you were. Were you even close? No, never made trials. Yeah, it's not like you were even close. It's not like you were that great at all. I mean, he was a very great swimmer, but then now Durs can walk walk to a right up to the biggest swim meet in the fucking country and stand right by the pool, stand on the deck. People love him. Well, you know, I played baseball. I played baseball when I was a kid. Right. I can't just go down to Dodger Stadium and try to walk into the dugout. I think you could. I bet you could. I bet you could. I think it's a little different, but I think you could. Yeah, I think it wouldn't be easy. It's a different level. It's a different level. It's a

different level. I can talk shop with people. Who else in what other celebrity represents for swimming? Is there anybody else? Well, I can't, I don't want to get into it because then I get super jealous. What do you mean? I will say Kevin Hart Swam for Philadelphia Parks and Recreation, which is like a historically dope swim club. They've been around forever. The Kevin Hart. Wait, the little comedian. Adam. Sure. He was a very successful comedian. His body is so little. Hold up. What? But that's what that's great. But it's also very hot, dude, which goes back to my point. I'm guessing he's got decent underwaters. Yeah. Okay. I always just thought swimmers were long and lean. That's true. Yeah, but there's a there's a whole host of people out

there that are not that tall that have good underwater dolphin kicks and that kind of helps them out. Kevin is not just not that tall. He's very small. Yes. I tower over him and I'm pretty small. Yeah. Well, I guess that just proves he was working hard out there. Yeah. He was working fucking hard. That's what it sounds like. I'm not trying to offend him. Well, I think anybody of all shapes and sizes can have fun in the pool and can set records. Okay. I'm just very surprised that he is. He was such a great swim. Does it matter if you're tall because I don't know how good he was. I know that he swam competitively. Okay. We're wild stuff. The next one bothers me because he was fast. Okay. He's Mark Paul Gosler. No, but it's close. It's close. God, if he swam. No,

but you know what? He does the Malibu triathlon and I gotta fucking smoke him this year. I'm gonna do it just to smoke him. Oh, get your ass to the triathlon, bro. Get it. Get it. I will be there. Your boobs are huge. Now. Now I'm blanking on this dude's name, but he's the star of Justified. Walton Goggins. Not Walton Goggins. Other dude. Oh, the handsome guy. The handsome guy. Yeah. Yeah. Handsome guy. What's his name? Let's see here. Let me do a little Google search. You guys think about his name while I tell this story because I saw him at like an FX or a Netflix party. And I'm like, I gotta go up to this guy and talk swimming. Timothy Olifant. Timothy Olifant. Oh, yeah. Legend. Wow. Legend. Like basically like everything I want to be. Wow. Yeah. He has

got to have swimmers, Bob, too. You can see it. Yeah. So hot. Very funny. I don't know if you guys saw him in Girl Next Door. Very funny. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we love Girl Next Door. Yeah, I could gobble and I go up to him and I'm like, what's up? Hey, wait. Oh, my name's Anders. I'm an actor too. He's like, very cool. All right. Like entertaining it. And I go, oh, I bet he's so dope. I know you swim at, I think he's swimming at USC. I can swim. Yeah. And I go, and he goes, yeah. Like, why do you know this? Like, oh, I swim and like, dude, you're a fucking actor. I'm an actor. We both swim. Like, I just had to say what's up. And he puts his hand on my shoulder and he goes, and I don't know if it was this, but I'll give it to him. And he was like, and you did it.

And was like, bam. And like turned his, turned away. So no love, dude. How drunk were you? And I'm not, I'm not shitting on him. No, you're not mad at it. That's a perfectly reasonable response. But I was for sure drunk enough to go up to a guy and go like, swim actor. Yeah, you would almost think that that is a deep enough of a cut that there'd be like a brotherhood there. I was hoping, but then, and then, and then it was just like, this is not going anywhere. And I was, and if he was slower than me, I'd be like, well, fuck that guy. But he was faster. Yeah, what's his time? What's his time? I think he was like a 200 IM guy, which is different than me. I didn't do that. But he was quick. Individual medley, right? That's what it was. Yeah. Yeah, you do every stroke.

Yeah. Is there order? What's the order? No, I think he was a sick backstroker. And he's got those backstroke shoulders, guys. What are those look like? Narrow, very narrow. Anders, what is the order of the IM? What is the order of it? Is it butterfly backstroke, breaststroke, freestyle? Every time. And by the way, the luggage you use on the swim deck. Well, yeah, I wasn't sure if you could switch it up. I wasn't sure if you could do like your freestyle first. You're not allowed to switch it up, which is controversial because they think that breaststrokers have an advantage and the luggage you use on deck. No, I remember. I remember. Let's talk about this new piece of luggage I just got. Oh, dude, you guys, hey, you do need to check

out this fucking Toomey ad. It's un fucking real. It's got like people parkour. Dude, Toomey has released this new luggage. It's like black and neon green. And this shit is just so cool. But the commercial has people parkouring. They are parkouring with rollerbags. It's epic. Which how come none of us can parkour? That fucking sucks, dude. For me, it's my athleticism. I can't my knees would explode. Wait a second. Didn't we freestyle walk? Did you guys not do gymnastics in middle school and high school? We're freestyle walking. Nice. Like when you had gym, it was like you do soccer, then you do this, and then you do gymnastics and whatever. No, I don't think they made us do gymnastics. You never did the vault. No, we had to do this. Yes, absolutely. I love that

shit, dude. We had to do gymnastics. Yeah, I run and fuck around with it. Yeah, we had to do gymnastics. You sure? Yes, Blake. We would drag it out of the closet and we would set it up and then we would do it. Drag what out of the closet? I used to be able to do backflips. If Kyle had to do gymnastics, that means you had to do gymnastics, Blake. I don't have to drag out of the closet. Blake's been Blake was busy doing the rope climb. Like all I remember is that the rumor was is that if you brought out the little spongy floor that Matt, it had ringworm and I didn't want to fucking touch that. That's wrestling, dude. That's wrestling, player. You're in a completely different place. Um, when you do gymnastics, you have the same mat out there. No, you don't. They don't have a

different mat. Yes, when you do floor routine. What? They have the, it's like a bouncy carpet. What are you talking about? Bouncy carpet. Yeah, it's like the whole floor is a carpet. So your school, how much money did your guys in school have that they had a different floor to bring out? Bro, we had like 12, we had 12 gyms. My school is humongous. Jesus. Dude, we had a whole gymnastics gym. Oh my God. Dude, when I was back home, when I was back home, I just did a random. You can find me in the gymnastics gym, bro. Cool guy over here. You can find me on the parallel bar. Yeah. I'm on the ring, bitch. Oh, where am I? You can find me doing sit and reach, bro. Yeah, the sit and reach, bitch. Do you guys remember the presidential fitness test? I got in

second place every year because I like was doing physical. I already know who you lost to. I was doing physical therapy every day. And I couldn't, I couldn't be beat, dude. I was so flexible. And then this kid who couldn't feel his legs, he was in a wheelchair, could just bend himself in half. Why are you dogging on your people? He would bend himself in half and destroy me every year, man. Adam, just give it to him, man. Let him have it. No, he has it. He has it. Hang on a second. You were in a wheelchair. How do you think you got second player? No, no, no. This was after the wheelchair. But it was in you. It was cemented. Yeah. Well, I was very flexible at this point. It was years of years of physical therapy. Wow. Wow. Cemented. Did you have to use cemented?

Oh, I didn't cry about it. It was cemented. That is. Yeah. Did you have to say cemented? Cemented. Do you have to? Yeah. What the fuck, man? That was wrong. You have to say it. Oh, I didn't even catch that one. Yes, points. You got to let him have that, right? Adam, are you talking specifically about that? Yeah, I'm not lording it over him, but I'm saying I was very good. I was very good at it. The fact that you brought it up is the fact like you're lording it. It didn't bother me in the moment. Yeah. You know, I was trying to win the damn thing. He comes out of nowhere. I didn't even know he was going to do it because he's not doing a lot of the other exercises. Right. You thought you had it in the bag. Well, because

when I was in a wheelchair, I was too injured. I couldn't even go. Ladies, come watch me do the sit and reach. I think you're going to like what you see. They wouldn't even allow me in the gym. And then I regained my strength. I'm back in the gym and I'm like, look at you go. They wouldn't let you in the gym? No, they said it was a insurance issue that I couldn't go in the gym because I'm so sorry. They just didn't like you. Yeah. Well, it was my middle school. Both of my legs were directly out in front of me. So if anything hit them, it was really painful. So obviously middle school was a disaster zone for me. Sure. Sure. Sure. That one teacher who said, fuck you on the last day of school was like, don't let him in the gym. That was hate school.

I would have loved to see Adam with like his legs straight out just doing rope climbs like fucking a marine. That would be sick. I would love that too. Just body into L. Hi, I'm David Eagleman. I have a new podcast called Inner Cosmos on iHeart. I'm a neuroscientist and an author at Stanford University. And I've spent my career exploring the three pound universe in our heads. On my new podcast, I'm going to explore the relationship between our brains and our experiences by tackling unusual questions so we can better understand our lives and our realities. Like, does time really run in slow motion when you're in a car accident? Or, can we create new senses for humans? Or what does dreaming have to do with the rotation of the

planet? So join me weekly to uncover how your brain steers your behavior, your perception, and your reality. Listen to Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last season, millions tuned into the Betrayal podcast to hear a shocking story of deception. I'm Andrea Gunning, and now we're sharing an all new story of Betrayal. Ashley Lytton was helping her husband set up a business Venmo account when she discovered a terrible secret. I scrolled down and that's when I saw a hidden folder and I opened it. What the hell did I just see?

I was scared that he was coming home. What Ashley discovered that day was a secret so dark she feared for her life. She was like, oh my god, I got to get out of the house. He's going to find out that I've seen this, he's going to come kill me. Listen to season two of Betrayal on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Between April 1971 and September 1972, six young black girls were snatched off the streets in Washington DC. It took four murders before the police finally realized that one person was responsible. I will admit the others when you catch me if you can. Signed freeway fan. This child was laying on the side of the road. It appeared that she was probably

either dragged out of the car or thrown out of the car. The person said I murdered your daughter. The killer believed that he may have been seen by the mother. That guy is, he's out of sync with even the worst people. I thought that they would catch him. I thought it was just a matter of time. Is it possible that the killer is still alive? Listen to freeway phantom on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Adam, are you still pretty flexible? Can you do the splits? I'm pretty flexible. I can still kind of do the splits. For bumper, the pitch perfect spin-off show that I did in Germany, there was the first day of rehearsal or I was shooting and I kicked my leg up, tore my top dick muscle. Yeah, classic. Wait,

what? You're what? That's just your drawing. It's like, it's so low in my abdomen that it's basically my top dick. Yeah. And I'm like, I felt weird because it's my first day and everyone's like, top dick like the base where the, like, here, I'll show you. Yeah, show us. Like the base, like where your dick comes out of. Like the fooboo. Like, here it is. We got an exclusive, like, no, you're going to have to pull it down. There's just some, like, reaction. You're going to want to YouTube it. Okay, so kind of upper thigh. That part of my body always gets so tight. Yeah, but still on the abdominals, but it just went, it went ping and then I, it hurts so fucking bad. And then it's like, I'm just meeting these German people. This is the

first day of shooting. And they're like, what's this hurt to you? And I'm like, basically rubbing my cock, my, my schwanger. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. The top of my schwanger. Damn, bro. Man, I've never been flexible. Yeah. So I am still flexible, but not in the same way that I was. I couldn't do all the same moves that I could in the first time. I've never been flexible. I could never do the splits. I always want to. My brother could do the splits. Why did your brother do the splits? We'll talk about why his brother can do the splits. I have zero desire to do the splits. My brother did a lot of gymnastics. My brother did a lot of gymnastics. Your brother was a hockey goalie. Yes. My whole life, I've had zero desire to do the

splits. Why would you ever want to do the splits? All I know is when you're at a wedding and you're on the dance floor and you're thinking maybe there's scouts in the audience, you practice your splits. You do, for sure. I don't want to make you know. And even when you're practicing in your own house, you think maybe somebody's watching this. It could be a scout. But just for like experiences, why not? Why would you want to just not have that experience your whole life? Sometimes life is about the things you can't do. Okay. All right. Interesting. Can we get one more example? Yeah, okay. Like what? Like what? What else? Like swimming and splits. Yeah, like the backstroke. I can't do the backstroke. I bet you could. I bet you could if you drove them. I bet the splits

feel hella good. Like front splits, not side splits, like front splits. What do you think it feels like? Describe it. I bet you've, I think it's euphoria. The one I could do is where I tuck my one leg back. It's like the jazz splits. So it's not a full back. I've seen you do that. That's like your jumping split. Yeah. Where I jump up and jump into it. Basically land on your knees. But both knees are forward, right? Or is it one knee back? No, it's tucked back. Yeah, it's like a rock star split. You're basically kind of landing on your leg. Yeah, it's rock star splits. It's Francis James Brown. It's like, yeah. But both knees are forward. Both knees are forward. It's a quick fall and a drop and you can actually pop back up when you're the best at this.

That, I like that. Like when, when you watch like old James Brown dancing and he's like, I tore my meniscus at our house. I believe on my 21st birthday. Oh, I think so. That move when I came back up and someone has this video because I saw it the next day where you see my knee go. And then you see me grimace and dance through the pain. Like I just kept dancing. I love it. This guy's got no quip and I love it. And then I woke up the next day with my fucking knees all swollen and I like kind of forgot that I had hurt myself. And I was like, Oh, fuck. Right. That's what it happens. Yeah, you got to wrap it up. That's wild. What else did you have to do in that? What was it? Presidential test? What did you call it? The shuttle run,

right? Shuttle run. It's where you had to pick up those blocks on either side of each other. Yeah. That was legit hard. It's like some American gladiators. And then we had to do rope climb. We also had to do pull ups. Pull ups. And was it also the little wooden pegs into the board where you're like, oh, no, that's why you're shit. That's how I advanced. That was some ninja warrior shit. 50 yard dash and then the mile wasn't one of the things like if you if you couldn't do pull ups, you could just hang for as long as you could. Yes. But I guess I heard about that. I think that was kids that couldn't do pull ups. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, what else was on it? Yeah, because it's all sitting reach. You just had to do 15 pull ups. Oh, you didn't,

you didn't have to do your max. Well, I think it was a max 15 was like the max. If you did 15, you got like a yeah, imagine a kid just busting 15. I think you had to do like 100 yard dashes and stuff too. I think all the running you had 50 yard dash, mile and shuttle run. Yeah. I love that Derz remembers it. I just remember like sitting reach and pull ups. He's training his children to fucking destroy these events. Can I just tell you didn't remember anything else. So this was it. I remember that we that people read James and Giant Peach. Oh, great book. Maybe I don't know. So 15 15 pull ups in a row is pretty good even for an adult like 15 is tough. Yeah. But as an adult, it's harder for you. When you're a kid, you weigh no pounds. That's right. Sure. But

you're still like, I feel like I did not get 15. I bet I got way less than that. I don't know if I did. I remember the gymnastics girls would like keep the pull ups and you're like, is this oh yeah, I remember trying to I tried to do that. Is that when you like go up the bar? No, that's a muscle up. I'll post that now. I tried to muscle up one time and fucking ruined my elbow. It was terrible. You could probably do it. I bet you do a bunch of pull ups, right? I can do pull ups, but muscle ups fuck my shit up. Can I tell you something? I guarantee you you could do it. See, I love that about you. Thank you, brother. I trained him. I also know my take back for today. I would actually like that that like hang just hang instead of doing like a pull up. Yeah,

I would like to see how long I could actually just hang hang for 100 seconds is tough. Is it? Yeah. Are you kidding me? Yeah. Yeah, that'd be very tough, I think. Well, just just hanging like a dead drop or just like up like no, no, no, no, here like this 100 seconds, hang fully extended for 100 seconds there. Yeah, no, Kyle, remember at a member at Christian camp when they had the competition? Yes, sir. This dude was busy making out the hallways and smoking bro. Yeah, dude. You are probably fucking nice. Kyle the fucking place like watch me hang from this pole. No, we didn't hang what we did. What do you do? Everybody you grabbed a chair and you had to hold the chair out in front of you like like straight arm lock your elbows. Yeah, you had

to see how long you could hold the chair. Yo, you guys were fucking bored. No, dude, because Jesus will let you hold it longer. Oh my god. No, it wasn't even like it. It wasn't faith based. It was just something to do. It was out of boredom. Durst, Durst nailed it that we were bored as fuck at Christian cram. They're like, yo, I forgot the Super Nintendo. Watch this. All right, guys, if you can hold this chair for 20 seconds, you're going to heaven. Oh my god. I got you, bro. Do kids nowadays ever do shit like that? Or is it all on iPads and iPhones? Dude, I don't know. I'm not around kids. I'm asking you guys because I was thinking that today like all the dumb shit I would do like I would collect all of like my baseball and basketball

cards and then for fun, I would like put I would categorize them differently. Yeah. I used to flip through cards so much. Depend on the hours. Hey, I'm doing, I'm doing all tops and all Don Russ together and then it'd be like, I'm going to go put all the players together and then it's like I'm doing alphabetical order or whatever the fuck. Yeah. What the fuck? I love that. And that was like my fun thing for the day. My dad thought I was a psychopath. Yeah. It's just part of being human. But I bet now if you just gave me an iPad and I was the same age, I'd just be playing Fruit Ninja or whatever. Yeah. It's a little bit of both. I mean, my kids do all sorts of organizational shit, right? Like they get, they're like, I'm going to organize my Legos today and you're like,

amazing. I'm going to go drink nine drinks. Yeah. That's where I stopped. That's where I stopped. Comedy call back from last week. I'm taking the edge. I'm going to go take the edge off real quick. Sometimes they go to other kids' houses and everybody just like jumps on their iPads and they're bummed, you know, when I'm like, what's a trip? I'm like, and then I got to like intervene and be like, we're all going to play 500 or football or whatever the fuck it is. And they're like, dude, what's 500? Kind of. You got to motivate them. 500 for like somebody. What do you mean? What's 500? You throw the ball, like everyone's there to catch it and you call it the number. You call it 100. Oh, right. And then 50. And then every once while you call it, you go

negative 100. And then wait, they have to like, oh, no, they go, they do this move. What are they like? Is that basically like three flies up or with math? Sure. Moving on. Yeah. Yeah. I think Kyle, because I never played 500. What the fuck is that? You never played 500 that never came to the West Coast. West Coast. Hold on. He just said West Coast. I know. And my posture got better when I said it too. I went, what's kids? We played three flies up. And what is that? Three flies up as you catch three balls and then you get to be the guy who throws it. That's piggy bounce out, right? Is that somebody batting that? You're joking. Nobody played piggy bounce out. I don't know piggy bounce out. I was there for the five minutes. Where's piggy bounce out?

Slide into Blake's DMs and tell them you know about piggy bounce out. Yeah, fuck you. Hey, Ders, you got to stop doing that, man. I don't give a fuck. Too many people are sliding in my DMs with dumb ass shit. Dude, slide into Blake's DMs. Hit him up about piggy bounce out. What is piggy bounce out? Piggy bounce out is essentially sounds like a strip club. Somebody's up. No, it's essentially a game of softball. Everybody's in the outfield. Somebody pitches someone's up a bat and I think you can catch it or you can get it on one bounce, right? And so if you're hitting the ball, you're hitting the ball until somebody catches it or gets it on one bounce and then the person who got it, they get to bat and then the person at bat.

They want to catch it. They want to bat, right? Yeah, because everybody wants to bat. Exactly. So it's basically like you're scrambling to catch the hit, but if you're just like hitting grounders the whole time. So you're like pushing people out of the way to fucking catch the ball and shit. Is that what you would do, Blake? That's interesting. I probably wouldn't. Hi, I'm David Eagleman. I have a new podcast called Inner Cosmos on iHeart. I'm a neuroscientist and an author at Stanford University and I've spent my career exploring the three pound universe in our heads. On my new podcast, I'm going to explore the relationship between our brains and our experiences by tackling unusual questions so we can better

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the cast, and creator Shonda Rhimes leading the way. Listen to Queen Charlotte the official podcast, Thursdays on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. What was your guys' favorite, like, playground game? Piggy mounts out. Steal the bacon. Steal the bacon. We would play King of the Mountain a lot on, like, the snow. Let's go grade. Let's go age. Can we go specific age?

Like elementary school. Like elementary school. Like fifth grade. Okay, fifth grade. We would play, like, a fucking Warriors game of King of the Mountain. That wasn't school section, though, right? No, it wasn't. Probably the yard duties would be, like, quit playing that shit. Yeah.

What? For sure. It was a way to get very injured. Did you guys play tetherball? I loved playing tetherball. I never played. We didn't have that at my school. What the fuck were the rules of tetherball? No one knew. You just had to knock it to wrap it all the way around, right? Yeah, but you had to agree on, like, if you could grab the rope, those were called ropeies.

Of course you can't grab it. What? You could play different with other people. There were different sets of rules. Wait, but you could never, ever grab the rope. No, you could. If you allowed ropeies, yes, you could. You could if you allowed ropeies, and then you could really zing that shit.

Let me tell you what that is. That's an older brother doing that to a younger kid, and then him bringing that to school, and other people being like, yeah, all right, I guess he'll beat us up. Okay, ropeies now. Because Daryl said so. No, because you could really throw that shit hell afar. Well, not far, but hard.

You also could do something called bottle caps. Do you guys remember, do you remember bottle cap? That's where you held it at the top of it. Yeah, buddy. Yeah. What does that mean? Do you know it? Hell, one at the top of what?

You could catch the ball, grab it, and fucking throw it every time instead of just. But that's like doing a thumb war and saying snake attack. It's like, what are you doing? That's not a thumb war. Tag team. No. We're like, atomic bomb.

We play the game so damn much. What's happening, Anders, is you play the game so damn much that you're just trying to. What's in my name in public? You're just trying to fucking spice it up a little bit. Okay, that's not spicy, though. That's essentially cheating. We got some big tetherball guys that knew all the rules.

Well, I don't think it's cheating if you're both on the same playing field. If you have a discussion beforehand and you say, are ropeies allowed? Okay, ropeies are allowed. Bottle caps? Yeah, man, bottle caps. Then that's a fair game.

Yeah, then it's also not the game. It's a. Okay, he's a purist. He's a tetherball purist. You want to go play pickleball and then make up a bunch of new rules? It's no longer pickleball. Okay.

Well, house rules, like if you can play a game where it's like, okay, if you hit it, say pickleball. Talk about pickleball again. Guys, I'm trying to speak his language. Slippery slope. It's like, yo. Slippery slope. I don't know.

50 yard dash. But like, if you do it with your tongue out, you get an extra second. Like, what the fuck are we talking about? We're talking about being fourth in fourth grade. I'm talking about 10 year olds. I don't know about you. Sports have rules.

What if kids call smear the queer now? What do they call that now? Obviously, that's not the. What, tetherball? Tetherball? No, smear the queer. What? They don't call it anything.

I don't know what game you're talking about. We played a game. You guys don't know this game for real. I know the game. Of course we know. I'm asking what they call it. You just tackled the person with the ball. We never called it that.

What is that called? Yeah, get them. It's called get them. I bet it might be get them. It's called wayo. It's crazy that that was just the name of the game. And we all called it that. And you never thought of it being a bad name.

It was just like the name of the game. No, no, no, no, no. Wait, hang on. I don't know if queer meant gay. It's just meant like get the weirdo. Queer doesn't mean gay. It just means different, right? Yeah, I guess I guess.

Okay, this is definitely is homophobic. Just for sure. I don't know. I don't know if that was the the genesis. That shit's important. Maybe that game was invented in the 50s when queer meant different, you know. Yeah, maybe like gay didn't mean gay.

Gay meant happy. Wayo. I don't like this plot anymore. To be fair, when we were playing it growing up, like I wasn't allowed to call it that. Well, I mean, you know what are they called? Bundle sticks. This is another episode.

I mean, we never played at my house and the house that we played at, they had bad parents, I think. Yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah, once the other parents, once the good parents caught wind of it, they'd be like, oh, let's not play that.

Yeah, we don't or at least don't call it that. Call it get them. I think that's what they have. Now they have these ones are called. The new names are kill the guy with the ball, which is bad. What? That's a great game.

Why does he got to be a guy? That's weird. A little wordy. Every man for himself football. Every man. Okay, I'm offended. Yeah, me too. Here's the best one.

Ruffy up. Oh, I think I like Ruffy up as well. Ruffy up is off the charts. I remember playing one day and I was wearing a t-shirt that was my favorite shirt. It was a shark attack shirt. And then there's holes ripped out on the side like a shark.

Is this the Alcatraz shirt or just a shark attack? It just said shark attack. And then there was like blood and like some cuts in the side of the shirt. Classic. I think I saw you one time as a kid. Wearing that? Yeah, like on vacation.

I think I saw you like on a road trip. I need that. I went to Chicago one time. So that's it's possible. That was you. Went to Michael Jordan restaurant. Went to Wrigley Field for sure. Got a got a bright pink cubs hat.

And my dad kept going, you sure you want that one? You got to play rough them up. It was neon pink. And I'm like, I'm like, hell yeah, this one. And he's like, are you sure? Okay. You don't want this blue one?

No. Yeah, it was the 90s. It's like 93, 94. Yeah, hyper color. It was like hyper color. And I'm like, no, this one. He's like, they got blue ones. And I'm like, I know.

I don't want that one. Your dad's a good guy though. He's a good guy. Yeah, he was just staring me. He's looking out for a man. He's the product of his environment. And yeah, he taught me how to placement. Yeah, yeah.

Roughie up. Called roughie up. And I remember playing once and being so, they ripped my shirt off, but I was so, it was like my most athletic ability was that day. I came home, not wearing any shirt. Was shirtless. The shirt that's already ripped with the fucking shark right on it.

It for sure wasn't that great. I think I just made it to the end zone twice in the game. And normally I think I got an S. Is there an end zone? Yeah, there's like a safe zone. Yeah, there's like a safety zone. Oh, I thought it was just like go. Like you tried to like just be free as long as possible.

You just grab the ball and run home. Yeah, until like, or just, you dart around until you like get tackled or whatever. No, we play with like little safe zones, like touch zones. Oh, touch zones. You know what we used to use for our safe zones in those games was like Juniper bushes. So you would just jump as hard as you could

into the fucking Juniper bushes. What is a Juniper bush look like? Yeah, what's a Juniper bush? Well, you should know Blake. That's you obviously use the same one. Oh man, there's a lot of sticks and leaves and stuff. End over. Show me.

I don't know. I think I kind of remember. They have like little like gray berries with spikes. Yes. And they smell very pungent. They come like Christmas trees. Mom would get pretty pissed if you jumped in the Juniper bush too much.

Yeah, I wish we could go back to like those memories when we were kids, where you think you're being. Be massive. Teach ourselves to do the splits. Oh man, if I could do that. No, to look at moments when you're in your memory, you're like, God damn,

that was like such a bright, shiny moment for me that day. Where I was like the toughest guy on the field and my shirt got ripped off and I walked home. My mom's like, where's your shirt? And I'm like, I don't need it. And to look back at that moment and just see me out there. Well, your sunburned and have mosquito bites. Just kind of getting my ass kicked,

barely getting away from these kids. They rip my shirt off. I think it's like an amazing moment in my life. Dude, yeah. If I have a perfect one of those, I remember this fucking kid tried to jump me in a bathroom and I hang on. And I round.

Sorry about that. Hold up with it. I roundhouse kicked him. Yes, dude. Like hit him with a roundhouse kick. And then he like went flying into the like the. See, he went flying. A roundhouse kick.

It worked. How did it work? Like landed. He went into like the into like the stall door and like went into like there. And then I like walked out. And then afterwards he was like a. You put on a leather jacket and sunglasses

and you're like, I guess my work is done. He came up after like basketball practice. I can't remember what it was. It was like fifth grade or something. He comes up and I'm like, dude, am I about to fight this guy again? And he's like, yo. Where'd you learn how to do that kick?

And I was like fucking showdown in little Tokyo. I don't know. Like, yeah, it feels like you were just playing like too much double dragon. Right. Exactly. But like I landed a roundhouse. And I was five or two.

And like it, I not that it ended the fight, but I just left the bathroom after that. And then someone was like, would you learn that? That's incredible. Yeah, I wish I could go back to him like just wherever you kicked him into, he just like sat there like gathered himself. And he's like, that was a good ass kick.

Can you imagine how like dumb that came across? I know. Yes. I wish there was a camera there in that bathroom with little, little turns going, hi, y'all. I can't get this kid having this kid also be a little bitch who just falls over. He was a big kid, but he was he was kind of clumsy

or whatever. Yes. You can say it. Little clumsy. I don't know. He was goofy. That's what I'm saying. I'm okay.

Okay. Wait, did you beat up a special needs kid? Anders? Look, he wheeled right at me. Wait a second. No, I'm just saying. This is a new way. Oh, I don't know if it wasn't it was not an unfair fight,

but I was like, okay, I'm okay. Like, let's put it this way. I was okay. I was okay. I was okay. Roundhouse kick at this dude. So he was a special needs kid. Is this what we're a step,

but he was like taller than me, heavier than me. No. Big kid. Okay. Big kid. All right. Okay. Special.

Okay. Great kid. You are dodging the question. Different school learning. Yes. No. Regular kid went to my school. Okay.

All right. Okay. All right. Regular. Oh, yeah. Roundhouse. Did you guys ever play butts up? Oh, yeah.

Butts up was a good one, dude. Is that like way out? No. Butts up is great. That's just dodgeball with butts up is handball. It's handball where if you miss you have to go, you have to put your hands on the wall

and then people get to throw the tennis balls at your butt. If you miss your ass. If you miss what? The wall. If you like, if you fumble it or something, like there's, it has to be perfect. Adam, do you know what's happening right now? I don't know.

It's like you don't remember butts up at all. Let me get up. Let me get the butts up rules. Well, I think you had to bounce it once off of the ball wall. And then how many people? What are we talking? Where are you? Oh, that's what it was.

Hey, we're trying to get you to stop. Okay, say there was. It doesn't. It could have infinity people. You just needed to know who you were after and they bounce it. 100,000 people. Yeah, they say it's two people. Thank you.

Bounce it once. It has to hit off the wall and then it bounces up. And then if the play, the next player has to catch it. And if they drop it, they have to run and touch the wall before you throw the tennis ball and hit the wall. And if they throw the tennis ball and it hits the wall before you touch it, then you have to stand against the wall with your ass out and they get to throw tennis balls at your butt.

Wait, so you pull your ass out? No. Hey, did you have the fingers crossed? That's maybe after, after school. Did you have to pull your pants down? I don't remember pulling my pants down. You don't have to, but you can. Blake did, but Blake did every time.

And it was his favorite game. No, we're playing butts up, seven up after school. Be there or be square. You're by yourself. Yeah, butts up. Nobody. Oh, I guess, I guess everybody's scared to play. And Blake was really bad at the game.

They kept throwing this ball at us. You didn't have to go nude, dude. It was just like, you were scared because they're going to throw a ball as hard as they can at your ass. I got my hands on the wall. Yo, the game is not butts up. The game is nuts up. Did we ever play that where you have to stand facing the thrower?

They throw that at your dick? Yeah, you have to watch. No, no, no. That's when you, that's when you tuck your nuts behind it and it's a fruit basket and that's what they aim for. Oh my God. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I'm living a nightmare.

So Blake can finally feel something. Any takebacks? Apologies. Are we there? Have you been timing? Yeah, we're there. Oh, strangle my nuts. I just want to feel something.

Just like we love to feel something. I got to take back. I'm sorry I say that sports need rules. I understand that evolution takes place and rules can change. But sometimes if rules change, maybe the name changes too. Yes, yes. The asterisk. Okay, wow.

Way to walk back an apology. There's a what? Asterisk. Am I saying that wrong? I feel like you've been on me. Now you are. This, this, you said it right there. What, what, what was I saying?

Asterisk? You were saying like as if it was singular. Asterisk. Oh, an asterisk. It can never be singular. I don't know if that's the word. I think it is singular. Yeah, but it can be.

With a rix. Right, right. Hit it with the rix. Rix or? You've always said. And that's another episode. Oh my God. Yes, yes, yes.

It's important. I don't know what just happened. Kyle fell off his chair. They don't know what happened. Wow. I slipped, I slipped. No, they got to watch. They got to watch on YouTube.

I'm all good. I'm all good. If I find out that was fake, I'm going to be pissed. No, I was very low in my chair. Lower than I've ever been. You saw my frame earlier. I was testing the bottom of my frame. I wanted to see how low I could get down here.

Okay. You did it. Sure. Yeah, you might just fall right out of your chair if you sit like that. And then if I lean forward, this is what happened. If I lean forward like this, my ass starts sliding, bro. And I don't have the upper body strength.

That might be good for butts out. Nuts up. Nuts up. Okay. Yeah. Freaking see ya. Hi, I'm David Eagleman. I have a new podcast called Inner Cosmos on iHeart.

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