This Is Woman's Work with Nicole Kalil - The Universe Is Not Uber Eats: The Truth About Manifesting with Colette Baron-Reid | 377

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Starting point is 00:00:23 So no matter what day of the week, Go's got you covered. Find out more at goadransit.com slash tickets. I am Nicole Khalil and you're listening to the This Is Woman's Work podcast. We're together. We're redefining what it means, what it looks and feels like to be doing woman's work in the world today with you as the decider. And there are lots of ways that we decide, a lot of things that shape how we move through the world. Some of them are external. the voices, expectations, and experiences that try to tell us who we should be. But there is also always the internal, our intuition, thoughts, our feelings, our hopes,

Starting point is 00:01:12 our head trash, and there's quiet, unique abilities that make us us. And the tricky part is, most of us have been trained to listen more to the noise around us than to the wisdom within us. We've been conditioned to seek validation instead of alignment. And when the outside world gets loud with opinions, pressure, and the endless shoulds, it's hard to hear the whispers of our inner knowing, isn't it? Which is why I wanted to cover today's topic on the show, because it lives right at the intersection of intuition, creativity, and trust. A topic that I'll admit I have a complicated relationship with, and that's manifesting.

Starting point is 00:01:52 Not because I don't believe in it, I do. I believe that there are things. that we can't explain, energies that we can't measure, and gifts that connect us in ways that logic never could. I believe intuition is real. I believe some people just know things, and I'm fascinated by all of it. I mean, historically, women who have had these gifts, oracles, healers, and the deeply intuitive were called witches and burned for it. Maybe that's part of why I've always been drawn to the mystical. I even live in the town where more witch were put on trial than anywhere else in American history, which feels less like coincidence and more like cosmic assignment. But here's where I struggle. I believe powerful words like manifesting

Starting point is 00:02:41 have been hijacked, watered down, turned into hashtag spirituality and influencer slogans. The real magic, the power, the mystery, the potential has been stripped away and packaged as 30-second reels. And I get that that's my judgment. And like most judgments, I know it says more about me than about anyone else. But I am fascinated and I'm also resistant. I'm curious and skeptical. I crave the mystical, but still want to understand it with my brain. So in this episode, we're opening our minds and more importantly, our hearts to explore the art of manifesting. Our guest today is Colette Barron Reed, internationally respected author, intuitive, and Oracle expert. Her best-selling books and Oracle cards are published in 27 languages. In her new book, The Art of Manifesting, co-authored

Starting point is 00:03:35 with Anna Dedding, offers a meditative drawing practice to rewire your brain and to co-create with the universe, one circle and a few flowy lines at a time. So, Collette, thank you for being here. And I have to ask as you are the expert, how do you feel about how manifesting is being portrayed? Everything you said. I'm like, I'm like nodding. I'm going, this is the best introduction I have ever heard. I am exactly the same as you. I'm a complete skeptic and excited about the subject. And everything that I've done up until now, too, I came from academia. So I've always wondered what the heck? And is there a science that can show me what this is? Can somebody explain it to me beyond the anecdotal evidence? But what you said about the way, performative spirituality when it

Starting point is 00:04:33 becomes a hashtag, I'm not a big fan of social media, even though my publisher makes me go on there. And I have to figure away how to say smart things in short times. But I've always been fascinated with this topic and very frustrated by it. too. And I've experienced it both ways, both in the way which I talk about in the book, which is to align yourself with a state of being and becoming the person that has the experience that you say you want, as well as chasing something, which never works, where the attachment to an outcome decides whether I'm successful or not, and very much relative to materialism. So I think what happened in 2006. First of all, manifesting is not new. I mean, when I first got introduced to it as a topic,

Starting point is 00:05:23 was 40 years ago when I got clean and sobered. I just thought I would throw that in, too. And I went to Unity Church, and that's when I got completely dunked in the manifesting waters of the new thought movement. But they really did have it right because they talked about the spiritual alignment and that when you are in this co-creative flow in partnership with the divine, right? So I was really lucky in that I was first introduced to it not so much as a process of go get the thing you want and more about be curious and be grateful for the gifts that Spirit gives you and transform along the way. Because every time you set out to co-create deliberately in partnership with a conscious universe, you are setting yourself up for a transformation journey

Starting point is 00:06:13 too, because you don't manifest what you want. You manifest what you are. Right. So, so, and that's what, that's what gets so confusing because people took it to go get something. I'm going to, and that's not anyone's fault. We've been trained to be very linear, to go after things, to, to be entitled, right? Especially in the West, there's a huge entitlement. Like, I should have that. Right. You know, I'm, I, I deserve that. I should go get, I should have that. If I look at it, that's what the secret did, right? That movie, like, you just look at the bicycle and it's yours. That's not how it works. The universe is not Uber Eats. You're in a partnership. You have to show up. You have to do the work. You have to become that person. Like, if you have a goal in mind that you really want to create for

Starting point is 00:06:59 yourself, but you haven't done any of the work to get there, how are you going to do that? You think you're just going to wiggle your nose? What happens, for example, to people when they win the lottery and they're not ready? They have no concept of holding space and being, and being, respectful of the money that they got. They spend it all. They squander it, right? It's like, who do we become in order for us to have the experience that whatever thing that we say we want implies is going to give us? I love this because this is, I think, my beef with it is it's using manifesting to get what we want. And when it doesn't work that way, because you don't manifest what you want, you manifest what you are, as you said, and I wrote that down because I'm going to keep

Starting point is 00:07:42 that. We think we're doing it wrong or we think it doesn't work. And so I guess I want to circle back. You said curious and grateful. Those were words that jumped out at me. But it sounds like it's less of a doing and more of a being. Correct. How do we be in a way that we manifest our desires? So let me start there because I have a second follow-up question. But how do we begin to be in a way that we co-create? Perfect. Okay. Great question. Very great question. Okay. So let's first go quickly through the why do people want this, right? Why do people even go to manifesting? For the first, usually people get excited about manifesting because they think they're going to have control over the world, right? The external world will be in their control. So first we have to let go of that, right? Because any kind of attachment to an outcome with the hidden agenda that I'm going to control my future is going to fail, right? Because we don't become what we need to become, right? So, and then the minute we start to blame ourselves, right, then we then start to rehearse a feeling state. So this is the sciencey part. So when we hold space for a feeling state that relates to say, I want to create this or I want to experience

Starting point is 00:09:04 this in my life, so well, how do I go from A to B to get that, right, to have that experience? So in advance of having it, you have to rehearse the having, right? But you have to really drill down for what's the why? You know, am I chasing this because it's going to redeem me in some way, because it's going to make me safe, because it's going to, like, what are your whys for the point of it? Or is it just because, wow, this is so curious and it's fun, and let's see, right? The more we can be loose, where the world loosely around our desires, the more likely they're going to show up, but not necessary in the form that we think is right. That's the fun part.

Starting point is 00:09:42 The curious part is, well, how will that show up for me? If I don't have any attachment to the form and I can trust, remember we talked about trust, you brought that up first, deep sense of trust and be grateful. I've immersed myself in the state of gratitude and awe that there even is a conscious universe that I am a part of. Let me see what happens. And then lead with curiosity and follow the crime. which is the intentional synchronicity.

Starting point is 00:10:10 Now let's look at, hmm, what are the meaningful coincidence is that show up for me that can tell me whether or not I'm on the right path or do I need to go on a detour to learn more about life and myself so that I can actually land in that space? Did I give too much? No, no, no, no, this is great. And I'm going to try to put it what I heard, I think, in the form of an example you used

Starting point is 00:10:37 the winning the lottery. If we think about rehearsing the having, as you said, what we might rehearse is being abundant, being generous, being disciplined. I don't know. There are a lot of ways of being

Starting point is 00:10:51 that we can rehearse when we think about generating or having a lot of money. And then being curious that it might not show up in the way of winning the lottery. It might show up in a bazillion different ways. And then following

Starting point is 00:11:05 the breadcrumbs when they pop up and give you insight into if your way you're being is in fact generating and being curious about am I on the right track? Yeah, you're totally on the right track. Yeah, you're totally on the right track. Being curious about what the next step is. Like, show me the next step. And what happens is we always get that crumb that we might get a, we might be walking outside and we see it on a billboard or, you know what I mean? Or a song shows up or whatever that. And then we get hope. This is about bringing our hope back and our agency to make choices back because we lose our agency in our modern world, especially women, when we're expected to be all things. And we've taken on the concept of superwoman and go get it and hustle. And I'm so against

Starting point is 00:11:51 the hustle culture and also that there should never be blame in this game. This is all about self-evolution, right? This is, and our brains change when we do this too, right? So when I am grateful for whatever form shows up and I can be joyful no matter what and then get curious about well I wonder what that's going to look like then all of a sudden you know something in my brain starts to turn on because I've told it and as a matter of fact it's the reticular activating system of the brain if you don't mind me if I go into the science piece because it happens to all of us right there's real legitimate you know research on this that we all are born with a sorting system and that's like our own general, our own algorithm in our head, right? So imagine it's like a bouncer at a party.

Starting point is 00:12:37 If you keep rehearsing fear, it's going to let only the fear things coming in, and it's going to show your eyeballs the lit up places in the world where you're going to see that evidence reported back to say that, yes, what I am holding in here is evidential external to me, because that's how we view the world. And if, for example, when you know when you're in a really freaked out mood and you're late, Don't you notice all the red lights happen and then out of the road rage and somebody crosses in front of you. But when you're in a good mood, you're early. Yeah. Right? So anyway, so imagine that bouncer when you're just immersed in gratitude says, wow,

Starting point is 00:13:16 well, that's important, whatever it is that that person is holding space for. So I'm going to only let that come into the party. Everybody else has to go now. We're going to have a brand new party. And we're also going to take the eyeballs. and we're going to see the lit up runway of people, places, things, opportunities that show up for us that make no sense whatsoever, because that's what synchronicity is meaningful coincidences. And we start to see them show up for us because that's the job of our brain. But I know what the big curious part, which I still don't have an answer for, even though I've been in this world, in this intuitive world for 36 years.

Starting point is 00:13:59 but I've still fascinates me, what is consciousness? How does the universe answer us? Why does it? You know, like, what, what? And I'm still discovering that because I know it works. You know, it really does. What is it? Maybe that's what we're never going to find out until we die, right? Even mediumship has been something that's been very curious for me with a big question mark. Well, how did that work? I don't know. Right. So really, when you come down to it, I really don't know. Right? And it's like, and I think maybe that curious hopefulness that we don't know, but maybe that's not for us to know, that the fact that remains that there is something, even quantum physics, now there's this new manifesto for post-materialist science where all the greatest thinkers in the world have signed this document saying that consciousness is fundamental to life. That means everything is alive, everything is conscious. So when we're talking to the universe, it answers us in kind because we've rehearsed a state of being and we're going to see more of that in the outer world. Yeah. You're saying about you don't know. First, I appreciate you saying that, right? I think a lot of times we think we're supposed to have all the

Starting point is 00:15:09 answers and all of that. And so there is still some mystery and some unknown. And it reminds me often I tell myself because my lean is to want to know. I want to know. I want to understand. I want to have the facts. And so sometimes I tell myself, your job isn't to know. It's to trust. It's to experience. Right. Right. Experience and then discover. So yes, to trust. I agree with you. Faith is about trust. Trusting in something that is ineffable and it's amnesian and we know it's there. We know miracles are true. We know that manifestation is a true thing because we're doing it all the time. You know, collective manifestation is being shown out on the world stage everywhere. When groups of people are very organized around a thought or a concept, they can,

Starting point is 00:15:56 make huge, either positive inroads for humanity or very negative ones. Like when entire cultures hate another one, right? You can see how that works. You're swept up. You don't even know why. There's also cultural overrides. So what I talk about in the book is regardless of the chaos of the external world, we still can have faith and trust. That's something beautiful, both and can exist at the same time. And that's why I wrote this book, because we need hope right now. We need hope. Do I know 100% how the cool universe works? No. I had did so much research for this book. I drive all the science writers and Hayhouse crazy. I phone them all the time. Okay, guys, this is what I experienced? One of my clients had this thing happen. What happened? Can you explain this to me? And they're like, well, I think it's this. I'm like, awesome. Thank you. And then I go and research it again. And is that? And then people find out something new. Let's call this what it is, a brief interruption. But supporting the sponsors keeps the lights on and the mics on here,

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Starting point is 00:17:51 get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness with Beducated. I have so many questions, but one of them is if we don't manifest what we want, we manifest who we are. And I know sometimes we feel like we're doing it wrong because we get what we don't think we want. Is there some value in, I don't know if reverse engineering is the right term, but looking at what we're generating and going, what is that telling me? about how I'm being or the beliefs I'm operating or what I'm practicing unconsciously, not from like a judgmental place, but from a neutral curiosity of like, what is what I'm manifesting telling me about how I'm being? Hello?

Starting point is 00:18:38 Yes, this is the best podcast I've ever been on, by the way. This is so good. Thank you. Yes, of course, because why wouldn't we use it as a manner of self-reflecting? Now that said, when difficult, really painful experiences happen, manifesting does not remove suffering from our lives, right? Or from problems or challenges or circumstances in our lives like death and illness. And, well, sometimes we can create our illness. That is true too. Like, what is this telling me? Like when I broke my foot two years ago when I actually, this is how I created this

Starting point is 00:19:10 because I couldn't stand in front of a canvas and I'm like, well, I'm going to do line art. And so I realized that and slow me down, okay, the broken foot was because I needed to slow down. God forbid that I have to keep breaking my foot or something to slow down. But certain things happen because our energy creates a circumstance where we actually have to learn something. But then there are other things where, like my grandfather was in the French resistance movement and we believed he was a French Jew and was killed in a concentration camp. He didn't manifest that, right? You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:19:42 So you can't say everything happens first. reason, but people experience their lives in such a way that within those circumstances, they still can manifest something extraordinary. When you say what we are, I'm a recovered addict, alcoholic, right? My spiritual life, all of this came about because I hit bottom. I had sexual violence in my 20s. I had a lot of stuff happened to me that created to a point in my life from my early 20s. I wanted to kill myself, right? And I'm walking proof that you can transform. And what I had to do in order to become this person that I am today to have this extraordinary life is reflect and inventory as often as I could to see what was I co-creating.

Starting point is 00:20:25 What in me was reflected in my choices that were unconscious, like, oh, geez, it took me a long time to realize all the dysfunctional relationships I had. I was the common denominator. Right. Like, wait a minute. Hmm. Right. You know, so it's like those kind of things I think are really.

Starting point is 00:20:44 crucial. But I want to go back to the I didn't get what I want part. But what if you didn't get what you want yet? And I think that's it. We get very hung up on timing and form. We say, I want to be on this, I want to experience this wonderful thing. And then we get on that path. And, you know, how, like I, my whole life, I saw myself with a microphone in front of thousands of people. Well, that actually, I'll give you a perfect example. the place in Toronto, I'm Canadian, called Massey Hall. And I always visualize this. This was my dream to be in front of thousands of people with a microphone of Massey Hall. Now, my original dream was to be a recording artist. I did have that life. I have two lives, right? Whatever. Here,

Starting point is 00:21:30 but this was my true path. And I had, I left the music industry. This became quite obvious that this was what the spirit had chosen for me. And one day, Hay House did a big event. at Massey Hall, and I stood in front of thousands of people, and it hit me, there I was, the microphone. They were playing my albums in the background, right, while the people were coming in, and I'm like, oh, my God, I see it now. This was all about service, right? So when we are conscious of, what do we want from the thing we say we want, right? Like you brought up, like discipline, imagine generosity. I always think of compassionate prosperity. When I want to create something. I want to create a new business something or something I want to make. I want to see people.

Starting point is 00:22:18 My excitement is seeing the people light up. Like with this book, I know. This is like, once somebody does it, they'll tell their friends. And that was like, and it will give people their agency and their hope back. For me, that was the, that was the juice. Right. So we, when we focus on the juice, we have no control over that, though, and we let it go. We surrender it with joy. That's when the magic can happen. And that's the surrender part that people have trouble with. Well, and I can also attest to how often in my life I've gotten exactly what I wanted. Sometimes it looks how I thought it would, but often it looks very different. And I found myself going, wow, you know, that's interesting. I got what I wanted in oftentimes a much better,

Starting point is 00:23:04 more aligned way. It shows up in a way that's truer to who I am, whereas often when I visualized it back when I didn't know myself all that well, it was for different reasons or different purposes. I'd like to add to that what you said, because I think what you said was very crucial for everybody who's listening, because it is about who you were true to who you are. And so we might get a facsimile of it in the beginning. You say, well, this is sort of because it was true to who you were, right? And as you change and as you grow and you get more self-aware, because it really requires self-awareness to do this, right? To do it in a way that is graceful and giving yourself grace, right?

Starting point is 00:23:46 And then having a sense of humor and being neutral, like you said, that observer, you know, being in that kind of space like, well, that's interesting. That's actually one of the things, one of our mottoes in one of my schools is that's interesting. We just stay with curiosity. Well, I wonder what that means, right? And that's the other thing. We also are meaning makers. We assign meaning.

Starting point is 00:24:06 The human beings assign meaning to everything. What are you making this mean? You know, like my husband and I are perfect examples. He's my type now. I'll tell you. He's the most gorgeous man I've ever set eyes on my whole life. But he was too pretty. I never dated a guy that was so handsome and blonde in these eyes.

Starting point is 00:24:24 I was dated swarthy, Italians or Morocco. I don't know, like just dark hair, bad boys. And he was the nicest man, the most best-looking guy versus. I was so intimidated. And he normally dated tall blonde models. He just never dated outside his type, and we met, and that was the end of that. And I'm this curvy little thing, you know, that does these weird stuff for a living. And it just worked perfect, but neither one of us would have ever imagined the other.

Starting point is 00:24:50 Right? But it's the best thing that's ever happened to either one of us. I say the same thing about my husband. We joke that if we would have met each other any earlier than when we did, neither one of us would have, I would have never seen him and he would not have been impressed by me, right? It was divine timing that we met when we did because it couldn't have happened any time previously because I wasn't who I needed to be and he wasn't who he needed to be.

Starting point is 00:25:17 I love that you said that too because I think for anybody who's listening to the show, you have to know you guys are already manifesting all the time. We're always manifesting. We just want to do it consciously and be aware, right? And then be really excited to see how the universe answers in the question and answer period. It's like, okay, universe here's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:25:41 And the drawing piece of the art of manifesting is the conversation. Like you have the conversation by doing the doodles and anybody can do it. Anybody can do this. You do not need to have one artistic bone in your body to do this. So that's exactly where I wanted to go next

Starting point is 00:25:58 because when I saw the title of your book, The Art of Manifesting, I didn't know you we were actually talking about art, right? the drawing element. So can you share a little bit about what this means and what it even looks like? I know the book walks you through it and gives examples, but for those people who can't see. Oh, you, okay, right. So let's pretend we're not, we're not on video. Okay. So easy to do. All right, easy peasy. So first of all, if you were five years old ever and you ever doodled on a piece of paper, you can do this. And the reason the doodling works, and I'm going to just call it doodling

Starting point is 00:26:33 because it takes off the pressure of art, meditative drawing practice, right? I get it. Like, we should have just said doodle your destiny, but whatever. Anyway, so first of all, you prepare your paper, and you create a symbol. So the paper then, so you do it actually by creating friction in your hands, and that actually activates something called chi. They teach this in Chi-Gong and Tai Chi, and this is not new. I'm a Reiki master, too.

Starting point is 00:27:02 So it's like a way for us to have the sense of energy. So we kind of put our hands together like this. And we wait until we feel pressure pushing back between our hands. And then we push that energy onto the paper by assigning meaning to the piece of paper. So now the paper represents the universe because it's a living thing. It's conscious. It's aware. It's energy.

Starting point is 00:27:24 Because everything is energy. And science has proven that. I didn't make it up. Right? So then what we do is we place a dot on the paper. page. We just draw a little dot on the page, no bigger than American dime, a little bit smaller. So, yeah, U.S. dimes are tiny, right? So, so, like, just a little smaller than a dime. And then you stare at it. And you start to notice that the paper, just you stare right at the black dot, and you'll

Starting point is 00:27:49 notice that through your peripheral vision or your intuitive, spidey senses, you start to see things that weren't there before. And it's kind of weird, and you'll see these little dots start moving around and you're like, what am I looking at? But it's just a way for the brain to go, well, that's interesting. We need to pay attention to this. So basically what you did was you taught yourself something. You signaled to the brain. This is alive. I felt it with my hands. Now I saw something that wasn't there before. So we are calling the invisible to visibility, right? That's what we're doing. So then the simplest way to do this drawing is circles. So we did a lot of research around circles and when they first showed up in human art, like before there was spoken language, we spoke to each

Starting point is 00:28:34 other through drawings. So back, I think it was, I might get this wrong. I think it's 600,000 or 700,000 BCE in India was the first rock drawings that we know of human art that we have evidence for that are circles and wavy lines, right? They're on this rock. So we're like, oh, that's interesting. And then you start seeing these things in cave drawings and things like that, hieroglyphs. So that the round circle has always represented wholeness to us. Also, babies will grab a ball before they're going to grab anything sharp because we instinctively know that is safe. Our cells are spherical. The universe is made of spheres, right? So everything is spherical except the two-dimensional world, which we see, you know, there has a lot of sharp to it. So we draw a circle. So that circle becomes what we call

Starting point is 00:29:22 a portal. So we just draw it really like go round and round, just focusing on gratitude. And if you can't think of something you're grateful for, if you're a mom, I always say, let's go back to a sense memory. If you've had a kid, the first moment you set eyes on that baby, and that came out of you, and you smelled its little head, right? And you fell in love with that, right? It's like, wow, right? For me, I haven't had kids. I couldn't have kids because of what happened to me, but I have, I rescued dogs. So the first time I set eyes on a dog.

Starting point is 00:29:58 that I know is for me, I'm like, oh my God, there's this relationship that I feel. Other people might feel like when they got their first job. You'll just have to have a memory. So like I can recall that experience without thinking about a baby or a dog, just that feeling. And then I could just go with it. So you go round and round. And then you take these things called frequency lines. Now, so imagine right now you're looking at a page, a dot in the middle, and a big circle around that, right? that you've done poorly, likely, because it could look like a potato and it's perfect. And you've traced it a few times, that means there's spaces between the lines. So you're seeing this kind of funky, funky circle of dot from the dot, which represents your

Starting point is 00:30:41 intention to be grateful for whatever it is that you want to manifest, right? You take lines that are wavy and you don't have any pot. They go anywhere they want. They just have to go to the edge of the page. And these are flowy lines that don't repeat. They just go all over the place. And you just let yourself flow. And I like to just start with four and then I go to eight.

Starting point is 00:31:06 That tends to look the nicest anyway and it's easiest. And then you trace those back. So that's your broadcast. Now human beings, all of us, broadcast our thoughts, feelings, and beliefs continuously as a frequency to the universe. Like we're radios. You ever asked, they ever thought about where a song goes? Right? Like, where is that song that we hear on this, right? Like, you know, when you think about it, where is it? Like, where the heck is that? Well, we're the same. We are the radio and we're also receivers. So the universe is going to respond. So we pull back a line, like we trace it back. Doesn't have to be perfect. As a matter of fact, perfection is not, we don't, we don't like perfection. So just bring it back as easy as you want. And that represents the universe answering a couple of times. and forth. And you go, I'm speaking to the universe. The universe is, I'm going to expect,

Starting point is 00:32:01 I trust and expect the universe is going to give me an answer, even if that answer is no, not yet, maybe tomorrow. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, even if it's that, like, I'm just going to trust that there's an answer. But if I'm grateful, no matter what, the form is always going to be perfect. Right. If we start with gratitude, how can you, right? Even if it's like, be happy with an O, you know what I mean? Like, I always also say, take it away from. for me if it's not for me. Take it away and let me know really obviously that this is not for me, right? And I'm always amazed because it's always exciting to see what the universe says. So back to the drawing. So you put round tiny, so you just stay with your drawing for fun and just keep drawing

Starting point is 00:32:47 tiny little circles everywhere. Just fill it up with circles and just keep saying thank you, thank you, thank you, along those frequency lines. And there's obviously more to it than this. But that is the way to do it is just to draw circles and say thank you. And if that's all you do, that's all you learn how to do, it still works.

Starting point is 00:33:07 So I'm excited to try this. And for you, the listener, the book, again, is called the Art of Manifesting. It walks us through this and more. And it brings me to my last question, if we are broadcasting and receiving constantly, And we are made up of our beliefs and our experiences. My question is, through the art of manifesting, through making different choices, through being differently, how much do you believe we are able to change or impact or how much is destiny?

Starting point is 00:33:46 I'm curious, you know, what the science and the experience. We need a whole hour. I know. I know. Okay. I believe two things. One, that we are responsible, response able to co-create our reality in partnership with divinity, conscious universe, whatever you want to call it, quantum field. But I also believe there are certain things that are going to happen. And there are certain things that are destined. But for example, if you looked at my astrology chart when I was drinking and drugging and hurting myself and doing all of that, you would see the potential for what I became, but if I was drinking and drugging and not going to change, none of us would have happened. Do you know what I'm saying? So we are responsible for our, for the experiences, and also to be really aware of that conditioning, for example, because we're often unconscious about those choices and those beliefs, et cetera, because they've been conditioned. You started the show by talking about that, right? So, so I think it's a mix of both. I think we have

Starting point is 00:34:49 free will. And there are certain things. I don't believe in absolute determinism. I believe all of us have the capacity to change and therefore impact the outer world. I do. Yeah. I don't have any evidence to support it, but that's what I believe too.

Starting point is 00:35:06 So I'm glad you're here getting the evidence for us. And thank you, Collette, for being on the show, for doing this important work and for taking manifesting out of this sort of silly, I don't know, social media. You know what I'm saying. I greatly appreciate it. So again, the book is called The Art of Manifesting.

Starting point is 00:35:24 You can find out more about Colette, all of her work on her website, colette baronread.com. We're going to put all the links, all the ways to find and follow Colette in show notes. Colette, thank you. Thank you. What a great show. My absolute pleasure. And thank you for saying that.

Starting point is 00:35:40 Okay, friend, what I love most about this conversation is that it reminds us that manifesting isn't about control or luck or doing everything right. It's not about getting the universe to say, yes to you. It's about saying yes to the universe and to yourself. It's alignment, intention, participation. It's co-creation, not because you can control the outcome, but because you're choosing to engage with possibility. It's about remembering that creation doesn't just happen out there in our goals and in our achievements. It starts in here, in the spaces that we make for stillness, curiosity, and for trust. We just have to be willing to

Starting point is 00:36:21 listen, to the whispers, to the nudges, to that deeper knowing that's been trying to get a word in edgewise beneath all of the noise. So whether you're a believer, a skeptic, or somewhere in between, maybe the point isn't to prove or disprove the mystical. Maybe it's just to stay open to the possibility that you are co-creating something bigger than you can see right now. Because that, trusting your connection, your intuition, your creative power, that's the real magic. And trust me, you are magical. You are mystical, and you're here for a purpose, on purpose. So do your magic, because that is woman's work.

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