This Paranormal Life - #002 Mysterious Giant Frog Shot By Ohio Police

Episode Date: May 17, 2017

When a Giant Frog showed up in the 1930s, the sleepy town of Loveland Ohio was never the same. Even bullets are no match against magic wands and almonds. Rory Powers and Kit Grier find the truth behin...d the froggy fiction.Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are your friends and families aliens in disguise? Is the world really flat instead of round? These are some of the questions that we will have answers to right here on This Paranormal Life. This week we're swapping over the storytelling role. I'm going to be listening to a story presented by Kit Greer and I am so excited about this because you've only told me the premise.
Starting point is 00:00:21 That's right, yes. Let me pose a question, Roy. Okay. How much do you know right about the frogman that's right the loveland frogman of ohio state um very little surprisingly little surprisingly little in my years as a paranormal you think it would be like top of the curriculum like the first thing you learn in school is like do you know there's a frogman yeah okay let me paint a picture let me paint a picture oh god so right let's let's go back in time on our mental time machines to may 1955 it all started in may at around 3 30 a.m interestingly the same so close is that like the paranormal peak point is there a paranormal honor
Starting point is 00:01:02 maybe we should fire up the gospel channel tonight and see what's going on. Just wait for noises. That's when the gates of hell open and frogmen walk the earth. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:13 3.30. 3.30 a.m. I'm putting myself in the mindset. May 1955 in Loveland, Ohio. Okay. An unnamed businessman
Starting point is 00:01:22 is driving home. I don't know why he's unnamed like his mother never named him he's so ashamed of him is it Voldemort? are they just being coy here? Voldemort drove home
Starting point is 00:01:35 after a long night Voldemort is driving home after a long night of casting hexes I'm showing my lack of knowledge about Harry Potter series he's driving home. When he sees in the distance, in the fog of the night, he witnesses three bipedal reptilian entities congregating at the side of the road.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Three of them? Three. Okay. There are three reptilian entities. Reptilian entities is such a great band name. That's amazing. Stop the podcast. Yeah. such a great bad name that's amazing stop the podcast yeah start a thrash bag the man pulls over his car to the curb to watch them he gets up he hides behind the car and he observes that these strange beings stood between three and four feet tall covered
Starting point is 00:02:20 with leathery gross skin webbed hands and feet. The most distinguishing characteristic, however, was their distinctly frog-like heads. Well, you just described a frog and then said they had frog heads. Yeah, it would have been weirder if they just had human heads and webbed feet and leathery skin. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Also, why, like, if you're driving home, it's a foggy night, you're Voldemort, you're stressed, there's a lot going on. This Harry Potter kid's still alive. you want to work today you see like these little frog guys on the side of the road why do you then like stop and get out of your car i know what you mean if i saw something weird like swerve run them down hit them put the car in reverse real quick over them again forwards, forwards, back, forwards, back. And then home if you have time.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Home if you have time. Yeah. That might work on Harry, actually. Why did Voldemort never just hit him with a car? Absolutely. I think you're right on this one, actually, that I feel like anytime I've seen something, hell, if I see someone stuck on the side of the road, I'm driving. I just keep on trucking.
Starting point is 00:03:21 One time, like a homeless guy came up to me. He started talking. I ran. I ran all night. The most distinctive characteristic was their frog-like heads. Okay. And he claims, this is very bizarre, that they had deep wrinkles in their leathery skin where their hair should have been.
Starting point is 00:03:36 It was very disturbing. What? That's what he saw. Okay. And again, this is just another little great detail from Voldemort, that from them wafted a strong odor of alfalfa and almonds. Almonds! Almonds!
Starting point is 00:03:52 These things are standing outside the road, munching on almonds. These little trans-dimensional frog beings, munching on almonds. Why? Also, like, I don't think I've, I don't think almonds for me is a distinct enough smell that I would be able to like pinpoint. Like, that's an almond. Yeah, an almond smell is like the exact kind of smell that you go, that seems familiar. What's that? What's that? And then like days later, it dawns on you.
Starting point is 00:04:15 If they reeked of like Christmas cake or like vanilla, I'd be like, oh, but an almond? I know. I don't know what alfalfa smells like though. No, I don't have no idea. I thought that was like a name. What did I? Alfalfa? Maybe it's like his friend.
Starting point is 00:04:30 It smelled like, who's that guy? It's alfalfa, you know? You know that dude who's always eating almonds? Voldemort suddenly got a voice in our, especially because it's the 50s. So I pull over, and these three reptilianilian looking fellas are munching on almonds. These three scaly wise guys was at the side of the road. I pulled over to sock them, sock them one or two, but then I see they got their brains exposed. I would love it if he just like went full Will Smith, like pulled over the car, like walked up to them and they were like we have come to welcome to earth
Starting point is 00:05:05 but they were just like three feet high and just killed them oh shit oh no he's like stuck in that register now talking to the police officer were they causing you any grief i I just hit him. I was so scared. Yeah. Am I going to go on death row for this? I don't want to die. I'm terrified. I don't want to die for this. I like earth. I like earth.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Okay, what happened next? They turn around. They spot him. Oh, damn. The witness could only describe as a wand a wand was produced one of these frog people takes out a wand a magic wand what like like stick wand or like star on the end of a stick wand yeah like a prince i know i'm gonna go because this is real life so i'm gonna go this is like a gritty stick wand a nasty ass nasty pond wand like covered in like like mossy mossy seaweed
Starting point is 00:06:09 like yeah like kind of like it's dipping at the top because it's all soggy yeah like for sure the kind the kind of voldemort would use yeah that's a fair point for sure i don't like i don't think i would ever see a stick that someone had and just assume it was a wand. You know what? I'm jumping to conclusions. It's probably going to do something magical, I assume. Assume right, Laurie. Next thing, sparks start spewing out of this wand.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And Voldemort escaped as fast as he could. As fast as he could. He got out of there. He went on to tell this tale, and word gets out about the fraud man. The people of Loveland, Ohio are just trembling in their boots. Nothing happens until later that year.
Starting point is 00:06:52 So that was May 1955. Later that year, in August, a Mrs. Darwin Johnson is peacefully swimming in the Ohio River near Evansville, Indiana when all of a sudden she felt a cold, mysterious hand grab her leg
Starting point is 00:07:05 ugh the creature dragged her under the water twice after kicking free of the creature she kicked it away as hard as she could
Starting point is 00:07:12 she quickly swam to shore with the help of her friend Mrs. Lamble and once on shore they checked her leg and it was covered in massive bruises and most chilling of all
Starting point is 00:07:21 a green hand that stained her skin for several days a green hand imprint stained her skin for several days. A green hand imprinted on her leg. That's pretty scary. That's weird. Because like, that's not just seeing something, being a little spooked and walking away.
Starting point is 00:07:34 That's like something making physical contact with you and trying to like drown you maybe? I don't know what the intentions of these frog people are. I mean, we're just confused. First, they smell almonds. They have magic wands. Yeah. They're dragging women under the water.
Starting point is 00:07:48 They don't know what they want. You always hear aliens coming to Earth, and they've got a plan, and they're, like, hyper-intelligent beings that are, like, you know, years ahead of us in technology and social advancements, telepathy, all this, you know, incredible advancements. I think these creatures have come from the gutters like forms of like human feces and nuclear runoff and they just don't know what they are i assume it's like they look like the um frog creature from the simpsons that bart
Starting point is 00:08:21 accidentally creates that just wants to die constantly and just vomiting all over itself. Just cause you mentioned nuclear waste. I'm kind of thinking, was it Michael Bay? Was it Michael Bay redid Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Yes, he did. I feel like,
Starting point is 00:08:32 you know, they were kind of gritty and realistic. Yeah. They were horrible. That's, this is the real story. Like if, if little turtles came across nuclear waste and became giant bipedal
Starting point is 00:08:40 turtles, this is what they would do. They're going with people, dragging them out of the water. Just dragging them around and stuff. Hell yeah. but what happened to them was they got splinter the to straighten them out yeah to exactly get them on the right path you know it was like these are the last holes they didn't get anyone they probably got like a nuclear badger who was like an asshole to just be like yeah go around pulling girls pulling girls' legs and waving your wand.
Starting point is 00:09:06 He was a really hands-off parent. He was just like, I just watch MTV all day. It doesn't matter. Do whatever feels good. They didn't eat a good diet, just ate almonds all day. Just almonds. Oh, my God. So there is a possibility that these are not aliens.
Starting point is 00:09:23 This is like paranormal in a different sense. Yeah. So this is like- This is just a mystery. Okay, a mystery. No, the interesting thing, this gets out, and this is like paranormal in a different sense yeah so this is like this is just a mystery okay mystery no the interesting thing this gets out and this is in 1955 there wasn't a widely recognized next sighting until 1972 i think there's like bits and pieces you know there's the odd asshole comes along i've seen the frog man no you didn't do you have the green scars in your legs no next sighting in 1972 the 3rd of march it's 1 a.m okay close close enough yeah i think after midnight is just just stay in your homes people yeah it's not worth it a credible guy a police officer named ray shocky great name
Starting point is 00:09:59 local officer born in loveland he was traveling along the riverside riverside drive heading into loveland driving carefully because icy conditions when all of a sudden a creature scurried across the road and got his vehicle the creature was fully eliminated and his vehicle's headlights he must slow down here it was four feet tall about 50 to 75 pounds with oh no leathery skin it looks around and stands up straight in two legs staring him right in the eyes before running over to the guardrail of the of the of the road and jumping back towards the river mr shocky's fellow officers then he must have told nobody he goes back he goes back to the precinct and he goes guys you will not believe what i just saw
Starting point is 00:10:43 no no let's do it let's do it you're mr shocky you've just you're coming back to the precinct and he goes guys you will not believe what i just saw no no let's do it let's do it you're you're mr shocky you've just you're coming back to the precinct i'm gonna be the tough and tough and chief who has like lost partners in this job before and you're coming in to tell me about a frog that you saw this is actually perfect by the way because i i left this detail out but actually ray shocky just joined the force one year previously oh my gosh so he's the new guy okay so all right guys guys you won't believe what i just saw oh christ here he comes oh my god i just saw this this bipedal looking no freaking frog no you didn't shaggy no we've had this conversation before i swear it's real this time no it jumped back into the river it stood stood up on two legs. Shockey, I didn't hold my hand over my heart.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I didn't say goodbye to my wife this morning and kiss her. God damn your wife, Chief. This thing's going to kill all of our wives. Damn it, Shockey. This is a quiet town. I know you feel passionate about these frog people. I've seen your drawings in the desk. Ribbit.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Did you just ribbit, Chief? we need to keep this under wraps i catch a fly on the window what was that what nothing all right get out of here this whole conversation i'm like squatting on my desk i cannot imagine how difficult it would have to be i think we're gonna find this a lot where it's like pretty credible experienced normal people who have an experience like this and they have to explain it to like their loved ones and friends it's true and like it just destroy your life imagine being a police officer having to go back to your station and tell me you saw a frog boy i can't imagine what that must be like with like you know these huge cops with like a handlebar mustaches all staring at you and you like come in panting frog boy
Starting point is 00:12:45 oh my god i just it'd be horrible and you're like new to the force you just you're just scared to cat you just pass out on the floor you know you like called in sick to work the previous day they just think you're a loser yeah i mean you genuinely saw frog boy what do you do oh my god i think if this happened to me i might genuinely just deny it until i convince myself it didn't happen yeah you know like when you're younger and you like did something really embarrassing in school or something and you're like i'm just gonna forget that ever happened and then you gradually just it's like it never happened yeah yeah time's a great healer yeah i know like we accidentally killed that homeless man. Like, I buried that so deep. Oh, right, no, sorry.
Starting point is 00:13:28 To the frogwood. Yeah, yeah, sorry. That would be a great move. But I guess, you know, if you see three bipedal quasi-reptilian frogmen in the middle of the night, 3 a.m. on your drive home from doing the rounds, that's going to haunt you, maybe you can't forget maybe you've got to come clean and if you're an officer, as you say
Starting point is 00:13:50 you place your hand on the book, you're doing your civic duty here and telling the world that there's god damn giant frogs on the streets of Ohio that's just your response, frogs chose you fate chose you you think we want to do this podcast we have an obligation
Starting point is 00:14:05 to the people as paraprofessional paranormal professional he's a cat boy you know um paranormal investigators it's part of our job we have to do it it's absolutely true and that's it you know it's we don't want to do this but we don't see anyone else out there telling the facts so we turn on you turn on bbc news you turn on if you know cnn you turn on sky news no one's talking about the facts no one's talking about the frogs no we need to get on this people so we're here we're here you know and a bunch of assholes out there talking about frogs you know oh they're endangered oh no this piece of frog is you know no no we don't need more frogs you know who's saying that the hosts that are probably frogs secretly frogs telling us we need
Starting point is 00:14:50 to breed more frogs saying we need to look out for the frogs take better care of the frogs yeah you'd like that wouldn't you free homes for your pals unbelievable i love the idea it's like a political rant the next planet The next Planet Earth documentary, David Attenborough is like, and climate change has devastated frog habitats. Rip it. Rip it. What we need as a species is to look after all animals,
Starting point is 00:15:16 including frogs, mostly frogs. Rip it. But all animals. Mostly frogs. Mostly. All right, so he's seen this creature. He runs back to the precinct. He sees this creature.
Starting point is 00:15:27 He's freaked out to shit. Okay. You know, he goes back. But actually, au contraire to your situation, shout out to the police department of Loveland, Ohio, but they are extremely receptive of this story, and they really do Mr. Shockey a solid. Maybe they're just, you know, being patronizing,
Starting point is 00:15:44 but they actually go and carry out an investigation on that road. This is how serious it got. You know, the police carried out an investigation. And here's where it gets cool. They actually find scratch marks on the guardrail where the frogman threw himself over the guardrail into the river. What? Like actual, like, nail scratch marks? Because frogs don't even have, like, they don't really have any.
Starting point is 00:16:06 They just have, you kind of suckers. Yeah, until they got wands. Right? I wish for nails. Yeah. No, I should say they don't have any photographic evidence because, hell, it's the 70s. It's not real. Yeah, of course. No, we're joking.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Open mind. We're open-minded. What the hell is going on? Okay, just two weeks after Officer Shockey's sighting, the next sighting was on St. Patrick's Day. That's like almost a time where they can blend in. I'm not a frog. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:16:32 I'm a leprechaun. Yeah. It's like, crazy? Ribbit. Yeah, I've got a pot of gold back in my frog cave. That's not gold. You just painted a bunch of almonds. Hops away. Anyway, I'll go back to the story. It's on St. You just painted a bunch of almonds. Hops away.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Anyway, I'll go back to the story. It's on St. Patrick's Day. A police officer named Mark Matthews found himself driving through Loveland on an icy night. So something to do with ice, something to do with nighttime, brings these frogs out. Right. Suddenly, he sees something crouched in the middle of the road. At first, he thinks it might be an injured or dead animal,
Starting point is 00:17:05 maybe even a frog? But it's huge, presumably! It's huge! It's not going to be... I don't understand how it could be possibly two of those things. It's like he sees something on the side of the road. It looks like a dead horse or a human,
Starting point is 00:17:24 or possibly a frog no no those are so dramatically different things i know it's like maybe it's yeah maybe it's a horse or maybe i'm just really close to a small frog yeah perspective yeah he's looking in the mirror and things might appear closer than they actually are he's confused i get it exactly it is true these sightings have mostly appeared by car so far and that's a really interesting thing about the frogman case of loveland ohio is that they all you know unlike many other paranormal stories they all happen in the kind of same area of like a couple different roads right which kind of you know by the by ohio river which just gives it a little bit more kind of credibility.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Well, that's what we were talking about in the last podcast was that if it's a singular occasion, like a singular location that does weirdly enough, make it seem like a more plausible thing. Cause it's so contained. Yeah. It's not like, Oh, did you, I saw the frog boy. He was in Guatemala. Yeah. He can teleport. Yeah. Well, he doesn't have a wand. So that's true. We, I wish, I wish, you know, the un... We took the wand. Me too, man.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Could you imagine what we could do with that thing? Imagine. I know, imagine like a cursed genie type experience where like he'll grant you any wish, but each time you get a wish granted, you turn into more and more of a frog. So, you know, much like the last police officer, Mark Matthews, he stops his car at the side of the
Starting point is 00:18:47 road brave brave man god love the men of loveland police department he stops his car to remove this thing from the road but before he could get near it oh my god it stands in its high legs facing him officer matthews immediately draws his pistol and shoots the mysterious piece right in its face. Yes, Matthews! Injured and not killed, the thing hobbles over the guardrail yet again and jumps into the river. What? This is just two weeks after the last sighting. When asked about what happened, Mr. Matthews said, and I quote,
Starting point is 00:19:20 I know no one would believe me, so I shot it. You know what? That sounds really comical, but that is the best argument I've heard to date. Because, yeah, think about the guy, a frog's offering you a wand, you run away. If he had just grabbed the wand and he'd be like, look, granted, then he'd probably show it to everyone
Starting point is 00:19:40 it looks like a stick and he's gone mad. But if he brought back to the precinct the carcass of a frog man and just dumped it on the chief's desk and had like a really cool like prepared tagline in his head. Like, was like, how's that for frog spawn?
Starting point is 00:19:56 Or something like cool. And the chief's like, God damn, you crazy son of a bitch. You pulled it off. You know, like something cool like that. That would be awesome. I don't like you all for some math dudes, but pulled it off. You know, like, something cool like that, that would be awesome. I don't like you all for some Matthews, but goddammit, I have to respect your work.
Starting point is 00:20:10 You don't play by the rules, but you get the results. Presumably there's, like, blood, though, on the scene, or, like, they can see his gun was discharged, like, discharged around. This is 70s, bro no no one cares nah people are barely educated people just run around doing whatever feels good this is frogs running around the streets there's no dna test yeah this is this is olden times so you might be thinking right now what a close call officer matthews surely escaped certain death from the
Starting point is 00:20:42 frogman's wand and surely the frogman couldn't survive being shot. You'd think we could rest easy in our beds, but you would be wrong. The frogman lived to be seen again just last year. What? 2016? 2016. Oh my gosh. There was a frogman sighting.
Starting point is 00:20:59 3rd of August, 2016. And we're here now. We have, like, DNA and bigger guns. It's true. And bigger sticks. And we're here now. We have like DNA and bigger guns. It's true. So like we could- And bigger sticks. And bigger sticks. We could wreck this frog.
Starting point is 00:21:11 The times in between the sightings here are insane. So what is this like? This is 1955 and then 1972 and then 2016. Yeah. This frog is over 60 years old. Again though, we could be talking about multiple frogs. We could be talking about multiple frogs. Like a Sasquatch situation.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Did you notice any little frog junk down there that could be used for... No, wait, it's frogs. Certain species of frogs can change their sex, right? Oh my God, is that right? Yeah, I forget. Because isn't that the whole thing with Jurassic Park? They bred dinosaurs with frog DNA, and that's how they can reproduce because frogs can change their sex depending on their situation.
Starting point is 00:21:44 That's why they pay you the big bucks on their situation. That's why they pay you the big bucks, Rory. That's why they pay me the big bucks as a professional paranormal investigator. So maybe this thing... Podcasting from my couch.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Maybe this thing is like banging itself. And as always, we've got this magic wand wild card that anything's f***ing possible. Right, see, I'm always
Starting point is 00:22:03 forgetting about the wand. That's a game changer. That's fair fair i wish for more frogs there you go done yeah the genie's like okay i'm gonna turn you into more of a frog yeah try it bitch i'm already froggy as it gets genie's like this is just sad now yeah like i don't want to do anything but do you want to be a bit more human nah man 100 frog i love this dog he's like a bro frog bro i love that so much where my frog boy's at so the 3rd of august 2016 you're going to love this. Two teenagers are walking along in Loveland, Ohio, playing Pokemon Go between Madeira Road and Lake Isabella in Loveland
Starting point is 00:22:50 when they see a giant frog near the lake, which stood up and walked on its hind legs. This is the frog man all over again years later. This is like, he's walking. He's walking. That's crazy. The young man, Mr. Jacobs, one of the teenagers said and quote we saw a huge frog near the water not on pokemon go this was an actual giant frog uh sorry you sure that wasn't just the bulbazord it was real damn it yeah i don't know
Starting point is 00:23:21 it's like you've called into the police like 16 times a week. I saw a dragon. He was flying around called Charizard. Okay. Okay, son. How'd you get his name? Well, come to think of it. I saw him via the phone. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Okay. Yeah. He said, I took pictures and video because I'd never seen a frog that big. Then it stood up on its hind legs. He said, quote, I swear on my grandmother's grave that this is the truth. I'm not sure whether it was a frog man or just a giant frog. Either way, I've never seen anything like it. See, the interesting thing about this one is that with the Sasquatch one, it was debatable.
Starting point is 00:23:59 It could have been a tall dude because he was really drunk. It could have been some sort of gorilla thing out in the wild. i don't know of any frogs that can walk on their two hind legs that's a big distinguisher it really is and that's what's crazy about it like wands aside all that business you've got like four people or three people here who've seen a frog creature a giant frog creature the same description and then it stands up in its hind legs whenever it sees someone i mean that's creepy that's creepy as hell to this day there are still sightings an ohio farmer says that he saw the loveland frog man cycling a bicycle Because cars are too damn expensive. Isn't that just that boy?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Oh my God. He's a meme. I didn't think of that. It's just him. It's that boy. Kiss close. Oh shit, what up? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:25:04 The farmer reported this to police and they refused to officially report it. But the story did leak to local news and that's how word got out and how we're able to tell that story now. The big question is, are the police in collusion with the frogman? Is this a government cover-up?
Starting point is 00:25:20 Okay. That the police did not report that? That that had to leak? That had to be a WikiLeaks? There's an Edward Snowden of Frogman News. Yeah, like a frog on the inside. Frog on the inside. There's a lot of good questions
Starting point is 00:25:30 raised about this one. You said those kids who were playing Pokemon Go in the woods, you said he got footage. Well, he... It must exist somewhere, right? If you look like YouTube search, like frog boy footage,
Starting point is 00:25:43 Frogman footage. I say we take a moment right now, because I forgot to bring this up, that there's lots of, you know, there's lots of artists' interpretations of what the frog man might look like. So I think now would be a good time for us to investigate that portion of this case, and we will explain to you what these things look like. Okay, okay. So just wanted to investigate some of the reported images and artist interpretations of what the
Starting point is 00:26:09 frog might look like i just imagine because it's a small town so you probably get people coming in all the time complaining about little things and the first time you get a big case and it's like all right like i'll return to the the police sketchman over there and tell him about the culprit and we'll get this sorted it's like the woman the man goes over and the guy's like all right let's do this like cracks out all his pencils he's like good good it's like okay so what do we have well he was a frog man it's like okay he's like oh my god yeah draws kermit he's like is this it yeah yep yep got that so yeah like i studied professionally at university to become a police sketchman, and I had to, like, draw this stuff. He was half frog and half man.
Starting point is 00:26:50 It's like he draws the kind of centaur, but of the frog. Where it's like, no, damn it, not literally half man, half frog. Like a hybrid. Okay. Gives him, like, a bit bigger eyes. Shows it to him again. So you've seen him too. It's like, nope.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Now, Rory, at this point, I'm going to show you some of the images of the frogman what is that it looks like a set of like car headlights on top of a black blob so he's in a river oh wow that's actually really interesting i did not think he's gonna look like that so for reference he kind of looks like he's he's almost doing like a zen pose like he's... In a river. Oh, wow. That's actually really interesting. I did not think he was going to look like that. So for reference, he kind of looks like... He's almost doing like a zen pose. Like he's kind of... It looks like he's like zen posing. And his eyes, he's got like the cat eyes reflection thing where it's like beam and headlights.
Starting point is 00:27:35 It's very bright. It's very bright. It is quite spooky. Yeah. Oh, man. I'd crap myself if I saw that. Oh, my God. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:41 So what we're looking at, people, is the teens that were playing Pokemon Go on Spot of the Frogman actually did take pictures and video. There's not much to see. No, it's pretty dark. It's pretty blown out. It looks like actually, yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:53 the video has been like, the brightness has been corrected here to bring out some of the features. Yeah, definitely messed with. So I don't know. Should we have a discussion about whether we think it's real or not? What are positions on the frog people?
Starting point is 00:28:05 Well, there's one more interesting point in this whole tapestry of the officers that spotted him and the civilians that were affected by the frog man. Perhaps most disturbingly of all, later in life, Officer Matthews, who, if we remember, took a pot shot yeah this goddamn beast later changed his story from his initial report in 1972 he changed the story he said i i only saw a large lizard maybe an escaped pet iguana he said the story no don't backpedal he said he the story had been blown out of proportion and that quote it was and is no monster the animal i saw was obviously some type of lizard that someone had as a pet that got too large for its aquarium and escaped by accident.
Starting point is 00:28:50 It presented no aggressive action. Now, what I want to know, why did the officer change his story? Did the frogman get to him to shut him up? Did the authorities intervene to keep the frogman from becoming an international scandal? We may never know. Like paid him off off like a whole like sacks of almonds yeah as if like so hypothetically these were like alien creatures
Starting point is 00:29:11 they came down landed on earth like imagine if they had heard all about earth but they'd got like one little bit of information wrong and that's that the currency was almonds so they show up like land with just like bags of almonds and like we will be kings among these men it's like all of a sudden they see like people handing like dollars out like ah we have gravely misunderstood this translation yeah how much do these almonds worth about three bucks shit i those are a lot of coincidental things he's like I think it was fine it was clearly like a pet
Starting point is 00:29:46 that got too big and then escaped and then found its way onto the highway and then found me when I was out patrolling and then I shot it and stood up on its hind legs
Starting point is 00:29:53 and then ran into a river afterwards after I shot it in the face insane it's like I don't know an iguana is not taking a bullet no
Starting point is 00:30:03 I'm just saying that right now no it's not physically and not even it wouldn't even take a bullet no i'm just saying that right now no it's not physically and you know not even it wouldn't even take a bullet for you like in out of an act of bravery and i would ask mr matthews to say you know try and say that to mrs johnson's face you know with her wounds from whatever she was grabbed by in the river that's a very fair point how dare he deny this woman the right to complain about a mythological creature? What about Voldemort as well from the start of the story, who presumably at this point is dead?
Starting point is 00:30:29 But he still, he had a traumatic experience with these same creatures. It's true. You can't just discount all of the other evidence based on that retraction. And, you know, what are you to believe? This guy retracts his story or the fact that his story is in line with everyone else's? I think, what are the odds at some point in time he was replaced by a frog like a frog took his face and body like because it seems like they're trying to train themselves up to be like humans yeah like as time
Starting point is 00:30:57 goes on now they're on their two legs were they four feet a second ago now they're they're five you know they're getting they've grown a little hair now in those little fleshy patches they still look a little bit like frogs but sure like just human hair but then frog eyes and then eventually mr matthews we've all seen people with big bulgy frog like eyes yeah we're just way too polite and pc to tell them to their face you look like a frog have you ever heard the story of the lo land frogman yeah imagine seeing that i just like the only problem with doing this podcast is that these paranormal stories are going to work our way slowly into our lives yes and i can just i just know i'm going to be like like out with my friends at some point and there's going to be a moment of silence and i'll be like what's your stance
Starting point is 00:31:40 on frog people like do you think they exist do you not think they exist there's this guy who shot a frog and now just go off on this whole rant i was thinking you're gonna say that you know you're at a bar some night you're having a good time with your friends and then in some sort of sort of like vietnam-esque like ptsd flashback you're gonna start thinking about the frog man you're gonna look across the dance floor and see some steve buscemi dude with big bulgy eyes and you're gonna go like a drunken Harrison Ford over there and wrestle him to the ground are you the frog man are you the frog man answer me where's the wand where is it start searching his pockets he's got a pen close enough to earth
Starting point is 00:32:17 talking to the police I swear officer I love earth i love earth so i think i i wow this there's so many examples of this that it's hard to not it's hard to discount the whole thing yeah uh but also it's a small town seems like a small place those like those things can get circulated you know like i probably wouldn't have ever thought i would see a frog boy yes unless i had been told by my parents that there was a frog boy that people have seen around the village yeah and quite a lot of time has passed so so absolutely right i mean you look at the two teens who came across the frog man last year they have grown up with that probably yeah that's like part of their heritage they
Starting point is 00:33:05 probably have like kids that go out in the woods at night like looking for the frog man like that sort of stuff i mean i can tell you that this is you know become such a thing in ohio and loveland ohio specifically that in may 2014 the incidents were made into a musical titled hot damn it's the loveland frog why hot damn why presumably that's what you say if it's 1955 and you see a frog man they hadn't really invented bad words back then yeah hot damn was like the nastiest thing you could say that's insane that's when the police were like please mind your language mind your language please chief hot damn there's a crazy ass frog out there on the streets because i assume everyone had like um like really really cool like 70s like disco wear as well. Like even the police officers, like cool aviators.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Everyone had a handlebar mustache. Yeah, handlebar mustaches everywhere. I'm going to say. Yes. I'm going to say he's not real. You're going to say he's not real? I'm going to say he's not real. So it definitely is interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:04 But is there a giant frog walking around with a magic real? I'm going to say he's not real. So it definitely is interesting. But is there a giant frog walking around with a magic wand? I'm going to go no. Okay. I'm thinking possibly, possibly. We don't know. He is magic. We could have seen him and he's erased our memories. So hell, one of us could be a frog and we don't even know it.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I think we're both unanimous on that one. It's a no. I think we're unanimous on this one. It's a very interesting story, but I think it's going to be a no i'm very much looking forward to our first yes this is a this is a real paranormal story but as professional paranormal investigators this is our reputation on the line absolutely so you have to make sure that you are 100 accurate when it comes to these diagnostics. We take this seriously. There's no jokes. There's no jokes. Frog boys with wands, scaring people, grabbing
Starting point is 00:34:47 girls, that's not funny. That's not funny. Don't even laugh at that. Don't even laugh. If you laugh during this podcast once, you're a frog. You're a frog person. You find this shit funny? You sick frog. You little tadpole.
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