This Paranormal Life - #004 Lost City Of Atlantis CONFIRMED

Episode Date: May 17, 2017

Did the Lost City Of Atlantis exist? Was Jesus a fish? Why did the Nazis hunt for Atlantis? Does Rory have Atlantis DNA? All these questions answered and more on this episode as Paranormal Experts Rory Powers and Kit Grier investigate.Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Do we live in a computer simulation? Is the government adding illicit chemicals into our water supply to make us more dumber? Did OJ Simpson's ghost frame him? That and more questions on today's episode of This Paranormal Life. Welcome to the podcast. No, no. Usually we move past the intros and go straight into the show. Did OJ's ghost frame him? As if he had smaller hands and the glove did fit the ghost's hands? He was able to commit. Did you make that up or is that something you'd already heard from the man himself? That is both off the dome and fact.

That's insane. I'm sorry for interrupting. Please continue. Welcome to this episode of This Paranormal Life. My name is Kit Greer. I'm your host today. I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Rory Pars. How are you doing today, Rory? I'm doing fantastic. I'm doing great. I'm doing really good. I haven't had much of a paranormal week. So I'm excited for you to bring a new paranormal force to my existence as always the paranormal world is never far from hand and today i have a doozy for you whoa so let me just pose you a question let's dive right in okay let's just go straight in sorry how much do you know yeah about the lost city of Atlantis. Okay, so Atlantis. All right, let's think.

Brainstorm. Brainstorm. Immediate facts about Atlantis. Lost. It was a city. It's gone. It was an island, right? Yeah, it was an island.

It was above the ocean. Now it's below the ocean. For sure. Is it in the earth or is it still just underwater i think it's underwater it's underwater little mermaid correct me if i'm wrong was that atlantis this is something i actually overlooked in researching because i forgot that there's actually a disney atlantis movie it turns out ariel's real sebastian the crab real flounder oh you bet she's real. You're just mixing up all the Disney movies. The Little Mermaid. How much do you know about The Little Mermaid?

Okay, it's actually pretty real. Was that Atlantis that she lived in? It was, right? It wasn't just some undersea village. Maybe I'm going to mix up. So there's The Little Mermaid, but then there was Atlantis, the Disney movie. Did you ever see that? Oh, no, I was talking about Atlantis.

I was talking about The Little Mermaid. Yeah, there was Atlantis., I was talking about Atlantis. I was talking about Little Mermaid. Yeah, there was Atlantis. I think she lived. But wasn't the Little Mermaid's dad like Poseidon or something? Yes. Yes. Or Aquaman. It's like interchangeable, I think.

Wait, was Poseidon the king of Atlantis? Yeah. Well, he was like. What? Something like that. Oh, my God. I feel like I should know more about this. Look, I'm getting bogged down in the nitty grittyitty okay i need you to like let's go straight back to the straight

up wondering how i got myself here okay here we go here we go atlantis the lost city of atlantis one of the greatest legends of all time it has just captivated generation after generation for almost two and a half thousand years at this point. It's the borderline aquatic El Dorado, if I do say so myself. It's better than El Dorado. What? It's ridiculous. Sorry, a city made of gold? A city underneath the water that started all the...

Anyway, I'm going to get bogged down. Okay, okay, sorry. I'm getting riled up. I'm sorry to get bogged down. Okay, okay, sorry. I'm getting riled up. I'm sorry. Okay, not everyone knows, but it was actually Plato, the ancient Greek philosopher who wrote the first record of Atlantis

in his 360 BC book, Timaeus and Critias. That's over 2,360 years old. The ancient myth goes that the Hellenic gods of old divided the land between all of the gods. And so Poseidon is given the island of Atlantis. Oh, wow. It was giant. The island was said to be larger than ancient Libya and Asia Minor, which is sort of like modern-day Turkey, combined.

But Plato said it fell out of favor with the gods and was sunk by an earthquake never to be seen again he said this happened approximately 9 000 years before his time okay that's a really long time now plato as far as i'm concerned is a pretty trustworthy guy yeah he's right up there kirkagard socrates plato it's true you know the three of them it's true they're. They're trustworthy guys. It's like, yeah, everyone knows his name. You know, he's one of those guys. Even if you don't know what he did, he's a trustworthy gent.

Now, the thing is, to this day, no one knows if Plato was being serious. It's like, in his entire life's body of work, in between creating Western philosophy and starting the first university thousands of years ago, he just... western philosophy and starting the first university thousands of years ago he just what he started the first very first university first higher education uh it's called platoville and you shall bow to me all payments for tuition will be made to my pocket. Yeah. First rule, kiss thine ass. Plato, I'm not sure. It's called hazing. It's called hazing.

I'm starting to think this Plato guy isn't that smart. You only have one class, Atlantis. Is that a subject or it's like, ouchie, ouchie to the fields for more hazing i think he's lost it plato has lost the point professor plato in this body of work he just casually mentioned an ancient empire and so we don't know did this really happen or is plato simply using the idea of at Atlantis as a way of discussing his political ideas? Right.

Because he's like a philosophizer. He was a philosopher king. You're right. So, you know. It could be a metaphor. Exactly. So he could just be because he was coming up with these political ideas and some people say, oh, well, he was just, he needed somewhere to put his political, you know, ideas to work

on. So he just made up Atlantis. It's like love thy neighbor, but sometimes thy neighbor is a piece of shit. A piece of shit. You don't want to love thy neighbor. Sometimes you just want to burn a bag of dog poop. Burn thy neighbor's house down.

Right? Wasn't that what you were going to say? For sure. Burn that, yeah. So move on. It could be different. It could be different. Yeah, it's like Jesus said.

It's just a bunch of well-meaning stuff. Right. But did it happen? Did it happen? I don't know. I'm a bigger Christian than anyone. This is getting into offensive territory. Are you trying to say you're a bigger Christian than I am, bro?

I am twice the Christian you've ever been. Oh, my God, dude. Oh, my God. I love my neighbor so much more than I do. When did it happen? I'm not sure about that. But two of every animal. I'm sure about that. But two of every animal. I'm sure of that fact.

Quiz me again. Quiz me again. How many fish? How many people did he feed? A ton. That's how many. A metric ton. A Jesus load of people.

That's how many people he fed. I don't actually know the specifics. 40? Was it 40? 40 loads of bread? Was Jesus a virgin? Was? Oh, shit.

That's another conspiracy for another day, boy. What? Dangling that fruit above me. Stop paying that over the podcast. Stop paying that Jesus virginity. Oh, Christ. All right, Atlantis. Well, no one knows whether it was real or not,

but crucially, Plato wasn't the only guy to write about Atlantis. No. The plot thickens. The Jewish philosopher Philo, like the pastry, also wrote about Atlantis a few hundred years later, around the year 0, citing an earlier philosopher, Theophrastus. But the problem is, maybe these guys just influenced each other and ended up writing about the same idea. Right, right. The way I thought about this, imagine in 2,000 years from today,

like the year, like, 4,000 and whatever, humans have gone extinct. Aliens are investigating the Earth and, like, rummaging around, and they find the 2007 Kid Rock version of Sweet Home Alabama. So half the aliens are like, what is this incredible place where they're making love by the lake, drinking whiskey from the bottle? And the other half of the aliens are like, it's not real. Kid Rock only made up Alabama to sell albums and to be able to buy more drugs. But then they discover the Lynyrd Skynyrd version of Sweet Home Alabama.

Right! And half the aliens are like, are you seeing this right now? These guys were singing about Alabama way before Kid Rock, so it must be real. Alabama confirmed. Yeah, like the legendary Alabama confirmed. What's the radius we're talking here

in terms of years? Because you said someone's talking about it in year legit zero. Zero, and then Plato was the first guy we were initially aware of. He talked about it 300 years prior to that. Okay, 360 BC. So he talked about it.

I should clarify. He said it disappeared 9,000 years before he was alive. Jesus! A long time ago. Who told him? That's a really good question. The cast of the last long... go that's a really good question the cast of the last long long

i had a pun there and i couldn't quite deliver it the the the there you here we go the cast of the land before time that's a good one so that's a really good question. And the problem is before people like Plato, the whole idea was he was the first philosopher. He was the first academic. People before that just weren't writing down. So it's all kind of word of mouth. And so he says that maybe philosophers before him went to ancient Egyptian scholars and that they learned about it from that.

But the problem is that this is so long ago that, you know, it's like the library of Alexandria or, you know, like sunken Egyptian cities that these things just get evaporated or destroyed by other civilizations. And then there's no record of it left. But this is where Hellenicus of Lesbos comes in. So he wrote about Atlantis at least a full century before Plato did. So for this whole time, up until quite recently,

we thought Plato was the only guy and that he made it up. But then someone comes in a hundred years beforehand and he's talking about Atlantis too. So suddenly starting to seem like maybe Plato wasn't the only guy to have just made this up. If we thought Plato was the first one, was that a recent discovery then? This other person talking about Atlantis?

That's right. The idea is that Hellenicus might have heard about Atlantis through texts from Oxyrhynchos, an ancient Egyptian city that was founded about 1898. In 1898, about half a million ancient texts written on papyrus were found literally in a dump. Wait, what? written on papyrus were found literally in a dump wait what so many in this ancient city this is over 100 years ago that oxford university has been translating them constantly for over 100 years they've been translating these since 1898 and they're still if you can go on their website today and they're still releasing translations of these. They release about a volume a year.

No, no, stop for a second. No, time out. Pause the podcast. Pause the podcast. They found ancient texts. Half a million ancient texts. Half of a million. All right.

Automatically, that's ludicrous. It's ridiculous. That's mad. It's ridiculous. It's fake. I'm going off the bat to say it's fake. Pulling out the wires. Straight up JK Rowling writing as we squeak i think how was there not an algorithm or a program in place

possibly by zuckerberg himself to automatically scan and translate these discs in in a fraction of a second and with a mega computer yeah for, for sure. Right? Like, why is this, like, presumably, I'm assuming, some old man at his desk, second by second, carving away at an old stone being like, oh, that's a bird. That's an egg. And that's a trident. That's Atlantis.

Because they've been doing this since 1898. They've got some old lame-o sitting behind a rock doing that when they need a zark f***er bird behind the keys. I think the guy that they've got translating these freaking tablets is an Atlantean himself. And he's taking his sweet-ass time. He's like, y'all are going to die before you find out what's at the bottom of my ocean.

It's like, y'all motherfuckers are going to die before you hear about this gold. He's got gills. He's just a fish. You know what? He demands a cup of water every half hour, but goddamn it, Steve is a hard worker. Steve is a hard worker. He's flopping on the desk.

How's it going over there, Steve? Straight up magic harp. Just like... He's the only one who gets results. What can we say? So the more you look into this, there are even more little interesting hints here and there that somewhere like Atlantis did indeed exist. For for one the ancient druids of gaul which is sort of modern day france and switzerland

i had no idea they wrote about this time and said that people arrived into their land fleeing disasters in their own country okay so these druids hanging out in france and people are arriving these mysterious people from far off land, and they're saying, our own home was devastated, we need to come to your home. And this is, again, these people aren't even, they're not even saying it's Atlantis. We're just trying to piece this together. We don't know where these people are from. They could have been from anywhere.

Trying to piece this together in the timeline. But it's just a little hint. One reason people keep coming back to the theory of Atlantis is because we look at civilizations like the ancient Egyptians, the Aztecs, the Mayans. As you know, Rory, they seem too advanced. They seem too advanced for the time that they were in. Absolutely. Building the pyramids, building

these, they were able to map the stars. They knew about telescopes. They knew about Starbust. They knew about iPhones. They knew about all this because the hollow Earth did exist. Ancient Steve Jobs. Hang out in Egypt. You mean about Pharaoh Steve Jobs.

You don't need to try and convince me. I'm right there with you. There are civilizations in the past that are more advanced than we possibly are now. Is that a bold statement? Sure. Am I ready to back it up with facts absolutely not ready to back it up but that's not gonna stop me you're damn right my address yeah bring it on you fishy bastard i got two right here for you a little thing you're not confused about something you're not prepared to H2 and O

I like some of this for zaps ah shit that's water isn't it yeah fuck I was gonna say you're so confused

they're well prepared for that what's oxygen it seemed good for that. What's oxygen? It seemed good in the moment. What's oxygen? Oxygen is just a base element. It doesn't have any... Just O, isn't it? O?

Yeah. I like this for size. Kiss both my biceps at once. O! O! O! That's the noise I make while he's beating me up i got hit by a fish h2o is more letters than oh

jesus so these civilizations just seemed a little bit too advanced so when we hear from plato that there is a lost civilization about 11 000 years ago this could kind of make sense of the incredible technology were these technologies gifted by the Atlanteans? This is why it's attractive. Because this could be the mother civilization of all other civilizations. And we just don't know where they went. They went like that and gone.

And I know what you're thinking. No, you don't. No, you don't. Because I think it's all bullshit. The Nazis were pretty interested oh shit the nazis are here oh i'm excited now please do not do the indiana jones theme while referring to nazi adventures it was very misleading because they were really interested in the aryan race the blonde hair the blue eyes they were they were the problem is the aryan race blonde hair blue eyes gills

trident fish scales tail all that aryan shit aryan shit hitler loved that shit uh but the problem is the aryan race isn't really a race it doesn't come from anywhere in particular that was the problem they just kind of decided on these characteristics absolutely but there's no like genetic history but they thought if they could find Atlantis, this would prove that Aryans are a separate and superior race. This would be the mother to Western white civilization. They even hypothesized that Jesus was from Atlantis. Whoa.

Yeah, because they didn't like the idea that Jesus was Jewish. So they said, so this superior guy coming down and teaching the rest of the world all these incredible telepathic and supernatural techniques was a fish he was a goddamn fish jesus had gills he kept fit on that thing he left that bit out of the freaking bible it's like a i don't know what they would do. So lots of people got attached, not just the Nazis, lots of people got attached to this idea of being descended from Atlantis.

And some have hypothesized that people with extremely rare blood types are from Atlantis. Like, what's the universal blood type? Like O negative? Is that the universal? The universal donor? That's the universal one. That's right. Yeah.

Yes, yes, yes. So people have hypothesized that... I've never heard of this one. The RH blood type. What? RH negative. Those could be people from Atlantis. It's an extremely rare blood type.

And they could be from a tiny, tiny genetic past that dates back to Atlantis. That's not real. The RH blood type? It is. I had to look this up, but it's super real. That's how rare it is. Another popular idea. Seawater. You are a very

specific donor. We need to save this shark's life. Are you willing to donate your blood? What is that voice? I don't know. A royal fish? Are you willing? It's king. Are you really a doctor? Are you a doctor? Of course I am.

Your majesty. I am literally a person. Why are you calling me majesty? I've never met. Blood type in our culture seems like such an insignificant thing like i know in japan they have romance books based on like how to uh like seduce and interact with people with different blood types than you are you serious yeah so it's like if you're like astrology like you're like exactly yeah yeah which like this makes a lot more sense because there's some science behind it like well that's true yeah

so it's like because at least i know that you'd be like, oh, negative or something like that. It's like, oh, these types of people are usually a bit something or will react better to seashells, you know, something like that. So it is cool, but it is interesting to see this like weird blood type appear all out of nowhere. I've never heard of it before in my life. Yeah, there you go. People have also said, this one took me by surprise,

that potentially red-haired people, people are descended from atlantis ariel ariel it's ariel i'm sorry like did you did this not like like tweak a bit of interest at any point in your research with the aerial the little mermaid the little mermaid because isn't it like isn't that the most government thing? To slip some facts into something juvenile? So you got aliens. We got aliens. Flying saucers, big grey things, big eyes, big heads,

tiny little lanky bodies. That idea has come from somewhere. That idea of an alien has come from somewhere. Has that been fed into us by the government like kind of like leaked this like hollywood is like showing these images of these creatures is that to like lessen the blow of when aliens do appear that they actually look like the ones that we've seen so we're like it's aliens you know and we're not just like completely like

our minds are destroyed lost our faces melted. Exactly. So maybe the government and Disney are working together to drop You know Walt Disney is working with the government. You know he's working with the government. He's frozen underground right now as we speak. Probably in Atlantis for all I know. For all we know. Leaking little info

about the Little Mermaid, about Atlantis, about Tritons, about Poseidon to us so that when it's finally revealed and it resurfaces i assume that's its ultimate goal uh that we will not be as surprised or maybe we're going to join them at the bottom of the ocean maybe they're leaking it or maybe it's just like a santa claus thing because everyone thinks santa claus wears red clothes and then you it's like that's like conspiracy 101 there's coca-cola made santa clothes right oh who knows we don't know if it's you're saying like poseidon's a woman right and he likes to wear red he likes to wear red and drink dr pepper i see what you're getting at. It's the government spinning lies. 45 minutes later.

He likes to wear red. That is interesting. That is like red hair. People have hypothesized people with red hair are descended from Atlantis, given there's only a tiny percentage of them globally. So this would mean that the Basque people of northern Spain and the Celtic people of Ireland are direct Atl the celtic people of ireland are direct atlantean descendants okay which rory makes you potentially atlantean i was just gonna say because i have blonde hair and blue eyes aryan yes my sister and mother have red hair it's right very celtic uh am i a fish where are we now like where are we now though you've just been dousing beer

overhead yeah we're gonna stay moist actually i gotta stay moist obviously like every human so thankfully roy for scientific purposes one atlantis researcher has prepared a quick questionnaire and can help us find out if you may have Atlantis DNA. Oh my god, I'm so excited. So, what is your blood type? I don't know. Okay, that's a fail. You're not Irish. You're not a fish.

What color are your eyes? Blue. Blue eyes. They have dark piercing eyes. Let's move on. Shit! Oh no! Damn it, I can change them. I'll change, blue. Blue eyes. They have dark piercing eyes. Let's move on. Shit! Oh, no! Damn it, I can change them. I'll change. Please. Do you ever feel you have a desire for isolation? Do you feel like you don't fit in? With the normal world.

And you feel like you fit in with Atlantis. Answer the question. Yes, yes. Isolation. isolation okay that's interesting i like that's really interesting i like being alone i like tall glasses question four sorry yes sir do you ever feel yes fish overlord excuse me yes fish king i'm sorry sir do you ever feel a part of something you can't find yes Yes. Constantly. I feel like my home is sunk in the ocean. I feel like I'm a fish lost in this world.

When people say there's plenty more fish in the sea, I take it literally. I think of my home okay good answer yeah that's a good answer yeah my home is Atlantis. Question five. Do you ever dream of the Akashin Hall of Records? Have we talked about that previously? No, anyway. No, I had a dream about it once. I've had dreams before about libraries. Like the Pagemaster.

Everything was ink and it came to life and I was a fish. Please bring me to Atlantis. Do you ever overanalyze situations? constantly interesting or depending if you want me to not say that then never

no I do always I overanalyze that whole question for example do you trust established governments? no overanalyze that whole technologies come easily to you? Yeah, oh, absolutely. Yeah. It's as if I've known them for hundreds of years.

When I first held my iPhone 6 Plus, it was as if holding a pacifier from an early age, it fit snugly into my gill. He slid it. I arms uh yeah next question final question final question i can use this would you say you're a loud person or a quiet person oh that's that's good because i like i feel like i'm I can be quite a loud person in situations. But underwater, I relatively am quiet as I can't make noise. Yes, sir. I believe you to be an ancestor of Atlantis.

Really? Yeah. So that's like, so I got what? Like I got the majority of them right. I'm going to say about 70%. But I think 70% was probably accurate. 70%. And that's...

Well, according to this researcher, that is the kind of, this is the kind of personality questions that would apply to someone from Atlantis. Right. Don't believe in the government. I'm comfortable with futuristic technology. I feel like I don't belong in this current establishment i feel like i'm built for something more i feel like my home was sunken thousands of years ago sometimes i gasp because

oxygen isn't enough and i need h2o to fill my lungs it's true uh can i just ask what qualifications this man possesses. Moving on. A few people really... Shut down the podcast. This meeting's over. Try to f*** with me. F***ing fish. F***ing fishy bastard. Few people know that the popularity of the mystery of Atlantis is really down to one man.

That is to say, the popularity of Atlantis today is down to one man, Ignatius Donnelly. I'm sorry. No, it's not. No, it's not. Because I've heard of Atlantis and I've never heard of this man before in my life. Well, you should have, Rory. He's part of your political heritage. He's a U.S. congressman in the 1800s and an Irishman.

Oh. And he was obsessed with the idea of Atlantis. In 1892, he wrote a book proposing that Atlantis was the original ancient civilization that created all others across the world due to their incredible technological sophistication. He also proposed that Atlantis was home to the biblical Garden of Eden That is so cool. Isn't that cool? Like, what did you say, 1892? Like, imagine being alive in a time in this world

where you can make claims like that and be a congressman and be like, that actually being an authentic was like, yeah, well, how do we know? Sure, that could be true. It really could be. That's so cool. All this like, all this modern day, it's like, oh, science, facts. I know. Oh, my God.

It's so draining. Oh, my God. Reason. Jesus. Money. Give me a break. Taxes. My parents always saying, you're shit, Rory.

You're never going to get a job. The government saying you owe us taxes. Atlantis isn't real. Good Lord. You still owe us money. How are you ever going to support a family? Doctor, oh my God. You'll never love anyone.

You are going to die early to keep up this ridiculous rate of eating. It's insane. I am envious of a time where such speculation was admired. We had such freedom. Exactly. Freedom to think. Freedom to swim with the fishes. Freedom with the swishes.

So this might sound far-fetched, but we do know that there have been periods of flooding in the Earth's recent history. Okay, get this. In Plato's account of Atlantis, he places the destruction of Atlantis about 9,700 BC. Of course. Which is 11,700 years ago. To now? Yeah. Okay.

11,700 years ago. That's the longest time ago. That's pre-agriculture. 11,700 years ago. That's the longest time ago. That's pre-agriculture. 11,000. Yeah, that's... And so he proposed this over 2,000 years ago. But what we now know today is that the last ice age also ended 11,700 years ago. Isn't that insane?

How could he possibly have known that? Is it a coincidence? Surely it's way too precise. Does this give Credence the idea there may have been Atlantis? Is it maybe not so crazy to think that it might have inspired the Garden of Eden, that there was this one place where humans lived in technological advancement and harmony, and then the Ice Age ended, it flooded the Earth, tsunamis destroyed Atlantis, and they fled to other parts of the earth.

The Garden of Eden was destroyed and they entered other parts of the earth. That's crazy. The fact that it's so closely linked with the disappearance of Atlantis and the actual end of the Ice Age. That's some sketchy stuff. Ice melts, more water. Atlantis goes underwater. The science checks out. Because there's more. I i mean that's just it's

maybe have you guys ever had a coke float that's all the science you need to know i was gonna go with like the the arc and the flood but you went straight to coke float very pretty i'm actually just hankering a coke very very different very different angles on the on a similar similar topic once more delicious what the arc no the coke float well the two of every animal sounds amazing well that's true because you can barbecue the shit no it did like no it did on the like life in the new world this way this way do i smell hot coals no dude the dude. That's a new world. This way. All right. Keep coming. Noah was the devil. He was just getting animals into his coal dungeon.

Just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go on. Go on, boys. Go on. Go on. Go on. So that's what we basically have at this point is a lot of interesting coincidences. We have Plato giving his pretty vague description right of atlantis we've

got a few different philosophers a few different historians pointing to something a little bit like this we've got the the druids of gaul we've got the um the ice age records which are pointing to a similar kind of time period but i hear what you're saying where is the proof where's the facts the hard evidence surprisingly there actually is some in 2011 not true a u.s 2011 a u.s research team began the hunt for atlantis using plato's writing as the map 2011 that is dangerously recent oh super recent that's that's how if you think that's too recent oh my god Despite throw me a backpack. We're going now brother

Throw me a backpack at a Trident. What? Jesus Christ The room is filling with water. I don't even know how he's doing this shit Despite people doubting Atlantis' existence, Plato was actually really specific in his description of the island itself and its whereabouts. He said, It lay near the Pillars of Hercules, which was the ancient name for the Straits of Gibraltar. And so the team began searching in this area. And amazingly, using satellite imagery and radar, they found structures underneath the water

that matched Plato's description of the city. It was made up of concentric rings with canals in between each ring. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, my God. They also found something that no one expected. The architecture under the water matched strange ancient cities

built in central spain that were also made up of ring structures we know that tsunamis are well documented this area could it be that when atlantis was destroyed by the tsunami survivors moved inland and built memorial cities in the shape of their home it's like when people from other countries move around the world and they name places after their hometown. Right. It's like there's a bunch of Irish immigrants emigrated to the Caribbean, became slaves in the Caribbean.

And whenever you go there, there's loads of Irish place names and streets. That's why London, there's London, Canada, and a Paris, Texas. See, this is why I hate this podcast. This is the only reason I hate this podcast so much is because what you're doing right now is making me believe in atlantis like i am i am borderline believing in atlantis right

now it's like the judicial system you should prove without a reasonable doubt you know that's how you convict someone of of a felony and if you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that atlantis didn't exist that i'd be on board but there is a reasonable doubt from what you're saying there is bits and pieces in more recent times james cameron of avatar and titanic fame he went looking for atlantis and what he found was many 4 000 year old stone age anchors for boats okay in the same waters that plato claimed atlantis resided in i'm sorry like but like why had no one like why has no one gone why is it taking james cameron to find these anchors if they've been there you know like the earth is only so big but who's Who hasn't done that first?

Well, what I would say, first of all, the Earth is only like a quarter land. The rest of it is water. The rest of it is Atlantis. The rest of it belongs to the seafoam. Poseidon is at least 45% of the Earth. And I don't dare you to cross them, Rory. I don't dare you to cross them.

In fact, I don't think you should even badmouth them on this. And I think you should just go along with me in this whole project. Yeah, Atlanta is quite a small percentage of the earth. And whilst we've mapped quite a lot of the ocean floor, we haven't specifically dived down and seen all of these contents. But as you said, this is a specific location mentioned by Plateau himself. So why hasn't that been under investigation like that seems like a pretty obvious place there definitely have been atlantis investigations right um but no

one's got that sweet ass james cameron money that's honestly a part of it that's sad isn't it that is sad i feel like a lot of earthly investigation come down to cash it really does i mean like it's so depressing in fact what you find in some of these because as we mentioned before that there are you know spanish towns with ancient architecture that seems to resemble atlantis architecture the problem is like literally these sites are going partially unexcavated because there is no money coming from the government to excavate these sites so they're literally just getting built up on with like apartments and things like that even though they're like 4 000 5 000 years old unbelievable so it takes the likes of james cameron to come along but it also takes a bit of luck and in this

case they did come across these anchors and not just that but he also found the same stone age anchors and atlantean architecture with the concentric circles in the azure's islands about 2 000 kilometers away way further than where we thought people could actually sail back then does that mean that there was an advanced sea nation like atlantis around that time so 4 000 years ago almost 2 000 years before plato was alive and alive to talk about atantis, there was a seafaring nation traveling thousands of miles across the Atlantic and building temples on neighboring islands. This sort of starts to play into the idea of what Plato was talking about, about an advanced nation well before everyone else.

Lastly, I love this one. In Plato's account, he also talked about a mysterious precious metal, red metal, called oracalcum. He said that Atlantis glowed red with the metal and it was used to adorn Poseidon's temple. Again, people were convinced that like Plato's myth of Atlantis, this was just a figment of his imagination because no such red metal was ever found Until 2015. What? A team of marine archaeologists discovered a 2,600-year-old shipwreck off the coast of Sicily. And inside, 39 pieces of mysterious,

never-before-seen metal that match Plato's description of Oracalco. Is this some of the last remaining evidence of Atlantis? So these divers discovered a new metal? Yes. And it seems to match Plato's description of the metal that is used in Atlantis. I'm low-key losing my mind right now.

It's pretty cool. Because that's, that's, like, before, when was this discovered? When was this new metal discovered? 2015. What? Yeah, this is brand new. There are people searching for Atlantis all the goddamn time. And that's a metal.

That's like an element that's never been discovered before. It's not an element. It is an alloy, I should say. It is an alloy, meaning that it's made up of individual other metals combined to make another metal. What's it called? Or a calcum. I'm going to look it up right now.

Do you want me to spell it out for you? For the listeners at home? Yes, I do. Yes, I do, please. O-R-I. I'm not there yet. It's going to take me about 25 minutes. I'm actually locked out of my iPhone.

O-R-I. C-H. C-H. A-L. A-L. C-U-M. C-U-M. That's it.

Oh, my God. It's true. All of it. The legendary medal of Atlantis. Jesus. What have we done? So this was all recovered from the same location? Either the Mediterranean Sea, either east or west of the Pillars of Hercules, as described by Plato.

Okay. It seems like a lot of coincidences lining up. It sure does. Plato says stuff's melting. He says stuff's sinking when things were actually sinking. He's talking about metal that's actually appeared in real life. We have records of the flooding. We know that there was an Egyptian city ancient Egyptian city Heracleion was destroyed in a flood just as atlantis was there's been greek islands destroyed in the floods but was there something that old we just don't know i can understand if there was an ancient civilization that disappeared that's a common thing the surface of the earth has been changing for many many years water levels have been rising uh terrain has been disappearing since

the birth of the planet like they found maybe parts of ruins of ancient cities did they find iphones down there or ray guns no no they haven't they haven't found spaceships they haven't found space bucks so maybe atlantis may have existed but there's no proof to confirm that it was some sort of advanced alien civilization or advanced human civilization, aside from the fact that there are designs and styles like spread across the world. I'm skept. I'm still a skeptic. You're still a skeptic?

I'm scale a skeptic i'm skill i'm i'm scale a skept fish i think the key lies in ignoring the tales that it was they had steve jobs and iphones they were doing what everyone else was doing but 5 000 years previous to them that seems to be what's amazing about this is that you have plato and the greek civilization you have Plato and the Greek civilization, you know, two and a half thousand years ago, writing about Atlantis, and then using the same technology that Atlantis was using 2,000 years before that. Just an insane stretch of time. You know, we grew up learning about, let's say, Jesus, and he lived 2,000 years ago. And that's about the same time that Plato lived, very roughly.

But if you just think that, judging by these Stone Age anchors that James Cameron has found, those were potentially older to Plato than Jesus is to us. That sentence alone is like a tagline for a documentary. That's madness. That's absolutely insane. James Cameron is closer to anchors and plate wait this is insane james cameron is more of a rock more of a rock than cleopatra was to borderline

jesus that's yes it's mind-blowing so i've given you the facts I've given you the facts. I've given you the statistics. I've given you the theory. I've given you the criticism. Where do you lie? Where do I lie? I'll tell you where I lie. At the bottom of the goddamn ocean where I belong. In Atlantis.

Take me, Poseidon. Take me. I believe. I believe that there was once possibly a nation called Atlantis that may have been advanced maybe they had flint on the end of their sticks a bit sooner than the other countries

had flint on the end of their sticks I believe yes maybe Atlantis exists at the bottom of the ocean but it is not the mermaid loving trident throwing But you don't believe that Christopheropher columbus had gills is that a rumor no right well no no i don't believe christopher columbus had gills i don't believe christopher columbus had gills i don't believe in poseidon lest he strike me down now

i was i made sure it was very far away from any water source there you sip your beer uh where do you where do you sit on because you've researched more than i have evidently it's pretty convincing i have to say it's real i'm sorry when you get in there it's pretty convincing you think though that it was actually an advanced city that sunk to the bottom of the earth and what i don't think they had iphones right okay but i tend to be in the same in the same camp there seems to be enough evidence that human civilization goes back further than we give it credit right goes back more than just a couple thousand years it goes back maybe four five six maybe eight nine ten eight hundred thousand

million billion years everyone's about about to hear aliens exist. They're inside the earth. Everyone go to the earth. Aliens are there. But it's not, but it's not, it's not what we think it is. I don't think they got further than we did. I guess that's the crux of it. Right.

Do you think they got further than we did? No, but I think they lived a long time before we give them credit for. And I think they may have started a lot of civilization across the world that we don't give them credit for. So the weird conclusion of this is kind of that Atlantis does or did exist. Yeah, that's what we seem to be coming down the side of. Oh, God. This is how I didn't want this a podcast to conclude with i was so afraid that it was going to conclude with me saying that atlantis is real

and yeah i guess yes it could be probably like if freaking james cameron is finding anchors then hell what's yeah fine it could be real honestly yeah an old city sure why not i don't think it's titan throwing i don't think it's magical i don't think ariel's down there i don't think well well hold the phone remain bro separate podcast episode two did the Episode two. Dead the Nazis. Under the sea. Yeah, I think Atlantis could have at one point been a real place. Well, that about wraps it up for this episode, folks. Don't use that as the tagline. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah. If you have your own experiences of Atlantis,

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