This Paranormal Life - #012 The 1979 Alien-Human Battle No-one Knows About

Episode Date: June 16, 2017

What happened in Dulce, New Mexico in 1979 may never be known. But according to UFO experts, there was an all-out battle between aliens and humans, where 66 government agents died. We listen to an actual testimony from a survivor. And as always, find the truth behind the mystery!Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Was Michael Jackson a time-traveling pharaoh of ancient Egypt? Is the sun actually really close and just not that hot? The answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life. Welcome to the podcast. I'm your host today, Mr. Kit Greer, and I'm joined by my paranormal host, my professional paranormal host investigator, Mr. Rory Pars. Welcome, Rory. Thank you very much. Pleasure to be here. Yeah, are you having a paranormal week?

Reasonably paranormal. Reasonably. I've had a busy week of work. That's pretty unusual. Is that spooky? I don't know. I'm scared for my health. That's kind of spooky. I've dark circles around my black eyes. If that's spooky, I kind of scare myself

when I look at myself in the mirror is clinical depression spooky because if so I'm a goddamn goblin is pre-diabetes spooky I guess so kind of scary folks here's a scary story I can't pay rent how's that for spooky i don't know where my next meal is coming from there's a little spook for you boo you broke how's that how's that that's what the bank manager said to you turns out paranormal podcasting isn't really a cash car well you'll be glad to know i've i've got know I've got just a crazy adventure for you this time around. I cannot wait. So tell me, Rory, you're from the United States of America.

What do you know about Dolce New Mexico? Surprisingly little. As a man from Dolce New Mexico. The legends are true. Let me start with that. Nothing. All right. Well, why would you know anything? After all, it's a small town.

It's 120 miles from Albuquerque, New Mexico. Yeah. And it's based on the Jicarilla Apache Indian Reservation. Ooh. Home to about 2,600 people. Really small. Nearly entirely Native American population. Well, the sleepy town of dulce went on

to become the site of one of the most controversial cases in paranormal history a story so desperately covered up by the powers that be that just to hear the story endangers your very life good god so anyone who wants to live just stop listening now oh that's good we should do a disclaimer here so we're gonna get into some weird paranormal shit here this is gonna put you on some government lists you're gonna go on a list dude if you continue listening to this podcast this is the disclaimer you should stop right now if you don't want to be woke if you want to continue rat race lives living in the gutters you just want to you you know in the matrix when morpheus offers the red pill and the blue pill? This is the f***ing red pill, dude. I'm travelling to the States later this year.

I'm out of my damn mind if I think I'm getting to the country after this podcast. Flagged at the gate. Kit Greer from this paranormal life. Dark gun to the neck immediately in the middle of the entire airport. It's clearly an alien with like a hand of our moustache. Come with me bill clinton at his side every ex-president that's alive and dead by the alien side so if you're still here congratulations you're not a little bitch it all began with a doctor of physics mr paul benowitz

when cattle mutilations started popping up around new Mexico in the 70s we've talked about these before in the podcast. Here we go. Benowitz became convinced that they were the result of extraterrestrial intervention which is an idea that's become very popular since. It goes together like, you know, PB and JAM right now but it wasn't always obvious. With this in mind, he then

began picking up intercepted electronic signals near Dolce. This is a time too small to be receiving such signals, so he was trying to work out why. He thought to himself, if these aren't being directed to Dolce from another town, maybe they're coming from Dolce. Oh.

But where? This is just like a couple shops around. There's like one hotel. Right. There's 2,000 people. They're all Native Americans. Where are they coming from? Dude, maybe if they're coming from Americans. Where are they coming from?

Dude, maybe if they're coming from underground. I love it. I love it. You know I'm on board. You know, because I've done my research into ancient aliens and the hollow earth. So here we go. Let's do this. Let's do this.

Cappadocia, Turkey, the hidden cities. Do your research, folks. We've covered it all. Do your research, folks. Episodes one through seven, I think you'll find. Because that's about as extensive as our research is as well. And he thought to himself, you know, normally radio signals are going, you know, like across the earth. They're going from one city to another.

But if they're under the ground, where are they going? Straight up, dude. Into the sky, dude. To who, though? He started propagating the theory that not only did aliens create cattle mutilations, but they're still here, communicating with their planet right underneath our feet. Can I ask about these radio transmissions that he's picking up? Yes. I mean, was this just static?

Was this like, we're under the earth? Was it confirmation of alien existence? Send some food. Earth food sucks. We've been eating Doritos. We forgot to cook the cows. We just killed them. We're really hungry.

So does he eat any words, any alien languages he can pick up? I expect. I don't think he got that far what what i gather from mr benowitz is that your greatness and madness are next door neighbors you know he went into everything with this kind of slant of maybe it's aliens yeah so i think this was a bit like the way that we receive radio signals from outer space i don't know what they are i think it was the same thing it was like just unencoded raw bleeping like imagine morse codes right just noise like a message right yeah like it could be a message okay i don't think it was like just unencoded, raw bleeping, like imagine Morse code. Right. Just noise.

It seems like a message. Right. Yeah, like it could be a message. Okay. I don't think it was like talking in English. That would be too easy. That would be way too easy. Dude, this podcast would stop now.

And it does. All right, everyone. You picked up one signal saying, yeah, we're real. And then they hung up. And at this same point in history, a government geologist and structural engineer, Phil Schneider, is offering... Sorry, I just stuttered there because of how real this story is.

Sometimes it's so real, I just can't even speak. Okay, let me try that again. So at this point in history, a government geologist and structural engineer, Phil Schneider, has offered a government contract to work in Dulce, New Mexico. Oh, that's coincidental. The throne round.

Why does he need to go there? You said there's like 2,000 people there. Well, we'll get there. Schneider has worked on several government underground projects. So I guess the military build bases underground, things like that. He's worked on these before. You never really think about these things. of like think of area 51 this huge base and constantly i think about it constantly i see it when i close my eyes hell when i open my

eyes it's where i've been it's where i belong it's where i will where i was born yeah whenever you think of these bases and like someone built that like architects designed it and engineers built it yeah and and engineers built it. Yeah. And construction workers built it. Like people worked on these things. It's not like a great mystery. So this guy, Robert Schneider, he's like worked on government projects before.

So whenever he's offered a contract to come into Dolce, he doesn't ask any questions. He's happy to take the job. But things didn't go quite to plan. I'll take you back. It's late August 1979. Schneider's beginning work in Dolce to create an underground facility. That's all he knows.

Okay. So to create an underground facility, as Schneider educated me, not personally, this is online, you have to drill... I assure you I had no idea what was down there. I don't know what it was. Apparently, you have to start by drilling several holes in the ground,

and then you can drill between them, and then you can excavate the ground in between, and then you've kind of hollowed out a point of earth, and you can build inside that. I believe the first seven are warning holes to any possible alien species down there to be like, hey, we're coming, we're coming. Put in some drill sounds here.

We're coming, we're coming. And I don't know how many do, we're coming, we're coming, we're coming put in some drill sounds here we're coming we're coming and i don't know how many do we're coming we're coming we're coming and then if they haven't moved off by then that's on them if you drill straight to an alien skull that's on them sorry bro so they started drilling these these warning holes as you put it but something was wrong when they drilled into the earth they started hearing mechanical failure insert mechanical failure what was this here okay stop the drill and they pull it out and the drill is like broken it's like busted so this happened a couple times uh so once maybe you hit something unusual i guess you know there's also a field stuck in it right sorry i will not apologize for filling in the blanks.

The next time they drill, black soot and gasp erupt out of the ground. What the hell's down there? Schneider started to question things when he noticed that there were actually Green Beret commando stationed amongst the engineers. He thought something was kind of weird, actually. So the team decide together, commanders included, that they're going to send someone down and just see what's up.

I guess, you know what, you hit some natural gas buildup in the earth. You hit a pocket of it. Exactly. And in terms of the drill, you hit some sort of metal deposit. Right. What were you going to say? The field, right? We're done, dude. Okay.

So they decide they need to send someone down there. And obviously, Schneider's the man. So they fire up the basket with the little rope and the lamp and everything. He's not a kitten. Why would they put him in a little basket? Why would they put a kitten in the hole in the first place? I don't know. Is that where kittens go, dude?

He's not a canary. Yeah. There we go. That would have worked better. Cut out the kitten bit. Just keep the canary. There we go. That would have worked better. Cut out the kitten bit. Just keep the canary bit. So they lower him down the basket and headlamp into the darkness. so at this point we have a video testimony of what happened that day from mr philip schneider so the man himself and the man himself so uh we're going to play this for the audience and

we're going to listen to it and see what he has to say analyze analyze analyze professionals in this process i was lowered down the basket of one of these holes and about from me to this elderly woman here in the front was sitting a seven foot tall alien gray the stench was worse than the worst garbage can you can imagine uh the person was that or the entity was absolutely horrible. I didn't waste any time or reach for my pistol or that kind of engineer. I didn't have time to carry all the folder all of one of these big submachine guns and all the sea spray and the yellow fruit and all the outer perimeter and inner perimeter security people carried. I carried old Walter PPK pistol with a nine shot clip. You got a regular clothes on, plus you're in a almost like a spacesuit environment, and you're reaching for a

gun. It's not the easiest thing to do, and then to pop a clip in it and start shooting. And I killed two of them. Yes, they're mortal, and they do die. However, in the process, one of them did this. All I remember is that he just kind of waved his hand in front of his chest. And the next thing I know, this blue beam hit me and just literally opened me up like a fish. And burnt my fingers right off of me and it was some form of electrical force because the kind of like it being hit by a lightning bolt burned all my toenails off of me crispy crittered my left foot burnt the shoe right off of me all i remember is the smoking remains And I'm laying almost

I'm still conscious but In and out of Didn't remember much And there was a green beret That was right behind me That risked his life In fact he died But he risked his life

He shoved me back in the baths And hit the button And took me up And I wouldn't be alive talking to you today Working for him I'm forever indebted I have so many questions He lost his wife and took me up. I wouldn't be alive talking to you today at 4 and 3 a.m. I'm forever indebted. I have so many questions. He lost his wife.

66 Secret Service agents, Green Berets, Black Berets, crack troops lost their lives because the government, our United States government, lied, did not tell us anything about the alien threat.

There's a war underneath there, and I'm talking dead serious. It's been going on since that time. Since late August of 1979, our military, the Russian military, basically the militaries of the world, have been in constant conflict with the outer space alien the small gray the large gray the reptilians the whole thing there are 11 there are 11 distinct races of aliens two are benevolent one had to leave here in a hurry because their world is under attack on the surface i was so on board for so long. I was so close.

Some of you are familiar with that. I have a picture of one of the aliens that's been working for the United States Pentagon for the last 58 years. His name is Val Valiant Thor. Val Valiant? He basically hasn't changed. He lives for 490 years,

what he says his lifespan is. He's a human-looking type person. He has six fingers and six toes. What is this? He's got one oversized heart, one lung, giant lung. He's making it up now as he goes along. His blood vessels are bigger. He's got copper oxide for blood, similar to an octopus. He has a thinking capacity. If you were to measure it, it would be totally off the scale. It would be about a 1200 IQ.

He speaks a hundred languages fluently, alien as well as others. He's a remarkable person. I had a chance to meet him one time. Wow. So, Rory, you've just had the pleasure of listening to the testimony from Philip Schneider. Pretty convincing, wouldn't you say? just had the pleasure of listening to the testimony from Philip Schneider.

Pretty convincing, wouldn't you say? I have a lot of questions. Yes. I have a lot of questions. Question one. Let's start. He said the Green Beret that saved him died? No, he said 66 of the Green Berets died that day.

What? Yeah, 66 people died that day, Rory. That's the alien-human battle of Dulce, New Mexico. 66 people died that day, Roy. That's the alien-human battle of Dolce New Mexico. This is a very important event in the UFO community. He was kind of slapped to the face because I was sitting there laughing along with him as he said he took out his pistol and killed two aliens

before being blasted in the chest by a laser beam. He got his fingers blasted off. You saw it in the video. That's it. As soon as he raised his hand, he literally has fingers missing off of his left hand. Yeah, I would encourage you guys to look this up if you are interested. You can find this. This is Philip Schneider, Underground Alien Bases.

There's dozens of talks by Philip. We always talk about these cases and it always comes back to, is there proof? Is there hard evidence did they leave behind any dna any impacts on the environment they took this man's fingers absolutely he was covered in scars and uh and he had scars over his chest and he claims those were laser wounds from this blast from this alien missing fingers he lost his freaking toenails dude jesus okay so it's a lot of very specific information that he knows yeah he doesn't beat around the bush does he but it's also it also comes back to why is he lying about this why would he lie about this yeah what is he gaining from

this and he's not gaining anything i assume it's only damaging reputation damaging his band so schneider goes on to claim that this plant where the attack took place is part of a multi-story facility underneath the earth that houses humans human animal hybrids and aliens for experimentation okay he claims there's many bases like this around the earth known to governments and cover it up. If this is a place that's known run by the government almost like a little prison then why what did he just accidentally drill into one of like the jail cells? He was contracted to build an additional facility right to this but they were keeping them in the dark about what the purpose of this was or what was as you should and absolutely so in the aftermath of this alien battle an explanation schneider became a lecturer

on ufo contact toured the country speaking about this incident through his research he claimed that president eisenhower had struck a deal with the extraterrestrials in 1954, allowing them to experiment on humans here on Earth, hence the government's knowledge of this alien base. Ah, okay. I've heard stories of Eisenhower before being involved with extraterrestrial activities. Yeah, because he was kind of a clued-in guy, kind of like experimented with this. Yeah. I don't know if clued-in is the best way to describe his mental state.

Frustratingly, Schneider was unwilling to give up the entrance to the underground base, potentially because of the threat this would pose to his own life. He claimed to have avoided no less than 13 murder attempts from government forces because of what he knew. No. But he only survived for so long. In 1996, he was found dead in his home. Jesus. The authorities wrote it off as a suicide, he was found dead in his home. Jesus! The authorities wrote it

off as a suicide, but his wife didn't buy it. He was found strangled by a hose wrapped around his neck three times. Oh my god! It didn't add up. Schneider, as we saw in that video, was missing fingers, and he had limited motion in his shoulders. He had all sorts of issues from this alien attack. From the laser blast, of course! He had cancer,

osteoporosis, all of these issues. Jesus Christ! It was unlikely they could have achieved this himself by wrapping around his head not to mention as his wife pointed out he was a chemical expert owned a handgun so he had like many better ways to kill himself yeah than a garden with a freaking garden hose before he died he told his wife my death will be made i will never commit suicide yes he said my death will be made to look like a suicide holy shit are you serious yeah oh my god it's real this is insane did the blackhawk helicopters and no agents get to him would that validate the stories of an

underground base at dolce it seems far-fetched but Schneider isn't the only victim of this knowledge. In October last year, conspiracy theorist Max Spiers was found dead in an apartment in Poland where he had gone to deliver a speech on several topics, including the underground base at Dolce New Mexico. He was covered in a black liquid when he died that he had vomited out. Oh, God. Just days previously, he texted his mum to say, if anything happens to me, investigate. Imagine being a mother getting that text. Like, out of the blue.

Hey, Max, are you coming home for dinner tonight? I've got, like, a roast on. If anything happens, investigate. Investigate. That would be terrifying. I just want to, before we go any further into the podcast please if anything happens to me investigate i want to say that now on this podcast it goes out you live on the podcast thousands of people if i have apparently committed suicide it was not me

i've been hunted down they're trying to shut me up because i'm too woke they're trying to close me down if i cycle into a tree in a bmx incident investigate investigate do it do it all if i die in a hot dog eating contest investigate so max spires dies in these mysterious circumstances his girlfriend and mother believe that he was killed in a satanic ritual for knowing too much so these two men gave their all in telling the truth about dulce but physical evidence to be fair is thin on the ground a lead did emerge however when the united states department of agriculture released documents detailing ufo incidents on national grounds emails from within the department in albuquerque new mexico reveal that they were alerted to sightings of an alien base in tonto

national forest nearby interestingly former u.s air force intelligence officer george feiler also claims the existence of an alien base in tonto national forest he points to the many cases of missing people in the area he says people would just you would find cars empty with people's personal belongings everything lying just totally abandoned those people will have gone missing does this tie in to the fact that schneider thought that there were multiple bases around the world officer feiler also however believes that the same aliens helped the united states in the vietnam war but that's another tale for another podcast look we've talked we've done a whole podcast about the nazis getting help from

ancient aliens during the second world war is it that far of a of a stretch of the imagination what do you do you fight fire with fire fight lasers with lasers you get your own you get your own aliens that's right it was a it was an arms race and what's the greatest arms of all alien arms they're long they're gangly and they can blow lasers from their slightly oversized hearts apparently that's right six fingers big heart lovely guy big hot blood much like an octopus uh which is i, too. He says all these things like, they have the blood much like an octopus, oversized heart. I met the man once.

If you met the guy once, how does he know all these details? These little details. Well, I think, again, it was because his dad supposedly had contact with this guy. Right, okay. So we're looking at some sort of dynamic

similar to Indiana Jones and his father. You know, like old adventure. That's right. Young Indy finds all his notes and wants to continue on like hunting aliens and finding out all that's right. He set down the path for him. Yeah. And his dad's all like, look, Junior, there's aliens out there in this world and we've got to stop them. It's like, okay. No, he's not a he's not world, and we've got to stop them. And it's like, okay.

No, he's not a kid at that point. Okay, Dad. Sounds good. Yeah, it was exactly like that. Like I said, physical evidence is thin on the ground. But sometimes it's like, as you say, the human aspect of this. What do these guys have to lose? It turns out everything.

These guys died telling these these stories that's the ultimate price it really is because we've had people who get discredited they get fired they get publicly shamed and humiliated yeah um by us on this podcast i mean that's the second worst punishment of all is itunes like disgrace that's like I think we talked about it before that that is genuinely one of my biggest fears is to ever have an actual paranormal encounter

where I'm so convinced that it's real that I destroy my life trying to convince others that it happened the government's gonna shut you down for just mentioning it yeah it's a nightmare

because think about it you'd be like what is the god damn point my wife doesn't speak to me the kids are gone and the government's trying to kill me it's so even though no one believes me madness i know i mean it's exactly like investigate i'm just gonna keep saying that hashtag i'm gonna end all my tweets with hashtag investigate it's exactly like that that south park episode the the homeless one where

he's asking for change yes it's like everyone thinks they Park episode, the homeless one where he's asking for change. Yes. It's like everyone thinks they're so different to homeless people and then one day you genuinely need change and suddenly you're just any other homeless person. You're out there like making excuses being like, oh, like I forgot my wallet. Am I locked out of the office building? It's like, oh my God, now I'm one of them.

And it's the exact same thing. It's like you look down and you're missing three fingers. You're like, oh God. But I dug the warning holes. Oh investigate as you disintegrate into the floor so we've got we've got the facts we've got the fiction right we need to all fiction sorry excuse me what do you what do you make all right do i believe the government has done shady stuff in underground bases absolutely i think it's happened in today i think it's happened during the world war um to the extent of which i'm not entirely sure about investigate now when it comes to uh like aliens, I think he was suspiciously clued in to a lot of aspects of these alien mannerisms.

Yeah. To the point where he's almost... He's an alien. Right? You're getting that as well? Oh, they damaged my hand and now I only have three fingers. Oh, yeah. Or are the other two fingers on that hand fake? And they're all three fingers.

He blasts everyone that cried at once. Starts rubbing his heart. Investigate. You know, I've been in the game a long time. I've seen a lot of shit. A lot of unexplainable space junk. And hell, who am I to uh that aliens didn't visit the earth at some point this morning life i think this is out of all the the paranormal kind of sub genres

this is the one that i'm closest to being on the side of belief with because it it's far-fetched but plausible yes i don't think there are, like, ghost children walking the Earth. Yes. Because that's so far removed. I can believe in technology. I can believe in life on other planets. Yes. I can believe in scientific advancement and government experimentation

because it's happened, and we've seen it, and it's been declassified. So, do I think there are alien bases and laboratories used to experiment on humans under the earth possibly possibly i do possibly investigate what do you think you haven't given me your conclusion conclusion i mean this philip schneider guy he's he's quite problematic he's a very controversial figure even within the ufo community i think a lot of people think he's full of crap yeah because i got the idea he's community i think a lot of people think he's full of crap yeah because i got the idea he's he's trying to make it out like he's got all the answers yeah that in that community he's like the head honcho yeah everyone's like oh this guy was

attacked and he knows and he killed them and everything but a lot of it just sounds like it could be stuff that he made up yeah i mean i think as you say it just seems too sure about a lot of really specific oddly specific but you know you can be on board for i think as you say it just seems too sure about a lot of really specific oddly specific but you know you can be on board for i saw one i shot it my hand burnt off and then he's like there's 11 different species one of them had to leave because there was a battle on their home planet how does he know that yeah that's mad it's definitely fishy so i think was there an alien human war under under Dolce New Mexico? I feel like probably not.

I think we're both going no on that one. I'm a big believer in aliens. I think people are insane if they don't believe in aliens. I like that. I like that we're both on the same page because the probability is, it's yes. It's insane. People don't realize. It's almost more improbable that there isn't other life.

But was there a war underneath El Chino, Mexico? Hell no. Investigate. Investigate. Hashtag investigate. I like that. We've almost got like a little phrase now. Always remember, folks, investigate.

I'm also doing an Illuminati triangle. Sign with my hands. Just to keep Jay-Z happy. Yeah. Make sure you don't screw anyone over. Always. Well, if you guys have your own UFO tales, your own underground alien tales, if you built an underground government facility,

hell, if you're Philip Schneider himself, you're missing fingers and whatnot, please email us in instantly. Absolutely. At thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com. We're always watching that Gmail inbox, and we're going to talk about some of those stories coming up pretty soon.

Absolutely. Yeah, if you want to get in touch, as we said, send in an email. If you want to do it quick and dirty, we're both on Twitter. I'm at RoryHasPowers, and you're at KitGrier, G-R-I-E-R. Send them in.

If you have any recommendations of cases you want us to explore or your own horrible little mysteries that you've come across that's right and if you're enjoying the podcast as always the best way investigate

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