This Paranormal Life - #101 Utsuro-Bune: The Ancient Japanese UFO

Episode Date: February 20, 2019

Sometimes evidence of the paranormal turns up in the most unlikely places. In this week’s investigation we journey far from the present day for some of our most compelling evidence ever - in Edo per...iod Japan. Could the key to a paranormal encounter lie in a popular Japanese folk tale?Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did wasps come from another planet? If you say Bloody Mary three times into a mirror, does she have to stop what she's already doing to come and kill you? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life! Hey! Welcome back to the podcast, it is Tuesday once again. You are listening to This Paranormal Life. Today you are joined by myself, Mr. Kit Greer.
Starting point is 00:00:21 This guy, Mr. Roy Pars. Hello, hello. Both very esteemed professional paranormal investigators. Oh yeah.. This guy, Mr. Roy Powers. Hello, hello. Both very esteemed professional paranormal investigators. Oh yeah. Decades on the job and here we are in the golden years of our career phoning it in. Absolutely. People always ask me how professional I am. I sleep in a freaking tie. I shower in a tie. I'm always ready. That is all you're wearing though, which is deeply unprofessional. To show you I'm all about the business granted it's 6 feet long so it covers the important bits
Starting point is 00:00:50 but if it covers the important bits it's gonna need to be 10 feet long you catch my drift here? you catch my drift? you catch my drift here? I'm saying I have a hog I'm saying I have a hog and I'm a businessman is that the two things you aspire to be most? yeah
Starting point is 00:01:04 well with that said and done ladies and gentlemen we are not going to dilly dally as always like every episode we're just gonna dive right in and today's story takes us somewhere we just do not spend enough time on on this paranormal life that's right we're talking edo period japan wow that's right too many paranormal tales take place in places that we expect them to like in the midwest in the 90s someone sees something weird but they're too drunk to hold a camera still for long enough to get some evidence and way too few cases involve the era of the samurai the era of the geisha the shogun so thankfully we're going to correct that today and wind
Starting point is 00:01:42 back the clock all the way to 1803 Hitachi province. I love that it's going to be such a change of scenery. And you'll be like, so the young samurai Miyazaki said, well, I'm going to have a glass of sake. So we're still doing the redneck voices. Well, yeah. Miyazaki jumped into his pickup. I thought you said we were in 1800s Japan.
Starting point is 00:02:03 That's what they called a rickshaw back then. A pickup because he had to pick it up off the ground. Get it? It's February 22nd and two fishermen are doing whatever it is that fishermen do off the beaches of Harato no Hama. You'll notice that my pronunciation is superbly educated. I'm a very educated person. I've spent, well, actually not a lot of time in Japan. I actually did like an airport stopover. right i actually i'll come clean i tried to get into the country
Starting point is 00:02:30 they took one look at my passport my police record and actually just sent me right back so i was in japan for probably about 30 minutes it really wasn't a long time enough time however to master the japanese language back to front you tried to get into the country through airport security in a kimono with a katana. Yeah. I had actually shaved on the flight. I went into the bathroom, plugged my little electric razor into that thing and shaved my hair. Like Tokugawa era shogunate style. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Just like little ponytails. I think that's a red flag already because I don't think you're supposed to plug anything into those. And this thing was a doozy as well. This is like an industrial like this is what you shave a bear with in a circus do they do that how did you get that on the plane how did they let you leave the country with that you're in the the toilet of the airplane covered your face in shaving cream and you're just using the edge of the katana blade to shave your face the plane is shaking you're nicking yourself left of the katana blade to shave your face. The plane is shaking.
Starting point is 00:03:26 You're nicking yourself left, right, and center. There's blood everywhere. People on the outside of the bathroom stall are knocking on the door. Usually you're kind of listening out to hear if the hand dryer is going or maybe if the toilet's flushing. All they were hearing was... They were hearing throwing stars. A shuriken coming through the door just hearing
Starting point is 00:03:49 the samurai must have been bleeding a lot that was me it didn't work out but like i say i did spend just enough time there to um nail some pronunciation so i think i'm well set up for this story so i think the story is going to be gonkides. That's so wrong. That's right. February 22nd. It's a misty day. And the two fishermen are just shooting the shit, Edo period style,
Starting point is 00:04:12 while casting their lines into the waters. I guess one of them is gazing into the distance when they spot something on the horizon. Hey, what's bobbing around out there? They strain their eyes and just about make out in the mist that, yes, there is some kind of boat drifting in the water. Maybe someone's in trouble out there.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So the two men row out to this mysterious boat. But the closer they get, the less sure they are about what they're even looking at. About three meters high, around five meters meters wide it was pretty tiny as far as boats go the fishermen reported that the boat looked like its upper half was made of a red kind of wood but its lower half was made of some kind of metal everything about it was not japanese right off the bat this boat was circular and boats are not usually very circular. That checks out. Additionally, the top half was covered in window panels made of glass and crystal.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Especially unusual, as at this time, glass was definitely not a commonly used material in Japan. You had to be like real high society to have glassware. That escalated really quickly. It was like it wasn't in the Japanese style of architecture at all. Also, it had glass windows, a fuel tank, rockets strapped to the side, a gray in the dashboard waving. Worried that if anyone inside needed help, the men towed the boat back to shore. They tied it up and started rowing back to the beach. As they reached dry land, they peered in through the glass back to shore. They tied it up and started rowing back to the beach. As they reached dry land,
Starting point is 00:05:46 they peered in through the glass and crystal windows. Inside, the walls were lined with text in an unknown language they'd never seen before. And on the ground of this craft, they spotted what looked like a bed of some kind, some sheets, and beside that, there was a little container of, uh, looked like liquid water and pieces of some kind some sheets and beside that there was a little container of uh looked like liquid water and pieces of some kind of cake or bread some kind of food anyway you got a little
Starting point is 00:06:11 someone's living in this thing yeah someone's in there for the long haul it was then that the men saw something else a woman not just any woman the most beautiful woman they had ever seen whoa jackpot today every every edo period man is waiting for time a hot bride washes up on shore like a goddamn message in a bottle it's so true the amount of days they go out there and you know the there's a big tug on the old fishing rod they wheel out this giant huge bass and they're like just another fish just chuck it back in the water because they're just looking for that that dream wife that's what they're doing that's right you know they say like plenty of fish in the sea there's too many there's actually not that many girls in the sea yeah there's too many they're getting in the way of the good stuff, really.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Because if you're looking for anything other than fish, you're going to be hard pressed. Absolutely. She was about five foot tall. I mean, which is funny to be like the most beautiful woman we've ever seen. Four foot nine. Beard to her knees. Foot size, 12.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Jacked, angry, small. Actually, mostly an angry mythical dwarf creature face and claws of a little bear but voice of a large bear i hate to see her go but i love to watch her walk away the most beautiful person they'd ever seen five foot tall long red hair with white extensions that they thought were was either made of fur or some kind of fabric. Her pale pink features of her face were strikingly beautiful and she wore long flowing clothes made of unknown fabrics. She turned to the fishermen and tried to speak but it was a language they'd never heard before. She could understand them no better than they
Starting point is 00:08:03 could understand her. For the fishermen, almost the most intriguing thing was that amidst all this, she was holding a small box made of a weird, pale material that they didn't recognize. And although the men tried to ask her about it and gesture to it, she would not let them anywhere near this thing. Right. The story goes that the woman did not travel
Starting point is 00:08:23 beyond the beach in Hitachi province. Rather that the man basically tried to talk to her for a bit, put her boat back together and just sent her back on her way, drifting down the sea to wherever she planned on arriving. So put yourself in the shoes of these fishermen for just a second. What are you thinking right off the bat about this occurrence? This is mad. Well, to start, I don't think I would have towed the boat back to shore oh really or like before knowing exactly what was in the boat what was going on because i feel like that's like um that's like uh pirating 101 i know they're not fishermen but you know they're kind of like pirates if you're like out on the sea and you find like a little bit of like a ghost ship or like an
Starting point is 00:09:03 abandoned ship what you do is you know you you go inside and you pillage it see what you can get see what the situation is you don't hook onto it and like drag it back to your harbor and then be like let's see what's inside because you could have a straight up trojan fish on your hands very true yeah you could god knows what's inside that thing luckily it was just a tiny little beautiful woman yeah that's really that's like the one in a million time that's gonna happen by the way absolutely every other time they take it back and like a hundred thousand rival ido japan samurai are inside that little ship waiting to be brought inside the walls and then they all burst out of it yeah that's the reason customs and immigration exists in airports is because unfortunately 99 of the
Starting point is 00:09:52 time it's like a raccoon with norovirus or something it's like okay please this has to stay the border cannot come in so where this paranormal tale differs from many others is that we have multiple written records documenting this story. There are actually three books written in the 19th century that tell this story. The Toen Shosetsu, or Tales from the Rabbit Garden, written in 1825. The Diary and Stories of Castaways, from 1835. And the Ume no Chiri, or Dust of the apricot written in 1844 these all sound very irrelevant what was about a rabbit garden apricot dust i was starting to think google translate did me a
Starting point is 00:10:35 disservice guys i'm gonna have to go back to the drawing board in this one maybe my 30 mins at the japanese border didn't teach me enough did i mention that the woman turned out to be a giant apricot it's actually the twist at the end fishermen were hungry as shit they were delirious and eating for days they opened up a boat and all they saw was a giant apricot i thought a borderline peach was a victoria's secret model the mind sees what it wants it's giant delicious apricot and whilst there are some differences between these stories that are just a few decades apart they all hit the same main points of the story and this rory is the point in the episode where i am about to blow your mind and blow this case wide open because you see, these books have illustrations
Starting point is 00:11:26 of what the fishermen described. Wow, okay, cool. Because I was going to say, I mean, it's a weird story so far. I wouldn't necessarily go as far as paranormal. It's just a weird boat with a small woman. So far. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Wait till you feast your eyes on these. Oh, wow. All right, guys. This is a lot... The boat is a lot weirder than i'm gonna stop calling it a boat right off the bat a boat is a giant red herring yeah this is a ufo this is a dome an alien dome whenever i started researching this i was very alarmed to see the first image i have to say this is insane uh again um my my uh japanese reading is a little rusty uh but again it looks like um you know they've even labeled certain parts of the ship oh i thought she was holding i thought the woman was holding a giant block of cheese but i presume that is the box clutching on
Starting point is 00:12:24 to yeah yeah i was so focused on the ufo i actually forgot about the woman you're like yeah i didn't even look at the woman that is an apricot that is an absolute apricot the boat's an apricot the woman's a peach and the goddamn box is a nectarine filled with dust i gotta paint the picture for the listeners here um i'll post these photos on patreon as well but these images are very like what you would expect if you went to the british museum or a japanese national museum and looked at edo period images the style of the uh woman yes depicted the style of writing even just the paper itself that is written on it is all like 200 years old and then right beside that is a ufo yeah it's really strange as you said this is like
Starting point is 00:13:12 going to the british museum going to the japanese section binge watching a series of the x files right holding your breath until you're just about to pass out and then looking up at the transcripts and i think this is what you would see right that's a pretty good explanation like these mad scribbles ufo drawings a woman clutching a box looks like a brick of cheese there's um but these are illustrations from 1825 depicting a story from 1803. So suddenly the picture of this story has become a lot clearer. Are we looking at an Edo period description of a close encounter of the third kind? I'll say that not so annoying. Are we looking at an Edo period description of a close encounter of the third kind?
Starting point is 00:14:01 I was so ready for you to redo it, but like twice as annoying. Are we looking at any depictions like oh my god lower your voice of the third kind oh my god sorry let me try that again less annoying jesus you know this is bad right and out of all the crazy details of this story so far one of the most valuable is that the fishermen saw the symbols of an unknown language through the windows of this craft so what do you make of the handful of symbols here that are depicted on more than one of these books what kit is referring to is um four symbols drawn down
Starting point is 00:14:47 vertically um that are obviously trying to uh send some sort of message i'm going to try and decipher them right now cool just like uh it's like a malcolm gladwell's blink it's like we don't even need to have to study this let's just trust the human mind just snap judgment let's do it let's do it uh first symbol it looks like a sun and a mountaintop right i think that means um holidays like a sunny location like oh like oh like sunbathing on the beach i think they're going on holiday potentially yeah yeah yeah so holiday right next one looks like a weird little cactus thing coming out of the ground so holiday cactus yeah uh the next one is two balls joined at the ends of an x so i think that's like uh like some sort of um some sort of like uh you said you're gonna do
Starting point is 00:15:39 like a snap judgment just like a really quick just gonna just throw it right out there it was snappy so holiday, holiday, cactus. And then this one. We got this third one. This third one coming in here. And it looks a lot like we got those two balls. And we got the X. Yeah, you're describing it again.
Starting point is 00:15:53 We're stalling. It is. It is. Your tongue is just spinning around in circles. This is really hard. If I had to say what it is. Oh, I would. So, think about what we've got so far. I mean, my God. Yeah you know, so think about what we've got so far.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I mean, my God. Yeah, everyone knows. Think about what we've got. Mountain. Mountain and the sun. Cactus. Found in the desert. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Comes from the Latin to cac. Definitely doesn't. Some people drink the water harnessed inside. Could that be some relevance to this next symbol? How about I talk about the next one and then we'll just like it'll give you a little more time to talk about the next one okay i think i'm gonna get it i think i was just about to get it and okay no well you f***ed it now because my train of thought is all is gone really i just don't know what the no i don't know i'll give you as much time as you want
Starting point is 00:16:39 if you just had it i feel like you can get it again cool cool all right so what was it was cactus right the first one no that was second that was the second one we're on the third one um from the latin cac to cac i'm sorry i'm getting emotional here but no it's just not stop saying it because it's not true right you're just stalling and the third the third symbol that's the two balls right and the and the line, don't stress about it. I think. This isn't live. Sorry. Look, people are going to take this shit as gospel, alright? So I need to nail this. Probably won't.
Starting point is 00:17:12 The third one obviously means skip rope or handcuffs. Possibly handcuffs. Skip cuffs, we'll say. Fine. Or cuff hop., whichever you prefer. None of them make sense, so let's just stick with one and move on.
Starting point is 00:17:30 All right, we'll do... Skip cuffs. Fine. Skip cuffs. And then we have the first symbol, which is a mountain, and the sun again. But now there's two suns. Wow. So some sort of space holiday on Mars or something, or some planet where there's two moons.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And how do you think skip cuff fits into that picture? Skip cuff is obviously some sort of alien recreational activity that I don't know what the shit it means. This babe was obviously on her way to Earth for an intergalactic skip cuff tournament. Where you have to use a jump rope but handcuffed to presumably a cactus. I mean, am I crazy to be reading that into these symbols? Sorry, let me say that in a less annoying voice. Am I crazy? So much more annoying.
Starting point is 00:18:15 To be reading it in that voice. So I think what this, if this was the symbol that was inside the ship, I think that this woman right was going on holiday right um from another planet she's come down to go on holiday thought she was going to land in the desert where the cactus are latin for to cack to enjoy some skip cuff yeah then she has realized i'm not at the right planet because i wanted the one that had two moons um so she's drawn that at the end there and i think that really sums it up well that was just illuminating we've really broken you ground
Starting point is 00:18:54 needless to say no japanese academic researchers in the last hundred years have thought of skip cuff skip cuff holiday cool we're doing conclusions now is that we good well some ufo investigators have put forward a very exciting theory about these symbols in 1980 in england there was a ufo event known as the rendlesham forest incident sometimes called britain's roswell oh and this is kind of an aside. I think we should definitely cover this in a different episode. We've had a bunch of requests for it. We just have not got around to it.
Starting point is 00:19:30 But I bring it up because symbols were found at the site of the Rendlesham Forest incident too. And they have a lot in common with the symbols from this Japanese craft in 1803. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah. What Kit is referring to is unfortunately not skip cuff i don't think that uh that game lasted the um didn't make it to england made it all across the f***ing galaxy yeah and then didn't get from japan to england so the the symbol he's referring to is the mountain with two suns. Yeah. That is, we're seeing a very similar symbol in this case as well. And there's too many to get into,
Starting point is 00:20:13 but amateur investigators and professional investigators have tried to make links between this Japanese discovery in the 1800s, seemingly before all other accounts of UFOs, and the symbol seen at more modern UFO sight sightings such as rendlesham such as roswell so rory i have presented you a case today listen sometimes we present cases that are meticulously put together and i come in with my own preconceived notions about where i think this is going this is a goddamn scattergun episode yeah i've presented a case that's over 200 years old from Edo period Japan. And it seems to, in some way, mirror some of the most beloved cases of the 21st goddamn century. How do we go about picking apart what is truly paranormal here and what isn't?
Starting point is 00:20:57 It's an interesting case. And thank you for bringing this to my attention, Kit. I've learned a lot today. But put this in my like, put like my ted talk a voice effect when i'm like talking to a whole group of people of course of course yeah i've learned a lot today i think we all have i think a wise man once said that math is the universal language of the universe yeah the universal language of the universe that's. The universal language of the universe. That's really smart, actually. And I think today we've learned that that is a lie. That is a goddamn lie. Shapes
Starting point is 00:21:34 are the universal language of the universe, not math. If I meet an alien and I tell him, uh, when I go, Hey, how's it going, bro? 1-0-2-6-5-1-8-5. You little piece of three. I'm calling them out here. You little mother six and son of an eight. You're obviously not fluent in math, by the way. Also, those are very endearing comments that I'm making. You think they're rude, but they're actually really,
Starting point is 00:22:03 they're nicest. They're nicest one. Hell no. I'm not going to talk to him in numbers. I need to be like, hey, what's up triangle? Circle, circle, mountain forest. Little cactus, little cactus in your, in your freaking skip cuffs.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Am I having a stroke? You do know that shapes are maths as well. What? What do you mean? You know, like, so you said like a triangle, for example. Yeah, sure. A triangle is defined by... Bing bang boom. A certain surface area defined by having a number of angles,
Starting point is 00:22:37 like specific angles of incidence. What's a shape? It's a shape, though. It's not a number. Sure, but you define it through maths like that's why they exist it's because it doesn't make any sense does it hey let me count to 10 one two triangle square circle yeah i don't think so man nice try though any other questions any other questions from the audience the stage manager comes up i am so sorry we do not know who this man is you're like you for a square triangle goddamn triangle goddamn piece of three i'll kill you anyway are there any other questions
Starting point is 00:23:12 from the audience a thousand hands raise up shit i've been right barry thank you good night like you're on stage you have no idea how close to the truth you are triangle three two one god damn triangle square there's like a cia agent with a sniper he's like i got a clear shot sir will i take him out he's like no wait to see what he has to say he's either a genius or an idiot like two seconds later i'm just like what will the square circle it's like it's fine put down your guns he's just mad he almost had the recipe for immortality but he said three instead of triangle that's the recipe for poison let him go so i guess what i'm saying is uh i'm learning a lot about uh these theories that there is some sort of language being spoken by these extraterrestrials. Because when we looked at the case of the Ebon.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Yeah. Where they go to the planet. Is the planet called Ebon? Oh, the Ebons from Xenoblade. I live on planet Serpo, of course. Asshat. We, you f***ing three. That planet, even when we looked at that story.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Why swear and then say three? There's no consistency. You're just saying half your words as shapes. That was one of the TED talk questions someone get this little nerd out of here even that planet that is inhabited by extraterrestrials right we we um heard that it was more of like a hub for like loads of different um different species visiting and they all none of them spoke in like a unified language right you know like the humans didn't understand the ebens maybe the ebens didn't understand some of these other dudes who were like coming and
Starting point is 00:25:09 visiting so i think if we're gonna take it as fact that some of these um ufo encounters have been using the same symbols then that possibly means we're dealing with the same species maybe more so than multiple races of aliens have been visiting the earth but rather we've been visited by the same beautiful bastards for over 200 years yeah and you know what that actually makes a bit more sense yeah because you know the universe is freaking massive and maybe these aliens who are visiting with all these symbols maybe they're literally like a billion light years away but they're the only ones that have been visiting us because the next furthest species is like a hundred billion light years away like it could be
Starting point is 00:26:00 it's so vast that maybe the only reason that there's some sort of correlation is because there's only one species intelligent enough within our reach. Definitely the most exciting theory about what's happening here is that extraterrestrials came to Earth in the 1800s, washed up on the shores of Hitachi, and have been coming ever since. Roswell, Rendlesham Forest Incident, and so on. Yeah. But there are other theoriesident. And so on. Yeah. But there are other theories out there that we better talk about.
Starting point is 00:26:30 And some of them shed all over this case. And some of them are different, like, parallel paranormal theories. So, one thing that kind of tripped people up about this story is the fact that the fishermen immediately send this woman away as soon as she arrives. They didn't seem to try and keep her there or try and show her to anyone else. Right. They just kind of sent her on her way and presumably told people about the incident. But we do have to remember that this story took place during the period of Sakoku or foreign isolation policy, where people were pretty much not allowed to enter Japan from the mid 1600s through to the mid 1800s it only ended about 50 years after this story so the men realistically might have sent her away knowing that they or
Starting point is 00:27:12 her would get in trouble if she was found out right the trouble with this also means that fishermen off the coast of hitachi weren't exactly the most worldly gentlemen right you had to be living in nagasaki or hokkaido to have ever basically met um someone from another country and even then it was only going to be china or the netherlands or korea basically yeah so they really didn't have much contact with anyone else some people have made the argument what if just a british ship or any sort of other ship an american ship yeah washed up on the shore and it was just a white person would they have thought they were some completely foreign entity yeah because i mean like that would appear otherworldly yeah if you've never seen anything like that in your life before and we do know that in the 1800s other parts of the world in the west
Starting point is 00:28:03 did have like these medals and glasses and everything that just weren't common in japan yeah but the possibility also exists that maybe this being this woman didn't come from america or britain or china or korea and didn't come from outer space either but maybe came from somewhere else they did say that she turned up in a uso unidentified submerged object i like a boat of some description turned up with red hair very beautiful human-like but speaking an unknown distant language writing in symbols that no one had ever seen before, with futuristic technology that the locals in Japan had no idea of. Should we say it on three?
Starting point is 00:28:50 We're thinking the same thing. I think we are, brother. Me and you, we've been in this business for decades. Our brains are in simpatico. All right, we'll do it on go. You ready? Three, two, one. Mermaid.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Oh, not far. Did we, what did we say? Mermaids are real or not? Yeah. Atlantis. Oh, not far. Did we say mermaids were real or not? Yeah, Atlantis was real. Mermaids, not real. Interesting that you went for mermaids then. New evidence has come to light, evidently. I mean, geographically, we're a bit askew, right? A little bit, but she was drifting.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Didn't know where she was. There's a ton of possibilities here. I think it's about time. Like every episode, we have to decide whether it is truly paranormal or not. Is this a ship coming from Russia? It's just a human
Starting point is 00:29:32 they've never seen before. Is this a runaway from Atlantis? Is this an escape pod that came off an alien craft from Zeta Reticuli and crashed onto Earth? So many options. What are you saying?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Well, I think it's safe to be a little skeptical because um we're dealing with fishermen here uh we have the the actual phrase a fisherman's tale uh right like this is a profession of men and women who are known to exaggerate stories to the point where there's a whole phrase about it yeah um you know obviously if a fisherman almost catches a big fish they go home to the pub that night and they're like a literal whale on the line yeah and i couldn't bag that sucker it was like the moby dick of japanese serpents yeah you know that's what they're telling people and in reality it was maybe like a 10 foot a big old 10 foot fish um so now we're dealing with this as we said like possibly um a someone from like russia or europe or one of these countries um that they have uh encountered and again that fisherman style storytelling uh exaggerates the details and
Starting point is 00:30:47 blows this into a way bigger thing than it is the only thing is the drawings we've really got to come back to those things i feel like i'd be doing a disservice if i didn't go back to the drawings because it's just a ufo it's a straight up ufo everything about it yeah like the paneling like like that it's a children's drawing of a ufo that's there is a solar panel there's a little circular hatch to look out of you should have never called it a boat in a million years never a boat that's the only thing that's throwing me because it even in the illustrations it's pretty consistent this story hinges on one thing if we take the fishermen's word for it if this is true if they retold this as accurately as the books reproduced it throughout
Starting point is 00:31:32 the 1800s then we have a paranormal case on our hands there's just nothing else for it nothing about it makes sense the craft is evidently not from that time period or nationality however like i said it hinges on whether these fishermen are telling the truth one fact that disturbs me that messes me up with this story is that this is a really popular story in japan academics have taken the time to look into it and they they have minor issues with the story such such as supposedly the name of the place where this takes place doesn't exist. We don't know if that means it was lost to history. You know, the names of all these provinces have changed since that time. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:13 The story itself, the woman with the box, seems to mirror some other Japanese folk tales. The kind of a similar ilk of maybe like a princess washes up on a shore and she has a precious item. of a similar ilk of maybe like a princess washes up on a shore and she has a precious item these stories throughout history that seemed a little too close for comfort and made academics think could this be another kind of myth and it's just been weirdly reproduced as fact throughout time but i will say the pictures of the craft those are pretty convincing and even further again the fact that those symbols reproduced why would someone with a mythical encounter with a mythical princess from a far off land why would they make up a symbol symbolic language yeah to print in a book so specific and weird maybe when we investigate
Starting point is 00:32:59 the rendlesham forest incident we can look a little further into these symbols and try and work out is it likely that these are coming from the same source the same goddamn star system absolutely but until then i don't think we got enough to say that this happened the way unfortunately not it's a no this week it's double no this week damn it hey i'm gonna say it i hope this is like the first one in this paranormal life history that i can come back to and reverse my no into a yes i would love that to happen for new evidence to come forth exactly let's try and make that happen thank you to the beautiful listener that sent in that suggestion um i think you're the first person in this paranormal life history to not even attach a name or any information other
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Starting point is 00:34:25 Banned him. Because you don't make friends in a secret society. You make brothers and sisters. Naive piece of three. You actually banned your own mother from the group. That was pretty rude. I think she literally signed up. She just wanted to send a little sweet message.
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Starting point is 00:35:46 Thank you to Abigail Wood. Abigail Wood, you are a beautiful forest of support. You are a mighty oak that stands and we build a treehouse on you. May the blades of deforestation never touch your path abigail may the californian forest fires never raise your part of the woods thank you for your support thank you also to chrissy klebaka chrissy klebaka smokes tobacco that's right i think in high school uh they were called chrissy the sissy um so took up smoking pretty hardcore to try and um look a little edgier look a little cooler i gotta say i'm digging it
Starting point is 00:36:32 because you know what's the coolest thing in the world putting your life at risk i think that's why like the coolest guys in the world are like firefighters astronauts um those guys who do parkour on the top of really tall buildings yeah um seedy guys in basements playing russian roulette like those are the most badass guys in the world bullfighters did i say bullfighters already now imagine you were a bullfighter but also you smoked like chrissy like a goddamn chimney. Right. You are automatically the coolest person in the entire room. Because smoking's kind of going out of fashion, but we need to stop that.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Because it's actually... I'm not going any further with this. Thank you also to Katya Caulfield. Thanks for the support, kitty Katya. Meow. Don't get too close to this kitten, because she's got claws. I learned that the hard way when I tried to say thanks.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And she freaking scratched my face. You look like Scar from Lion King. It was deep, man. It was a real deep cut. Was it really a kitty cat or was it a mountain lion? It was a grown woman. Okay. It was a grown woman who I startled.
Starting point is 00:37:42 With a knife. Thank you for the support. I'm sorry i spooked you katya this kitty cat yeah it's got a machete got blades thank you also to bronwyn juke don't ever try and best bronwyn at anything all right because bronwyn gonwyn it's right there in the name it's gonna happen braun win gone win chess sports um uh checkers uh snakes and ladders so board games mostly sports mostly board games actually very few sports uh braun win gone lose it's that's most of the physical activities but when is when your brain's involved braun win is kind of a Groot-style character. Can only really say Bronwyn or Bron-lose.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah, yeah. That's really all he's got in his vocabulary, which is weird because he's really smart at a lot of these games. But I don't really know what else is going on in the old noodle. But thank you so much there, Bronwyn. I hope you gon' win for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Thank you also to Finn Butler. You might think from a name like Finn Butler that this person has exceptional manners. Right. The service of an angel, looks after his guests. But I'm actually far from the truth. One of the rudest people I've ever had the service of meeting. Oh, yeah. Big time.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I mean, like the first time I met him, I was like, oh, Finn Butler. Two scrambled eggs, please. And he had the gall to slap me. He's actually a taekwondo black belt as well. Yeah. So he didn't take too kindly to the old chop chop. Which was weird because his second name is Butler. So I was like, you know, make my bed, sir. And he roundhoused me.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yeah. Which is kind of rude. A little mean. Not what I would expect from a butler. Not at all. He did wear a tuxedo, though. Yeah, exceptionally well-dressed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:38 You know, don't judge a book by its cover, I guess. Thanks, Finn. Don't judge Finn by the butler. That's what I say. Thank you also to Manny Villalba. Manny in the Thanks, Finn. John Judge Finn by The Butler. That's what I say. Thank you also to Manny Villalba. Manny in the bank, son. Thank you, Manny, for the money. We appreciate your
Starting point is 00:39:52 support immensely. It means the world to us because we need as much money as possible. The commune is an expensive proposition. Many banks have shunned us because we've been asking for too much money. So the more money we get They say the more money
Starting point is 00:40:09 More problems More money more problems And that hasn't been the case A lot of our problems are due to Not having enough money Now we've got all the money We want in the world Because we've got Manny Villalba on our side
Starting point is 00:40:24 So thank you. Thank you also to Richard Luke Dix. Richard Luke got rich by fluke. That's right. He stumbled out of bed one day and happened upon a bag full of cash. He became rich overnight. And yes, the mob were on his tail, but he was pretty evasive, moved to the Caribbean, and he's been living large ever since
Starting point is 00:40:45 he's got two freaking first names that's how elusive he is they're like looking for a guy named richard's i want it my name is luke now so no well let us know if you find him that's better than having 14 passports two first names first names that's confusing as hell he's a very much a matt matt damon born of himself thanks for taking time out of your busy crime schedule to help us out richard luke and thank you lastly but not leastly to ryan seal it's ryan seal himself washed up on the harbor throwing any coins and salvage that he's found from the bottom of the ocean just chucking it i mean half of it's garbage but we don't have the balls to tell him it's like a lobster cage
Starting point is 00:41:30 it's bottle caps but god he's just doing it with so much heart whenever he first washed up like those japanese peasants we peered into his little craft to see if it was some sort of beautiful maiden with tails from a long forgotten galaxy but it was ryan or or we've loved the little lovable sea scamp ever since so thank you so much for your support uh keep the bottle caps coming brother or seal uh i wonder if there's any way to work out how many people pull their pledges after you've got their shout out it was a funny thing i had to do at the live show which was just like i would introduce myself to someone and they'd be like oh my name is x and i would remember so specifically just being like oh michael smith you little piece of shit just a flashback to me calling them out of the podcast so uh i do apologize if we offended
Starting point is 00:42:27 any of you thank you for your support it means the world to us whether you are a human whether you are a seal whether you are avoiding the mob or whether your name is wood uh thank you so much for all of your support it means the world to us And that just about wraps it up for this week's episode. We will see you on Tuesday for a brand new paranormal tale. See you later, folks. Ciao.

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