This Paranormal Life - #108 Sleep Paralysis: The Portal to Another Dimension?

Episode Date: April 16, 2019

Half of all humans will experience sleep paralysis in their lifetime. And it's not a modern phenomenon! it's a condition that has stumped science for thousands of years. But when your paralysed dreams... are visited by demons, aliens, and cryptids, you have to wonder... is there something truly paranormal happening?Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We know that humans evolved from monkeys, but what are monkeys evolved from? The world did not end in 2012 as predicted, or is the apocalypse just happening very, very slowly? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life! Hey, welcome back to the podcast. You are listening to This Paranormal Life, the podcast where every week we dissect a different paranormal tail case or claim or beast and get to the bottom of whether it happens to be truly paranormal or not. As always, you are joined by your two favorite paranormal investigators in the world, myself, Kit Greer, and this guy across from me, Mr. Rory Powers.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Welcome, world of paranormal investigators. That's right. Every episode, we have a different paranormal case. And today, being no exception, we have quite a big one that I've been meaning to get to for a long time. A big one with a big foot, would you say? I think that was episode one. Back to number one, baby. It's called a callback. There is new evidence, guys, and you are not going to believe it.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Turns out this guy, there was really a misnomer his feet are not that big they are tiny but we have managed to locate his social security number we tracked him down his social security he's a citizen yeah he was a regular person oh my god the conclusion is very disappointing the rest of the visual description was correct seven foot five yeah but the feet were way off they're size three children tell me rory how much do you know about sleep paralysis i know surprisingly little about sleep paralysis given that it looks like you've never slept a day in your life how dare you sir i sleep like a the only experiences i've had with sleep paralysis are the fact that when i go to sleep i'm paralyzed
Starting point is 00:01:51 till i wake up paralyzed from the neck darn from the moment my head hits the pillow to the moment i wake up my eyes are looking around i'm watching tv uh i just can't move i don't know what it's like for you but it's like i time travel when i go to sleep really yeah it's like bam head down blink daytime i thought you were gonna say like bam head down cowboy times next night bam head down dinosaurs it's always terrifying and always backwards always backwards never forwards and it's a pretty good way to learn that the present day is actually a pretty good time to be alive it's pretty great a lot of time for naps which ironically throws me back into the horrible days it's a cruel cruel twisted fate i'm so tired that every nap propels me backwards into a nightmarish ancient civilization after a long
Starting point is 00:02:47 14-hour work day you know uh cooking and cleaning when you get home catching up with emails late at night you finally hit that pillow and bam medieval plague times just the most stressful situations well it's not going to get better from here into the episode uh personally i've never experienced sleep paralysis so i can't give my personal two cents on this but i was compelled to cover this story by the sheer number of requests from our listeners and it turns out that they aren't just interested in hearing about sleep paralysis but also in telling their own story oh okay so instead of bringing you dusty old facts from history books which granted have been cross-referenced and fact-checked and published in prestigious journals instead i'm
Starting point is 00:03:31 bringing you first-hand accounts borderline hearsay which is what this show is all about exactly i don't know if you know this folks but here's a little quote from rory powers history is old as shite it is irrelevant it. It is done. It's over. What's coming next? What's current? I want texts. I want tweets. I want emails about paranormal evidence.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And finally, this is what we're getting into. This is the opposite of the old phrase. Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it. Exactly. I don't even know what the history is. So how can I be doomed to repeat it? But you just study it. Just like open a book. No. See, if I don't even know what the history is. So how can I be doomed to repeat it? But you just study it, just like open a book. No, see, if I don't know what it is, I won't even know when I'm repeating it.
Starting point is 00:04:11 So everything's fresh to you. Exactly. Even when you're making the mistakes that your grandfather made before him. We're going to have a big fight in like 20 years. And I'm like, wow, our first world war so you didn't just not study you you somehow actively unlearned things throughout your life people are like wow we should really take notes on how this started so we never make this mistake again i slapped the notebook out of the guy's hand you man this war happened like five minutes ago that's old news i'm starting a new war you want to fight about it you're repeating this so i want to thank people for sending uh their experiences into us uh they might find it weird
Starting point is 00:04:52 if i give their full name um and then read out their email so in no particular order thanks to andrew steven nat celine and josh for sending stories in uh you know who you guys are so one listener writes hi r Rory and Kit. I'm very late to the game, but I've just listened to the Dear David part one and you asked if anyone had ever experienced sleep paralysis and I actually have. So brace yourselves because it's really, really weird.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Oh, wow. Okay. When I have sleep paralysis, it's like being awake and I notice someone tugging at my duvet. So I try to turn in the bed. That's usually when I notice I actually can't move. Then I am conscious that there is a person there and they have removed my blanket, pulled my legs towards them and are going to attack me. Horrible right? The only way
Starting point is 00:05:37 I can wake up is by screaming but because of the paralysis I can't actually scream. But I think I'm screaming in real life and the noise of it wakes me up. Oh no. My flatmates must be thinking what the f*** is happening at this time. Basically, even though I don't see much, I seem to fully understand the situation and what is about to happen when I have sleep paralysis. There are some recurring ones as well as others. Recently though, I had one about Pennywise. And again, i had my back to him but he grabbed my face and turned me towards him and then said something i don't remember what then kissed me on the lips whoa that was terrifying because i hadn't even seen the new it yet and it was the new it version
Starting point is 00:06:19 of pennywise okay i like the idea of it being the reason you know it's the new Pennywise is because it's in like HD, like Saran San. Compared to the old, yeah, exactly. Wow, how weird. You're dreaming about a fear you don't even have yet. It's so futuristic. I love it. It's pretty terrifying though to think that you could just watch like even a movie trailer
Starting point is 00:06:43 and then the demon that's in that trailer is gonna start smooching you the following night so even though this is pretty disturbing this is a pretty classic example of sleep paralysis we've got all the classic effects you're unable to move you try to scream and yell for help except nothing comes out and something absolutely terrifying something demonic is trying to get you attack you or kill you but the specific details of every story is what makes them unique people see a ton of different things during sleep paralysis here's another one that our listeners have sent to us hello lads i have a short story for you i don't expect you to mention this in the podcast but i think you might get a kick out of it needless to to say, it's all true. For like two years, I had a recurring dream
Starting point is 00:07:26 that I was asleep in a really big, comfy bed. That's a pretty... It was a great start. That's a... Compared to your situation of hitting the pillow and then going to some sort of hellscape. Oh, yeah. Ideally, whenever you go to sleep,
Starting point is 00:07:42 you dream being in an even comfier bed than you can afford. That's a very realistic dream. Like your best dreams are that your bed is slightly bigger than the one that you're currently in. I had the craziest dream last night where I could afford a Casper mattress. My dreams for the most part are like, I go to sleep in my incredibly expensive bed that thankfully the Patreon helped fund.
Starting point is 00:08:06 But then I, as soon as I fall asleep, I just dream that there's one spring just poking into my back, laughing at me. It can talk. The spring can talk. Oh, yeah. And he likes to rub it in. Trying to get to sleep, are you, Kit? Because there's nowhere else to go. It's an incredibly narrow bed.
Starting point is 00:08:22 There's nowhere else to go. F*** you, Kit. That was the whole dream just me asleep in the bed it was always in the same bed in the same room four poster bed white walls white curtains white bed sheets very ornately decorated i love it so his so his dream is that he's dreaming in a nut in a dreaming inside of his own dream. It's quite meta because if he was asleep in the dream, he wouldn't know what the bed was like.
Starting point is 00:08:52 So his dream must be just lying in bed. So his dream is just like a bird's eye view looking down at him sleeping in a stranger's room. That would scare me so much more like i will take the makeout sesh with pennywise a thousand times than over i would think i died i would genuinely think i'd been killed i would be at midnight putting on putting on chapstick to be ready for pennywise chapstick and a big red nose ready to go down. That's so scary.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I'm scared already. Is that the scary part? I think so. I haven't read the story far enough yet, but I think that's the worst of it over. Hopefully. I loved having this dream because when I woke up, I felt really relaxed.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I'd had a great night's sleep. As if I really had been asleep in this amazing bed. Anyway, one day I was having the dream, enjoying a nice old sleep, when suddenly the door to the room opened. This had never happened before in any previous dream. Oh no. And six or seven men walked in. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:09:59 The men all wore well-tailored suits, Rolex watches, polished shoes. You could tell that they were very wealthy. Most disturbingly of all, they were all wearing eyes-wide-shut-style occult masks. That's like the Tom Cruise movie, right? But yeah, I think it's that kind of masquerade-style mask. Right, like sexy occult meeting mask. Very sexy, very wealthy man. I i mean depending what you're into nothing bad is happening yet depending things could get very hot i guess like even if they're my best
Starting point is 00:10:34 friends i don't want six or seven men walking into my bedroom when i'm asleep knock on the door first please maybe they tried maybe you're so goddamn fast asleep even if it's my birthday and they're waking me up with a cake and presents just like knock wait just text me wait till i'm up i guess that's at least common courtesy sure why not they all gathered around the bed i was sleeping in and began to talk to me not the dream me asleep in the bed the real me. What? What do you mean? Wait for it. They looked up at the ceiling where my point of view of the dream was from. No. And spoke directly to me.
Starting point is 00:11:15 That is so scary. They said something along the lines of, We are the creators of this room. We allow people to come here while they dream you already know too much and now you must die oh we have to we have to stop this podcast because the more i learn about this i'm i'm going to dream about the danger this is some inception shit we're incepting ourselves with the idea of the occultist sexy scary dream this is some sort of mind std it's just it's gonna spread now we're putting this on a platform where thousands of people will download it they're gonna go to this weird
Starting point is 00:11:58 gangbang room and have these crazy dreams because that's where it was going we all we don't need to finish the dream. They took the masks off, they took their pants off, and things got real hot and heavy. Or does it? Then they proceeded to pull out a kind of face mask, the kind you'd use to administer oxygen in hospital. They revealed it was a gas that would make it look like I had overdosed on cocaine,
Starting point is 00:12:24 so no one would suspect foul play. They reached on, put the mask on Dream Me's face, and just as he was about to press the button to kill me, I woke up, sat bolt upright in my bed, shaking. I never had the bad dream again. Can you explain this? Was I targeted in my dreams by occultist billionaires? Was I sent to a parallel dimension in my sleep? I mean, I can explain this. That's truly terrifying. I don't know if I've ever returned to a dream location before. I don't think I ever have. I feel whenever I read these stories, I feel like a very normal dreamer. I feel whenever I read these stories, I feel like a very normal dreamer.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I mean, you've talked on this podcast about a dream where a cat stole your eyes. One time, one time, a cat tried to steal my eyeballs in a dream. One too many times. And I don't read anything into it, okay? I feel like my dreams get more normal the older I get. They're just about paying into your pension plan. Yeah, like, I don't know, buying a new moisturizing cream, like that sort of stuff. Yeah, putting on the dishwasher, unloading the dishwasher. I remember one of the most realistic dreams I ever had was when i was probably like 14 years
Starting point is 00:13:47 old or 13 years old right and this was at the peak of hillary duff's fame and i mean i i was obsessed with lizzie mcguire and the hillary duff movie that had just been released in cinemas right and i used to dream about meeting hillary duff i knew you all through this time i don't think you ever mentioned hillary duff once it was all through this time i don't think you ever mentioned hillary duff once it was a big part of my entire friendship and i remember one one dream meeting her and i was so convinced i met her and i was like oh let me get your your phone number so i can i can call you this was so bizarre we're gonna work because i was like i'll call you the next time that you're in Northern Ireland. In Port Stewart. So I panic so hard that I wake up in bed and run to my desk and search for a pen and paper.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And I've got them in my hands and I realize what's happened. And I'm like, I woke up halfway through her telling me the numbers, which I realized were not gonna be hillary dove's telephone numbers what was the logic there i don't know that she was telepathically communicating with you via dream she gave me half of her number and then she went this will make it look like you od'd on meth and then put a mask on my face how would she even contact you from presumably los angeles did she find your bibo profile and go i'm gonna sort of dream machine i'm not aware how these things work it was just a very realistic dream and i never got the full phone number i think i got like three digits so i don't know which were suspiciously a Vodafone number, which you probably didn't have. I just want to say, you know, statistically, there is a chance that Hilary Duff listens
Starting point is 00:15:30 to the podcast. I just want to say, Hilary, I'm sorry that I woke up before you could transmit the final digits. Get in touch. Hit me up on Twitter. You know, we can maybe rekindle this thing. See where it goes. So you're still obsessed with her?
Starting point is 00:15:43 I'm not still obsessed i just think it was a great show it could definitely make a comeback should i be involved are you an agent yes i should be involved okay so you're not obsessed with her you want to be famous i think i want a little bit of both but more than anything i just want the rest of the phone number okay that's like uh i feel like um magician type people like darren braun he's tried to guess lottery numbers before which is a pretty baller use of your telepathic powers yeah um but i think an underrated one would be guessing um hillary duff's phone number or indeed any sort of public figure if you're a magician just being like uh i
Starting point is 00:16:24 don't believe what you're doing. I think these are all just like street magician regular tricks. And he's like, watch me as I call Obama. Like 10 years down the line, I've got, you know, a couple little rugrats running around. It's one of their fourth birthdays. You know, kids are out in the backyard playing. All my friends and family are around. You know, I'm pushing pushing 39 40 at this point
Starting point is 00:16:46 i hire a magician for the party you know he's making hoops connect he's pulling rabbits out of hats and he it's like all right uh any suggestions from the audience what do you kids want to see hillary duff's phone number please roy the kids are crying they want to see out of balloon animals i want hillary duff's phone number now wife is standing right there this is very upsetting like sir i i is that a trick i don't know what this is i are you a wizard or not oh my god give me the number i've been waiting 25 years for this moment now move your dumbledore ass over to the telephone and call her i'm a clown not a magician i don't know what to tell you he like punches in
Starting point is 00:17:34 a bunch of random numbers and the phone rings he's like hillary yes holy shit i am good yeah i got her rory okay so i guess i take back what i've said i've had a couple weird dreams you've had a couple weird dreams i guess everyone has a few every now and again but i've definitely never had something where i've been the target of some kind of cabal of occult billionaires yeah that's that's weirdly specific i've also never had any of the actors in my dream break the fourth wall and look into my soul as the observer in the dream yeah i don't that's terrifying that was terrifying i've done a little bit of lucid dreaming before that's quite fun really yeah well you just like you know you're in a dream so you just start doing crazy stuff you ran matrix style to the nearest street telephone and dialed hillary duff's number as
Starting point is 00:18:27 fast as you could thousands of hillary duff's just filled the streets it's incredible it's like that scene in the matrix where the like the armory of weapons comes like flying in at 100 miles an hour except it's just a line of hillary duff yes right off the bat uh with the second email things are getting a little weirder the story seems to be way less like a nightmare and more like there's some kind of intentionality or reasoning behind the dream it's not just blind fear there's some orchestration but thankfully i received another email it started connecting some of the dots for me what do the different stories and details of sleep paralysis have in common with each other dear sensei greer and sensei powers appreciate it after listening to
Starting point is 00:19:15 yesterday's podcast and you mentioning sleep paralysis i thought i'd look into this for you it may be the link between nightmares alien alien abductions, and even other paranormal activity. I myself have had this happen a few times. I awoke to see three alien-like beings moving around my room, but I could not move. They didn't interact with me, but I felt terrified still. Then I suddenly woke up in the morning and everything was normal. Now I am no scientist, but my basic understanding is that it occurs during REM sleep, the part of sleep where you normally dream. What happens is that you wake up whilst your brain is still in the REM state, hence you cannot move your body as your brain is too busy, but you still have the visions which brings the dream world into reality.
Starting point is 00:20:03 There are legends going back as far as Norse mythology describing hags and demons visiting people in their sleep. And these stories could be the foundation for some alien abduction theories. That's pretty fascinating. I appreciate that even though he is not an egghead scientist, he has given us some of their information suggesting this could be basically two different brain states colliding like an unstoppable brain force meets an immovable
Starting point is 00:20:32 brain object it's like these two competing brain states are fighting for dominance and you're basically left paralyzed as if you're asleep um and having the visions of being deep in an REM state but still unable to move your body. Exactly. But yeah this listener is absolutely right. It turns out that sleep paralysis is no modern phenomenon. This is experienced all throughout history. There's poems and paintings and all sorts of things made about it. People have always used the language of their age to try and express what was happening to them and one of the most shocking things i realized once i was researching this is that just how crazily common it is this isn't a one in a million thing this isn't even a one in a hundred
Starting point is 00:21:17 thing estimates say this affects anywhere from eight percent of people to 50% of all humans at some point in their life. Wow. Which means statistically it'll be me or you. At some point? Yeah. Okay, Jesus. Christ alive. And as many as one in 20 experience it regularly, maybe for the rest of their lives. But because it is so damn common, we need to step in and help out, which is what this podcast is all about we're not just egghead scientists sitting around chatting we want to tell you what to do if your sleep gets paralyzed how to defend yourself against these ghouls and sexy billionaires and i'm going to do that by telling you a first-hand story i found on Reddit. This post is called Sleep Paralysis Haunting by an Asshole Ghost. Last summer was the first time I ever experienced sleep paralysis. In my culture, there's a belief that when that happens, it's because a ghost, spirit, or demon is holding you down. I was
Starting point is 00:22:20 pretty skeptical, so the first few times it happened to me i thought nothing of it but then the dreams started in particular they were nightmares so they weren't dreams at all there was a very distinct nightmare that i remember vividly i was sitting on a bench with an old woman that i didn't recognize which is a bad place to start right off the bat awful if the old lady is not your own grandmother get away what is she doing in your dreams what is she doing she get there what how is that thought even entered your brain i thought i explained this my dreams in fact my life it is a invite only policy i do not want six to seven masked men entering my bedroom i do not want to share a bench with a random old lady in my dream absolutely not pinch yourself it's a very private space that old lady is going to turn out to be that old lady
Starting point is 00:23:10 from the shining or some shit yeah the old horrible one yeah yeah because it's going to be like oh dearie i'm so glad that we're on this park bench together yeah cool just leave me alone i'm trying to eat my lunch oh i will don't worry Don't worry. I just, oh, you know, I feel a little dirty. I might just hop in this bath for a second. A bath? A bath just appears out of nowhere. Oh, give me one second. This is weird. I might leave, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Oh, I'm in the bath now. This is gross. Come over and give me a kiss. I didn't need to see that. Absolutely not. Come give me a kiss, dearie. No way. No way.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I'm walking the other way. Come give mommy a kiss. Again, either very terrifying or very sexy, depending on what you're into. No way. No way. I'm not going to be able to do that. Mommy, I'm pissed. Again, either very terrifying or very sexy, depending on what you're into. Depending on the person. Exactly. He actually starts jacking off for most of the rest of this post. Right there on the park bench.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I probably should have. The old lady actually ran away in horror. So, actually, he was the nightmare the nightmare turned out he had infiltrated some poor old woman's lucid dream inceptioned his way into some poor old woman's dreams i mean that's horrible you don't want to have a be haunted in your dreams followed constantly by a guy who just shows up and jacks it oh god because you dream about everything you're dreaming about sunsets and like rainbows and stuff you're not having a good time if you turn around and some guy dude's jacking it to a rainbow oh my god it's beautiful isn't it yes i stop please oh that beautiful yeah sitting next to an old woman i
Starting point is 00:24:36 didn't recognize when i turned to look behind me i saw a massive ancient church it was so old it was crumbling when i turned back the old lady asked whose grave is that confused i twisted to see the church thin as paper like a wall shrink down into a little grave about waist high it looked like a little lighthouse i told the lady no it's not a response oh there's a lot to take in so you, you know, he was not thinking on his feet. I'm impressed he came out with anything, really. Who's grave is that? No. No.
Starting point is 00:25:12 She said, it's yours. Then her face peeled off her body and started floating towards me. I screamed and suddenly woke up. My room has no windows. So when you turn off the light, it's pitch black. When I awoke, the darkness of my room was familiar, but I f***ing swear that I could see shapes and people moving in the darkness. My entire body felt like it weighed a thousand tons,
Starting point is 00:25:38 and I couldn't move no matter how much I tried to throw my body forward. I was screaming and screaming for my sister who was sleeping on the floor next to me, but nothing was coming out of my mouth, just empty air. Eventually, I somehow regained control of my limbs, rolled over and knocked the fuck out. The next morning, I asked my sister if she heard anything the night before. She's a fairly light sleeper, so she would have known if anything was wrong. She said no. The nightmares continued to spoil my nights, but soon I got tired of this shit. My grandma used to tell me that if I ever got held down, to yell at the ghost to basically f*** off and spit at it. On a day during finals week last year, I was particularly exhausted. For
Starting point is 00:26:18 weeks I'd been living off four hours a night of sleep. Between classes, I decided to take a 20 minute nap. I bunched up some blankets and laid down on them, leaving my closet light on to illuminate a bit of the room. Safety first. Of course. Then I fell asleep. Big mistake, pal. After 15 minutes, I awoke, saw my room lit by the dim closet light and once again I couldn't move. But I was so tired it was time for me to grow some balls. This ghost or whatever the had the audacity to spoil my sleep for the millionth time but I was done taking it shit. No one and I mean no one has the right to fuck with my sleep. Once this ghost decided to fuck with me it was World War 3. A really bitter anger surged in me and whispered if you bother me one more fucking time I'm gonna fucking find you and I'm gonna fucking kill you immediately. I could move my body once more and i was free of it ever since that spoiled
Starting point is 00:27:27 nap the nightmares stopped and so did the sleep paralysis the haunting was done because he stood up to his demons is that the the takeaway he says so yeah that ghosty goo or whatever it was i lost a lot of sleep because of it but if it ever decides to come back i'm gonna kick its ass so hard it's gonna start seeing me in its nightmares i guess i thought this was interesting because we like to think that the scientific explanation is that these sleep paralysis episodes are just nightmares gone awry but this guy seems to have a bit like the masked billionaires that broke through the fourth wall and communicated directly with our listener this guy has communicated with the demon in his dream right it stopped coming back he kind of like made it back down yeah you know raised his fist
Starting point is 00:28:13 yeah i don't i don't know if i would do that i don't think that's a good idea to aggravate the demon just to fight your demons oh uh do you prefer to run hide anything preferably maybe join them oh and start with other people's dreams because i don't know a lot about demons but i know they have horns that's one more thing that i don't have that's already uh advantage i'm pretty sure they either have claws or goat's legs like you've ever been kicked in the nuts by a goat like they'll explode i want to i want to team up with this guy i want to be like look buddy i know you're having a blast in my dreams but hey i'll i'll i'll be your assistant we can go wreck other people's dreams if just imagine my stupid little sister sleeping on the floor right now we could go scare the shit out of her we could
Starting point is 00:29:03 ruin her life honestly she's very impressionable the demon turns up it's like hello and you're like hey demon he's like why are you talking like that talking like what i just want to be like you guys you can't be like us because the other problem is one one problem that i have in my dreams sometimes is if i'm ever trying to fight someone i can't um punch i read i read it was a common thing that like your punch it's like you're underwater your punches are really weak or you just can't like connect you can't connect you can't give your full force. Yeah. So, I mean, I don't even think real life Rory could take on a demon, let alone underwater dream Rory. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I mean, that's it's like, is it Freddy Krueger in the horror movies? His whole thing is it's a bit like the Matrix. Whenever you're in that dream and he's running after you it's his rules unfortunately a bit like in the matrix it's neo's rules so as much as the agents can try to stop him he can just grab any weapon he wants he can bend space and time that's the problem with the dream is the demon is carte blanche access to your entire life's memories yeah which is like that's not a good situation to be in. I think what this last person has done is he's kind of flipped the script.
Starting point is 00:30:29 He's taken control of the dream and turned it on the demon. Yeah. So it's like, this is my dream, my brain. And it's almost like, you know, if this lucid dreaming and these horrible nightmares are coming from, like, a psychological standpoint, and these these horrible nightmares are coming from like a psychological standpoint what you've done is like mentally overcome the fear that was causing the dreams in the first place yeah so that's obviously why the demon's not coming back it's because you've you've managed to progress and make a breakthrough in um i don't know i guess facing your fears that is one way of looking at it rory but what if okay here we go this case in fact all the cases
Starting point is 00:31:06 we've talked about particularly the sexy billionaires this crossing over of brain states is not just some kind of happenstance that allows for a perfect storm of conditions leaving you rendered paralyzed and hallucinating in your own damn bed and piss? I never said piss! Piss scared of the demons haunting you that you can't punch? Or is this perfect merging of brain states actually unlocking some kind of dimensional portal, some kind of rip in the fabric of space-time that's allowing you to communicate, whether it's telepathically or by some other paranormal means, with entities that are not of this dimension when you go into that dream state when you lie in bed and experience the sleep paralysis
Starting point is 00:31:50 are you actually interacting with disembodied paranormal entities were those billionaires telepathically communicating were those demons real have they found some kind of Freddy Krueger backdoor into your psyche? So you're telling me that was really Hilary Duff? It's possible. The whole f***ing time? It's possible. And I missed it. In addition to being a Billboard Top 100 singer,
Starting point is 00:32:21 she is also an accomplished mind reader and communicator in between filming the popular kids tv show lizzie mcguire yeah she was spinning her top to make sure that this was in fact reality and this is further to something we haven't even talked about that much but want something that our listener pointed out that this ties in so much with the experiences of alien abductions, of lost time. People that say they've gone to sleep and in between going to sleep and waking up, they've been abducted and experimented on. Yeah, I guess that does make sense. But I don't know. I mean, also, there's missing time every night when you sleep.
Starting point is 00:33:06 That's part of the process. That's why you have to set an alarm because you're not exactly keeping track. Yeah, like, I don't want to draw a direct correlation between those two things because there's, like, after an alien abduction, you're probably a bit drowsy. Just like when you wake up in the morning. No, it was the alien anesthetic that they injected into my asshole like you probably i don't know maybe your alarm is going off similar to an alien abduction maybe slept maybe they didn't inject you you just got a bug bite i don't know yeah
Starting point is 00:33:38 that's a it's a big leap to take i think as always on this podcast we have to come down to conclusion whether this case is paranormal or not but rory it doesn't sound like you're too convinced one thing that is worth mentioning just because i find it very funny uh not necessarily relevant i swear there is a there's some country you can visit where you know when you're like visiting a country that you're not native to and you have to like take a bunch of medication or get injections to prepare yourself sure for visiting that country i swear there's one type of medical preparation that you have to do and it's like a pill and one of the side effects is nightmares wow yeah which i find so baffling that you can take a pill that can scientifically give a human nightmares like uh um just be wary of headaches uh some ill feelings sexual nightmares
Starting point is 00:34:36 why sexual why say it like i don't know maybe it was just sexual for me because i'm horny isn't that crazy maybe the like the country is just really bad and they're like oh it's a medicine the nightmares that's the medicine it's like you're gonna see some pretty awful things there so the easiest way to become immune to it is in dream form these nightmares are so bad i might do without the medication what's this to prevent oh 24-hour nightmares you don't want to go off that stuff i'd have to look up whatever you had to take that pill for but i think i've heard that kind of thing with like anti-malaria medication i think there's i think that's particular uh drugs for that that make you go pretty much insane yeah to the point where people like decide not to take it at all i was gonna say is there like a flip side drugs that would give you amazing dreams but i think that's
Starting point is 00:35:29 just drugs yeah that's probably why people take drugs i think yeah people take drugs to make their dreams in fact come true not just have nice dreams but make them reality and you do not want to get those mixed up you don't want to lock yourself in the room with, you know, the nice smooth jazz playing and a glass of wine. And, you know, you invite all your friends over. You know, you pop the pill, you swallow it down. You look at the table and you're like, I just took the nightmare one. Oh, boy. Everyone get out now.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Lock the doors. You're just taking off your clothes. It's about to get nuts in here. Put on a little occult mask. It's gonna look like I OD'd from cocaine, but it's just the nightmare pills. If we have to come down on a truly paranormal or not, on a yes or a no, what are you saying today? I'm not even sure what the question is are dreams real is sleep paralysis a paranormal phenomenon or is it just
Starting point is 00:36:32 a byproduct of dreams um i think i'm gonna go with byproduct of dreams wow for this week i'm not saying you're just gonna say flip off all our listeners like that? I think it would almost be ruder to them to say that it is paranormal. Yeah, you're cursed. You took a lifelong nightmare pill. I'm really glad this has never happened to me. And fingers crossed never will happen to me. Good God. I've definitely rolled the dice, though, by talking about it for an hour. hour this is what i'm afraid of it's now seeped into my subconscious all these
Starting point is 00:37:09 crazy dreams that i've never even experienced tonight i'm gonna freaking dream about me in a white room dreaming about me eating a nightmare pill and dreaming about it. And if Pennywise is there, won't be surprised. I think it's going to be a no from me this week. But hey, we know that we have listeners that have struggled at some point with sleep paralysis. Maybe you agree with me. Maybe you disagree with me. I think this is a great time to get in contact and let your voice be heard. Yeah, and say you're f***ing liars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And hey, in the next week week maybe we'll get sleep paralysis maybe we'll be on your side exactly but that does just about wrap it up for the case of sleep paralysis on this paranormal life hope you enjoyed it you could definitely send in your own thoughts of this paranormal life podcast at gmail.com uh as always you can let us know what you think on the socials that's twitter.com forward slash thisparalife, facebook.com forward slash thisparanormallife. And if you do follow us on social media, you might have noticed that we had some news.
Starting point is 00:38:15 We've been nominated for an award. Yeah, Best Entertainment Podcast at the British Podcast Awards. This is the second year in a row. Last year, we got nominated for Best Comedy. Which is a f***ing joke, to be honest. We've moved up in the world because we told them we're a paranormal podcast. Where's the paranormal nomination? Yeah, they said you would be the only ones in the category.
Starting point is 00:38:40 We said, great. Fantastic. No one else deserves to be in it. In fact, why is there any other category than paranormal frankly we thought the whole thing might have been a ploy by the mibs to get us in the same room together and then nuke it yeah um but we've done our research it seems to be a legit operation largely safe yeah um no but in all honesty it's it's amazing it's a really great honor to be nominated um it's quite cool because uh just like last year you know we're up against a lot of big
Starting point is 00:39:12 names and a lot of big podcasts a lot i'll say it right now a lot of corporate fat cats yeah a lot of them all of them in fact so yeah it's it's uh it's really sweet to be considered for the award. And nice to know that a little podcast like this can reach so many people and be so influential. So it's definitely fun because it feels like it was almost like pretty much as soon as we saw it, there was a few listeners were like tagging. They obviously follow the podcast awards
Starting point is 00:39:41 and they were tagging us and being like, boys, we did did it but that's what's uh so nice about it is that yeah in the face of kind of lots of bigger podcasts established um podcast networks celebrity podcasts that were famous comedians and everything that yeah it feels weird like we're coming up in two years and you guys have been with us the whole way i know so i guess thank you it's massively down to you that we're even still doing this thing so i'm so glad you've been enjoying it and it's so nice to know other people are enjoying it as well um so yeah thank you so much so i guess what we're trying to say is with the awards coming up there might be
Starting point is 00:40:19 some new listeners people tuning in trying to see you know what's up um do not welcome them into the commune um it's a closed door policy like we said the commune is extremely full uh so we we are very understaffed uh there is not enough food not enough water i am 100 sure they are sleeper cells yeah so the only food you should give them is a freaking nightmare pill and send them on their way a nightmare pill and send them to the pit and of course at the end of every episode we have to take the time to shout out those who have supported us on patreon and that's what we're gonna do right here and right now let's go a thank you to Joachim Kohlberg. You know, we only ever really hear about the Titanic hitting the iceberg.
Starting point is 00:41:08 But we don't hear about its sister ship. It hit the Kohlberg. What? That's right. They were so scared of ice from that point onward, they thought, where will ice never be? Down in a mine. In a mine, of course.
Starting point is 00:41:22 So they sent a ship to sail straight down a mine shaft. The thing exploded almost immediately. The guts were ripped from the bottom and it went straight into a coalberg. Coalberg. Terrifying stuff. I think this time was a little different because everyone died.
Starting point is 00:41:39 There were no survivors. There was no romantic love story. There wasn't even a string quartet playing as the ship went down. I mean, the string quartet were no survivors. There was no romantic love story. There wasn't even a string quartet playing as the ship went down. I mean, the string quartet were setting up. They were getting their instruments ready, but the whole thing exploded instantly. It was terrifying. People were like, had just waved them goodbye.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And it all went south, literally. I don't know if he was named in memory of those people. he was named in memory of those people i mean they they say that you know 90 of the iceberg is below the surface right well we're below the surface so then 100 of the kohlberg is below the surface but if there's one thing that hasn't been a complete disaster it's this podcast because of your support kohlberg thank you so much also thank you to brendan james defending brendan whatever you give this guy he will guard with his life wow even just like a peanut yeah he doesn't care like an old iphone charger yeah i like said i was like could you just hold on to this for a second and he went down on one knee yeah and produced a medieval long sword instead i swear
Starting point is 00:42:47 on this blade your highness i'm not a king i'm not a king sir but he's like an unsullied soldier from game of thrones exactly it doesn't matter it's whoever wields the whip he serves and we wield the whip oh we do you're not a king but you have a whip i have a whip. I like to crack it. I like to smack it. It makes me feel strong. It makes me feel powerful. You don't have to do it in the studio, bro. You don't have to do it in the studio. The whip is the old iPhone cable that I told him to protect. Oh, he wields the whip. No! So thanks, Brendan, for your generous support. Thank you also to Luke Rodriguez. That's right. Luke Rodriguez keeps us Rodriguez-ing.
Starting point is 00:43:30 This guy is just an international man of mystery. I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of those masked billionaires just running around the world Matt Damon style. Really hard to pin down, actually. Into dreams? He's one of the dream billionaires? I think so. He's like some kind of looper.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Spends his time jumping in and out of people's dreams. I don't know what he does for a day job. Where he lives. That is like the ultimate troll if a detective is hunting you down. And you just show up in his dreams at night and moon him with your bare ass. He wakes up all frustrated and you're gone, obviously. Yeah. Brilliant.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Brilliant, Luke. Thank you also to Derek Goods. It's actually good to get some support from Derek Goods because his evil twin, Derek Badds, has actually been draining the podcast financially for a few years as a hacker. I don't even know how he's managed to do it at all. He's living up to the name, though. Fair play to him. Yeah, he's just running with it.
Starting point is 00:44:30 But I guess that's the beauty of it, you know? Sibling rivalries and all that. That's what it is. You know, you guys balance it all out. I really hope their sister, Lisa Just Fine, comes along because I think she'd maybe enjoy the podcast, maybe not, but she wouldn't even,
Starting point is 00:44:47 she doesn't care. But thank you, Derek. I hope that you feel that we can produce the goods for Derek. Thank you also to Pepe Lestrange. Pepe Lestrange, rumored to be deranged. Born and raised in a drain. Drain.
Starting point is 00:45:07 In a drain. He was born and raised in a drain but it doesn't rhyme with the rest of his backstory. That would explain why he's deranged. Yes, it's a terrible place to grow up. A drain? I don't even know how he really got in there. I don't think even a baby would fit in a drain. I think it was like one of those children that Pennywise
Starting point is 00:45:24 stole. But then Pennywise was like, look kid, you look like you're going to have a hard time with or without me. I'm going to leave you here. So he just kind of grew up in the drain. Yeah. Tried to get more kids to come down, but they were like, what the f*** is this kid even doing down there? Just leave him be. So he was strange.
Starting point is 00:45:43 He was deranged. We're not going to come in the drain. Do you want want out but he was so deranged by this yes that uh it's like prison you know you can't make it on the outside of the drain he couldn't yeah i'm glad he somehow managed to get a computer down there though listen to the pod much like prison anytime he was released from the drain he was back inside within 24 hours couldn't help it fell fell down any drain uh but good to see that you're doing okay yeah got an internet connection all of that thanks pepe thank you also to thomas anderson thomas the choo-choo tank engine this guy eats coal and he is a beast. He is jacked. He is stacked. Yes, he is also half tank, but he's kind of whole tank because he's jacked.
Starting point is 00:46:32 So he's a tank, but he's also half an actual military grade tank. Whoa. Yeah, it was an experiment that went really wrong really fast. They fused him with a tank before even really asking if he liked war or thought war was good yeah so i think now he like works at b and q or something on the checkouts yeah yeah he's not involved in the war the conflicts at all no he's very much a beat nick peace loving hippie yeah he puts flowers in his little cannon thing like every day before he leaves the house it's pretty beautiful actually every day before he leaves the house.
Starting point is 00:47:05 It's pretty beautiful, actually. Yeah. And apparently he loves the paranormal as well. Seems like it. Incredible. Caught juicing, though. Yeah. Despite being half tank and being tanked, was caught juicing at his job and being Q.
Starting point is 00:47:18 So thanks, Thomas, the tank engine, for that. Thank you also to Georgie Tsabo. Georgie Tsrabos. That's right. You ever been to Georgie's fish shack? No. The best. The hands down best fish I have ever had.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Georgie serves them up straight from the rocks, dude. Really? Yes. It is legit. You can get anything you want there. As long as it's from the rocks dude yes really yes it is legit you can get anything you want there uh as long as it's from the rocks as long as it's from the rocks uh she doesn't so much do the ocean part but anything you want man uh crabs yeah um i'd hope so uh the little the little triangles that grow on the rocks so You just knew crabs then. I get it every time.
Starting point is 00:48:08 You don't need to go off the special. I usually start with a little crab soup. I'll take the little triangles, sir, followed by the little circles. Delicious stuff, man. She's got it all. They even have one of those tanks where you can pick which crab you want to kill for your dinner that night. To add like a nice little personal touch. and you don't even have to do it georgie herself will beat this crab to death right in front of you very violent it's an incredible experience really yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:48:36 she's missing most of her fingers because these bastards are pissed that they were even taken from the rocks in the first place they are japanese spider crabs they are 18 foot wide yeah she does use a spear i think georgie's like four foot seven as well so it's i mean she's smaller than them really it's more of a gladiator pit than a restaurant it's it's an incredible thing and you know whether you go home empty-handed or whether you go home with georgie wounded but a delicious plate of crab meat um it's a win-win for everyone really affordable as well so thanks georgie for um supporting us on here we'll keep supporting georgie's crabos georgie's fish shack is the name of the restaurant but george eats crabos george you get it you get the
Starting point is 00:49:26 pun and thank you lastly but not leastly to lord grippington lord grippington or as they call him on the streets slippery fingers it's like an ironic name because he cannot hold anything yeah like you you put like a sandwich in his hand and it just like slivers out between his fingers yeah weird i mean his name is grippington yeah you'd think you'd be able to grab he's the black sheep of the family he's a disgrace all of his brothers sisters parents grandparents before him a long line of legendary grippers from rock climbing to like sailors pulling knots and ropes together. That's right. I think his dad was just a vice.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Like an actual vice in a workshop. Not a vice chancellor, not a vice president. A bona fide hardware vice. The most trustworthy grip of all time. But Lord Grippington over here, despite his title, can barely hold a pencil. It slips right out of his slippery eel fingers. Lord Grippington was a title he gave himself to try and win back the respect of his tight-fisted family.
Starting point is 00:50:40 But listen, as much as we just ragged on you for a bit there, we are the people who will not judge you lord grippington all are welcome in the commune except all the new people because there's no room like i said no room at all but uh lord grippington glad to have you glad to have your support um couldn't do it without you so um thanks we we accept you bro glad you have a firm grasp on quality podcasts and thank you to everyone who's supported us on patreon to date um you make it all possible you make it possible for us to exist almost two years later and with a new nomination at the podcast awards that's amazing you guys have made that possible
Starting point is 00:51:17 so from the bottom of our hearts thank you so much thank you we will be back next week with a brand new paranormal tale bye bye folks

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