This Paranormal Life - #116 The House of Faces: Are There Ghosts Trapped In These Walls?

Episode Date: June 11, 2019

In 1971 Bélmez de La Moraleda, a peaceful village in Spain, became the unlikely home of one of the 20th century's most important and controversial paranormal investigations. What do you do when faces... appear in your walls?Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How big a bunker do I need to survive the apocalypse? Can I use a dog whistle to somehow mind control an army of dogs? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life! Hey, welcome back to the podcast. You are listening to This Paranormal Life, the podcast where every Tuesday we pick apart, dissect on the alien gray ufo operating table a different paranormal case each week and get to the bottom as paranormal investigators whether it is true or false and we don't do this shit with a surgeon's touch all right we're not up we're not
Starting point is 00:00:38 going in there with a scalpel i freaking sledgehammer this gray's head open to see what the brains are like it is a mechanic's touch. It is a caveman's touch. Yeah, it is gruesome and gruesome. And did I say gruesome? It's pretty gruesome. That's right. And today being no exception to any other Tuesday, we've got a brand new case to dive right into and investigate.
Starting point is 00:01:00 First of all, this episode comes as a suggestion from a listener. So thank you so much to Luke Headley for sending this one in to us at thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com. Today's story takes us to 1970s Spain. We're in the south of Spain, an extremely sleepy village in the countryside. We're talking rolling hills and mountains, beautiful villas. You were just in Spain. I was. I was in barcelona yeah yeah i was in a pretty touristy trap area of it you used you like specifically said that the travel agent was like do you want to see the beautiful villas the rolling hills you were like shite no yeah i said i want a corona rita on the beach they're like that's
Starting point is 00:01:44 you know like that that beer's owned by budweiser it's not even spanish at this said I want a Corona Rita on the beach. They're like, that's, you know, that beer's owned by Budweiser. It's not even Spanish at this point. I want a Coors Lighter Rita on the beach. They're like, that's not a drink. You can't just put a Rita at the end. Yeah. I want a straight up Chipotle wrap. I want a Chipotle wrap on the seaside.
Starting point is 00:01:59 You can do that. You can do that in London, yeah. Pretty much. But not with a Diet Coke Rita. Yes, a Diet Coke. But I'm guessing, yeah, 70 Spain's probably a little different to what you just experienced,
Starting point is 00:02:10 but this is the countryside. And it's here that Maria Gomez Camara lived and worked. And on August 23rd, she was cleaning in her house when she came across something unusual. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:24 On the stone floor of her kitchen there was a dark stain she thought to herself what on earth could that be she gets down on her hands and knees and starts to scrub at it but it won't budge it's very very stubborn and she scrubs harder and harder you know first she starts with the soft side of the sponge. Yeah. She's like, oh, tough guy stain. You think you're such a, Scott's the big guns? Yeah. She flips the sponge to the rough side. The green one, where the business happens.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Framing out the big guns. Sponge is very much the mullet of cleaning utensils. You got the party on the yellow and then the business on the green. Business on the green. Absolutely. So she starts going a ton with the green side. know she's she's cackling at this point it's like that saying there's no way of surviving this and as she slowly wears away at the stone underneath she started to notice a shape she tilts her head and realized what she was looking at it's a face
Starting point is 00:03:22 what there's a picture of a human face in the stone of her kitchen and she's trying to remove it and it just won't budge at this point she like recoils and stands up she feels weirded out by this outline of a face looking back at her yeah so she tries to ignore it for now to her mind this is just something spilt and it's marked the stone and whatever it looks weird but i wish you'd get rid of it but fine as time goes by she's walking past it and she could swear that it's changing shape even as she walks around it later her husband and son come home and she immediately shows them they're like that's weird yeah it's kind of a weird thing to have to introduce to your family when they come home.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Like, I don't know. What did you say this was in the 70s? This is like more in the era of like stay at home sort of like wives. I'm guessing compared to like today's world. Sure. So it's like maybe when your husband comes home, like he's usually the ones with the stories. Yeah. How was your day?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Well, because he's like, well, you were just here. So I don't need to ask you, you know, in that 70s way. Yeah, like he's just super condescending, like, wash any good dishes today? And she's like, well, I freaking summoned a floor genie. That's right, I scrubbed a tile and a face appeared.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Did you get any wishes at least? Wish for a non-deadbeat husband. Yeah, she shows them the stain and they're like oh whatever the men of the house are here we'll get rid of it and i don't know what they do at this point they get out like the industrial scrubbers the mr muscle they start scrubbing and scrubbing but nothing moves this face does not want to go anywhere so are we talking about a stain on the floor that looks like a face or is this okay that's all right you gotta cut me off there i didn't so that's what we're that's
Starting point is 00:05:10 what we're talking i wasn't listening what are you gonna say well is it a stain on the floor all right so you did so you did hear the first time when i heard so you said was it a stain it's a stain all right we're not having a conversation if i'm asking a question and then yep you say that sorry bro i like sorry if you just want to talk like just go ahead let me you know what because it was two options so if i flip it and i'll say the second option first and then you'll hear it okay fine was it yeah all right okay cool i can see how this is gonna go so it was both of them it was both of the options you didn't say two things
Starting point is 00:05:45 what are you saying like is it both of i'm assuming that they just smash it with a hammer is that what's gonna happen here because that's very much what i feel like should happen father and son tried and tried but this didn't go anywhere and as the days went by this face is haunting them taunting them at this point every time they walk through their kitchen which is pretty often we all like snacks yeah they could swear that this face was changing position even facial expression but refused to be removed and at that point you know you're walking through you don't like you're not taking photographs of it not least in the 70s to record what facial expression it was you just out of the corner of your eye you catch a glimpse of
Starting point is 00:06:25 it and you're like i feel like it's smiling at me today yeah like one of those weird cardboard cutouts of humans that when you walk across the room it looks like their eyes are following you yeah yep it got to the point that the family were so frustrated they said enough is enough this is ridiculous i guess we stay in the floor somehow that's too bad but we can keep looking at this thing it's driving us crazy so they actually went as far as you called it ripping up that entire section of the floor they've got pickaxes out they've got jackhammers yes they are just tearing up that concrete the dad squad got in there and just refurbished that son of a bitch yeah you think the dad squad
Starting point is 00:07:06 does a lot of fighting crime it's kind of in the name it's a lot of refurbishing yeah more there's a lot of dads with power tools just on call waiting for any excuse to use them because they bought that power tool on discount they thought they would get loads of use out of it but uh-oh once you've fixed junior's bike once or twice it doesn't really do much else but gather dust in the garage. They've got all that as-seen-on-TV shit as well. They've got shake weights. They've got that shit that makes juice really easily. So if you call up the Dad Squad hotline, it's like, hey, I've got a face in my one.
Starting point is 00:07:41 You need a shake weight, bro? You guys need some juice? I'll bring the juice. No. You didn't even let me finish. I got a jackhammer for $2.99. It's like, all right, Chris, that's a good deal, but we don't need the jackhammer. $2.99 watts, shake weights?
Starting point is 00:07:55 Christ. This is an internal economy of dad squads. $2.99 per month, 20 years. All right, bad deal. Don't you have a job to be at? So they tear up the concrete and then they pour in new concrete over this crater that is now their kitchen.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And as soon as it sets, the face that tormented them is now gone. Nice. Easy. That was a pretty easy solution. I mean, they just had to remodel their entire kitchen. Easy. Get a cement mixer, pour new cement into it.
Starting point is 00:08:26 But hey. Small price to pay. Until one week later. Oh God. Maria enters the kitchen one morning and sees the impossible. The face is back. Not only is it not gone, by all accounts, this thing is clearer than ever. It's flipping her off now.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Every facial feature is more distinct and it's not long until the word is spreading around town of course maria and the family would love to keep this under wraps but good luck maria is walking around the village looking tired as shit because she can't sleep at night because there's a human face in her flooring people are going to ask questions yeah if marie is bringing a jackhammer around town and cement mixers into her living room people are going to ask questions obviously yeah and not to mention this is a very small town um it's very picturesque as well but word is going to spread fast so while the family are now trying to get rid of this creepy face that's freaking them out
Starting point is 00:09:19 they have local villagers knocking on the door coming coming to see it. They start calling it La Casa de las Caras, or the House of Faces. And I guess this is fine for the family, but as far as they're concerned, this has to go. They have plans to rip up everything. Obviously, they think something underneath the flooring is causing this shape. So like, right, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:09:44 You know, maybe there's some sort of like chemical leak that's like discoloring the stone like i don't know but something's doing it time and time again this is a very smart approach for a family the team pretty willing to rename their house the casa of faces because because this is quite a scientific intellectual approach like yeah as you said like maybe it's in the foundation of the house itself like they've gone to that yes the foundations of the house of faces is all wrong by the way admission is 30 bucks non-refundable just put it in the face's mouth yeah there's something satisfying about this because in the horror movies
Starting point is 00:10:25 the family is always frustratingly stuck in their ways it's that thing of like oh i don't care if the if like a demon has possessed my little boy we're not leaving this house yeah it's like this is so easily solvable put down a deposit on a new rental move out burn all your shit whatever yeah move on just burn it and move on we've talked about it before on the podcast i actually exactly as you said the amount of uh movies where they're in a haunted house and they're like maybe we could just move away and the husband's like no it'll follow us it's like you don't know that try moving away yeah process of elimination because if anything i've learned from those movies is he loves the house. It's all about the house.
Starting point is 00:11:05 It's mostly about the house. He doesn't give a shit about you. He just cares because you're in the f***ing house. It's a very like self-absorbed thing to be like, no, no, no. The ghost loves me. Wherever I go, he'll haunt me. It's like, well, you're in a Starbucks right now and shit isn't happening. So it's probably not you.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Soy latte for Michaelael who said that like that was the barista you know that wasn't the ghost you're still standing at the bar yeah like the audacity to think like if we packed up tomorrow babe and went to puerto rico this son of a bitch is following us he's like no he's he's obviously not drinking a mai tai on the beautiful sandy beaches he's linked to the house just like this guy is. I assure you, if they move to another house, he's not going to appear on the walls, this little face. It's very much linked to the house. Like I say, this is refreshing, their approach to things.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And something even more refreshing is about to happen. Right as they're about to rip up this floor, the goddamn mayor steps in. He catches wind of this paranormal situation and he says, Wait, not yet. Not till the mayor's had a look. Okay. I don't know if his mayor was a big paranormal believer, but he was the only one with the cojones to say, We need to research this. We need to see what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Which is pretty great for a mayor because I don't think Sadiq Khan is doing that in London. No, if there's any cursed floorboards, I don't know if he's getting down there to investigate it. I think he's pretty nice. I don't think he's doing that. I think if you're a New Yorker with an orb in your living room, de Blasio himself isn't coming around with an EMF reader. But that's exactly what happened in this town in Spain.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And the mayor went deep with this one. He teamed up with the city council to remove the entire section of concrete to study, get people looking at it, work out what's causing this thing. This is a good mayor. This is fair play. He's letting the people starve, the streets go to shit, but he's like, this kitchen we're gonna get to the bottom of. Four more years.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Four more years. He's like making out with the mouth on the floor. Packs of wild dogs are terrorizing the streets of the city. His cabinet, mostly dogs. What's a big dog is running this town? Is that a corporation of dogs? No, it's one massive
Starting point is 00:13:24 dog. He's got a right hand man a left paw dog they say one day they're just gonna swap him out for a dog and no one's gonna realize that's when they know the people will just take anything there's a goddamn dog running the place he's just barking into a microphone four more years four more years dogs lick in the face so they now have experts digging into this kitchen analyzing the concrete and when they did look into this they discovered something very very unexpected underneath this concrete floor were bones oh my god human bones human skeletons in Several feet down, there were human remains dating back hundreds of years. The local media goes crazy. What does this mean? Does this confirm
Starting point is 00:14:12 the paranormal suspicions about these faces? Does this prove anything? Well, immediately, they removed the remains and buried them in a nearby church graveyard, laying them to rest for good. It's a pretty smart move. And he's thinking like this before a curse has been inflicted, before ghosts are walking around in the house. I like this guy. This is the kind of leadership we honestly need. Honestly, I don't care if he is a dog. He's making the right decisions.
Starting point is 00:14:37 A lot of the quotes that are coming up are largely dog noises. This would make a lot of sense. Smart. He was suspiciously into the bones. It's like, I think he just buried them himself with his paws in the graveyard. It's pure coincidence it was in a church. So they lay a new floor in this kitchen. I mean, this thing is spanking new. You can eat your breakfast off the ground where the face used to be. Nice. And the face from before didn't return.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Many, many other faces returned. What? There is not just one, there is multiple. So mysteriousuniverse.org wrote in detail about this story, and they wrote the following passage. Instead of one face, there were now several, each with differing facial expressions, ranging from neutral, to
Starting point is 00:15:26 a slight smile, to a scowl, to a look of abject agony. These faces would sometimes disappear, only to be replaced by another different face, and moving positions was not an uncommon thing for them to do. Among the faces were men, women, adults, children, sometimes smiling, sometimes screaming. It was obvious that something very bizarre was going on here. The story was carried in news outlets all over the country and the world, and hundreds of people from various countries came to see the famous faces. The Perez family actually took to charging admission to come see the faces, which did raise suspicions that it was being done for profit
Starting point is 00:16:05 but they remained adamant that they only wanted the paranormal images gone do we have so do we have any pictures of these faces absolutely glad yes i'm so glad because originally when we're talking about a stain that kind of resembles a human face i'm thinking okay maybe there's it's like um you know those masks that they used to like show drama like the happy yep face mask and a sad face mask i thought maybe something like that but now you're saying it's so clear that they can even detect the gender of these faces and the age of these faces yeah so i'll show you some here i don't know what you'll think of it i think you'll get the sense that they differ quite widely.
Starting point is 00:16:47 But this can't be, they look, these are, what? Why do they all look so different? They do look pretty different. No, but not even the faces. That's like, that's a charcoal painting. I'm not saying the faces look different. These images look different. Right, well, Rory, hundreds of visitors from all around the world with all different types of cameras came to visit.
Starting point is 00:17:10 And one came with a Game Boy camera? Absolutely, they did. This is insane. I do recommend looking up the faces of Belmez on Google Image. You will see that some of them are so vague that you can understand maria when she was cleaning her kitchen and she was like oh that's weird that's a kind of stain yeah and then others are just like very detailed painting yeah it's an actual just painting of a human not even like there's bodies in here yeah like there's faces and bodies and hair and they're
Starting point is 00:17:41 all posing it's just it's art on the floor right it's not a stain at this point mystery art yeah to a certain degree there's some of these i'm really glad that i saw and there's some of these i wish i hadn't seen ghostly art demon art art by a demon themselves i think um we've talked about this before in the podcast. Any point in which the paranormal story turns to a point where the person inflicted is now making money off of what happened. It always leaves a bit of a bitter taste. Yeah, they started charging straight up cash to see the faces. So basically, once these images, once the word about the faces of this house got out an army of paranormal investigators descended on the house of faces to try and prove once and for all
Starting point is 00:18:34 whether the phenomenon was real or not it was described by some and this is it's weird because i i hadn't heard a lot about it. I maybe heard a whisper of it online. Well, that's why we didn't go. Also because it was the 70s. Of course, yeah. But at the time, some were saying this is the most significant paranormal event of the 20th century. It kind of captured people's imaginations. And paranormal investigators are like bees.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And a paranormal event is the queen bee. Wherever the queen bee is, we'll go there. we'll flock to it we'll protect it we'll investigate it we move as a hive if we sting once we'll die we're going extinct we're going extinct but if without us the planet would be doomed there's a lot of different yeah aspects to take we make sweet delicious truth honey that you can spread on your toast in the morning honeys are bees podcasts and you can quote him on that i don't know a lot about bee facts but i'm pretty sure like a paranormal investigator they don't have a lot of sex and maybe if they do it kills them again it sounds right it sounds right it sounds right and it sounds good yeah we live short lives and we protect the queen that's all we do and make
Starting point is 00:19:52 that sweet sweet truth honey who's the queen the queen is whatever paranormal shit's going on the queen is the greys the queen is area 51 sir and i will protect the queen with my stinger. Protect Area 51? I don't get it. I will flock to it and protect it, but only once because then I die if I actually do anything. If I swing a single punch. If you go to Area 51 and swing a punch, you probably will die, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Just walk up to the biggest guard at Area 51, cock your fist and go, FOR THE QUEEN! And swing it. You are going to get shot by 50 snipers before your fist even meets his face. Your little bee body just explodes from every sniper bullet.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Yeah. Buzz buzz, sir. Reports went that these paranormal investigators even cordoned off the rooms so that no one could come or go from the room for three whole months. And when they returned, the faces had absolutely moved and transformed in that time. I forgot we weren't talking about bees until you said the faces.
Starting point is 00:20:54 You said they cordoned off the room and I was like, because of the bees? I was like, wait, shit, we're not talking about, we're not investigating bees. The bees was a bad metaphor at best. It's a terrible metaphor that went on for way too long we're back on the faces but whilst some of these researchers were absolutely convinced that the faces were not caused by paints or dying or interference of any kind others were skeptical namely the spanish interior ministry who launched an investigation with concrete specialists to determine the cause as well as the journal of the society for psychical research publishing a review
Starting point is 00:21:31 of research on the topic um so these are pretty needless to say officious organizations yeah and they pretty much believed that this could be achieved with acids or very specific corrosive cleaning products that someone if they wanted to they could kind of without painting the stone they could burn away images right right so like using a i guess strong enough acidic liquid just kind of leave it there overnight with an acid yeah right create those images hey that's pretty smart but there was and this is kind of a an interesting story because there's a little bit of leeway with all of this information some people were convinced it was real other people decided that it was absolutely caused by acids and cleaning products others said that no we've we've controlled for that circumstance you can't just burn away
Starting point is 00:22:22 these images that easily so we're essentially left with two possible mechanisms for how this happened one's paranormal and one's not the one that's not is that this is a straight-up scam granted some of the signs are there they started charging at the door that's always a good sign they renamed they renamed their house the house of faces right off the bat and the fact that some of these prestigious societies have said this looks like it's physically possible to do yeah but on the paranormal research side people were saying this could be an example of photography okay i'm not familiar with the the word neither was i so this is kind of, but this is the idea of where in photography you use a device to capture light and impress that on a film or now a digital sensor to create an image.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I thought it was magic, but all right, that sounds right though. You thought it was magic? You have... I've been calling it the wizard box for 12 years. You have a ton of cameras. I think, didn't you study film? Wouldn't you collect magical shit if you thought it was magic you did refer to your university as hogwarts most of the time now that i think about yeah on my photography course right well you're calling it photography
Starting point is 00:23:33 course now because i think i just explained to you what photography is but before you you called it magic 101 like what are we studying today grandmaster you have to stop calling me that it's been one and a half years and we haven't learned a single spell yet you must know even if you thought you were in hogwarts you're taking the wrong class you haven't got past the first lesson about exposure exposure to the dark arts get out just get out just leave that leave now we tried to expel him but he has so much money he just keeps paying for tuition fees over and over. What was that spell? Expel.
Starting point is 00:24:10 But in thoughtography, this is where you use a telekinetic ability, the power of the mind itself through a paranormal unknown mechanism to create an image. So the idea here is that Maria or someone else in the house, create an image so the idea here is that maria or someone else in the house either knowingly and deliberately was using their mind to create these images okay or in some kind of unconscious x-men way their emotions were being reflected onto the stone of their own house wow which opens up a whole can of worms because this is stuff that we allude to when we talk about ghosts. We say, what if the memory or the feelings or something traumatic happened in this house and now it's in the walls? Yeah, yeah. And this is just a very literal description of that.
Starting point is 00:24:56 But now having kind of explained to you the basics of this story and what I think we're left with as the two possible mechanisms for how this has happened. Do either one of those make sense to you? This is quite an interesting one to investigate because the case is the evidence. And we have the evidence. Well, we have pictures of it, which we don't always have the luxury of when we're investigating the paranormal. As we said, there's two options here. It's quite suspicious when someone starts monetizing the paranormal. That's usually a little red flag for me but then also some of those pictures you showed me they look a lot
Starting point is 00:25:29 more what i was imagining in my head quite a vague ambiguous haunting face burnt into the stone some of them looked like paintings from a museum that were just ancient ones done on cave walls or something they were almost too precise. I wouldn't even, that's not a stain at that point. That's a very, very well-painted picture. I probably couldn't do that on paper to give you an idea of how well-defined these images are. Yeah, it definitely raises the question because whenever you see an outline of a face,
Starting point is 00:26:02 some of those look like whenever you press your face against a frosted like icy pane of glass yeah and the outline of your face is there some of them look like that and you kind of go okay maybe a ghost is pressing his face against the concrete i don't know yeah but whenever like you say it's a drawing it's a straight up drawing of bodies and hands and hair that's like what's the idea here is the ghost drawing it yeah yeah because it's not pushing itself against the rocks anymore yeah it's just a painting of humans somehow it's a little less creepy i guess there is the angle that maybe this is maria is doing a mind painting but sure immediately that's less interesting and also we lose the connection to by the way all the skeletons that were underneath the concrete it's true the only
Starting point is 00:26:50 thing i can do is put myself in the mind like talk about my own experiences dealing with really horrific stains and i only have one experience that i'm going to disclose it's the worst experience i've ever had with a stain before in my life fine this is a true story there was one morning where i woke up and i was apocalyptically hungover sure and it was like a blasting hot day you know you look like smiegel in bed you didn't wear any covers because you're just like a little rat um i woke up and I was trying to find literally anything to drink because my mouth was so dry. And the only thing I had was a novelty IV drip
Starting point is 00:27:33 filled with sugar blood. It's been in my drawer for about two years. I don't know how I got it. It's one of those things you just have had forever. It's a promotional item of some description. it's just a fake iv drip filled with like red sugar liquid that looks like blood and i was like this is at least something that will put liquid in my mouth yeah it's it's like 20 foot closer than the tap with water which at that point was like delivering the ring to mordor it was a whole thing and again i'm smiegel so as much as i want that ring it's not worth it uh so i grabbed that little sachet
Starting point is 00:28:14 and i do the dumbest shit thing that i think everyone's done in their life once which is they think they can drink while lying down yeah which is based on nothing because you never do it in life nobody ever does on nothing you only do it when you're desperate and on top of that i squeezed the sachet so a whole iv drip full of fake blood went shooting over my face of course all down my bed i didn't have a mattress protector on at the time. So it just went like waterfall of fake blood all over my hungover face. I got up, ran to the bathroom. It was too late. It had soaked in.
Starting point is 00:28:52 It looked like I'd murdered someone on the sheets. Holy shit. It was so bad. And I was so hungover and it was such an awful stain that all I could do was flip the mattress and hope that no one ever looked on that side. Especially when I moved out and they thought I had maybe killed a prostitute. But that was... This is you in an AA meeting.
Starting point is 00:29:13 My name is Rory and this is my story. But my point being, the reason I took you on that terrible journey with me was because when I created that ghastly haunting stain i didn't call it the casa de blood i didn't monetize it or take weird pictures i flipped the mattress got rid of it and i tried to hide it from anyone and i know we had a little bit of that at the start where she didn't necessarily want to tell people about the face but i think at any point if you're trying to make monetary gain off something that is genuinely haunting you, those are two conflicting sides here. And that stain haunts me to this day. Someone moved into that room with a mattress flipped down.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Someone's going to flip that mattress, Kit, and they're not going to know what happened. And then the next night, they're going to flip it over again. And there's going to be a stain on the other side. They go, wait, I thought I flipped it already. And the stain keeps coming back. Next thing you know, it's the Casa de la Blood. They're charging 20 bucks a head to see the thing. I could have been doing that from day one. So I think if my own experiences are anything to draw on, I don't trust these guys.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I don't think this is a legitimate paranormal case. Unfortunately, the fact that the scientists can pretty strongly conclude that this could be done with reasonably acidic cleaning materials, which is well within the grasp of the tenants of this house. I don't know. There's too many things that are putting me off calling this thing paranormal i pretty much agree one of the things people said about this was even if the uh original house of faces was legitimate and paranormal and maria had some sort of paranormal powers since maria died um in the last 20 years she died in 2004 the faces have kept going and everyone's in agreement that the faces that are there today are absolutely a scam right which doesn't ruin the original story necessarily but it shows you that some part of this is a scam it's a part of this is a bona fide scam yeah it's a shame because the original face is cool is a cool enough story by itself yeah to have that taken away and examined that's quite cool the fact that now a series of faces came back all more intricately designed than the originals yeah it's it's overkill isn't it it's a bit too much it sounds like we're coming on a couple no's today yeah like if my
Starting point is 00:31:38 if the mayor of london had come and taken my blood-soaked mattress out of my room. And the next day, I go to bed, and there's like human organs falling out of the thing. You know, that's one thing. But if I had just gone back and be like, there's more blood now, look at it. People wouldn't believe me. They wouldn't believe me. I mean, they shouldn't have believed me the first time, to be fair.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I don't know what the mayor's doing with that mattress. So this one might divide opinion. We've come down on two no's today to say that this is not just a no but a scam um that's unprecedented on this show but maybe you disagree maybe you know more about this case than we do that's probably true you can let us know what you think about it by emailing this paranormal life podcastallifepodcast at gmail.com. As always, hit us up in the socials, twitter.com forward slash thisparalife or facebook.com forward slash thisparanormallife. Email us in and let us know about all the times that you've tried to drink a liquid
Starting point is 00:32:36 while lying down. Tell us about the most horrific stains of your life. We want to hear it all, folks. Emotional stains and physical physical i hope you've enjoyed this episode if you're listening to this paranormal life and you simply can't get enough always know do not forget that we do have a backlog of bonus episodes available to listen to on patreon.com patreon for the uninitiated is the way that we make this podcast possible the way that you make it possible for us to keep doing it's a way that creators like us can create things like podcasts and then the
Starting point is 00:33:11 people who enjoy it the people who listen to it and make it possible you can donate a certain amount of money and get rewards in return you're being too obscure here man all right look it's a it's the hive it's the f**king beehive you want your truth honey you drop a nugget of pollen in the hive that's like one way i mean i think that i think they get it now type of metaphor but like i would say it's probably closer that we we create something we create a thing and then you take your thing and you give it to us and then we can give you back like a bee would i guess it is a bit like a bee like you give us paul and you're just you're confusing them i guess if you say too many words like email addresses sign up five like all these numbers
Starting point is 00:33:55 and like nerd shit yeah it's just off-putting the more you talk about bees people really get on so if you guys here's the buzz you want to know what's happening at the hive we need you to sting us yeah and it'll kill you but it'll be worth it so do that over at patreon.com where for as little as five z tokens five stings a month as little as five five honey dollars a month you can get access to a whole backlog of truth honey that's right we have stuff over at patreon.com that's the place to go if you want to get access
Starting point is 00:34:31 to more this paranormal life and we do like to take time at the end of the episode of every episode to shout out some of the little buzzing bastards who supported us on patreon and that's what we're going gonna do right now a very special thank you to cory botsko cory botsko the ceo of botsko they are one of the world's premier
Starting point is 00:34:55 bot manufacturing companies wow the height the premier of bot technology botsko where the bots go i think was their slogan. I think so. I think Corey came up with that himself. Which was cute, but it didn't make a lot of sense. Not massive. Because the bots don't go there.
Starting point is 00:35:12 They come from there. They come from there. I mean, I don't think he has many responsibilities to that company. Also, since the whole
Starting point is 00:35:19 bot murder rampage scandal a couple years back, I don't think Botsko has a great pr image too bad it's his last name so he can't really back out yeah they had to change it to botsco where the bots go to get decommissioned from because of the murder spree yep a little less exciting slogan but hey thanks for the support man thanks. Thanks also to Carrie Ketter. Carrie Ketter, the go-getter.
Starting point is 00:35:50 She goes door-to-door selling Carrie Berries, which I thought was actually quite a cute thing. Like, hey, do you want to buy a Carrie Berry? I found out Carrie Berry is like street slang for methamphetamine. Shush. Yeah, she was basically door-to-door selling heavy drugs. That's very cruel because it's definitely it sounds like a mix between what a berry and a care bear yeah but it's actually hardcore methamphetamines really hard like nasty stuff like designed for bad trips yeah like you know when you get those like those pills those pills that are like, Hey, have a McCloud, man.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Or a floaty drop. Yeah, it's like a unicorn on it. Yeah. And then you get those other ones that are like, Have a, you know, a little drop of demon shit. You know, and it's like, it's got like devil horns on it. You know, those really hard stuff. Carrie's berries are pretty much the worst of it all.
Starting point is 00:36:43 It's designed, like, Some people say it just opens the gates of hell right in front of you as soon as it drops. For everyone or just you? For everyone involved. What? They get a contact high. It's really dangerous stuff. But she's a go-getter. Thanks for the support. Thank you also to Jarko
Starting point is 00:37:00 Utu. Ah, Jarko. He's the CEO of Jarko. They invented the CEO of Jarko. They invented the f***ing jar. No way. That's insane, man. Wait, Jarko from Jarko where jars go? That incredible
Starting point is 00:37:15 slogan? That's right. They created the first jar designed only to hold other jars. Amazing. I mean, they got some bad PR after that jar. That f***ing jar killing spree where the jars came to life and just trapped humans inside using the technology from botsco that's right that's how they did it and then it's jar coat where jars go to get smashed yeah i hope business is picking up man after the the whole killing spree thing. Good to see so many business tycoons listening to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I love it. Thanks also to Corey DeGenova. Corey, did you know the ice caps are melting? Did you know the forest is getting torn down? And that's why I think we don't have long left on this planet. It's time to just grab as many fossil fuels as we can and get the f out of here i think what off earth off of earth there's got to be other gold mines in the galaxy so you don't even want somewhere habitable that's like nice to live in nah i just want a gold mine a dusty dark mine
Starting point is 00:38:19 a space mine that's all i want and i'll nuke it first for safety to just clear whatever's going on down there. You can't live on it. The first thing you'll do is nuke it. Well, I think Corey will nuke it. That's why I got him on board. Me and Corey adventure in space together. Nuking shit. Collecting gold.
Starting point is 00:38:38 It's the dream lifestyle. But Corey, did you know that I can fly a spaceship? And I should have warned you before we started and launched the bad boy. But did you know that we're probably going to die up here, Corey? Because I don't know where this treasure planet is. Did you know that, Corey? Corey's been dead for three months. Just floating.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Thank you so much, Corey, for all your support. One day we'll find that treasure island or Or planet. Whatever we're looking for. Thanks also to Orin Ben Shabbat. Knock, knock, Kit. Who's there? Orin. Orin who? Aren't you glad I didn't say Ben Shabbat?
Starting point is 00:39:15 Ben Shabbat? I'm starting to realize this joke might not have the punchline I was open for. I signed a check that my mouth cannot cash. Oren, I apologize for the poor delivery of your joke, but I will not apologize for the rich delivery of your patronage. Wow. Thank you so much for your support, Oren. Very much appreciated, Oren.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Thanks also to Hans Christian Frick. I'm sorry to say we won't be needing a lot of Hans where we're going because in the hive there's no Hans it's all wings, it's all stingers it's all honey, it's all honey tokens sweet sweet honey so Hans if you don't mind
Starting point is 00:39:57 rebranding a little bit we'll have a ton of room for Bee Christian Frick, Wings Christian Frick. Wings Christian Frick, yeah. Anything along those lines. Honey Christian Frick is a pretty cool rap name. Honey Christian. Honey Christian.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Yeah, I like it. If you're thinking about rebranding yourself, we could always use a new rap artist in the hive. Always. So thank you, Hans. Thanks also to Darren Harsh. I don't want to be harsh, Darren, but I don't think you're hive material. Whoa, so rude. Darren, your honey
Starting point is 00:40:32 quota has been down in Q4, and I mean it, man. We have a pretty loose demand for honey, but when I get bee after bee coming back, pollened up to the bee nips, and you're coming back there with little scraps of pollen. I'm making it abundantly clear I have no idea what the f*** bees do.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I think they roll about in a flower, and then it turns out into honey. Or they have sex with a queen or something. You also said the demand for honey in the market is pretty loose. So we're not selling anything? No, we're not selling. It turns out no one wants honey anymore. It's full of sugars. It's bad for you. Darren, I'll give you
Starting point is 00:41:10 another chance, alright? It's a new year. It's a new Q. And yes, the demand is low, so the supply can be low, Darren. If you're ready to deliver the goods or not. For now, you've got a place in the hive, sure. Thank you also to Emily Brightcup. Emily, more like Emmama b that's right another buzz buzz buzzing contributor dropping another sweet piece of honey in the hive
Starting point is 00:41:35 of the paranormal bees thank you emma b we appreciate that sweet sweet honey truth cannot stress enough don't know who the queen is don't know who we're making all this honey for We know what once it was sure gotta keep making it Thank you lastly but not leastly to Lucas Cato Lucas Cato just wants to cradle But it's pretty hard with no hands and just little bee wings turns out you can't actually hold shit You can just rip you just roll around in pollen and make honey with your ass. Whatever the hell bees do. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:09 With your ass? I don't know. Like, they have to shit, right? Do bees shit? Why would they? What? Look, we don't know what bees do, Lucas. All we know is we have a surplus of honey and nobody wants it.
Starting point is 00:42:26 All right. So I think if we just make a little more, if we have enough, maybe someone will bulk buy. We appreciate your support. We hope that one day you can cradle or be cradled in a human hands or be wings. But until then, thank you for your support. And thank you to everyone we've shouted out on this episode and previous episodes. To those who are still waiting on a shout out, thank you so much for being patient with us. We've got a little backlog, granted, but we're getting there slowly but surely each and every week.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Hope you enjoyed this week's episode. Tune in next Tuesday because we'll be back with yet another paranormal tale. And don't forget, bees, to live fast live fast make honey and die young baby

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