This Paranormal Life - #121 The Baltic Sea Anomaly: Underwater UFO

Episode Date: July 16, 2019

In 2011 a team of adventurers known as Ocean X dove to the bottom of the Baltic Sea - What they found changed their lives forever, and started a media firestorm about an underwater UFO. But was it truly paranormal?Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Do we have untapped alien DNA that will activate when humans start living in space? F*** yeah. Is fire a type of magic? F*** yeah. Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life. Oh, welcome back to This Paranormal Life. This is the weekly podcast where every week we dissect a different paranormal tale, case, or claim and get to the bottom of

whether it is truly paranormal or not. You're joined by myself, Kit Greer, this guy across from me, Rory Powers. How are you doing today, Rory? I'm doing pretty good. I'm doing pretty good. Like every week, I'm excited to dive into the world of the paranormal. Deep dive off the high board. Ass first, cannonball straight into that paranormal pool. I can't wait. Were you trained to go ass first? Ass first, that's the way you should go. Ass first, cannonball straight into that paranormal pool. Were you trained to go ass first? Ass first, that's the way you should go. Ass first, questions later. It's nature's cushions, all right?

Don't even look if there's children nearby. Don't even double check to see if you're in the deep end. Just go ass first. Don't even check to make sure there's water in the pool. Of course. Even if that thing's abandoned. Ass first from the hive ward. If I see anything that looks in passing glance like a diving board,

I will leap off it ass first. 100%. Scaffolding in the street, I will climb to the top of that building and leap. It's funny you mention that because we will be doing a little diving today. In fact, a little deep diving today. Right off the bat, today's investigation comes courtesy of Nicholas Jovan O'Rourke. Thanks for writing into this Paranormal Life podcast

at gmail.com, Nicholas. Thanks, Nicholas. Appreciate it. So today we journey to uncharted territory, somewhere we've never been before on the podcast. The Baltic Sea. I can just, sorry to interrupt, I can just feel it. This is going to be our best episode yet really i really think so i just there's an energy in the room today i think

this is going to be our best one yet i love the belief brother let's let's try and ride that wave yeah all right let's do it focused okay i mean yeah like i'm always focused but that's focused okay yeah don't put too much pressure on me bro just read the page though people don't like it when you dilly dally don't get into the don't throw on your pressure on me bro just read the page though people don't like it when you dilly dally and you don't get into the stories don't drum on your knees because it's getting kind of antsy and I'm just

you're doing it more I just said stop and you're still doing it well now I'm freaking out you've never drummed before in a podcast now I'm freaking out now I'm fidgety

don't freak out it's not gonna be the best podcast ever if we freak out I feel I can feel the listeners dropping out right now as we speak

you're sweating I'm sweating we edit the podcast we can cut any of this we should f***ing cut this thing because I'm okay we will i'm freaking out dude breathe use that paper bag over there should we conclude no this is the start of the podcast oh god okay calm it all right let's just try and get through the start of the story i promise you it's gonna be a good episode do you

think it's still good yeah all right listen it's it's it's okay so far let's try and bring it up to a good let's keep that energy up that's right we're in the baltic sea off the coast of sweden this is absolute viking territory huge stretches of water going all the way from germany to saint petersburg and russia and beyond it's said that so many ancient and historic ships have wrecked in the Baltic Sea that there may be as many as 100,000 stuck under the water. Wow. And because ice from surrounding countries, all those kind of snowy countries in Scandinavia and beyond, they melt and run off into the Baltic Sea. So the sea has a kind of curiously low amount of salt which means that it's

perfect for preserving anything that might still be down there. It's 2011, and divers off the coast of Sweden are on the hunt. They're searching hundreds of feet down in the icy, pitch-black waters with only their electronic instruments to guide them. As they dive further and further, they're counting down their distance to the seabed. 400 meters, 340 meters, 280 meters, 240 meters, 210 meters. They're really going down there. Yet right as they hit 200 meters above the seabed, everything goes offline. Radar, comms, everything goes out like a light.

As you can imagine, the team are terrified, but they regain their composure and they pull back a short distance where the electronics come back online. What the hell just happened? How did all of our equipment just go down? Had they found exactly what they were looking for? Okay, tell the team to do a scan of this area

over when the dive team resurfaced and i haven't mentioned this so far but this team was headed up by peter lindbergh and dennis osberg and what they saw when they did a sonar scan of the seabed would change the course of their lives forever my initial reaction when the circle turned up on the monitor was hey guys here we have a UFO I got ghost bumps all over my body I've never ever seen anything like that oh my goodness and Rory just so we can recreate what happened to them that day I'm gonna show you exactly what they saw on sonar. Oh, okay. So this is...

I'm not entirely sure what this is. It looks like someone carved in stone a small version of the Millennium Falcon. Rory's word's not mine, folks. Rory's word's not mine. It's very hard to tell. What we're looking at here is an image from sonar. So it's black and white. It's very hard to tell. What we're looking at here is an image from sonar. So it's black and white. It's very low resolution.

I'm not getting a lot from this image in particular. I feel that. So I'm sure everyone knows what sonar is. Basically, they have a couple of different ways of scanning the ocean floor. From what I understand, they have kind of very precise devices that can do kind of minuscule detail. But generally what they use for scanning the seabed is sonar it can cover quite a large area this is when they bounce sound waves off the bottom of the ocean floor it bounces back and the time between it being emitted and received again tells them

the distance from the ocean floor so this gives them a kind of 2d map of the ocean floor so i suppose a totally flat surface will just look gray uh yeah here but what we're seeing is essentially a visual representation of the outline of some structure on the seafloor here and as rory says it does look remarkably like a millennium falcon i have to say worryingly so i mean i don't also don't know the scale of this so whether or not a child dropped his millennium falcon toy into the ocean after a cruise, or whether this is an enormous craft, it's a little hard to tell. Whether there is a Wookiee and indeed Han pounding on the glass of the cockpit,

that would give us a bit more information. Exactly. But that's a great point. They saw this and immediately they asked themselves, how big is this? Because if you're right, if this is a few feet across, this may or may not be important. But they checked the scale and this thing is 180 foot across. It's massive. And crucially, they also spotted what appeared to be a tail in the seabed stretching out behind the object as if it slid across the seabed to get there. After making this

discovery, they turned and said to each other, Remember I said to all the crew members that be quiet about this. Don't say anything. I think that's good. It's quite sensible. Yeah, because I guess if you're the people who want the information to be free,

you don't want to tell the government before they shut it down. Hell yeah. But also if you're the government, you don't want to tell people about what you found anyway. So it's hard to but also if you're the government you don't want to tell people about what you found anyway so it's hard to know which side they're necessarily on yeah we do not know if they are government or civilian yeah which is why as soon as we find this thing i'm pulling my gun i'm pulling my revolver on the whole operation i got two dirty

harry's pointed at each scientist pointed pointed at my right hand man and my left hand man that's also what i call the guns confusingly and sure one in my own mouth because i don't even trust myself at this point i looked at scientist dead in the eye the man i've known for years and i say tell me something only a f**king narc would know. He's like, you want me to rat out myself if I am an FBI agent? Bam! Too slow. Too slow, motherf***er. You start turning on your own shit, mates.

Yeah. You're turning to your first mate going, you'd love to know about this, wouldn't you, you CIA-looking bastard? And he's like, I found it, and I just showed you. There's no logic to this whatsoever. Too slow. The other mate's like, that wasn't too slow. He gave an immediate explanation.

Harpoon him through the wall. Like we shouldn't have let him bring the harpoon on board. We were very suspicious from the get as to why he wanted to bring so many ocean weapons onto a peaceful fishing trip. Yeah, a scientist shouldn't get into the research submarine but before they close the latch say to his crewman whatever happens on the submarine stays on the submarine he goes to lower it someone blocks his hand no no no i want to make sure that when we're going down there we all know that's not what's

gonna happen oh i just mean you know like fun haha fun stuff like las vegas scientific voyage so it's not gonna be that fun okay and the whole point of going down because you said what happens on the submarine sure stays on the submarine we can we can do the science but we don't have to tell anyone about the science well there's not there's not a lot of point in going down there to hunt for for shit unfound shit, if we're not going to tell anyone afterwards. Look, all I want to do... Your grip tightens on the harpoon. ...is find some undiscovered shit and harpoon it.

Get out of the boat. Get out of the boat. So they decided to keep it to themselves, just try and knuckle down on the data that they collected from the sonar, from the different detection devices try and work out what was happening but after pretty much weeks of staring at these images they still had no idea what they were looking at and immediately had to get help and at this point in the story i was personally curious about who this team were yeah after all who is even looking for something like this in the first place let alone has the time and money to invest into a deep sea project.

Yeah, because this doesn't seem like something you just stumble across. No. They went to this place and searched for this object, it seems like. They call themselves Ocean X Team. Very cool. The X presumably stands for Xtreme or Explorer, but a very cool name either way. And they apparently, according to them have

been part of a number of big underwater missions to explore wrecks and found notoriety in 1997 when they dove into a shipwreck and found multiple bottles of champagne which had been trapped on the ocean floor for over 100 years these champagne bottles were perfectly preserved and were sold at Christie's auction and are said to be worth about 20k each today. Oh my god. This is like the underwater version of the Galactic 12. This is the Aquatic 12 right here we're dealing with, guys. Because this is what we've talked about on the show before. You know, when you're a treasure hunter, whether it's land, sea, or space, all you need is one big score to make everyone eat their words.

And you never have to work another day in your goddamn life. You know, if I took Sail Tomorrow, gave everyone two big old middle fingers, two big old finger dogs. Two dirty Harrys pointed in the air, firing wildly. And I said, I'm going to go find some treasure. I'm probably not going to find any treasure. Probably not. But all I need is one big score. And I come back with, well, let's face it. I'd probably come back with a couple of barnacles and a sunburn.

Of course. But if I came back with a bottle of sea champagne, I wouldn't know whether to chug it or sell it. It doesn't even need to be sea champagne. If you ride back into port captain jack sparrow style your boat sinking as you float back in dark but with a glass of champagne in the other hand everyone's gonna be like hey he had a pretty good time things went fine he actually didn't i mean he lost the boat which i think was his dad's worth

way more than the champagne which looked like it was just a regular bottle of champagne He drank to survive and filled with seawater to bring back to shore Cuz now that I'm looking at it. He's clearly blind Can't see what's going on. He's gone gray I got home by following the North Star as the Sun you've been staring at the Sun for days You got home by being dragged back to shore by the lifeguards. Thought it was Poseidon herself. Her name's Susan. She's been a lifeguard for 13 years now. Right. P-Susan. But what about the tempting siren with her call?

That was a walrus that you made out with 30 feet from the shore. Not far at all. You've been in the harbor for three weeks. You barely went to sea. I think you just wanted to f*** a walrus. Ah, she slaps hard, but she means well. It was hard not to fall for such firm tusks. But you're totally right. Weather, land, sea, air.

I think that's the army's slogan but if you have a big win in any one of those categories it's a success you're gonna have notoriety for reference here is a picture of uh peter lindbergh from ocean x team they've got cool branded diving suits wow okay so this is way more recent than i thought it was what year did you say this was so they found the champagne in 1997 and this story takes place in 2011 oh my god okay so wait because i'm looking at the radar picture and i think in my head i see old fuzzy black and white right right jurassic times yeah i mean the picture you just showed me it looks like wait is that a photoshop it doesn't look like he's actually there yeah that's like a promotional video kind of still yeah that's not what i was expecting at all.

I was expecting like a faded expedition picture or something. No, this is all super recent. Okay, okay. So basically, this big success, finding the champagne and auctioning it for very high prices, gave them the ability and funding to do more unusual missions from then on. And for once, the press was really picking up on this story from the sonar. The Daily Mail and other highly legitimate news sources broke the story in 2012, basically claiming they had found the Millennium Falcon itself at the bottom

of the ocean. No. And it really was worldwide. These guys made a documentary about this whole mission and they show some of the news coverage and it was crazy They were getting like their website was receiving like a quarter million Hits a day they were getting like tens of thousands of messages a day like Russia today all sorts of world stations were covering this Buckle up Star Wars nerds. You're gonna like this one As the wreckage of a crashed spaceship. It just exploded. We kind of locked up the Pandora box.

They came across something unusual. The only problem was the scientific community were not very on board with what Ocean X and the media were speculating. Instead, they claimed that this was, in all likelihood, some sort of natural rock formation. Of course, Ocean X hit back and said, what about the square shapes, the hard lines, the circular shapes, there's a bit that apparently looks like a staircase. The tail as well, that you mentioned? Exactly, the tail. So now, with the world watching, Ocean X had to defend themselves and get to the bottom of this, literally, to work out if what they found was paranormal

or not. So they put together another deep sea mission with a team of divers. The Aquatic 12. Except this time, they managed to reach the site of this mysterious underwater UFO. And once there, they successfully collected samples to bring back to the lab. And at this point, the samples were taken to Stockholm University, where one professor of geology, Volker Bruchert, analyzed their sample. Volker announced that he was surprised to find that the sample was a large black rock that on closer investigation appeared to be volcanic in origin he speculated that it may have been formed during the ice age and may have been shaped by glaciers

surrounding the baltic sea carving up the sea floor although bruchert didn't rule out that the rock formation could be covering up something artificial especially if the artificial object was old too i love the way that they dove down to prove to everyone that it was in fact an alien craft picked up a rock brought the rock to the top of the ocean made a conscious decision to send that rock to a lab oh yeah because i feel like if i found just went down there and it was all rocks i'm not bringing anything back up right i might just stay down there see how long i can wait it out hopefully that everything's blown over by the time i get back up to shore because i assume they were doubling down pretty hard but they were like well you know

i'm a scientist and i believe that uh i actually don't think that it was a rock formation well i've seen the scans mr scientist and i know a goddamn spaceship when i see one you son of a bitch and i will bet my children's lives that when i come back up from the great abyss i will have a radar from space a laser from the fucking moon okay any one of those things would be fine a button from the desk okay the laser from the moon is fine and i will come back and you know what what i'm gonna put it on your grave what i'm gonna you're gonna be are you gonna kill me you're you're when by the time i get back up there okay it's gonna be you what i come get the evidence what i come back with is gonna make your heart stop okay right sir so you're not threatening me that's probably good anyway get ready to eat

your words okay dives down someone's like he forgot his tank caught immediately in one of the um the beer can plastic wrappings around his neck how those are for the fish get caught in those science bitch throw me a line here with your weak little arms yeah it had to be an awkward moment when the first divers came up from the ocean's uh surface just burst through the water and everyone's crowded around the boat to see what they've got they're like we've got it everyone is he holding a rock that's a rock right i've got it can you see it's magnificent what kind of alien technology there's literal barnacles on that rock so needless to say the media 180'd on this story claiming the whole thing was debunked that ocean x team were losers and the

whole thing was a scam and of course at this point ocean x team have zero cash left to finance another dive of course but they do maintain that another dive and more research is needed to fully understand what's going on down there which is why they've made a documentary about the whole thing and i believe are currently in the middle of making a tv show about this case also to try and build up some more interest in exploring this site because i watched this documentary and that's one of the things they they talk about is despite you know having some success having some funding having some money it's so incredibly expensive to do a dive like that just this small research vessel with a kind of small crew and a few rovers and different

sonar devices i think they said costs 20 000 euro day, which ironically is the same price as a bottle of one of their champagne bottles. So I think this research trip we talked about where they recovered the rocks from the bottom of the sea, that cost about €100,000 to do. So you can kind of understand why they aren't going down there every weekend. It's probably a bit like, you know when a film director say i forget which film director says it but it's like i do one for them and then one for me yeah so it's kind of like i'll do one blockbuster that makes all the cash yeah and then i direct one movie that i want to make that sure won't deliver maybe the goods and won't make that much money but it's what i

want to do so i feel like these guys ocean x they need to do one for them they need to like go for a sure thing go to the titanic or something you know pick up some more balls of champagne yeah the nine to five get a couple bucks and then one for them go back to your rock pick up a couple more rocks for all i care have a blast having to pick up as many rocks as you want the the king of doing the one for them, one for himself, is, of course, James Cameron. Yeah. I think we've talked about it before, but James Cameron will make, say, Avatar, one of the highest grossing movies of all time. The highest grossing movie of all time.

Still. And then his next project will be hunting for Atlantis for National Geographic. So I got to clap that one out. Yeah. He's really flying the flag for the paranormal nation. Yeah. I think, isn't he, he'll then go do an action movie. And then one of his other projects was, I think, diving further to the ocean, further

into the ocean than anyone had ever dove before. Yeah. It's ridiculous. Yeah. Pretty cool. the ocean than anyone had ever dove before yeah it's ridiculous yeah pretty cool i mean it's sad that there's that kind of money for films and not actual scientific investigation yeah it's a weird yeah it's a weird combo where if you want to get important scientific work done you've got to have a scientific mind but also the mind that creates avatar yeah i've got to be a brilliant filmmaker and a scientist it's kind of like wasn't it

interstellar that had uh to date the most accurate depiction of a black hole right ever done because it took like so x amount of computers and graphics cards to like even render this insane image yeah that of course no one's gonna give that money to a scientist but they'll give it to matthew mcconaughey and christopher nolan for it to look dope yeah which is so sad i think nasa need to be funding more expeditions with matthew mcconaughey nasa need to uh wake the f**k up because james cameron actually approached nasa saying can i put i want to make a movie about space can i put 3d cameras on your next like nasa probe and i think they agreed to it um in general yeah and then i think

as kind of timing and budget restrictions were tighter closer to the time they had to renege on it so it didn't happen but he did want to make a high definition 3d movie of like flying through space that would be incredible would have been dope as hell i love the idea of nasa like going to the american like the people who give out the budgets it's like we want to go to mars and like f**k off matthew mcconaughey wants to go to mars well shit brother how much does he need why didn't you say matthew how's that son of a b**ch doing Like I'm starting to see the problem with electing only Texans to run NASA. Yeah it's like

Matthew McConaughey needs to go to Mars Well I just got one question Does he need a co-pilot? Shoo shoo shoo shoo shoo There's a lot of expensive equipment upstairs. Please stop firing You killed a scientist up there. The

ceilings aren't thick. But no matter what OceanX teams say about what is still down there, we have to evaluate this case today based solely on the evidence that's in front of us. Sadly, we don't get to base conclusions on evidence that it's at the bottom of the ocean

undiscovered. Right. So let's deep dive on some of the possible paranormal explanations for what's happening here. Kaplush. Now, of course, the absolute most delicious explanation for what's happening is the Millennium Falcon is underwater. And we do know from Star Wars that like Luke Skywalker, spaceships do get stuck underwater and can be lifted out with the force. But the fact that the geologist said that this thing is made of literal rocks, or at least covered up by rock, means it's probably not a typical UFO. But does that mean it's not an ancient alien craft? The dates provided by the geologist,

i.e. somewhere in the late Ice Age, around 10,000 years ago plus, do line up with theories we've talked about in the past on this podcast about an ancient advanced civilization on Earth wiped out by the Younger Dryas comet impact. This is a potential explanation for Atlantis as well as ancient advanced technologies. Is it possible that there is an ancient craft buried under some Ice Age rock down there? Ah, okay, okay. So we're not looking at a ancient craft made from rock. We're looking at an ancient craft that through time has been encased in rock. Yeah. Although I don't want to throw out a rock craft either i i almost insist that you do before we progress any further i will entertain a lot of bullshit on the podcast but there i draw

the line they're not a fred flintstone-esque hovering craft where about two dozen alien legs come out of the bottom and run into space um that's very interesting hypotheses you know because because we have under there's underwater volcanoes yep and um some uh different ways in which an object at the bottom of the ocean could become encased in rock um but then that wouldn't i guess that if there's a trail behind the craft i guess the idea is that it crashed into the ocean, slid along the floor, and then was encased in the rock at some point. Over time, yeah. Yeah, rather than it just being a meteor that crashed into the ocean and then skid along the floor.

Oh, interesting. So you're saying this could just be of extraterrestrial origin, but just inert, like a meteor or asteroid. Absolutely, yeah. Interesting hypothesis. You're invited to an immersive listening party led by Rishi Keshe Herway, the visionary behind the groundbreaking Song Exploder podcast and Netflix series. This unmissable evening features Herway and Toronto Symphony Orchestra music director Gustavo Gimeno in conversation. Together, they dissect the mesmerizing layers of Stravinsky's

The Rite of Spring, followed by a complete soul-stirring rendition of the famously unnerving piece, Symphony Exploder, April 5th at Roy Thompson Hall. For tickets, visit TSO.ca. And I know the idea of an ancient craft buried under Ice Age rock is a very spicy hot take, but believe it or not I have an even hotter hot take. A nuclear take, if you will. Wind the clock back to World War II! Woah! At this time, the Baltic Sea created a natural boundary between the Allied Soviet Union, neutral Scandinavia, and the Axis powers of

the Third Reich. Meaning, the Baltic Sea became a hotspot of military activity vying to control the Baltic states. And whichever side had the most ROCK PLANES ruled the ocean. No! No! I said no to the rock planes! Why did you pretend to not have thought of that and then lead with that entire explanation? If you wanted to talk about the rock planes, you didn't need to throw us back to World War II. I just thought it was a more rocky time. It's believed that the Nazis constructed underwater structures to counter the

intelligence of the Allied Navy and potentially communication scrambling devices. Could this explain Ocean X team's comms going down right as they approach the alien, I mean, unidentified structure? Ah, so we're talking about like an underwater base here. Yeah, and this is a little less paranormal, but just more of a general mystery. It's kind of neat to think that there could be

some forgotten World War II relics of pretty advanced technology still scrambling communications to this day. Yeah. Well, I'm pretty sure I went on the line and said that the Nazis had a base in Antarctica. Or under the earth, yeah. Also, yeah, in the earth and probably on the moon,

which I think is a spaceship. Oh, wait, you think the moon? The moon is a spaceship, brother. I don't remember that. That's come to light in my recent investigations we'll get onto that later okay but so i mean a bottom of the ocean doesn't seem too weird to me yeah it's it's the tip of the iceberg to what we've talked about and it doesn't end there people have debated for a long time whether nazi forces had a flying saucer research program aka the foo fighters these were ufos seen by allied pilots during wartime believed to be

experimental crafts is it possible that one of these foo fighters is at the bottom of the ocean possibly could have been covered up in rocks in the last 70 years probably not granted oh yeah that's a good point have to be a lot of coincidences and i guess one of the last things i wanted to talk about in relation to this is another case that has parallels with the case of the baltic sea anomaly as this has come to be known as something we've talked about before and this is the yonaguni monument off the coast of japan now this is an underwater huge stone site. It's actually not very far underneath the water. I think it's like 25 meters underneath. You can easily dive down off the coast of Japan.

And it has stumped researchers for years. And people are very, very conflicted over what it means. And if you haven't seen it before, I'm going to show it to you right now. Oh, my gosh. So this is kind of alternative historian graham hancock diving off the coast of yonaguni and imagine you come across this it's like okay here we have basically some uh pillars underwater they're incredibly straight and precise yeah but you kind of think this isn't outside the realms of possibility of being a natural formation. Yeah, yeah.

It's, you know, it could have been caused by natural, I don't know, natural elements. But things heat up as we get a little further into the structure. Oh, yeah. Okay. We're seeing a lot of very hard, straight edges, corners at this point where, you know, this thing is, I don't understand what happens under the ocean. I think I've made that abundantly clear. But this does not look like it was made by Mother Nature's tender hands.

To describe what we're looking at here is the kind of staircase effect at these underwater ruins. There's a series of... I mean, these are amazingly rectangular pillars. Yeah. All laying on their side, kind of creating a staircase effect up out of the ocean. This doesn't look too deep either, as you said. Like, it looks like everything's being lit by sunlight. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's not like pitch black at all. I think, like I said, about 25 meters down. Yeah. You could easily scuba dive down there. Wow. So, if we have any listeners in Yonaguni, you know where to go. You could do some firsthand research for us.

But this is, I present this because this is a really similar example of an underwater feature, a genuine underwater feature made of rock. That's basically you have one community saying that this is absolutely natural rock formation. And then another community saying this does not show any signs of kind of the randomness of natural design this is much more a man-made looking and i think the millennium falcon in the baltic sea is an extreme example of that but there are other examples like this around the world the one in japan because it looks a little bit more ancient or megalithic obviously lends itself you could really imagine a civilization 10 000 years ago making something like that yeah the millennium falcon one though is a little bit

more confusing well it's a lot deeper down for a start and isolated but i think one thing i may be neglected to mention is that i can't speak exactly for that site but if we go back far enough in time you know you're talking 10 000 to 20 000 years ago the sea level would have been drastically different to the point where you could easily walk from scotland up to finland and and other parts of scandinavia right the sea level was much lower so it is possible like with our kind of claims of atlantis or here at yonaguni that these absolutely would have been above sea level of course going back far enough so roy i've thrown a few different paranormal explanations as well as a natural explanations at you are these natural formations are they paranormal in origin we may never know

but it's up to us to decide on behalf of the scientific community on behalf of the cowards that won't say yay or nay first of off, I just want to say bravo. I think the evidence for this week's case was fantastic. Folks, we've got audio recordings. We've got pictures. I've seen video footage of underwater exploration. Top tier, top tier evidence that, you know, we should bring ourselves to this standard every week,

you know, because I appreciate it. It makes it a lot more colorful and it edges me towards a stronger decision now is that decision now is that decision what we want or not that's right edges you closer to that golden yes we're all holding out for every week we all dream off we all see behind our eyes when we close our eyes at night when they dove down there to get evidence i would have probably preferred they come up empty-handed then come back up with a rock because what did the scientists say it just had extremely high levels of iron or zinc or no no they said it was well they said it was like a volcanic uh volcanic rock okay

that's really not what you want to hear because i think like because isn't it like meteorites that have a lot of iron or zinc or something like that often yeah they can be kind of have metals that's more in line with what you would want from something that came from outer space yeah because volcanic rock it comes from the ground folks it comes from the earth it's from here yeah it's the last kind of rock that you might come from a space volcano. That's entirely true. Maybe they run on lava. Maybe every spaceship is just a volcano that was freed from the Earth's core and just took off like a rocket. It's kind of rocket fuel.

It is in a weird way. But unfortunately, because they haven't been able to get the funding to return back to that spot, all we're left with is this strange radar scan and a rock and is that enough should that be enough to convince me that something is paranormal weirdly it's more than we've had for other things oh yeah but i know what you mean so someone pointed out in the um the this paranormal life uh facebook secret society i think we said that the highest level of paranormal evidence was a man's word. Oh, yeah. I remember that.

Which I think is definitely a step below an actual rock from a paranormal site. And that's not getting into the pyramid of truth that is upheld by hearsay, chatter, word of mouth. Talk, word of mouth. Rumors, I think, was in there somewhere as well. Yeah, it's a bit of a difficult one i think you know until they they take that second expedition when they get that funding and and go down there with today's technology i think until then i don't know if i

can confidently say that this is paranormal right there with you and i think we should give it the benefit of the doubt for today clap this one out with a couple yeses and and just you know they can just oh you misread they can just read that after the fact they can mail us the evidence and we'll just go cool we already give it a thumbs up no worries brother good work okay okay you're confident enough that ocean x are gonna prove that it's paranormal in their next expedition i think if our patreon starts popping off like their bottles of champagne we can finance we funded ourselves yeah listen up folks we need to ramp up the patreon monthly payments so we can get matthew mcconaughey to the bottom of the ocean okay if we're getting matthew we might need a bit more than 100k i think his retainer is about half a mil probably is probably is but we get cameron

on board worth it you get you get matthew oh so we need both okay we're gonna need a few mil we're gonna need a few mil folks a couple mil maybe you know what let's get tom holland in there as well we need that youthful vibe we're basically just building our own aquatic 12 at this point yeah sam jackson i think would do good down there as well. He's kind of level headed, level headed. I can see him in a submarine. Yeah,

for sure. Just send us the money first folks on a Patreon and we'll assemble the team. You can trust us to do that. And, uh, you know what? We'll even toss a little rock your way. That's compensation.

So, you know, you're only going to find rock. You'll, you'll get something in the range between, uh uh a rock and a space coin okay what's a space coin a coin from space right in the name right or it could be a bottle of sea champagne it could be could be a goddamn hook from a pirate's hand okay that's the thing about the ocean you don't know what's down there you just gotta go down there with an open mind and a shit ton of oxygen and have a great old time

a shit ton of money because a fish like to barter i hear what you're saying i hear what you're saying i've obviously put a lot of time into this i've put a lot of emotion into this frankly i'm very on board with uh peter and dennis are doing down there yeah i think they've done some great research i love their commitment uh to the cause they've done a lot of great dives they've had some successes some failures granted who hasn't but i know what you mean we're so close to cinching this as finding i mean jesus christ has that ever been done before a underwater ufo piece of evidence that would be something else but unfortunately they did kind of shoot their shot they got the chance they got the 100 g's to go down there and they swam back up with a rock they blew it which would imply with an opportunity that

massive and they them returning with a rock that there was nothing else to grab down there i mean it's supposed to be 180 foot across like yeah they had a lot to choose from i mean devil's advocate they're just divers they can't dig down get too far underneath any rock surface it's true yeah yeah that's a good point like i say uh the wookie and han might still be down there but they just didn't come they did kind of come back empty handed when it comes to paranormal solutions yeah so i think you know this was done recently their movie came out recently their tv show is on the way i'll probably link the documentary in the facebook group because i know some people want to see it

good shout if that tv show comes out if we if they can find the funding to go down there again more than willing to look at this again but for now we can't in good conscience uh give this a double yes i agree which means that it's a double no for now unfortunately christ alive we're on a a hot streak of ends just can't catch a break around these parts unbelievable but that makes that yes all the sweeter that really does doesn't it just if you are a member of OceanX team, get in touch. Let us know what you think about your discovery. This Paranormal Life podcast at gmail.com. As always, you can hit us up on the socials, twitter.com forward slash thisparalife, facebook.com forward slash thisparanormallife.

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Rob Hill robs pills but not from a hospital that's right, this is a regular old Robin Hood holy shite he quite brutally beats up drug dealers, takes their goods. Whoa. But then just sells them himself. Oh.

So it's not, he's still like giving to the poor, but it's like just selling drugs to homeless people. I think he's a cartel boss, probably. Yeah, I think that's what. I shouldn't have led with Robin Hood because Robin Hood like quite nobly. Noble characteristics. Yeah. Rob Hill is selling crack to homeless people. Yeah.

He's the problem. He is the problem. Yeah. But hey some of that money is coming back this way so keep on selling partner. Thanks also to Bianca Constance. Bianca you are a constant joy in my life. Whoa. And I just want to say

thank you Bianca. Bian say thank you, Bianca. Bianca. Thank you, Bianca. That kind of works. That's pretty good. Thank you, Bianca, for being a constant joy in my life.

Use the last take. That was a better one. Thank you, Bianca. Shit, I f***ed it on the last one again. Thanks also to Eric Jarrettson. Hey, where does Eric keep his things?. Thanks also to Eric Jarrettson. Hey, where does Eric keep his things? I don't know.

Jarrettson. Keeps everything in a jar. It's bizarre. I didn't even... That barely made sense. Jarrettson. The problem is that he also keeps things in jars that absolutely should never enter a jar.

His cat, when he goes to work he puts his cat in a jar quite a large jar a massive jar yeah like some kind of old-timey doctor that keeps weird things in jars yeah eric some things are good in there like rice flour dry goods in your kitchen yeah don't keep living things in there i also saw you keep your jam in a bag that's the one thing that really should be in a jar maybe just do some googling and then but keep listening to the show google some stuff

you got some things to work out buddy I saw him bringing his lunch to work it was spaghetti in a knapsack it was insane so odd thanks also to Moth Hayes always going towards the light if it isn't Moth Hayes flutter flutter the light if it isn't Moth Hayes.

Flutter, flutter, little moth. It's not moth. Here's some yarn to nibble. It's M-O-F-F. What? It's not moth, like a moth. It's moth. Who's moth?

M-O-F-F. The guy we're shouting out. Moth. Moth Hayes. So this isn't my buddy Moth? No. If he was your buddy, you'd know his name. Oh, yeah, I guess.

Well, I have a friend called Moth Hayes. Oh, wait, this guy is a f***ing moth. I'm looking at his profile picture. Moth the Moth? Oh, my God. Flutter, flutter, little moth. Thanks for listening. Come towards the light.

It is our Patreon, little moth. Thank you for your support. I don't know what moth... I don't know what moths really give. You know how, like, bees give honey? Well, I don't know if theyoths uh really give you know how like bees give honey well i don't know they give it but we certainly take it for sure yeah i don't know what i can take from a moth yeah all i know i guess i'm taking about five bucks a month which is pretty good and all he asks for in return is some clothes to eat so thank you for your support moff thanks also to rumple foreskin that is insane

what what parents would give their child the name rumple it's ridiculous rumple i mean the kids are gonna be teasing him he must have been bullied his entire life oh rumple rumple jumple i bet he's begging for the day he can grow up and just become Mr. Foreskin. Absolutely. Leave that dark past behind. Leave those Rumpel days behind. And he can just marry someone, start a family, just be Mr. and Mrs. Foreskin with two little Foreskins running around. Perfect.

All those horrible Rumpel nicknames behind him. Listen, keep listening to the podcast Rumpel. Keep your chin up, Rumpel. The sun's gonna rise. Thanks also to Brooke Martin. Brooke Martin, the broke Martian. That's right, the only extraterrestrial to ever crash to Earth and be so goddamn poor they can't pay their way off this dust ball.

They only crashed because they ran out of gas. Space juice. Crashed straight into the White House, has been working there as a janitor trying to get off this shit planet. Which is ridiculous because those Martian crafts run on basically pure light. You'd have to be trying to crash the bish. Not to mention a single thread of Martian hair is worth a trillion dollars. hair is worth a trillion dollars look i appreciate that you're giving us this money every month but if you need to take a couple months off to get some space juice in your spacecraft be my guest

be my guest and then once you get to your home planet you can send us send us any more but i guess thank you for the support thanks also to rob hewitt rob hewitt also known as rob the snob well well well. If it isn't you, you smug little son of a bitch. You're getting really emotional about this. You come into my podcast studio, Robert. He didn't come anywhere. The Snobbert, and think you can just turn your little nose up at me? Fine.

What did he do? You're watching what he's doing. You're watching what he's doing. This is what he does. What? He supports you financially? watching what he's doing You're watching what he's This is what he does What? He supports you financially? Yeah, he supports me financially He pays me a bit of rent money every month

Okay, does he at least like Lord it over you? Does he like No Make fun of you? That's what he does That's what he does He just gives it

Just Won't even say a goddamn word Nice Doesn't even ask for it back Does anyone else think he's a snob other than you? He's not paying anyone else you don't understand man you don't understand he paid for me to go to university right he paid off my car loans unbelievable he sends me a little wrap sandwich for lunch every day every day he doesn't even say a word snobbert this This guy. You sound ingratial. You're the ass. This primo dickwad. Okay, that's enough.

I won't stand for this against Rob's name. Take your money back, Snobbert. Wait, I'm actually pretty broke, Snobby. I'm going to need a bonus this month. So if you could just... So you rely on him, actually. Pretty heavily. Okay.

Pretty heavily. If I could have... I'm going to need like three sandwiches this week as well, because I'm burning through them. You said he put you through uni. Didn't you do, like, three different degrees? Three different degrees, yeah. And a lot of sandwiches I went through as well while I was there, because I was borderline selling them at one point. So you were selling.

You weren't borderline selling them. Sure. Why not? You got me. You happy now, Robert? You've done it again i'm gonna thank you on rory's behalf robert you son of a bitch thanks also to maizey and hughes maizey and hughes sells crazy van booze what the van booze my first question too my friend as this

rusty ass ice cream truck pulled out to the front of my house i said i'll have a 99 and she said no you won't you'll have van boos weirdly still in a cone which immediately sogged up and almost all the the van boos because it was incredibly high proof alcohol too oh yeah oh yeah you kind of have to use the cone as like a funnel and she you put the cone in your mouth yeah she pours the van booze which in hindsight i think was maybe just gasoline because it was just booze for a van so it was the petrol she put petrol in an ice cream jesus and you said it was an ice cream truck but i think it it looks like more of a van with just a crudely uh scratched actually with a key or something scratched ice cream cone to the side yeah it was pretty pretty grisly but

she got my money and now she's giving that money back and i appreciate it i guess business is booming uh thanks mizian thanks also to absinthe i don't know what i'd do without you absinthe since you came into my life i've realized that you matter a lot to me. And since, then, I never want to let you go, Absinthe. I'm drunk on you. Which is actually quite a bit, I think, pretty poetic. I'm drunk on you, Absinthe. That's a problem.

And since... You have a problem. Well, it's not a problem if it's a party, alright? And I've been saying that for years yeah you you call everything a party you call uh rehab a party you've called it's called prehab it's the rager before you go to rehab actually it's pretty dope not how it works you don't have a big blowout before you gotta get dirty before you get clean brother okay thank you absent thanks also william saunders they say where william saunders billions wander this guy is a walking cash machine just pissing cash wherever he goes leaking out of them it's

not even on like like high value stuff he's not at casinos gambling at high stakes he's just buying snacks constantly just very low expenditure buying a lottery tickets bizarrely he already has enough money um just just sometimes he'll just like a little mouse trail just to throw it out just like yeah dish it out have people following him around in the street it's like how they say you know Just like, yeah, dish it out. Have people following him around in the street. It's like how they say, you know, Bill Gates is so rich, it would cost more money for him to stop and pick up $5 note on the floor than it would for him to just keep walking.

This guy, this is how you know you're next level rich. He's shooting five bucks out of every orifice of his body as he walks. He's dispensing money as he walks. To use another analogy, they say that if a rat doesn't gnaw on something, its own teeth will bust through its brain, killing it. Is that true?

William, if he doesn't expel money at an extremely high rate, it will kill him. He will be weighed down, literally six feet under. So thank you for dispensing some of that money into the pockets of the paranormal peasants. Thanks also to

Simon La Liberté. Screw Diamond in the rough. I want Simon in the rough. He's that one friend that's always gonna be there for you when things get hard. When your wife leaves, when the kids are taken from you. You know who you've always got waiting for you? Simon. hard when your wife leaves when the kids are taken from you you know he boys got waiting for you simon that's very sweet yeah although i would also take a diamond in

the rough diamonds can get you through some pretty hard times too yeah maybe susan wouldn't have left actually maybe the kids wouldn't have turned on papa if he'd actually found a diamond in the rough because the kids hate simon the kids hate Simon, and Simon's why the wife left. He took your wife? He took my wife and my kids. So you don't want Simon. I want the diamond, actually, Simon. Thanks also to Neil Monday.

Call me Auntie Garfield, because I love Monday. Okay. I'm saying I like him. Okay. Not like, because Garfield hates Mondays. That's pretty cool. Call me Auntie Garfield. F*** lasagna. See, because I'm Auntie I like him. Okay. Not like, because Garfield hates Mondays. That's pretty cool. Call me Auntie Garfield.

F*** lasagna. See, because I'm Auntie Garfield. And he loves lasagna and he hates Mondays. But that doesn't relate to Neil anymore. Right. Well, I'm just saying, call me Auntie Garfield. Because bark bark. I love Neil Mondays.

How's that? Because now I'm a dog. And he was a f***ing cat. Are you getting this? Are you getting the Auntie Garfield thing? Thanks, Neil. Thanks, Neil. Jesus Christ. You try something and it just just you put yourself out there sometimes and nothing they give you nothing back i don't like mondays tell me neil thanks also to mike piro mike piro the

human churro that was right he got into a gruesome accident at Charlie's Chocolate Factory where his head just freaking dunked into the barrel of molten chocolate. He came out chocolate topped, but crispy all over. So dead? Yeah, he was almost killed on impact.

Christ alive. It's an unbelievably insensitive nickname. Yeah, the human churro is actually, it's quite a colorful way of describing what was quite a gruesome accident that closed the factory for years. Of course. Yeah.

Willy Wonka almost went out of business. Mostly because they shipped the churro. Someone bought the churro. Which is so illegal to do that. To buy a six foot two churro is clearly a man. So I'm sorry, Mike, that you had to go through that. But RIP, big buddy. Or RIC, rest in churro.

I hope you're feeling better. I don't think they led churros into heaven. So I hope you're doing all right down there. He's down there in the big old deep fat fryer that is hell. And thanks lastly, but not least leastly to Joshua Escola. You know, Joshua Escola is actually the person who Coca-Cola is named after. It was originally called Joshua Escola. It wasn't, let's be honest, it wasn't making very many sales.

No, that's way too lame. It's not a very catchy name for a delicious beverage. But it turned out the cola bit was really what was cinching it for people so they cut off the rest of it uh and then then they added cocaine so they added the coke on the line of course uh and that sales just skyrocketed at that point yeah um but because at the time they were like no one's gonna have ever drink this long a bev like this long named a beverage yeah uh of course this was years before dr pepper came around where they actually gave a drink a profession title that was weird a phd which is pretty insane yeah they didn't

know that was gonna work they were like they people wanted to be cool they wanted to have cocaine in it and they wanted to be cola escola it is it to have cocaine in it. And they want it to be cola. Es cola. It is. Everyone's doing cocaine. Cocaina. So we need to have drinks that do cocaine too. Whereas, yeah, Joshua, it was just a bit too 70s, wasn't it?

Yeah. But you can still buy the original retro bottles with the full name on eBay, I believe. They go for the smooth price of 20 grand. Holy shite. Similar to that of a sea champagne so uh an equally rare item incredible and ironically most of it was dumped at the bottom of the sea after the name change so there's probably a few out there for ocean team x to find that's the shout outs for this week if you're still waiting on a shout out please do hang in there we've got a little bit of a backlog as usual but we are getting there slowly but surely thanks for being so patient with us hope you enjoyed this week's episode we'll be back on tuesday for a brand new paranormal tale bye-bye

um and i'm looking for the sky to save me I love that song. You can tell. Flying.