This Paranormal Life - #124 The Falcon Lake Incident

Episode Date: August 6, 2019

We all know it's hard to get good evidence when it comes to UFO sightings, but what if the evidence you needed was burned into your own chest? This week we find out what really happened at Falcon Lake in 1967.Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Could a ghost hug another ghost? If Leonardo da Vinci was such a great inventor, why didn't he invent something to keep him alive? All of these questions you can find the answer to on This Paranormal Life! Hello everyone, welcome back to This Paranormal Life, the best comedy paranormal podcast based out of this bedroom. My name is Roy Powers. This guy's name is Kate Greer. And if you're new to the show, every week what we do is we investigate a brand new paranormal tale, case claim, story, whatever it is,

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This guy's just knocking it out of the park every week. So many good submissions these days. This one is from Emily Morin Fournier, which I hopefully pronounced right. She emailed into thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com and she said, hello, I'm a big fan of the podcast and enjoy the weekly investigations and jokes. One well-documented mystery I think you might like to investigate is the Falcon Lake incident. This is an alleged UFO encounter that happened in Falcon Lake, Canada, and there are pictures of the encounter. That's great great i'm not quite sure what i

believe but i think you'd find the case really interesting best emily thanks emily great email i emailed back she didn't respond i assume she's been taken right this was her last correspondence we're narcs we hand over people's personal information as soon as they don't hey hey hey no remember to send in your i forgot who's listening remember to send in your the longest con of all time to do 120 episodes of a paranormal podcast to convince people to cia projects have existed people i mean that is true i think at one point point the CIA was funding a woman to give drugs to a dolphin. Oh, yeah. She ended up having sex with it.

I think, yeah, I think they were funding her to jack off the dolphins more than that. So you're right. This probably wouldn't be the strangest CIA operation. But this isn't a CIA operation, guys. We're on the good side, the side of truth and light and justice and freedom and power and money. And I'm here today to drop a big old T-bomb right on the plate. I think you're back in the military somehow. It started with truth and light and it ended with you dropping a bomb.

Myself and Officer Kit have never been involved in a CIA operation. I mean Lieutenant, I mean, Lieutenant. I mean, Kit. Kit, please tell these people we're not narcs. Affirmative. We are one of you, the public. I love a beer and love Island. Let's go, local sports team.

All right, we dilly-dallied enough. Let's get into this bad boy. It's 1976, and one of Canada's finest police officers is out on patrol in the wilderness of Winnipeg. What makes him the finest? He's on the force. He's the hottest? Yeah, he's gorg- he's a ten- he's an absolute ten. Seven foot one

muscle bond. When all of a sudden, a man bursts out of the trees. He's out of breath, injured, and his clothes are badly burned. The finest officer pulls his handgun. You've got ten seconds, bud, or else I'm blasting your ass back into that bush. The police officer goes to help the stranger,

but the man cries for him to stay away because he's radioactive. Surely not. Who is this strange man? What happened to him? Let's hashtag investigate. Surely not. amateur geologist who enjoyed prospecting in his spare time mining for silver and quartz a regular old treasure hunter so what do you say his day job was again uh he was a he's an industrial mechanic i feel like i feel like that's a tiring enough job as it is uh that's true to not get into mining for minerals but also if you're gonna take your equipment from work from your work as an industrial mechanic and use that in your spare time.

Yeah. Mining for diamonds is a pretty good reason, a pretty good thing to do with that equipment. You're probably not going to go to a ballet class. No. You're right. But Stefan didn't realize that the treasure he would come across that day would scar him for life. This is not a treasure then. And the only thing he should have mined

was his own damn business. Stefan was walking alone through the woods by Falcon Lake when he heard a strange rustling in some of the nearby bushes. He cried out, hello? But there was no response. Then the 51 year old claims he heard a quiet honking sound. Then more. Then more. Then suddenly a large gaggle of geese burst out from the bushes, honking like mad. There's not many things that honk, so that makes sense. He should have known, I think, by first honk that it was going to be a goose. But that doesn't mean that's not something to be afraid of.

Because I don't know if you have had many experiences with geese. But those motherfuckers are fearless. Yeah, I mean, they're pretty aggressive. But this guy's an industrial mechanic who also hunts for diamonds in his spare time. He's probably got a wrench he could bash the geese with. That's true. That's true. But you also, you can't mine a goose.

And this is a whole gaggle of them i i honestly think because you know everyone bigs up like oh i want the heart of a lion you should ask for the heart of a goose yeah fearless creatures a goose lives like it's never gonna die that's 100 every day it goes and gets that bread. Goose is what you... A lion? Lions are almost extinct. Those sons of bitches... Did you see what happened to Mufasa? You don't want the heart of that son of a bitch. He got trampled by wilder beasts.

Lions are, you know, we've seen the Lion King. Lions are out there, you know, spending time with their families, hanging out in clouds, philosophizing. Geese, on the other hand they're like bane they're born in the darkness born in the swamps uh and they just honk their way to the top to the killing anything that gets in their way honestly a genie pops out of a lamp and says three wishes what do you want i'm going straight off the bat heart of a goose feet of a goose i want the resourcefulness of a rat. Because those sons of bitches don't die either.

They're pretty much apocalypse proof. And maybe like the strength of a beetle. Because that's the trifecta right there. The genie doesn't know what to do. He just turns you into a beetle. So you could just ask to be resourceful. But Stefan, as you said, he's a brave guy with a lot of tools. He laughs off the encounter and he went on to continue his prospecting.

But what had startled these geese to begin with? Stefan heard a low buzzing noise and looked upward towards the sky to try and see what it was. Through the trees, he could make out the faint red glow of two strange cigar-shaped objects. One of the crafts slowly descended towards the rocks below, while the other craft floated ominously for a short period before taking off. Now, Stefan was an intelligent guy, but he was still only an industrial mechanic. You know, he wasn't qualified by any standard to have a guess at what this thing was, beyond his pay grade. But from what he saw, he assumed it must have been some sort of experimental U.S. military craft.

It's a good guess. It's quite a logical place to go to in his defense. So for the meantime, he kept his distance. Now with the craft in sight, Stefan sat for a half hour and sketched out its appearance wow yeah so he had a lot of like this guy he's pretty resourceful and he's making some rational decisions he's he's like okay this must be some he's thinking logically it must be some sort of experimental military craft i'm just gonna keep my distance draw a little picture so if anyone asks i'm like bam this is what it looked like. Big mistake, punk.

They pull a revolver on him. A space gun, yeah. You're taking unauthorized sketches of military technology. Along with the sketches, he also made notes mentioning the whirring sound of motors, hot air, and the alarming smell of sulfur. Continuous honking. Oh, no, that's the oh no that's that was the geese again yeah sure sure pitter patter of little gray feet on the that was oh yeah that was a goose they are gray but still goose feet goose feet the aliens eggs massive and white you know what the thing wasn't cigar shaped it was goose shaped of course it was goose shaped i'm like this is his sketch of

the craft just a picture of a goose what had startled these geese it was a bigger goose a bigger goose it was a swan actually he came out of nowhere i actually have a picture of the um the craft that he drew here the sketching with his i would love to see this this is a great case because i have so much evidence to show you, and I feel like we haven't had that in a while. So thank you so much for emailing this case in. Take a little look here at the sketch that he drew that night. Ooh.

Wow. It's a good thing you shouted out Da Vinci at the top of this episode because this is a very distinguished sketch. He's gone into great detail. he's done some tasteful shading yeah his uh charcoal pencils here and then he's done in cursive that kind of uh very very fancy sort of shorthand cursive that's impossible for anyone but the writer to read i don't know if i would describe this as cigar shaped yeah i mean gun to my gun to my head. I would say he drew a UFO. It's a straight up UFO.

It's a flying saucer for sure. Yeah. It's a very, very typical flying saucer. I don't necessarily know what kind of cigars Stefan is smoking. He's smoking blunts. I think he's trying to be Frank here. I mean,

I guess the idea, if you imagine a classic UFO, it's like bulging in the middle and thinner at the edges yeah uh i guess cigars are a little bit like that do you know what these notes say or mean um some like measurements about the craft like guessing the distances some are just mentioning the tiny little finer details but i think a lot of it is mentioning the sound of the motors the hot air the smell of sulfur. Little details like that that are actually just emanating from the craft rather than about the craft itself.

Got it. That makes sense. Now, despite some outlandish claims so far, this is where our story gets crazy. Stefan noted, which you can see in the illustration, that there was a door open on one of the sides, and inside he could make out the glow of bright lights inside the craft. Now, before he could approach, he heard two voices by the craft. Stefan, being a mechanic and quite an educated man, cried out, I don't know what his accent is, so I'm just gonna have a swing of something. Do you Yankee boys need some mechanical help don't call them yankee boys well i think that's a a he's a dig at a military profession gone i'm like a yankee boy really because we're in canada if someone's got an experimental death

craft call him a yankee boy you need little yankee yankee doodle bastards need some help with your with your toy plane i got a light for your cigar eh it's like you you're out for a hike in a lochita martin stealth craft ripples through it a thousand miles per hour comes with screeching halt and lands it's a x-men plane uh armed military guards come down. You're like, any of you f***ing rednecks need a hand from a real man? But the voices just stopped talking. So Stefan decided to ask them again in his native language, Polish. I said, do you Yankee bastards need some help lighting your cigar still no response he tried again in russian and german wow he really is educated yeah he is but still nothing so he decided to check he's by

the way he's just showing off what's the chances that it's one of these languages. He tried again in Russian, German, sign language, Morse code, smoke signals, text, WhatsApp, Snapchat, Tinder, Hong. Well, he decided to check this thing out for himself. So he slowly walked over to investigate. The craft's metal was smooth with no seams or bolts at all. The light from inside the ship was bright enough that he had to put on his welding goggles that he used to protect his eyes when prospecting. When he moved away from the open door, Stefan said that three panels slid across and sealed it shut. He couldn't help himself and he wanted to touch the side of the craft. But when he did, the fingertips of his gloves melted on his hand what yeah this thing is burning up hot hot hot too hot to handle he jumped backwards as the humming of the ship

grew louder and it began to spin counterclockwise he said the last thing he noticed was a grid-like panel with holes in it pointing in his direction and then bam he was struck in the chest by a blast of fiery hot air that threw him backwards and set his clothes on fire holy shit i'm assuming this is the craft getting the f out of t okay so he was basically like standing with his face to the rocket launcher of a nasa craft exactly just poking around touching it yeah right is there a t minus two seconds to lift a full-on countdown i mean he saw the door shut and the craft rotate and this thing just blasted him in the face i could barely even handle it when i open up the oven too quick and I get blasted by my pizza air. Blasted with potato smiley face air.

I just can't wait, man. Those chicken nuggets have been in there three minutes and I'm thinking it's worth the food poisoning at this point if I just get the nuggets, open up that oven door, blasted five feet backwards into the dishwasher just so i could get a taste of those sweet sweet nuggets are we still talking about the craft no we're very much talking about last tuesday oh uh which where i was you probably noticed the the scorch marks of my body against the wall i thought it would cook the nuggets faster if i jacked up the heat it was 20 minutes on 200 so i thought it would be two minutes on 2000 that math was wrong um the the nuggets were hot to touch and they burnt the fingertips of my glove to my finger your oven goes up to 2000 i have no idea actually if you're interested i have a sketch of the nuggets that i

did uh 30 minutes before placing them in the in the oven i'm sorry let me get that straight you had you sketched the nuggets for a good 30 minutes but prior to cooking the frozen nuggets yeah i thought you were so desperate to eat the nugs that you cranked the oven to 2000 well i thought it was gonna cook them in two minutes remember so i thought I had 30 minutes to sketch the nuggets. You had a decent amount of time to cook and eat the nugs. Yeah I had a decent amount of time I could have cooked and eaten the nuggets in a normal amount of time but then I wouldn't have these sketches would I? It's a cigar. It's a cigar. Stefan was obviously in shock, dizzy, hurt, and in disbelief.

He stumbled through the forest. And this is where the story began, when he bumped into the mounted police officer out on patrol. Now, sometime later in the story, Stefan was eventually treated and hospitalized for burns to his chest. But the strangest part was that the burn resembled a bizarre grid-like pattern what yeah so i mean usually someone claims they've been blasted by a grid-like shape on an alien craft and they are burnt you know if it's not just a big patch and if it is a big patch on their shirt you might have some questions but i need to show you the burn marks on this man forgot you said we got a ton of evidence we have photos of the uh the burn marks on his clothes that caught

fire and the burn marks on his actual chest in the hospital as i explained in previous episodes i am more than happy to uh go out on a limb on a conclusion with uh simply hearsay rumors and such the golden pyramid the golden pyramid of truth but if we do have evidence i'm happy to see that too we'll take a look at this we have two images here one is stefan's undergarment his vest which he was wearing underneath a striped shirt this seems to have taken the brunt of the blow this thing is blown to smithereens really a charred around the outside as if someone has just held a naked flame to it it's blackened but then right in the middle there's kind of like as if someone toasted his vest in a waffle iron kind of pattern yeah that's a good way to describe it actually it's a bit square but with the kind of

grid like holes in the middle and then a bit square but with the kind of uh grid-like holes in the middle and then a bit more disturbingly underneath that we have stefan in presumably his hospital bed uh with his bare chest lying there and the same grid-like pattern is very clearly visible on his stomach i don't know what to make of that that is nuts never seen anything like that it's nice having evidence isn't it i mean like it's like a whole nother show this is crazy i can just end the show now it is genuinely quite hard to imagine you know we're not doctors but it's hard to imagine what kind of device what kind of impact what kind of device, what kind of impact, what kind of blast would cause that? You would imagine anything hot enough to cause that degree of burn to literally singe his clothes would leave a more generalized burn in and around the focus of the burn on his body.

Yeah. Whereas what we have is just an incredibly precise as if he just, like I say, fell asleep on a waffle iron. A hundred percent, yeah. It just perfectly burned into his chest. I mean, yeah, the pattern is so strange. Because as we said, I mean, the shirt is pretty much obliterated. But then when you look at his actual body, the burn marks are almost like pinpoints.

It's like laser. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know of any type of device or military craft that, I don't know, would have a propulsion system where the trail would be so finely defined. It's very strange. But hell, there's a lot of military crafts that I don't know about and we don't know about. So, who knows, folks? I don't know about and we don't know about. So who knows, folks?

Well, despite the bizarre nature of his injuries, Stefan eventually made a full recovery, which is great, and lived until 1999, until the age of 83. To the very day he died, Stefan continued to claim that his story was true. Now, when his son was asked about his father's story,

he said, if you asked him what it was he saw, he could describe it in intimate detail. But he would never say it was definitely extraterrestrials because there was no evidence to prove that. He might ask, what do you think I saw? But right up until he died, his story never changed one iota, nothing about it or how he told told it i thought you were about to tell me on it on his deathbed however he said they were f***ing greys the world has to know what a way to go out that's incredible your wife leans in you know she's like come come closer please i'm i'm weak yes honey what is it come closer i have. I'm weak. Yes, honey, what is it? Come closer. I have something important to tell you.

Of course. I know you're going to miss your son. My final word? No, it's not about the boy. Oh, it's about me. Oh, my darling. Oh, I love you too. You're great.

Okay, I love you too. But no, it's not about... Actually, it's not about that. It's even more important. Your father, perhaps. I know your relationship with him was rocky from the start. Yeah, he was a bit of a bitch from time to time. Don't swear on your deathbed.

Your son is right beside you. He's very young. Oh, Jesus. Where did he get the cover? Well, I'm very weak. Would you... Let me get it out already. You swore again, baby.

Jesus. Very impressionable. I'm gonna die soon. Mama, what's Papa f***ing papa talking about not see what you've done up stefan they're great they're great all right kid this seems like a good time for us to take a step backwards please let's look at this step back from the extraterrestrial craft that's about to blast our faces off what are what are what are we thinking so far it's a pretty remarkable story but for once we actually have some evidence which is refreshing

hold down you know makes some of the statements that uh stefan is making some of these claims i don't know quite strong definitely uh i mean the burns alone we don't that often come across bodily harm uh that is documented at a kind of medical level. He was admitted to hospital for these injuries. And it kind of leaves you with two scenarios when something like that happens, where we have to consider, is this a real paranormal phenomenon? This is what happened to him exactly as described. And he was blasted by a UFO causing these burns. Or is the eyewitness testimony here is the person crazy enough that

they have either willingly or accidentally hurt themselves in this way yeah to make their story more believable and what i would say about that is it seems like a stefan has a good character reference he held on like a great career. His family believed him. He never really purported to have a crazy paranormal experience. He just told people plainly and clearly what happened to him. Yeah. He didn't evangelize this or try to make money out of it.

Yeah. I mean, as far as a person goes, an industrial mechanic, I'm sure that takes a pretty high level of intelligence. We already know he can speak like five languages which either means he's smart or a spy and i think actually previous to being an industrial mechanic he was a uh in the military oh wow that's another twist yeah which doesn't come into it too much but i mean it shows you that he's not like some crackpot in the woods drinking moonshine and uh claiming that he punched bigfoot but you said this was this is canada isn't it this is canada so he was in the canadian military which is a whole other

kettle of fish the american military to be fair i think he actually immigrated to canada from poland so i don't know whether his military service was in the polish military or the canadian military listen he was he was in station in winnipeg he had haired on to his butt cheeks he was drinking maple syrup and playing cards for 10 years that's what he was that's what he was doing literally no point i have no idea what point you're trying to make i'm just saying are you trying to say he was canadian or canadian military is a goddamn gentleman's club okay okay thank you i had no clue what was going on for a second okay so it's a gentleman's club it's an absolute gentleman's club right and you're you're you're now assuming it was the canadian, not the Polish military. Right. Which I assume you also think is a Polish gentleman's club.

The Polish military? Here we go. They're sitting around, sipping vodka, hair done to their kneecaps, playing games of Dupa Bish Kupa. So it is a Polish version of... Of course. Right. koopa so it is a polish version of of course right weird you know a polish card game as well out of out of the out of the box a what i guess what i'm trying to say is uh i thought this might have more bearing um because as far as i'm concerned anyone that works for the u.s military

is in on their uh black ops area 51 style military technologies but um knowing that he was in the military for a totally different country i this probably has less conflict with him seeing a potentially classified military aircraft yeah it also maybe justifies um his decision to approach the craft and ask the yankee boys if they need help i guess maybe if you have served in the military yeah and you're a mechanic you could have relayed that information to them had they responded to you you could have been like hey i was in military i've worked with things like this before if you're having some problems let me know i can maybe give you some help well hey i was the same with you i read a number of different paranormal articles on this thing by the time

i finished reading i was ready to slap a big fat yes on it but the more research i did the more i came across inconsistencies and some little details that made me a bit more skeptical really and obviously i if i could choose i wouldn't discuss these at all on the podcast but i also believe in seeing both sides of the coin. So I think it's only fair that we read out some of the more skeptical opinions from people who have investigated this case. So obviously the case drew a lot of attention from the local police who wanted to investigate the site. Unfortunately, when asked, Stefan initially couldn't find it, which is a bit of a red flag because presumably you are stating that this is a site where an alien craft landed and blasted a fiery hole in the ground. Yeah.

And took off. And I mean, he seems like he was pretty together that night. So to be able to not find the site is, yeah, it would make me a little skeptical as well. You can imagine them going to him it's like so where was he's like i don't know it's a big jungle out there i don't know where was there like literally give us like a 10 mile radius and we'll send out a team and we'll track it down uh it's like literally give us any hint of anywhere near where it might have been there were some geese there were some geese in a bush and they honked.

Like we have this equipment that can actually detect radioactive sites. So if you could just point us in literally north or south. It's a coin toss. It really truly is. I was blasted so hard. Then there was the officer that Stefan bumped into on the night of the incident. Right. Now in his report, he stated that Stefan showed him his burned hat as well.

But when the officer asked why his head was not burned, he refused to answer. What do you mean? He didn't even make up an excuse? Bear in mind, this is a man who's just been blasted in the chest by an alien beam. Yeah. So let's, you know. His brain might have been scrambled. Mashed potatoes at this

point when the officer tried to get a look at the burns on his shirt this is when he claimed he was radioactive and kept moving away from the officer again it's not a good look because you know if there was a police officer on site willing to investigate you and you assume you're a radioactive i've never assumed in my life that i'm radioactive no and i've i've even after alvin gate after the alvin chicken nugget episode not even then in the words of the police report it looked like he had quote taken a black substance possibly wood ashes and rubbed them on his chest what but that's just that's the police officer okay that was his what okay that was his visual assessment yes if that was a doctor's assessment this case would have been over long ago because he did go to the hospital and he was treated for burns to his chest

so he didn't just rub dirt on his stomach jesus christ when he was asked questions like if touching the spaceship was hot enough to melt your glove, why isn't your hand burned? He refused to answer. Okay. The police officer also offered to actually give him a ride back to where he was staying. Very kind. Stefan refused. Right.

Then called up a local newspaper and said, no press just a ride i couldn't find online whether they hung up immediately or gave him a ride home he did get home eventually what what did he mean what i don't know they're just like what do you what do you think a newspaper does sir well so i'd like to think that's all he said he like calls the number people people hello this is the uh winnipeg weekly hotline how can i help you do you have any good scoops no press just ride nope i don't nope i don't have time for this just immediately hanging up on him the officers walking away wait can i still get a ride sir is it too late you can look at my hat i'm sorry um why isn't your head bird off i mean can i still have the ride now this is

also one of the most damning parts uh of the conflicting statements. Stefan claimed that he had not been drinking on the day of the encounter. Here we go. Or any day that week. Okay. But a quick check with a local bartender confirmed that the night before the encounter, Stefan had come in and at least had five bottles of beer, but that was the night before the encounter. Okay. and at least had five bottles of beer but that was the night before the encounter okay the police

officer who uh bumped into him on that uh on that day did mention in his report that he looked and acted like he was intoxicated okay but you look pretty freaking gone if you've been blasted in the chest by an alien death beam all right yeah you yeah you look pretty you look pretty toasted your eyeballs be pretty red and you'd probably have the munchies if you got abducted by an alien too oh you want me to say the alphabet backwards my legs are jelly and i've been burnt by a freaking space waffle iron yeah i'm not gonna be able to do any of that sir he's like okay we'll just do the breathalyzer absolutely not my breath is ash probably alien radioactive piss i will not breathe into the bottles just falling out of his pocket

they planted it on me those little grays you know they actually use bourbon as space fuel police officer goes into a squad car i'm i'm gonna need backup i i don't know what this guy's doing he was either abducted by aliens or he's really drunk and i need to arrest him he turns around and he's just spitting in circles going do do do do do do do do do do do cancel the first order just bring the SWAT team and the attack dogs dog is asked okay so there's a couple different things in this case that I don't have the time or care to mention um but we can blast through a couple of them because there there are some important facts in here that are worth mentioning even though I don't think that they necessarily impact the case at all he was eventually able to find the site where he brought people uh to and also investigated himself they measured the soil which was um slightly radioactive okay okay but then scientists

examined the soil in the entire region uh and it was all a little bit radioactive um because of some material that was like quite deep under the ground sure he also claims to have investigated the site with a uh ufo enthusiast and recovered a piece of scrap metal that had been fused to the rocks by the landing site which i can give you a little glimpse of here i'd like to see that there it is against a um a coin uh so you can kind of get an idea of the house how big it is so that's the okay that's a piece of okay that's a piece of scrap metal it's a piece of scrap metal like i think it is some quite difficult to obtain silver i mean still obtainable but um like it wasn't just a piece of iron it was like melted to a rock it's just by a guy who owns the equipment that could melt shit to rocks

who went out there with the express purpose of mining rocks by the way of course yeah uh it's also a bit weird that he claimed that this cigar shaped craft was completely smooth, completely featureless. Yet there's just scraps of metal just falling off this thing. Yeah. And this isn't a piece of like silky smooth, beautiful space metal. This looks like it was recovered from the Titanic. Like it is literally, it's dissolving. It looks rusty.

It's black. It's disgusting. It's disgusting Yeah, it's not the most convincing piece of evidence ever recovered from a crash site. And of course Very shortly after the incident He released his book when they appeared Oh Which was a retelling of the Falcon Lake incident It is the inside story of a close encounter. The artwork for the cover is very interesting. It tells you more about, I think, the man than the story,

but that's the cover of the book. There's so many, a lot of mixed signals. Yeah, so we have the craft there in the middle of the woods. Everything kind of checks out so far. But then on the horizon, we have like the faded silhouettes of a bunch of men. About 12 men. In suit. They look like men in black, like MIB officers.

Okay, but some of them look like MIBs. This guy on the far left is just wearing a turtleneck. That's not an MIB. That's just a stylish gentleman and at no point were any of these men mentioned in the story at all no i don't know what maybe these were like characters or people he that is a turtleneck it's just a full-on turtleneck you never asked me who was piloting the craft who none other than legendary jazz musician miles davis okay book his ass so i mean this is the one thing that i've made it very clear before i hate to see on the podcast which is

people having a motive uh for why they would fake a story like this people making a job out of the paranormal people making money out of the paranormal. People making money out of the paranormal. Exactly. There's nothing we hate more. Exactly. Side note, obviously, patreon.com. Obviously. This Paranormal Life.

Make sure and go to www. Go to www.paranormalmembersclub. Of course. To get your way into the secret hotel. That'll cost you as well, obviously, all money. But people like this who have this agenda to monetize the paranormal i can't stand it that's sick unbearable it's not what we like to see and it does put a little bit of a dampener on a case that has so much fantastic

evidence like this case the falcon lake incident so with all this evidence in mind all the pros all the cons what we need to do is take all of these ingredients and make a conclusion soup which is either going to be sweet or sour yes or no chef kit what where it was what's going on in your kitchen today why is your soups sour why are you having a sour soup? Or indeed a sweet soup. I don't know how to cook. That should be evident by now. What is it supposed to be? Cold? Are we gonna come down

on a delicious cold sour metse platter? Stefan has painted quite the picture. Quite the picture indeed. A lot of what he hit upon here were just textbook UFO close encounter tropes. Fantastic. And we got some first-hand evidence that that was brilliant.

I did think whenever we first saw that craft, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, so I didn't really say much. But I think you would maybe agree. That's a pretty generic sketch of a UFO. Yeah. It's not reinventing the UFO. What I like to see in my crazy hillbilly paranormal encounter drawings is a flare.

You want to see a cigar? I want to see a gray ride in a cigar like a bull at a rodeo honestly but the whole the whole thing is i mean these these like cliche ufos and these cliche aliens the grays with the big eyes i mean it's come from somewhere those those ideas they've been developed and obviously they've been kind of like hijacked by the mainstream media and hollywood and the retellings of these stories but i mean these these these ideas and these iconic ufos have to come from somewhere and maybe kit maybe everyone's drawing the same ship because they all look the same and they're all real you ever think of that it is possible if you ask me

to draw a freaking hamburger i'm not gonna draw an apple because hamburgers are real kid i don't need to reinvent them i just draw the thing okay dude calm down i'm just getting fired up i'm just getting rory standing up yeah it's possible i I mean, if an extraterrestrial came to Earth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they saw. What do you want me to do? Draw a cat. Draw a cat.

Stick with the hamburgers. It's a hamburger. It's got two buns and a patty. I know hamburgers look a bit like a UFO, but we've got to drop this metaphor. If an alien came to earth and they saw one plane in the sky yeah and they might be like whoa that is crazy dog that is that is some human flying technology that's pretty interesting they sketch that down if any other alien came to earth for landed on any point on earth yeah and basically 99.99999 percent of time that they see something

flying in the sky it's gonna look exactly the same as that first sketch exactly because there's millions and millions of planes in the world and they all look the goddamn same yeah we nailed it first time nailed it perfect oh by we i mean me i'm taking credit for it the wright brothers knocked out of the park how many flights have they taken you've taken twice as many oh the right the right brothers what do they get 50 meters may i've gone i've flown long haul to la baby i've done long haul economy they were in something below economy for sure uh didn't even get peanuts it's possible that this is a real meme yeah anyway all this aside i guess what i'm pointing at is that that's suspicious to me that nothing about this was unique as an

encounter but rather it was a classic encounter it kind of borrowed from all different stories we've heard before it's true and that leaves us with the possibility that this is it's just a textbook ufo encounter or that this is exists only in the mind of stefan plagiarized ufo encounter it's a it's a dangerous line that we walk that we tread every day but unfortunately we have to come down on a conclusion so based on the evidence kit where where where are you landing i was pretty on board like you until you started sowing the seeds of doubt and i'm glad you had the cojones to come on here and tell us the truth that steph has a bit of a booze hunt and he wanted to keep that from us and now i'm starting to think that my initial diagnosis of him falling asleep in a waffle iron could be closer to the truth

than we first thought. Yeah. I mean, I was the same way. I was so ready to give this case a yes until I investigated a little bit deeper and I found some of the skepticism that followed him as the years went on. Granted, a lot of that skepticism has been dealt out by the force by the police right um you know which obviously if they've been instructed by their higher-ups they're gonna say oh he was drunk that night oh you you don't think they have empty bottles in the squad car and they just throw one down they go you look like you've been drinking stefan 100 that's what happens yeah yeah to a to a guy like this walking around with with welding gear it's it's an easy sell it's an absolutely an easy sell um so i was quite on the fence i think what i would have liked is one more bit of convincing evidence if stefan had been able

to go back to the site within a couple days that would have been great if you've been a little more forthcoming for it would have helped for sure yeah i mean he i think he was measured for radioactivity and there might have been a tiny spike but not enough i mean not the amount you would assume you'd be uh after being blasted in the chest by an alien exhaust also he's an industrial mechanic he definitely gets a little bit more juice than everyone else in their day job 100 mining like radioactive rocks in the forest is probably not going to help so i think anything more that had come forward from his side and i probably i would have been close to giving this one a yes i love a good uh ufo encounter they're one of my favorite ones to investigate. But

unfortunately, I think for this week, it's going to have to be a no from me. I think that makes it a double no, folks. A big old bowl of ice cold sour soup, unfortunately. But wow, what a great case. And thank you so much to Emily for emailing that in to this paranormal life podcast at gmail.com make sure to email in your own submissions guys we've actually got a couple recently that we love and we're going to take a look at so keep sending them in and hopefully we'll get to investigate your case if you enjoyed the show if you want more of the show if you want to hear your name shouted out and probably made fun of right here at the end of the podcast you can check out this paranormal life on patreon where for small amounts you can get big rewards baby and

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Yes, but Acosta sounds better with his name. It does. Acosta sounds a little bit better. No, he robbed. He robbed you. It was like he actually bat one of your shins pretty badly. Is that why you have the cast on this week? I gave him the money and he hit

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Oh, like a magician. It's like a fun little party trick. Well, it's more that he, like Oddjob in James Bond, his hat has a razor blade surrounding it. He throws that and it slices and dices people. Right, it's not really... You said it was a trick. Well, it's not really... You said it was a trick. Well, it is a trick.

Because you think it's a hat, but it's a deadly weapon. That's not a trick. It is a trick. So if I own an umbrella that's also a sword... Yeah. Do you think that's a trick? Do you think that's... I mean, someone's been tricked, obviously, because...

Yeah, it's a trick. It's a party trick. Woo, party trick. Fun little party trick. Cut the cake with the umbrella. Yay! Oh, you stabbed It's a trick. It's a party trick. Woo! Party trick. Fun little party trick. Cut the cake with the umbrella. Yay! Oh, you stabbed the man. Oh.

The umbrella's actually pretty freaking swordy. Hard to swing around. Oh, you made fun of my umbrella. Sheep! No arms for you anymore. You try and put on your blade hat, cut your own head. Ah! Patrick, we warned you not to buy the hat.

Shut up! Also, if it's not raining, you don't get any weapons, no hat. It's so hot today, you really should take the hat off. Thank you, Patrick. Thanks also to Jamie Shaw. Caw-caw, caw-caw.

It's Jamie Shaw. Half guy, half magpie. With a glint in his eye. For apple pie. I thought magpies take shiny things. Yeah, well, they also gotta eat, don't they? Kit? They can't eat a man's watch. True.

That would kill them. So I think that actually if you put a fresh apple pie, a magpie, it's part of their freaking name for a start, so. Don't come at me with birds shit if you don't know, literally,

if you don't know shit about birds. You do have a bunch of... How big is a crow egg? If you think you're so smart. How big is a crow's egg? I didn't say you didn't... Okay, fine.

How big is a crow egg? Like, an inch across. That was a, that was a lucky guess. Okay. How big is a crow egg? Like, an inch across. That was a lucky guess. How big is a pigeon's egg? I mean, pigeon, crow, they're kind of similar. I guess an inch across. F***.

You thought I wouldn't get those, I guess. You have a lot of bird tattoos as well. And egg tattoos all an inch across. Every bird lays a similar egg you're like well not an ostrich oh what what the hell is that there's some type of crow sir listen jamie shaw you're obviously half man half bird i don't know what size your eggs are but i'm glad you're uh laying enough to fund a subscription to the Paranormal Patreon. Thank you so much. Thanks also to Francisco Gomez.

More like Francisco Romez. The first baby to ever be born at sea. And his parents took one look at him and said, No. Threw him into the ocean. And this little baby rowed his way back to shore that's why they call him romes um he obviously became an olympian after that fine age of two at the fine age of two and a half actually sir sorry um and then um i mean this was before the steroid scandal and

everything at uh two and a half because no one no one questioned why he went from infant to olympian rower yeah no one wants to ask a baby if they're on steroids a cute little baby so he got away with it for quite a while um but i'm glad to see that he's obviously pawned his olympic golds to fund a very important subscription to the paranormal patreon he was walking into the rio games they were like uh sir can we get your sample? He's like, goo goo ga ga. F*** off. Like, oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Baby.

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arguably even more popular than brie let's be honest and these aren't cheeses these are just weirdly popular people with cheese based names but brie is the queen the queen brie of course um so i'm glad she's still up i'm glad she's obviously making some money off those facebook friends and i'm so glad that she's supporting the This Paranormal Life Patreon. Guys, thank you so much for all your support. If you're waiting on your shout out, don't worry. I'm sure it's just around the corner. I hope you enjoyed this week's episode.

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