This Paranormal Life - #126 Japan Air Flight 1628 - The Most Convincing UFO Encounter Ever?

Episode Date: August 20, 2019

Every year there are thousands of UFO sightings globally - unfortunately many are reported by untrustworthy sources. But when in 1986 three ex-Airforce and commercial jet pilots with 46 years experience reported and recorded what they called 'The Mothership', everyone wanted to know the truth.Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Do animals have a sixth paranormal sense? If so, are dogs the UFO hunting astronauts of the future? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life! Yo! Welcome back to the podcast. You're listening to This Paranormal Life, the show where every week we dissect a different paranormal tale, case, or claim and get to the bottom of whether it truly happened or not. As always, you're joined by myself, Kit Greer. This guy sitting across from me, Rory Pars. How are you doing today, Rory? I'm doing fantastic. I'm doing great. I'm having a good week.

And my favorite thing to do every week is really get my meaty little claws into a paranormal case. Rory, I'm not going to beat around the bush here. We've had, let's be honest with our listeners, we've had a long string of no's in this podcast. That's right. If you're tuning in for the first time, basically at the end of every show, we come down to a yes or no whether something's paranormal or not.

Spoiler alert, there's not been a yes in a very long time. Yeah. That's why we're here. We're the investigators. And hey, if it were an easy job and anyone could do it. Then they would. Then they would.

We wouldn't get paid so much cash to do it. And we're not proud of the no's. You know, we've heard enough no's in our life. Can we have a loan to start the commune? No. No. Asking our parents, are you proud of this? No.

Dad, will you please just stick around for Christmas? No. Just no after no after no and i think it's time the commune here's a yes for once big old y-e-s and that's what i've brought to the table today i mean i don't want to get too ahead of myself but i'm pretty confident you're gonna agree with me i love this i love this i'm ready it's noveth, 1986, and we're 35,000 feet up. We're aboard a Boeing 747. Good plane. Japan Airlines flight 1628. Except this is a cargo flight, so it's a quiet and routine journey piloted by one Captain Kenju Terauchi, co-pilot Takanori Tamefuji,

and engineer Yoshio Tsukuba. The plane was coming from Paris and was laden with fine wine destined for Tokyo. But they do that journey in stages apparently, so on November 17th, their flight path took them from Reykjavik in Iceland, across the northern Atlantic, and then onto the final long stretch through Alaska and the Northern Territories to their destination in Anchorage. Okay. northern Atlantic and then on to the final long stretch through Alaska and the northern territories to their destination in Anchorage. The evening sky was beautiful and clear as they flew, with visibility for miles. And because of this, Captain Terauchi noticed something in the distance, about as far away

as he could see. He spotted two lights, yellow and amber. Now immediately he thought these could be aircraft beacons. The only problem was that the international color for those beacons is red, like we've seen on countless airplanes on the tops of buildings in London. Yeah, yeah. So he watched intently and as he did one of these lights changed angle slightly, and one didn't. And looking at his radar, only one of them was showing up, and it read about eight miles ahead. He was intensely focused on these because he wanted to work out if he was passing another plane or not. It was obviously a potentially dangerous situation.

I feel like if you're the pilot of a plane, I want my pilot to know when there's other planes nearby. Right. of a plane like i want my pilot to know when there's other planes nearby right you i don't know a lot about what it takes to fly a plane but i you know there's flight paths and there's obviously some sort of schedule uh for these planes i never want to be in the situation where my pilot's going huh now what now what in the heck is that what is that out there it's like i'm gonna need you to think a bit faster because we're traveling at 5 000 miles per hour yeah you need to know you need you need to know and you need to have a weapon and you know what and if if you don't know you still need to be able to make a split second rash decision yeah even if the thing looks friendly it fire the lasers or whatever's on board if you have to cock a gun in the cockpit which you're not allowed to have because you're not supposed to have all that stuff all that nerd shit if you need to just fire that

handgun out the windshield of the plane drive by at 35k feet you call it a flyby you you're a gangster ass flyby you you crack the weapon a smidge and you just get sucked out there like an octopus through a 50 pence piece. Completely liquefied instantly and pulled out of the bullet hole. The gun doesn't fly through the window. It falls back onto the ground of the cockpit, fires wildly, ship goes down. Yeah, I would not attempt a flyby as as they call it, in the street gang community. But definitely you need to be ready to combat this thing with weapons, possibly. And we don't care if there's hundreds of innocent people on that ship and there's literally just you on this ship.

Yeah. Because it's a cargo ship. Even if mine's full of villains, I prioritize their safety. You have a brain full of dangerous criminals. Dangerous criminals and wine. I'm trying to get them out of the country. Deadliest cocktail of all. So Captain Terauchi, he slowly dimmed the cabin lights

to make sure what he was looking at wasn't a reflection, that his eyes weren't just playing tricks on him. Smart. What's more, Terauchi was actually an ex-fighter pilot with over 10,000 hours of flight experience. So if anyone should trust their eyes up there, it's this guy. In a dark cabin, he flew and stared ahead for six minutes before he decided with certainty to call it in. He radioed into the FAA or Federal Aviation Administration air controllers on the ground in Anchorage, but they replied that all they could see on radar

was Flight 1628, his plane. However, they did advise him to take evasive action if needed. So he immediately dropped altitude to 31,000 feet. Smart. Except except the lights followed him in exact formation and closer this time and to give you a little sense of what captain tetauchi must have been feeling at this time here's an artist's interpretation of what the crew were seeing at this point okay okay this is good this is exactly what we need here folks wow okay this is not what i expected at all okay so i was thinking you know we're talking about like two lights uh circular lights hovering around in the sky but what we're seeing here is essentially two very large led panels they almost look like stadium lights flood lights you would see at a football stadium very Very much so, very much like floodlights.

But they don't seem to be connected. They seem to be just the squares of lights hovering ominously in the air with the sides of each square lit up. But the middle pillar of it is not lit up at all. Very spooky stuff. Yeah, I feel like he probably thought it was an aircraft beacon from when it was like eight miles away. Yeah. But once he drops altitude and sees them closer up, I think it's extremely clear that it's not anything like that. That's terrifying.

So Terayuchi went one further. He turned the whole damn plane around. He looped in a circle, which was pretty smart because it eliminated the possibility that he was looking at some stationary phenomenon. But still, the objects followed in formation. At this point, he realized he was dealing with something he had never seen before. He claimed that the object had no gravity or inertia, and that they were able to change speed and direction impossibly fast. Wow. Looking at his radar, he believed these crafts were moving at massive speeds.

And I thought this detail was particularly weird. He said that the lights themselves were so bright that he could feel their sheer heat inside the cockpit. Oh, that's not good. That's how close he's getting to this thing. But before he knew it, as they approached some clouds, they zoomed off as quickly as they arrived. Any noise? Any trails of smoke? I don't think so. There's so much ambient noise if you're in your own cockpit, right?

Yeah. They've got those big mufflers on as well. Yeah. There's like, even if you tell everyone to shut up there's still plane chatter you know like we're running out of peanuts we need some drinks on the start and you're just like everyone just keep it down you're just like over the comms to the passengers which you should never do because they don't want to hear from the pilot they think it's an emergency that's when it's bad like shut the f**k up everyone shut up i can't hear myself think up Once these lights were gone, Push that one more time, uh, passengers, and see what f***ing happens. Who's flying the plane?

Once these lights were gone, the crew were left in a darkened cockpit and could just make out a pale white light surrounding them. They told ground control they were experiencing peculiar radar behavior, and then Terauchi turned to his left to see where the source of this white light was coming from. He said that next to them was what he described as a mothership. Whoa. A giant craft at least the size of multiple aircraft carriers. Whoa.

Now, thankfully, after surviving this incident, Tadouchi was able to draw what he saw. And I can now show you his sketch. All right, all right. Okay, all right, this is more what I was thinking of. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a little planet on our hands. I mean, even an aircraft carrier is very much underselling what Terauchi saw up there. aircraft carrier is very much underselling what terauchi saw up there he saw saturn it's a ball it's a ball with like a hoop around it that's what it looks like i mean have you noticed the airplane for scale by the way oh jesus it's so small he saw a planet i don't understand he took the liberty of drawing his own airplane his own boeing 747 for for a reference which for reference is a dot on this page alongside this moon

borderline jupiter i don't know what to say here there's a lot of japanese writing uh that i don't know what to say here. There's a lot of Japanese writing that I don't quite fully understand. You actually, you can read some Japanese. Right, right, right. Do you recognize? Can you translate any of that? You know, I took one or two evening classes just like a couple Wednesdays. Of course. I did like a quick Wednesday, Thursday, but I'm pretty sure I mastered that shit.

It's pretty easy. The teacher kicked me out. At least that's why I think she kicked me out because I fucking mastered it. As long as you know, all you really need is McDonald's wa doko desu ka? And you'll never go hungry in your life. Give a man a fish, he'll eat once. But teach a man McDonald's wa doko desu ka? Yeah.

He'll eat for the rest of his f***ing days. Yeah. As long as he's got 99p. There is actually a transcript of Japan Air Flight 1628 talking to the FAA in Anchorage, which you can read online. At this point, Terauchi says, we must run away quickly. Wow. After seeing the mothership, he calls it into ground control and they receive an immediate

request for them to change course by 45 degrees but as he turns the plane around towards talkeetna landing strip the mothership follows at this point ground control are offering military assistance to teruchi because yeah we're over america at this point yeah yeah they're not over canada they're not over paris they're not over iceland or japan they're over alaska yeah that's right you're hovering over the u.s of goddamn aada they're not over paris they're not over iceland or japan they're over alaska yeah that's you're hovering over the u.s of goddamn a and they're not going to tolerate no mothership no if you try and get into united states today as a goddamn doctor yeah they're turning you away no way what are they going to do if you're a planet a planet with millions of sentient beings

on it no it's gonna happen you're gonna be able to rent a one bed in Manhattan. There's no goddamn way they're letting you in. So they offer military assistance to Terauchi and his crew, but he declined, having heard about the Mantell incident. Sounds like he declined because in that incident, the military showed up and shot the plane. Hopefully that's not what happened. In 1948, a U.S. Air Force pilot sighted a UFO and followed it all the way into the upper atmosphere, ignoring all advice on ground control to level out his altitude.

And to this day, it's unknown whether a UFO killed him or he simply blacked out from a lack of oxygen. But he died. That's terrifying. Yeah. That's really terrifying. But they really look at the Mantell incident as the turning point of how UFOs were reported on. Because up to that point, it was kind of seen as like a funny novelty item news story. But after that, it was like, okay, ufo killed someone either just by someone trying to

pursue one yeah or by some sort of violent conflict so it definitely changed how people thought about it there is something so genuinely terrifying about the thought of being a pilot who sees something in the sky so enticing and addicting that he literally will follow it into space until his craft explodes or whatever happens when we leave earth i think we pop like a balloon that that's what's so interesting you don't get up into the sky generally unless you're pretty experienced there's a couple stories out there of less experienced pilots who do crazy shit but i mean someone like captain tatauchi he has he's an ex-fighter pilot 10 000 hours up up in the sky it's a lot of hours so when he starts calling in to ground control being like i don't know what i'm

looking at that's worrying so because he knew about that incident he didn't want to call in military assistance in case it got either his ass or their ass killed. However, ground control had one more idea up their sleeve. They knew that right that second there was a United Airlines flight taking off in the same flight path over Alaska. They radioed in and simply asked the pilot to keep a lookout for this UFO and JAL 1628. However, by the time 1628 was coming into land, the United Airlines flight was 12 miles away and the UFO was long gone. Terauchi had eventually lost sight after his various evasive maneuvers. Now, once they landed, the crew gave a report to

the FAA, citing that they had seen UFOs categorically. And once back in Japan, Terauchi was interviewed by Kyoto News, one of the largest news agencies in Tokyo, about the incident. There are excerpts of this online that you can read, but in the interview, he revealed all. He drew the diagram that I just showed you of the mothership. He explained the timeline of events and what his crew were thinking. He explained that the smaller ufos that we started off with were not picked up on ground control radar the mothership was apparently picked up on the faa and air force radars so it was picked up on radar and there's like records of that as well that's bananas we'll get to this in a bit oh my god faa investigators we're blowing this is this is it guys. This is

the yes being grown in front of you right now. Can you feel this? Can you feel the seeds of conspiracy sprouting up through the earth? We are living the yes right now. I can feel it coming. FAA investigators who questioned the crew in Anchorage concluded

in a report that the crew was quote, normal, professional, rational, and had no drug or alcohol involvement. This is what I love is credible witnesses. All right, that's my favorite type of people that we talk about in these cases. You're saying this guy has, what, 10,000 hours of flight time? This guy, the crew altogether have a combined total of 46 years in the air i have probably 10 000 hours on blizzard's overwatch all right i play that game so much and you can bet if i see a tracer i know that i saw a tracer all right if i see saturn in the corner of the ilios death match map i know what

i saw you know what you saw it could be a split second on numbani and it could be a winston flying overhead i know i saw that monkey all right so don't come at me saying that i'm inexperienced 10 000 hours put anywhere makes you an expert. They say that 10,000 hours is, that is the route to mastery. If you put 10,000 hours into anything, you will be a master. Yeah.

Personally, a master sitting on my goddamn ass. Of course. But granted, if lights start hovering around the sofa when I'm kicking it with a couple brewskis, I'm going to know what I saw. Exactly. Needless to say, this interview and the investigation by the FAA painted a very believable and respectable picture of our witnesses.

They asked him if he was nervous, to which he replied, no, I am the captain. I cannot be nervous. Very cool. Very cool. That's some Galactic 12 shit right there. And when they asked him why he thought the ufos were following a cargo ship in the first place he laughed and said we were carrying bourgeois a very famous wine made in

france maybe they want to drink it but it is a good question we never think about why a ufo would decide to pop up at that time and indeed follow him and his Yeah, the fact that it's a cargo ship transporting wine. I mean, I would jump to the conclusion that they didn't know what was on the ship. But before I jumped to the conclusion that they're trying to gank it. Trying to gank some sweet wine. There is zero Beaujolais Sauvignon on on planet x so they had to come all the way to alaska all they have is bottle after bottle of space wine which is basically liquid diamonds and gold bottled up and corked which to them is like it's basically shit gutter trash it's nothing

that's their like that's their that's their frosty jacks their buck fast absolutely it's it's trash to them but i mean if they if one alien came down and took a swig from a can of tenants it would it would blow them away that's a foreign delicacy to them now if they took a sip of goldschlager they would think it was gutter trash is terrible too similar to home they don't like goldschlager they don't like caviar they don't like any of the fancy stuff it's pretty much upside down land if you haven't gathered already have you seen stranger things well here's the twist we're the upside down we're the shit world sirloin steak to them is a happy meal but if they get their hands on a microwave rustler burger

they will i mean they'll eat for days just having slice after slice they've they've been known to take packets of super noodles with them back to their home planet and save it for their version of christmas which is in the middle of summer obviously but there's still santa there's still an alien yeah he's making a list and checking it once this is terauchi in the interview they're like do you know what he's not that reliable i think he's about to retire cut the mics cut the mics yeah but unfortunately for terauchi after being so honest and spilling the beans on this entire affair japan airlines were furious that he went public and immediately punished him grounding him indefinitely and moved him somewhere he would never encounter ufos again

do you mean like ground as in sent to his room or grounded as he can't fly anymore he has to work in an office okay which is his bedroom which is both yeah he works from home and no tv after eight this probably raised more than a few eyebrows. After all, why shouldn't he be able to speak out about his own experience? But they were angry that people might interpret his statement as the official company view of what happened. That's fair. So now, everyone is scrambling to explain what's going on.

Japan Airlines completely contradicted Terauchi and the crew, stating that it was some sort of technical failure and a misunderstanding on behalf of the crew, and naturally the case also attracted paranormal investigators. This time in the form of PSYCOPPS, also known as the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal. You can tell that's one of those organizations that worked out they wanted to be called PSops and then had to work backwards to fill in what that means. 100%. They concluded that the crew had simply been looking at Jupiter and Mars and confused them for UFOs. This was not a popular explanation because apparently contradicting what they've just said apparently Jupiter and Mars would have been effectively the other way

compared to their flight path. And I mean, they would have been dots as well. Yes. And also, he did like a 360 loop. None of it makes any sense. It doesn't at all. They're putting trash on Terauchi's name right now. As if he wouldn't have known what a planet looks like.

Yeah, he's got 10,000 hours in the sky. Did you ever look up at the sky and look at Mars? Because you can see Mars from Earth. It's disappointing as hell. Because you think it's going to be this big old red orb in the sky. It's a dot, folks. It's a twinkly little dot. It's a bit red.

Tiny bit, maybe. Sometimes I just say that I think it's red because other people told me it was i can't see shit i think it's an insult to these fine men to assume what they saw was a planet however it seems that even they realized this idea was dumb because they went back to the drawing board and eventually said actually they saw light reflecting off ice crystals in the upper atmosphere uh there's definitely hey i'll give it to them there's some weather patterns that are Actually, they saw light reflecting off ice crystals in the upper atmosphere. There's definitely, hey, I'll give it to them. There's some weather patterns that are very rare, kind of unheard of,

and that if you hadn't seen before, you might mistake for a paranormal phenomenon. Well, hell, floating ice crystals. I'll go on the line and say that's paranormal right now. Fuck it. But at this point, the only people in this whole affair who haven't given their version of the story were the FAA, the Federal Aviation Administration. What was taking them so long? After all, they were there on the ground communicating with the crew. They were there with access to all the evidence from Flight 1628.

That's because they had been told not to say shit. 1628. That's because they had been told not to say shit. The FAA head of investigations, John Callahan, presents the evidence to President Reagan's scientific advisors, military officers, and CIA agents. We ran this thing for him, and the CIA guy, he says, can we see it again? So I had to rewind the tape, put it back in again, rewatch it again. So I had to rewind the tape, put it back in again. We watched it again. After a third viewing, the meeting is brought to an abrupt end. This event never happened.

We were never here. We're going to confiscate all this data, and you ought to swarm to secrecy. What do you think it was, a stealth bomber? No, that was a UFO. I said, UFO? He said, yeah, look at them. Look at the scientists. He says, they're drooling. They can't wait to get their hands on all this equipment. CIA agents gather all the evidence and take it away. The CIA says, I don't want to tell the American public that we were visited by somebody who has more technology than we do.

It's bad for business, so we don't do it. that we are visited by somebody who has more technology than we do. It's bad for business, so we don't do it. We asked the CIA to comment on the Japan Airlines incident. They declined. Records of the encounter only exist thanks to John Callahan, who makes copies of the originals. He's determined the public should be told the truth. Do I believe that we're being visited? Yes. I believe we're being visited because I've seen the information

that the Japanese pilot talked about, and it had to be just what the pilot said it was, which would, in my eyes, mine would be a UFO. So, head of investigations, John Callahan from the FAA, gets called into a meeting with, I think he said, President Reagan's scientific advisor CIA and FBI agents they watched

the video three times and then I think his words were y'all are sworn to secrecy which I don't think is a binding contract by the way you can't just yell that at someone and make it so well I don't know actually it's the government maybe they can't if the CIA tells you you probably, there's a lot of people who'd obey.

I did really like in the clip where they basically said that he said, you're all sworn to secrecy. We're going to redact all this information. And this meeting never happened. And the man says, well, what was that? And then he just turns and goes, it was a UFO. We probably could have not said that you probably could have just not said anything really just gathered you had to have that last word you know stop on the in the doorway and go it was a alien dumbass earth ain't safe anymore

you know that those two cia agents are walking on the. It's like, Scott, we had it in the bag. Why did you have to say that at the end? I'm sorry, bro. I get too heated in those things sometimes. You know I like to believe. You knew the case, Scott. It was just get in, get the... We didn't even have to show the footage.

We didn't even have to show it. All we had to do was just leave. We actually didn't even need the meeting. We could have just got them to send us the shit and we burnt it and what you hear there at the end is that basically subsequently after this the faa told the line after this meeting they come out and said it was due to some sort of split radar issue that basically they were seeing multiple signals where there weren't any bullshit and they said i quote that they accept descriptions by the crew but were unable to support what they saw unbelievable ungod damn believe you work with

the pilots right up until the point where the man has the barrel of a gun on the back of your head and all of a sudden nothing happened i see how it is, crucially, this hero of the night, John Callahan, they confiscate this data, but he's got it on a little CD-ROM, apparently. A backup. So he's on TV, and he's just watching the radar data on his computer, and apparently he's distributed this to a bunch of places,

so it's there, it exists. The CIA have their gun against the back of the head of the FAA, but against the back of the head of the CIA is John. It's a triple twist. One step ahead. Fully packing an alien rifle with the butt of the gun right up against the CIA bastards. Granted, John's a little worried because he doesn't know what the gun does. It could actually make people stronger.

He doesn't know. He gun does it could actually make people stronger he doesn't know he hasn't fired it yet he fires it turns out it's a gun that makes people see shit from your point of view it's pretty abstract but it did the job unfortunately what he thought was the barrel was the stub the barrel pointing right at his own throat suddenly he's a narc he sees shit from the fbi's point of view he's right now everyone and cuffing anyone he can get his hands on he's calling teta uchi-san and getting him to come around for a coffee meanwhile he's warming up the handcuffs the barrel of the gun so obviously pointed at his own head take this you cia son of a bitch blast his own throat people are like it wasn't even it was shaped like a human gun it wasn't even an alien gun i think he just has never fired a gun before

it wasn't alien it was just backwards he's like oh that space gun made me a narc with a sore throat it's like you just shot yourself in the neck it's amazing you're alive the narc thing has nothing to do with it i think you're just scared now cia are just like you know what let him keep the evidence he's a danger to himself so rory yeah i feel like i've just dropped a bombshell what are you thinking right oh that's fantastic evidence this is the great thing about uh investigating a ufo case where there are pilots involved because ironically when you have a ufo case or an alien encounter that takes part uh within the military sure maybe some of that evidence is going to be destroyed or uh binned but you know that it does exist because all these encounters every movement

of every plane has to be so well documented very true that it's very hard to scrape anything under the rug i mean if you think of an alien encounter out in the woods with someone who's camping you know it's iphone footage their memory's a little hazy that camper doesn't know where he is let alone where the sasquatch is exactly you're not gonna get you're not gonna get exact details but obviously with a military flight like this you know they're probably saying i first made contact at 11 58 to the second literally you have my literal gps coordinates it went three clicks north then it doubled back it traveled at this speed 100 and actually um there was evidence that was cross-referenced because ted auchi originally in his testimony

he was like yeah I feel like those UFOs were following me for you know like 30 something minutes and then I think they actually worked out no it only followed you for like 8 minutes or something and he was like oh that felt like longer but that was good to know

and so they were able to actually come together and pool that information and I didn't want to rely on it too much, but it's worth mentioning that there have been a couple more bits of information come to light in the years since this first sighting of Japan Airlines 1628. On January 29th, 1987, Alaskan Airlines Flight 53 was heading from Nome, Alaska to Anchorage, the same destination as the Japan Airlines 1628 crew. Something happened that came to be known as the McGrath incident. This is where the co-pilot and pilot on radar over Anchorage saw out of nowhere multiple unidentified radar points. That might interesting in in and of itself but what was especially erratic was exactly what terauchi described objects moving without inertia

or gravity this is something mcgrath the pilot described as objects moving at a mile a second whenever they ran the calculations and how fast these things are moving across radar, they're travelling at thousands of miles per hour. Yeah. Completely defying all known science of movement. Not to mention what looks like just the next day, January 30th, 1987, a KC-135 cargo plane from Anchorage this time was heading to Fairbanks, Alaska and they spotted an unidentified object to their left just as happened to Terauchi now after asking air traffic whether they saw anything on their end they didn't before long the object disappeared out of sight but again these transcripts of these

sightings are on places like Wikipedia you can read what the pilots were saying you can see in those two later accounts that they actually reference the Japan Airlines flight. They're kind of aware of it. And they're like, geez, this is actually ringing some alarm bells in my head of that story. And these two stories were definitely factored into whenever journalists documented the case of Japan Airlines 1628. It made international news. The New York Times did a big write-up about it at the time. And it's not that there's enough with these other two sightings

to say that they're definitively paranormal, but stitched together with our original testimony, it paints kind of a broader picture. I find it quite humorous that it got to the point where the FAA were essentially denying a lot of the claims of the original case. But it seems like when this thing happens again, they very much reference the original case

as an example of when this exact same thing happened, which is a bit baffling. Are you guys seeing anything up here? It's like other than Saturn and those weird things moving at 3,000 miles per hour. No. Nah. You're tripping, bro. You're tired.

So, Rory, let's not beat around the bush. I've painted quite a picture here. We've taken it all the way back to the mid-80s. One of the most sensational UFO stories of modern history. We have a sighting by three different airline pilots with 46 years in the air, 10,000 experience just the pilot alone we have that information recorded in their radar on the ship cross corroborated by radar arrays on the ground not to mention a cia and goddamn presidential investigation to this thing which according to the head of the faa at the time was goddamn covered up but yet we know about it today because he has that little cd rom the back always make a backup always make a backup guys what do you make of this case this is amazing

this is my favorite kind of case one it's ufos one sold we've got a lot of evidence and uh finally the um lead witness isn't drunk those are my three favorite things there was a lot of wine on board but he swears he didn't take a sip he had 14 tiny heinekens uh but that was all yeah this is this is a perfect case i mean this is not a flash in the pan incident here folks i mean we see um crafts airplanes or military crafts uh having experience or encounters with ufos pretty much every year in fact i don't remember which episode it was where we talked about project blue book which i believe was the declassified government u.s government essentially organization to document and track ufos which went on for years and years

with them denying it never existed and then obviously coming out that it completely existed it's insane how many times they think they can get away with this just keep it secret forever why tell us or tell us now and just get it get it over with it's crazy but yeah so we already know that there's organizations in the u.s military who are in charge of tracking these types of crafts. And I think in that same episode, the example I used was maybe as recently as last year, quite recently in the news, there was the military jet that had an encounter with a strange object moving across the sky and we're not talking uh radar footage here folks we're talking actual real life footage from from the plane and you can watch this footage you can watch this weird craft tracking across the sky and rotating in a way that no plane possibly could you can also hear the actual interaction between the pilot and ground control

as they discuss this so there's no faking up the footage there's no getting rid of redacted this is the information age people if i want it i get it all right wiki leaks the dark web twitter tiktok wherever i gotta go to get that paranormal shit boy snowden he knows he's got a hookup for me so we already know that even to this day encounters like this are still happening granted maybe not on the scale of this one we do know that they to this day encounters like this are still happening granted maybe not on the scale of this one we do know that they are still happening which uh lends a lot of believability to this case for sure we shouldn't gloss over that the fact that as recently as last year u.s military video footage showed an unidentified flying object being chased by a fighter pilot moving like

terauchi described yeah without gravity or inertia that was kind of interesting what john said about the cia i'd never thought about it this way before but he claims they said we don't want the public to know there is technology out there greater than ours it's bad for business yeah so it which paints a kind of realistic picture that it's not that they're willingly trying to hide an alien race from people on earth more that it's politically sensitive because if they admit we don't know what that was and then it turns out that it's russian or chinese technology that's not good for the u.s. Makes them look weak. And then the Chinese and Russians know,

okay, we know for a fact that they don't have the technology that we have. They don't have planet ships like us. They don't have a mothership, a literal planet, a literal death star. At the end of every episode, we have to come down on a conclusion. Whether the paranormal tale that we've

outlined is truly paranormal or not we it's our duty that we owe to the community owe to the world to set the record straight so people know what's right and what's wrong what's right that's right that's right brother where are we coming down today look any case like this where we've got evidence we've got credible witnesses we've got the grubby little piggy stuff cia mib fbi dirty little hobgoblins getting their shitty little redaction pens poking around in my business you know that's paranormal you know there's something going on there you know where they don't show up? When everything's fine. And guess what? This ain't fine.

This is out of this world. Folks. Whenever it's a weather balloon, they don't. Reagan's scientific advisor and the CIA don't have a little meeting when there's a weather balloon. It doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. When there's a drone in the sky, they're nowhere to be seen. They're nowhere to be seen.

But as soon as this thing shows up, there's meetings drone in the sky they're nowhere to be seen they're nowhere to be seen but as soon as this thing shows up there's meetings there's organizations there's information being told one day and then taken back the next day folks we are looking at a premium guaranteed paranormal case here myself personally i'm putting my paranormal reputation on the line this week is a big old yes i can't believe it it's a double yes a double yes they said it couldn't be done they said it couldn't be done yet here we are whoo hell and you know what does that put a does that put a red dot site on my head you're goddamn right it is but i've got a gun turned the wrong way pointed right back at my head how do they like that and i'm not afraid to pull the trigger holy shnikes ladies and gentlemen thanks for sticking with us through through all the no's that's right wasn't it worth it

we got here in the end yes that actually should be like a rite of passage when you come through the gates of the paranormal commune uh will mark your forehead with a red x because once you enter that gate you're on a list you will be assassinated if you enter any major countries so it's it's it's really a sign of dedication to the organization it's a bit like that movie icarus it's like that russian uh it's like that russian doping guy it's like the moment you subscribe to our podcast on iTunes. Yeah. Call your wife, call your dog.

You're not coming back. Sorry. Sorry, babe. You're on the no fly list and the must die list. In that order. Hope you guys enjoyed the story of JAL 1628 guaranteed paranormal case. Wow. If you have any of your own thoughts about it,

if you were one of the crew, please let us know what you think at thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com. If you want the chance to relive the excitement of a double yes in the flesh, it's possible, folks, because we've got another live show. Our next live show is September 15th, Sunday 15th of September, 9.30 p.m. in London at the London Podcast Festival at King's Place.

We're extremely excited about it. It's going to be an amazing show. It will be. It will be. We've got a lot planned for you guys. We're bringing a lot of experimental military weaponry that we bought on the dark web. Is it legal? Of course not.

We're going to do crowd participation where we have you vote on which way you think the gun should be facing before we pull the trigger. So if you are free Sunday, 15th of September in London, 9.30pm, you can grab tickets at kingsplace.co.uk We'll also be tweeting, posting the link on Facebook, etc. They are moving. I do advise that you pick some up because they won't be around at the last minute. Definitely check it out. And lastly, but not leastly,

if you cannot get enough paranormal content in your life, if you have simply breezed through all the regular episodes of this paranormal life uh did you know there are more there's redacted this paranormal life content over at patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life where from two bucks a month you can get a shout out on the podcast five bucks a month gets you access to a monthly bonus episode and we've got a backlog there and 20 bucks a month gets you this paranormal

life cult yeah you commune t-shirt you think you're you're flying at 33 000 feet all alone listening to the podcast but uh-oh turn to your left it's the mothership it's bonus content it's following you wherever you go you want to turn you want to do a 180 it's still there it's going to follow you to the ends of the earth people in the public are going to say it doesn't exist they're going to say there are no bonus episodes i don't get any bonus episodes it's because they don't have the rss feed all right they don't pay shit they don't get shit it's quite a low bar to entry it is five bucks and that gets you the rss feed and then you see the mother shit of course yeah do you want to live your life

without all these extra government secrets being leaked of course you don't so for i mean what is what is five dollars you're gonna buy you're gonna get a cup of coffee you're gonna pay alimony to your wife you're gonna take your son billy out for an ice cream sandwich i don't know what you you guys do in your spare time it's not gonna buy two buy two ice cream sandwiches. That's for sure. To hell it isn't. It'll be one for Billy. You'll maybe get a bite if he's feeling generous. And he ain't because he hates you.

Because you don't buy him too many ice cream sandwiches. But you know what Billy loves? Supporting independent artists on Patreon. You know what Billy hates? Advertising. So do Billy a solid for once in your life dad don't let him down join the this paranormal life patreon and enjoy together you can share an earbud uh and and enjoy all the bonus content we have to offer and at the end of

every episode we like to take the time to do those said shoutouts. Shoutout people who are supporting us on Patreon. Let's go. Thank you to Bloody Malice. You got to be careful this day and age with your Bloody Malice. The amount of vampires I see on a day-to-day basis. You want Bloody Malice? You just got to be prepared for what you're bringing to the table, which is a horde of thirsty little fanged beasts.

As long as you're okay with dealing with that, you got your garlic, your holy water, super soaker, you know, it's fine with me. But there's your warning from a paranormal cage fighter who's had to put up with more than one of these bastards at a time. Surprisingly somber shoutout, but just a little PSA. Thanks also to Daniela Hodges. Daniela, I've got something to tell you. Your fangs are looking a little protruding, all right? And if it turns out you're a vampire, Daniela, I've made it clear.

I've made it abundantly clear What I do to those blood sucking Alright I appreciate the support But I swear Daniela if you even turn into a Bat once That's once too many times So thank you for your support

I so much as see you eat something red Honest to god We will have to put you down But thank you for the support. Thanks! I hope that you are not a vampire and if you are, just don't bite anyone in the commune and then it's none of our business. So thank you. Thanks also to

Reese Mobs. Reese Mob? As in Reese from the mob? He's getting behind us? Oh my goodness. If this is one of those, like, up give us something and now we're eternally indebted i don't know if i want it reese i think we'll just not take the money for sure i don't want to get mixed up with the mob yeah because i don't want it to be like

he gives us five bucks and now it's like we have to hide a body for him seriously okay i'm hiding enough bodies as it is reese there's no room in the closet. There's no capacity. We're at max capacity. So we'll take your dirty mafia gold. But we can't really help you with any favors, Herman. That's okay. We just have to help with something else. Fine. Yeah, we'll kill someone, but we can't take any more bodies. You gotta dispose of it.

Thanks also to Ward. Ward! What is he good for? Supporting us on Patreon! on patreon thank you ward for your endless support i know what you're good for and it's being a pal when i need one wow thanks also to connor kelleher connor kelleher killed a bird what that's right you know there's a lot of hunters that go out into the African deserts to hunt exotic birds. Is there?

What? I learned about this quite recently when Connor invited me on the hunt. I showed up. I said, where's the rifle? He said, the what? You learned firsthand. Yeah. And I wish I hadn't because it turns out he doesn't use guns at all.

He uses his hands. You looked around and just as you asked for the gun, he was just putting on a knuckle duster. I watched Connor punch a bird. There we go. I said it. If this is hush money, Connor, then fine. I'll accept it. It's totally.

Well, actually, I just told everyone what you did. But you've already sent it. But you've already sent the money, so it's fine. We'll call it even. Thanks also to Devin Sola. Devin Sola, you're like a soda. You're tall, delicious, ice cold, and one day you're probably going to kill me.

Just like world governments are trying to bring in soda taxes, we need a Sola tax tax and that's what patreon is for us it's our personal sola tax for you thanks also to jared dollard i need a dollar dollar jared is what i need he's sending us those u.s dollars and we appreciate it because every penny every dollar that you send us goes straight into what makes this podcast great. Whiskey, poker, anime body pillows. Everything that makes this podcast run, you help support it. So thank you.

Thanks also to Kaylee Thompson. Kaylee Thompson comes from Compton. Whoa. Kaylee is one of, believe it or not, one of the early lesser known members of NWA. Oh my gosh. Insane, I know. Very influential.

It's kind of back when rappers were kind of, it was kind of like fun, like nursery rhyme kind of style stuff. It was like, you know, like my name is Kaylee and I'm here to say, you know. Yeah, like the bubbly kind of like Will Smith style rap. Yeah. Yeah. My name is Kaylee and I'm here to say that I kick butt all across the USA. It's like, all right, that's pretty cool.

And then obviously as she took more drugs and got more involved with the street crime, obviously as she took more drugs and got more involved with the street crime uh her latest later albums were more like you know my name is mother kaylee i'm gonna rip your throat out of your face and bury you in moat it's like all right even dr dre was like kaylee you need to cool it bro i'm mother crazy kaylee like we like the original Daisy Kaylee, who was kind of cute with the flowers. F*** daisies. I'm gonna kill you, Dre. All right. The label's gonna drop you,

because you can't say that. Dre's like, I'll say f*** the police. I'll say a lot of things, but f*** daisies. What have they ever done to hurt anyone? Nothing. So, wow.

I hope your rap career is coming back in full force. Let us know when the next single drops, and we'll throw you some money. Thanks also to Sabrina Melendez. I don't know a lot about Melendez, but I know one thing, and that's Sabrina's a witch. Simple enough. Simple enough. You know what? It's brave of you to show your face to a couple of paranormal hunters.

I'll be honest with you. Witches don't bother me that much sabrina you know what do they ever do to anyone just cook up some shit cook up a newt cook up something they curse a lot of people yeah well beside aside from that do some magic go to hogwarts drink a butterbeer kill voldemort witcheses are good. What I'm trying to say is I think this human-witch divide needs to be torn down. All I know is Hermione seemed pretty friendly. Yeah. And she was by all accounts a witch. She was. So Sabrina,

thank you for your support. Thank you also to Shiler Vuck. Shiler isn't shy. Not at all. He always stands up for what he believes in. Fortunately, stands up for what he believes in. Fortunately, a lot of what he believes in is pretty bad. Oh. Like, he'll just go on a tangent about how he thinks we should definitely use animals to test everything.

Really? He believes global warming is a hoax. Oh. Which, you know, Shiler, I appreciate the fact that you're not shy. I like the fact you're so upfront. But I definitely don't believe you should be saying a lot of the things you're saying. And that's coming from a guy who every word puts him further into Guantanamo Bay. Did we mention that?

We're in Guantanamo. We are. This is live from Guantanamo. We're in the mo. We. We are. This is live from Guantanamo. We're in the mo. We should really start every episode with that. Live from Guantanamo Bay. This paranormal life. Shiler, thank you for your support. I hope you're not embarrassed to say that you love this podcast.

Thanks also to Sid and Meg Early. How do you like your Megs in the early? I like mine with a C. Oh my god. Guys, they say that the early bird gets the worm, but the early humans get a fantastic podcast. Thank you

for all your support. We are very grateful. Thanks lastly, but not leastly to Matt Saul. And Matt Saul, folks, see you next week on this paranormal life. Matt, thank you so much for your support.

Thank you so much for all the time and love that you give this podcast. Without you, Matt, we would crumble to ash. We would crumble to little dust men. Little dust bunnies, even. But, thanks to you you it's all good so thank you for your support it means the world to us thanks everyone we've shouted out today

and everyone we've shouted out in the past and everyone we are yet to shout out um thanks everyone for being so patient with your shout outs i know it's been a little wait yeah whenever we started doing shout outs basically there's a lot less people uh it was four we knocked it out of the park in one episode because you guys have been so um supportive of the show it just means we have a couple more names to get through every week but um we are getting there we're committed yeah we're gonna do it it also means that the paranormal commune is growing and spreading all across the world so and you know what that means folks that means better memes the more people come into the paranormal life uh secret society and commune the better memes we all get that's right it's called a hive mind buzz buzz we're

all little bees but instead of honey we get hun memes i think we gotta go uh as you can tell my brain is literally fried from all the insane paranormal information that it's been trying to digest for the last hour I hope yours is too listener I'm gonna go enjoy a mocktail on the back of that double yes otherwise we'll see you next Tuesday

for a brand new paranormal tale bye bye folks