This Paranormal Life - #137 The Fresno Nightcrawler

Episode Date: November 5, 2019

Is the Fresno Nightcrawler a paranormal entity drifting endlessly between the physical and spiritual realm? Or is it a pair of ghost pants? Find out as Rory and Kit #INVESTIGATESupport us on Patreon.c...om/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityResearch by Amy GrisdaleEdited by Louis BlatherwickIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Can ancient crystals control time and space? Is the Earth's core full of spiders? All of these questions you can find the answer to on This Paranormal Life! I feel like that gets louder every episode. I can't hear anything, Rory. Welcome to This Paranormal Life, the comedy paranormal podcast where every week we investigate a brand new paranormal tale claim beast and come to a conclusion within the hour usually as to whether or not it is real or it is false that's right my name is rory paranormal powers this guy's name
Starting point is 00:00:39 is kit greer and we're going to be your chief investigators today on the case of a lifetime. Really? Oh, yeah. It's not every day you get a golden nugget like this dropped right on your lap. But here we are. Are you serious? Because we've been doing this show for two years. So you're saying this is...
Starting point is 00:00:56 We've seen it all. Bronze nuggets. Mostly bronze and actually wooden nuggets. Yeah. But you're saying this is the case that's going to keep us into old age for the next 98 years this is the start of a multi-part series i think and we have nemo b to thank for it all right there's one of our listeners who emailed us in to this paranormal life podcast at gmail.com nemo b said subject suggestion and the contents three words the fresno night crawlers okay consider me interested nemo yeah straight to the point see all these people out there saying stuff like hey
Starting point is 00:01:35 love the show long time listener such a huge fan deleted archived you took too long oh rory i'm i love you so much you're my favorite get out of here oh i actually signed up a couple months ago and i haven't received any of my patreon bonuses f**k off not interested three words baby the fresno night crawlers that's all we want to hear so immediately i dropped everything in my life everything my job my job, my kids, my car. Left it all out in the wild. I think you were looking after your sister's newborn as well. I was pretty... Irrelevant. Three words I said to that little bastard.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Cushing underneath him at the time. I drove that sucker out to the woods, pushed him into the car, looked him in the eyes and said, the Fresno Nightcrawlers. Didn't understand. He didn't understand. He was confused. But it's fine. All right?
Starting point is 00:02:22 We're going to get into this case right now no more dilly-dally the year is 2007 wow and we're in you guessed it fresno california one of the most diverse cities in america and the city that started the raisin industry oh because everyone had california raisins yeah that's not relevant to the story. It's just an interesting fact I found out about. I'd like to talk more about the raisins. They're actually pretty paranormal. They're the ghosts of grapes, so that's pretty relevant. A man named Jose is living in a peaceful suburban neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:02:57 But despite his idyllic surroundings, there's something that keeps him up at night. His dogs. there's something that keeps him up at night. His dogs. Every night when the neighborhood is asleep, his dogs go crazy and start barking. Now this goes on long enough that eventually Jose snaps and thinks, look, they gotta be barking at something. Maybe a stray animal, possibly even an intruder.
Starting point is 00:03:21 So he decides to set up a security camera above his garage, overlooking the front of his house to find out finally what's going on. Two nights later, they're just asshole dogs. Yeah, just idiots. Well, that night, Jose is asleep in bed. And just like every night, he wakes up to the dogs barking outside. So the next morning, he loads up the recording to find out what was going on and jose can't believe his eyes he calls the police immediately and tells them what he saw a white ghost-like figure that would soon be known as the fresno nightcrawler wow you could throw in like a lightning bolt uh sound effect or something or like a cougar roar a whip anything
Starting point is 00:04:05 like that would be fantastic or all three at once okay on three two one everyone tunes out that was the most horrible noise they've ever heard we thought it couldn't get any louder than the intro and yet so jose calls the police now like almost every case of calling the police to report something paranormal they could not give less of a shit no they turn up starbucks in one hand donut in the other just going let's get this over with yeah they're real life cops they're going to focus on real life problems if your phone was stolen that's a police matter if your phone was stolen by the chupacabra that's out of their hands now it's paranormal it's not none of their business it's at least the manufacturer's problem yeah if you want someone to solve this you need to get ghost cops
Starting point is 00:04:58 yeah which are cops that have been killed in the line of duty enlist their help and their services to hunt ghost criminals that's right unfortunately it is often the ghost cops who are causing the problem um just because the afterlife sucks and they're just firing blanks into the sky that sort of situation so now now you need a crooked ghost cop to take down the regular ghost cops and all of a sudden you've got a problem that's too big to keep did you know that when you start a new job you get a starter form that contract isn't voided if you die no you still gotta you gotta do that job in the afterlife yeah after receiving little help from the authorities jose brought the footage he captured to the television network called univision
Starting point is 00:05:39 hoping that they could provide some answers but But Jose demanded that his face never appeared on camera and they never use his full name in an attempt to distance himself and his family from the incident. Oh, weird. Why do you think, like, he just didn't want to get too many, I don't know, like, paranormal wackos calling him up? I guess so. Myself included?
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yeah, I mean, I tried. I couldn't find him. Obviously, he's a smart man to hide his face. Yeah, this is kind of what we like to see in paranormal stories, which is someone, even if they do end up going to a television network, trying to distance themselves from the situation, refusing to use any of their personal information. Because the flip side of this is, you there's another universe where jose wrote a book about the experience and he has a tv show where he travels america trying to hunt this creature you know what an e-book an e-book a podcast possibly but what we're seeing here is him actually trying to stay out of it get this information out here but stay in the shadows i
Starting point is 00:06:44 have to respect that because that does seem like something a level-headed person would do yeah i mean it's what we do we get this information out to the public but we stay in the shadows like little goblin men hiding no one can see our hideous paranormal warped faces you think this is our real voices this is us talking through a Darth Vader toy. So the news crew showed up at his home, and after trying and failing to copy the footage from an old VHS tape, they just recorded the video straight from the screen.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Fair enough. And now the world had it. The mind-bending footage captured that night. Video evidence of the existence of the Fresno Nightcrawler. This is so exciting. Can I just say that we're getting into physical evidence already? This is insane. It's a golden nugget, my friend.
Starting point is 00:07:31 This is what I'm saying. Real quick. Oh, yeah. Roswell's pretty good. Why don't you hear a story about a guy who knew a guy who once saw a picture of the thing? I have a video of the Nightcrawler right here in front of me, and I'm going to show it to you. I cannot wait. Are you ready to have your your your world shattered this video is only 18 seconds long so it's got it's gonna be packing a punch you only need a second to change the world all right
Starting point is 00:07:57 check this out this is the footage that was recorded that night all right what yeah my thoughts exactly okay can we get a repeat on that so there's nothing for about the first five seconds and then something starts to appear in the top left corner it's essentially a pair of white trousers walking of their own accord but very creepily yeah not even like they have human legs in them. They're a bit wavy. Yeah. Almost like trousers without legs in them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:31 What the f*** is that? So that was recorded straight from... So that was his camera plugged into a TV and then they filmed it off that. Is that right? Yes. That's why the resolution is kind of shoddy. I mean, this was in 2007. It should be a lot clearer. It should be shot on an iPhone.
Starting point is 00:08:47 It should be a TikTok video, essentially. Witnesses have described the night crawlers as four-foot creatures that don't appear to have any arms. They're white in color and bipedal, which seems to imply that they are somewhat humanoid. It's just something humanoid-like, yeah. If we had to describe them, you pretty much hit the nail on the head here. This is like a pair of baggy sweatpants. A sentient
Starting point is 00:09:12 pair of baggy sweatpants flapping down the street in a really strange way. I think people have examined the footage more closely, and apparently you can see a little head with eyes at the top. I would have thought that, yeah. It looks like there's something there for sure it's very hard to describe it's not like i mean the the name nightcrawler sounds like it is a 10 foot beast rocking a six pack two
Starting point is 00:09:36 cannons for biceps claws as sharp as a vampire steak and just ready to ready to rip anything to shreds of course this is a pair of pajama bottoms floating down the street like a like a jellyfish it is a bit crawly though yeah i mean it's a pretty self-explanatory name i guess yeah but it even sounds sinister night crawlers yeah this thing doesn't crawl it creeped me out though it creeps me out because it's just like floating silently it's moving kind of like it's moving kind of like an old steamboat willy cartoon it is yeah it's like in 120 it's like the first time you saw the hobbit in 60 frames per second mode it's going a little too smooth it's also like you know if you see a ghost of a human you kind of know what you're dealing with here. It's probably someone who died in this general area who hasn't passed on because of regrets he has involving the location.
Starting point is 00:10:39 If you see this jellyfish man floating towards you, what are you going to do? What does it want? I have no idea how I would handle this situation. I think that's what's creepy, but it looks very otherworldly, I'll say. Definitely. Not something that you would make up either. What a weird design for a spirit. The footage aired on Univision and immediately took off, going viral on paranormal blogs and news outlets all over the world,
Starting point is 00:11:00 being referred to officially as the Fresno Nightcrawler. It eventually caught the attention of Fact or Faked, a popular American show that's similar to us, sets out to prove or disprove paranormal events. So Bill, tell me about your case today. Well, this particular video has been making the rounds at some of the paranormal conferences, and it's gotten really popular. This was recorded in Fresno in 2007.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Let me cue it up because I think it speaks for itself. All right. There's a creature coming from the top left of the screen. I don't know what it is, but it's not like any of the other cryptoids or Bigfoot or anything else we've seen. Is that a word? Cryptoid? I have no idea. Hey, this isn't the same footage we saw.
Starting point is 00:11:48 This is the extended cut. Oh, okay. Cool. Very long. Notice that it has a head. I've never seen anything like this before. Me neither. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I don't know what else to call it. Now, what's this one coming in here? Oh, my God! What is he doing? Anatomically speaking, I've never seen anything that looks like either of these figures before. No, I've never seen anything like it. Where was it walking toward? Towards the 7-Eleven, Chris, I think.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I forwarded a copy of this clip to Animal Control in Fresno. They have never seen anything like this, and nothing else has been reported like it I just love the like it's like wow that is so weird one guy's like where where was it going? He talking about he's the kind of guy that I feel like in all the investigations asked the really stupid questions that they have to just talk quickly to like Glaze over so that no one really acknowledges it It's like so there we have the footage of Bigfoot as you can see he's going through the cars Obviously, this is a paranormal heightened area where we see no kind of mood. Do you think he was in right? Of course, that's one thing to take into consideration
Starting point is 00:12:58 But I think right now we have to focus more on why the creatures you think is any siblings What kind of car does he drive? I also like the idea that part of their research into the case was to contact the animal control in Fresno and be like, is this an animal? They're like, you should at least know about animals before you become a cryptoid. They said cryptoid, by the way.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Which I don't think is a word but i think if you say anything that fast with that kind of music behind it anyone's gonna believe you so he doesn't look like any kind of flumper snatch i've ever seen before as you can see we captured the footage on the zimbabwe later and we're you're hitting 10 sevens across the board yeah i would i mean i'd pay to hear what that conversation was like because if you i mean if you're a professional person who's working in animal control and someone shows up and is like what is this like it's a it's like a bed sheet i don't know do you think it's alive i would be so confused as to what's happening i feel like we're also not getting the full conversation that they had with animal control because it the conversation probably really went
Starting point is 00:14:06 something like what is this i don't know a fake video like okay but if it wasn't fake what would you say it was ah jeez i don't know it's not an animal that's all we needed we got the voice clip sucker well the team in fact are faked decided i mean we're giving them some grief but they actually they did some amazing work. The team decided that there was a number of ways that this footage could have been faked. CGI. Sure. Puppets on a string.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Trousers animated using wire. Very true. But after trying a number of times to replicate the footage, they realized it was a lot harder than they originally thought. That's pretty interesting. You know, I'll take the L here. I'm off in here running my mouth uh me both brothers saying oh it's faked footage bro faked yeah nothing else nothing else for it that's that 60 year old woman she faked the footage bro she she downloaded adobe after effects bro and she just faked it. We can say these things. We can say these things, but like, it's not that easy. As Fact or Fakes just said, it's like, okay, if it's faked, what is it?
Starting point is 00:15:12 Yeah. Is it CGI? Because that's pretty f***ing hard to do. If you're going to have the balls to say that something is faked, you better have an explanation as to how it's been faked. Yeah. And like, if this person who's got the footage is like a rancher they're probably not experts in like stop motion cinema or something yeah so fresno team tell me
Starting point is 00:15:35 about your investigation it started off with a really good witness interview jose the homeowner did jose seem like a credible witness to you most certainly he was a great witness all right he says he heard his dogs barking he went looked out looked out his window, didn't see anything. This whole interview is just full of truth. So you don't think that this could have been a hoax at all? If it was, he wasn't in on it. Well, if it's not paranormal and it is a hoax, then somebody must have pulled it on Jose. So we put that to the test and we came up with a couple of ideas on how we could replicate the video. So one of them, the simplest one, was that it was simply a child walking across the yard. And even though we found a kid that was about the right height, it was simply too big.
Starting point is 00:16:13 So next was like maybe it was a puppet. So we built a mechanized puppet and we moved it on a pulley system across the yard. The problem with using the pulley system is that the puppets tend to sort of bounce because of the length of the rope. Then we moved on to maybe Larry can sort of walk the mechanized puppet across the yard on a pole. So we did that, and then I removed Larry's image in the edit bay. Within an hour, my walkie batteries died, and then our camera started to go out. We had our thermal camera with us, and we turned turned it on and here's what we got on camera. We can't say right now that we know this was faked.
Starting point is 00:16:51 You weren't able to prove the video was hoaxed. So I say this is unexplainable. Great job, guys. There we go. So fact or faked or saying it's unexplainable? Unexplainable after all of their attempts to recreate the footage through an array of different techniques, they couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:17:10 They couldn't replicate the footage. That's pretty nuts. I do have to hand it to them. They tried a number of different techniques. A couple of them came pretty close. Like they were decent attempts, but as they pointed out, it's still nowhere near the fluid motion and sort of
Starting point is 00:17:26 yeah eeriness of the original video yeah definitely so we've looked at the video of this thing moving we've looked at you know some of the possible ways this could be faked and the conclusion was that essentially it couldn't have been so what the hell is this thing kit there's a lot of different opinions on the matter some people believe it's some kind of peaceful alien. Some people believe it's a ghost or a spirit. But one of the most popular theories links the Nightcrawlers to Native American legend. According to the site Ranker.com, tribe members that live near Fresno have said that the Nightcrawlers are beings that have always lived on Earth,
Starting point is 00:18:05 even before human beings got here. According to the myths, the Nightcrawlers have long legs that allow them to move through difficult or boggy landscapes because they are swamp world beings. Whoa. Now, I tried to follow the hyperlink to the swamp world mythology. The link was broken. Okay. It got lost in the swamp somewhere so i googled uh swamp world nothing came up right i don't know what the swamp world is it's kind of a they kind of just made like a crazy open-ended statement
Starting point is 00:18:42 did a mic drop and walked off with dozens of reporters like asking questions i guess you know just based on the name alone it kind of makes sense uh if this is a creature based in the swamp world right it only it makes perfect sense that it would want to leave and come to earth because the swamp world sounds like shit. I'll be honest with you. It sounds damp. It sounds muddy. And if I had long, beautiful white legs like that, I don't want to get them covered in mud. It's very true.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yeah. Those swamp world beings probably learned that there are such things as five-star hotels these days. You don't need to live in a swamp. You could, in fact, if money was no object, live in the lap of luxury yes in the modern world exactly and we're very lucky in our world that we uh we have swamps but the world itself is not a swamp that's right you always have the option to go to a swamp whenever you want
Starting point is 00:19:37 yeah if you do so want to visit a swamp but uh you know when 24 7 day after day you're in the swamp world that can get probably a little bit grating after a while that's pretty interesting though that they came up with that um i could probably see why it might be hard to trace that information i'm sympathetic whenever i investigated the mountain devils um of when i investigated the frog people of swamp world i actually found it pretty hard to get any solid evidence i investigated literal mud whenever i investigated the mountain devils of um mount st helens for those who don't remember that episode it's a it's a fun investigation i recommend looking back at that it was a couple
Starting point is 00:20:19 weeks ago but one of the twists was that it turned out that the similar to this story the native americans of that area already knew about this creature and had a kind of lore but one of the kind of confusing aspects is that it seems to be the kind of nomenclature the names that each tribe would give to that being might vary from time to time or area to area. So it can be a little tricky to read up on. Yeah, because obviously the news stations that had to run this story, they wanted a sexy name like Nightcrawler. Sure. Whereas, you know, probably Native Americans wouldn't have called it that,
Starting point is 00:20:58 wouldn't have given it such a sexy name. Yeah. I mean, a headline saying, you know, swamp beast scene. I mean, it might get as many... That's going to sell might get some papers honestly it would have got a few clicks yeah according to the site legend has it that the beings are part of our world in order to rebuild a connection between human beings and our natural surroundings as sort of a peace bringer while they don't seem to have made any noticeable efforts of doing this so far, the fact that stories about them have existed for generations indicates they might be nothing new to Fresno. Paranormal enthusiast and founder of Weird Fresno, Michael Banti said,
Starting point is 00:21:38 they're like a dictionary of different cryptids or strange creatures. Like there's Bigfoot and the Chupacabra, but there's never been this before. No one has really been able to determine what it is. They remind me of fairy people or an extraterrestrial insectoid. Nightcrawlers like this one seen in Jose's video have been reported a number of times. The other biggest sighting being in March 2011 at Yosemite National Park. Caretakers had set up cameras to try and catch vandals at night, but instead captured two night crawlers making their way through the woods.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Holy shit. And once again, we have the footage. Really? I'm so excited. Let's see it. So here we have what looks like night vision footage almost of Yosemite Park. Yeah. With two creepy white leg-like figures walking across the field. They're unmistakably the same being. The little nub head on top and then two kind of harem pants just walking along.
Starting point is 00:22:43 This time a lot less smooth, a lot more kind of like actual human walking yeah although a little more is that a little baby one i don't know there's a little tiny one i don't know if that's a baby or if he was just further away i don't know if it's perspective thing are you sure that was official footage what are you trying to say it seemed sorry just watch yourself all right okay because you ask for evidence every time we do this show you ask for it and then i give you i haven't even opened my mouth and you're saying watch yourself like some sort of threat i just if it's not you agreeing with me and i don't want i don't want to i've agreed with you so far i don't
Starting point is 00:23:22 want to call come off as like aggressive aggressive or scared or defensive or insecure. But if you criticize the footage, I'm going to lose my mind. Okay, well, let me just get the thought out. Right, sorry. You're going to go what? Buck wild. I'm going to go buck wild with the slightest little note. This isn't a pitch.
Starting point is 00:23:43 There aren't notes. I just... You know, so many cases we struggle to get good evidence, you know? You know, what I wouldn't kill for video footage of Roswell. What I wouldn't kill for video footage. This is some weird, like, intimidation kind of racket. It's like you're trying to get me to agree to your point with the threat of violence. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:24:02 You know what? It's fine. I'll keep it chill. I'll keep it low down. Just until I get the thought, how about that? Then we can'm just saying. You know what? It's fine. I'll keep it chill. I'll keep it low down. Just until I get the thought. Yeah. How about that? Then we can go from there.
Starting point is 00:24:08 You know what? This is what this podcast is about. Is different opinions. Yeah. And two minds. Couldn't agree more. Talking about the paranormal. And coming to a conclusion.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Yeah. So shoot. It looks a tiny bit staged. Are you f***ing kidding me? Dude. It's footage. You're going so red. From Yosemite National Park. That's not how you say it. It's footage you're going so red yosemite national park you say it it's
Starting point is 00:24:27 footage of too clear too clearly did you see the baby sir they obviously have genitals and they can bang that's why there's a baby one you said it was far away it wasn't a baby i'm meeting you halfway pal all right you said that there was a baby one i'm saying there's a baby one now maybe you'll believe me if i say there's a baby one i liked the video okay that's important that's good yeah that actually really that means a lot to me that helps me you're so moving should we move on or do you want to say some other stuff about how much you love the video fine let's just move on if you want to do you want to talk about the video i don't want to say how much i love the video because i don't love the video well i will say uh that the video has 308 thumbs up and only 20 uh thumbs down so you're in the minority congratulations pal okay that's just just fact can you show me the video can you show
Starting point is 00:25:18 prove to me that that it has those thumbs up and then i close the tab i close the tab because i thought the conversation was over shift apple t T, it'll open it again. Shift Apple what now? T. That was the power button. I accidentally turned it off. So, that's that done. That's my notes gone. Well, let's just move on. We have two videos. That's two more than we usually
Starting point is 00:25:38 have. Showing the Nightcrawler in action. Yes, the second one has largely been debunked as a hoax oh wow wow i knew you were gonna bring that up you know what i'm gonna go buck wilds i started kicking shit with two white legs kick it over and over yeah the second one uh that's not real man i don't know what that is but that's not real yeah like if you don't know what that is, but that's not real. Like if you, if you watch these two videos, the first footage of the nightcrawler, I mean, this is the one that launched the investigation.
Starting point is 00:26:11 It's the most famous one. It's the one that even creates the argument as to whether or not this thing is real. From that point onward, yes, the creature has been seen a number of times in CCTV all over the world, but I mean, mean it's not it's not the same it's very much copycat footage people trying to replicate uh the look of this weird figure traveling and even in that second one at yosemite national park i mean that does look like people maybe not cgi but it does kind of look like even people in like stilts walking with bedsheets on. It's not as weirdly fluid and ghost-like as the original footage.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Yeah, it kind of leaves you with kind of conflicted thoughts because it actually shows you, first of all, how much of a fake that second video is. It's immediately visible as a hoax. Yeah. But on the flip side, it shows you that if the other ones are hoax, it's immediately visible as a hoax yeah but on the flip side it shows you that if the other ones are hoax it's an awesome hoax but yeah exactly i think that's what the team at factor faked were trying to uh get across as well as you know from interviewing jose he seems so honest about the situation and so scared of the whole ordeal that they said if it was faked jose was tricked right he was in on it yeah sorry he wasn't in on it yeah he was he was getting the
Starting point is 00:27:32 wool pulled over his eyes exactly and then it you know leads to a whole another line of conversations where you know if this team of experts couldn't replicate the footage uh to a certain degree of accuracy how complex must the original setup have been if it was faked i mean it didn't necessarily look like cgi and that's someone who has used cgi straight in their life before granted yes the fact that the the footage is video recordings of a video recording would definitely helps to mask any uh wires or any sort of trickery that was used you would also think that a new station sent out to get video capture from someone would know how to duplicate footage on a vhs tape if you're in the business of taking tapes off strangers yeah you know how
Starting point is 00:28:21 to do it you have the gear you'd think so so it's a little strange that this was the way that the the footage have had to be captured also a lot of the footage online is a video recording of a projection at a paranormal conference of the footage recorded by the news team of the footage recorded by the cctv camera 2007 folks yeah so it's i mean what you're seeing by the end is blurs and pixels it's it's really not very clear at all in reality what we need is the actual video from the tape from jose himself yeah so we're gonna crowdfund to get Jose a high definition, a goddamn iPhone 11 Pro so he can telephoto zoom in on that cryptid. That's it. And although he doesn't want his name or his family's name dragged into this situation,
Starting point is 00:29:17 Jose Martinez, you're part of it. You're part of it, pal. So, Kit, I've thrown a lot on your plate today. And I appreciate you hanging in there you didn't when you were about to fight me that was i want to i want to move past that we had a little disagreement as i said uh it turns out that that footage was faked uh had i known that going in of course you knew that probably shouldn't have brought it up it didn't help my case but i like to show both sides of the coin because i'm an honorable man i'm fine do you think that what are your thoughts regarding the nightcrawler this
Starting point is 00:29:52 is a pretty fantastical case therefore it requires fantastical evidence on the one hand we've got that it's pretty crazy to kick off this case with an absolute silver bullet piece of evidence from jose um it really is worth checking out folks it's absolutely fantastic it's very creepy it's believable but at the same time there is enough reasonable doubt thrown in here with the second piece of footage and with less reputable sightings and witnesses of other run-ins with the night crawler uh there's definitely a threat of kind of people reading this online and wanting to have their own copycat kind of experience. What almost clinches it for me is the kind of Native American...
Starting point is 00:30:34 Swamp world. Absolutely the swamp world. Do it. The Native American involvement in this. For people like these Native American folks who have absolutely no dog in the fight, who have no money on the table to come out and say yeah this is part of our history uh we've known about them
Starting point is 00:30:51 for a long time they have nothing to gain from this really that's definitely fascinating to me yeah um on that note here we go ranker.com was the site that made the claims that they had links to the Native American history and creatures and the swamp world. Googling that any further leads to absolutely nothing. Right, right. There's essentially no evidence to link them at all with any creature in Native American history. I have literally no idea where they got that information from. history i have literally no idea where they got that information from um any links to prove that were other sites claiming that other sites claimed that it was part of native american history so i'm very sorry to burst that bubble um because it sounded like you were heading towards a yes
Starting point is 00:31:38 and i feel like i kind of pulled the rug out from underneath you okay well you know they didn't have any written evidence but you know they didn't have any written evidence but you know the native american people that's an oral tradition so maybe that it wasn't online because they were orally telling each other pretty sure people followed this up and maybe like did their own research into the native american histories and there is literally nothing i can't really i can't stress this enough there is i mean there's maybe creatures in native american history that can shape shift uh-huh not in fresno oh so i'm out well don't go out that doesn't mean it's not necessarily true you know it could be other things what the did that guy say an alien insectoid or some shit that could be a thing he said it looked like usually when you say
Starting point is 00:32:23 something looks like something you have to give something that's commonly understood right you can't say it looks like and then insert a word that no one's ever seen before yeah because extraterrestrial insectoid doesn't paint any pictures in my mind no what the hell is that at best it's a cockroach and a ufo exactly he said it's either that or fairy people and i would assume those are two very different things one of them's got wings and a little wand the other one is a daddy long legs from mars which actually now that i say it could be the same thing because a daddy long legs with a little crown and a wand is pretty much a fairy so that does actually make sense so listen i'm a i'm a little
Starting point is 00:33:06 bit conflicted rory what were you thinking about all this i think the the link to native american folklore was very much the the life raft on this ship that is definitely is going down into the icy cold water yeah once that's taken away there's not much more you can float on maybe a scrap of wood a door if leonardo dicaprio is not using it sure yeah without that link i mean it's it's one thing to say that sure this is something that even when tested can't be replicated by humans yeah but it's another thing to question okay well if this thing is real what is it and why is it it doesn't look like it's the ghost of anyone it doesn't look like the place is haunted it doesn't look like there's any reason for it to be there it doesn't look like it knows what
Starting point is 00:33:55 it's doing it's literally a pair of legs walking where is it going it turns out that was the best question of all yeah that was the one that they should have doesn't have a motive and that's why it's not real i kind of liked the idea of it just being like whatever the hell they said like a peace spirit yeah i was trying to bring uh humanity together even though it hasn't done anything or it's mostly doing that by going for midnight walks yeah i i don't know i don't see any reason for this thing to exist uh which would lead me to believe that it doesn't exist it ain't real it's a double no folks um you know for such a silly looking spirit i'm surprised that how much i got into this story i mean it, it's not really... I was in. Yeah, like once you see this first footage taken by Jose,
Starting point is 00:34:49 it really does open your mind. I feel like it's really hard to describe because it doesn't really look like anything we've ever seen before. So it's a hard one to tackle. But unfortunately, without just more information about what it is and why it is, it's going to be a double no this week.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Kind of shows you the power of a good video, even if it's a hoax. Exactly. It's like a video can kind of make you believe anything. It's very true. So thank you to Nemo B for emailing in that suggestion to thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com. I think that's what he's going to ask. Guys, if you want us to investigate your paranormal stories,
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Starting point is 00:35:46 we can say whatever we want on this podcast no consequences baby but the way that happens is through patreon patreon.com where you can support us directly for as little as two bucks a month where you get a shout out on the podcast and for five bucks a month you get access to a whole backlog of incredible exclusive paranormal investigations that's only available to our exclusive paranormal commune to give you a little bit of an example of that sweet content here's a clip from this month's bonus episode what are your immediate thoughts about napoleon and his little red man first thing is if this little son of a bitch is just showing up for anyone where has he been my whole life to stop me from making my bad decisions when i bought that exercise bike right online for two grand
Starting point is 00:36:37 i didn't see you know a little red asshole telling me i was never going to use it okay well it's kind of a different scale of problem though when i did my one-man show on the west end i thought that was going to run for six months bombed week one i mean it was pretty amazing you got in the west end to begin with that's quite a feat well it cost a lot of money i had to sell my goddamn exercise bike for a start that's not a big fortune where was he then to stop me huh i was boo was booed offstage every night. But, you know, Napoleon was one of the greatest rulers the world had ever known. The scale of his problems were kind of bigger and more... Where was the little red man when I opened up my Chinese restaurant? You opened a Chinese restaurant?
Starting point is 00:37:17 I had no business doing that. Of course not. You don't know the first thing about China or food. I had to buy the freaking thing with all the money i made from my one man show you made money yes i sold a couple tickets because people heard how bad the shit was they couldn't believe the reviews well i know what you're saying but the name i'm glad you asked i didn't it's called all about the benins, a one-man show starring Rory Powers. Sounds so bad.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I play several men, all named Frank, chasing the Yankee dollar. Yeah, I'm reading the timeout review here. It says you open every act by turning to the audience, breaking the fourth wall and saying, allow me to be Frank. You know, it's pretty hard for a guy like me to make it in new york city even if i am the president's only son it's all about the benjamins it's all about chasing that money i sold my exercise bike so i could make this show so you better all like it or i'm i'm gonna be pissed off oh my god boom all right all right
Starting point is 00:38:26 just an example of some of the hilarious moments we have on our bonus episodes we really keep all the good shit for those people right it's so true if you enjoyed that clip definitely check it out and if you do subscribe to our patreon on the two dollar tier we'd like to give you a shout out at the very end of our show so thank you to marco viera they call him marco the sharko because just like the water beast he cannot live on the land oh yeah he didn't he doesn't actually have any of the cool traits of a shark like the teeth that killer instinct but he just of the cool traits of a shark, like the teeth, that killer instinct. He just has the wrinkled skin you get in the bath from being in the water too long. Yeah, he's more of a, they should call him Barnacle Marco,
Starting point is 00:39:15 because he's really just a crusty old sea dog rather than a shark. But hey, somehow he gets the podcast out at the ocean, and we're glad to have you on board. Please don't come on board, though. You'll die, Mark. Thanks also to Samantha Lightfield. Move over, Buzz Lightyear. We've got Samantha Lightfield. Samantha Lightfield to the rescue!
Starting point is 00:39:40 People don't know it, but it was actually the North Korean version of the Buzz Lightyear toy that didn't so much explore the galaxy as conquer it quite viciously. Didn't have a laser arm, but a knife. Yeah. It was quite a brutal toy to sell to children. I believe it was discontinued. Somehow, Samantha Lightfield made it all the way to this podcast, and we're glad to have her. Thanks also to Puddle White.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Puddle White sounds suspiciously close to a swamp-dwelling white nightcrawler. That's true. That's very true. Pretty interesting that you decided to show your face right after we said you didn't f***ing exist. Yeah. I wish we'd had this piece of evidence
Starting point is 00:40:23 during the show move palsy move you night crawling bastard i didn't even know that our podcast made it to the swamp world but hey that's pretty cool we don't get swamp world metrics uh or like subscriber numbers or anything like that so that's kind of cool which i think where they keep cash but i guess they are walking trousers so their pockets are pretty deep. Thanks also to Lee Jaffray. Lee Jaffray lives in a cafe. He doesn't eat or drink, really.
Starting point is 00:40:55 He just drinks coffee non-stop. Whoa. He's, uh... But what? If he's in a cafe, presumably they have, like, snacks and things. Oh, yeah yeah he could he could get like a nice croissant or a nice queen of mine or a nice uh or a nice yeah it's a french cafe of course keep up but uh or a nice intelada or a nice quesadilla i don't think it's a cafe what kind of cafe is this
Starting point is 00:41:26 he's at the disneyland cafe where they sell food from all around the world yeah he's like you know the philosopher voltaire um he like famously drank something like 50 cups of coffee a day wow really yeah lee is putting him to shame he's on a keen 97 my looking to break the 100 it's not even a guinness world record no one's come close but uh we're rooting for you lee good luck thanks also to rick they call him rick the stick in the mud from swamp world that's right we have another swamp world resident wow we We must have entered the charts in Swamp World recently because we've got a bunch of new Swamp patrons. They are pouring in with their Swamp Dollars,
Starting point is 00:42:10 which is very nice, but as I established earlier, that's mud. It is, but in this post-Brexit economy, we will take all the mud dollars we can get. So thank you, Rick. Thanks also to Jordan Tucker. Jordan Tuck lives in the muck. That's right. Yet another Swamp World patron.
Starting point is 00:42:28 However, he does have a human first name. So it seems like he emigrated to the world of the swamp. Wow. So that's interesting. That is interesting. And look, if you don't want to give us any of your swamp money, we'll settle for a couple of mud pies because we are hungry. That's right. I could go for a little dessert right now.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Me too, buddy. Send them our way. Thanks also to Tobias Andres. Kit and I have decided that we want to do an investigation live from the heart of the Bermuda Triangle. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:59 And Tobias is going to fly us. All right. We're going to hop on that plane and we're going straight into the belly of the beast i asked him point blank on the runway can you fly a plane before he could even answer i said doesn't matter you son of a bitch we don't need wings where we're going he didn't seem to want to board we had to kind of push him in um He's 15 also. He's 15 years old. So the chance that he's got his pilot's license is almost zero. Yes, but we know the Bermuda Triangle isn't cool enough to take a child's life. So we're bringing him with us as sort of like a protective shield.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Is it cool enough? Is it badass enough to take a child's life? So we are selling tickets right now to the Bermuda Triangle live show. There is a pretty generous cancellation policy on those tickets because, let's face it, we're never making it out alive. That's true. But needless to say, it's not a show to be missed. No. If you do want to come, just grab your own child, grab a flight, and head on over.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Thanks also to roberto smooth man roberto smooth man the most prickly ass rough son of a bitch i've ever seen in my life he's a cactus of a peasant he's a pineapple with eyes he is a sharp prickly individual. So pointy and awkward. He was actually evicted from the swamp world for being just too uncomfortable. Really? Yeah. Swamps are a big place. That's pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I know. So I guess he's here back in the human realm but still supporting us on Patreon which we appreciate. Thanks also to Leah Riley. I Riley Riley like this human realm but still supporting us on patreon which we appreciate thanks also to leah riley i riley riley like this girl i riley do of all the swamp people in swamp world yeah she's by far the muddiest yeah um but i feel like if there was any person from swamp world that i could promote to human world because they're below us oh of
Starting point is 00:45:07 course um i think it'd be leia i agree riley i riley riley agree thanks also to brianna pool brianna pool captain of every swim team she's ever been on did the butterfly stroke perfectly out of the womb to be born this girl is a is the is is the michael phelps of swamp world that's right i bigged her up but she is still a goblin in swamp world of course and so nowhere near the speeds of michael phelps of course because phelps gets to swim in water but the swamp people have to swim in a swamp. Swamp mud, mostly. Yeah, it's actually pretty hard. If they actually made it to the human world where they could swim in water, they'd probably be the best in the goddamn country.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Yeah, pretty yoked. But that's why we have to banish her to the swamp world. Yeah. But hey, you're doing great work down there. I'm glad you're enjoying the podcast. Thanks also to Model and Zen. You know, I like the approach of instead of having a name, just calling yourself the things you want to be.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Yeah. A Model and Zen. Pretty chill about the whole situation. But also a smoke show. Yeah. By all accounts. Yeah. I mean, that's, I feel like you'd be pretty Zen if you were a goddamn 10 out of 10.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Of course. You don't have that many problems when you're that gorgeous you're not gonna want to be a uggo and zen yeah and obviously i'm model level but i'm angry at everything frankly um so i need to work on the zen bit if i had to choose yeah Yoked and a pimp. So not Zen. Still pretty angry. Yeah, I don't care about being angry. I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 00:46:52 That's been my whole life. So whatever. I just want to be hot and still angry. Thanks also to Scott Littlewood. Scott Littlewood is a name you can trust. You know, it's not intimidating. It sounds pretty friendly. Sure. Scott Littlewood. That's you can trust, you know? It's not intimidating. It sounds pretty friendly. Sure.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Scott Littlewood. That's a really outstanding guy. Yeah. That's why I think they trusted him with the contract to the Forest Services, even though he was the owner of the largest lumberjacking company in North America. What? Yeah. It turns out Littlewood was like, i want the woods to be as little as
Starting point is 00:47:25 possible i want them to be stumps so um they gave him the keys to the forest essentially that's insane he cut it down day one he was like the whole thing the whole thing he's like well my name is he's serious my name is little wood and now yeah it's pretty little it's goddamn kindling but of course he made a billion dollars off the deal and now here he is giving it back to the people who supported him so we got him into government we voted little wood that's right shit I don't regret a thing thanks last but not leastly to Andrew Steen Andrew Steen took my goddamn spleen. Are you serious?
Starting point is 00:48:07 Yeah, we were walking down an alleyway in downtown Los Angeles, and he said, hey, you want to see a cryptid? And I said, sure, what do you got? He took me down the back of an alley and clobbered me only over the head with a glass bottle. Wow. I come to with a 10-inch scar
Starting point is 00:48:23 from my neck to my nuts only 10 inches and i could i don't even need to feel around i can feel it the second i come to my spleen's gone he's serious he jacked it straight from your neck to your nuts he could have he had carte blanche to every organ available he's a good guy at heart he could have taken my heart he could have taken my lungs but he went for the spleen he means well no he doesn't he almost killed you he probably i'm sure he had his reasons he's a good guy really i think he just sell sold your organ that's fair he probably needed the cash he doesn't he's giving it back he's pretty big into meth that usually is
Starting point is 00:49:15 why he needs a lot of money sometimes i guess that means he needs money yeah so thank you andrew for listening to the podcast and thank you to everyone that we shouted out if you're waiting on your shout out it's just around the corner don't worry about it we're on it guys thank, for listening to the podcast. And thank you to everyone that we shouted out. If you're waiting on your shout out, it's just around the corner. Don't worry about it. We're on it, guys. Thank you for listening to this week's episode of This Paranormal Life. Unfortunately, two no's this week, but hell, I can feel that yes right around the corner. We will see you next week, folks, for a brand new episode of This Paranormal Life.

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