This Paranormal Life - #161 Uri Geller: A Real Life Telekinetic Psychic Agent?

Episode Date: April 21, 2020

One of the most famous and controversial people in Paranormal history, Israeli Psychic Uri Geller is famous for his ability to bend metal using the power of his mind. But it turns out his paranormal a...bilities extend much further...Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityAdvertise on This Paranormal Life via Gumball.fmIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Which cryptids have telekinetic abilities? Is it possible for the average person to go Super Saiyan? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life! Hey! Welcome back to This Paranormal Life. This is the weekly comedy podcast where every Tuesday we investigate a different paranormal case, tale, claim, and get to the bottom of whether it's truly paranormal or not. As always, you're joined by two professional paranormal investigators, myself, Mr. Kit Grimmelvena, this guy, Mr. Rory Powers.
Starting point is 00:00:34 How are you doing today, Rory? I'm doing great. And look, I hate to, you know, slow us down already from the get-go. Whoa. But the big question, can a regular person become a super saiyan yes unfortunately saiyan is a type of person so unless you are a saiyan you would not be able to achieve super saiyan it's like asking if a human could go super turtle merely a turtle could go super turtle that would make sense because i did watch a video on youtube maybe you've seen it of a young
Starting point is 00:01:03 young boy trying to go super saiyan on youtube yeah i recommend people check that one out because he gives it a fair effort he gives it well in my defense i didn't work it out by then all right i never connected the two yeah you're you're the boy i am the boy and i actually i tried pretty hard to go super saiyan and grim reality slapped me on the face it could be that just you couldn't go super saiyan and grim reality slapped me on the face it could be that just you couldn't go super saiyan it could still be that others that even i could go super saiyan i haven't given it a try yet so who knows i think if anyone's gonna go super saiyan it's gonna be me uh i have the heart i have of a warrior right don't have the hair though you
Starting point is 00:01:40 watch it you watch your goddamn mouth please take your hand off my throat it's not it's not very super saiyan i started screaming but we digress we're not here to talk about going super saiyan exactly today we have as usual a brand new paranormal investigation for you so let's dive right in the year rory is 1973 it's nove November and we're at BBC headquarters in London. BBC Radio 2, Jimmy Young. Beloved radio host Jimmy Young is interviewing a young man, only in his 20s, rumoured to possess paranormal abilities. Welcome everyone. Soon we'll be talking about the ongoing ambulance
Starting point is 00:02:25 strikes and a record low unemployment rate in the UK. But first I'm joined by Mr. Uri Geller. Hello Uri. Hello Jimmy, thanks for having me. Now many of you might not have heard of Uri, but Uri is a psychic from Tel Aviv. Uri, I understand that you've been able to use your psychic abilities to move objects with your mind, is that fair to say? Yes, that's right. Amongst other things. That is something. We've heard that you are able to bend metal objects like keys or nails just by touching them lightly
Starting point is 00:02:51 and even start up a broken clock. When did you first realize you could do these things? Oh, I have really always known about these things. Ever since my first years at school. I would surprise my family, friends and teachers, even myself by bending and moving things. Really, I am as surprised as anyone when it happens. If you don't mind, could you demonstrate for me? I'll tell you what. I have a key here, my own house key in fact.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Could you try to bend that? Sure, okay. Uri took hold of the key and began focusing on it very intently. And can I just say, for anyone at home, if there are any broken watches in your house, please concentrate on them and try and make them work. Just take them in your hand and concentrate on them. So Uri is now concentrating on the key, just rubbing it very gently. And good lord! It's bending right in front of me! I can't believe it! He had done it. Right there in the studio, on command, Uri Geller had bent Jimmy Young's house key.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And they even had this photo taken right afterwards as evidence. Wow. It's all there in the photo guys not a huge bend but definitely bent definitely bent i mean to the point where jimmy young uh notoriously went home that night after the broadcast and was unable to get into his house uh supposedly had to climb through his own like first floor window the police were passing by they stopped they were like where are you going sir uh and he has to explain that a psychic bent my house key out of shape he was arrested on the spot i thought you were gonna say famously that night uh young went home and tore up all the bibles in his house claiming that his whole existence was a lie so you're saying you're satanist or something no no i never said satan. I'll praise the Dark Lord right here and now if I can bend some keys.
Starting point is 00:04:48 So, as the amazed Jimmy continued to interview Uri, Uri felt relaxed and confident, having just blown everyone's mind in the studio. Although he became worried as soon as he noticed people running around frantically in the background. First one person, then several, running around frantically in the background. First one person, then several, running around carrying sheets of paper. It was then that a producer burst through the studio door. It's the switchboards! They're lit up like a Christmas tree! We have hundreds of calls coming in from all over! The callers, who had been listening live, were claiming that in their home, as they listened to the radio interview with Uri,
Starting point is 00:05:27 nails, forks, spoons and knives spontaneously started bending out of shape in front of their eyes. Whoa. A lady from Harrow reported that she was stirring soup when suddenly the ladle started bending backwards. A girl in the Surrey stared in disbelief at her wrist as her own bracelet buckled and bent before her very eyes. A police constable said that several knives and spoons had curled up in his kitchen. A jeweler called to say that half the pieces
Starting point is 00:05:58 on a tray of cutlery bent. A watchmaker claimed that his tweezers had done the very same. There were even reports of watches and clocks starting up that hadn't run for years. Wow, just like he said. Just like he said. In trying to explain this bizarre phenomenon years later, Uri would say, I had half expected this to happen. I thought that if people really wanted things to happen in their homes and really concentrate,
Starting point is 00:06:26 I could trigger it because what I do could serve to release the same energy in other people. But I was still astounded that so many calls had come in from so many places. It's kind of irresponsible if you were like, yeah, I kind of figured this would happen it's like a boeing 737 bent in the sky and then come tumble to the ground the toyota of a family of four bent 90 degrees separating fathers from children it's like the golden gate bridge itself did a loop the loop p it was like a level from sonic green zone have you seen inception the world just folded in on itself yeah i mean if you had half an idea that might happen it's a bit like the scientists at cern you shouldn't be rolling the dice with these things exactly and then what
Starting point is 00:07:17 happens that do they have to bring them back in and be like can you unfold it that i cannot do i can only bend further. Rory, right off the bat, have you ever heard of such a thing? No, never in my entire life. Except for in the popular movie, The Matrix, where Neo has to learn not only how to bend a spoon, but to realize that there is no spoon. Should we find that exact dialogue? I want to know what they say in the matrix yeah i'm pretty sure the message behind it is that it's him understanding that
Starting point is 00:07:49 the matrix isn't real it doesn't exist you can bend it because it's not a real object which obviously as a kid i did not grasp i was like got it he's magic got it i put the ethernet port in my neck and i can bend spoons and i'm i'm superman i'm sitting there with an xlr cable taped to the back of my head trying to bend a wooden spoon the bitch won't bend i don't have any metal ones no kit you don't understand he's not magic he's just in the matrix i just saw the mother fly and stop bullets with his pinkies yeah i'm pretty sure he's a wizard i think we've covered surprisingly little telekinetic abilities here in this paranormal life and yes it is partially out of envy but um you know we're here today as the bigger men willing to learn and willing to
Starting point is 00:08:38 investigate but you see if i don't learn anything if you rat card telekinetic mutants, keep that sweet, sweet ability to yourself. Yeah. After this episode of investigation, I'm going to be mad. Yeah. I'm going to blacklist telekinetic investigations from now on. And you know, I don't care how long it takes.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I don't care if it's 40 years. If I have to go up into the mountains and study the ancient arts to be able to bend this spoon, that's fine i would prefer a podcast though if you could put the information in a podcast i'd rather not i i'm not like a great hiker i don't like hiking well don't like don't draw it out that's the worst case scenario if it could be like a weekend thing yeah sure that would be obviously better honestly like a midweek after
Starting point is 00:09:20 like after work kind of thing that would be ideal if i could just swing by swing by at like a training center and just yeah like a one hour kind of little workshop a zoom chat let's zoom chat why leave the house i got spoons you you got your mind just yeah just we'll do it over zoom that works out they bend your laptop no you learn the telekinetic abilities, but you can only bend the things that you love. The worst superpower of all time. Loved ones, expensive equipment that you own, such as your phone, TV. That's when you try and bend your ex-wife and it doesn't happen and you're like, my god, there was no love here. This was the first real taste the world had got of Uri Geller's mind-bending and key-bending psychic abilities. It was the first steps in a controversial paranormal career that would span
Starting point is 00:10:14 decades, turning Uri into one of the most famous people on earth. Uri left the BBC studios that night and returned to his hotel room in Hyde Park. There were already reporters waiting for him. Sean Belton, the Manchester Evening News. Can you tell us how you really found those spoons? Media outlets representing countries from all over the world. They wanted to know how he did it and wanted to see him replicate his abilities for themselves. You might be slightly sensing where this story goes in the long term by the fact that that would never happen today. Yeah. CNN aren't interested yeah yeah it's not gonna happen the guardian aren't gonna write an article on it there's definitely a higher bar for evidence these days but i appreciate that back then they were willing
Starting point is 00:10:55 to go on the line and investigate a paranormal psychic back in these days you have a reporter from every mainstream outlet and also probably the chief of police and head of fbi in your room asking you to bend a nine millimeter in front of them seeing if they can weaponize you turn the gun back on me bend the barrel some real magneto shit they want magneto flying over afghanistan bending the the Taliban's weapons back on them. I mean, for Christ's sake, by the time Uri left the hotel room the next day, he was seeing newspaper headlines in the stands reading, Uri puts Britain in a twist. This story was everywhere.
Starting point is 00:11:37 The thing was, Uri wasn't even that surprised. Just a few months previously, he had performed the same demonstration on a radio show in Texas. He felt the interview had gone well, the same as with Jimmy Young, but was still surprised to receive a letter a few days later. It was addressed from the Texas Attorney General's office. Three employees there had signed a letter to say they were listening in on the radio broadcast, and just for fun, they thought, let's put some metal objects here on the table, and we'll all sit around and concentrate on it. Not a lot going on, obviously, in the Attorney General's office that day. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:12 That's what happens when you got the death penalty. There's not a lot of, like, paperwork. You just, everyone gets sent down. To their amazement, they watched as a spoon handle bent 45 degrees, a key snapped in half and a paper clip straight up disappeared wait what i'm starting to think that last one might have fell off the table i don't see why bending it would have made it disappear yeah that paper clip had an agenda it's not just bending it straight up left the universe that That's insane. So these people are like magic simply by association. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Like he said, this is something we haven't talked about in the show before, but simply by proxy, by hearing Uri do it firsthand, and by concentrating their own minds, it's as if a signal went through the radio waves out into the nation and then was magnified by people's consciousness and they were able to bend the objects in their own home you know we do see a little bit of this uh in the world of the paranormal take mediums for example you know people who specialize in communicating with ghosts and spirits they get a whole bunch of nobodies
Starting point is 00:13:20 into their little den and they go hey i'm a pro at this if we all hold hands uh you normies will be able to hear and and be able to detect the signals from spirits of the afterlife yeah you know that sort of like connection that people can have uh people who claim to have special abilities being able to transmit them to regular joes it's a very very interesting premise and something that like i say if we can learn this shit we can market this at a high value i'll give you a high five and then you can bend shit that sounds like that's a pretty lucrative offer yeah so whilst uri had a little foreshadowing of what might happen in the uk still how was he to know that it would have the huge impact it did after Jimmy Young's show. After these radio appearances, 1973 and 1974 would become busy years for Uri, with countless primetime television interviews
Starting point is 00:14:13 in the UK and US. On each, the format would be simple. Go out there, smile and wave, demonstrate your psychic abilities on camera for the millions of people tuning in at home, and cash the check. This was easy for Uri. Uri would describe hidden drawings using telekinesis, make clocks run faster or slower at the press and they kind of like chase him into a restaurant and they're all like yuri yuri over here yuri yuri please let me see what it does he's like please please everyone back away from me yuri yuri over here you go that's enough and every spoon and fork in the restaurant would like curl up like a witch's toe and then he's like i didn't want to have to do that and the newspapers the next day would be like mutant freak in danger's entire country
Starting point is 00:15:13 and as he's reading it alone in his apartment all he hears from the shadows is and sam jackson appears out of the shadows and he goes very interesting the man who can bend everything except human will to like him. What do you want? I'm putting together a team, Yuri. A team of gifted freaks who can bend everything. You think you can just run around bending stuff? Thinking the people would leave you alone?
Starting point is 00:15:41 No, we stay in the shadows. Humans will not understand our kind. Anytime he leaves the house after that, he's in the shadows humans will not understand our kind anytime he leaves the house after that he's in the baseball cap and sunglasses yeah gotta lay low gotta lay low after the restaurant gate putting together a team you bend spoons lisa bends food george he bends books almost completely useless and dave is immortal. Wow, what? He can't die? Yeah, he was like the first one we got in. We thought it was going to be pretty much all at his level.
Starting point is 00:16:12 But it's been mainly benders since that. Yeah, we're still more useless than the average police squad at this point. I'm not going to lie to you. You're probably not going to see a lot of action. Because we just send in Dave. And that son of a bitch can't die. He can pretty much solve every problem but there will come a day when a weapon needs to be bent at a slight angle to miss the earth and then we'll we might send
Starting point is 00:16:35 dave we might actually send dave because he could probably just uh just walk into the control room yeah soak up a thousand bullets and uh and reprogram the thing so because he's also a genius yeah he's a genius as well he's not strong but with the immortal thing and the genius thing he gets the results in the end yeah so so you're saying you need me because he's weak he is pretty strong he is pretty strong oh stronger than you absolutely yeah no you're weak as all shit he could bend you in half like a second he can actually bend you don't need a bender he can bend humans i said he can't bend metal he hasn't tried though he probably could he's strong as shit never asked we're scared of him actually i'll text him right now and then you don't you don't even have to come if he says yes oh he got he got back he can't sorry to waste your
Starting point is 00:17:18 time bro i love that we don't actually know uh all of his capabilities because we're actually kind of afraid of him uh we don't talk to him much we you don't actually know all of his capabilities because we're actually kind of afraid of him. We don't talk to him much. You don't want to poke a bear that can't die. We actually need you to bend his neck to the point where he can't come back to life because he's being a little villainous lately. We're starting a new team, I said.
Starting point is 00:17:40 The old team is f***ed. That's right. Uri would perform all these incredible psychic feats on live television and he claimed crucially that he achieved these feats through willpower and strength of mind alone. But Rory as much as everyone loved these displays of clear psychic ability Uri had a dark secret in his past. A nugget of information which he didn't want people to know. He wasn't just a psychic. He was also a magician. That's right, a dirty, run-of-the-mill, pick-a-card-any-card type of pull-a-rabbit-out-of-a-hat asshole. Needless to say, this f***ed with his
Starting point is 00:18:20 image of being a genuine paranormal psychic massively. That's like trying to say that you're a policeman after leading a life of non-stop crime. Exactly, yeah. You can't get away with that kind of thing. You can't say you've been faking it all these years and then say you're suddenly the real deal. That's true. So in his 1975 book, My Story, Uri came clean saying, look, yes, in the past, I might have used a mixture of traditional magic tricks, sleight of hand, misdirection and suggestion, some real Derren Braun type shit, mixed in with the psychic abilities, just to make a bigger and better show for people. But I don't engage in that anymore. Nah, I'm going 100% psychic.
Starting point is 00:19:03 If you have psychic abilities, you shouldn't still need the tricks to get people on board the psychic ability is the show that's incredible that's like saying like sure yeah i can fly but i gotta warm up the crowd a little bit by doing the hoop thing i don't know i kind of see this line of thought because how do you get, you already even get into trying to bend stuff with your mind. How do you get into trying to like use the very 110% limit of your human consciousness to bend material reality? Other than if you're already trying to like manifest tricks, you know, pull rabbits out of hats and do amazing feats of misdirection. Yeah, I got to say, you know, I mean, we're self-quarantining.
Starting point is 00:19:50 We're in lockdown. Got a little more free time lately. And I still haven't tried to sit down and bend things with my mind yet. So you are right. I mean, that is the line of work that would lead you down that path for sure. But it does muddy your claims. It certainly muddies it. And the fact that Yuri used to be a magician wasn't the only piece of his story that was muddy and confusing. In fact, the more you read about him, the more it seems
Starting point is 00:20:18 like throughout his life, his story has changed to suit him at different times. For example, in 1974, like in the interview with Jimmy Young, Uri is claiming that he was just always able to move things with his mind. As a kid, he would do it in school, surprising everyone around him, including himself. Problem is, the man who gave Uri his start, Andrija Pujaric, a Croatian-American doctor and parapsychologist who actually first endorsed Uri as a true psychic in 1971, says that he hypnotized Uri. And while under hypnosis, Uri claimed he had been sent to Earth by extraterrestrials using a spaceship from a planet 53,000 light years away and that his psychic abilities are because he's an extraterrestrial okay wow that that's
Starting point is 00:21:05 really ramping up here long story short he was on jimmy young on the bbc he was giving everyone the clark kent story yeah yeah i've always been a little strong for my age sure yeah and then under hypnosis he's given the superman story i'm from another planet my abilities are normal for my planet yeah because correct me if i'm wrong but uh that is the case with superman right he's only a god compared to humans like pretty much on his home planet of krypton krypton am i right yeah why not why why not uh they're all pretty good they're all pretty beefy i seem to remember if they're all on Krypton, isn't that the shit that makes them all weak?
Starting point is 00:21:47 Maybe that's it. Maybe because he got blasted off of Krypton, he became a god again. That's a really good point. I don't know. People are probably going to tell us. I do know the strength thing is because the gravity on Krypton was like 10 times higher than Earth.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Okay. So whenever he gets to Earth, suddenly he's got hops. Yeah. He can like dunk from half court. He was like 10 times higher than Earth. Okay. So whenever he gets to Earth, he suddenly has got hops. Yeah. He can like dunk from half court. He was like two inches. Everyone's like two inches high on Krypton. Yeah, but he grew to like 6'4".
Starting point is 00:22:13 So needless to say, when this came out in the media, people wanted to know what was real. Yuri, there's been some crazy stuff in the news saying that you're from outer space. Do you really believe this stuff? Which story is true? Yuri, there's been some crazy stuff in the news saying that you're from outer space. Do you really believe this stuff? Which story is true? No, no, no. There's really no space fantasy.
Starting point is 00:22:35 To be clear, I'm not from outer space. My powers are just manifested through force of will, through harnessing the power of the mind. Although I will say there is a slight possibility that some of my energies do have extraterrestrial connections. Right, so you did say that there are extraterrestrial connections to your powers. No, no. Like I said, I was a kid. I could just, you know, I would bend the spoon in my lunchbox. Of course.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Nothing more than that. However, I have always felt a kinship with now yeah here there we go now there's the alien thing well I just I just said that I think they're cool that's all all right Jesus Christ we're gonna break this down Yuri all right age two sure age two tell me2. Well, I don't really remember much on account of being 53,000 light years. All right. On account of... Now you're taking words out of my mouth. I didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Whatever you're going to say is that's off of Earth, Yuri. I don't... You use light years as a measurement. Right. But that's because I'm from Israel. It's 53,000 meters away, probably. I meant to say meters, not light years. Okay. Year of number four?
Starting point is 00:23:55 Four. Oh, I spent most of that year living on the cloud moons of Tel Aviv. Tel Aviv, Israel. The cloud moons of Tel Aviv. It's a kindergarten in Tel Aviv, Israel. Age six, Yuri. By that time, I was personal psychic to overlord Zonktar. Okay. All right, Yuri. Look, ages two and four are irrelevant now, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:24:17 Because you're the private psychic to Lord Zonktar. Right. Who doesn't live in Tel Aviv? Oh, Zonktar absolutely lives in Tel Aviv. Let me set the record straight. That's just a nickname we give him. He was the principal of the kindergarten. All right, I've had enough of this. I'm going to call the police.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Oh, my phone. It's bending. Put it down, Gregory. Is there a problem? Not now, Zongtar. Do you want me to melt his brains? No. Not again.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Not another one okay so we went slightly off script there but uri genuinely said in interview there is a slight possibility my energies are extraterrestrial okay then in 2007 in an interview with a german newspaper he seemed to set the record straight, saying, Look, I no longer say that I have supernatural powers. I'm an entertainer. I want to do a good show. Kids, forget the paranormal. Forget spoon bending. Instead of that, focus on school. Go to university. Never smoke and never touch drugs. However, then in 2008, while filming the German TV show, The Next Uri Geller,
Starting point is 00:25:28 he stated directly into the camera that he does not have any supernatural powers before winking straight into the camera. Okay, with pupil-less eyes, by the way. This is the boy who cried wolf, claiming there's a a wolf getting eaten by the wolf sure and then saying on tv that he's the wolf this is so confusing he is bending spoons he is bending the truth he's bending his own history his own life i it's it's going to be very hard to take anything this person says seriously anymore once they've lied this much he seems to completely tailor his life story for whoever he happens to be speaking
Starting point is 00:26:11 to at that very moment yeah and backtracking even further when just last year he wrote a letter to Theresa May allegedly saying I will telepathically stop you from leading Britain out of the European Union. And believe me, I am capable of executing it. How? Using psychic abilities. He wrote to Theresa May saying he was going to hijack her brain. Who let him do that? But if there's one group who Uri really pissed off with all this shit talking, it was magicians.
Starting point is 00:26:45 They believed he was taking their life's work, their art form, their craft, and turning it into a freak show. Claiming that he was from another planet. Claiming that he's better than mere magicians. Now personally, when I think of magicians, I think of a bunch of losers, but these guys were loud.
Starting point is 00:27:01 In 1975, the New York Times even ran the story, Magicians Term Israeli Psychic a Fraud. were loud in 1975 the new york times even ran the story magicians term israeli psychic a fraud they were trying to drag his name through the dirt it's got to be tough to be a magician in a world where a wizard shows up because all of a sudden your abilities are kind of paled in comparison sure you know because sure maybe you can you pull a rabbit from a hat sure maybe you can even if you are prestige style dunking yourself in vats of water and appearing on rafters yeah the wizard with the most effortless flick of his little dumbledore wand will turn a man into milk in front of your very eyes which is the first thing all wizards go to do
Starting point is 00:27:48 of course it's like lesson 001 at wizard school yeah that's even darker than the dark arts the milky arts all right that's in harry potter that's one of the like uh what do they call them the like forbidden spells you got a vaticavra or whatever. The one that kills people, the torture one. And then you got the milkman. Turns a human into low fat milk. You go lactosis and they just completely explode into a pile of milk. But you're quite right.
Starting point is 00:28:19 The magicians in the era of the wizard, they're the horse drawn cart guys in the era of the Tesla. Yeah, learn to code or some shit because it's over. Believe it or not, Uri had even bigger trouble than just bad press. There was one magician that made it his mission to shut Uri down once and for all. James Randi. It's 1973 and Uri Geller is about to have the biggest night of his life. He is set to appear on The Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson,
Starting point is 00:28:50 a primetime show that at its peak was airing live to 19 million Americans. He's about to f*** up soups and stews around the nation. Uri just had to go there, charm the audience with his usual routine had to go there, charm the audience with his usual routine, chat to Johnny, bend a few spoons, and basically bask in the standing ovation from millions of Americans that would follow. And then we have a gentleman you may have seen, you possibly have read about. He's been on television before. His name is Uri Geller. He is known as, or claims to have, psychokinetic powers, and that is the power to affect objects sometimes by moving them, bending them, by lightly touching them, by defining numbers or the throw of a dice when they're in a box.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Some people have said he's a fraud. A lot of other people have great belief in what he does. But tonight, we hope we're going to have some most interesting experience. Johnny Carson used to be a magician himself. So he was deeply skeptical of the claims Uri was making. You might have even been able to hear that in his tone. He was trying to be balanced in the intro, but he's like, hey, some people think he's a fraud. We're going to have an interesting night.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Let's see what happens. I appreciate his open-mindedness. He had even teamed up with none other than magician James Randi to put together a little surprise for Uri. Uri walked out to applause, smiled and waved, shook Johnny's hand and sat down waiting for his first question. But Johnny wasn't interested in interviewing him. Johnny said, hey, Uri, here's a table of tests for you. Why don't you give it a go?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Hey, I'll try it when I feel up to it, okay? And as Uri leaned in and looked closer at the tests, with Johnny Carson to his left, a celebrity guest to his right, and 19 million Americans all across America watching him through the camera lens in front of him, he realized they'd swapped out his entire setup. million Americans all across America watching him through the camera lens in front of him, he realized they'd swapped out his entire setup. Nothing he had agreed to work on was there. They had replaced everything with different tests. Uri called Johnny out then and there. He said, hey, this isn't what we agreed. I talked to
Starting point is 00:31:01 your people in advance and backstage. We agreed on the tests. I even just bent a guy's key backstage, like one of your technicians. And so began 22 full minutes of agonizingly slow and awkward TV as Johnny pressed Uri to move things and Uri resisting, saying he felt pressurized and like he had been set up to fail is this recorded can you watch this the whole thing is on youtube oh my god that's painful basically uri trying and failing occasionally to do it but otherwise kind of just being glum about it and kind of kind of just calling him out and being like hey this isn't what we agreed like i don't know why you think i can do this because we agreed to something different right later uri said i sat there for 22 minutes, humiliated.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I went back to my hotel, devastated. I was about to pack up the next day and go back to Tel Aviv. I thought, that's it. I'm destroyed. Everyone had got what they wanted, except Uri. Johnny Carson got to humiliate the psychic, expose the magic scam artist live on television, and got some fantastic ratings to go with it. James Randi and his league of magicians had proved Uri's believers wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:16 There was now only one explanation. Uri was a fraud. Or was he? Because Rory, over four decades later, only three years ago, in 2017, a piece of information was released to the public that would rewrite Uri's history. A declassified CIA document that contained these words. What? As a result of Geller's success in this experimental period, we consider that he has demonstrated his paranormal perceptual ability in a convincing and unambiguous manner. In 2017, some 12 million pages of internal CIA documents became declassified, crucially including Uri Geller's entire involvement in a little paranormal research project called Stargate. But to find out more about this, you're gonna have to tune in to the next episode of This Paranormal Life.
Starting point is 00:33:14 What? Oh my god. We're just getting started, folks. The spoon is wiggling. It hasn't even bent yet. This story is way bigger than f***ing spoon bending. I'll tell you that much in advance. He bent a nation at one point. It's just a little hint of what's to come. As if the f***ing CIA are running experiments on this guy. You said earlier about weaponizing this shit.
Starting point is 00:33:39 You think they're not trying to weaponize? Anyway, we're going to get into it. Yeah, Yuri's going to be bending stuff. You think we're done with a mortal Dave? He is stronger than... He just ate the f***ing sun. He just went one bit at a time. He can't die.
Starting point is 00:33:53 So if he just goes a bit at a time... He can eat the whole thing. It might take a long time. Sure. I cannot wait for part two. This is huge. You know, I think a lot of people out there, especially some of the older listeners at home,
Starting point is 00:34:05 they know Uri Geller. He was incredibly famous. But what I didn't know going into this was the sheer length of his paranormal career and how weird things got, especially in the last few years since he's been able to talk about his work with the CIA and everything else.
Starting point is 00:34:22 So listen, this telekinesis stuff, this is big paranormal business. I'm very excited. I hope you guys have enjoyed this episode of This Paranormal Life and you're going to tune in next week to find out what happens next. But if you just cannot wait until next week and you need more of This Paranormal Life in your life, check out patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life. This is the way we keep this
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Starting point is 00:35:40 what happened frenzy it's it's like at the end of a james bond movie where they're dangling him over the fish tank what are you going to do what are you going to feed the sharks there's only one james bond wrong there are 28 other secret agents 001 23 all the way up to 28 that's right all these bonus episodes you can get over on patreon.com and at the end of every episode we like to take the time to shout out those who've supported us on patreon let's go thank you so much to luke westwood luke westwood has the best wood that's right get yourself down to luke's construction bridges doors chairs chairs in the shape of doors he's got it all baby get yourself down there and get some of that good wood. I do have
Starting point is 00:36:26 one little note or complaint. I did buy a chair there recently. It was just a f***ing door. He just sent me a... He said it would be a chair that looked like a door. Just a door. It was a door flat on the ground. You can kind of sit on it like a raft. Well, I guess he's technically right there. Thank you to Travis
Starting point is 00:36:41 Spicer. Travis Spicer, you've got to start being a little nicer, man. Because anytime you're walking around the commune and someone's like, hey man, do you want a beer? Boom, slap it out of their hand. You want a sandwich? Boom, slap it out of your hand. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:56 It's just a little rude and I think we'd all appreciate it if, at least just slap the people who deserve it. You can still be mean. There are a lot of people who deserve it. Just be mean in the right direction. Thank you to Lance Natonski. Well, if it isn't Lance Ranch Natonski,
Starting point is 00:37:12 you'd think that he might own a ranch. Or be a cowboy. No. No? He's a city boy. He invented ranch. The dipping sauce? That's right. Mike, I owe you a whole lot of gratitude, my friend. Can you imagine the royalties?
Starting point is 00:37:27 Every dip that someone dips. That's a dollar. That's a dollar. That's a dollar dab. It's a very expensive dip. My God, thank you for giving us some of your delicious fortune. Thank you to Oli Green. Oli Molly Green.
Starting point is 00:37:40 He's got everything you need. You know what it is. He's got the green. He's got the mollies. He's got whatever you want. He know what it is. He's got the green. He's got the mollies. He's got whatever you want. He's a drug dealer. No. What?
Starting point is 00:37:49 Molly and Green, they are puppies. He owns a pet shop. What are you talking about drugs? You're making things weird. It was the voice you did as well. It was kind of... My pet shop owner voice. Yeah, that's pretty weird.
Starting point is 00:38:02 You want a puppy? You want a puppy? You want a puppy? No, I don't want a... You want a parakeet? No, I don't want a parakeet. I've got some exotic animals out back if you want to see them. Ha ha. Why did you wink when you said that?
Starting point is 00:38:12 Are they drugs? Because I don't. Are they... Ha ha ha. I was lying. The exotic animals are drugs. Thank you to Katie Flowers. If you want a flower, come on down to Katie's Flowers.
Starting point is 00:38:24 She's got every type of flower. Big flowers, little flowers. You know, flowers in a bunch. Wild flowers. Indoor flowers. Can I get a bunch of roses? What the f*** is a rose? I said we got flowers, my friend.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Flowers. Right, it's one of the most famous flowers. Well, I don't know all the flowers. We've got everything. Just trust me that we've got everything. I don't know what a rose is. Can I speak to Katie, please? I'm Katie.
Starting point is 00:38:49 What? It's mostly a marketing tool. You know, I give myself a nice name. People find me approachable. My name? You're so aggressive, by the way. My name? You're not approachable.
Starting point is 00:38:59 He's Bunt Dodson. You can see why I wouldn't sell a lot of flowers with that kind of name. So I call myself Katie Flowers Come on Don Bunt you don't have any flowers I asked for a single rose Well I probably I don't listen
Starting point is 00:39:11 I don't keep track Of every flower I have So I probably have them Just come Don I don't No I'm scared of you Alright F*** you
Starting point is 00:39:19 I don't need your business I'm Katie Flowers Bitch I don't need anyone Bankrupt day one Thank you to Maggie Mawson Did a volcano erupt Cause there's a lot of magma
Starting point is 00:39:33 Over on Patreon There's a lot to go on here Maggie Magma Like Maggie Moss anyway Thank you Maggie Your support for us is red hot. It's burning. It's explosive.
Starting point is 00:39:47 It's on fire. It's dangerous. Yeah, exactly. We just can't get enough. We're diving in. Thank you to C*** Squid. Wow! Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:56 You cannot say that in the UK. Not in 2020, year of Luigi. My good lord. We investigate a lot of creepy things on a paranormal podcast, but that's a's that's pretty That's a paranormal word. I don't want to investigate it Thank you to danielle rose and on the third day danielle rose from the bread Whoa, wait, what she's a baker. Okay, she didn't die. So she just baked but it's not that impressive
Starting point is 00:40:21 It's a bit like the flowers, but you got it Listen, you got it when you want to advertise something these days you got to get snazzy you got to get inventive You know Danielle rose rose rose her boat all the way to the bread factory I just got an email she she wants with the money back. She said she's disappointed with the shout-out She said the money was actually for me to do an ad campaign So it's kind of startling that she's pulling the ad campaign at this point Thank you to skelfy when they're in a picture it's called taking a skelfy whoa every picture of her is a
Starting point is 00:40:51 skelfy technically technically it is yeah it is it tried to catch on tried to be like hey why don't we call every picture a skelfy they lost a lot of friends through that campaign that life's been hard every picture is now just the skelfy because not a lot of other people in campaign. Life's been hard. Every picture is now just the Skelfie because not a lot of other people in frame. It's kind of sad as well because they also just can't afford a smartphone with a front-facing camera. They would love to take selfies.
Starting point is 00:41:17 They would love to, but they're sadly stuck with Skelfies. Yeah. Thank you to Angharad Stockwell. Angharad is acing quarantine because they are well-stocked. And if things go south, Stockwell can handle a Glockwell. Oh.
Starting point is 00:41:32 That's right. They're ready for the apocalypse. That's a little... Awful. A little itchy trigger finger as well. If anyone comes for a tin of beans, as much as one tin of beans... You try to take a single bean. Even some of the bean juice. Ba-bam, ba-bam!
Starting point is 00:41:48 They're blasted. It's like Tomb Raider. Dual wielding glocks. Thank you to Georgie Key. Georgie, poor Georgie put in a pie, bent the keys and made everyone die. Die? Even more powerful than Uri Geller himself.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Georgie is a threat to society. How do they kill someone just by bending a key? Bent up a load of pacemakers. Yeah, pretty sad, actually. Anyone who's got a plate in their knee or hip or something, bent to shit. It's like, stop kicking yourself. You just bend your leg backwards into your own face. He's a bad wizard.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Anyone who had crutches or walking stick, bent. Yeah, it's like bed knobs and broomsticks. That thing is just beating the life out of you. Thank you to Musa Meddings. Come on down to Meddings Beddings. We got it all, folks. Pillows, blankets, mattresses, beds. Oh, it sounds like you have it all.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Could I get one bed, please? Nope. Sold out, sir. What? Could I interest you in a pillow? I guess I might as well. If I can't get the bed, I'll get the pillows at least. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Can I get two pillows, please? Nope. What? One per customer, sir. These are turbulent times. But what am I supposed to get a... My fiancé to come here and buy a pillow herself? Listen, my boss, Musa, she wants to hold on to everything.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I'm not supposed to sell a damn thing. That doesn't make any sense. Why? Why did you put on? What are you doing out there? Nothing, Musa. Nothing. Why did you put on the salesman voice?
Starting point is 00:43:19 You've got to get out of here while you can. Musa's loading a gun. Get off of my store. So you know it's a store those who go to sleep on these beds do not wake up sir thank you to hamish hamish is borderline famous wow hamish celebrity almost i wouldn't go that okay you know he's kind of been in the background of a bunch of movies not movies you would have heard of though i'm definitely not starring roles we're talking like not even an extra like he was so he's not famous
Starting point is 00:43:49 well he's like a little bit i mean he's not even famous i mean he had a he had a hit track okay he had like a top 10 hit in the radio okay but it was like it was all ghost written it was like you know someone else's name someone else's beat someone else's name, someone else's beat, someone else's lyrics. You know, he didn't really... So he's not famous. No, no one knows his name, of course not. Okay. But Hamish, you know, I respect the grind.
Starting point is 00:44:11 It's hard to be famous. Thank you to Granville Walker. Walker the smooth talker. They say they can talk their way out of any situation. Talk their way into prison in the morning and talk their way out at night. Borderline chatted their way into guantanamo chatted their way into a bunch of green muffins that's right they serve muffins in guantanamo and then just chatted their way out guantanamo is bad in almost every way that you've heard but there are muffins there are they're pretty good they're
Starting point is 00:44:39 not bad thank you to george mcgee georgie. Put in the pie, called McGee and made everyone die. By being called McGee. Yeah. Isn't any kind of bender, any kind of psych. Doesn't have any psychokinetic powers of any kind. Just a killer. Wow. Just a trained killer.
Starting point is 00:44:59 He's a murderer. Yeah. Well, I'm glad that you at least enjoy the podcast, which would mean that hopefully we're safe because if you kill us, no more podcasts. Yeah. It, I'm glad that you at least enjoyed the podcast, which would mean that hopefully we're safe, because if you kill us, no more podcasts. Yeah, stands for reason. Thank you, lastly but not leastly, to Mike Stevenson. Mike Stevenson likes stealing sons. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:45:15 That's right, maybe you've heard the old fable. No, I guarantee you I haven't. If kids used to misbehave and disobey their parents, Mike's stealing sons would come down the chimney with his spider legs, wrap the bad little kitties. Bori's doing a lot of tentacle-style movements here. Wrap the bad little kitties and take them away. Is that who this is? I don't want them as a patron.
Starting point is 00:45:38 To Cracktown. Oh, awful. It's not drug-related. It's just a town where everything is a little destroyed good yeah destroyed yeah everything's a little cracked wow and everyone smokes meth okay so it is about the drug there's drugs involved in the town you don't want to go there kids it's a bad place you should have known it where the guy with spider legs showed up to take you there he's not even a guy he he's a spider. Thank you to everyone,
Starting point is 00:46:05 we've shouted out today, and everyone, we are yet to shout out. Thank you for hanging in there, and being patient, we're getting through, our list of patrons. Hope you enjoyed this week's episode,
Starting point is 00:46:14 we'll be back on Tuesday, with part two, of this investigation. See you then.

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