This Paranormal Life - #178 The Mystery of the Mooncave

Episode Date: September 8, 2020

What's inside the mysterious 'Mooncave' hidden deep the the wilderness of Slovakia? Was it built by ancient aliens? Is it really CURSED like the locals say it is? So many questions, very little answers. Welcome, to This Paranormal Life.Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityAdvertise on This Paranormal Life via Gumball.fmResearch by Amy GrisdaleEdited by Louis BlatherwickIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

When an alien dies, does it become a ghost? If honey comes from bees, where do bees come from? All of these questions you can find the answer to on THIS PARANORMAL LIFE! Hey! Yo! Welcome everyone to This Paranormal Life, the comedy paranormal podcast where every week, myself and my co-investigator, Kit Greer, investigate a brand new paranormal story and come to the conclusion, typically within the hour, as to whether or not it is truly paranormal. We have decades of experience behind us and we leave no piece of evidence untouched.

We're thorough. We are dedicated. And we're excited to be coming at you this Tuesday with an absolute banger of a story. That's right. We don't leave any. Well, there was actually a couple of lawsuits ongoing because we were hired for a couple of jobs. And we did drop the ball on the 94 case. Other than that.

That was a tight deadline. Never dropped the ball. Never. Every piece of evidence. We got the microscope. Actually, that time we did a case closed we said it was an absolute double no there's no way but then actually there was a kid was walking his dog and he found the alien corpse i forgot about that in the field yeah so you know everyone's got a spot

of yelp record that's true that's true but. No, there was also the case in 2004. Really? That wasn't even paranormal. I think that was like car theft. I don't know how we got involved with that one. But I think our conclusion was the car wasn't real, which was obviously not true. Yeah, I think I browned out that night and that was my defense in court. You stole it. It didn't work either. Of course.

And that's actually all the cases we've ever investigated yeah but we're gonna we're gonna wipe the slate clean all right because we got a case so spicy so interesting that it blew my mind that we'd never even heard of it before all right i'm intrigued we got an email sent into this paranormal life podcast at gmail.com from tracer big fan of you and overwatch tracer hell yeah the email said have you heard of this my god it's rife with paranormal adventure the subject of the email was simply the moon cave okay you you got me that's a nice combination of words right there i'd never heard of this before. It does sound like the name for a top secret government operation, Moon Cave.

So naturally, I investigated. And I discovered something huge, Kit. Let's jump into the story. The year is 1944, and we're in the Tatra Mountains in Slovakia during the national uprising. A time where Nazi soldiers were occupying Slovakia, patrolling the wilderness and hunting down anyone that opposed them. In the middle of this turmoil, military commander Antonin Horak and his resistance group were locked in a heated skirmish in the Slovakian wilderness. group were locked in a heated skirmish in the Slovakian wilderness. Gunshots and battle cries rang out from both sides as the Slovakian resistance movement fired against the Nazi forces.

Commander Horak, the Nazis are advancing. We cannot hold much longer. Hold your ground, Peter. Return the fire. But Horak, I don't think we can... Peter, no! Nazi gunfire rang down on Horak's unit, hitting Peter and the rest of the resistance. Horak, going beast mode, picked up a second rifle from the ground and stormed forward, tears in his eyes,

until... He was shot. Horak dropped to the ground, joining the rest of his unit on the cold forest floor. Rest in peace, brother. Then he woke. Horak looked around to find himself still in the woods, surrounded by his fallen comrades, but when he glanced down he noticed that his wounds had been dressed in fact two other soldiers in his unit had also survived and both of their wounds had been dressed too it turns out that in the aftermath of the battle two local villagers had searched the field for survivors looking to save anyone that was still breathing it's got to have

been an emotional rollercoaster. Like you go from, I mean, pretty much thinking the world, you're getting rained on with gunfire. You're pretty much thinking the worst of humanity, but then you're saved by these strangers. It's got to restore some faith in humanity right there. When you're charging at the Nazis with two guns, tears in your eyes, you're not, that's your last thing you're going to do.

You're not going to live to see another day. So you're just happy to be alive, let alone have your wounds dressed. Goddamn. I mean, this is a problem with this situation. If you're going to have a big final moment in war, you've got to make sure you are going to die in the end. Because if he turned to Peter and been like, look, it's the last chance I'm ever going to tell you this. I'm actually pretty into your sister. And then you all get shot. He's like, what?

And you all get shot. Right. Because you wanted to get it off your chest. Right. If you kind of come to wounds dressed and Peter is just standing over you. He's like, my sister? Really, buddy? Really?

After everything we've been through together i think i'm actually bleeding out dude no you better be bleeding out because i'm gonna make you bleed out if you touch my sister you want you want me to die and we're bitter and you feel you're angry at me that's you want me to i'm going can i can i just ask where you would plan on taking my sister on a date? I was going to be a gentleman. I think I'm bleeding out here. Okay.

Just a little. I'm listening. I mean, if this sounds good, I'll get the medic. Before, I was going to take her to the ball. Sure. The ball, Peter. We were going to dance. What ball?

Is this one of those seedy balls where you're touching and grabbing? Gentleman's ball. Okay. I would graze her cheek with my my tender watch where you're grazing all right all right you better forget you better say i forgive you before i pass on peter you better say it better say that you forgive me and that i'm actually pretty cool i don't know if i can do that i don't know if i can do that buddy you better actually give me permission to date your sister.

You're dying. Why do you need permission? Just in case I make it, dude. Can you imagine if you were just like, all right, fine. If you make it out of this alive, you can date my sister. Just stands up perfectly. Thanks, bro.

I'm going to call it right now. Just like storms off into the woods. Wipes the fake blood capsules off him. The villagers picked up Horak using makeshift stretchers and began carrying him away into the woods. Using the last of his strength, he asked, Where are you taking me? To a cave, replied the man. It's a secret place.

Is there no hospitals? Why are you taking me to a cave? Quiet now. Rest up, soldier. They hit him over the head with a branch. I'm going to take your kidneys. Wait, did I say that bit out loud? The three of you will be able to hide and recover there.

But as they approached their destination, Horak knew this was no ordinary cave. Something was different. The color of the rocks, the temperature inside. It was strange. Once the men reached their destination, the villager said, You'll be safe here. Not even the Nazis know about this place. But I warn you, do not wander deeper into this cave. The recesses of this ancient place are littered with sudden drops.

Dangerous cliff sides. Poisonous gas pockets. And some villagers even believe- Why the f*** did you take me here? Poisonous gas pockets? I just got off the battlefield, bro. You don't think I need more chlorine gas? There must have been a better place to go.

Leave me in the fields! The Nazis are gone. If you escape death by an inch you don't want to be taken to a poisonous gas cave that is possibly haunted by ghosts. That's what hell is! That's what dying is! Do not so much as look in deeper into the cave or spikes will come out of the walls. I'll take my chances. I'm gonna take my chances actually back in the battlefield i'm gonna maybe see if a wolf will drag me to a better cave

hopefully the men agreed but the strange glow of the cave walls and alluring darkness called horak deeper he had no intention of keeping his promise what we? We gotta cut him some slack. You haven't seen this f***ing cave, dude. It is glowing. Okay. Like, it's the most beautiful, it is like a siren's call. You know that there's like, noises, weird noises,

bouncing all over the caves. It's like, practically whispering like, come deeper, come deeper, come deeper. This is like when you're stumbling home drunk, 3am, and you can just about make out the blurry golden arches of a mcdonald's in the distance say no more bro you just you're drawn to it people are like it's a bad place their chicken

nuggets are made from beaks and shit blurry machine has been off for days you're like off old man i'll take my chances there's poisonous gas and the happy meals you just push them out of the way Go meet Ronald. I have to get the Hamburglar collectible toy The next morning the chief villager Slavik told the three soldiers. I have to return to the village, but you'll be safe here I'll return later with some supplies Okay, don't worry about it. Take your time. We'll be here just relaxing. As the leader left the cave, Horak began to gather his belongings. Hey, Horak, where are you going? Horak told his fellow soldier that he was going for a walk around

the cave before reciting the traditional Slovakian saying, snitches get stitches. That can't be right. It goes back, it does. Right. As Horak hobbled deeper into the cave, he's still pretty f***ed up at this point. He was shot like eight hours ago.

So he's still hobbling. He couldn't believe what he was seeing. Instead of regular rock, the walls of this cave had strange mirror-like sheen to them, as if it was entirely made of glass. It wasn't long before he discovered a vent-like hole, big enough for him to shimmy through, die-hard style. But just like John McClane's Christmas party at Nakatomi Plaza, things were about to get out of control. Horak slid through the small vent to discover a huge cylindrical object set within the rock. It was dark, metallic, and

completely smooth like the walls of the cave, but carved into the sides were strange symbols that looked almost like hieroglyphics. He's hit the gas pockets, my friend. He doesn't know what he's seeing. He went too far. Without thinking, Horak struck the object with his pickaxe, Fortnite style. A loud BOOM rung out in the cave, implying that the object was hollow inside.

Curiously, even with the hardest hit he could manage, he couldn't even scratch it. Wow. Prettyiously, even with the hardest hit he could manage, he couldn't even scratch it. Wow. Pretty weird, huh? Yeah. This is very trippy because as you said, we don't know where his mind is at. Like we don't know if he's died and is in some kind of f***ed up purgatory. Yeah. Or if he's still alive, but seeing things yeah i mean he's been shot he's traveled through a weird cave in the dark probably through a couple poisonous gas clouds at this point he could be very delirious but there is a bit of a backstory here the villagers already warning him about this cave that something's not right here yeah and then he

stumbles across this it does make me think about the local villagers' tactics for getting people to stay out of the caves. I don't know if they have regular visitors, but their tactic for getting people to not go in, which was very honest,n't worked at all. Turns out telling people. Do not dare take another step. Deeper into this cave. Actually just makes everyone. Want to go further in immediately. Yeah I guess. The only thing is. Maybe this cave is so god damn alluring.

That anything you say about it. Is still not enough. Yeah I mean it seems hard for us to imagine that because i've never seen a cave with walls that shiny yeah but yeah i i could imagine you know you go to a hotel spa and uh one of the workers there the bartender perhaps he's like can i can i get you a drink or anything please uh take a look around um you want a massage uh just so you know hot tub is out of order looks great but it's actually pumping out acid yeah so so don't just ignore the hot tub yeah it like it's a great temperature it is very relaxing but it does occasionally emit a snake that goes up your

asshole yeah so maybe you don't want to do that but that hot tub just looks fantastic and you just got served a mojito and so you want to drink the mojito in the hot tub just looks fantastic. And you just got served a mojito. And so you want to drink the mojito in the hot tub. Of course. Are those some hieroglyphics on the side of this bad boy? I think that's Egyptian for jet powered. Let me try and read it from underwater. You can't say no to something like this.

It's that beautiful of a cave. The hot tub is just teeming with ancient snakes it looks borderline relaxing though orac would return to the object over the following days whenever he got the chance eventually using belts and rope to climb down on top of the object and slide through a diamond shaped crack at the. The inside was shaped like a crescent moon, and was covered in what looked like clay and limestone. Horak said that all sounds inside the chamber were unnaturally amplified. So naturally, he fired his gun at the wall to see what would happen.

Look, sometimes you've just got to go back to to the to the olden days experiments which is firing a gun at something that you don't know what it is i guess you know the problem here is that we had no scientists on hand uh we had a soldier of fortune that was the only guy who was ever going to make it this deep in the cave you know this is a kind of indiana jones fly by the seat of his ass kind of character i've been saying this for years that more scientific experiments should be basically started with just firing a bullet at the object just like a cowboy just unload six shots like mccree's dead eye just picking it out yeah the scientist that tries that isn't going to be allowed in any more labs that's the problem you only get those six shots before someone takes your gun away forever that's why it hasn't happened

you're on a list you can never own a gun again in any country and even if you're on a list with a team of other gun carrying scientists that's not a list you want. And even if you're on a list with a team of other gun-carrying scientists, that's not a list you want to be on. If they're like, hey, we're opening up our own lab, you don't want to go in that lab. It's a cowboy saloon. Hey, guy. You're at the bar drinking tequila.

When do we start doing experiments? Oh, yeah. Forgot. All right. A guy in a bathtub falls through the roof. When the bullet hit the wall, green

sparks and smoke shot out like something from a sci-fi movie. God damn. As he slowly walked around the interior of the crescent moon-shaped object, he heard a crunch under his foot. When he looked down, he saw bones. Oh no! The bones of a huge creature. It looked like it was the remains of a large type of bear

named the Cave Bear. But even in 1944, this creature had been extinct for about 24,000 years. this creature had been extinct for about 24,000 years. Holy damn. How long had this cave been untouched? How did these bones survive for so long? What the f*** is a bear doing inside a UFO? Afraid that someone else would discover this chamber, Horak carefully concealed the vent that led into it so no one else could find the entrance but lucky for us he sketched out what the entrance looked like and also some details about the chamber itself oh hell yeah now these illustrations come straight from the world war ii diary of horak himself horak's real yeah that did was real he's like a whole well i thought that all this was made up no all of this is taken from horax actual world war ii diaries so even these illustrations that i'm showing you are from the

diary itself so take a look at these kid tell me what you think okay so i'm taking a look at horax diary right off the bat the pages are a very satisfying yellow which which is a good sign lets you know this is a very old document so right off the bat on the top image here it looks like i'm looking at a cave entrance um looks immediately like a kind of generic scary cave entrance yeah i'll say um kind of jagged rock teeth lining the top and then a dark abyss right in the middle and then am i right in saying this bottom diagram we're kind of looking at more of like a map of what's inside the cave is that it yeah i think so yeah it's kind of a hard hard thing to describe and to imagine because it is basically a crack you can shimmy through that brings you into a bigger chamber but even this what he's calling a craft that's inside there

seems to pretty much almost appear like it's part of the cave itself right like he says himself it seems like it's made out of the same material that the cave is as well. It's almost like, yeah, it's like built into the mountain or it's been there for so long that it's been like sealed in the rock. Right. The rock is formed around it. It's a little bit like a case we discussed in the Baltic Sea where there was a alleged UFO found in the seabed. And I don't know if you remember, but they sent a dive team down to test it. And it turned out it was 100% rock. Right. I do remember this. So the only paranormal explanation was that

it had been there for so long, it had become rock. Yeah. Which I think there was always going to be a paranormal explanation. If they'd done a scan and it turned out to be 100% fish, they probably would have said, it's been down there so long, it's fish now. It's fish now.

Yeah. This is insane. The craft itself has become a salmon. He's eating it for dinner. Marvelous. Incredible. From another universe. It's the best salmon I've ever tasted.

Yeah, there was always going to be a paranormal explanation. And I think this is why this case is interesting, because I think there's enough stuff from these diaries to make it feel like this is paranormal, not just part of the cave itself. The fact that shooting the walls creates green smoke and sparks that there are strange markings strange markings on the inside of this craft it's almost as if whatever this thing is has been sealed in the cave walls like han solo uh in star wars in that weird

metal that they seal people in like special pokemon cards and disturbingly we had that footnote about the fact that there was a 24 000 year old cave bear buried somewhere yeah don't uh don't hold on so this craft no i don't if that's what we are going to call it today that's just like a minor at least 20 000 years old are we right to assume the the bear himself was piloting this crowd are bears aliens who knows some people think jellyfish came uh from another planet it's true um i'm not sure what the justification behind that is i think it's something along the lines of their genetic makeup is so unique to every other creature on earth that they're like no it's it's from a it's from space it's goo there's nothing else like this it's worms maybe yeah this is my this is my my like

lecture at harvard i don't know how i got this but i'm just up here with a picture of a jellyfish on a powerpoint are you kidding me it's f***ing goo guys halfway through the lecture the professor that you knocked out and took his outfit stumbles on that's insecurity it is underwear i can't believe this are you seeing this guys big jelly is trying to take down the whistleblower it is underwear like they're not made of jelly it's a very complex biological organism it's too late i've turned the crowd jelly jelly jelly rise my sea monsters bow to our jelly lords you're in a suit that's five sizes too big for you the sleeves are all like over your arms it's goo the suit is also dripping wet because i've

obviously come straight from the aquarium where i jumped in the tank and tried to wrestle a jellyfish now horak was eventually rescued but the thoughts of that strange place he referred to as the moon cave would stick with him for years it wasn't until 1965 that he published an article about the moon cave and everything he saw inspiring adventurers from all over the world to try and hunt it down i guess the bar for submitting articles was a little lower back then that if you just showed up and you were like hey i saw a weird cave in the mountains once it's like cool is it 3 000 words long awesome saw a weird cave in the mountains once. It's like, cool. Is it 3,000 words long? Awesome.

They're like, we don't want to hear from it. He's like, excuse me, I am a veteran. They're like, oh, Jesus Christ. Let him say what he wants. Whatever. It's easier if you just let him say what he wants. The craft was 20 feet wide. F*** me.

The bear, 30. Oh, Jesus. In fact, Horak was even interviewed by Dr. J. Allen Hynek. If that name sounds familiar to you, it should be. Dr. J. Allen Hynek has popped up in dozens, if not more, of our previous investigations, as, of course, one of the leaders of Project Blue Book. Wow, we just cannot escape this guy he just hoovers up all the paranormal tales having a paranormal story that mentions dr j alan hynek is like getting that nintendo quality seal of approval do nintendo even do that anymore i don't

know i don't think so. Maybe they don't. Maybe they gave up. Well, we've got the Project Blue Book seal of approval. Interesting. I'm hoping that people who are listening to this podcast already know what Project Blue Book is about because we've talked about it a lot in the past. But the brief synopsis is that it was a government secret operation

to investigate specifically UFOfos which is strange kit why would a government operation that specifically investigates ufos be interested in a mysterious cave very strange what do they know that we don't they think it's plausible indeed possible that some ufo artifacts might have ended up in a cave in europe yeah i mean the fact that when this information went public this was the the organization that was designated to investigate this very interesting super interesting because it could have been i don't really know a lot about it a lot of other secret departments but uh they gotta have one on caves caves are pretty freaking weird it's they're pretty dark and spooky and bats living tricky uh toss up isn't it because you

got either like the forest service yeah or project blue book fighting over the same case yeah it'd be great if the forest service were like look technically guys it's in a forest it's our jurisdiction we're gonna take it from here they walk in like 20 feet and there's like a little huddle of alien greys with guns never mind you guys this is actually pretty weird to find in a forest i feel much more comfortable if you guys take this one like we'll go back to what we know looking after trees they go to like cut some branches off a tree the tree just gets up and like runs away like an end from lord of the rings when did this forest get so weird this used to be a simple job i didn't graduate college i'm not for this. So what did Horak find out in that

strange wilderness? There are a couple popular theories online, and I thought we could go through a few of them to try and get an idea as we head towards our conclusion as to what this could possibly be. Let's go. The first theory is, is this the work of an ancient alien civilization? Now this cave is too old and too massive to be made by humans Not even considering that the walls are made of magic and can shoot green sparks paranormal enthusiasts believe it could possibly be a huge lens that amplifies cosmic energy out into space or possibly as we discussed that the strange chamber contains the remains of an alien ship i like that we're starting off hot we're

going in straight to the the really wild paranormal explanations here yeah i mean they're only going to get wilder as well so this is actually pretty tepid i do love that idea places on this earth having bizarre and so far unknown kind of extraterrestrial relevance to the universe yeah that there could be some cave out there that's made of some specific material that aliens know of. Yeah. That if aliens came to Earth today, they wouldn't land in Times Square because they wouldn't care about that. They'd be like, no, we're going to go where the phlegra...

the phlegragrammite cave is. Right, yeah. Every planet in this solar system has a phlegragrammite cave. Yeah. And that's where all knowledge in the solar system is located yeah it's like you think we're gonna land somewhere else and max out our bonk chongos you you clown they still say clown in the alien galaxy well you got to keep your bonk chongos low you're gonna go to a place like this where the cosmic energy is basically being beamed to space this is their airport

hell yeah alternatively you know if we're saying that this is uh the remnants of an alien craft was this cave caused by an alien ship smashing into the earth uh you know just injecting a tunnel into the core where it eventually stopped lining the walls with space fuel and creating this beautiful mirror like cave system. It's interesting to think of these kind of geological hints of astronomical events. astronomical events and i have heard previously of there being layered around the earth in different locations some kind of uh like shock crystal or diamond these kind of objects with a crystal structure that only occur where maybe a nuclear blast has taken place or where a meteorite crashed with earth and the literal earth itself was smooshed into specific crystal forms and when scientists see these they go okay holy crap something massive has happened here right that's quite interesting maybe this cave is something like that this is something that would never

happen without extraterrestrial intervention yeah it's basically like showing up to a crime scene but the crime was against mother earth looking at the remnants of what happened and drawing a conclusion as to how it ended up like this it's kind of like yeah when you see like huge uh lakes or caverns and a lot There's many of them where people would be like. Yeah this is because essentially. A meteorite smashed into the earth. And that's why there's this huge dent. That's been filled up with water.

Which is crazy. I do like this theory. I like it a lot. But we do have others to entertain. One of the other options is that. Possibly what the village elder said was true. Was this cave just straight up haunted? Created not through alien technology, but by paranormal means.

Spells, curses, crushing up frogs and beetles and friggin' newt eyes in a cauldron and drinking it down like an ice latte. Okay, I, you know, can't think of any reasons we've come across so far why that might be the case um but hey i like it witches and wizards are involved i'm there yeah this is this is saying uh that it wasn't created um artificially that possibly this is the cause of something more supernatural you know those hieroglyphics carved in the walls could have been you know spells it could have been you know wizardry or something involved in the creation of these mirror walls it's a weird cave that's all i'm saying but moving on to our final possibility the one that i've saved for last. And for a good reason,

Kit. Is this possibly an entrance to the underground world of Agartha, known as the Hollow Earth? Look, I know I can get sort of carried away when I start talking about the Hollow Earth.

Sure, I'll be the first person to admit that. But do you really think that it's a coincidence that Horak ran into Nazi forces so close to the cave itself? This is you on the dock defending yourself in court. Like, we didn't ask about Agartha, whatever the f*** that is. we've looked into uh the hollow earth not extensively enough i believe on this podcast i think extensively enough merely

several times without ever doing a full investigation into it i think without ever coming down on a yes as well uh well you know there's been some some uh resistance from parties involved in uh whether or not it does exist whether or not it's real not real whether or not uh hitler was hidden away in the hollow earth where people can live up to 400 years old that's right buddy um i don't know if even you give that i'm just saying isn't it a little strange that the nazis were in an area yes of course there was definitely uh political and regional reasons why they were at this exact location in the world it actually makes a ton of sense but it's also pretty coincidental that they were treading right around the corner from possibly an entrance to Agartha, the Hollow Earth. Especially when we know from previous episodes

that they went all the way to Antarctica to hunt for an entrance to the Hollow Earth. Interesting. So how many entrances are there to the Hollow Earth? Do we know this? Classified. You could just say if you don't know i am not at liberty to say i plead the fifth i refuse i also don't know sure i should have led with that maybe at the start well antarctica

is one that's like the main one that people talk about underneath the ice. Makes sense. There's the, you can go submerge underneath the ice and reach a hidden entrance. I believe there's also one maybe in New Mexico where there is a very intricate cave system that we've talked about before where it's believed that possibly ancient aliens use the underground cave system to hide from uh geological events i remember that cave system yeah that's messed up they were like they were like ant people i think or ants or called something like that referred to um and then you have um cases like this where it's a strange cave or a weird cavern um that people really don't know how it exists or what it's made of. And if it's a big hole that goes into the earth and it f***ing glows like a disco ball, then yeah, it probably leads to Agartha, the ancient world.

Why does it need to glow like a disco ball? Aren't they trying to keep themselves quiet down there? Agartha is like a f***ing Vegas club. It is a non-stop party they don't have a sun it's inside it's constant nighttime they want to well they don't want to get people in they actually very much want to make a pretty good point but it's like a it's like a prehistoric party with ancient humans it's like the vegas strip getting into this place kind of funny to think that like you know yes they need to keep people out so that their community is safe but they also need to keep their people in and by

doing that they need to make it a pretty dope fun place to be yeah so there are strip malls there are casinos it is a 24 7 party so that no one ever needs to leave i have uh you can actually look up our uh artistic interpretations of what agartha looks like uh it's wild i would definitely recommend it it's it's bonkers it's so strange we're gonna have to do an episode on it eventually because there's like full-on maps of what what is on the inside of the earth so absurd it's why you've been there you've seen it it's got the map it's basically a theme park drawing where it's like here's a little mountain then here's a there's the lazy river over here uh on the i don't know right on the flip side of china it's very bizarre we'll have to do something on it but it is one of just many options that we have

to consider today in this case now i will say the other side of the coin here caves are wild there's ice caves crystal caves there's a cave in new zealand where there's so many glow worms on the ceiling it looks like you're in space i i did some googling uh into caves and there's some pretty crazy ones out there that very much exist within the confines of our reality without having been built by an ancient alien we also need to take into consideration that horak if he did exist and these diaries are true he was shot a day earlier um he could be delirious from poisonous gas he could have borderline been looking at his dirty reflection in a cave puddle and gone the prehistoric bear she lives today i see the secrets of the universe and also there

are you know undiscovered man-made mysteries to this earth. I posted not that long ago in the This Paranormal Life Facebook page with a link to a story that basically like a farmer, I believe, in rural China wanted to drain like a swamp bit of his of his land yeah and accidentally discovered an ancient underground network of a kind of ancient egyptian level chinese caves with huge hieroglyphics and statues hundreds of feet under the ground and how the f**k don't we know about these that's insane haven't we discovered all of those things but they're there this is what kind of gives me a little bit of hope and gets me excited because we feel like there's like that saying that uh we are the generation that was kind of uh born too late to explore the earth too early to explore the stars that's right it's like a miserable existence we're all we're all trapped here there's nothing new to do uh so i get inspired when i hear about these stories where it's like hey under your feet right now could basically be an entire cave system built by an ancient civilization that no one has even

checked for yet it's crazy it's fascinating we need to just start digging more places randomly yeah i noticed you digging holes you started in my garden i felt that was a weird place to start. Correction. You didn't. I started in your kitchen. Your what? Yeah. I tried to make headway right in the freaking behind your sink. Oh my God. We haven't had running water for days.

Are you kidding me? Yeah. I have been able to bathe. I've been drinking nothing but Coca-Cola for days. I tried to kind of like break through your hardwood floor right but it turned out underneath your hardwood floor was actually really hard cement as well yeah that's called foundations bud yeah under that though rock yeah sure under that though how deep did you go when i get through the rock i'll tell you what's underneath it but you can stop there's

nothing there i've got my i'm just in your your kitchen with my indiana jones cosplay whip every time you break through to a new layer you're like this is it you queue up the indiana jones theme tune see ya who knows i would encourage all of our listeners to uh just explore more explore more of the world let's go out and find some caves not just because the commune is at capacity and we would really appreciate some sort of cave-like system where we can kind of very similar to cicadas just bury ourselves away in the dirt uh only emerging to each other and we would also encourage people just leaving to explore just leaving just reducing the number of people in the commune well it's kind of tough because we have like a door a locked door policy right um we have one of those like

revolving doors but uh the velocity in which it spins is almost deadly you can't leave you would be you'd be blended frankly if you tried to escape uh so we'll try and get that thing slowed down but in the in the meantime if everyone could just uh just just chill just chill for a little bit that would really do me some favors so we've kind of reached the end of our episode today into the moon cave the slovakian moon cave kit i not only provided you with some physical evidence the diary entries and illustrations themselves but also some possible conclusions as to what this cave could possibly be uh what are your thoughts on this case it's a super tricky one rory because we have a good witness here a man of valor a man who risked his life for his country on the battlefield um this isn't some you know uh drunken hick who uh stumbled upon some kind of ufo uh relic and we

just and we just cannot trust our judgment this guy has nothing left to lose he almost lost his life out there yeah and yet he is saying he's come back from the brink of death with evidence of some kind of seemingly alien technology uh at the same time at the same time whilst we have his drawings of uh what this cave like, what he found inside, am I right in saying no one has rediscovered this cave? You are right in saying that. Directly after this war, I believe the political climate of the area was still very tense and considered quite dangerous, not to mention exploring this wilderness itself in the diary entries even though the descriptions of what was inside the cave are quite specific as you saw the actual location itself uh was very vague he did say it was in between a couple of

places and mentioned some maybe uh geological factors as to how you would locate it but um even with adventures in the last i don't know 50 years going out and hunting for it no one has managed to rediscover uh the cave which is interesting because uh he mentioned the diary entries that when he left he covered the entrance to the strange chamber that he discovered. But it sounds like the cave itself is still pretty much up for grabs. Yeah. It's lighting up the night. Which poses a quandary because you would hope that because he lived to tell the tale, indeed, 20 years later, wrote about the story in an article that he would have been the guy, if there was anyone to do it, to go and prove its existence

by leading a mission back there, which did not happen. I think he moved to America in the later years of his life, which is maybe where he got in touch with Dr. J. Allen Hynek. That makes sense. So I think he was pretty much,

I ain't going back there. I've seen all I've seen. I've done my doodles. You guys can go try and find it if you want which is interesting that he alerted you know the guys behind project blue book because it does leave open a small possibility that maybe we ain't heard of any more investigations because they looked into it and never told anyone that's what you gotta ask that's what you gotta ask is there a reason why we haven't had more people out looking for this cave

maybe it's because they did find it kit and they don't want us to know anything about it and they've been reverse engineering the technology from that cave for decades where do you think hair dryers came from where do you think cave where do you think hoovers come from the cave it's mostly air blowing technologies yeah the miniature fan that you use in summer on the train the cave it's mostly air blowing technologies yeah the miniature fan that you use in summer on the train the cave roombas you know they came from the cave oh yeah they ruled the cave they were the gods of the cave if you peel back the stickers on a roomba there's actually some ancient hieroglyphics written in there that's how they work uh i think it's an interesting case because as you said this isn't your uh your typical kind of tipsy redneck out in the middle of heck knows where um you know this is someone who

who was fighting the nazis they have nothing to lose but they also have nothing to gain uh surviving a battle like this after the war you you are a hero you are decorated there is no reason really why you need to also say by the way after the war i found a spaceship in a cave putting the metal around his neck yeah he thinks that he's here to give a speech it's like we just want you to take the metal he's like you'd actually be pretty interested to know that after the war. I can take this medal back. Somebody get him off. I actually was in a cave for a couple days drinking cave water.

He's making the army look bad. No one's going to want to join the army. And in that cave, I came across something you're all going to want to know about. It begins with a U and ends in a F. That's quite enough. They shoot him with a laser blaster take him to the cave you said that into the mic someone blasts him none of you saw that take them all to the cave starts blasting the crowd jewel wielding laser blast a cave bear comes out jewel laser guns feel feel yeah he has nothing to gain from this he also has nothing to lose from this it's a very strange a situation to be in um why anyone would would go on the record and

possibly sully their reputation as a hero with coming out with such a strange claim. It's my understanding that, aside from this article he wrote, he didn't really pursue it in any other form. No books, no TV shows. Obviously, it was a bit early for that kind of stuff. But, you know, no real personal interest in why this story would succeed or not, which is always great. But it's time. It's time,'s time kit we gotta go into the caves the cave of conclusions and uh grab something in the darkness and drag it out to the light what are you thinking today kit that's right rory we are posed with a quandary. We have a very trustworthy witness. We have written evidence from the time of the sighting of this cave.

And yet we are left with any other second opinion on this, anything else that might back it up, anyone else that might have stumbled upon it, anyone else that might have looked into this other than Project Blue Book, which is certainly up for debate in a future episode. But it unfortunately doesn't leave us with, I believe, enough physical evidence to say that this cave is first, even real, or second, full of alien technology. And for that reason, for me today, it's got to be a no. That makes sense.

That is fair. Yeah. A case like this, this is where we really need a little bit more physical evidence um horak himself seems to be the only one of the soldiers that ventured deeper into the caves uh as we said his experiences could be a little bit questionable uh due to the state that he was in um i mean if i had recently been shot and was stumbling around a dark cave with maybe just a little torch even if the the walls were wet and the light was shining off them it would look pretty cool you know there's especially in i don't remember how long it was later that he wrote that article but that's a lot

of time for your memory to kind of play up the experience that you had for sure um i think unfortunately uh this week for me it's also going to be a no um this case did bring up a lot of similarities between one of our super old cases that i loved which was uh neil armstrong oh going on the hunt for the metal library it's one of the best gotta go back and listen if you haven't heard that one one of the best maybe in terms of content not necessarily mic quality uh i don't know how old that episode was but uh it's pretty much episode three no it's not no way it's something like that jesus um but it was a great episode i think it actually might have been a double yes um because the evidence that was supplied along with that case was so convincing

that without even having a picture or the coordinates to the cave itself we were pretty confident that at least something weird was out there um and it was a double yes unfortunately with this case the opposite is true there's just not enough i think for me to uh put my reputation on the line as a paranormal investigator and say that this cave does exist but what a case if it does what a cave what a cave uh i encourage all of our listeners to just book a random flight to uh slovakia and just start digging right even if it's in the airport some of you will start in the airport some of you will make it outside i want like a we could get a couple people at my house and rory's made a start, but I really think he might be on to something here. I really think so.

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a whole bunch of new chickens to lay a whole bunch of eggs. And then the rumor goes that we wanted a whole bunch of new chickens to lay a whole bunch of eggs yeah and then the rumor goes that we were scammed and these were male chickens roosters in fact yeah it's the technical so they just woke everyone up at uh well the rumor goes at the crack of dawn and produce no f***ing eggs yeah uh it's just a rumor it's just a rumor. It's just a rumor. And we actually wanted people to start waking up at 6 a.m. every day. I think everyone's a little more chirpier for it, which is great.

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just to give you a little taste of what you can get if you come on over to patreon.com. So enjoy. So I do have one story on this topic. I haven't spent a lot of time in laboratories. Okay. But at school, I did biology. And we, in A-level, studied how genetics works in insects in particular and it's pretty fascinating we went outside one day we collected a bunch of flies we brought them inside how in a jar or

something it's pretty nuts the reason you use flies is because they reproduce so fast we put them in a little kind of uh glass box and basically they'll kind of hang out and breed with each other so you come back like you watched flies f**k each other i didn't say that i said we set up a camera and sure we made it premium on porn hub granted we got made a few bucks out of the whole thing but basically a week later we were able to see that the new flies exhibited the traits of both pairs of flies basically you had uh you know the male flies had these long bodies and then the female flies maybe had these like short legs and then you had babies that had the long bodies and the short legs. That's crazy. So you were able to see genetics happening right in front of your eyes within a week or so. Pretty fascinating. So we took on these final results, stoked with our findings. Basically, we had been studying these

flies by, I think we pumped in like a little kind of this gas that stunned them. We would put them under the microscope and look at their characteristics and then put them back in the box they would wake up um so we got all the results we needed our coursework was looking great and i said to my teacher well what do we do with them do we take them back outside to to where we find them and he was like literally spinning his glasses he was like um i suppose just gas them into the next life you shouldn't even you shouldn't say it like that yeah gas them into the next life yeah that's that's disturbing so it's not a million miles away from a panic kill panic killing goes all the way back to GCSE level science.

Yeah. That almost seems like more effort to gas a flight of death than open a window. Literally outside the building. Like it would have taken two seconds to not murder them. Also seems weird to kind of like make such a point of the beautiful biological miracle, such a point of the the beautiful biological miracle which is the mixing of genes of even two insects that seem so minuscule in this world shows the reproductive system that fuels us that fuels all biological life he grabs a hammer now as you can see, the fly's blood also shares similarities between the two parents. He's sort of smearing it on his face.

I love the smell of blood in the morning. Now go out. Go out, children, and find me meerkats. Meerkats to breed. Absolutely not. Stop gassing meerkats. That's wild. Yeah, I always thought, because it's not a huge thing over here in the uk but like

dissecting frogs and stuff yeah it's a big thing and like or at least it is in pop culture in american high schools definitely huge in america i think it does happen here um i seem to remember we were dissect a frog i seem to remember we were scheduled to do it in school and i think something came up that that we missed that lesson but i think they do do it. Sorry we have to cancel it. Someone gassed all the frogs. A f***ing teacher man. I don't know what happened. He was about to pull the trigger. They're like

all these frogs are going to die. They're going to be cut open. He's like not soon enough. Oh man what a great that was actually a really good bonus episode i love that one uh if you did enjoy that clip and you want to get involved all of the links for everything that we've talked about are in the description of this podcast right now you can just kind of unlock your phone check it out click one of those links and it'll take you right there and if you do support us on

patreon what we'd like to do is give me a little special sneaky shout out at the end of the podcast. So, thank you too. Jonel Tallo. Jonel, Jonel, Jonel, Jonel. I'm begging of you, please don't take my egg. Oh, I had to work very hard for that egg jonelle and it's my ticket out of this place to be honest because the only way anyone's getting through those revolving doors is if they pay the egg tax thank you to daniel cassidy daniel cassidy always cheated in classity

yeah always like cheating tests. Even in subjects you can't even cheat, like art. He was trying to like bring in paintings that he just bought in a store. And they were like, you can't, we know this isn't you. It's signed by another artist. You can't cheat art. Also, is this a priceless Van Gogh? How did you get this?

You cheated the local museum also? you to jessica huss jessica huss doesn't want no fuss even when she does something cool i think the other week she like stopped a bank robbery right um that was that was going on she just entered the bank knocked out the uh the robber walked away and she's like hey no fuss no fuss i'm just doing my anyone would have done it the news paper the papagernos they were like hey can we get your photo for the front of the paper no absolutely not no fuss i wasn't even here you're truly a hero jessica thank you to thomas thomas is all about the fuss i'll be honest thomas you haven't done a lot to have nothing the commendation and have the celebration um but he wants all the accolades in the fuss he's the dude that you know does that

flick with a water bottle where it spins and lands back on the table and he's like hey boys did you see that yeah yeah it's like yeah we all saw it, man. It was pretty crazy. He loves the fuss. Thank you to Colton Adrian. They call him Molten Colton because he's hot like lava, baby. Jesus. Hot to touch.

Hot to love. Hot to even just be around. He's like the friggin' sun. He's like a pretty intense guy. He's real intense. I don't know if I want to be around him,'s like the friggin' son. He's like a pretty intense guy. He's real intense. I don't know if I want to be around him, actually. Is lava f***ing intense? Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. So Molten Colton's

actually pretty wild. I wouldn't invite him into the house. Yeah, he sounds like... He just melted through the door. What? Oh, yeah. You can't stop the lava, baby. Is he just lava, man? That's his catchphrase. Thank you also to Karim Belair Karim is the fresh queen of Belair

And she rules Belair with an iron fist ooh It's a weird. It's a weird thing where you know the rest the country is run like a democracy and The Belair area is run like a democracy and it's run by mayors and presidents. The Bel Air area is run by a queen. She has peasants and she is brutal to them. A lot like the paranormal commune I'm hearing. Do you have any tips for being a brutal ruler? Karine, please send them through. Thank you also to Cameron Shaw.

Cameron Shaw is quick on the draw. Sketching, that is. Oh. Yeah. Like, very fast. Pencil out and can sketch you like a flower. Or, yeah. Sketching a flower.

He turns around the easel to you and it's just a bullet hole and a canvas. That's not a drawing cameron thank you to andrew riley andrew i riley appreciate all the support you've given us on patreon i really do that's that's nice getting a little australian there um but really i do mean it everything that you've given us before i I really do appreciate it, mate. Everyone knows how great our Australian accent is, so I just felt

I needed to bring it back. People often wonder if we're actually from Melbourne. No, we're just... I don't know. It just comes to us. It just comes to us, mate. Cheers, Riley. Thank you to Naomi.

Naomi owes me a pony. Because I had a precious pony that Naomi said she would borrow for just five minutes, she said. Just five minutes. I'm literally just got to run an errand, got to go to the post office. I said, if it's so close, why do you need the pony? She said, trust me, bro. She did have at the time all of her worldly possessions in a bag as well. I thought she was going to post them first class.

Sure. Strange, though. I mean, there wasn't a post office. She did have multiple day supplies and writing equipment. Sure. Yeah. There wasn't a post office anywhere close either. We're in the middle of the countryside.

Why do you have a pony? I was born on a pony farm. I did not know that about you. They thought I was a pony. Okay, that makes a lot more sense. For the first couple years of life. Because I came out of the womb and kind of Begging for hay.

Took the words out of my snout. I told Naomi, yes, you may borrow my sister for a short ride. So you are related to a pony. She didn't bring the pony back. Cruel, but fair. Thank you to Jordan.

Jordan, you have been awarded King of the Commune Egg Festival. Uh, which sounds like a very generous incredible title to be given. It is in fact

you now who is in charge of wrangling the loose lizards and squeezing eggs from their buttholes. I don't understand where an egg comes from. But I'm told by the previous wardens of the eggs. Wardens of the egg? The ancient order of the paranormal commune. Warden Jordan, the warden of the egg.

Warden Jordan, you will be hoarding the eggs. Thank you to Susie Flatch. Boozy Susie, a legend in the paranormal commune for making the most delicious alcoholic eggnog you have ever had in your life. These days, the ingredients are mostly nog. Just nog. For no reason in particular.

So it's pretty much rum in a cup with a bit of eggshell. Jesus. It's a crunchy delight. It really is. I insist you try some. The only egg bit about it is you drink it out of an unused eggshell. Thank you to Oscar Romo. Oscar Romo Romo.

He doesn't know what love is, but he knows a good podcast when he hears one. Honestly, that's a better characteristic to have than knowing what love is. Yeah, love is. Yeah. Love is overrated, but a good podcast is there every week. We don't let you down. Maybe we did once. We're sometimes a little late, but we always show up. Don't worry, Romo.

Thank you to Megan Holtrop. Megan Holtrop is short for Megan Holotropic Breathing. That's right. Megan is a master of this obscure ancient breathing practice that by lying in your bed and hyperventilating for two to three hours, you can travel to some kind of astral plane. Wow.

Two to three hours? Is there like a fast pass for the astral plane? Like a Disney style Like premium ticket For that you will need to talk to Megan's brother Keith Who has mastered the ancient art Of um Banging your head on the coffee table

That's right You joke but that's what it is He knocks you out and you go to the astral plane In about two seconds It's pretty fast Thank you to David Drilling Court That's what it is. He knocks you out and you go to the astral plane. In about two seconds. It's pretty fast. Thank you to David Drilling Court. David brought a drill to court.

It wasn't relative to the case. Nothing to do with life. Borderline a weapon. It is a weapon. He certainly tried to use it as one. He begged and pleaded that it's not a weapon. I'm a handyman by trade. It was a bad idea. It was a bad idea it was a bad idea thank you also to anya most anya out of everyone we've mentioned today i love you the most

any reason they're just the most grateful for the show every week they're the most supportive and the most i'm getting further away from it every time I say it moist loving. Well, that actually makes it. They also give the moist money. And that's a big part of the love. Yeah. Thank you to Ray Garza.

Ray Garza from Agartha. That's right. With a name like that, I know that you're a freaking 20-foot-tall, 400-year-old human from the ancient hollow Earth itself. Brother, where's the tunnel? I've been looking for a long time here. I'd really appreciate a little heads up.

Even if it's just like, tell me what tube stop to get off at. If it gets in London? Well, it's a good start. tell me what tube stop to get off at you think it's in london well it's a good start if it's in china i'll probably get off at cockfosters or one of the ones way out there stratford good start stratford you really think if it's i think you need to add on about what eight thousand miles it's a yeah but it's if it's yeah because actually if I want to go to, if it is in China, I probably actually want to go to Heathrow, which is actually out west, because I can get to Heathrow Airport.

So even though Stratford is the right direction, it's pretty wrong, because I don't think London City Airport flies to freaking China. All right, so I'm talking a lot of local London transport here. You stop talking, you look around, and everyone else in London has already got into a Gartha and shut the doors. What? You're the last person. I'm on Oxford Street?

What? Thank you to Thomas Asbeck. Thomas, we don't need you to be Thomas the Tank Engine. We need you to be Thomas the Blank Checkson. We're in the hole, Thomas. For a pretty large amount. And we need to write a check that you can't cash.

That's how much money we need. Now that I say it, then there would actually be no point in receiving the check for you if you're not good for the cash. So we might have a little bit of a problem here. We're going to need you to actually take out a very high interest loan, Thomas. That'll actually be better for us. So we appreciate it. Why high interest? How could that possibly help?

Because those are the juiciest carp in the ocean. Yeah, it's high interest because we're asking. Also, between you and me, we don't plan on paying it back. So the interest rate is a bit pointless. Whatever can get Thomas thrown in the slammer fast enough. Thomas, I hope you didn't hear any of that. Thank you to Natalie Hampshire. Natalie Hampshire is a straight up hamsterster i don't know how she got

the pod i don't know how she's listening an airpod is like the size of a hamster's brain she thought an airpod was an acorn she stuffed it in a little pouch and she just hears the podcast on accident now wow great to have your support please spread the good word through the hamster community thank you to daniel shepherd daniel shepherd you will be the shepherd to the wardens of the eggs when the wardens of the eggs get out of line you need to shepherd them into order yeah of course you will be overlooked by the drill sergeant of the shepherds of the wardens of the eggs yeah so watch out for that again there is no hierarchy in the commune thank you lastly but not leastly to joanna williams

joanna williams wants a man with billions uh you've come to categorically the wrong place joanna because everyone here at the commune had to surrender their worldly wealth at the door. That is true, yeah. But I will say, Joanna, that, look, there is a high possibility that I have a pretty high-interest loan coming through in the next couple days.

If you stick around, that billion might just show up. So, you know, don't go anywhere. Don't go anywhere. Thank you to everyone that we shouted out um we really appreciate the support on patreon it's the only way that this show can get any money at all so we really do appreciate it if you want to check out how you can get involved the links are all in the description of this podcast right now i hope you enjoyed this week's episode of This Paranormal Life. Remember everyone in the commune, that in life,

you gotta live fast, you gotta investigate, and you gotta die young, motherf***ers. Sorry, that was a pretty aggressive outro, actually. But thank you.