This Paranormal Life - #184 The Himalayan 'Skeleton Lake'

Episode Date: October 21, 2020

How did so many skeletons end up in a frozen lake deep in the Himalayan Mountains? An an avalanche? Human sacrifice? Skeleton bomb? Time to put on our snow boots and INVESTIGATE.Support us on Patreon....com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityAdvertise on This Paranormal Life via Gumball.fmResearch by Amy GrisdaleEdited by Louis BlatherwickIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are slugs just homeless snails? What happens when you drink human tears? All of these questions you can find the answer to on This Paranormal Life! Hey! Welcome everyone to This Paranormal Life, the comedy paranormal podcast where every week we investigate a brand new paranormal tale and come to the conclusion as to whether or not it is truly paranormal.
Starting point is 00:00:24 My name is Rory Powers. Across from me sits Obsidian Greer. That's right, Rory. How are you doing today, Obsidian? I'm doing great, Rory. Glad to be here. Changing up the voice as well. Oh, I've always talked like this, Rory. A manly, authoritative voice.
Starting point is 00:00:41 And there'll be less of you talking over me this week. I've actually got a clip here from an old uh episode what of your voice so no no no we don't need to hear that it's gonna hit play on no no i'm kit i'm a little boy wow good thing i'm not called kit anymore uh i do appreciate that you have changed your tone for this episode because i too will be changing the tone of the episode really we said you know it's a comedy podcast. We like to tackle the paranormal with wit and comedy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:12 It's a defense mechanism, if you will. No one wants to just be jumped by a ghost. They want the ghost to tell a joke first. But there's no time for jokes in today's episode, folks. It's going to be a serious one it's about goddamn time the listeners at home have had it too easy for too long they need to learn something for once yeah they need to be scared straight this isn't so much as an episode as we're just gonna break into one of y'all's houses you're gonna hear a window smash in about five
Starting point is 00:01:40 seconds this is live this is someone's living nightmare you're not actually playing anything you're just overhearing us in your closet wow they've really gone crazy with the 3d audio on this one i didn't know you could do that in a podcast our story today takes us to 1942 and we're in the icy wilderness of the himalayas nice a young forest guard treks through the snowy mountains on his daily patrol. These were of course war times, and as this region was British owned, the constant fear that Japanese soldiers would stealthily invade plagued the minds of Udurakand residents. The forest guard wandered through the hills looking for anything suspicious, but he could never have been prepared for what he discovered that day. He stopped at the peak of an icy hilltop, using the
Starting point is 00:02:29 altitude to scan his surroundings. As he glanced down towards the bottom of a small valley, he noticed a large dark patch of ice. It looked like a small lake that had frozen over, and at the edge was some sort of object sealed in the ice. The guard carefully made his way down the valley to investigate. As he approached the edge of the icy lake, the object was clear. It was a human skeleton. The forest guard jumped back in fear. What the hell? Sealed in the ice around this skeleton were even more bones, enough that it looked like there was no way it was all from the same skeleton. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:03:12 The guard turned back and ran back to camp as fast as he could. Unfortunately, not that fast, it turns out, because the lake is 16,000 feet above sea level in the treacherous Himalayan mountains. He also ate right before this happened. It was really unfortunate. He's a little bloated, sure. He also injured his foot that week. It was very, very not timely.
Starting point is 00:03:35 It was like a slow grandparent's walk. They shouldn't have sent him out, really. No. Not after just eating. When he got back to camp, he told his superiors what he saw a skeleton maybe two or three frozen in the lake now as i said this was during world war ii so immediately they assumed that these were the frozen remains of a group of japanese soldiers who had tried to secretly invade through the mountains so they decided to send out a group
Starting point is 00:04:02 of forensic investigators to find out the cause of the death. Very smart so far. Yeah this is very measured response. Going straight to men of science to investigate uh skeletons rather than wizards. It definitely like speaks to the craziness of the times the terrifying times that people lived in. The fact that when someone came back to the village and announced what they'd just seen they were like yeah that's probably that band of japanese soldiers that got lost a couple weeks back like if you have an explanation for what happened or pre-ready like yeah you live in pretty turbulent times yeah it's it's nice that reporting this case isn't as dramatic as some of the cases we've had in the past where you know you got to go tell an officer of the law that you were shanked by an alien gray yeah that's a hard conversation
Starting point is 00:04:51 whatever yeah you're not gonna believe this you got to tell them we're not only not alone in the universe but the mother has a knife and he's on main street whereas this situation is like hey this is weird yeah but it's not paranormal. It's just a skeleton, maybe two or three in a lake. Yeah, which is important. And that's why I've been campaigning for the police to add those options whenever you report a crime. Is this human crime? Is this like unexplained mystery Netflix shit? Or is this actually paranormal?
Starting point is 00:05:22 Skeleton crime. Because... The two tears. It's a skeleton army coming back from the dead to murder us. Because we need to know that up front. It will save me a lot of time. You know. On the phone.
Starting point is 00:05:34 That just gets added to the top of the list of paperwork. You know. Yeah. We can get to the bike theft later in the day. Because if I call them up. I'm so. I'm so startled by the situation. All I can make out is just.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Bones. Bones. Sorry. Is that a bonus episode? No. if I call them up, I'm so startled by the situation. All I can make out is just bones, bones. Sorry, is that a bonus episode? No, bones. Whereas if they knew before they picked up the phone, it's a skeleton crime. They go in with the mindset, this man is being attacked by skeletons. Yeah. It's easier for all of us, really. The only problem was as the weather changed, the frozen lake began to melt the guards came back to discover it wasn't just a couple skeletons this lake was full of skeletons it was there was no water there was no ice i said i do say lake it's it's 90 skeletons there were skeletons floating in the water skeletons washed up on the shore whoa allegedly an examination showed there were skeletons floating in the water skeletons washed up on the shore whoa allegedly an examination showed there were possibly up to 800 skeletons in this lake if i
Starting point is 00:06:33 see this i'm gonna drop to my knees and pray to the skeleton god yeah it's all over in 30 seconds i'm probably gonna be one of those skeletons oh it's are it's not you're done you're absolutely you are the needle in the skeleton stack no one's ever gonna find you it's over could you imagine being one of the guards that gets dragged up here and he's like well here it is you just be like why the did you bring me up here what do you think i can do curse did you think i had the answer to why there's 800 skeletons in a lake? You need to talk to the guy up there! It's above everyone's pay grade. I mean that's a theme we see in lots of kind of, you know, movies with I don't know where the odds of nature are so stacked against humans. Take like Godzilla, for example. You know, the army is like fighting back against Godzilla. It's like, what's the point? Yeah. There's no hope.
Starting point is 00:07:26 It doesn't do anything. I don't know why they'll try the gun once and it'll kind of bounce off them. Make them a little angry and roar at you. And they're like, this is insane. Yeah. We need 200 men down on that road. It's like, it's still, they've all got guns. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:39 It doesn't seem to hurt him. You got to start doing weird shit like covering him in mayonnaise. You don't know what's gonna happen you need to think like crazy and go outside the box at the same time i do appreciate it would be hard as an army general to receive the call that godzilla's coming to town and they're like general what do we do and he's like it there's no hope it's like you're a bad general there's no hope everyone stand on send in our weirdest guys with the weirdest ideas hopefully one of them will get lucky that's such a bad general that shouldn't be
Starting point is 00:08:12 your attitude when anything dangerous happens yeah like oh we just got reports that al-qaeda are actually moving in the middle east oh jesus send in the fucking mayonnaise guy maybe i don't know a dude who has too many cats why what do you think they're gonna mayonnaise guy maybe i don't know a dude who has too many cats why what do you think they're gonna be able to i don't know uh sir the mayonnaise guy says he doesn't really want to go and he thinks we should send the regular army it's like well he's pretty smart we should probably listen to him you should listen to him uh would you like to see a picture of the skeleton lake i didn't know we'd get to i'm very excited to see this photo oh yeah so this is more uh the lake when the water has pretty much um it's not telling me there's no water it's a pile of bones i can't believe i perfectly predicted this look global warming is real folks
Starting point is 00:09:00 and this this bad boy dried up global warming is real and it is being perpetrated by a skeleton army they are evaporating the oceans guys this is um this is some frosty hard rocky ground covered in countless human bones yeah i mean it is what it is there's no lake there's no water there's nothing like that yeah the creepiest part was that because these skeletons had, of course, been preserved in the ice, some of them still had flesh and hair on their bones. Holy moly. So they probably didn't even have any idea, any frame of reference for when they might have died. No, because obviously, you know, things can be preserved in ice for a very long time. They could have, you know, just slipped in there and decomposed last year.
Starting point is 00:09:46 They could have been there for 500 years. What's even more disturbing is that out of all of these skeletons, and as I said, there's about 800 of them, not one of them was found intact. Oh, so they're all messed up. Like all separated out. Bashed about. Bones everywhere. That dude's got three arms coming out
Starting point is 00:10:06 his ass this guy's got three heads taped onto a foot jesus man it's almost as if there was some kind of skeleton explosion scattering skeletons for miles now there were a lot of theories as to how all these skeletons ended up in the lake a landslide possibly a huge ancient ritualistic sacrifice maybe some sort of plague a skeleton bomb like you mentioned previously but because of how dangerous a journey it was to get to the lake very little research was done at the site over the years weirdly not a lot of scientists want to hike the himalayas to see the skeleton lake i feel like if there's an option, they might choose a different project to work on.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Yeah. You know, the professor will be like, all right, we need someone to go to the Bahamas to, you know, do a project researching the tropical vegetation that exists only on the golden coast. Yeah. And we also need a small team to go hike the himalayas to the cursed skeleton lake emphasis on the skeleton less on the lake part uh it's borderline
Starting point is 00:11:15 a pile of bones you might die on the way there so uh there's just that to think about you gotta hike to the top of skeleton mountain to reach skeleton lake the mountain and the lake wouldn't exist if there weren't so many skeletons either it's just a mound of skeletons leading to a soup of skeleton uh remains like all right so you just got to uh pick one of the projects out of a hat so like two guys pick it out it's they're both skeleton mountain i knew you guys wouldn't go if you and you guys wouldn't pick out of the hat if there wasn't some chance of the golden coast the professor's a skeleton you gotta pick an option out of my skull like we should we should listen i'd love to go but i went last year well it didn't work out very well for you did it no no no i was a
Starting point is 00:12:00 skeleton beforehand it's totally safe no that's that's our majorca that is our holiday location of choice i mean we already know that mount everest in the himalayas already has a rainbow road rainbow road is really a trail where so many dead bodies are still there wearing their multicolored uh snow jackets that it looks like a road of rainbows is that true yes that is so grim so we already know that they have to twist the names of things to get people to go up the mountain yeah so for this thing to be called skeleton lake there's no hiding it that's the spin to be fair it is not called Skeleton Lake. It's called Roopkund Lake. Roopkund is skeleton, by the way, in Indian. Well, it wasn't until 2004 until a team of scientists managed to examine the remains
Starting point is 00:12:54 and whatever DNA was preserved in the ice. The bodies they examined dated back to around 850 BC. Holy smokes. DNA evidence suggested that they were a group of closely related individuals. Found in the lake was also rings, spears, leather shoes, all supporting the theory that this was possibly one large tribe.
Starting point is 00:13:18 For now, it seemed like the mystery had been solved. Until... 2019! BC! They went back in time to solve the mystery. 2019! BF! Before flesh!
Starting point is 00:13:36 When skeletons roamed the earth! Before humans were fish in the ocean, they were skeletons in the lake. That was evolution. Skeletons. Humans came from the lake as skeletons and basically got flesh over the years. It makes sense when you think about it, guys. So as I said, 2019 saw an international team of around two dozen archaeologists and other specialists
Starting point is 00:14:03 retrieving 37 more skeletons from the lake for examination. First off, don't take skeletons from the lake. Yeah. That seems like the one thing you should not do in the skeleton lake. Add more? Fine. You could probably piss in the lake for all I... They probably don't care. It's a lake full of skeletons.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Do not take skeletons from the lake and bring them back to your lab or your home. Because then you have approximately 763 skeletons that want their homies back. Exactly. They are coming for you and they are walking and they are slowly climbing down Skeleton Mountain to hunt you down. I mean, you're just never never gonna sleep properly after you take all those skeletons are you you're gonna yeah you're gonna be like in bed at 1 a.m you're like all right i have to get up i have to go to the research center just make sure that none of them have got
Starting point is 00:14:54 up from under their little uh medical blanket because i just can't shake the idea that they are planning revenge you go there everything's fine you're like all right i guess it's fine i should probably go home i gotta smash them i have to smash the skeletons i think they're gonna come to life and strangle me in my sleep the rest of the assistants like arrive in the morning and you're just like standing in the lab with a hammer like what what the hell happened here it was only a matter of time i'm i'm sure one of them looked at me I'm sure of it well they took the 37 skeletons from the lake brought them to a lab examine them all but ironically their attempt to get to the bottom of skeleton Lake only made things more confusing the
Starting point is 00:15:38 team of scientists discovered that yes the majority of the bodies did die around a thousand years ago. But not at the same time. And even weirder, tests show that a number of the deceased likely passed away as recently as the early 1800s. Holy moly, so these skeletons range from over 2,000 years apart. Yeah, even weirder, the heritage of some of the bodies didn't make sense. It was as if they were completely geographically misplaced. Skeleton bomb is what you're saying. Skeleton bomb, my friend. This is like finding a little hobbit skeleton in Mordor.
Starting point is 00:16:19 They don't belong there. It's weird. Thanks for bringing things down to my level, bud. Now, what if I told you it got even weirder okay i'm listening examination of the bodies revealed that a lot of them all died the same way blow to the head with a blunt object is this in like genghis khan's like backyard or like what this is so bizarre it's it's the weird it's one of the weirdest stories 2 000 years 800 skeletons all with a blow to the head in the himalayan wilderness as well not like
Starting point is 00:16:55 near a civilization these skeletons are all in a lake in the in the middle of nowhere i just love to think of the archaeologists involved in this, some junior archaeologists. And, you know, whenever they were at university and their family and friends were like, Keith, look, I know you're obsessed with Indiana Jones. I know you love dinosaurs. I know you think like archaeology, it's going to be all like cracking whips and solving mysteries. It's really boring. There's not a lot to it.
Starting point is 00:17:23 It's just a lot of like dusting off bits of dirt this is like two guys walking in the himalayan mountains like a mentor talking to the new guy really we don't think anything is gonna be here uh but anyway just run this girl oh my god 800 skeletons frozen in ice oh i'm turning into what he looks down his flash is melting from his bone keith run tell the university solve the mystery make sure my story has been i am back to my original form join us it feels amazing so as i said a lot of these skeletons all died the same way a blow to the head with a blunt object but the dents in the skulls seem to be they all died the same way crushed to death by another skeleton cause of death skeleton avalanche the last skeleton to fall was the only one that just
Starting point is 00:18:22 died of a heart attack because no one crushed him uh i like that every bit of information only makes things more confusing yeah totally usually as a story goes on and more evidence piles up you sort of get a picture as to what happened next like a paragraph down i'm gonna be like one of them had a clown wig on yeah we have no idea what's going on this is like uh this is like a jigsaw puzzle where every jigsaw piece you add just makes two other pieces just evaporate like what the i can't solve this thing man yeah it's like an old jigsaw from the attic where the pieces are missing you're trying to put like a peanut in one of the holes and then when you do get it together
Starting point is 00:19:02 the picture is a skeleton so it really wasn't worth making in the first place each piece is a picture of a skeleton it's like you put the final one and you're like it's a skeleton lake of course you should have seen that coming but the dents in the skulls seemed to not be from a weapon but instead something rounded okay Okay. To make things more confusing, these were the skeletons of not only men, but women and children, meaning that this wasn't some sort of army that had got caught up in a battle. Right, that's a good point to make. The bodies had wounds on their heads and shoulders as if all of the blows had come from directly above. Now, to try and find answers to this mystery, I googled everything.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Death from above, mysterious dent in skull, can birds fall out of the sky so fast that they kill people? But the key to unraveling this great mystery may lie in an ancient Himalayan folk song. Really? That's where it was going this whole time. There was no other path that we could go down, guys. The lyrics to the song talk about Nanda Devi,
Starting point is 00:20:12 an angry goddess who executes her wrath on anyone that crosses her. Many activities, whether it's a village festival or a special family event, will begin with an offering that ranges from simple stones coins and flowers to animals as to not piss her off wow it sounds weird but you know very similar to uh christians saying grace before a meal but that's more to give thanks rather than to not piss off God.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Yeah. Like God doesn't have like his fist cocked back. He's like, if you don't thank me for that subway sandwich, I'm going to punch you in the back of the head. Say I'm sending you to the goddamn skeleton lake if you don't thank me for that Big Mac. Yeah. You know, it's kind of like if someone invites you on to their house for Christmas dinner or Thanksgiving dinner. You dinner, you're kind of expected to bring something, right? Except this is where the host or the cook has their fist cocked back. And if you didn't bring any mac and cheese or any Christmas dessert, they will turn you into a skeleton again. again well in one song the lyrics describe this goddess as being so furious at a group of outsiders who defiled her mountain sanctuary that she rained death upon them by flinging hailstones hard as iron
Starting point is 00:21:35 from above could this skeleton pile be the remains of travelers who upset the goddess they are circular yes i think from above uh hail has been known to kill people occasionally right i've seen some videos but now that i think about it they might have been from the day after tomorrow the popular apocalyptic movie right but i'm pretty sure there are videos where it's like hailstones are like taking out car windshields. The Day After Tomorrow is as good to me as an ancient Himalayan song. That's like the ancient Himalayan song for white people. Yeah. The Day After Tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Culture isn't that old. No. Or good. So yeah, that kind of makes sense. We can really toss out all our old culture and get just stuff with Jake Gyllenhaal in there. Yeah. Running away from the
Starting point is 00:22:25 wind and the cold it doesn't necessarily explain the mystery surrounding the skeleton lake some scientists said look anytime you find a huge pile of skeletons lying around in the middle of nowhere it's usually a graveyard that's the kind of popular scientific explanation even though that doesn't answer all the questions and while yes it does make almost zero sense why a graveyard this large would be 16 000 feet above sea level there have been a lot of graveyards uncovered in very strange places throughout history is that so so i did a little searching on the internet. I ended up on listverse.com. Classic. They had a great article that was 10 ancient mass graves that were only recently found.
Starting point is 00:23:12 And I found some good ones from them and a couple other sites. So starting off, while constructing a relief road for the 2012 London Olympics in 2009, construction workers found an ancient mass grave in england at first there were questions about who the deceased were and how they got there however after their teeth were examined it was discovered the skeletons were not of ancient britons and saxons but instead they were scandinavian v Vikings, thought to have been killed and buried between 910 and 1030 AD. Damn, that's wild. A thousand-year-old, over a thousand-year-old skeletons in London.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I think like Viking skeletons along with maybe pirate skeletons, probably some of the coolest skeletons you can find. Yeah, wow. Because they're going to have like golden teeth and weird little jewels and a big sword you know i i mean i shouldn't be surprised by any of these stories of uh secret mass graves because to be fair um in work recently on our company slack channel someone linked a bbc article they were like hey by the way they uncovered uh a skeleton lake across the road from the office i think it was like 50 000 what bodies or something like that they uncovered a lot of bodies a lot of ancient bodies by your
Starting point is 00:24:32 office yeah in london wondering the office is looking really shifty well that's so weird why would it even why would they even bury them here wouldn't that be weird if the guy that worked not not that he does work here but if he did work here hypothetically he's like really sweating now dusting off his dirty hands that would be so weird if why would he why would he do it so clearly why would they do it so close yeah i mean it is weird but uh you know these guys are pretty ancient actually hundreds of years old so of course it's old old news he or she or whoever whoever would have would have had to have done that would have had to have been borderline immortal i mean we don't think that it was like one person really because of course you would have to live an incredibly long time to to kill that many people yeah so
Starting point is 00:25:13 it's probably a graveyard or something the likelihood that like one one guy or woman or child or man or man uh who just you know worked in a london office two thousand years ago drank blood from a monkey skull yeah i mean there were skull that would be that would be crazy if that if that were to happen and that he would and then he would he would that he would be alive today and burying bodies yeah yeah wait i'm just gonna take a call real quick what's that okay they found a business card in the pit they found a business card in the pit where the bodies were the thousands and thousands of bodies were? Can you make out the name on it? I'm gonna work from home today, actually, I think.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Really? Jessica, could you forward my... Brent? It's a Brent. There's lots of Brents in the world. I wonder what the last name is. Can you make that out? Everyone, I think I'm actually I'm gonna go on leave for a little while. Permanently. It's been great working here.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I think it's actually time for old Brent to enter. You know my name, actually. What was that? Did you overhear my phone call? All the tools I'm throwing into my bags are just like a shovel, a knife, an ancient tablet. An ancient monkey fist. Imagine you had that much power and you still worked in an office in London. Real life for 2 000 years and all you did was just kill and hide the bodies across the road
Starting point is 00:26:31 man if i was alive for 2 000 years and killed thousands of people i'd be angry if i still had a linkedin account grave number two while digging the foundation for a new museum on the small island of lazaretto a grave containing 1500 corpses were found the bodies gave a clear picture about one of the scariest events to sweep across europe the black plague i wanted to include this one because this is really really cool and kind of disturbing uh during the 15th and 16th century this place served as europe's first quarantine colony for those infected oh wow in 1485 in an effort to end the rapid infection of the population officials put the infected on a boat basically and sent them to this small island since Since the bodies were also known to cause
Starting point is 00:27:25 the plague to spread they were burned on the island rather than transported back to the city. Good lord. So it just became this creepy death plague island. Yeah. Really really disturbing. And finally this is probably uh my favorite of all the stories that we're going to talk about this evening about an ancient grave that was discovered recently in 2016. Cylon was a celebrity athlete who won the double foot race in the Olympics during the 7th century BC. I'm sorry, the double foot race implies the existence of the single foot race? I'm not sure what that means. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:00 To run using both feet? He was the Kobe of the 7th century BC. Seizing upon his celebrity status, he gathered a group of his followers and tried to take the Acropolis. Remind me what the Acropolis was. Was that the city? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:18 He's basically trying to overthrow the government. He got so hyped on his win that he was like, they're like, the winner is Cylon. The crowd's cheering. He's like, holy, oh my, let's take down the government. I mean, is there any sports team that could touch that today? Do you think like the Lakers winning the NBA finals could do it? I think it weirdly has to be an Olympic athlete.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Okay, like one guy? Yeah. Okay. Like if Michael Phelps just one day swam so good and everyone was just like this is mind-blowing he's a god like we should worship him he's like we should we should every city should have a pool how did it feel out there winning the uh the olympic gold for the united states president what i'm the president now he snaps the interviewer's neck humans we must go back to the sea we were meant for the sea whole crowd cheering jumping into the pool like
Starting point is 00:29:17 the end of a party they failed of course and while cylon and his core group managed to escape, the remainder of his followers were all caught, rounded up and killed. Oh, geez. Obviously. That's impressive, honestly, that he escaped. Although they should have seen it coming, him being the champion foot racer. At the start, he just kind of took off and one guard was like, after him. And then the chief was like, there's no point. We'll never catch him.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Send the mayonnaise guy. Let him go. Might be able to do something. In April 2016, what is believed to be the graves of his followers were found. 85 men, 36 were bound and shackled. That's when you know you made a boo-boo, folks. Is whenever there's a mass grave named after your mistake and you have to use your olympic ability to flee your hometown especially yeah if you were like
Starting point is 00:30:16 a hero to these people you were like borderline a god and you have to kind of run away you know get an old cloak with a hood move to a new town and people are like hey aren't you that guy Cylon who's really good at running you're like oh no no no I can barely run in my life look at me go and you're doing like a little jog like is this is this right I don't even know how how good it can only do it so fast they're like man it's pretty good oh sorry yeah it's pretty brutal uh I'd like to think that uh nothing we do will lead to mass graves hopefully fingers do a lot of followers that's true but and we do make a lot of bad mistakes but yeah fingers crossed there was no kind of you kind of you were like we have
Starting point is 00:30:58 a lot of followers and we do make a lot of mistakes so i guess so i guess arguably we do have all the recipe the recipe the ingredients are there for a catastrophe like that but uh you know here's hoping here's open here's hoping what well you know whatever that doesn't happen or whatever that there isn't like a masquerade in a thousand years you know of all our followers just the way you're i just don't know there's that much we can do to stop it if it's if it's gonna happen it might just is gonna happen we could try we could sure as hell you could say you know sounds like work you know what i mean just like putting stuff in place to make sure that doesn't happen yeah it's more i think the things in place given that we could so easily escape because we got the the helicopter pad ready to go in case anything
Starting point is 00:31:42 kicks off you went through with the helicopter pad? Oh, yeah. That was a lot of our Patreon money, by the way, was installing the helicopter pad. Yeah, it was actually, I had to get Patreon to front us for a couple years to get the helicopter pad. But I really think, given what's around the corner, it's going to be worth it. Okay, well, now you're talking like it's inevitable. And I asked you when you started work on the pad, I was like,
Starting point is 00:32:01 this is fine, but you just got to promise me this isn't to escape. I said, yeah, it's just for, like, tourists around the commune, like this is fine but you just gotta promise me this isn't to escape i said yeah it's just for like tourists around the commune like helicopter little tourist tours that's what you said at the time but now it seems like you're telling the commune members what i mean like you gotta you gotta have a front you're also telling them to rise up and take over the government yeah which is um foolhardy and wrong very wrong um and you've promised but there's a minute chance they might succeed and to risk their lives for that minute chance that's worth it in my opinion you've also promised them
Starting point is 00:32:31 if anything goes south that they are guaranteed a spot in the helicopter yeah you realize there's almost 20 000 of them well i've promised them all individually that and said you're so special i'm willing to to offer you the spot honestly rory's kind of 50 50 whether he even gets a spot but between me and you you're on there just keep it to yourself though don't tell anyone else i did that 20 000 times over this is so much work yeah for the slight possibility that they will overthrow the i guess when you put it like that yeah you know we're on the podcast right now, right? There's a mic in front of your mouth. What?
Starting point is 00:33:06 This is going out. Turn this f***ing shit off. The sounds of a helicopter escaping into the distance. And crashing immediately. I should have learned to fly this thing. You put so much work into structuring this government takeover you didn't learn to fly the helicopter once it takes off gets two feet off the ground and goes straight into a rock just like one of those like videos of a of someone flying a drone for the first time
Starting point is 00:33:38 it gets one foot and then goes 80 miles per hour into the nearest wall i like the idea that you're just walking through uh the paranormal commune you just overhear two of the members speaking just being like oh man my breath really smells have you got a mint and you're like government it's it's begun straight into the helicopter straight off a cliff it's like he's so jumpy. Shooting wildly. Yeah, yeah. There can only be one. You shoot your own propeller. Hit the fuel tank. It's just 20,000 people just watching you go down over the horizon. He was so weird.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Explosion on the horizon. You walk out, you're like, what did I miss? Look, the other thing that we could talk about, which we won't in this podcast, is a lot of people dying up in the Himalayas. Is this possibly the work of the Yeti, the Abominable Snowman? I didn't see Link strong enough for us to have any sort of focus on him for the episode. Because I don't think we've done one on the Yeti before. Right, not the Abominable Snowman. I haven't done it yeti
Starting point is 00:34:45 so so we i'm gonna i'm gonna steer away from that because i also don't think it has anything to do with the skeleton lake unless he is like yeah unless he was famous for his ability to massacre thousands of people uh with a single downward bonk with his large yeti fist with a kettlebell because it was apparently something round uh yeah if he was famous for that maybe but given he has claws and things and teeth i think we're all right that's a that's a different episode maybe a christmas episode we'll get like some jingle bells in the background but a little creepy creepy vibe to it but that basically uh ends the this investigation today into the skeleton lake hidden away in the himalayas bit of a different one i like that a lot you know it it does have
Starting point is 00:35:33 a paranormal explanation uh that comes in the form of the ancient himalayan folk song about the the vengeful goddess but really at its core it's more of just a strange mystery that uh was so interesting that i just had to talk about it on the podcast totally and it it's actually you can totally see where even the the legend of the god comes from because in any other time in history if you came across that mystery you would try to solve it in some paranormal way you'd be like come on 800 bodies or thousands of bodies like this has to be a god it can't be one thing it can't be hail yeah it can't be weather it can't be even the yeti yeah yeah it's got to be a god or a demon or something something that can that can span that many years thousand years, to have skeletons turning up in this lake.
Starting point is 00:36:26 So strange. Well, Kit, we don't need to dance around it. I presented you with a lot of evidence for and against this lake being paranormal. What are you coming down on? Listen, Rory, no one wants to believe in a skeleton lake more than me. You know, what's greater than the idea of an army of skeletons being laid to rest
Starting point is 00:36:49 in one creepy location and some paranormal explanation for why they're there? You know, it's like the skeleton army from Lord of the Rings or something. It's inherently dope and badass. I guess maybe the problem I have is that one of our paranormal explanations is told through history in this Himalayan folk song, but actually the method contained in that folk song for how these people died was hail, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:37:14 I can see where you're going with this. So it seems hard to ignore that it could be that ancient peoples tried to understand what happened through paranormal means, but they were actually describing a natural phenomenon. It's like tales of the great flood. It's like, okay, maybe God caused the great flood, or the earth might have flooded on its own. And that's what got passed on through the ages. And similarly here, it's kind of easy to believe that weather could have done this across a thousand years.
Starting point is 00:37:47 But was that caused by an angry god? I'm not sure we have the evidence for that. It's really weird to have the paranormal reason still so closely linked to just something that can happen in the real world. Yeah. It's like someone telling a story about a Bigfoot sighting where bigfoot killed a guy but he just pulled out a glock and shot him in the woods it's like okay well yeah they found a body and had a bullet in it because someone got shot in the woods not necessarily because bigfoot did it these people possibly died because hail the size of american football started raining down and
Starting point is 00:38:22 battering them that could have been just a geological storm not necessarily the wrath of a goddess totally but as the investigator in this one what are you thinking dude i have no idea i'll be i'll be honest with you allow me to be frank it's all about the benjamins here folks and this one just throws so many turns and spins that you feel like you've been in a tornado after investigating it. We've got all these people from all of these places in the world. That already doesn't make sense. Men, women and children. So it's not even expedition.
Starting point is 00:38:56 They didn't really have any weapons in the lake. So it wasn't an army. And it was over the span of like a thousand years all with similar injuries the only thing that makes a slight bit of sense is quite possibly the scientific explanation which was that this was some sort of graveyard the reasoning behind why these skeletons i guess they were bodies at the time were dumped in this lake i wouldn't go that far the reason they were bodies at the time, were dumped in this lake. No, I wouldn't go that far. The reason they were dumped, brought up here and dumped in this lake has been lost. Nobody knows why. Maybe some of the skeletons that were there from more recent times, maybe they were travelers.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Maybe they were people who had come up in the Himalayas and gotten lost or fallen down into the lake. But aside from that, I cannot cannot i can't think of any explanation but i also don't have a reason to think it's paranormal yeah which is kind of a weird one to be in it's like i don't have the answers but i don't think it's paranormal i think you're right i mean this is like you said just falling into a camp of like more unexplained mystery than clear-cut paranormal case yeah uh so i think this week unfortunately it's going to be a double no that's right sadly in the absence of evidence we can't just round up to a yes it's got to be a no we're in a no drought folks like the skeleton lake itself it's dried up the yes lake is dried up
Starting point is 00:40:20 um i'm gonna try i'm gonna try and amend that i wanted to cover this one because i thought it was a very cool story but um yeah i don't think we necessarily thought it was leading towards a double yes in terms of uh whether or not it's paranormal yeah i don't know how many people we blindsided with that imagine so a double yes right skeletons in a lake obviously so this week it's going to be a double no but thank you for listening to this week's episode of This Paranormal Life. We're all skeletons, whether you like it or not. Inside you is a skeleton. Inside me is a skeleton. And if you go into patreon.com, you can get extra specs and you can see everyone in their true skeleton form. That is on a very, very high tier. As you know, we don't run ads on this podcast. We ad free since 2003 that's right that's when the idea was first conceived took us a while to get going on i was 12 years old um so one of the best
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Starting point is 00:42:49 Damien White Walker is a bit of a skeleton himself. Kind of an undead army kind of guy. What do you mean kind of guy? Is he or is he not a skeleton? He mostly lives like me and you in this world. Listen to podcasts, you know, walking around, getting pizza delivered once a week. But he is in an army of the undead.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Okay, so that's not like us, really. He is a white walker, yeah. Okay, well, hey, glad you're enjoying the show. Thank you to Adam Pellington. Adam Pellington, mayor of Wellington. Yeah, Adam... Crazy story. He basically... He won silver in the shot put in the Commonwealth Games,
Starting point is 00:43:32 held in Wellington that year. Wow. And as they were giving the gold medal as their medal, he said, F*** it, we overthrow Wellington tonight, my friends. No one followed. Everyone was cheering the gold medalist no one was even looking at the silver medalist of course yeah you gotta at least win gold if
Starting point is 00:43:49 you're gonna overthrow the government but the mayor was at the games that night and so no one was in the office when adam swung in and took control so it kind of worked well done adam thank you to joseph darby joseph is bigger than massive he's mosev he's enormous he's mosev he's absolutely mosev that's crazy man it's been that way since birth he started off the size of a truck at birth at birth and ended up the size of a slightly bigger truck okay so mostly truck size which is still pretty impressive it is so it was it was good to begin with and it's good now he's absolutely immersive thank you to emily evans emily has a pretty big family oh that's nice family about 800 skeletons all the bottom of a lake my friend could i venture to guess family might also be a skeleton okay it turns out you could guess i didn't think you were gonna get that but yes she she is a skeleton thank you to adam taylor
Starting point is 00:45:01 adam taylor the paranormal sailor, only investigator brave enough to face the icy waters of the Skeleton Lake. Oh, holy smokes. People told him, it's like you just learned how to sail. You should probably start on like calm waters or a river. And he was like, no. He dragged his boat 16,000 feet up the Himalayan mountains.
Starting point is 00:45:22 That thing was heavy as hell. Holy moly. if you weren't a skeleton by the time you started that journey probably by the time you get up 16 000 feet he didn't leave the lake that's for sure thank you to heather the meme heather is pretty good at predicting the weather and her current prediction is 90 chance of giant hail balls oh raining down from above that's right someone upset the icy goddess once again is this like here it's here holy we need to go into a bunker jesus these things are gonna be this they're gonna be absolutely moseph the size of trucks thank you also to scott perry also nicknamed scott perry Mid for his money-saving schemes
Starting point is 00:46:05 that he has rolled out throughout the paranormal commune. I don't know if that's a money-saving scheme. You save money, so you make money. Wait, you make money, so you save money. Is that what he told you? He said a lot of things, but he was very handsome and he charmed me.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Thank you to Angie Voss. Angie Voss is an angry boss. Not the kind of person you want to miss that report deadline uh with you know right yeah because they will they will bring their large circular fist into your head and kill you on the spot and you know where you're ending up after that so we don't have to mention it it's a lake a bony lake right sure he went without saying thank you to ladale turner watch out for the hail turner oh it's too late jesus that was gruesome our newest and most recently deceased member of the commune uh i hope you can enjoy bonus episodes from the lake. Thank you to Izzy. I don't know if Izzy is a human, Izzy ghost, Izzy beast. But whatever Izzy is, Izzy has ears and can somehow listen to the show.
Starting point is 00:47:18 So I hope they enjoy it. That's nice. Just to confirm, Izzy is a beast with no ears oh damn it yeah thank you to zachary hardy zachary hardy is the paranormal communes night watchman but zachary hardy is actually hardly on patrol he actually he actually gets pretty sleepy at nighttime like most humans. Oh. So he clocks on about 8.30 and conks out about 9.45. Yeah. I mean, that's even early for someone who sleeps at night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:53 He doesn't even make it to like midnight or something. He's wrecked. He is wrecked. Does he at least get up early and try and pretend to finish the shift? Oh, 100%. Yeah. He'll sometimes just grab a random person off the street and be like i arrested this person last night when i was doing my goddamn job it's like zachary we you just
Starting point is 00:48:11 woke up three minutes ago we can transfer you to the day shift if you would prefer no i refuse i won't be able to sleep during the day idiot i'm sleeping on the job but You don't have a job, no. Thank you to Selena. Selena, we should call you Skellina. Where is your flesh? Where are your eyes? Where's your heart? What's it like being a skeleton? I've thought about trans, you know, transferring myself,
Starting point is 00:48:38 but I want someone to do it first and tell me what it's like. Is it cold? It looks cold. Just let me know. Just let me know. I'm just imagining she talks first and tell me what it's like. Is it cold? It looks cold. Just let me know. Just let me know. I'm just imagining she talks back and it's just... Yeah. It's a lot of chattering of bones.
Starting point is 00:48:54 What's it like being a skeleton? Okay. All right. I think I'm going to stay human for now. Probably. Is that good? Thank you to Claudia Nicholson. Claudia Nicholson has found herself in a pickle son she is simply drowning amid a sea of skeletons trying to you know recharge for anything she could
Starting point is 00:49:16 hold on to to to not go under but there's not it's just more bones yeah bone after bone after bone elodia think claudia is gonna make it but i can assure you she's gone she's god yeah thank you to katie wood katie wood queen of the forest made entirely out of polystyrene that doesn't seem right yeah but no one's questioned it so far you know polystyrene interesting yeah but it kind of looks a little bit like wood. So every time someone's like, hey, are you sure you're actually queen? She goes, silence!
Starting point is 00:49:52 And then a breeze takes her away because she's so light. So she's getting away with it. If I was made of polystyrene, I wouldn't want to be queen of the polystyrene kingdom. True. That place sucks. Thank you to CGB.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Wow, it's lovely to know that a color game boy has become animate somehow and has started connected to the internet um apparently and managed to download this part of my life and become a patron cool to know amazing i hope all the other nintendo products get involved a switch a gamecube and 64 i want them all to listen the whole family thank you to lars sticklestad lars wants to be the first man on mars is that right he has no formal education of um engineering or you know space exploration but he can jump pretty high and he thinks if he just trains and trains one day he can jump the barrier to the nasa headquarters and steal a rocket okay that makes a lot more sense i thought you were gonna say
Starting point is 00:50:51 jump to mars what are you a dumbass no thank you to keith curtis keith curtis tell me where the shirt is i recently purchased a 32 karat gold t T-shirt for the Paranormal Commune. I know times have been hard, and I really thought if these peasants saw me in a golden shirt, it would motivate them to see that their lord is doing so well. Curtis stole it, and I think he tried to Robin Hood-style distribute pieces of it out to the Commune so everyone could have a bit of the Emperor's shirt. But enough of your games. I'm cold
Starting point is 00:51:30 and my nipples are exposed. I need my golden top. You don't have any other tops? I refuse to wear the clothes of the peasants lest I be confused as one. Well, you're currently topless showing your nipples so you're kind of lower than a peasant currently. you to stephanie bryant stephanie bryant the skeleton giant uh she is kind of
Starting point is 00:51:51 a megazord if you will she's other skeletons she's beyond moseph wow it's that's too many things going on to be abnormally large and also a skeleton pretty cool to just hold on to that abnormally large and also a skeleton. Pretty cool to just hold on to that name Stephanie, though. Through it all. Through it all. I like that. I like that a lot.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Thank you, lastly, but not leastly, to Fred Barton. Fred, you are dead if you don't track down my golden t-shirt. All right? The weather is changing. It's getting cold, and my nips could cut glass over here. I need a t-shirt. I don't think that's even going to be a warm t-shirt, though. No, it's incredibly uncomfortable and not very flexible either. It's borderline a suit of armor.
Starting point is 00:52:34 But the emperor wears what the emperor must wear. And I'm the emperor and I must wear gold. Can I ask what you're wearing on your bottom half? Golden, three-quarter length shorts. I think you need like some, like you keep saying it's so cold, but you're currently topless wearing shorts. They're not really shorts. Metal shorts.
Starting point is 00:52:53 They're two slabs of gold that I've kind of forced my way into. It's very hard to pee in them. Okay. And my pee's gold, by the way, because I've been drinking gold. Thank you to Fred and thank you to everyone that we shouted out uh very exciting that next week will be uh our halloween special for this year oh my god another year flying by um so so get excited for that we'll be coming uh back at you next tuesday so i hope you have a very spooky week. And until then, we'll see you later. Ciao.

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