This Paranormal Life - #193 El Silbón - If You Hear This Whistle... RUN

Episode Date: December 29, 2020

What would you do if you were followed all your life by the same sound? No matter where you went, the eerie whistle of El Silbón followed you. This week Kit and Rory tackle one of their most terrifyi...ng cases yet.Youtube Clip Mentioned on the podcast - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9OLi6A2rzU&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=KirkMasonPatreonpatreon.com/ThisParanormalLifeYouTubeyoutube.com/thisparanormallifeTwittertwitter.com/ThisParaLifeInstagraminstagram.com/thisparanormallifeSecret Society Facebook Pagewww.facebook.com/groups/thisparanormallife/Edited by Kami Tomanhttps://TomanEdits.comIntro music: www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What happens if you open a soda in space? How many batteries can you eat before you die? All of these questions you can find the answer to on This Paranormal Life! Hello everyone, welcome to This Paranormal Life, the comedy paranormal podcast where every week myself and this guy Kit Greer investigate- You will speak when spoken to mother i wasn't done with the intro coming a little hot sorry is everything all right sorry that's just usually usually i feel like the intro to a podcast is a sign of how smoothly things are going to run so it perfectly recited so probably if it was perfectly done it would be a perfect podcast
Starting point is 00:00:42 so i don't get to talk no i just let me go obviously cut that take don't don't include that take uh that's fine this thing we edit son of a bitch i was just saying we edit the show so it's all good we can make as many mistakes as we like well i keep it loosey no no no we didn't it needs to be straight going from the top again uh we still rolling yeah we're starting yeah yeah but it's a comedy show man so like it's all good you can just take it easy all right i'm geared up to go going again in three two one welcome hello listen i was just saying hey there's you've said quite enough you've said quite enough i'm hosting this week's episode and it's actually quite a serious one so i insist that i that i demand your respect what you turn off my mic this is
Starting point is 00:01:31 bullshit man exactly and it's gonna remain off guys too man no it's gonna remain off until i get through the intros my name is roy powers this guy's kit greer say hi kit hey hey can anyone still hear me uh we might have to put we might have to put him in from another episode that's fine we're gonna keep going welcome to this paranormal life the comedy paranormal podcast where every week myself and this guy investigate a brand new paranormal tale and come to a conclusion as to whether or not it is paranormal we have decades nay years nay days of paranormal experience behind us and we're ready to put it to the test today as we investigate I'm not gonna dance around
Starting point is 00:02:10 it this is possibly one of the scariest cases that I haven't ever investigated holy shit yeah in over a hundred and ninety investigations yeah that's right why are you getting involved sorry we got to go from the top here. Series chipping in. Three, two, one. Welcome to this Panorama Live podcast, the comedy panorama. Welcome to the podcast. You know what it is.
Starting point is 00:02:36 It's scary. We don't attract new listeners. Look, we don't like to dilly dally, usually too much at the start of the podcast. Let's just get into today's case. Let's go. Today's case was an email submission by a listener called Roland Montgomery. Roland did something that I really haven't seen done a lot before. He sent me an email for a case to investigate,
Starting point is 00:02:59 but pretty much investigated the entire thing himself. Oh, wow. I felt like doing like a peer review you know like getting like a lecturer to take a look at your dissertation instead of you know doing that review and giving your your critique back to him what he could have done better next time what was fantastic you stole it yeah i completely ganked it i basically printed out his email and just crossed out his name and put yours in okay rory montgomery wrote me himself a great email the email said hey paranormal pals i haven't been a listener for long but i blazed through each of
Starting point is 00:03:33 your episodes in about three months or so i don't have the episodes in front of me as i type this but i don't recall a ton of them featuring south american legends. So digging through the stories I remember being told, and those I remember reading, I found one that y'all might be interested in. This is a collection of notes I have on the Venezuelan legend of El Silbón, also known as The Whistler. The first story that Roland listed in the email is from Reddit. Under the thread, what is the creepiest thing that has ever actually happened to you? The following story was written by user bingbong1234.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Perfect. Chilling. Bingbong wrote, I've been waiting a long time to tell Reddit the full story of The Whistler. I've been waiting a long time to tell Reddit the full story of the Whistler. This story requires many details, but it is unexplainable, creepy, and 100% true. I cannot begin to explain, and yet I must list detail after detail that you will not believe. When I was about eight years old, I was taking my dog for a walk through the neighborhood with my mom.
Starting point is 00:04:44 It was maybe 11 p.m. We live next to a swamp slash wooded area on the edge of our neighborhood in Michigan. I remember it being very silent and slightly windy. From down in the swamp, we heard somebody whistling at us. It sounded like sort of a bird, but each whistle was different enough where the lack of consistency made it sound human-like. The whistle sounded higher, then lower. I can't really describe it. My mom had a concerned, slightly terrified look on her face, and grabbed my hand and
Starting point is 00:05:15 said we should go inside quickly. I didn't understand because I was too young, but seeing my mom freak out made me freak out too. After a while though, I kind of forgot about it. Two years later, I was taking my dog out again late at night. There's a large bush in front that could easily obscure a person behind it, just next to the front door. As I was finishing the walk, the whistling noise started again.
Starting point is 00:05:41 The same pitches, the same inconsistent human-like tones. As soon as I heard it, a chill went down my spine. I remember exactly the feeling of seeing my mom terrified, looking down into the swamp at something I couldn't see. Maybe she couldn't either. I ran inside as fast as I possibly could. The years went by once again and i thought about it less and less i told only a handful of people and eventually it slipped from my mind and they're not gonna be very supportive they're not gonna understand you heard a whistle hell i don't understand yeah it's it's kind of a difficult situation to be in yeah you might want to be there like Like, really? Did you need to piss yourself? You might want to spice that one up with throw a weapon in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Or a growl or a rumble or something. The whistle by itself isn't very intimidating. Yeah. I mean, this is usually how paranormal legends start. It starts with the whistle and you throw in some glowing red eyes in the woods. Whereas this could just be like, you know, I was walking by a construction site late at night and I heard a... Hey, beautiful! Hey, you sexy little f***ing piece of...
Starting point is 00:06:52 Piece of... Piece of beautiful ass! I felt slightly terrified and concerned. Fast forward to last summer. I'm 24. Started dating my girl, Sarah. We moved out to South Dakota for work. For Independence Day, we decided to go and watch the fireworks along the
Starting point is 00:07:10 banks of the Missouri River. There was a free camping spot behind a hospital where you could pitch your tent, hang out, and see the fireworks up the river. We were near the end of the campground and there were very few people around us. As it was getting dark, the fireworks began. They were pretty far away so the illumination that they brought was very little. Thus we had to sit right at the edge of the river to be able to see them. A huge thunder head was moving in and a storm was imminent so the air seemed electric and the wind was picking up. The atmosphere was eerie to say the least
Starting point is 00:07:49 Firework thunderstorm that is explosive. That's a deadly combo The police boats herded all the other boats off of the river and had left our area to do that elsewhere Most of the other campers walked up the river to have a better view of the fireworks But Sarah and I stayed back and we're drinking our PBR Tallboys and kicking it. Heyo! Very romantic, my friend. Nicely done. Suddenly, we heard the sound of a paddle methodically dipping into the water. We saw a figure steering a canoe about 20 meters offshore. Sarah decided to go get more beers from the car.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I'm gonna get more beers from the car! Leaving me alone to stare at this mystery person. And then... My entire body was frozen and covered in goosebumps. It was the exact same whistler from my childhood, more than a decade earlier. I looked at the figure, but it was too dark to see who it could be. When they were perpendicular to the shore from me, they stopped paddling and turned the canoe directly to face me and whistled right at me.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Whoa. So this is the exact same high, then low, then high, then low. Weird, creepy, methodical, inconsistent whistling he'd heard from his childhood. Again, not scary on paper this guy in the boat is just whistling gangnam style it's kind of difficult because it's like this is this is a scary story but again it's still just whistling yeah so it's it's you're not really ramping the tension up and you're gonna have a hard time explaining that one to Sarah. Yeah. Surely. Hey, I got a couple more of the tall boys.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Where the f*** were you, Sarah? He's sweating. He's been telling her about the whistler for years. Coincidentally, he only shows up when she's gone. When she goes for snacks. She just comes back from the refrigerator with like, you know, a nice slice of cake. Comes back into the living room. He's sweating. He's clammed up into a ball was it the whistler yes it was okay great did i just miss him of course yeah the whistler mostly comes when i'm at the office from ours 9
Starting point is 00:09:57 a.m to 5 30 p.m also the whistler arrives when i go to the bathroom on my own also when i go to doctor's appointments dentist appointments appointments, things like that. Sarah phones him up and he's like, it's like, yeah, I need you to actually pick up the kids after work today. My schedule's pretty slammed. And he's just like, oh, yeah, sure, baby. I think I... Oh!
Starting point is 00:10:19 Oh! I'm going to have... I don't know if I can do it, actually. Oh, I think he's... Really? Oh, he's definitely's I can hear the wind On the receiver Do you remember the story I told you Sarah
Starting point is 00:10:30 We went to couples therapy about this in fact And they said you gotta stop Using the whistler As a crutch You might actually have to make dinner tonight as well Sarah Because he seems pissed Because the whistler's hungry is he coming to dinner He wants chicken he says I think fried KFC He he said don't be skimpy either go full out
Starting point is 00:10:50 he said that's great he wants to he wants to go for a beer as well so i'm gonna be actually back late okay i thought you were scared of the whistler i'm scared of what he'll do sarah if i don't go with him to the bar and I might not be back tonight for the KFC So just put it in put the bucket in the fridge and maybe I'll see you in a couple days A couple days? I can't hear you! I can't hear you over the whistles! What the f*** you guys gonna talk about at the bar? He can only whistle.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Just like obviously off mic. Yeah she bought it. She's a diva. Every time it's great. I can hear this. Oh! Sorry Sarah! This is like three guys chuckling in the background. Every time it's great. I can hear this There's like three guys chuckling in the background the story continues I'm a videographer So I already have my camera by my side and was taking a video of the fireworks as the canoe was almost out of sight I grabbed my camera and got a shot of them whistling as they went away When Sarah came back from getting beers she was very
Starting point is 00:11:46 confused as to why i was so freaked out when i explained she was freaked out a bit too i was convinced we would both be murdered that night how did this whistling person follow me after 14 years to this day i am more afraid of being outside and in the dark where I might hear that whistle again. Thoughts on the story, Kit? Immediate thoughts? Incredibly creepy. This is very true to real life. Very often we'll have paranormal cases where from the first three sentences, we're into the world of the wacky and mysterious and frankly hard to believe. Whereas this is terrifying just because you could imagine being this guy and how disconcerting that would be years apart, just because you could imagine being this guy and how disconcerting that would be years apart just when you think you're safe something so small like a
Starting point is 00:12:30 whistle you know and you're having the time of your life you're drinking looking at fireworks you're with your sweetheart and uh she leaves for five minutes and he's like battling up the river remember me oh yeah this is the scene right at the end of the uh the horror movie where the title card comes up you know 15 years later the last five minutes of the movie and it's like remember all that crazy shit that happened when we were kids yeah that's nuts anyway i'm gonna go get a beer i'll see you in a little second he's back he's right here he was just waiting yeah it's uh It's pretty scary. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:13:06 I think it's terrifying to have something like this chase you your whole life. Yes. My entire life, you know, I've been called like a disappointment. Right. From my parents and things like that. Deadbeat for me. Yeah. And that's chased me my whole life.
Starting point is 00:13:21 It's definitely a creepy story. But one of the annoying things with stories like this is that you know when you find a story like this online the problem is that it's the internet it can be convincing but there's really no evidence that we have to prove that a story like this ever took place we don't know that this isn't some kind of russian conservative propaganda bot that's malfunctioning and is writing creepypastas on Reddit. It's true. There's no face to this name. I mean it doesn't help if you rock up with a name like
Starting point is 00:13:52 bingo bongo whatever. But as Bing Bong said in the story he was a videographer before the whistling became too much and he had planned to attend the fireworks that night to capture the spectacle on camera no yeah i forgot about this bit kit i have a video taken from this exact night that when i watched literally when i watched this in my house i got chills wow okay because it's crazy you know we can tell these fantastical crazy stories and you know we use sound effects and storytelling to paint you a picture of what this night looked like i have it i have the actual video from the night normally we need to paint the picture because the picture didn't happen there's nothing to say that it ever happened this freaked this freaked
Starting point is 00:14:44 the out of me i'm not even joking around this is the most animated i've seen you about a piece of video evidence well because when i was reading it i obviously from the get-go assumed this never happened yeah yeah this is you know red flags for creepypasta territory so seeing this video was like was like watching the harry potter movie after reading harry potter You already had you already painted in your head what this looked like. Yeah, and now you're like, oh my god It's been brought to life I mean you can see the fireworks. This isn't a fake video. This is the same. This is the very night Beautiful dusky twilight fireworks in the distance, but we're hearing
Starting point is 00:15:25 a whistling in the distance for sure. And there's thunder. And the thunder! He wasn't lying about any of this. You whistling? Is that you? Stop it. This would make it at the very least difficult to enjoy the fireworks. It's getting closer for sure. I just got chills again. And he's zooming in into the river and there is a canoe or some kind of boat paddling along. And that must be where that whistling is coming from. I mean, is that not terrifying?
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Starting point is 00:16:39 I mean, wow. Roland goes on to say in his email, as others in the Reddit thread quickly put together, this sounded a lot like the Venezuelan legend of El Silbon, also known as the Whistler. Oh. Now there's a few different origin stories for El Silbon, but I found kind of the most popular one that includes most of the threads of the story so i figure we'd read that one today please love to hear it the legend goes according to wikipedia that the whistle man was once merely a spoiled little boy whose every wish was catered to by his parents one afternoon he demanded that his father hunt for a deer his favorite meat but when his father returned empty-handed
Starting point is 00:17:26 his son was furious in a fit of hungry rage he killed his father and cut out his heart and liver what i thought this was just a spoiled kid he's a demon that's extremely spoiled. His soul and mind are spoiled. Bit of an exaggeration, yeah, for sure. I mean, there's other meats, for sure. Well, you're not getting the f***ing deer meat now, are you? Putting the organs in a bag, he then offered them up to his mother, claiming they were the fresh meats to be cooked for dinner. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:18:04 But when the meat proved too tough to cook, to his mother, claiming they were the fresh meats to be cooked for dinner. Jesus. But when the meat proved too tough to cook, the mother realized what horrible deed her son had committed. She cursed her son for all eternity! But that wasn't all. The boy's grandfather ordered the youth to be tied to a post in the middle of the countryside, where he was lashed until his back was destroyed see that's a better punishment than what you say curse curse for all eternity because that
Starting point is 00:18:32 sounds cool but there's no real comeuppance is there yeah for murdering your dad susan the cursing is great don't get me wrong just in case the curse doesn't come to fruition i'm gonna whip the shit out of him because he does need some sort of punishment right here and right now. Absolutely. We need the cherry on top. He's already about roaming the streets, I think, stabbing more people. And sure, the curse is for all eternity. But until the wrath of that really kicks in, I don't think he's going to learn his lesson.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Hence the whipping. It's like when something, a natural disaster or something happens. It's like, everyone's sending thoughts and prayers. It's like everyone's sending thoughts and prayers. It's great. Keep the thoughts and prayers coming. We are going to send NGOs with aid and food. Don't need it. Yep.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Because of the thoughts and prayers. Thoughts and prayers, buddy. And they'll carry me through the air. Just in case. Just as a little add-on. Just like sprinkle it on top, you know. Nah, dude. Couldn't hurt.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Could it? It couldn't hurt, but it't it could it couldn't hurt but it also could do nothing because i got my thoughts and i got my prayers could you also though send like a priest why send a priest one of the reasons the events transpired we were cursed for eternity i see we were cursed for eternity and that actually didn't take eternity to kick in it was a real it was a day one patch that really fucking kicked my ass so uh okay so you but you're adamant you don't need the actual i don't need no i need a wizard or a priest or something like that okay they're not the same thing right so you believe in prayers but you think a priest is a wizard whatever they're whatever they're
Starting point is 00:20:01 gonna do better be pretty magic so i'm hoping it's a way of a magic wand and solve my problems is who i want to talk to yeah it's good to have some physical punishment yeah as we said just in case the curse has a little delay on rolling out yeah so the grandfather whipped him his wounds were then cleaned with alcohol and he was released only to have two rabid dogs set upon him because they like the booze which i mean fair he's done a horrible thing a little weird to tie him up whip him curse him for eternity curse him for eternity but then clean him up right well we're not animals set him free and then release the dogs to chase him down and rip him apart again it's kind of like a weird you're getting too much enjoyment out of that yeah i think the logic there was something like we're we're not letting you die
Starting point is 00:20:55 that easy right you've got to suffer some more when i was reading this i was expecting the next step to be like whoa whoa take the dogs off. Take the dogs off him. Clean the wounds. Set him free. Let the cats go. Get the cats on him. Scratch him. Rub catnip into the wounds. Before freeing him from the dogs, his grandfather condemned him to carry the bones of his father in a bag for all eternity. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Nice little touch there. Again, not sure what the rules are with condemnation is it like curses yeah it's yeah the way it's just if you believe in it or not very true like santa this grandfather was um i'd like to know what he did for a living he's a pretty cruel bastard you've eaten you've possibly cooked and eaten his son yeah um and that's crossing a line so i'd like to think that the the whipping is fair game the dogs are fair game yeah do you know what release the badgers another level uh would you like to see a picture of the whistler i would love to see that no this is el silbon el silbon same person great same person uh this is more a representation of what he uh looks like in the
Starting point is 00:22:07 modern day stories in his current 21st century ghastly form okay he looks like if shaggy from scooby-doo got bitten by a zombie he does he really does he's got the red flares in the green top oh my goodness yeah the dog that was set upon him it was scoob i didn't mention that in the story doomed to solve other mysterious cases around the world like zoinks mom dad didn't come back with the deer meat Hear me. Road home. Rijksraat, Silbon. Yeah, El Silbon is often seen with a number of other teenagers in the mystery van. Driving to abandoned theme parks and such. This really puts a new spin on the mystery machine and the gang of teenagers. Yeah, the original story was like i used to see this
Starting point is 00:23:05 hippie freak when i was a child on the tv then i saw this hippie freak later in a feature film all right you've had your fun other demons is el daphne and el fred so i mean i don't need to take away too much here from El Salabon. He's very creepy. Would not want to come across him day or night, alley or not. He's got long, creepy hair and creepy soulless eyes and a big, creepy, tattered hat. And more importantly, I should say, a bag of human limbs and bones on his back. Yeah, fair play to him for really sticking with the curse there.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I mean to this day he still continues to carry the bag of bones. But how does this ancient story of a spoiled little boy carry forward to today's world? Well the legend states that El Silbon wanders the earth as a lost soul carrying the bag filled with his father's bones and whistling his signature tune through i guess the stories and the recordings and everything people have actually managed to come to a universal agreement on what the whistle is oh it can vary because this is actually not the one heard in the example video i played earlier okay but uh it usually follows the pattern c d e f g a b okay so it goes like alphabetical order it's like a it almost sounds like a scale yeah i actually i have a recording of what people believe the whistle sounds like that's weird which i can play for
Starting point is 00:24:41 us right now let's go for those listening to the podcast do not be afraid we are about to play the sound of the whistler he has not come for your soul he's not coming for your soul yet do not pause the pod freak out and start burning your belongings and praying to the whistler yeah because you might jump the gun on that one that day might come for you one one, but hold off. I also listened to this video very late at night in my room. And this scared the shit out of me too, so be warned. That's really awful. Whenever you mention the notes, it made it sound like a lot more toneful uh than it actually is yeah it's a lot more like abstract than i thought just kind of a really horrible ascending
Starting point is 00:25:32 it's like the the each separate note is there but uh it's just ascending like you say getting higher and higher and higher until it disappears altogether almost a little faster as well like yeah and then holding on that b b b b b b yeah i mean you can see why people don't want to hear this throughout their lives totally now even though we did give a rough description uh as to what he looks like when he appears to people in the 21st century the whistler is also known to take on multiple forms not just a man but sometimes merely a shadow of a spindly thin man in the darkness okay kind of slandered man type situation others describe him as a giant towering along the treetops limbs like twisted branches wow very scary shit here folks i mean the whistling aside
Starting point is 00:26:21 seeing like a tree beard like old old man crawling through the horizons. It is fascinating, isn't it? That like, it's crazy enough for one person to dream this up and put it in a movie or a book. But for this to be a phenomenon that multiple people have seen. Yeah. That's terrifying. I really, as I said, this is one of the cases of research that genuinely freaked me out multiple times. So what does he want? meat redemption just to f**k with people whistle just to whistle
Starting point is 00:26:53 most of the modern day stories of the whistler have a lot of common themes he usually appears on hot summer days to often inflict his wrath upon drunks and womanizers okay i can appreciate that which we've kind of seen before you know there's a lot of cryptids who like you know as far back as the axe wielding goat man they just don't like teenagers hooking up and boozing on their farms yeah sometimes these cryptids have despite being non-human horrible paranormal beasts they also seem to have a moral compass for some reason very strange uh i mean this guy killed his own dad um because simply for failing to get him a nice dinner yeah um so it seems odd that he would pick on seemingly innocent people
Starting point is 00:27:45 well not quite innocent people but that he would try and exact his own vigilante justice i guess maybe it's you could almost see it like oh don't don't be like me little boys and girls yeah don't be like el silbon the sinner man i killed my fault learn from my mistakes learn from them he's out of breath learn from them it's uh you know i really have to appreciate his approach to getting away with this as well which is normally in cartoons and something i like to do if I'm about to commit a crime is start whistling to really drive home that innocence. Yeah. You could be walking on the street with you've just robbed a bank. You got a big sack with a dollar sign on it and you're walking on the street and you just have to go like.
Starting point is 00:28:42 As you're strutting. And everyone's like that guy doesn't have a care in the world yeah sir did you see which way the criminals went and maybe you've done you've done that thing where you like you hold up a newspaper to hide your face and when you put it down you've got a mustache on little things like that oh once there are criminals in the area yeah nice i wouldn't know anything about that i guess they went that way yeah i like that that's a pretty good idea so maybe that's what he's he's doing he's trying to blend in did not work for the uh arson charge in 2006 unfortunately right no no i did go down for that i did serve time and
Starting point is 00:29:20 um well i'm not sorry uh we are recording from an undisclosed location because I broke out around 2011. Been on the run ever since. You said that in the courtroom. I'm not sorry. I will break out. No one believed you. Yeah. It was pretty weird.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Well, they put me in a prison made of wood. So it's kind of... That's an oversight. It's on them, isn't it? It's definitely an oversight you know i don't think a prison made of wood well it's listen that's where they put just you and magneto yeah greg we go way back they decided that we were such a danger to society that the only way of keeping their community safe was by putting us in a boat it's kind of a viking burial type situation putting us both in a boat
Starting point is 00:30:13 just kicking it out to sea no motor no sails no rations uh and basically just figuring um they'll never get out of there hopefully like, like Osama bin Laden and Megatron, just sink to the bottom of the Mariana Trench. But I did burn down the boat, and I was able to paddleboard Magneto's body. Unfortunately, we ended up in Alcatraz. The first land we got to was another prison. The most high-security prison in the world.
Starting point is 00:30:43 A little more time there. I'd put in a little more time there but they probably should have put you there first yeah that would have been smarter than this elaborate they thought i was gonna die so fair play i would love it if they they were like we have to make sure he never burns anyone again put him in this wooden boat we'll push him off to sea and they they just launch you off the coast and watch as this boat gently curls around the horizon, straight into a forest. And the forest just goes up in flames. Ah, shit. Some people claim that his famous whistle foretells death or misfortune.
Starting point is 00:31:19 In more complex versions of the legends, people claim that the whistler will break into your house, drop his bag of bones, and begin counting them. So this is the opposite of Santa Claus. So kids, around December 25th, if you see a guy in some tattered robes coming down your chimney with a sack over his shoulder don't get too excited have a feel of those presents yeah have a feel of those presents are they hard is he nice and plump and fat from eating mince pies and cookies or is he actually skin and bones and is he whistling well that's a tricky one because i think santa also whistles right is he whistling like rudolph the red-nosed reindeer Or is he coming down like... With his spider legs, bones leaking out of his sack.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Yeah, that is a tough one. Apparently, if no one in the house hears the counting of the bones, then a member of the household will die in their sleep. Yeah, it's pretty extreme. Wow, it is interesting that he's an omen, you know, a little bit like the Banshee or something like that. you know the banshee is very similar like people traditionally in ireland if you hear a woman screaming at night in the middle of nowhere that's a banshee and someone's about to die yeah which is really worrying because more times than not it was
Starting point is 00:32:41 someone in genuine peril and the person about to die was probably the woman screaming yeah there's nothing we can do it's the man she's already dead i'm not dead i that's what she would say i can still hear her now i don't know why we went pirate there a little bit it's interchangeable my friend by far the creepiest part of the whistler's legend is that if his whistle sounds near he's actually very far away whoa but if it sounds far away he's he's right by you that's a little curveball isn't that really scary you know i could take or leave the other stuff breaking and entering counting bones sure that's a little creepy but the thought of like hearing a really distant whistle hear it it's over for you he's basically smooching your shoulder this is like scorpions
Starting point is 00:33:36 it's like if you see a big scorpion that's scary but they're not dangerous apparently it's the little one the little guy you're like ah he's cool i could smush him it's like he'll he'll kill you and your entire family yeah you gotta be careful with those ones and sometimes the big scorpions are just little ones really close up and the little ones are actually dragons on the horizon you gotta they don't they didn't teach me this in biology class but um like in between classes i would sometimes lock the doors and um like do my own presentations to the rest of the kids in school yeah so it was like well mr harrison was like he's like banging on the doors being like don't listen kids don't listen he's nuts and i'm like silence we're gonna sometimes you don't think he's a scorpion in a human costume and yeah sure
Starting point is 00:34:22 the kids didn't listen a lot of times they would beat me up and this was english lit class so it didn't even have any relevance you were still processing the morning's biology class by the time it came around to pe and you were trying to act like a scorpion on the football field i got the projector fired up i'm trying to teach everyone about the nugget cells so arrogant within five minutes of the class starting you're like oh mr harrison um i think i just heard a child in the corridor screaming for help not again rory i really think you could just take a look absolutely not all that's gonna happen you're gonna lure me outside push it right outside the classroom we'll lock the door
Starting point is 00:35:00 everyone pushes me out no you fools you're under his spell uh yeah i thought that was that's that's maybe the the scariest thing i've ever read about a cryptid before um we wouldn't be doing our job though uh if we didn't tell you how to combat against the whistler it's one thing to rile you guys up and get get you afraid of him. But without the right education. Similar to how to fend off scorpions. You know what's the point in this podcast. So here we are. Here is how to defend yourself.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Against the Whistler. There are four different techniques. Number one. You can remind him of his past actions. And curse upon him okay okay yeah scold him shame him yeah he's a child at heart so if you hear that whistle coming around the corner you know just be like hey should you really be doing this after all the shit you you've done yeah what's in that bag buddy that's what i thought exactly talk about a skeleton in your
Starting point is 00:36:02 closet number two you can crack a whip or imitate the sound of a cracking whip. Oh, because he was flogged. I believe the end quote was his back was destroyed. So I think that's a little more than whipped. Interesting. That's when the whip fuses with your skin. This is good because whenever you said ways to defend yourself, I thought it was going to be like muay thai right judo knife but uh the first one was tell him off yeah yeah these are sorry these are uh in theme with the paranormal these aren't just a gun okay number 43 though
Starting point is 00:36:37 ar-15 yeah well so some of them are obviously more practical ones uh butterfly knife was four um number five was actually duct tape the butterfly knife to the top of your uh ar-15 to create some sort of stabby gun as personal experience if i could just float my own idea sure pun intended uh if you put him inside a boat and send him out to sea right do not let him anywhere near Magneto or any other criminals, but put him in a boat, R2C, and no rations, no ore, no motor, no sail. Didn't quite work for you, but hopefully he ends up on a different... Yeah, but I'm ingenious. I'm really a master criminal arsonist,
Starting point is 00:37:16 so there's no way they're ever going to keep me pinned on like that. I will say that's not on the list, but we can add that one in as a special... I'd like that. We'll call it Kit's List. It's Kit's good so we'll keep it separate than the other actual list right but more important though so you know we'll we could we could put a link to it maybe in the description of the episode make sure people can can download that see it yeah yeah get the information yeah maybe um so there's two there's two lists i just want to make sure that right that the my list doesn't because i actually have other good ideas too so you maybe after the podcast we can go through some of these
Starting point is 00:37:49 like it like i was watching looney tunes the other day because my family said that that's the kind of mental age that i am i should just be enjoying looney tunes and in the cartoon they uh they loaded one of the animals into a cannon and it was actually pretty effective at keeping uh keeping that animal away from the other animals you don't want to just hit him with the cannon to use the weapon as a weapon and hit him with it but then he'd still be nearby you know uh i think you could get him really far away in fact in the cartoon they ended up all right they're actually extremely far away so i think i've entertained this list for for long enough there are probably people listening right now who are under threat they're hearing the whistling they're doing the fast
Starting point is 00:38:28 forward 30 seconds fast forward 30 seconds there's another idea number seven if we could just if you have some dental floss lying around honestly i really think that might tie him up i saw an episode of tom and jerry uh that worked pretty well. Get a cat. Similar to actually get a cat. Number three, get a dog. Or imitate the bark of a dog. I'm sorry. I just don't see how this is superior to any of the ideas I've come up with.
Starting point is 00:38:57 He was not only whipped, but he was set upon by dogs. By dogs. Right, you are. So you're using bits of his past to sort of trigger his ancient PTSD and freak him out. You know, maybe if he hears a dog barking, it'll all start coming back, reminding him of his past sins. This is interesting. You know, rarely do our cryptids and demons that we investigate have kind of weak spots like this. Psychological hurdles hurdles that is really strange yeah we don't come across this a lot it's it's not usually like the chupacabra has a gluten
Starting point is 00:39:33 intolerance if you just leave bread around he's toast bigfoot actually has a bum knee if you sweep it like the karate kid if you sweep it from the right angle you can take him down like a tree he's had a repetitive strain injury for a number of years springheel jack is a gambling addiction so you know if you just leave a smartphone with bet 212 or whatever he's logged in he's out he's out he's he's done springheel jack also has a big glass back that's why he has to have those trampoline legs because if he hit the ground with any sort of resistance he would shatter like glass yeah and he's just he's an old man he's been around for a long time he has him uh number four the final way to defend against
Starting point is 00:40:19 the whistler is to carry chili peppers with you oh this is a bit of a weird one. I believe it's because in one of the variations of the origin story, post-whipping but pre-dogs, the grandfather put chilies in his... His grandfather's a f***ed up son of a bitch. That's what I'm saying. There's a bit of hypocrisy going on here. Because, you know, I get that he was angry, but I really think the most just thing to do would have been to just execute him then and there but to whip him and place chili peppers in his wounds there's a
Starting point is 00:40:51 point where the mother had it right and it's just curse him and exile him and be gone forget about when you're doing more up shit than he did to get cursed you've crossed the line it's not just like a blank check where you're like, all right, I can finally do all this nasty shit. I can cut off his dick and balls and then feed the dick and balls to the dogs and then the dogs are going to kill him. Yeah, it's nuts.
Starting point is 00:41:15 But I believe that is one of the ways you can fend him off. Obviously, if he sees or smells the chili peppers, he will be reminded of the time that he may or may have not had chilies rubbed in his whip wounds wow um yeah so look there you go guys don't say that we don't just inform you but we give you ways to combat the paranormal yeah so you know cancel the muay thai class cancel the judo class you don't need it you know get rid of the taser get rid of the gun get rid of that little danger whistle. You don't need it.
Starting point is 00:41:46 No. Carry around a necklace made of garlic, a bracelet made of chili. And walk down that dark alley late at night on your own. You're going to be fine. If a stranger comes and tries to attack you, as Kit said, simply load them into a cannon and launch them to the moon. Simple. Easy. All right, Kit, I appreciate you sticking with me.
Starting point is 00:42:04 That was a bit of a long story that we tackled today. But what are your thoughts? As a professional paranormal investigator, is there enough evidence on the table today to conclude this story? This is what we love to see is whenever a modern anecdote from someone who has internet access and can write their own accounts, film them, bring that evidence to the table whenever that perfectly marries up
Starting point is 00:42:29 with an ancient legend of the paranormal in just a seemingly perfect way. Yeah. I guess we got to think about what our question is today. Is it, did this Reddit poster encounter El Silbon or is it just that, el silbon real oh that's a really good question um i guess we talked a lot about el silbon we should probably do that let's do it's a big question yeah the big question there could be little conclusions along the way, but we need a big question about El Silbon, the Whistler.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I mean, so it seems like either way, the way that we prove the existence of El Silbon is through this video. This is probably the most evidence there's ever been for El Silbon, let's face it. Probably the most evidence we've ever had on this podcast. Let's be honest. I'm not saying a lot, but that's the crux of this.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Is that video real? Now there's possibilities either way. I think we were both pretty impressed by the video. Certainly the circumstances surrounding it all seem to be pretty true. I mean, he described the weather perfectly, the fireworks, the Reddit poster seemed to be there with one other person in the video. Yeah, it's pretty nuts how perfectly the video it's not an easy situation to like orchestrate if you were trying to create it yeah to have like the firework show exactly what you described you can see the thunder in the skies down by the river late at night someone on the lake in a canoe i will say part of the trickiness with examining the veracity of this is it has some similarities to other episodes.
Starting point is 00:44:08 At one point, we investigated the giant atmospheric sky jellyfish. And some of the evidence for that was videos of things in the clouds. And there would be amazing kind of sounds coming from them. People talked about sky trumpets. kind of sounds coming from them. People talked about sky trumpets. The problem is these were a popular style of video because it's incredibly easy to layer sound over existing videos to make it seem like something new is happening. Of course. It wasn't really there. So that possibility exists here. It's kind of easy to layer on a whistling sound effect of your choice onto any video and
Starting point is 00:44:42 it'll make it seem like el silbon is there however at the same time like you said it matches up nicely with this guy in the canoe yeah and i'll say you know as people who have worked in audio before as people who have worked in film before this is pretty diegetic it definitely does not sound like this was something that was layered on top of the video it's it's for sure if it is fake it's a sophisticated job yeah very much so he did say he worked in video production he did didn't he did el spielbergo himself um yeah i think that's you know that's the evidence that uh if we go anywhere towards a yes today that's going to be what sways it i think
Starting point is 00:45:27 the this the origin story itself is a pretty far-fetched origin story we've seen very similar stories in a lot of our previous episodes of ghosts that haunt places or demons that haunt places it was this person who sinned in a past life and they were cursed or they cursed other people and now they wander the earth as a lost soul, enacting their wrath. Nothing too original there. In fact, the whistling doesn't even come into the origin story at all. Oh, yeah. At no point does he whistle. The whistling's got nothing to do with his dad.
Starting point is 00:46:01 The f***ing bones make more sense. You would think you'd hear rattling yeah whereas he seemed to have both hands free to paddle the river it's almost as if there's an origin story that needs to be placed onto this current uh paranormal creature that whistles and they've somehow like mashed these two together i get it so it's a similarity maybe in name alone yeah honestly yeah a really spooky story really spooky story i hope everyone enjoyed it hope you weren't too freaked out um hopefully what we're gonna say next will put your mind at ease kit what do you think is this truly paranormal, difficult case to get to the bottom of.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Some pretty fantastic evidence and a really fantastic story. At the same time, I can't personally vouch that this is... And I feel like a hypocrite here because we always want that evidence. I know. But I don't know that the combination of what happened in that video and what's happened in the history of El Silbon is the same story and that it's all paranormal and i think for me it's got to be a no those pieces just don't quite fit together the way you want them to not quite i will say having that incredible story from bing bong one two three four
Starting point is 00:47:18 uh accompanied by that video is probably the most convincing or some of the most convincing paranormal evidence that we've had on this podcast ever i think if the conclusion as to whether or not something weird was going on in that video i'd be much more inclined to head towards a yes but as we said today uh looking back at the bigger picture looking at elsa bond the legend the stories whether or not that creature that man exists in today's world it's gonna have to be a no for me as well i know you mean that's that's uh feels unsatisfying because we've got some good stuff here these are almost two different stories they are one is this whistler who followed this person around on uh by the river and all his life to be fair and the
Starting point is 00:48:02 other is this old ancient piece of folklore unfortunately we have grouped them together there can only be one answer and that is a double no this week but thank you so much to roland for emailing that in i couldn't believe it him just being like i just got into the show never emailed before and he sends over this freaking six page digest all about the history of the whistler incredible research so shout out to roland well done my friend you get the honorary badge of temporary paranormal investigator now that is if you would just step this way roland and we need to place you inside this cannon we just got this way, Roland, and we need to place you inside this cannon. We just got this in the commune. And we want to test it out, my friend.
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Starting point is 00:51:06 you know, about our own paranormal stories about our favorite paranormal stories about whether or not one of us secretly works for the government that was actually one of my questions i'm actually pretty interested in that one so we might lead with that one um we can actually ask that now on the at the end of this podcast uh kid do you think either one of us works for the government i would be crazy if one of us did and one of them was hiding it for years you're uh you're really uh yeah mad dogging me here i mean what are you trying to get at nothing man just wouldn't that be crazy the betrayal right that someone would have had to commit i guess it would yeah but i mean that's a long time isn't it's like go undercover and keep it completely on the dl spending so much time
Starting point is 00:51:52 i've never met your family now i think about it never met your your mom or your dad yeah no that they're they're they're a long way away we always podcast at my my house they say they live in shanghai they always they were not coming when we go in shanghai they live in a place you can't go both pretty suspicious pyongyang actually they live in pyongyang they live in pyongyang well that checks out folks i'm sorry i never doubted you man that's exactly what a paranormal investigator would say um so yeah we're going to be divulging all of our secrets um telling each other everything that we think about the government very openly. It's going to be a great little bonus episode. So if you want to check that out, that's patreon.com where that's only five bucks a month.
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Starting point is 00:53:02 And yeah, I don't know. Do you have anything to say? Just thank you, I guess. Thank you, everyone. Don't Google me. there's nothing to find there's nothing weird way to end the year yeah trying to end it on like a high no yeah like like of course like thanks for tuning in and stuff but like you know just i'm a very private person you know look into rory sure you know there's there's lots there's sure i don't that's not a weird thing to do sure you can google me if you want or google kit google anyone else no don't google me don't because i'll get in trouble not with my family of course because they're not around
Starting point is 00:53:35 but right with others totally fine i don't know why we're running on such a weird note here i feel like kit's a little little off yeah no thank you thanks everyone all right he's wearing a three piece suit i should mention in the he has been for the last two years yeah well i need the earpiece in order to to monitor the recording that didn't notice that up until now what's that what's that i didn't say anything it's under control i needed to monitor the podcast it's under control sir all right i think he's being weird it's under control dad hope all is well in Pyongyang thank you for listening to the podcast we will of course be back
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