This Paranormal Life - #219 Paranormal Artefacts - Weird Objects Found Where They SHOULDN'T BE

Episode Date: June 29, 2021

Alien computers. Electric rocks. 500 million year old hammers. What do all of these objects have in common? - They simply SHOULDN'T EXIST. And yet they have all been found right here on planet Earth. ...This week Kit and Rory dive into the murky world of OOParts, or Out Of Place Artefacts, to figure out which are paranormal and which are, well, normal!The plug rockhttps://www.theepochtimes.com/enigmalith-petradox-oopart_1524612.htmlBUY OFFICIAL TPL MERCHwww.thisparanormallife.com/storePatreonpatreon.com/ThisParanormalLifeYouTubeyoutube.com/thisparanormallifeTwittertwitter.com/ThisParaLifeInstagraminstagram.com/thisparanormallifeSecret Society Facebook Pagewww.facebook.com/groups/thisparanormallife/Edited by Kami Tomanwww.tomanedits.comResearch by Amy GrisdaleIntro music: www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How can you tell if your neighbor is a werewolf? How did people wake up before alarm clocks were invented? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life! Hello and welcome back to This Paranormal Life! Yay! This is the comedy podcast where every Tuesday we investigate a different paranormal tale, case, or claim and get to the bottom of whether it's truly paranormal or not. As always, you are joined by Kit Grimm-Ovena, that's me,
Starting point is 00:00:31 and Rory Pars, who's across from me. How are you doing today, Rory? I am hot, my friend. There's a heat wave burning its way across all of England right now, and we are in a tiny little studio room where there is no ac there is no air conditioning no fans or anything the government can get through the ac my friend they can hack it so we are just we are just cooking in this little room and no water either because they can hack the water i don't think that's i don't think they can hack the water so
Starting point is 00:01:00 you know it's a toasty one and when i get get really toasty, I start, I generally get quite flustered and start to get angry. But I'm not going to let that happen today. I'm going to remain cool, calm and collected. Yeah, we are recording in more or less a pressure cooker. So let's hope that it just taps into some rabid paranormal investigating energy. Yeah. The year is 1847. It's August in Geelong, Australia, near Melbourne.
Starting point is 00:01:30 This region was in the middle of a boom of lime burning. Basically, if you burn limestone, you can make useful things like fertilizer and construction materials. Right. Even though this area is now a beautiful seaside town, it's still called Limeburner's Point to this day. And in the summer of 1847, they were building a new lime kiln. What the f*** is limestone?
Starting point is 00:01:55 Sounds like something from Minecraft. You've never heard of limestone? Maybe I have, but the way you were saying it made it sound so weird. Limestone. Limestone. This citrusy, delicious rock. You're like, I'm so damn hot. Even the rocks sound refreshing.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I'm thinking about Corona. Corona and limestone. One morning, as the men burrowed deep into the ground, they discovered something unexpected. Five old keys had been unearthed in the deep pit, each one around two inches long. They were tied together and were encrusted with soil, with a little bit of rust showing through. The workers thought they were cool, but didn't give them much consideration overall. The lime burner pocketed them, thinking they were pretty neat.
Starting point is 00:02:43 He took one home for his kids to play with and gave one to a random passerby on his way home. And the story would have ended there if it hadn't been for a chance visit from a high-ranking policeman. Superintendent Charles Latrobe was in the area and had heard the exciting news. Not about the keys, nobody cared about them. He was interested in the excavation. He was into geology and couldn't pass up the chance to see some kick-ass sediment. G'day, boys. Nice hole you got there. Mind if I take a look? Nobody had any objections, so Charles Latrobe lowered himself into the pit. What year is this?
Starting point is 00:03:24 1847. That makes a lot of sense i'm sorry you have a problem just guys complimenting other guys holes they've dug in the ground asking if they can take a look and sure just lower them into it it was a different time back then sure yeah it wasn't like american psycho times where you'd be comparing business cards or buying stocks or something or whatever a man did in the 1980s yeah when when a man in the 1800s had a midlife crisis he couldn't get a two-seat convertible he just had to dig a hole for limestone and lower his pals into it that was it that's all you could do he was in his element and couldn't resist the urge to educate his captive audience. You know, these layers of shells tell me this spot marks a position of the shore at an ancient period.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Anything that lay in the ground has been hidden all this time, but now we get to see it. That's interesting. We pulled a bunch of keys out of there just yesterday. What? Yeah, like I said, we found some keys show me i'm i'm sorry it's very important that you show me these keys please tell me you still have them well as i said we i mean we found them but we didn't know they were they that they were that important i'm sorry you found some ancient keys buried deep in the earth and you
Starting point is 00:04:45 you didn't think they were important so what did you do you just got them at home you didn't give them to the museum yet I gave one to I'm sorry what's funny about this why are you laughing I gave one to just a man that I saw walking down the street
Starting point is 00:05:00 a guy who works at a museum is that what you mean no he just was he looked he was passing my Australian accent is getting so much worse. That's great. I feel like I need to, like, do every line, like, three times before I can say anything in Australian accent. Because I also go, like, Kiwi. I feel like I go more Kiwi with it.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I gave it to a man. Or, like, a man that worked at a museum Or an archaeologist No just a man on the road Oh my Christ alive What about the others My kids have one I think I lost the others
Starting point is 00:05:37 Your kids what ages are they One Three and one So you've got twins you could have said the one and the one at the same time jesus christ get me out of this hole but these guys were actually able to present a handful of keys to charles and he was thrilled to have the chance to examine them they were found underneath 15 feet of solid soil that was dense and undisturbed. When he ran the numbers, he worked out the keys were as much as 150 years old. Oh!
Starting point is 00:06:09 He believed the only possible solution is that they belonged to sailors in the 1500s. They appeared to be keys to a seaman's chest. But who did the chest belong to? And what was contained inside? It's got to be a better way to word that. Can we mix up the language a little bit? I'm sorry, what's wrong with saying that these are semen's booty? No, you didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:06:31 That's worse than the first one. I don't see what's wrong with talking about little semen and chests on a podcast, but Christ alive. These questions, however, only scratched the surface too, because there was an even bigger problem looming over the keys. No one from Europe had mapped Australia until the 1600s. These keys were too old. Charles thought he may have physical proof that would rewrite the history books. But things didn't add up.
Starting point is 00:06:58 The keys were in pretty good condition, but in order to be found that deep, it would have to be there a long time. So he consulted a local historian on the matter. After months of persuasive letters, he finally got to talk with them. But they were completely dismissive of the discovery. The keys were dropped in the pit after it had already been excavated. There's no mystery here. Thanks very much for wasting my time. But Superintendent Latrobe wasn't about to give up on a case, no matter what. Who cares what some local historian expert thinks?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Besides, how could someone have tossed the keys in such a way that they became embedded in the wall of the pit? This discovery came to be known as the Guilong Keys, and it was several years before Charles made any headway. to be known as the Guilong Keys, and it was several years before Charles made any headway. Eventually, he got the Royal Society of Victoria to print some pamphlets about it in the 1870s. Interest started trickling in, and real scientists started investigating. Thankfully, two such nerds, Edmund Gill and P.F. Alsup, studied the soil where the keys were found and made a monumental discovery. One that would make them take off their glasses, hands trembling, muttering to themselves, Mother of God. They estimated the age of the soil to be 2,300 to 2,800 years old.
Starting point is 00:08:18 If they're right and the keys have been there all this time, then we have some serious questions on our hands. That would place these 250 years before even keys were invented. What is going on here? This is a weird story. And I'm kind of waiting for a moment to chime in where I feel like I kind of have a grasp on what's happening. The guy finds the keys, and they're really old. The further this story goes, it's just getting more and more confusing.
Starting point is 00:08:47 This guy found keys? Older than keys? Older than keys. Do you know where I got that fact, Troy? www.historyofkeys.com forward slash keys hyphen history forward slash history of keys. That's my second favorite website just after g timeline.com which we we often frequent so what exactly is going on here as much as i would love uh a boat full of cryptids holding keys to have discovered australia uh 10 000 years ago what we're most likely looking at here is a technology
Starting point is 00:09:20 of an unknown advanced civilization that discovered keys long before keys were invented. They can't be that advanced if they still use keys. That seems a little bizarre that they don't use, I don't know, some cool... What do you want? Like handprint scanner machines that open up sci-fi doors. It feels a little weird for like aliens to come from another planet in these incredible crafts and still be like oh shit i left my keys in the in that hole in australia i can't can't
Starting point is 00:09:51 start the damn ufo without the keys imagine dropping your keys and leaving them on another planet how pissed would you be when you get back to zonk tar 5 oh my god you left your keys on on zonktar 3 furious a hundred million light years away this sucks as well because um finding keys and and not knowing what they lead to is like one of the shittiest things that can happen in the world because you don't want to throw out the key in case you find the thing it opens but you never know what the thing is that it opens, so you just have loose keys. Maybe this is how it works, though. Sometimes technology becomes too smart. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Like the way nowadays you've got, like, people unlock their cars with their phone, their house with their phone. So suddenly someone steals your phone, they got your car and your house. So maybe it comes full circle and aliens are like, keys are actually pretty smart because if someone finds my keys, they don't know what they're for.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah, that's a pretty good point. I guess. Sadly, the truth is we don't know where these things came from and we never will. The Gilon keys and all the original sketches of them have been lost to time. Even the sketches? It's like someone was trying to cover this thing up. The reason, Rory, I'm telling you this story
Starting point is 00:11:10 is because the Gilon Keys are just one example of what archaeologists call out-of-place artifacts, aka oop arts, or op arts. It's definitely not oop arts. Things that, well, that's how it's spelled that sounds like a breakfast treat like pop tarts sounds like you had a stroke halfway through saying pop tarts things that show up in places they shouldn't there have been a lot throughout history and some are simple like viking coins showing up in places that vikings never went to
Starting point is 00:11:41 right right but some are mad and we have to take a closer look at them. Because, you know, finding some keys in a part of Australia before keys were invented. Yeah, that's pretty wild if you are an archaeologist or a historian. I'm looking forward to seeing some of these other cases where we find like a crystal skull on the top of an American flagpole. How would it get up there? How would it get up there? That's the mystery, my friend. In June 1936, a married couple called Max and Emma Hahn were out on a stroll in London, Texas, when they noticed a rock with some wood protruding from it.
Starting point is 00:12:19 They were curious and had little else to do, so they took it home to look at it a little more closely. They kept the hunk of rock for ten years before their son Max Jr. came across it and decided to see what was inside. He chipped away at the rock with hammers and chisels until the boulder finally broke apart. In a twist that no one would have predicted, inside the rock was another hammer. What? The couple were amazed and turned their discovery over to a team of archaeologists.
Starting point is 00:12:58 They discovered the rock surrounding the hammer was from the Ordovician period more than 400 million years ago and inside that hammer a rock we discovered thor's hammer this is but why would you keep a weird rock for 10 years and do nothing with it you had molnier in your house for 10 years and no one lifted it up. Maybe they just kept this thing in like a dusty, damp old garage. So they just thought it was 400 million years old when it was just 10 years old. Yeah. This thing looks like shit. So to be clear, humans weren't around 400 million years ago. Dinosaurs didn't even exist 400 million years ago they wouldn't arrive for another 170 million years and they were famously anti-hammer so you might be thinking even if the rock's old that doesn't necessarily mean the hammer is old too it's a good point nope when
Starting point is 00:13:56 analyzing the hammer they found it was even older by the rock don't tee me up by 100 million years. Son of a bitch. The wooden handle was so old, it was transforming into coal. The head was more than 96% iron. The archaeologists knew that nature couldn't achieve purity like this. It needed technology. Couldn't the hammer have been made
Starting point is 00:14:22 using these prehistoric materials? So even though parts of it were millions of years old, I mean. The scientists are like, get him out of here. Get him out of here. I don't want to hear this facts and logic. Tie him down, hammer him. I guess you could. Sorry, I don't want to be popping holes in the story this early on.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I am on board. I'm excited. What's the chances that you have a 500 million year old piece of metal inside a 400 million year old boulder? But somehow the hammer is only like 50 years old or something. So the only beings
Starting point is 00:14:58 that didn't live in the sea 500 million years ago were primitive insects. Way too small and weak to use a hammer never mind make a hammer so who or what made this tool but if that one doesn't blow your mind roy wait until you see this in 1998 an electrical engineer called john j williams found a rock with a three-point electrical plug sticking out of it this became became known as the Williams Enigma Lith.
Starting point is 00:15:26 A combo of enigma and monolith. What the hell? That is just... Ladies and gentlemen, it's just a rock with a plug in the side of it. Imagine if you could plug a rock into a wall. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:42 That's what we're looking at here. Please tell me someone plugged it in. A geologist dated the rock to be 100,000 years old. What's the likelihood that some kind of 100,000 year old intergalactic demigod
Starting point is 00:15:58 uses the f***ing USA plug adapter? Yeah, this is bizarre. They worked out the prongs are metal and have a weak magnetic charge. But when they tried to determine what the plug itself was made of, it couldn't determine it. It wasn't wood, plastic,
Starting point is 00:16:14 rubber, or metal. It's no kind of recognizable material. Piss off, it isn't. Who? Tell me who said that! Tell me the institution that looked at an american plug moving on and said we have we have no idea what this is oh for the record it's not it's not just a regular plug guys there's a rock with three prongs that sure look a lot like a plug coming out of it they also
Starting point is 00:16:40 x-rayed the stone and revealed that there is something opaque inside it. Oh, I do have the guy's name. John Williams, the electrical engineer. He, John Williams? He believes it's evidence of either extinct advanced humans or aliens. All right. But I don't know why, even if if it was someone would need to charge a rock that doesn't really answer that question either ancient keys sure extraterrestrial hammer sure
Starting point is 00:17:11 a rock with a plug coming out its ass well you said the keys weren't advanced enough for you i've just served you up some technology that we don't even have. Electric rocks. But the keys could do something. We don't even know what this does. This could be a free energy machine. You plug it into a socket and it generates enough energy to run a planet for five years. Did they plug it into anything?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Nah. Not sure. Too scared, probably. I know I would be. John, who discovered it, is very keen to have the object further investigated by scientists, but he's had very little interest. Now, that could have something to do with the conditions he set for the research. He insists that he, one, must be present for all analysis,
Starting point is 00:17:59 two, the rock remains unharmed, and three, that he doesn't have to pay for the research. I mean, those are kind of fair, actually. I thought it was going to be a little more outlandish. It seems a little unfair, though, because I feel that to really get to the bottom of this, we need to crack this puppy open. You've got to harm the rock. Yeah, you'll have to smash it in two.
Starting point is 00:18:20 But one of the most famous out-of-place artifacts was found in 1901. Divers exploring an ancient Roman shipwreck came across a mechanical device half buried in sand. It had intricate insides like a clock, and though it was badly eroded, it seemed incredibly modern and sophisticated. They managed to get it to land, and while it took decades for anyone to take them seriously, it's now known as the Antikythera Mechanism. I'm going to give you, Roy, a sneak peek of what this thing would have looked like
Starting point is 00:18:52 restored to its former glory in ancient times. Wow. So we kind of flew through a bunch of stuff there at the start. This was found on a boat? Yeah, they were diving on an ancient Roman shipwreck.reck right so we're talking like a couple thousand years ago this thing is complex this looks like um you know when you have those wrist watches that show you the inside mechanisms of how it works it kind of does it looks like the mechanics of a clock lots of wheels lots of dials the mechanics of a clock. Lots of wheels,
Starting point is 00:19:24 lots of dials, little knobs. But they're all broken up and sealed in planes of glass. So you can kind of see it in three dimensions. It's really, really strange. I don't necessarily know what this thing would be used for. There's kind of enough going on that it could be
Starting point is 00:19:40 kind of anything. It looks like something a rich white person would have on their desk at work that just moves like perpetually in motion. More than 100 years on from its discovery, a lot has been revealed about this thing. There are hidden inscriptions all over it and people's initial hunch of it being a clock would have been very cool, but this was so much more. It turns out this is a kind of ancient personal portable computer of sorts that can chart the movements of the sun, moon, and planets.
Starting point is 00:20:12 It could predict both lunar and solar eclipses and even signal the next Olympic Games. Wow. Rory, did ancient Greeks 3,000 years ago have all the technology and know-how to create this device? You've got to stop asking me such wild questions. Or did they have a little help from the guys upstairs? And I'm not talking about God or angels. I just found out about this five seconds ago. So it seems irresponsible at most to make me answer a question like that.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Why were they even so obsessed with the sky? All right, now I'm thinking you didn't even want me to answer. to make me answer a question like that why were they even so obsessed with the sky all right now i'm thinking you didn't even want me to answer did they have visitors that bestowed them with futuristic technology could it even have been an attempt to make peace between worlds sounds like whatever i would have even said you had your what do you think of that okay so now i have to respond to that question did an extraterrestrial race have now I have to respond to that question. Did an extraterrestrial race have a cyber clock made of gold that's sunk to the bottom of the sea? Yep.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Maybe. I don't know. I'll take it. I didn't think I was going to get that, to be honest. So that's a great input. Thank you for that. I'm going to keep moving along. No, really.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I mean, I don't know i feel like i've been given just enough information you're feeding me the facts that are gonna win me over and maybe i'm not seeing another side to this uh this case are there any are there any naysayers involved in this discovery because i mean that's not even a picture that you show me that's a drawing that's not a drawing that's a photograph no way that's a is that a photograph that's not even a picture that you showed me. That's a drawing. That's not a drawing. That's a photograph. No way. Is that a photograph? That's a photograph of the reconstruction of the pieces. This is a real thing we're looking at.
Starting point is 00:21:50 But as in, that's not what they actually found. No, they found all the pieces kind of busted up. Right, right. How did they know that's what it looked like then? Just like put it back together. It's just like, I don't know. I don't know. If like an Ikea table fell apart. You'd be like, all right, A goes to B, B goes to C.
Starting point is 00:22:11 It's C, I don't know. It seems kind of... Well, it doesn't matter what order the pieces go in. It's clearly a solid gold complex computing device from 3,000 years ago. What do you want me to do here? You want me to wrap it up in a dell computer piece of plastic and put a power cable in the back where's the monitor where's
Starting point is 00:22:33 the rgb keyboard where's the gamer leds it's a photo it's not a drawing okay okay apologies you said it was a reconstruction so i assumed it was uh it was digital but yeah i mean it looks pretty cool this is like pulling teeth man these three thousand years ago people were wiping their ass with their hand they hadn't invented as much as toilet paper yet you mean to tell me this is just some normal stuff kicking about? You said it was found on a boat. Yeah, a 3,000-year-old boat. So people hadn't invented toilet paper yet, but they'd invented boats to cross the ocean? Well, sure, priorities.
Starting point is 00:23:14 You've got to find a place to wipe. Well, let me ask you this. Something that seems weird about it is why haven't they found any early versions of this thing, right? Anything leading up to this. Prototypes. Like post-apocalyptic people in the future, they're going to be raking through layers of iPhone 15s all the way down to iPod shuffles and nanos.
Starting point is 00:23:37 But that wasn't the case here. It just seems like out of nowhere, they knocked it out of the park with this ancient computer. Surely they didn't nail something this delicate and complex in the first try. That was a question? What do you think? I don't know if it's the heat in this room. Normally, we say things.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I say something. And then you say something as a counter thought or argument to that. I said, I finished talking. You just stared at me. I have no idea what it, maybe it is the heat. Like, I feel like a laptop that's like, like melting and is just the computing is, is overrun. Uh, yeah. I mean, that is the case.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I mean, unless it was extraterrestrial and then all the prototypes would be on another planet. But it is interesting, you know, to draw up some similarities. We had a case where we were investigating time travelers, people who had been captured as out of place in time throughout history. in time throughout history and one of the discoveries that we mentioned was i believe a tomb that was discovered where the person who was buried in the tomb i don't know if you remember this they had a ring on their finger and the ring was like a little wristwatch yeah i'm pretty sure it was like a rolex or something it was so deep it was so detailed that it had like the hands of the clock carved into it so bizarre but um it's a very similar kind of thing to what we're seeing today which is like artifacts from another time existing in the wrong place you know this is it this is why they're
Starting point is 00:25:19 called out of place artifacts they're not saying they're paranormal or extraterrestrial or anything that's what i'm saying uh they're just saying this it doesn't really add up where why are they here this one's a little weirder though because i guess you know keys are keys we have those a hammer and a rock can be old but still we have hammers but an ancient alien time lord clock is a little more bizarre. I've never seen a clock that looks like that before. It definitely upends a little bit of the story of what we thought those people were capable of. But I have just one last incredible story of ancient discovery for you. A scientific expedition through China in 1938 uncovered 10,000-year-old discs coated in
Starting point is 00:26:06 thick dust. They were nine inches across and had grooves like a vinyl record. Right off the bat, if you found 10,000-year-old vinyls in the desert, what kind of sounds are trapped on those things? You have me at
Starting point is 00:26:22 discs, brother. You should have started with the discs. Are we talking about tiny little ancient alien ufos here i think we're talking about ancient alien vinyl records so they're of music very thin like i mean they're relatively thin nine inches across and with grooved patterns on them please tell me someone tried to play it with a record player. A Soviet magazine reported that if you place the stones on a special turntable, they produced a rhythmic humming. Wow. Does that work with everything?
Starting point is 00:26:55 Like, can you play a tree? A tree log on a record player? Like anything that has rings? I don't know how records work. Yeah, you could i mean you could probably make some kind of noise short answer like yeah it'll produce some kind of i guess the way the vinyl players work it'll probably create some kind of energy um so i could i could play like an old man i could like set him down and play the wrinkles on his skin i guess the
Starting point is 00:27:21 only thing is uh vinyl grooves are very fine as you know so even uh i think the the way it works is like the deeper and wider a groove is let me get this right i think the deeper it is the louder the note is and the wider it is maybe the uh lower the frequency so if you have like a really if you're if it was like a recording of a violin it's going to be lots of um really really narrow shallow right grooves whereas a recording of a bass guitar or a i don't know a bomb going off or something would be loads of deep grooves a dent in your your vinyl isn't it weird that technology has improved and we have now just mp mp3s and digital files and that seems weirdly less technologically impressive than being able to play a disc make audio from a disc a physical disc yeah you know digital files it's just oh yeah copy that
Starting point is 00:28:20 send that whatever but it's like hey you know this frisbee plays music that sounds that sounds wild yeah it almost seems cooler because the magic is when you is carving the music into the disc really yeah you'd be able to hold music that's pretty cool and you can kind of carve it into anything by the way i'm pretty sure i've seen um people make vinyls out of like wax and like i don't know cheese and stuff and like and it will play it just doesn't sound good i want some crackers and beethoven for dinner that would be delicious we should we should release uh this paranormal life on vinyl that'll be cool yeah wow like a big box set an enormous box set 200 discs it's like the size of a 20 inch dominoes pizza it's enormous as every
Starting point is 00:29:07 episode yeah it's not not a lot of people know that like uh it's kind of a dying art i suppose because not that many people work with vinyl anymore making it um but whenever you're making music to put it on vinyl like you have to kind of there's only a limited amount of music a vinyl can hold right physically so if you have a really long song or really long album you got to either cut down the length of the songs or you got to get rid of bass because bass takes up too much space on the disc crazy how that works but i'm very interested to think what is this uh rhythmic humming that they like you know as you like to say is this activating a f**king thulu sleeper cell underneath the ocean yeah like you're f**king awakening godzilla but the lead scientist on the project at this time had a different idea than just trying
Starting point is 00:29:59 to play these on a turntable looking at the spiral grooves up close on these discs, he realized it wasn't a simple groove like on a vinyl. It was a sequence of tiny hieroglyphs. He managed to decode them, revealing an unbelievable story. They told that spaceships from a distant world had crashed into the mountains in China. They had been flown by a race of beings called the Dropa, and here is a translated portion of the symbols. The Dropas came down from the clouds in their aircraft. The men, women, and children of the neighboring peoples hid in the caves. When at last they understood the sign language of the Dropas, they realized that the newcomers had peaceful intentions.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Another part described regret that the crafts had crashed in such a remote place where rebuilding their technology was impossible. They would never get back to their home planet. How did he get all of this from these discs? He cracked a whole
Starting point is 00:31:01 alien language? You ever play charades? Yes. You can get across some pretty complex ideas in just a couple of images. And there are long established local legends in this region of small, yellow-faced men who came from the stars long ago. But folklore wasn't taken seriously, and nor were the translations of the Dropa stones. Like a guy who's stupid enough to tell people he's seen a dog wearing Yeezys, the scientist had to self-exile himself to Japan to escape the ridicule. And like the Gilon Keys, the Dropa stones are long gone.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Damn, not even like a print of them or anything? There were suggestions that several museums in China had the stones for a while, but every institution denied it. Allegedly, a few were sent to the USSR for analysis, but those are gone too. I did read about a small museum that displayed a recreation of the discs, but removed it quickly after photos of the exhibit started circulating. So that you don't get mad at me later, I will say that for the record, before anyone looks this up, Wikipedia do say this story is entirely fictional, but it is on Wikipedia. So that at least stands for something, right? 99% of the stories we talk about in this podcast
Starting point is 00:32:17 are quote unquote fictional, according to Wikipedia. Those MIB bastards. But part of the problem is here, it's very hard to know what's proof of an ancient advanced civilization or aliens. And at what point were ancient people just smarter than we give them credit for? So, I mean, this is the problem with these artifacts is we're seeing some today that are just old and out of place. We're seeing others that are beyond any technology that we have. I mean, these disks, for example,
Starting point is 00:32:51 we couldn't even really get, if they were real, we don't even really know what they were. At one point, they're a record. The next, they're a slab detailing the history of an ancient alien civilization. It's all kind of like muddied a little bit you know this is the problem though i mean we know this from investigating roswell and investigating other ufo cases um that that would reveal the extraterrestrial truth that's out there the government doesn't really like those things to get out and roswell was covered up instantaneously um so we're not really on a bare and level playing field here of normal information just getting out there on wikipedia so it leaves us in a tricky spot rory because we are trying to as on all episodes of this paranormal life trying to decide
Starting point is 00:33:39 for the record for history whether a story is true or false, but kind of the rug's getting pulled out from under us. The key's gone. The disc's gone. The hammer, I think it's still around, actually, but the hammer's not a lot to go on on its own, actually. No. That was the one I was kind of hoping would be gone. You're like, I actually have a whole lot of pictures of the
Starting point is 00:34:06 hammer oh and we got tons of pictures of the stone plug oh jesus christ i forgot about the stone plug rory what are you thinking with all these ones we've gone through stone plug the really which is the piece de la resistance we We have the hammer in the rock. We got the Antikythera mechanism, the ancient computer. You had me at that one. That one was pretty impressive. I didn't even get to the ancient grenade. What?
Starting point is 00:34:37 It's not really a grenade, but it is cool. They found this. This is a battery, a 2,000-year year old battery they found in Iraq. There's something about this case is so funny because it feels like every single one of these objects could have been an episode in their own right. But bringing them all into one is just kind of like this whirlwind of adventures that like as soon as you're like all right so there's this rock and it's got a plug in it pretty cool huh i'm like okay so does the rock is like our next object is in the bottom of the sea an ancient clock from another world's like i don't believe for a second for a second that you would have let me talk about the plug rock for 45 minutes there's not a world don't pretend there's a world where that happened i had to move on quickly because you were smelling blood.
Starting point is 00:35:28 You smelled the weakness in the story and you were about to bite. I had to keep moving. At best, the stone rock is a bonus episode. Maybe we could have got away with it there where we, I don't know, brought in our own rocks from the outside world and talked about them on the podcast. Trying to mash them into a plug socket. I appreciate that what we've got is quite a wide net here, but there is something that ties them all together.
Starting point is 00:35:49 These are all out of place artifacts. Yeah. Things that appear in the wrong timeline in the wrong place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The problem is though, as you said, is it's at the end of the episode, we need a conclusion. And we have a lot of things to conclude. So it's kind of up to us to decide,
Starting point is 00:36:06 are we doing this one by one? Is this a blanket statement about objects that appear out of time? As far as I see it, if we can find one of these, that's a proof of some paranormal, um, alien visitation or alternate dimension or et cetera, fill in the blank, then we've got a yes on our hands. Okay. Okay. But if none of them meet the criteria, it's a double no. That seems fair. That seems fair. What do you think? Do any of the discussed objects jump out at you as more interesting than the others? It's the clock for me. Yeah. Mostly because we have some sort of physical evidence of it. The others are old stories with very little, I mean, to no photographs or descriptions. Whereas the clock, you know, at least there's something to go by with that thing.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I feel like we're really doing a disservice, by the way, to keep calling it a clock. It's not a clock. No, it's absolutely not. But it's like they call it a mechanism because it's a it's a little computer yeah it's pretty bizarre looking um and it's probably the most researched thing to be fair it's been researched for over 100 years now well over 100 years but even that i don't know i don't know what we would need to um to really prove and cement the fact that this is from some sort of ancient civilization it's true um i think you're right to hone in on that one. You know, with some of these others,
Starting point is 00:37:29 it's very compelling to hear that we've got a 500 million year old hammer, because in that case, if that's true, there's literally no other explanation than aliens, because humans didn't exist. Yeah, you made a good point it was before dinosaurs existed it was before anything other than insects existed right uh basically and i you know i'm not a well-educated man but i don't think mosquitoes were flying around with little hammers before the dinosaurs were around you You know what they say, when you got a hammer, everything looks like a nail. But this was before nails were even invented. So to be honest, the boring potential explanation here that some scientists put forward is that some of these objects, like the hammer, were dated in the 1940s. That's creeping up on 100 years ago from today's
Starting point is 00:38:23 times. Yeah. and their dating techniques weren't 100 accurate they probably weren't even 50 accurate let's be honest so really what we're looking at is it more likely that aliens created a hammer just like the ones we use or that the dating techniques were wrong and a miner just dropped the hammer and it got encrusted in rock that i never even thought about that before even if it was an ancient civilization that had made this hammer why would it look like a hammer why would then millions of years later we make hammers yeah without ever seeing this original prototype of a hammer to be clear it doesn't look like mjolnir it doesn't look that cool it actually looks like a shitty little minecraft
Starting point is 00:39:11 pickaxe okay okay and actually more than one person said it looks pretty much exactly like the hammers that the local miners uh used over the last hundred years in america these are some of the facts that probably would have done me good to hear while we were- Well, I'm telling you now, aren't I? Sometimes I wait till after you said no, and then I come clean. I'm scared now. I feel the need to ask. Is there something you're not telling me about the clock?
Starting point is 00:39:38 The ancient alien clock? Oh, boy. It was a Rolex. It's made out of Legos it's it's uh you can buy it it's a lego project i know the clock's legit the clock checks out and the dating is a much more accurate much more uh you know when you get back to the 500 million years ago it was a big margin of error uh these days they've got the whole like two thousand three thousand year old thing done pretty down pat right right you know i feel bad rory because i have blindsided you with a lot of information so why not let me take the lead on summing up this case i think whenever we
Starting point is 00:40:15 look at all of these we do unfortunately have to discount a couple of the earlier ones including say the hammer based on some scientific issues the keys they don't exist anymore the discs probably a hoax um so what we're really left with is only a couple of things to be honest it's really the mechanism and the rock plug and i almost insist on discounting the rock plug you know and i think it comes back to something we sometimes touch upon in this paranormal life and have to dance around. And it's a lasting question. Did the ancient people have help from the stars or were they just smarter than we think? And I think if we're being honest and if we're being fair to those ancient people, they probably were just smarter than we think.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Yeah. Sure. We discovered their, you know, wooden sandals and brass swords so we think that's all they were capable of but it's not really fair that if we discover an awesome uh computer made out of gold that's from their time it's not really fair for us to go oh those dumb asses couldn't have done it it must be aliens yeah it's we should really start from a place of hey maybe they were able to do this kind of thing it's a little different with the rock plug because i think that that that it just doesn't really make sense you gotta i wish i hadn't brought up the rock plug at this point i feel like the whole episode is gonna be overshadowed
Starting point is 00:41:40 by the rock plug i mean christ the episode title is probably just is is this rock a plug listeners i almost insist that you look up this this rock there's something so funny about thinking about back in the days of cavemen and uh you know a caveman just uh going to visit his friend and he's like hey you coming out to join the hunt and he's like yeah just uh give me give me two minutes i got i gotta finish charging my rock my rock's on about two percent piece of shit doesn't have any battery you have a portable charger my rock is diet my rock's been on low battery for days now why does a rock need power it's so confusing i feel like in some doesn't this look like a... It's the perfect thumbnail for a YouTube 2am clickbait video. Like... This is great.
Starting point is 00:42:31 It kind of sums up this paranormal life in a way, you know. What if there is untold mysteries of the universe out there? Rocks that hold electricity. My God. What a time to be alive, folks. We do have to come down to a decision about this whole episode out of place artifacts are they paranormal or not and like i said i'm going to take the lead here rory and put you out of your damn misery and say i think we don't have enough
Starting point is 00:42:54 evidence i don't think these specific items i brought to the table are paranormal and i think i have to give it a no i think it's going to be a no from me this week as well it was close though you almost had me with that rock i almost went full circle with the rock that it was so weird that i was like this has to be real it's almost genius because no one would even try and trick a scientist and say look what i found because it's so bonkers and now that now that the dust has settled and we've given our double nose oh why why even have a circular plug inside the rock i mean surely you could have perfectly embedded the prongs i'm getting too in the weeds of this thing no i'm right there with you now now it's weird now
Starting point is 00:43:36 that the pressure is off we made the decision i'm actually starting to come around to that rock interesting might have to revisit this next week two-parter wow guys uh i guess i'll have to put a link to this rock in the description of the podcast um for you to see the truly psychic mind-bending qualities of this boulder um i hope you've enjoyed this foray into all things out of place artifacts if you know of any others that are really fascinating that that have kept you up at night thinking about them please let us know at this paranormal life podcast at gmail.com if you can't get enough of this paranormal life though and you could do with what will inevitably be a six-part series into the history of that hammer that's 500 million
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Starting point is 00:44:58 The links are in the description of this podcast. And before I forget, thank you so much to Cmy toman for editing this week's episode and to amy grizzell for researching it um roy how you feeling over there you look like you've melted like uh the wicked witch when she's got water thrown over and all that shit i'm a fried egg it is so hot in this room right now. You feel 400 million years old. Yeah, I feel out of time. I feel like a mummy that's been cooked in my own tomb.
Starting point is 00:45:33 It's just a combination of a very hot room and a very hot, intense story today. Traveling all over the world, looking at artifacts. I feel like Indiana Jones, he's always like, well, he's always sweaty, but in like kind of a sexy way. Oh yeah. And he's always got a couple of always sweaty but in like kind of a sexy way oh yeah you know he's always got a couple buttons undone his shirt and the hair poking on yeah i don't know if i can quite pull that off right i think i look a little bit more like a greasy wall street businessman so i don't know do you think i'm pulling it off yeah no i i'm not in the like i
Starting point is 00:46:02 was kind of putting myself down hoping that you would lift it up and be like, no, you don't look like a... No, you don't look too... What did you say? Greasy? That's a good word for it, actually. No, you don't look like any more greasy than normal, I would say. But that's not... Is that a compliment? Doesn't sound... You know, you're looking like... You know, you've always got a little bit of a weird kind of greasy little greasy, like slimy glow.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Greasy little greasy? No more than usual. This is worrying to me because no one has ever seen Indiana Jones and called him a greasy little man. No, and they wouldn't because he's slick. He's got a beautiful glow. He looks like, you know, he looks like a pregnant woman in the prime of their life you know uh whereas you know it's more of like uh imagine one of the aliens from men in black pretending to be a human and they kind of can't quite hold it together and they
Starting point is 00:46:55 think they're gonna get caught at any second so they're sweating bullets and their greasy little body oh let me try and like sex it up a little bit. It belongs in a museum. So I'm wearing a hat as well, actually. So that's kind of like indie. What was that? It was me trying to do an Indiana Jones impression from the movies. Oh, see, it belongs in a museum. Oh, wow, I never would have got that.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I mean, that was just. It wasn't that bad. It's one of his more. I feel like I could have not even done an accent and you would have been able to tell what it is you see just the the way you look i'm like just you as a person i hate snakes so no no why did it have to be snakes far away i mean this is like this is like you know watching a chihuahua try to drive a speedboat it's just so like so far away from the the mark okay so you're saying if they were to cast, like, another Indiana Jones movie?
Starting point is 00:47:48 It would be, you know, I don't want to say the last person on earth because there are obviously, there's women who, you know, it's hard to play a man if you're a woman. But you will be after everyone, after every man, woman, and child. Well, the joke's on you because I actually auditioned and I got the part. Not of Indy, but his greasy little sidekick, Roy. There's no way. I auditioned for that part and I didn't get it. He walked into the audition room. Sorry, we didn't ask anyone to put on hair and makeup.
Starting point is 00:48:20 No, don't worry, I'm this greasy all the time. I'm here to audition for Indy. You? No, no't worry. I'm this greasy all the time. I'm here to audition for Indy. You? No, no, no. We have got the part for you, my friend. All right. That's enough rock talk. That's enough grease talk.
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