This Paranormal Life - #370 The 'Devil Baby'

Episode Date: June 11, 2024

Back in 1913, local residents STORMED a settlement house in the west-side of Chicago. This angry crowd, filled with priests, politicians and furious locals, were all yelling the same thing as they hammered on the buildings front door - "We want to see the devil baby!"Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Is there really such a thing as déjà vu? If so, where's the proof? Is there really such a thing as déjà vu? If so, where's the proof? All of these questions you can find the answer to on This Paranormal Life! Hello everyone and welcome back to This Paranormal Life, the comedy paranormal podcast where every week myself and my associate Kit Greer Malvena investigate a brand new paranormal tale, case claim or beasts and come to a conclusion at the end of the episode as to whether or not that specific thing is truly paranormal. We end up giving it a yes or we end up giving it a no. Most of the time, yes, it is a no, but

end up giving it a no. Most of the time, yes, it is a no, but maybe we're about to change the tides a little bit today. Ooh, that's an interesting, uh, little setup to today's case. Ooh, that's an interesting setup to today's little case. Okay. I see you're getting a little too bogged down on the deja vu gag I did at the start of the podcast. Huh?

Huh? Uh, well, what are you talking about? You're just kind of duplicating words now, so. I didn't do any sort of thing. I think it sounds like you might be experiencing a little bit of deja vu. All right, well, don't do this because my brain can't actually handle this.

I might have a meltdown if I start thinking that I am experiencing deja vu. Kit, how the hell are you? We're back here in Northern Ireland, and for once it was a beautiful day yesterday. We got to go outside. We got to, you know, as paranormal investigators, we spend a lot of time in caves. In darkness and in shadows, with ghouls and goblins and freaks.

Yeah, you ever noticed a pattern? Places that are paranormal are dark. They ain't sunny. We're talking caves, haunted houses, crypts, coffins, holes. It's great. So anytime we get to go out in the world and do on-site investigations, it's like, Oh, Hey guys, where do you want to go? We've got a haunted toilet.

We've got a sewer system where a man who eats children lives. Disgusting. Does that sound like fun? I don't think so. Or why don't I just put this bag over your head and hit you with a two by four? Yeah, I'll take the last one. Frankly, after seven years of this shit, it's the worst travel agent imaginable. So it is funny, actually.

I mean, you're not telling a joke. That is completely true. Earlier in the week, I literally looked at the weather and I said to my wife, Danielle, I was like, you know how I know it's going to be a good day on Monday because Rory's coming to the studio to record some podcasts. And this always happens that anytime we get together, it's not, it's been terrible weather. Yeah.

And then literally the moment you set foot in this home studio here, it's just like children laughing, just, you know, like in a movie, you know, uh, fire hydrants spraying into this guy, children skipping through it. Yeah. Ice cream trucks, people surfing Hawaiian waves. Every single time. While we're recording dark and dingy podcasts in my basement.

It is hot in here. It is hot in here. I'm going to address it at the start. Okay. Well, we've only started, so. Well, that's worrying. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Cause I'm going to get quite riled up, I'm gonna dress it at the start. Okay, well we've only started so... Well that's worrying. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because I'm gonna get quite riled up, I think, in today's episode.

I mean, it can't be any worse though than, like, not our studio in London, but where we used to record for years before that, my old flat in London in the spare room. Oh my god. That thing was a Finnish sauna. Yeah, there were a few episodes where we looked like we were politicians in the spotlight. Kate and I are like wiping the sweat from our brow trying to string a sentence together. I think there was one episode in particular where we both really felt like we were going crazy. Turns out the carbon monoxide alarm was also going off in the apartment.

That did go off one day. So that might have been more of a chemical thing. But yeah, that was rough. That was really rough. So I think the very earliest kind of podcast clips that you can see on our YouTube, some of them are very sweaty. I don't know why we still uploaded them. They're terrible.

Although I say that we're probably going to look like that at the end of this one. Yeah, it's worrying. If you're doing an episode of a podcast where you're trying to convince people that demons aren't real, it looks mighty suspicious to be sweating that much. You really shouldn't be, because people are gonna think you're a demon

and you are doing a bad job of hiding it. Yeah, because we're sweating like sinners on a Sunday. Whoo, I am starting to sweat a little bit here, but I am in a shirt, so I'm just going to pop a button anytime I feel like I'm getting overwhelmed. Okay, well, let's not get too excited because you already popped one button, as I actually have done strangely too,

and you've only got about three left. So we're going to be completely topless at this rate. It's like first piece of evidence, that's a button. Have you seen this evidence? That's a button, all right. Ad evidence? That's a button, alright. Adbreak, your damn right is another button. There won't be a shirt left by the time we hit the halfway point. I'm just gonna eat my shirt.

I'm gonna be looking like Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park by the time we hit our adbreak. Alright, we just won't, you know, we're capable of being level-headed chill guys, cool guys. Let's just start today's story. Let's get lost in this incredible paranormal thing. Yeah, you know, like wellness podcasts are huge. Welcome to Headspace. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe this is a chance for us to pivot into something

that's a little more relaxing, a little more chill. And we do have listeners write to us and tell us that we help them get to sleep at night, which is, I will say, pretty offensive, but I do appreciate that they associate as I'm getting hot with nice memories. You're melting, your tongue is melting. So just relax, everyone take a breath,

and out. And we're gonna begin today's paranormal story, okay? With a fright. No, no, not with a fright. Don't put a lightning crash in there in the sound effects Let's keep it chill our story today kicks off all the way back in 1913 a pretty cool time global warming really hadn't kicked in yet. So things were icy cold And we're in the west side of Chicago. Ooh

chilly Chicago time a year though. We are in a building known as Hull House. Now Hull House was what was known as a settlement house, which was a building set up to be a safe haven for impoverished immigrants, offering them support, community, and a fighting chance at not only surviving, but thriving in the good old US of A. But I mean, I will say even though it does sound like a nice thing that they got going on here in 1913, unfortunately, the locals at this establishment weren't too keen about the existence of one resident in particular.

Okay, so it was still controversial. That's fine. And from 1913 onwards, hundreds of people would arrive at Hull House, demanding that he show his face. Jesus, who could it be? What kind of guest would be so unwelcomed by the locals? Why were so many of those showing up priests? We're going to find out, right after a quick word from today's sponsors. And a reminder, you can get every episode of This Paranormal Life ad free on Patreon.com

forward slash This Paranormal Life. It was late one September evening in 1913 when a bang at the door was heard at Hull House. 29 year old Jane Addams walked down the hallway, eager to see who would be banging at such a late hour. She swung open the door, and on the doorstep stood three elderly Italian women. Can I help you? Jane asked. The women looked furious. One of them stepped forward and with a stern glare said, We want to see the devil baby.

Jesus. Jane had no idea what they were talking about and tried to brush them off. But the ladies were insistent. They began to describe this thing in full detail. A baby with hoofed feet. You know, like a regular baby, medieval. I get it.

No, I do. You really didn't have to explain it. Red all over. This baby allegedly had hoovd feet, a twitching tail, and crooked teeth. Alright, well you can't miss it. You absolutely can. As if that was the appearance of the devil baby, you would have to explain it. Right. I think they would know if this was the devil baby. It's like, a devil? I don't think we have, it's like hooves, horns. Oh yeah! Oh, DeVille, DeVille baby. Yeah, sorry, this devil baby,

you said it different. These elderly women refused to leave until Jane handed over the devil baby so they could quote, take it to church okay well hope that isn't a euphemism like saying that you're taking a bag of puppies to see mr. waters I hope it isn't like a kind of dark rice a dark that's a button that's another button that's too dark uh yeah as long as one of them wasn't kind of like beating a baseball bat in their hand as they said that you're gonna take it to church because if they're gonna take it to church. Because if they were gonna take it to church,

what the fuck's a baby gonna get out of church? The baby probably already has been to church. I can't imagine that a baby would have been born. Even an unfortunate baby born to a settlement house wouldn't have been christened at this point in time, right? I feel like at this point in time, as soon as you pop out, baby, they're like, get this thing to church as soon as possible.

We need to get holy water on it. They're very religious people. Right, yeah, I don't know how welcoming the priests are when the baby has hooves. Okay, well, sure. You might have to slip some Nike dunks on him to get him through the front door. Jane finally managed to brush off the three women, but imagine her surprise when the next day the knocking started again,

and the crowd was even bigger. Why won't she show us the Devil Baby? Is she working for the Dark Lord? I got here late. What are we angry about? Things got so out of hand that eventually an article even appeared in the Chicago Examiner titled Devil Baby Sought by Thousands. Whoa! Mmm. This Devil Baby is, this is a kind of K-pop level of 21st century fame. Oh yeah.

We have, you know, the same way that fans might camp outside of Justin Bieber's hotel, they are lining up to see the Devil Baby as if it's a supreme box tea drop. Ha ha ha. So how the hell did this all start? Well, somehow a story had begun circling that claimed that one night, a mysterious baby was left outside the doorstep

of Hull House. And when I say baby, I mean microdeaf. This is not a baby. Do not try and burp it, do not try and feed it, and mothers, keep it away from your nipples. Despite its demonic appearance, Jane Addams, being the caring angel that she was, took the baby in, hiding it away from the public's eye. Yeah, this is how babies will get you. This is a kind of evolutionary adaption, apparently. That either babies have evolved to be cute, so that we like them and feel sorry for them and want to help them, or we have kind of our brains have adapted to think that they

are cute. I can't remember what it's called, but all mammals and things have this where we are adapted to think that things with big heads, big eyes and stuff and our little are cute. Right, that's interesting. That's because all kind of mammals look like that. They've all got big noggin, tiny buddies, and big eyes. And it really is some sort of magic spell, isn't it? Because the reality of it is just a little thing that shit all over itself, crying, keeping you up late at night. But then you look at it and it's a little face and you're just like, you're so goddamn cute.

I just wanna kiss you. Yeah, you're kind of looking at it, you're like, right. It's like, you know, do I really take this thing in? 18 years of hard labor, uh, paying for feeding, clothing, burping, doesn't sound great. But on the other hand, no, the widow cheeks and the widow eyes. Right. Yeah.

You're tossing up the options and then they hand you the worst drawing you've ever seen and your heart just swells. Your heart just swells because they tried. So I think what we're really circling here is are they paranormal creatures that have cast some sort of curse or spell on you? Children, yeah. It's hard to say. I mean, I feel like the devil baby a little less going for it. Right, right.

You're like, oh, look at his little cheeks. They're hot. They are hot as hell. Ow! Oh, Christ. Unfortunately, as the angry crowds grew larger Oh look at his little cheeks. They're hot. They are hot as hell. Ow. Oh Christ Unfortunately as the angry crowds grew larger every day So did the backstory of the demon baby Stories and gossip were passed around the town until the demon baby didn't have just one origin story But a dozen some said that it was the child of a poor religious Italian girl who married an atheist. Her husband was such a blasphemous sinner that one day he tore a picture of the Virgin Mary

off of the bedroom wall and yelled, I would rather literally have the devil himself in this house than that picture on the wall. Wow. When their child was born, instead of crying and behaving like a normal baby, this creature stood up on its cloven hooves and chased his father around the kitchen table. Yeah, he was like, yo, yo daddy, drop a pin. Yo daddy, square up. You know, this is believable, Rory, because I didn't know this until a number of years ago,

but up until actually extremely recently, probably hasn't actually changed that much. Atheists were one of the least trusted groups in America. I think it was in like a Michael Moore movie or something, or some shit. They were like, when you poll Americans, they were like, they trust atheists less than terrorists. Because I think people are like, they trust atheists less than terrorists. Because I think people are like, at least terrorists believe in something. Right.

If anything, I trust atheists quite a lot, because they don't believe there is any punishment after death and they still ain't killing people. They're still just like reading a book on the train. Which is like, all right, so I guess they're pretty chill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I like doing nice things for people, not necessarily because I'm like, yeah, that'll get me in for sure. Yeah, that'll whip that out on judgment day.

That'll score me a couple points. Yeah. You do these nice things because you just want to, because it makes you feel good. And isn't that a nice way of looking at the world? Because I don't know if you see this a lot. It's very popular today to say, hey, everything sucks,

but there's still some goodness in the world. Or like, hey, everything's on fire, but there's still some light left in this f***ed up world. You're getting a little dark. And I'm like, I don't know if it's that bad. I really don't. I think if you go back a hundred years, the fact that if you just didn't go to church every Sunday,

it was like, that guy is a serial killer. I don't know if that shows we had, because people have this idea of back in the day, we had a lot more trust in our community and people around us. Yeah, you didn't have to lock your doors at night. Yeah. It doesn't really sound like it.

It doesn't really sound like that was always the case. If anything, like me and you, you still live there. I used to live in London, a city of nine million people, like New York City. There's other much bigger cities around the case. If anything, like me and you, you still live there. I used to live in London, a city of nine million people like New York City. There's other much bigger cities around the world. Yeah. I don't know, these places are mostly fine and safe. And people, despite being surrounded by people they know nothing about get on for the most part pretty well. You know, I like to, just to kind of like reinforce how safe things are and let people know, I'll just go around different neighborhoods and kind of check everyone's doors. Just to make sure they're open. Well, you know...

Because to let them know they don't have to lock them, because this is a safe place. But what do you mean to make sure they're open? Surely you want to make sure they're locked, because then... No, no, no, open them up. You want... I'm bored like banging on the door saying like, Open them up! It's safe out here! You don't have to lock! And if they don't, you know, get them, sometimes I'll like wrap my fist in a newspaper

and kind of boom! Just box the window open and then I can open it myself. Sometimes that's the easiest way. You broke it. You broke it. They break in. You broke the lock. Half the time they're not even in and that's why they didn't answer the door. So. But what I'm showing them is that you can open the door. It's safe.

There's nothing out here to be afraid of. And sometimes I don't think that shows them that at all. I think they come home and they, the burglar alarms going, there's broken glass everywhere. I think that's actually really traumatic. It's not traumatic at all. I'm trying to show them. I'm assuming you don't take anything from the house either. No, I absolutely don't take anything.

No, it's some, sometimes, well, shit, sure. Sometimes, you know, they start to panic because they think something's going wrong that someone has broken into the house. So I'll have to like just really quickly like cut the line to the telephone so that things don't get out of control. And I can like just assure them that everything that I'm trying to show them how safe it is. Property. You're actually a single-handler. You're a menace. No, I feel like I'm not describing this right. All right, let me start over

because I feel like I didn't do a good job. There's absolutely no way you could rephrase what you said to sound good, but I'll give you one shot at it. So I open strangers houses. Yeah, we know that. To show them, hey, you did a good job. And if they're locked, I'll say, open it up. And sometimes- So why did you lower your voice so that it was a little threatening just then? Sometimes I like to, just so they stay calm and keep the whole thing light and playful,

I'll open the letter box and I'll go something like little pig little pig Why are you doing that voice? Voice that's not your voice. It's the It's just a funny thing Why is Elvis at the front door? Can we reference the fact that I don't know if we've told the story in the podcast because it's not our story But it's too funny to not tell. Oh, it's a great story.

That we have a friend of the show. Chris, not going to give his last name in case he doesn't want me to tell it, but sorry, Chris, if you're still listening to TPL, um, too good, too good. We were catching up with them one time. We're like, what's happened with you lately? And he was like, well, someone broke into my house while I was in it. And we were like, Oh shit, that's happened with you lately? And he was like, well, someone broke into my house while I was in it. And we were like, oh shit, that's terrifying. And he was like, yeah, I could hear them

f***ing up the downstairs, rummaging around. I'm on the top floor. They start coming up the stairs. I am about to be in a physical altercation potentially with this person. I have to think fast. He grabs a bat as people do in the movies, which is pretty cool that it was there already. I wouldn't have one of those. I'd have a think fast. He grabs a bat, as people do in the movies, which is pretty cool. It was there already.

I wouldn't have one of those. I'd have a mic stand. Like the little media loser I am. You're swinging an XLR cable like a mace, ready to take them out. I would, I think I would hide. I would hide, but Chris, in this moment of just thinking fast, did the best thing.

You couldn't even write it. He goes to the top of the stairs, in this moment of just thinking fast, did the best thing. You couldn't even write it. He goes to the top of the stairs and just instant kicks in, didn't think about it whatsoever. He just screams down the stairs, fee, bye, fo, fum, let's have some fun. And the burglar left And the burglar left. The burglar left.

He just hears them leaving. Right, because the burglar's like I broke into the house of the Joker. I broke into f***ing Jigsaw's house. Things are about to get wild if I go up that staircase. Yeah, I think if you could ideally add in some Yeah. Afterwards. There's a little tip if you could ideally, like, add in some... Yeah! Yeah. Afterwards.

There's a little tip if you ever feel like someone's... If someone's ever breaking into your house, you can whip out the Fee-Five-Foe-Fum. Just like I whip out the little pigs. It's just a tactic, you know? It works. Not to scare... I'm not scaring people. In case I'm being unclear, I'm not scaring people. I think we do have to remove that from the show.

We're gonna move on right here. As I said, the Devil Baby was born. It chased its father around the table with its hooves. This is a great description. In the story, it claims the baby cursed at his father and laughed at him like a bitter old man. That's pretty cool, yeah. All right. I mean, we've heard of being a mummy's boy

and not a daddy's boy, but this is taking the biscuit. Now it's pretty cool. Yeah. All right. I mean we've heard of being a mummy's boy and not a daddy's boy But this is taking the biscuit now. It's next level Can I just gently and feel free to delete this from the episode? Can I just gently don't make me pop a button? I swear to God I'm too down and I can't do a third. Can I just gently draw attention to the fact We haven't seen this f***ing baby yet Jane Addams recalls another popular theory That she'd hurt. Not long ago, the father of six daughters had said before the birth of a seventh child

that he would rather have the devil in the house than another girl. I'm just saying, I don't need to see the devil baby, but I will by the end of episode, at least need a baby or toddler. I will accept a toddler. That's at least like cross-eyed or something. It has something... Crooked teeth. Yeah, that made people in 1913 go, whoa. I'm not going to say we don't have a photo or evidence today.

I just want to know, what's the exchange rate of photographic evidence to origin stories? To hearsay? Yeah. Yeah. Cause I got about 21 origin stories if you're interested in those. All kind of contradicting each other and muddying the water really. They don't do any good to each other. Well Rory, you will remember that of course I'm a big believer in the golden pyramid of truth, which has again, it always, it always takes me off guard to remember that it's actually less about the golden pyramid itself, but also it's more

about the pillars that uphold the golden, I think there's three pillars that uphold the golden pyramid of truth. One of which is- Which is f***ed because a pyramid famously has four corners. Which one of, which one of, one of which is- I mean, three points to a triangle, but not a pyramid. Which one of, yeah, it's. Yeah, it's a balancing act. One of which is rumor.

Rumor. Hearsay. Hearsay. The other is... A man's word. A man's word, that's it. Yes. That's the three pillars.

So you actually... You've got a legend and stories in there as well, I guess. I think legend and rumor. Yeah, I said rumor. Quite a few, the call and period of truth. There's a couple supporting beams, right? It's under construction for sure. The scaffolding is Vibes can I finish my story? I'm just saying you actually might have the the ingredients for the golden pyramid of truth

Which does sometimes? Provide enough to be given a double. Yes at the end of the podcast Well, I don't know if it's happened, but it is certainly physically possible. As I said, this man said rather than a seventh daughter, I would rather have the devil himself. When the baby was born, it was the devil. Yeah. You jinxed it. Um, the seventh daughter, I mean, that is interesting.

We've already talked about that before. Uh, seventh daughter, seventh sons, historically, globally, quite a mysterious thing, right? Like for a paranormal number, for example, in, globally, quite a mysterious thing. Right. Like for a paranormal number, for example, in, uh, in our local culture here in the north of Ireland, I've mentioned before, there's a concept of the cure that some people have a magical healing ability. People still believe in this to this very day. There's guys in the Irish countryside who are like accountants who also on the

side have the cure. And if you are like going blind, you'll like go see them and try to get cured. Although usually the cure is specific to one ailment. Um, but historically you would be born with the cure if you were the seventh son of a seventh son. Oh, the problem is, uh is families aren't that big anymore. So there's practically no one comes from a family with that many children. Yeah. I think I mentioned on the podcast before, but this is only extra relevant because my parents called me the disease when I was growing

up. That's great. There's no way they did that. And they called my brother the cure, which is super because he was only the second son. But I guess it was like... It was more referring to the problems you brought to the household. He was the answer to... He kind of amended everything that they were worried about, and everything that they hated. Then number two came around. So you're bad at school, he's good at school.

He's good at school. Cancels each other out. Yeah. But then other stuff as well. So like, I'm really good at burning things, and he can't start a fire to save his life. Unless it's in like a camp situation where he actually needs to like create a fire to kind of cook food or keep people warm. You threw a cat out of your bedroom window. He, I remember he bandaged up the cat. He saved a bunch of cats. He started actually a foundation for animals, which was pretty

cool. But that's why we got a yin and yang thing going, because he shelters animals, and I like to then sneak in at night and set them free again. Because I don't believe that they should be caged up like that. But they want to be. No, how do you know? How do you know? Touche.

And yeah, they all go to the back of the cage when I open it, because they're scared of me, because yeah, I wrapped my fist in newspaper and punched through a window to get into the place. To finish off this story about the child being born and turning out to be the devil yeah you keep interrupting me which I don't appreciate because I don't have a lot of buttons left to pop. Clearly. In this version when the baby was born the demon baby snatched a cigar from his father's lips and began to smoke.

Which is actually pretty baller. Alright, he likes hot stuff? What does that have to do with being the devil baby? What does it have to do with that? It is cool though. That is pretty cool. Now you would assume that everyone who was turning up to see this creature would have been pretty insane.

I mean showing up to any place and demanding to see a normal baby would been pretty insane. I mean, showing up to any place and demanding to see a normal baby would be pretty weird. But in an interview, Jane Addams said, quote, "'If I gave you the names of some of the professional people, including clergymen who have asked about this baby, you simply would not believe me.'" Wow, interesting. So it's definitely making the rounds as a

topic of worry in this community. It's not just locals kind of storming by hearing legends. There are priests turning up, demanding to see it. This is obviously spreading to a dangerous level. Now to this day Jane Addams claims that the entire story is nonsense. There never was a devil baby. But it turns out that this wasn't the first time paranormal shit had gone down at Hull House. And maybe Jane- She would say that!

Ah, right. She would say that. Can you let me finish a single sentence in this story? For God's sakes, we're going into an ad, brother. I need to tee it up. Yeah, but you do have to admit, you do have to admit ad break and there's no baby is a big revelation. No, man. It's a big revelation.

Maybe we'll see the picture of a baby after the ad break. You expect me to say nothing? You expect me to say nothing? Okay, alright. One reason why rumors of the devil baby spread so quickly might be because Hull House has a long history with the paranormal. They wish this baby was the only thing that they had to worry about. And we are going to find out all about that extra paranormal activity and maybe see a

picture of this baby right after a quick break. Kaila, it's Sinez. I'm Kaila, it's Sinez and I have been training a global community of women since 2009. I've created a brand new podcast, Sweat Daily, to help you level up your life and reach your health and wellbeing goals. From fitness tips to food that fuels you, meditation to motivation, we've got you covered. Sweat Daily, the happiest, healthiest and most confident version of you awaits. Available on Apple Podcasts and monetize their podcasts everywhere. Acast.com. All right, welcome.

Show me the baby. Give me the photo. Bring it up. Well, by the time you've got a little bit more story to get through and then sure, maybe if we have time. I'm going to Google it. I'm going to Google Devil, baby. Don't do that.

Okay. Kit, I think what you really want to know and what you really want to hear about more than you know evidence or pictures or anything is how all this started right I think I'm actually oh I'm full up no from this delicious meal oh that these 16 appetizers have been really good. When's the main course coming though? We'll see, we heard the... Is the chef done?

We heard the origin stories of the baby. We haven't heard the origin stories of Hull House, which is very important, very crucial really. So that's great. So I guess we'll be wrapping up not too long from now because this is a two-parter presumably, because this is so wildly lopsided. There's no way we'd have time to fit in all the kind

of evidence and actual happening. Hull House Mansion was built in 1856 for a wealthy Chicago gentleman named Charles J. Hull. More breadsticks, great. The mansion, shut the fuck up. I'm gonna have to pop a button. It's so hot in here. My nipples are gonna be out in any second now.

If that's not a reason enough to go watch this on YouTube, I don't know what is. The mansion was intended to be a home for him, his wife, and his three kids. But after four years of living in it, only Charles and his daughter were still alive. Christ. Oh, does that sound relevant enough for you?

Not really. It's just disturbing. His wife died of a mysterious illness, and I have no idea what happened to the other two kids. But in 1860, he left the house, where it remained abandoned for the rest of his life. Flash forward to 1889 and in walks 29 year old Jane Adams, opening the doors of Hull House, the settlers residence for the first time. Now Jane really was a legend, she helped build this amazing residence where immigrants could get settled, find community, but unfortunately it seems that she was unaware of the building's dark

history. But she wouldn't be for long. Because soon after moving into the building, Jane herself began to experience strange paranormal activity. One night, Jane was lying asleep in bed when she heard what sounded like people whispering in her room. Worried that someone had sneaked in, she threw off the covers and bolted upright. But the room was empty. Thinking that it must have been a dream, she lay back down to return to sleep. But as her head craned upwards towards the ceiling, her eyes widened as she witnessed a pale white woman floating above her bed. Many people believe this could be the ghost of Charles J. Hull's wife who passed away

in the very same mansion. Right. The ghost was like, how did I die? They just said it was mysterious illness. That's not really good enough. Also my kids, they just said they had no idea. Yeah, there may have been a reason why the kids died. I don't know, I couldn't find it online.

Well I hope there was a reason. Maybe it's not documented. But I thought this was cool because, you know, Jane Addams, she is someone who herself has repeatedly denied the existence of the devil baby. But this is someone who herself has repeatedly denied the existence of the devil baby. But this is someone who has had paranormal experiences in the past. Sure. They're not close-minded enough to rule out the entire world of the paranormal.

She's saying, look, I saw this. I heard whispers. I've seen ghosts myself. Yeah. Ghosts, poltergeists, banshees, all fine. But I draw the line at at a deviled baby. Yeah, that might... don't say deviled baby like it's an egg. It's a devil baby. Treat it with some respect.

I'll treat it with respect when I see the damn thing. Eventually, Jane closed off the room and just used it for storage. What's interesting is when Jane originally moved into the building, there was always a bucket of water outside of the door of that bedroom. She just assumed that there must have been a leak in the ceiling. I don't think that's water, Jane. But it turns out that past residents knew there was something wrong with this room, and they believed that whatever this spirit was, it could not pass over water. Oh, okay.

Have you heard of that one before? I think I've heard of such a thing, but I don't really know why. This is quite interesting because it shows that not only is Jane seeing stuff in that room, the people who were in there before saw things in that room and I think she used it as a guest room for a while, but yeah, I'm just seeing in my notes here The sightings were happening so frequently. she actually had to move out of that bedroom, initially tried using it as a guest room, but the guests who stayed there were reporting the exact same thing, the whispering, the voices, the woman, so eventually she had to just close off the entire

thing. Yeah, rude to, I understand the logic, but rude to say, I can't use this room because it's so haunted. I'll stick mom and dad in there when they come to visit. Yeah, I don't know, maybe you think you've seen it. Maybe you're like spiritually tuned or something to the frequency of this ghost. You could at least try one or two people.

Like I'll put them in. They said they don't believe in ghosts. I'll stick them in the ghost room. Yeah, Dad's a heavy sleeper. He'll be fine. He'll be fine. I probably would be fine in there. I sleep like a rock. Right. I sleep like a devil baby. I am out. Look, I'll admit, Kit, the devil baby is a very strange legend to examine on this podcast.

So it's a legend? Well, it's a legend, it's a story, it's a case, it's a lot of things. You told me we're getting a photograph. I never said, I said we might get a photograph. You, you said Peter Parker, give me photos of that devil baby. Look, the problem with this story is essentially the story itself is created by people who want to see it. It's not even created by people who want to see it. It's not even created by people who claim they've seen it themselves.

Yes. You know, every testimony and every story from the devil baby comes from people who are demanding that they see it for the first time. For sure. For sure. You know, and I think that's the problem. Usually we have the witnesses in the case. We don't, we don't even have witnesses today. We just have people who have heard the story

and want to see this thing for itself. The pyramid of truth today is rather lopsided because it is mostly hearsay and rumor. Mostly. There's no man's word. There's an elderly Italian woman's word. Okay. Which I say carries even more weight than a man's.

Sure. But one thing I thought was interesting is long-time listeners to the show will notice similarities between this and one of our older cases, the Jersey Devil. Now if you remember the Jersey Devil, yes he does look like kind of a weird goat with wings and a curly tail, not a baby. But if you remember his origin story, maybe he's not so different after all. According to the legends, one day a woman named Mother Leeds

realized that she was pregnant with her 13th child. After discovering she was pregnant for this 13th time, she cursed the child in frustration, declaring the child would be the devil. Well, she gave birth on a stormy night with her friends gathered around her, and when that 13th child emerged, it transformed into a creature with hooves, a goat's head, bat wings, and a forked tail.

Before anyone could stop it or take it to church." Quote unquote. It flew up the chimney and disappeared into the woods. Yeah. I didn't really remember any of that. It came out as a baby. It was birthed. I'll be quite honest.

Um, I will say 13th child, not surprised it turned out to be a winged demon because mama mia, 13 pregnancies, by pregnancy 13, all the rules have gone out the window. You're smoking, you're drinking, you're doing whatever you want. Because the first baby is when everyone obeys all the rules. They're extra cautious. They're like, oh, I can't eat blue cheese

because it's got bacteria in it and my immune system is compromised for being pregnant. They're pushing a speaker to the belly to like play Beethoven. Classical music. Oh, cause that makes the baby smarter when the baby comes out. Yeah.

Pregnancy 13, you're driving NASCAR. You are doing anything. You are skydiving, you are bungee jumping, you're on the back of a motorbike. You've seen it all, done it all, didn't make a difference. Whenever you have a cigarette, you also eat one because you think the baby might want to dart in the belly.

I'm blasting for two. I'm blasting for two at the moment. So, you know, you might take a little farm and then the thing comes out with wings. Right. Yeah. That's kind of, I think, the worst case scenario. Because usually it's like, oh, I'll just maybe not do things directly by the baby books. Right.

Do things a little bit off. You're like, I know I'm not really allowed caffeine, but I'll have a cup of tea. Yeah, that's pretty easy. I'll have a cup of tea once a day. That's all right. You shouldn't mix things up by saying, like, I might not worship God today. I'm going to worship the devil. Don't mix it up that much. Like don't swing that far direction. Yeah.

You know, I might not have orange juice for breakfast, I might have blood. Right. I might just drink a vial of blood and then say some curses. Yeah. You basically turned your, your tummy into a witch's cauldron.

Yeah. You're mixing up a little. Eating eye of mute for brunch. So, hey, relevant. This is something that we've seen before in paranormal cases. A baby and through some reasoning, it transforms into a devil or a creature or a cryptid after delivery.

Hey, this is one of the oldest paranormal theories in the book. The concept of a child from another world. And it obviously goes back to the concept of whether you believe in heaven or not, or other more ancient folklore, babies supposedly come from somewhere else, right? They come from some sort of religious nether world, or they come from a kind of spiritual other world, and they're being drawn forth. And so the idea being that something different could come forth from that world. I mean, also the idea of changel, uh, things like that, like children

that come out different. I was kind of, I mean, my own experience with this is I was kind of amused. I kind of thought being a paranormal investigator, I thought about this when my own daughter was born because we kind of laughed a lot. Whenever she was born, she came out looking like neither of us at all. Uh, and came out with like big, you know, spiky red hair. And we were like, what the hell? No one's got red hair in our families. Well, she very famously came out with like big, you know, spiky red hair. And we were like, what the hell? No one's got red hair in our families.

Well, she very famously came out looking like Woody Harrelson. Yeah. So, you know, not like her mother or father really. And during the whole Woody Harrelson meme time, that was the number one joke people made in the comments was like, like, wow, what a way to reveal who the real father is, right? But, you know, it's funny, but it does hint at a, like a timeless truth of even to this day, there's kind of this unknown about where children come from. Yeah, bit of a mystery.

And, you know, and the fathers sometimes do wonder is a child really theirs? and the fathers sometimes do wonder, is a child really theirs? And a hundred odd years ago, they would wonder, was a child actually the Dark Lord's? Right. The paternity tests were a bit more vague back in the early 1900s. Yeah. The pregnancy test was more of a tarot card reading. And the father is the Prince of Cups. It's like, what the f**k does that mean? Mike? Dave works in a pub. Is that, is he the Prince of Cups. It's like, what the f*** does that mean? Mike? Dave works at a pub. Is that, is he the Prince of Cups? Well, Ken, I'm glad you brought up the fact

that you yourself are a parent, because I'm kind of ill-equipped to investigate this case as, you know, as someone who has never had to look out for a child. As a home intruder, yeah. I'm not the person to speak on this case. You are. You're the one that has raised the child. I see, I know a baby's behind from the devil's behind, hopefully.

Right, so what we're gonna do right now is, we're gonna do, you know, cause at the end of the podcast, sometimes we do a, here's some tips on how to deal with this creature, how to trap this creature or capture it. Yeah. Because we're dealing with a devil baby,

I'm gonna give you a little bit of a parenting quiz. Ooh. So I'm gonna ask you some parenting questions, which you should know because you have already raised a child and you'll be able to figure out whether or not you'd be able to survive if your child was the devil baby. Wow.

Okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I would love to know that. I mean, because Cora has been a great child, so we're not really challenging at all. So, but I never know what if our next baby is the devil baby. Right, you need to know this shit. Am I cut out for the job?

Okay, here is the parenting quiz. Are you ready to have a child? First question, the baby is crying late at night. Do you go and check on it or do you let it sleep? OK. How long has it been crying for? Seemingly eternity. OK.

OK, I guess. Is that relevant? Yeah, well, you know, I see I was kind of wondering, you might say a couple of minutes, because one little cry a lot, that could just be a bad dream. But if you're saying, see, I thought you were gonna say 10 minutes or something, but eternity, okay. It's really a long time.

It kind of stretches back to beyond your wildest memories. Yeah, it's actually less of a cry and more of a kind of a Mongolian throat singing. Whoa. Yeah. I'm gonna have to check on the thing, I think. That was the wrong answer. What? Do not check on this baby ever.

It will cry, it will scream. It'll even sometimes imitate the voice of your loved ones to try and get you to come in there. So it'll be like speaking as your wife, like, okay, can you come in here for a minute? But you're looking at your wife. So don't go check on the baby. What? Okay. All right question two, I guess.

That's one wrong. All right, f*** me I guess. Jesus. Is Cora all right? Like should we... is she okay with you? She's just fine. You just got one right. That was the easiest one on the quiz. No, I didn't get it right. I got it wrong. Yikes. Yeah, sorry. That was question... that was test number two. See if you could remember what your score was for the first question. Okay, question number two. While teething, the baby playfully bites your arm. The bite was strong enough that it drew blood. Oh, whoa. The baby looks happy that it has tasted milk of the flesh. Yes, well that's a weird way to word it. Do you, A, throw the baby out the window?

B, feed it more blood to win its favor or see take it to church I think take it to church. I think that seems very straightforward I think I think I need a second opinion on what has just happened Right and as I say these people have in many cases seen this stuff before. Taking to church was correct. Okay. I would have also gone for kind of a AC combination where you throw the baby out the window into a church. Yeah.

Kind of like, Kobe! Right, to try and like kind of pacify it a little bit, throw it in the back of a convertible and just zoom off straight towards the church. So hey, there you go. You got that one right at least. Question number three. The baby just said its first word, crime. War.

Datred. Do you, A, take it to church or B, throw the baby out the window? It's really the same question again. And last time you said you also would have accepted either answer. That's true. Take it to church I mean, but they didn't but if we're going in sequential order here, and I already did to get to church over the blood thing This is a clearly didn't work to some extent or it's another flare-up. It's another flare-up It's another flare-up. So I guess take it to church again's another flare-up, so I guess Take It To Church again? I mean, at this point, I'd better get it to the f***ing altar and stole it to my house.

Take It To Church is correct. Once again, I would have accepted a sort of A-B combo. Yeah, alright. So really, either one of those would have been correct. So that is another correct answer. Okay. Okay, that was a weird quiz. Did you write Milk of the Flesh?

That seems like... I did, yeah. Is that weird you still hung up on that one? Because I think babies drink milk, and what is blood but milk of the Flesh? That seems like... I did, yeah. Is that weird you still hung up on that one? Because I think babies drink milk and what is blood, but Milk of the Flesh. It's not Milk of the Flesh. Because actually flesh produces milk. Women produce milk from breasts.

Our final question. It's all on the line. Okay, let's go. I can ace it. I'm actually doing pretty well. So let's go. This question decides whether or not I take custody of Cora, Kit's child.

Because frankly- Social services are listening? If he gets this wrong, I really don't think that he is qualified to have a baby. Okay. Yeah, well, they're not going to let a guy with that many buttons undone in his shirt take custody of a baby. Unless you're going skin to skin with that thing. They're going to turn up and I'll be like, I'll take it from here, guys.

I got plenty of milk at the flashback at my place. They're like, give us the child. Give us the child. And button your shirt, please. Alright, the final question on today's quiz. Okay. It all hangs on this. The baby's refusing to sleep and says it will only release the hostages if you...

Alright, well... If you ca... I forgot I wrote that. It's a pretty complex scenario, I would say, for a toddler. The baby's refusing to sleep and says it will only release the hostages if you read it a bedtime story. Do you read it? A. Dante's Inferno, the 14th century poem depicting a man's descent into the nine circles of hell. B. The Necronomicon, commonly known as the Book of the Dead.

Or C. Mary Had a Little Lamb. While it's distracted, throw the baby out the window and straight to a church. So I'm probably going to go C. Mary Had a Little Lamb? Is that the right answer? Well, It was a bit of a run-on There was a bit of a run-on option Mary had a little lamb and throw it out a window into church Well, I read the demon baby Mary had a little lamb or the book of the dead Oh, I think I'll pick Mary had a little lamb. You think that's the right answer Yeah, I see because it also ended in taking it to church

I get which has to date been the only thing that is the right answer to anything. C is the correct answer. Between you and me though, you could skip the bedtime story and just go straight to church. It didn't seem like it was that relevant. Honestly, I would have also accepted throw the baby out the window and take it to church. So congratulations, Kit. You did get the first one wrong, but you took it back in the second half. You managed to get enough questions right that proved to me, I don't just think you're qualified You did get the first one wrong, but you took it back in the second half. You managed to get enough questions right that proved to me, I don't just think you're qualified

as a father of a regular baby, I think you could handle a demon baby. You know what is the worrying bit? Cora's never been to church. Whoa. Never been christened. That is a little worrying. Because all of these babies we talked about today, they started pretty normal.

And it took something to kind of set them off. So I might go downstairs after this and just kind of sing a couple hymns in her vicinity. Maybe just recite some passages. You don't know any hymns. I know some hymns, brother. Take me to church! I'll worship like a dog! That's hosier. What? Take me to church!

It's not a hymn, it's a pop song. He's going to a religious institute, like Jesus did. If anything, I don't think that song is what you think it is. Let me say that much. Alright, how about this one then? He's got a smile that it seems to me reminds me of childhood memories. What do you think a him is? That's Guns N' Roses, Sweet Child of Mine.

Sweet Child of Mine, they're talking about sweet little baby Jesus, aren't they? No, they're not. You also know what you're doing because you changed the lyrics to, He's got a smile from she's got a smile. They're talking about Jesus. They're not. Now again, when I see his face, It doesn't work.

It takes me to that stable in Bethlehem. The worrying thing is there definitely is like a fun youth pastor version of that, which is exactly what you're trying to do. Oh, sweet child of mine, of thine. Sweet child divine. Yeah, yeah, my daughter would try to strangle you if she heard this, but not because she's a devil baby. Where do we go? Where do we go now?

That's Moses once he freed the slaves and he's kind of asking the Lord in the desert. You told me we had a photo. You promised me a photo. This is so f**ked. I don't know if, like, the bar is on the floor on this paranormal life for evidence. I don't know if we've ever just openly lied at the ad break when we come back from an ad. There's gonna be a photo waiting for you when we get there. There is no photo. There's no photo of the Devil Baby. I know. I know. It's the end of the ad, there's gonna be a photo waiting for you when we get there. There is no photo! There's no photo of the devil, baby!

I know! I know! It's the end of the episode and there's no photo! My shirt is wide open right now. I honestly... Yeah, well, it's your own fault. I'm so stressed in my life. It's your own fault!

I've never been so stressed. I didn't know I was gonna be attacked this way. What do you want? A f***ing picture? This is... it's so crazy to me how Rory attacks me. No, you just said... Take a pic! Take a pic, brother! I've googled devil baby. Take a... There you go. There's a whole bunch of evidence. Yeah, look at that one. It's a baby with horns. The headline says remote-controlled devil baby in prank for horror film.

You wanted a picture, didn't you? And you got one. You see, Kit, I actually think highly enough of you and our audience, but I don't just throw a picture out there if I don't think it's believable, if I don't think it's relevant to the case. I'd rather show nothing at all. Load of horse crap.

Than show you a picture of this nonsense. The way I get attacked in my episodes when there is photos. Because you show me dog shit. That's like saying, why are you so angry when I serve you a shit sandwich? Weren't you hungry? No, I wasn't hungry. I wasn't hungry for nonsense. Okay? I wasn't hungry. So, I didn't give you anything at all. All right.

Good restaurant. Good restaurant. I serve nothing at all. Would you rather eat nothing at all or give something that gives you food poisoning? All right. Oh, I think I'll take nothing at all, please, sir. With a glass of nothing, but on the side. All right.

And that's what I'm giving you today. Insane, insane approach to try to prove a paranormal case. Let's just get to the conclusions, man. I think we're at the end of today's story. I think once we went to an improvised quiz, I pretty much sealed my fate. Signed your death warrant. All right.

But what are our thoughts today on the story of the devil baby? Kit, I'm going to throw it to you first because I'm sure you got a lot of questions to ask. Not really. Actually, I think you've really spoken for yourself and clearly have been out of things to say for quite some time. This is a case in which nothing has happened. True. You're expecting that one. Never let them know your nice move. There was a single rumor that was, was blown out.

No, a single rumor, the existence of a devil baby that was blown out of proportion due to potentially a building's reputation for being haunted in an age before the internet or even really newspapers, apparently the spread like wildfire. a building's reputation for being haunted in an age before the internet or even really newspapers apparently, the spread like wildfire. There was no evidence, no one saw it. This is a textbook hysteria. Yeah, we actually probably would have been closer to a WS

if we just investigated the white woman that Jane saw above her bed. Yeah, at least someone saw that. She saw it. And we're hearing that from the witness. The devil, baby. The only people we're hearing about it from are people who want to see it.

They haven't even seen it. Yeah. So, yeah. Not our strongest case in terms of evidence or testimonies from witnesses, I would say. See, this type of case is dangerous because you present something like this, this gives me a lot of license to post nonsense

in the coming weeks. No, it shouldn't. It really does because I didn't, because I've been getting attacked so much recently for cases I put a lot of effort into. I'm not seeing anything goes. Anything goes apparently. Yeah, it's worrying when I spend weeks

uncovering actual declassified FBI documents about UFO sightings that took place in the 1970s. And then we do an episode on the Devil Baby, and I'm assuming this is going to be a crowd favourite for years. That's right. The Devil Baby's hopefully going up there with Corny the Irish Ghost. And the ex-monkey. The ex-monkey, yeah.

Look, let's just get to our conclusions. I think we both agree there's not enough today to say that this thing is real, so it's going to be a double no today for The Devil Baby. But I thought it was a great case. I thought it was cool and unique enough, taking place at an interesting time in American history. Some fascinating stories there. Unfortunately, without a picture or even a sketch of this thing, we're really never gonna say that it's real.

But hey, who knows? Maybe there's been more devil babies throughout history and we can investigate one in the 1990s and we might be able to get our hands on a photograph. And I think another exciting thing happened which was I proved that I am a good parent. Yeah. So he actually did for babies, regular babies and devil babies. Read it and weep, Danielle.

Uh, I'm, I'm now separated from my wife. So we are kind of in the, in the middle of a bit of a custody battle, I will say for Cora and, uh, the courts, the courts aren't looking favorably on a lot of stuff I've said on this podcast, but you've just tossed me just a little, I'm running out of a metaphor, a nice little slow ball that I knocked out of the park. Oh yeah. Because I think as soon as they play this in court, Cora is going to be all mine.

All yours, not just weekends like you got now. So I think I should actually use the rest of this time to disparage my ex-wife. Uh, on the podcast. Because I think, Hey court, so just while you're listening, this isn't going to shine you in a favorable light. One time we went to the play park and my wife, uh, forgot to put sun cream on Cora. Ooh.

Now she didn't get burned because we were actually there for a sensible amount of time and she was wearing proper protective clothing, clothing, but a bit of a slip-up, wouldn't you say? And, you know, when she did the quiz for question number two, she would have given the child more milk of the flesh. Yeah. You know, big mistake there. Yeah. So everyone knows the correct answer was take it to church. Her ability to navigate the paranormal is a bit...

I think it leaves a lot to be desired. So I think you'll be... I think I am a strong candidate for father of the child. This will be the only parental dispute court case that ends with you leaving in handcuffs. You're like, that didn't go the way I thought it was going to. Yeah, I hit stop on the recorder. I arrest my case. They shove my head onto a table.

You're like, now my wife has full custody of the kid because I'm going to jail. How's that fair? Thank you so much, everyone, for listening to this week's episode of this paranormal life. If you're enjoying the show, why not head over to YouTube or check us out on socials. We're always posting fun clips from the podcast there on Twitter, on Instagram, on TikTok. Wherever you are, we are there also. And of course, if you love the show, maybe you're caught up Maybe you're a new listener and you want to get some extra content or just show your support every month for myself kit and the

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They won't sign up for it. If that does sound interesting to you, but hey, you don't want to pull the trigger just yet. You want to have a little sample of what goes on in those episodes. Why not listen to this clip from one of our recent after parties where Kit tells a little story about flying to London to record this paranormal life. Well, I am flying BA as you know Rory, which is pretty luxurious. So they're coming around with a little water bottle. They're coming around with a little snack. Man to my left,

woman to my right, both elderly ish. And haven't spoken word to other than hi, how's it going? And guy comes round, what's his accent? Maybe Essex or something. I'm not gonna do an impersonation for once, you're welcome. And he's like, bottle of water, bottle of water, yep, everyone's taking the bottle of water. And then he's going down the aisle, go in flapjack or biscuit.

Flapjack and people going flapjack, thank you. Biscuit, thank you. Flapjack or biscuit. And they come to our aisle and they start with the person closest to the window so he turns attention to the lady to my right and says flapjack or biscuit and she goes bisky and i'm like i've got my i've got my headphones on i'm kind of trying not to laugh i'm like'm like, damn, that's crazy. She must like really not speak English.

Like the fact that that was the closest she got to the word, repeating the word biscuit. Right. Like it was like pretty foreign to her. So I was like, okay, cool. And he hands the biscuit, because I guess that's closer than the word flapjack to what she said. And then she, like me and her, we both get the biscuit, because I guess that's closer than the word flapjack to what she said. And then she, me and her, we both get the biscuit and then just in silence, we're both kind of opening the biscuits to eat them. And then she opens her packet, turns out she's American

and she goes, Oh, biscuit. I thought he said Bishky. I was literally starting laughing. I was like, oh, what's Bishky? Is that something else? And she's like, no. I love that she, she heard flapjack or Bishky, didn't know what it was. And Bishky. She rolled the dice.

She was like, f**k it, let's go Bishky. It doesn't sound British. She's like, oh, local delicacy. It still cracks me up. It only happened a few hours ago. Just heard it going, oh, biscuit. I thought he said bisky. What the f*** is a bisky? She's like, I don't know.

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shout out right here at the end of every episode. Crazy. That's what we're going to do right now. Thank you to William Airy. I've been trying to show William the airy of his ways because he heard this thing of like, you know, you can kind of jazz up a gentleman's outfit by doing maybe unbuttoning a little bit, getting a little bit more skin out. Yeah, he unbuttoned his trousers.

Oh, no, no, no. And I was like, William, dude. Yeah, wrong half. Wrong half. You don't have kids, do you? Because they're gonna be taking away, keep this up. I'll also argue that unbuttoning a shirt does not class up a guy's outfit.

No, I said jazz up. Well, it will do that. It definitely will. Especially if you have a golden chain and a lot of chest hair. Did you know, fun aside, did you know that kind of older generations here in at least in Northern Ireland, I don't know about other bits of the UK, they talk about dressing up as getting jizzed up. No they don't. They do. Moving on. Okay yeah we are moving on. Thank you to Shonks. The legend of Shonks. Wasn't that a video game that we invented in an old episode I'm pretty sure? Or Shonks the Knight? I think there was a knight called Shonks. Yeah there was definitely

a knight called Shonks. It's a cool name let Let me tell you, if you're rocking Shonks, no last name by the way, like Shakira, you know, or Beyonce, just one name, Shonks. Yeah, not a lot of people know that, you know, the same way Donald Trump, you know his real family name is Trumpf? What? Yeah, that's true. And they changed it to Trump because it's kind of more American sounding. More hard.

Yeah, Tom Hanks. You should change it to F***er. Am I right, guys? All right, all right, let's keep it. No, I'm getting angry now and Shonks is by my side. Yeah, Tom Hanks' real name is Tom Shonks. Hahaha. So thank you Shonks for being a loyal knight of the paranormal commune.

Thank you also to Kyle White. Kyle White, our shining knight. Another knight. Except it's not really he like saves you from danger, it's more of a just like, you know, he comes through with a six pack of beer when the house party is running dry. Oh, that's pretty cool. It's just a good, it is a good, you know, in that moment you are a knight in shining armor.

Yeah, you're saving the party, the life of the party. Even though he's not, yeah, he's not wearing shining armor, there's like stained sweats, stained t-shirt. Arguably not a knight then. I guess you're a knight spelled with the N-I-T. You're leaving out that K. Thank you, also to Jbubble. Jbubble is kind of our resident DJ here at the commune.

You know, because we like to kick back, we like to have a good time. Occasionally, every other full moon, You know because we like to kick back. We like to have a good time occasionally every other Full moon we open up the banquet hall to kind of the general population And we get D. Just one through two of course yeah Well not that yeah Not the later ones, but we get DJ bubble to come in and like spin some tracks

Lay it down so everyone can have a good time and hang out and party. Now, of course, the music does have to be relevant to me and you, our glorious leaders, and kind of the thriving of the commune. So it is kind of, it's borderline propaganda. It's like, what could J-Bubble in the mix, our glorious leaders, fight for the commune. Very patriotic. Yeah, it's hard to dance to. The only hymn we allow is Sweet Child of Mine. You know, we keep it pretty straight. We do. Thank you also to Live N. Live N is live N. Let me tell you, they are just, they live every day to the max.

Woo! Wake up in the morning, grab a hot coffee, waka waka waka, pour it in their face. Don't even drink it. Just like, because the burn will give you so much more adrenaline. day to the max. Wake up in the morning, grab a hot coffee, wicka wicka wicka, pour it in their face. Don't even drink it, just like, because the burn will give you so much more adrenaline than actually drinking the thing. Walk downstairs with their shoelaces tied together juggling knives. That's living. Liv died. Liv died this morning. We passed away, sadly, so...

Eww, yikes. Liv died this morning. But passed away, sadly, so. Eww, yikes. Liv is actually not living. What did they do? What happened? They hit juggling knives, obviously. Right, the first thing they did? Yeah. Oh shit, okay.

Liv, I'm sorry, I mean, you really did live life to the fullest, so, I mean, good job. You know, you need 80 years to live life? Liv fullest so I mean good job you know you need 80 years to live life Liv did it in 2017 that's pretty young to go if it's any consolation though like not to be grim but kind of looking at Liv's schedule for the rest of the day if the knives hadn't got her lunchtime her lunch break activity was to drive a speedboat into a brick wall. How could she have possibly survived that? Right, yeah. We'll never have to ask her that question. No. So Liv, I hope you're doing okay wherever you are. Thank you

for supporting the show. And finally, this week, thank you to James Reese. James Reese? Well, in the UK we have a celebrity comedian called Reese James. So I don't know if this is, I don't know if this is a kind of secret name, a code name. Is Reese James secretly in the commune? Well his second name is R-E-E-S. So I think it's Reese. Reese? Reese? Oh. Is it a different thing? Oh, my liege. This is from the Reese's Pieces Empire

I'm so sorry our peanut butter prince has arrived. Oh Thank you, Mr. Reese. We appreciate your support Peanut butter is one of my favorite snacks to be fair. I know you are very fond of a peanut butter sandwich Yeah, I've kind of a bit like a some kind of war veteran I've kind of served my time of eating probably three a day for several years Oh, yeah, you ever have a peanut butter and banana sandwich for now? Yeah, sure. That shit is great. You haven't tried that get on it or just sorry We're just listing peanut snacks now. I think the top tier peanut snack

I don't have that much time because that was our last shout out Vietnamese sweet peanut sauce. And I know you agree with me. So thank you, James, for listening to this week's episode of the podcast. Here's another one. No, no, we don't have time. Sometimes just chopped up apple dipped in peanut butter. Great. As I said, you can get your own shout out at the end of the podcast.

Monkey nuts? Just unroasted peanuts? Not peanuts then, just a different type of nut. They are peanuts, they're not roasted. Kits obviously needs lunch, I think, so we're gonna take a little break here. I'm thinking nuts. I know you're thinking nuts. Nut adjacent. You're not very clear on what you're gonna have for dinner. Thank you everyone for listening. We love you head on over to patreon check out those great rewards. We'll see you next week. Bye. Bye He's nuts