This Paranormal Life - #374 “You’re Being Impersonated by the Other Voice” - The Gary Sudbrink Calls

Episode Date: July 8, 2024

In February 1993, Air Force Captain Gary Sudbrink received a series of mysterious and disturbing phone calls from an unknown number. The strange voice asked question after question, repeating the same bizarre warning - "YOU'RE BEING IMPERSONATED BY THE OTHER VOICE". Was this just an innocent prank call? Or was this something much more PARANORMAL?Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Do witches really fly around on broomsticks? We all know monsters exist. My question is, what do they taste like? All of these questions you can find the answer to on this Paranormal Life! Hello everyone and welcome back to this Paranormal Life, the comedy paranormal podcast where every week we investigate a brand new paranormal tale, claim, case, or beast, and come to a conclusion as to whether or not it truly is paranormal. As always, I am joined by one of the most dangerous hunters in the paranormal game, Kit Greer Mulvenna. If you are one of the biggest hunters,

then you can maybe help me with question number two, is not only capturing but eating a monster. Yeah well it's a pretty salient question actually because we've touched on it before I am a monster hunter, a dangerous one too, but I am vegan so I think you've mentioned before one of the only monsters that I actually could get a nibble of would be the vegetable man of West Virginia. Yeah most of our paranormal adventures involve Kit kind of tracking the creature, managing to capture it, photographing it, taking all the scientific measurements. And then right when he's about to set it free, I step in and go, I'll take it from here, but

sharpening a set of kitchen knives in my hands. Opening a disposable barbecue. Because the thing is, right, once you've taken all the pictures and like given your big thumbs up for the newspapers, like you capture King Kong, what's there left to do except eat the guy? No, no, I would say kind of taxonomically file it away in a museum for preservation for future generations. Right, how about I just file it away in my air fryer for about 25 minutes? They can keep the bones. I don't eat the bones. They can keep the bones.

You can keep... What about in a museum? Like the dinosaurs, you can rebuild him. I assume they ate the T-Rex before they put the bones in the museum. I think it's fine. I think just if you're going to do this though, you know, make sure when you take the pictures before you eat the thing, you didn't have your like thumb on the lens. Right. Cause you don't want to, you don't wanna eat it

and be like, all right, and now we have all the photos to prove we captured it. And then you realize that, yeah, it was a little blurry and you can't actually see that you captured the thing in the first place. You're like sitting around the campfire, oh, I could need another bite. Yeah, let's see how these the campfire. Oh, I could need another bite. Oh yeah. Let's see how these photos turned out.

Oh, Oh, but it made me think, uh, you know, if I had to serve up a paranormal cryptid at a restaurant, what would I serve? And, uh, I did a little bit of brainstorming and I settled with a chupacababra. My God. You pushed back this recording by 45 minutes saying that your script was almost done. I had to think of what I wanted to call it.

That's what you were thinking of? Yeah, I had to think of my fictional restaurant where we serve cryptids. What would you eat? You'd eat a chupacababra with a side of skinwalker wrench. That's not what we're here to talk about today, which monsters would be the most delicious. We are here to investigate a brand new paranormal tale and unfortunately today's case does not involve any cryptids at all. In fact it doesn't even involve ghosts, ghouls, spirits, zombies, witches, anything that

we would usually cover on this podcast. Rory, we already did an episode on the 2016 election. We can't go back. This is a paranormal mystery, one of the strangest paranormal mysteries I have ever come across. And you guys are in for a treat because this week we are investigating Gary Sudbrink, the Air Force captain who began receiving mysterious paranormal phone calls. But from who? We're about to find out right after a word from today's sponsors. And a reminder you can get every episode of this podcast ad free on patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life. Our story today takes place not long ago in 1993.

27 year old Gary Sudbury was an Air Force captain who'd been working at a medical pharmacy in San Antonio, Texas. In February of that very same year, he decided to go on an unannounced surprise trip to visit his family in Long Island, New York. So without telling anyone, he booked his ticket and headed to the airport. Even though he never told anyone about his trip, it seemed that someone or something already knew. While waiting for his flight at the airport,

he was approached by a strange man with a clipboard. Excuse me, sir. Can I ask you a few questions today? Uh, sure. What is your final destination? New York. What is your name? It's Gary Sudden. Spell it for me, letter by letter.

This is a bit of a weird interaction, right? Yeah. Usually when someone tries to get you to spell your own name to them, that's a sign that you should probably leave. Especially if it's a stranger. Yeah. I mean, nothing against charity, that's great. But if you live in a major city where you know that you can't stop to talk to everybody

with a clipboard. It's true. Or else you'd never get nothing done. Yeah, sometimes people just use clipboards to make themselves look more important. And you're like, well, usually I wouldn't stop, but this guy's got a clipboard. So he clearly has to document something important.

And he's frowning, so I better stop. Yeah, as a paranormal investigator, I don't appreciate any situation where a member of the public is trying to retract my personal information, all right? I don't know if retract is a member of the public is trying to retract my personal information Alright, I don't know if retract is the word you're looking for extract extract Retract whatever it is. I don't appreciate it All right, I went to a Starbucks the other day just to order a little coffee and all of a sudden they're like, oh, oh, yeah

And by the way, what's your name? What's your name for the coffee? And Rory started reading out his proton mail email address, which, of course, is cryptographically secure. And they said, no, your government name. I was absolutely you're not getting that. You left your ice frappe on red. I left it on the desk. You ran away. I said, oh, yeah, no, I can give you my name. So my first name is Mindja.

My first name. Are you writing that down? You didn't write it down on the cup there. My first name is Mindja. Yeah first name, are you writing that down? You didn't write it down on the cup there. My first name is Mindja. They're like, yeah, we got it, we got it. All right. My second name is Business. Next customer please. Mr. Business.

That's what they call me. You know what? I pull whenever they ask me to fill out the clipboard, they're like, hey, we're collecting people's names and email addresses for this great petition. It's a really fantastic cause. I go, uh-huh, uh-huh, that's really great. And they go, if you wouldn't, oh, for sure.

Oh, I'll put down my name and email address. They hand me the clipboard. And then when I hand it back to them, they're like, what did you, I've CIA-style black-markered out, I've redacted all of the names they've gotten that day. I'm like, yeah, you can't go wrong collecting people's data. They're like, all right, well, at least let us have your name. Okay, so first name's Mindja.

You're like, all right, nevermind. And the second name's Bizness. My email address is mindja at yoownbusiness.co. Biz. Mindja at yoown business.co. My chat, your own.biz. It's my email address. Unfortunately at the Starbucks later, they did say they have an iced caramel latte for Mr. Business.

And I had kind of forgotten what I'd said and I didn't end up getting my coffee in the end. Yeah. And they were doing like a prize draw for people who kind of gave their email address that day too and the guy in the queue after you won instead of you. Yeah, he got a Tesla. But Mr. Business went home empty handed, unfortunately. These questions from the strange man in the airport continued, all while Gary studied

his appearance, trying to figure out who this man was. He was well dressed and well groomed, so he assumed it was a salesman or maybe a surveyor. Eventually Gary's patience wore thin, so he excused himself and left for his boarding gate. But once he was on the flight, things only got weirder. Before the plane could even take off, another man sat beside him and immediately started asking more personal questions. Now I'm gonna get, see I'm not even a military man, but if I'm Gary, an Air Force captain I believe, then the slightest hint of suspicion, I'm checking my six.

I'm checking my nine. I'm checking my three. I'm checking all the hours of the day. Check the clock, Do a 360. Just do a quick 360. Because you've come to Gary in his element. He is the Air Force, and you're about to interrogate him on a plane. He's cackling like Seto Kaiba himself about to reveal the game-winning Yu-Gi-Oh card.

You are interrogating a baby in a crib. That's his dojo. You're interrogating LeBron on the court, you know? You ever try to tickle a baby in his crib? Oh, he broke my wrist! Because it's his dojo. That's why they say you don't try and take candy from a baby.

They know nothing but candy. Yeah, that's their, that is their, the highest form of human enlightenment is a f***ing lollipop. Yeah. So if you try and take it from them. It's like trying to take a bone from a dog, yeah. Actually now I'm remembering the phrase, I think it's as easy as taking candy from a baby. I think they're actually quite weak and you can kind of just slap their little hand away. The brawn on the court was a fine analogy. So as I said this second man showed up

and began asking even more personal questions. This only stopped when an air hostess asked to see the stranger's ticket. Interestingly the man's ticket didn't match his seat number, so he was forced to move. However, instead of going to his assigned seat, he just moved one row back and continued to ask questions. How many siblings do you have? What's the name of the Air Force base that you work at? How much blood is in a human body? Once again, the air hostess had to move

this strange individual even further back in the plane to his assigned seat. And that was the last time Gary saw him. Yeah, unfortunately this was pre-911, so before the days of air marshals on flights. Otherwise this guy would have got hip tossed out the emergency exit of the plane. This is only a weird part of the story because it's it implies whoever the strange individual is he's so Determined to ask these questions and get answers that he not only sat down in his seat Presumably knowing he was gonna be moved eventually and then tried to get away with sitting just one row back So we could ask more questions and was moved a second time

Yeah So whatever these questions were he felt like it was important enough that he had to try and get them at any means. Now when Gary arrived at his parents house in Long Island, he was feeling a little unsettled by the strange men. So he decided he would blow off some steam and call his old buddy Mike who still lived in the area. Hey Mike, it's Gary. Surprise! I'm in Long Island! But Mike seemed confused. Yeah, Gary, I know you're in Long Island. You called me yesterday. Gary was confused. He hadn't told anyone about his trip. That was the whole point.

But Mike swore that yesterday he received a call from Gary saying that he was coming to New York. Mike said that his voice on the phone was weird, as if he had a stuffy nose or was coming down with a cold. Hello, it is Glary. I mean Gary. Gary. Gary. Gary Sudbrick. Whoever Mike had talked to yesterday, it wasn't Gary Sudbrick. Gary didn't know what to do at this point. Was someone impersonating him? How did they know that he planned this trip? Who were these weird guys at the airport? Unfortunately, he didn't have much time to figure it out before the mystery got even stranger.

Because at 10 p.m. that night, the phone in his parents' house started ringing and there was a strange Deep voice on the line at first. He thought the call was a prank by his brother Steven But when he reviewed the caller's location, it was simply listed as quote out of the area Now we have a recording of that phone call and we're gonna listen to it right here on the podcast Wow, how do we have a recording? Because I think this phone call even interrupted his call with Mike.

Okay. So he was already feeling strange and suspicious enough that he was like, I'm gonna record whatever's going on. Okay. So luckily enough, he managed to catch almost essentially the start of the conversation. Now, before we play the call, I do want to say it is a little bit creepy, but don't worry, the spooky edge is really taken off

due to the fact that Gary is from New York. Okay. And that's all I'll say. All right, let's sudden drink in there. Yeah, who's this? Stephen? Are you playing games with me or what? Huh? Stephen, if you're playing games, they're gonna kick your ass. So how long are you going to be back from Texas?

Huh? You're being impersonated by the other voice. Yeah, this is you, Steven, you idiot. You're pissing me off. Jerk. I'm gonna get you on, let's see what it says. Review.

One new call out of area. Is Steven out of the area wait said again wait hold on it's even out of the calling area what we don't know he's in Queens. I don't know No, be quiet, I'm sorry, would you see that again and be in a person aided by what voice Hello? Hello? Just carrying some sudden drink there. Why is he stuttering? Yeah, what is your question? I'll answer it. So how long are you going to be back from Texas? So, we're pausing midway, I just have to air air a theory, which is that

okay, this is practically like a tape recorder that he has like three lines on. That's all he has is Hello. How long you gonna be back from Texas? Is Gary Sud Sudbrink there? That line you were being impersonated by the other voice. Yeah. How long are you going to be back from Texas? Doesn't really make any sense. It doesn't particularly make any sense. Yeah, how long are you going to be back from Texas? Doesn't really make any sense. Doesn't particularly make any sense, yeah. Yeah, it's a strange line. But yes, that is, we'll go on to theories later, but it is worth noting, yes, he has kind of a selection of lines to choose from, it seems like.

Even though sometimes it feels like some are delivered in different ways or have a stutter in them. It's quite strange. Yeah, you would have to forensically go through, but at this point, clearly a voice changer is being used because it's too low to be a human register. And there seems to be a limited number of phrases. So has the audio been processed and has been played back over a tape recorder, kind of Bart Simpson style, hey mother, hey father, here I am in Camp Granada style. Right, right.

Okay, let's see if any more lines come to uh come to the top here how long would you be a person needed by the other voice right what am i coming back is that your question is that your question so how long am i going to be back to Texas that question doesn't make any You should know that question the answer to the questions because you seem to know more about me than I do Are you an intergalactic person your question space alien Sounds like you hung up. I can't't believe this it's a young up Gary if he comes back all right I'll hang up oh so he dialed Steven during it who he dialed this who else was on the line there that was his dad his I think his dad heard

that there was someone on the phone so he picked up you know how like house phones used to be able to have multiple phones? I was gonna say, I was gonna say he used to be able to do that, do you remember? That was some weird shit. Yeah. Why did it work like that? It'd be like, get off the line! Someone listening to your conversation.

It was so weird, yeah, you'd hear someone breathing, you'd be like, it would be your sister listening to your conversation, you'd be like, get off! I do love how kind of a cliche this phone call to a Long Island family is, that at one point there's clearly some kind of paranormal creature being like, you're being impersonated, and someone's like, who you talking to? I don't know who the f*** I'm talking to! Shut up, Ma!

Hey, do we know any impersonators, Ma? Imperson- what? You know, impersonators. Impersonators! You know the way Georgie down the deli does a great Frank Sinatra anybody who could do a personation to me Pretty strange call to receive right extremely I mean I'm glad that his family were there to soundly check him because if you if you were in a cabin on your own in

The woods in the middle of the night this would be a creepy call. Yeah now as we said you know at first Gary thought that this was his brother playing a prank on him but not only was the call coming from out of the area but his brother Stephen was really not known as a prankster this wouldn't be something that he would have done. I think the scariest part of this call is the voice repeating the line you're being impersonated by the other voice. Sure. Maybe by itself, that wouldn't seem so scary.

But a reminder that Gary's friend Mike had just claimed that he'd had a phone call from Gary that had never happened before. Yeah. He'd been impersonated by another voice. Now for Gary, this line, you're being impersonatedated was not only scary because of Mike's telephone call, but it also unearthed a memory from years back of a strange incident that his brother had experienced. Several years prior, Stephen was on his way to a wedding in Long Island. While driving down the road, another car pulled up and began driving beside him. Behind the wheel of this car was Gary,

and out of the blue, Gary started making disturbing twisted faces at Stephen, almost like he was trying to get his attention while driving. What? Then quickly afterwards, he sped off in the car in another direction. Now here's where the story gets weird. Gary wasn't going to that wedding. Now here's where the story gets weird. Gary wasn't going to that wedding. Not only that, but he didn't even have a car to drive in in Long Island. And what's weirder is the make and the model of the car that Gary was seen in was the exact same car that's parked at his home in San Antonio, Texas almost 2,000 miles away. Yeah, bit of a long commute to make a practical joke. Yeah, very strange. Now Gary and his parents spent the next few minutes trying to decipher the strange call,

but they didn't have long before the phone rang again. That's right, call number two. Yes, speaking. He's getting tired Can I see any questions for you? Not back yet, no, he's so sad sounds like he's grumpy yeah, oh when you come First back hahahaha hahahaha first you would tell me where are you calling from Gary Gary

yeah why don't you tell me where you're calling from hahahaha you didn't need to call back bud who is this he says you should know who it is, it's me, Gary let me answer this question. Where are you calling from? Okay, I'll be back Whoa, excuse me

He said keep an eye on the skies near you well The full moon yeah, there's a full moon out. That's true. Hold on. Let me switch phones. Gary's hooked now. He's like, all right, I'm in. What do I need to know? Yeah. Okay, hold on. Now, who are you? Keep an eye on the sky, he said. Eye on the sky? Yeah. Yes, and Kenny, I talked to him. Shh, he had a sighting. Okay, hold on. Say that on repeat that again Holy mackerel. Show double of you.

Repeat. He hung up. Gary's dad was about to be like, brothers, I saw you in the sky three nights ago, take me with you. Yeah, I wanted to bring up because Gary said, last time I thought that was interesting, he said, are you an alien? You extraterrestrials? Yes. And then immediately, he said, I'm going bring up because Gary said, last time I thought that was interesting, he said, are you an alien? You extraterrestrials? Yes. And then immediately there, Gary is like, he's like,

let me talk to him. I saw something. Yeah, that's Gary's dad. I think his name is Bill, maybe. We're going to get on to that in a second. But yeah, I think Gary is has his kind of Air Force captain, like hat on a little bit. Sure. Even in the way he speaks, he's like, I think Gary is has his kind of Air Force captain like hat on a little bit sure even in the way He speaks he's like I didn't get that repeat You know he's got his military hat on. Identify yourself repeat. Whereas his dad in the background is like are they here? He's got like Googly alien sunglasses on he's like I'm ready masters take me with you It's a very different kind of approach to the calls

a little bit different this time we're hearing some stranger sentences such as keep an eye on the skies near Orion full moon double of you strange stuff and I just want to remind everyone you know Gary Sudbrink he is an Air Force captain so I assume that's one of the reasons why he's kind of taking this seriously. Right. Because if they, if the voice was calling up being like, is your refrigerator running? Yes. He'd be like, all right, yeah, my refrigerator is running, so I better catch it.

But if they're talking about the skies, then he needs to be careful. Then he needs to be like, okay, there might actually be something going on here. Maybe this is a threat or a warning or something. That was only a few minutes later when the phone rang again. And this time, as we said, Gary's dad, who had been listening on the other line, decided to join the call and try and figure out who this mysterious caller was. Which, as we're about to hear, is extra hilarious because he immediately decides it's an alien and he wants to start talking to him about UFOs.

Stephen, this is not funny, you know. It's not, Stephen. Hello. I had a UFO experience in West Virginia, which you probably know. And I know that you're into an intergalactic person. Can you speak a little louder? Let me speak to him, dad. I guess I don't know. All right. I'll hang up so you can talk to me. He wants to talk to you. I don't know if you have a mouth, but trying to hold it close to you, perceive a close to your mouth.

Yes. Yes, that's me he really likes Gary I guess it's not Steven I believe it because I'm getting static hello floating miles above earth is gonna be gonna be static. And he hung up. Very weird. Don't really know why this guy can't get across everything he needs to say in one call instead of three, but fine, fine. He just calls back and he's like, hey, I know that this is the fifth time, but I would just be kicking myself if I missed any of this information.

So just to reiterate, is this Gary's sub break? Yes! He's like, yes, it's f***ing Gary, yes! Cool man, when are you getting back from Texas? And just a moment, did I say Orion already? Yes! Right, show double of you Orion, keep an eye on his guys. Okay, okay, I'm sure that's everything, I'm sure I haven't forgotten anything. I love that Gary is so sick of it. He's like, yes, now please don't call back here again. I can't have this in the background. His dad's like, let me talk to him, let me talk to him.

Real like, you know, like retired parents who anytime someone calls, it's like, hey, what are they up to? Tell them to come over. We can put the football on. They just want to hang out with anyone. Now the Subbr ranks waited around all night for the phone to ring again, but it never did.

In fact, the fourth and final call didn't come until the next day. You're supposed to be outside looking at Orion. He never- Show double of you. He never, remember? Show double of you. But the fourth and final call

didn't come until the next day. And if you had any doubt that this thing was from another planet, you won't after you hear this. We're going to play out the last recording and talk about some theories right after a quick word from today's sponsors. The team behind the True Crime Comedy Podcast, Who Shat on the Floor at My Wedding, are back. And we've just launched a brand new season where we investigate a bizarre new mystery. This one has it all. Twists, turns, lie detector machines worth 99 euros and leading criminal and forensic

experts. And a real undercover operation where we infiltrate a party full of suspects. Season two, The Case of the Tiny Suitcase is now live and can be found in the Who Shat on the Floor at My Wedding and Other Crimes podcast feed. All right, it's time to listen to the fourth and final call. This one says, is Gary Sudbrink there? I'm gonna smash your computer into a million pieces. Well look, when you call someone,

you just wanna make sure it's the right person. Oh my god. Is he gonna repeat everything we've already heard up to this point? He's not gonna repeat everything, but, you know, you do want to know who you're talking to, and they're gonna be back from Texas, and then maybe just clarify one or two more times

if it's still Gary. Why was he so sad? There's Gary's shop right there. It's the second call. When are you getting back from Texas? When are you getting back from Texas, Gary? It's like, I'll be back soon, I promise. Oh.

It's got real vibes of like, your partner calling you when you're at work. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I gotta, no, I gotta stay late. What? Yeah. When are you coming back? When are you getting back from Texas? It's like, look, I got it. No, I got to stay late. What? When you coming back? When you getting back from Texas? It's like, look, I know you have nothing on today, but I have a lot on. Well, OK.

To see Orion today? So, yeah, I can't have time to look at the stars. OK. Is this Gary? Yep, it's still Gary. Yeah, you do feel a little bad for this thing, whatever it is, weirdly, but I don't know. Maybe we won't feel so bad after this fourth call. Yeah, as a coffee. All right, I know this is Gary. Yeah, I realize this point is Gary.

I've woken up. I was really sleeping before. Yeah, this is the next morning. He's like, yeah, now that I'm fully rested, I need to talk to you about your extended car warranty. It's like, that's what it was about? Yeah, when are you getting back from Texas? Yeah, have you been involved in a crash recently?

Yeah. Maybe entitled to compensation. Jesus Christ. All right, here it is, the fourth call. All right, pause, pause, pause. God damn it. Look, I don't know why you... When I call you, do I not say, hey this Kit? No you don't. You don't. No what I will say is we have to remember it was the 90s. This was a house phone. You would call, because ironically it is his parents' house.

So he has to be like, is Gary there? Is he coming out to play? Yeah, you used to have to do that. It's show double of him tonight. Is he coming out to play? Will the real Gary Sunbrick please stand up? Please stand up. Yes, you did have to ask that

when you're calling a house phone. Yes. So this voice is like, hey, I'm about to say a bunch of really weird shit. Before I start, I just want to make sure, triple check this is Gary. And it's like, no, this is his dad, Bill. I'm so sorry, sir. Could you just put Gary on the phone for a second? He's like, yeah, Gary, here you go.

Thank you so much, sir. Show double tonight. The demon moon rises. It's like still Bill, it's still Bill. Oh, I'm so sorry, sir. If you could pass on this message to Gary, demon moon rise, show double tonight. That would be great.

Yeah, he's not in. Can I pass on a message? Oh, Jesus. No, no, I'll call back. It's honestly a little much to relate to you, Bill. Yeah, I'll call back 16 times tonight and ask the same question. But when he get back from Texas? How long he get back from Texas?

Unfortunately, I am, although I'm not that old, 32, but I am old enough to have had to live how embarrassing it was having a girlfriend when we, I guess I did have a mobile phone, but I think mobile phones were expensive enough that we still called on the house phone. And so like she would call the house and the rest of my family would be like, ooh, shut up. I'm imagining, you know, 15 year old Kit

with the wired telephone in his hands while he lies on the bed, twirling the wire. So, Ryan's pretty cool tonight, huh? My mom was like, you've been on for two f***ing hours, get off! What time you get back from Belfast? People don't know how competitive it was in a big household for the phone because if I wasn't trying to talk to my crush I was trying to play RuneScape over

dial-up. Yeah and you couldn't you couldn't do both at the same time because the internet came from the telephone lines so if someone wanted to use the phone you would disconnect the internet or vice versa. Yeah. It wouldn't work. So my mom would be like talking to her sister who lives in Canada, she hasn't seen in three years. Right. And I would try to log on to RuneScape to play with you. And she'd get booted off the phone.

She'd be like, you! I'm like, what'd I do? You don't understand. I'm trying to increase my fishing level, mother. There's a quest, mother. I remember that. I think, didn't your mother's sister, she like disappeared after a plane crash. She was gone for like 12 years or something.

They thought she was dead. Yeah. No, and actually the f***ed up thing is she got one call from her dying mobile phone in the middle of the wilderness. She got me because my mom wasn't in and I was too busy playing RuneScape. I forgot to middle of the wilderness. She got me, because my mom wasn't in, and I was too busy playing RuneScape, I forgot to pass on the message. She was given the courtesy of one call

from a Guatemalan prison. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Before she was executed by the state. I'm playing RuneScape with one hand, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll definitely pass on the message. Okay, yeah, bye, bye, bye. Yeah, yeah, sorry mom, someone sent me a YouTube link to Crazy Frog.

I wanted to see what it's all about. I mean, damn, that frog is crazy, though, isn't he? Look at him go. She's like, did anyone call today? I don't think so. Yeah, it was a crazy time. I feel like by the time I got a girlfriend, we were on the iPhone 12.

So I didn't have to worry too much about that. I'm twirling my charging cable to the point of beyond repair. But people don't know the stress of your crush texting you and you are out of text messages. You're out of data. So you would have to go with cash to go pay for a top-up card. Oh, man.

To top up your mobile phone. Yeah, and if you typed out more than like one page of text, that was, you would charge for two texts. That's two texts. Bro. It's like, all right, your phone is like, all right, Romeo, that's two texts right there. I remember during a particularly dramatic breakup in high school,

I sent a, I had to send a 12 pager, which that sounds like a lot, but I think it was like four lines was a page. That was like all the texts you could fit on that. So if you wanted to like also say, how are you doing? I was like, that's another page. Because Rory was starting his breakup text with a Oxford English dictionary just defines a relationship as when two people get together you're on text three already.

Yeah the dictionary defines the word cheater. It's just like terrible start, terrible start. No I remember I was much more of a MSN messenger kind of guy you? Then you have time to think. I call them the Casanova of MSN Messenger. Because I know of a few lines I could send to get the chicas excited. Right. I knew all the emojis. You were sending taking back Sunday lyrics, putting them in your username. Oh yeah, not just because I couldn't afford any more texts after the big break. All right, we're getting distracted here. This is the fourth and final call that Gary received from this mysterious individual. Sure he's gonna ask if Gary's there. I've come to expect it. You have to clarify. Yes, can I ask why you're calling? Can I please ask? Yes, this is

Oh we come I knew it they're aliens We come to be within this planet in this planet we've Warring sounds to visit the many To be contacted As the same with you With you Gary has pissed himself at this point is and the worry I gotta think about that

Hey, let me tell you something. I've been listening to you. And I've had contacts with you. Beware. Beware? F*** off Bill, beware! Government interference. Government interference.

You have? Please explain what type of interference. Wearing noises. Hesitation is to be disrupted by them. It appears. Oh, he's getting sleepy again. The sun will rise. Dark side of...

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Pretty wild stuff. We heard a lot of new things there. We come to be with this planet. Government interference, visitations to be disrupted by them. So did they. Because I understand for the purposes of creating this podcast investigation, you were gonna have to paraphrase a lot of information in this investigation, what has happened up to this point.

Why did they think there was aliens in the beginning when they hadn't said shit, and now it has turned out that they are aliens? Yeah, weirdly the first call, which didn't talk about aliens at all, just asked a bunch of questions. They were like, are you a spaceman? Really quick. And I'm glad that you asked that question, Kit, because as we kind of move into the realm of theories here of what this could be,

there is more to the Sudbrick family than you would think. You know, as we picked up before, Gary's dad seemed weirdly excited about the possibility that it was aliens. Even more so than Gary was. And that's because Gary's father and his uncle, Bill and Tom Sudbrink, claimed to have had an experience with a strange object in the sky on May 28th, 1989. Yeah, he wouldn't shut up about it. He actually mentioned West Virginia, a sighting in West Virginia,

which is where this took place. The two brothers were returning from a vacation in West Virginia when outside their car, they spotted a strange object hovering above them in the night sky. Now, assuming it was just a plane or a helicopter, the pair continued their journey, but every now and again looking

outside the window to see that the object was still there. Whatever this thing was, it was following their car as it drove along the road. Eventually the pair decided that whatever this thing was, it needed to be documented. Luckily, even though it was only 1989, the two men had a video camera with them. So they pulled over the car and set up the camera as fast as they could. In the end, they only managed to film around four seconds before the craft disappeared. Sure. Kit, you're a guy who's into old-timey photography.

Okay. You know the limitations of this equipment at the time. And 1989, I'm assuming setting up a camera is a two-day task. Okay, we're getting into the realm of the podcast here where we look at video evidence, photographic evidence, and usually, whoever is presenting the evidence is highly pessimistic about the technology capabilities of cameras at the time.

And the person who's sitting in the hot seat across from them is Extremely optimistic about what was possible. So right I could be hosting a case taking place in 2014 and I'd be like Did they even have cameras back then you're like, yeah, they absolutely did So I know I take your point. We're talking 89. I mean we're talking about yeah We're talking about those old-timey booths where you know blanket over your head No, it's not gunpowder. It's not any of that. It is electronic camcorders probably analog film ones Maybe the early days of digital film. Yeah, but you gotta like set up a tripod and put the tape

No, is there a free tape? No, you're gonna have to rewind the old one and re-tape over it Well, we should probably check what's on the tapes. No record. No, no, no. No, no, no. But I will take what you say about, yeah, I mean, the nature of filming something is very unpredictable. By the time you take a camera out, it could be possible that you've, it's too late and you're about to miss the thing.

Home video entertainment, home cameras, VHS cameras, at this time were designed to film birthdays and weddings. All right? They never anticipated that one of those weddings could be going 200 miles an hour in the night sky. It's not a wedding. They never thought that one of those weddings could be from another galaxy.

Some of them had Zoom. Is Gary Sudbrick here? When he come back from Texas? No, how long he come back from Texas? How When he come back from Texas? No, how long he come back from Texas? How long he be back from Texas? Just show me the video. There is no video. What?

There was only four seconds of footage. All right, so I- Four very crucial seconds. So I searched and I couldn't find it. We do have 19 more phone calls if you'd like to listen to that. We do have 19 more phone calls. If you'd like to listen to that. It's not how the internet works.

The video, it's like finding a needle in a haystack. Four seconds of video on the internet. Good luck, bud. You're never gonna be able to search for that. No way we're finding that. We can't find it. Fine. Look, we're dealing with a time where

Bill and Tom, after getting this, they probably mailed it. They probably sent this tape to individuals to be looked at. You didn't upload it to YouTube or your Instagram or your Snapchat. Well, look, it doesn't matter ultimately, does it? I mean, it would be pretty interesting and there is a possibility that these aliens are like,

okay, where should we land? Well, there is a guy who's a big fan of our work in Long Island so we could go near, maybe it's connected, but it doesn't have to be because I have faith that after everything that's unfolded to date, I'm assuming that in the days that followed, Gary and his dad went outside and got abducted.

Ooh, well, shit. And that, because it was the full moon, and it was exactly what it said, Orion, maybe even a laser beam, like zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz thing of him being impersonated and then saying, it's the double of you. So like, if that was a TV show, like that would be crazy to bring up that plot point and then not expand on it. So something's gonna happen. I just don't want you to get hung up on the idea

that they're gonna get abducted and like, we're gonna see like selfies. They don't need to get abducted. I would take footage of a craft, photo of a craft. And yeah. Well, I can give you something Kit because this four seconds of shit hot footage was sent to UFO investigator Bruce McAbee who yeah sure he ultimately decided the footage wasn't clear enough to confidently state it was a UFO but this was only the start of Bill and Tom's interest in UFOs.

Sure. They both eventually joined what's called as the Long Island UFO Network to investigate more sightings, which is only relevant because after one particularly dramatic sighting, where I think witnesses claimed a craft actually crashed into the earth in 1992. The president of the Long Island UFO network claimed that he started receiving threatening messages from strange computer-altered voices. Interesting. Right?

This UFO organization that Gary's dad and uncle are a member of. Their leader has had calls like this before from strange individuals threatening them about talking and investigating UFOs. Yeah, it is odd. You know, I do think this time period in general is quite interesting. I don't think it's actually one we've had a lot of cases in because the late 80s early 90s it's not, it wasn't a time of like absolute UFO fever a lot of maybe the naivety that surrounded this kind of UFO investigation was probably long gone but we do need to figure out where these are coming from because unfortunately right now these extraterrestrials are using a very human technology to talk to us.

And they are speaking English and they sound like guys with their voices pitched down. So if we are getting to a point in our story, and if we're trying to say that these people, these beings may be alien or extraterrestrial, we need to know a little more about what's going on. Hey, you know, I don't wanna have a go at these aliens for how shit their voice is Because we don't know what they look like, right?

There's a world where up on a craft the guy on the other end of that telephone is a f**k bubble Yeah And it's taken thousands of years of high-tech alien technology to be able to emulate anything that can even sound like a human's voice Yeah technology to be able to emulate anything that can even sound like a human's voice. Yeah. And we're like, it's a bit low, isn't it? And they're like, it's a bit low. Yeah.

We don't even have a throat. Yeah. We communicate through bubbles. It's like the way we got given a lovely Bigfoot collar. Yeah. And, you know, this thing. Don't blow it, please, because it sounds just horrible. The Bigfoot's going to be like, what the f***? That sounded like shit. Yeah. this thing. Don't blow it please, because it sounds just horrible.

The Bigfoot's gonna be like, what the f***? That sounded like shit. Yeah. But like, it's gonna get his attention. What kind of accent is that? Where are you from? Yeah. It's like, no, it doesn't matter,

but we can be perceived and understood by Bigfeet. It is possible, but I think I've been very judicious in my decision to leave it this long in the podcast before saying- Whoa, well before you, whoa, before just a whoa. This is premium hoax material, isn't it? Well, before you just go on, you know, let's talk about a few more paranormal theories. Before we get into it.

Right, well for sure. I'm just saying the technology would lend itself to- Sure. Hey hoax. And before we start poking holes, you know, and getting into the nitty gritty and stuff, is Gary's subbrink there? You know? All right, you need to stop.

When's he getting back from Texas? These are the big questions we need to ask ourselves. Sure. The two main paranormal theories are, one, that this is some kind of alien, spaceman, extraterrestrial, trying to make contact with Gary and his family for some reason. The other option is that this is, of course, an interaction with an official MIB. A man in black.

You know, because we've talked about men in black a lot of the times on the podcast before. They're these kind of men in suits with sunglasses and hats that show up after paranormal events and kind of shut witnesses down You didn't see anything hit him with the neuralyzer Do intimidating phone calls wire taps all of that sort of thing, but when you really investigate The phenomenon of Men in Black. I mean we did a whole episode on them on the podcast before. In a lot of stories, they're not even human. They're like floating or they have no pupils in their eyes. And in a lot of stories, more often or not,

they sound a lot like this mother- like low batteries in a Furby. They're kind of just talking like this. Just saying all the vital information they need to a Furby, they're kind of just talking like this. Just saying all the vital information they need to before they just hover down your driveway and are never seen again. Yeah, you know, who's to say that, you know, men in black are government agents that enforce the idea that aliens don't exist?

Why not cut out the middleman? You don't need government agents. Just have aliens in disguise Stopping people from believing in aliens, right? You know, you probably yeah have to focus pretty hard on the disguise because if it's the aliens we were talking about earlier It's a bubble. Yeah, it's a bubble with a hat on and sunglasses Yeah, and you could just pop them if they kind of get in your way too much I think the main flaw in this theory is that if it is an MIB, he's saying a lot of shit

he shouldn't be saying. It's not the typical MIB message, is it? Right. If anything, it's the opposite. It's revealing information about intergalactic lights. It's saying we are intergalactic. Yeah, yeah. We are from here.

You know, you need to look to the skies. So literally go looking for us. Yeah, it's kind of like, if this was an MIB, I assume he hung up the call and he was like, wait, did I tell him to look at Orion or not look at Orion? The human language is so difficult. So complex. Why won't they speak in bubbles

like the rest of the universe? Yeah, yeah. Bubbles are simple and beautiful. Human words are convoluted and confusing. Damn it, phones up, is this Gary Sondbrink? Please speak in bubbles. I can't understand you. The most confusing thing is our researchers

have shown they have bubbles and don't use them to communicate. You're never gonna believe this. They give them to their f***ing children. The children are master communicators in bubbles. So yeah, it could just be that this is maybe like an MIB's first day on the job. He's like just learning to speak human,

but he has such a tenuous grasp on the English language, the human language, that he's just saying everything wrong. It takes him like 16 questions to understand one answer. Which sounds ridiculous, but you should have seen me in GCSE Spanish. Yeah, we never got there really. I probably said mi amo Rory 19 times in my oral exam. In the same, and I was so tired

and going through a weird stage of puberty at all, kind of, donde esta la biblioteca? Yeah. She's just like, what, what? Donde esta la biblioteca? Me gusta hamburger. What about hamburgers? I like hamburgers.

Alright, yeah, no, I get that. You like hamburgers? I love Rory. Yeah, this is Rory. Oh shit. So accurate. So, yeah, it doesn't actually... This is a real possibility. If it was an alien or a man in black who is an alien,

they just don't really know how to speak English actually... This is a real possibility. If it was an alien or a man in black who is an alien, they just don't really know how to speak English, and this is them trying their best. Now let's get on to the section of the podcast that Kit is just gonna love. I know. I just was vaguely curious. Oh, he's been waiting for this one. He's been just...

I saw him put his AirPods in at one point of the podcast. He had me tuned out. The video viewers will understand I've been very respectful and interested all throughout. That's great. As soon as he heard he wasn't getting those four seconds... You... He was done. You have so little confidence in the case you are teeing up the fact that I'm going to be so anti any paranormal explanations, but I'm really not of quite an open mind.

I'm just, you just said a lot of stuff about wanting to see like abductions photos and aliens and stuff. And then the fact that there was only four seconds of footage and I didn't even have that was it doesn't shine me in a good light. Why, why are you your own conclusions in your own head already? Why do I feel like you're about to reveal like some kind of silver bullet of anti-evidence against the whole thing? There is there's no such thing as anti-evidence. All right. There's just seen a lot of other two.

There's just other theories. You know, anti-evidence is when they unmask the Scooby Doo villain and it's the hotel manager. That's anti-evidence for the paranormal. Right, yeah. I usually stop watching by that point. Usually when they've caught the cryptid, I'm like, on to the next one and just shoot that one in the head. And then they're like, don't you want to take off the mask? The what? I don't think we should. I don't know, was there ever a Scooby-Doo episode where Freddy was like,

let's see who's really behind this. And then he tugs the hair of the beast and it just, nothing comes off. I'm like, oh shit! It's gotta be like a Halloween episode. It f***ing bites Freddy's hand off. Yeah, shoot him! Shoot him now! It isn't a man!

So yes, anti-evidence. Is that where we are now? There are some theories that the entire thing was a hoax. Yeah, no shit, so. Yeah, because, now, before we get any further down this path, I wanna say that there are people who have done extensive research analyzing the audio files. There's one YouTuber in particular

that did a fantastic job of this. YouTuber Pandox, I believe, was one of the individuals who analyzed this. Even taking clips of what Gary said, taking clips of the mysterious caller, speeding up that caller's, those samples, to give it the actual regular tone of a human voice, analyzing the two voices, and figuring out whether the speech patterns or certain words were similar enough that it could be proven to be Gary's voice. Right, okay, got you.

And they were two different, I believe, in all the tests that they ran. So if this was a hoax, it didn't seem like Gary was in on it, or at least it wasn't his voice on the recorder. Did the voice have a bit of a New York accent? That's not for me to say. So that is a theory that Gary was maybe not the voice on the phone, but it was maybe a hoax

to kind of drum up some publicity or attention, even though they didn't get a book deal. This didn't really even go any further than these phone calls. It was just a strange, mysterious, paranormal event. So that's what we're left with. Could it have been an MIB? Could it have been an extraterrestrial

or some kind of bizarre hoax that just has no purpose or punchline? I mean, if we're having to look at the most likely scenarios and if a hoax is one of those possibilities, I feel like it's less likely that Gary is in on it at all and it feels much more likely that this is close to something we all grew up knowing and loving, prank calls. Yeah. That this is more likely that Gary had absolutely nothing to do with this, that someone knew his number, knew his name and was like, let's f*** with Gary, used a voice pitch shifter, whatever. These things are pretty readily available. We did also address the fact that there was

only a few lines spoken. They also seemed to pretty much then hang up the phone when they ran out of lines, potentially recorded new lines before they called again, and then repeated those lines for the next call. And then it just so happened the freak accident here was that Gary did record it all. And then Gary did tell other people, get his dad on the phone. And then it kind of took a life of its own beyond just the prank call. Because prank calls, like you pointed out, prank calls did only exist for just a bit of fun with friends back in the day. You didn't do it for any reason.

I never got into prank calls. I actually only ever did one prank call in my life and it basically scared me straight. I was at a petrol station with my family and while my parents were in paying for the gas, me and my brother went into a telephone booth and we were kind of like messing around, hitting numbers, looking for quarters in the slots.

And he was like, hey, I dare you to call the police. And do a prank call. Shit, he went straight for the, he went, he did the only prank call that said legal. Like they're all legal except for that one. And I'd never done a prank call before. I don't think I've ever used a telephone before. Let's do a prank where we say there's been a terrible,

terrible plane crash on a motorway and that a hundred people are dead and you need to send 10 ambulances. Yeah, let's call them up and say, we're going to shoot the president. That'll be a fun way to kind of dip our toes in the world of prank calls. But as a kid I was like I was like the jokes on my brother I can act cool now and be like yeah I'll do it I don't care because I know there's no money in this

telephone the phone call is not gonna go through so I, yeah, I'll do it, baby. A nine, a one, a one. They answered immediately. Nine, one, one, what's your emergency? I panic. I can't get a word out. I can't believe the phone connected. All of a sudden, I'm starting to replay every spy movie in my head. And all of a sudden, I think they're tracing the call to this telephone booth. He's squealing like Olaf. So I hung up the phone immediately. I think I probably started crying because I didn't realize that the phone call was actually going to go through.

And then I think me and my brother came clean to my mom whenever she came out of the gas station. Not necessary. Yeah. It was a pay phone. They couldn't possibly trace it to you. We squealed like a canary in the coal mine We're like it's gonna come out mom. It's gonna be on the news tonight

So we gotta get ahead of it. We called the police. I love I love the idea that yeah They left you at the car. Everything was fine. They came back to the car. You're crying so hard You're doing that thing where no noise is coming out. You're like What's wrong? He come out of the car, and 12 year old Rory, his head is pressed to the bonnet of the car, handcuffs behind his back.

I didn't know I would go through without quarters! And we told her about it, and it was only extra funny, cause she was so angry with us, that she said we had to call back and apologize. The only thing you shouldn't do. The one thing you shouldn't do. I'm a baby and even I know that's a terrible idea to call the police again and be like

hi you might have just got a call from me but I wanted to say that was a prank call and I didn't know it was gonna go through and I just want to call again and say I'm sorry. They're like, they're like, Jesus Christ, which one? Was it the call about the murder? Oh, no, not that one. Was it? Wait, so the murder's real? I just called off the hunt. You're like, oh shit. Yeah, that was, that was the, and that was my first ever prank call,

which did not go the way I wanted it to. So I actually never did another prank call again. But I think we've got all the information that we're going to get out of today's case. So we have everything we need to come down on our conclusion. Kit, what do you think about the mysterious phone calls received by Gary today? Do you believe this is paranormal or possibly just a hoax?

I really want to believe them, I would say, because it does have, if it is a hoax, it has just enough of a creepy vibe to it and just enough kind of cool intrigue and vagueness. That's what you need with a good alien communication from another galaxy is vagueness. It become double of you, look to Orion. For some reason that tickles our brains

and tells us that could be how aliens talk. But I think for me, I am too hung up on just the plain facts. These were phone calls. This was human speech in English, pitch shifted to sound lower. Maybe we could stretch our imaginations and say it was aliens on the other line, but there's nothing to suggest that it was.

Yeah, I'm kind of the same with you. I really love this case. It's very similar to some of the paranormal mystery cases we've done before. It really reminds me of first off emails from the 1500s. That kind of thing where it's like technology is being used to deliver paranormal messages. Also, the Max Headroom case where Vrilon

from the planet Ashtar. Crazy mother-in-law named Vrilon. Hacked, I believe all the TVs in America or something like that. And began to broadcast a weird signal Really cool episode of this paranormal life. That's the stuff I really love, you know when when as we move forward in terms of technology that they're being used to deliver messages and I actually really like this the start of the stories the strange individuals asking questions

The call from Mike. There's a lot of weird stuff in this that is so, there's so many layers to it, you know? Like the phone call where Mike said he already talked to Gary, but he sounded like, let's face it, it must've been this voice, right? Right. He was like, Hey Mike, it's me, Gary. And he just told me he was coming to visit. It's so so weird. Unfortunately, we just I don't I don't think I have enough evidence in today's story to to decide that this is paranormal. It's too it would be too easy to hoax because you could even argue that like maybe it would be difficult to get your hands on the technology to fabricate your voice. But I think like, wasn't this the time of like the talk box that was popularized through Home Alone, where you could just record

and then do weird shit to your voice. So really this technology was widely available. It was, that's why I'll take the lead and give it a no today. Ooh, that is a double no, unfortunately unfortunately today in this investigation but a great story, a weird one, a little bit of a different one. Not in investigating a beast or a cryptid or a ghost but a tale, a mystery which is actually some of my favorite stories that we investigate on this podcast. Maybe we need to dive back into the world

of prank calls. That can be like a thing if you sign up to Patreon with your phone number. You just never know when it's going to happen, but we'll just call your personal phone at some point and be like, is Michael there? And they're like, yeah, I assume this is Kit and Rory because you're the only ones that would ever do this. And I was like, no, this is, this is Jarton. He's like, all right, so what's up with you guys?

Is Mark cooler? All right. This really wasn't worth the money because it was on the $100 tier on Patreon. What are you getting back from Bristol? It's like, I don't even live in Bristol. Yeah, we know nothing about them. Uh, we've talked before, you were really a fan of it. And I think I've had to shut it down multiple times about having live callers

on the podcast. A terrible, terrible, terrible idea. But that I think has been vindicated by several hit podcasts featuring live callers. What we could do though, if we want to in some capacity for a bonus episode or an after party is you can, I think you can sign up for like digital voicemail so people can call a number. And then if you go on the website,

all the recordings are there. So we could have a thing where people call in and tell their own paranormal stories or, you know, tell us about things that they want us to investigate. And we can listen to some of those on the podcast. What are you scared of? Just let them speak lie. You don't want to you don't want to be. Kit is the man of the people.

I want to let people speak. I want to give them the platform. Let them speak. Yeah. Sometimes it's going to be controversial. Yeah. Sometimes it might be bordering on racist. That is just the risk you run speaking to the people. Shouldn't be, because you can just not do the risk by having it all pre-screened. So that's a fun little thing. We've gone to our live shows. They're lovely. They actually are lovely. Everyone is very sweet.

Everyone listening is a beautiful sweet human being with the pure soul and wouldn't say anything controversial. I'm sure. Right. Right. That's kind of our job. Being the ones on stage with the microphones. But hey, who knows? Maybe we'll do something like that in the future. Maybe for a celebratory episode. 300, 400, something like that.

Would be an absolute blast. Hopefully you enjoyed this week's episode, even though it was a double no. If you do want to support the show, we've set it before. The place to be is patreon.com. Over there, you can get access to a ton of amazing bonus content. Let's say you're caught up. Let's say you feel like you're listening to the same thing over and over again. All the old episodes is Gary there.

When are you getting back from Texas? That's what it sounds like when you're listening to old episodes of This Paranormal Life. I don't know if this is the right sell. What if I took- Because we're offering them more old episodes of This Paranormal Life. Yeah, but on these episodes, we're saying a bunch of crazy stuff,

like look at Orion, there'd be double of you. Yeah, also- Dark side of the moon. Today's episode was a hoax. I just don't want to be selling people on a hoax. Yeah, I was trying to like thematically like plug the Patreon, linking it to today's content. But now I'm seeing, maybe it would just be smart to say

that for five bucks, which is an absolute steal, you can get access to hundreds of hours worth of bonus content. And it's the best way to support the show and everyone that makes this podcast every week. Yeah, that's an awesome, better way of saying it. That's way better, I would say so. And, you know, I've said it before,

it's worth noting that when this podcast started in 2017, $5 could buy you a lightly used Honda Civic. It could buy you, in some states, it would buy you a one-bedroom apartment. Yeah. Now it buys you an ice cream cone. Not the ice cream, by the way, just the cone. Right.

A little wafer at the bottom, yeah, for five bucks. I'd say, what, $27 now for if you want cream in the cone. Oh, my God. If you want it to be iced, you better bump it up to just a Benjamin. Get a mortgage, buddy. So it's only becoming more of a deal over time. It really is. Yeah.

Thanks to the beauty of inflation. That beautiful thing, which means all of our money is worth less than ever. So head on over to Patreon and for five bucks, you can get access to it all. What I'm trying to say is it's never been cheaper. It's never been cheaper. That's why we've introduced a brand new tier at $150 a month, which is basically pennies, which involves a subscription to a Duolingo course in teaching you how to speak bubble. Kit and I teach you how to speak bubble and

you're gonna see some complaints and some reviews of the course giving it one star saying that they joined a zoom call where Kit and I blew bubbles into our webcam for four hours straight and then directly charged money from their giving it one star, saying that they joined a Zoom call where Kit and I blew bubbles into our webcam for four hours straight, and then directly charged money from their PayPal accounts. But that's how you speak it, all right? They just don't understand it yet because they haven't had enough bubble experience.

It's called immersion language learning. We don't speak a word of English on the class. Yeah, I should say as well because we were talking about how much it costs. To be clear, in case anyone doesn't want to do the international payment thing, Patreon is all very sophisticated now. Whether you are in Switzerland, in Germany, in Australia,

in Zimbabwe, you will get charged in your local currency. So it is accessible to all internationally. It's universal, like the bubble. It really is. So head on over and check out patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life. I hope you enjoyed this mysterious, bizarre little investigation that we did this week.

And of course, I hope you'll stick around for next Tuesday when we investigate a brand new paranormal tale. Ciao bella. Bye bye.