This Paranormal Life - #380 The Patterson Footage - Bigfoot on Camera?

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

In the paranormal evidence Hall of Fame... well, there aren't many inductees... but there are a handful of incredible pieces of evidence that have changed or shaped the world. The most famous of all must be The Patterson-Gimlin Film. 59 seconds of earth-shattering footage taken in the Pacific Northwest in 1967, allegedly of Bigfoot. On this episode of This Paranormal Life Kit and Rory dissect, not only the footage, but the events leading up to it and the legends surrounding it. By the end they decide whether the Patterson footage really shows Bigfoot or not.Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.comResearch by Ewen FriersEdited by Philip Shacklady Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Is there a paranormal Olympics? What's the most haunted food? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life! Hello and welcome back to This Paranormal Life. This is a weekly comedy podcast where every Tuesday, me, Kit Grimelvenna and this guy sitting across from me, Mr. Rory Powers, get to the bottom of a different paranormal case,

deciding by the end of that episode whether we think it's really paranormal or not. How you doing today, Rory? Doing fantastic, love the idea of a paranormal Olympics. You know, straight off the bat. The long jump, you've got Spring Heel Jack, Slender Man. Running out of sports really quickly right no competing in the

long jump yeah because those guys can they got they got hops some sports might need to be rejigged because you could have things like you know thousand meter hurdle talk about performance enhancing drugs ghosts are just gonna float right through every hurdle I don't know if that I don't think that really counts I think they should have to jump over it we're gonna have to rethink a few sports yeah I I don't know if that, I don't think that really counts. I think they should have to jump over it. We're going to have to rethink a few sports. Yeah. I didn't even think about that long jump.

Again, they can float high jump. They can float. Right. There is more stuff than jumping to real athletes should just kill themselves on the starting line, become ghosts and they'll win every single competition. Don't clip that out. Right.

I see what you saying. Become a ghost. Oh, I like that. Yeah, I mean that does kind of make sense. Like when... I wasn't saying do it because there's no chance that you're going to win a gold medal. I was saying you'll perform better as a spirit, as a ghost.

Yes. Well, it's like that old joke people sometimes say that, hey, what we really need to see is one schlub from the real world put into every Olympic event just to be a frame of reference for the elite performance of Olympic athletes. Yeah. Because let's face it, we all watched the high jump, we watched the long jump,

and even with like six coronas in me sitting on the sofa scratching my ass, I'm like, I think I could do better. I really think I could do better. Right, but if in that televised competition, they had some guy called Jeremy, who's never done a day of exercise in his life, also competing, you'd realize how high that jump is.

Yeah. Because he can kind of barely make it onto the mat. He kind of just falls down his knees, buckle, then you realize how impressive the Olympic athletes really are. I think my only experience of these kinds of games were like school, like PE, like kind of sports day shit. We would do some of this kind of track stuff.

I seem to remember you were kind of annoyingly good at quite a lot of it. I seem to remember almost with like a baseball because simply because Rory was American with his baseball chops, you're pretty good at like shot put javelin, anything with a that you need a mean, right shotgun for. You are right. It's because, so I grew up playing baseball in Northern Ireland, and people don't really think about it a lot, but in the UK, there aren't really a lot of popular sports that involve throwing shit. Yeah, that's more of a kind of... It's a lot of kicking shit.

It's more of kicking people to death. There's more. There's a lot of throwing kind of Molotov cocktails and petrol bombs, but that's less kind of on the track and field. I guess rugby, but rugby's even like kind of under arm and backwards. Yeah, we're spindly. We don't have good arms, good throwing arms. Beefy legs, but yeah, spindly arms.

So it just meant when it came to any competition that involved throwing stuff like javelin or shock put, that American eagle arm in me just screeched with a thousand years of patriotism and fired that thing into the sun. But a thousand years of patriotism, America didn't exist 300 years ago, but yes. It exists in the hearts of men.

So yeah, it meant that luckily, I think I was on our school's gymnastic team for like three sports, not running mind you, because I was a heavy, heavy boy, but yes, all the ones that just involved throwing things. I like the idea of the PE teacher. He treated you like a wagyu beef car. He was like, he was like, no, Rory don't, don't be spending too much energy on the runner, we need you in A, A plus conditions.

So Rory, here's, here's a, here's a sleeve of Oreos and a couple of juice boxes. You just hit the sharps, champ. You've killed it this afternoon, brother. Right. He's like, what the f***? Why doesn't Rory have to sprint with the rest of us? Rory is a champion and we need to let him rest. By the end of my third year at school, I looked like the king of Arrakis from Dune.

I was kind of floating in goo. Sure, I could throw a ball far, but I couldn't do anything else. It was, it was not good. It was Baron Harkonnen, post-secondary school, pass me the shot put. This was very timely because the Olympics, well, it's on right now at the time of recording. I don't know if it's going to be over by the time this comes out, but it's been an exciting time, and maybe it's got us thinking about what Paranormal Olympics could look like. We are not here to talk about any of that though. We are going to be talking about something equally or more important, but very different

today. Rory, let me start off by asking you a quick question. You're a film buff, right? Sure. I went to film school. I enjoy the medium of cinema, so yes. You get invited to a lot of movie premieres as well. I have in the past.

There was actually a beautiful period in the kind of mid 2010s where Rory was single and he had a bunch of plus ones to events. So, yeah, boy kit was getting the trickle down tickonomics, getting mad tickets to things. Yeah, yeah. We were almost late to every single one. I don't think we ever got to walk the red carpet.

But that's what all the cool people do, right? They show up super late. Which is pretty impressive for a guy like me who was absolutely unemployed at that time. Maybe you listening at home don't have a degree in film like Rory, but you don't have to go to film school to know that film can change the world. History proves time and time again that film is an extremely powerful medium. And that is also true in the paranormal world. Normally on this paranormal life,

we dive into a case and hope for the best that there's some evidence along the way. But not today. Today, we're doing it backwards. Because sometimes there's a piece of evidence so important, you have to start there. Hmm, I like this. And today's case is about the most famous paranormal evidence in history, the Patterson footage. Holy shit, okay, this is like going back

and investigating the first ghost story. This is returning to the source of the inspiration behind a paranormal phenomenon. Rory, I say we just dive right in. Let's do it. After a couple of words from today's sponsors and a reminder that- Well, no, because you just said we're going to dive right in. You said, Rory, let's dive right in. And I said, yeah, that sounds great.

And now you're saying we're going to an ad break? It's kind of a podcasting, you? But it's kind of a podcasting. That's weird. It's kind of a wink and a nudge in the podcasting industry that everyone knows that we're going to get right into it, but first. But first, hey. So we're not getting right into it, then.

You would say we're about, at some point, we're going to talk about it. You're being a little bit of a tricksy little pedant today. I'm just excited, because you said that we're going to talk about the most important paranormal footage ever seen. And we're going to do it the most important paranormal footage ever seen and we're gonna do it right now. Yeah. Right after a quick word.

Well exactly. Yeah well then it isn't right now you know. Just don't get me excited. I'll do you one better. Okay. You're not gonna hear the ads. Oh of course yeah. Right because you're with me in the studio.

That's right. So it's actually for you it's gonna seem absolutely seamless. For our listeners at home, because of the ad supported nature of this paranormal life, which we're spending way too much time Deliberating people are arguably just fat They probably started fast-forwarding through the ads as soon as I said as soon as I started talking earlier If anything, they probably stopped hitting fast-forward and are there back at this point. I'm sorry to tell you everyone Mother of mercy and it's crazy as well, because as you said, I wasn't even going to hear the ads.

Yes. We would have gone right into it. But now we've actually spent quite a bit of time talking about you going into the ad. Well, I've been belaboring the ad process. Yeah. So I don't actually mind. F*** me.

Do double ads. It doesn't make a difference to me. To you, exactly. Yeah. I will use this as a jumping off point to say that if you're like Rory, you are weirdly angry about ads. You can get every episode of this paranormal life on patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life.

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All right, so kind of the whole thing probably didn't need to be talked about. Yeah. Into the story, into today's story. Right, let's dive right in. Right. Like the f***ing Olympics, like the Olympic diving. Let's dive right in. As I said, we were talking about the most important paranormal evidence of all time,

the original most important footage of Bigfoot, the Patterson footage. 7.27 meters of analog film Rory. 954 immortal frames with a full runtime of one minute. Wow, it's not really that long, is it? I feel like we should show this shit to the creators of June 2. Like, I think we can cut this shit down, guys, from three hours.

Look at what these guys were able to fit into one minute of film. Yeah, they changed history with one minute. But how did it all play out that fateful day? Bob, cover me! shouts Roger Patterson as he leaps from his startled horse and wrestles a cinecam from his saddlebag. The camera rolls. It's October 20th, 1967.

We're deep in the woodlands of Northern California with cryptid hunter Roger Patterson and his associate Robert Bob Gimlin. Hmm. In a clearing on the banks of Bluff Creek, they've just spotted a large hairy figure crouched behind a fallen tree. The creature rises and walks in the opposite direction. Estimated to be seven foot tall, bipedal and covered in thick brown hair, the ape-like figure is exactly the creature Patterson has been hunting for the past few years. The beast known as Bigfoot. It's as close as 25 feet away and moves purposefully

into the more dense forest. It looks over its shoulder multiple times at the stunned men. But crucially, we don't just know this because of Patterson and Gimlin's testimony, but because of the footage that Patterson shot on his 16mm camera, all 59.5 seconds of it. Wow. And look, people listening to this podcast right now, you may think that you don't know this footage, that you haven't seen this footage. If you've ever even seen an illustration of Bigfoot,

it's come from this footage. That iconic walk that he's doing in every Bigfoot illustration, the halfway. Mid-stride silhouette. Face turned towards the camera. That comes from the Patterson footage. There's a reason why that pose is so iconic and it comes from this.

Yes, it's a good point because as we've heard, the film is about a minute long, but there is just a couple of crucial moments where he is mid-stride and he turns and basically locks eyes with the camera. Oh, he goes vogue. He kind of pouts. You know this mother****** has been mewing.

He's got that chiseled jawline. He looks good. He's breaking the fourth wall like he's in a series of the US Office. He's addressing us, the audience. Fun fact, Troy. I don't know if you remember, this image, this silhouette, this imagery of Bigfoot is actually a lot closer to home than the audience might know,

because of Dublin. Because of the Gorilla Man I saw in Dublin. No, no, no. Fuck off. We're not talking about that. Well, that's pretty close to home. No. OK.

There's a different reason. All right. Can we just get a clean take of that? Because I want to cut that. I want to cut that. Oh, don't cut that. Because it's important. Because we're not very far take of that? Because I want to cut that. I want to cut that. No, don't cut that. Because it's not very far into the episode and I don't want you to be bringing up

the Dublin Gorilla Man. He's going to come up in my nightmares. This... Good. Sense the event. I hope he tortures you in your dreams. The silhouette of Bigfoot in the Patterson footage,

that is on the original This Paranormal Life artwork of this podcast. Yeah. Our weird, burgundy, mauve f***ing artwork back in the day in 2017, it had a triptych, a kind of three icons. It had Bigfoot, a UFO, and an alien head. Yeah. And if you look back, listeners, you will see that that is the Patterson footage, Bigfoot.

Well, it stayed for even longer than that because we did the rebrand where it was the triangle. So true. And he was in the triangle. And I think I've only disclosed this before at live shows, but it's been long enough now. If you actually look at high-res versions of the This Paranormal Life artwork, you can see the three original icons hiding in the artwork. Ah, yes. Yeah, I believe the UFO and Bigfoot and the ghost are somewhere there in the design.

I forgot that. It's a good Easter egg, actually, if anyone hasn't heard that. Because that is, we wanted to keep the, we want to literally keep the DNA of the original artwork alive in the new art. So take another look at that artwork. This is where I go and check it and and I'm like, no, never mind. We actually didn't do it. No, we took it out and you didn't look shit.

It looks bad. No, it's there. I'm pretty sure. But I don't know. Actually, thinking about this, I have no idea if we had the rights to use that image, but we printed it on a lot of t-shirts. So cool.

Yeah, definitely not the Bigfoot one. I actually drew the UFO and the ghost. Fun fact. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're like, you just got tired for the Bigfoot you're like, ah, fine. I ain't drawing that. I ain't drawing that pose. I'm not good enough.

But Rory, I'm glad you brought it up. You said, look, if you don't think you've seen this, you have. So, to be clear, you've seen this footage before? Oh, I've seen this footage before. I think we've maybe even used it in cases before, where we've investigated Sasquatch and Bigfoot. Yes, if you're joining us, maybe for one of in cases before, where we've investigated Sasquatch and Bigfoot. Yes, if you're joining us, maybe for one of the first times, we have covered Bigfoot many times in other episodes, in various visages, such as the Skunk Ape

and other similar beasts. But I felt it was necessary to do a deep dive on the Patterson footage. It is so important. This has been suggested by several listeners, so thank you if you have suggested that over email or on social media. Thank you for this great idea. You've probably seen it before and if you haven't, go check it out right now as you listen to this.

I think we take this opportunity to remind ourselves of that Patterson footage. Let's do it. Before we get any further, I want to watch this right now. Rory, feast your eyes. Okay, we've got a shaky camera capturing images of the woods. This footage is a lot older looking than I remember. Do you know what year this was filmed in? 67. 67? Which is a lot more recent than the Patterson footage feels. Yeah this looks like it was 1930s. But of course we got a shot of the woods here in the distance.

We do have a very tall bipedal monkey looking figure further away than you probably think, strolling leisurely kind of from a clearing in the woods deeper into the forest. It's very shaky at the beginning, but then thankfully Patterson does really steady the camera for the middle portion of the video, and that's when we get a really, really good look

at this thing. Yeah, it's pretty clear, even with this old-timey camera, it is very clear. And I think that's exactly why people have been able to get such a strong image of Bigfoot from this, because you can, I mean, we could do it in a second, but you can stop this video right on that stabilized section. Let's try and capture the moment right here on the podcast

when he looks back. There it is. Oh, there it is. Oh my God, Kit timed it perfectly. That is the iconic Sasquatch pose. Wow. Like, I think we've literally seen this on posters. I'm pretty sure Mulder has that framed in his office.

You know, like it's that kind of image. Yeah, yeah. What I wanted to show you, just for another quick look at this, is using the power of modern video software technology, we can see a stabilized version of this to get even more images of Bigfoot. Wow, this is terrifying. The shot has been stabilized,

but he's still moving through the frame. It's kind of blending it together. That is terrifying. The shot has been stabilized, but he's still moving through the frame. It's kind of blending it together. That is terrifying. The technology is able to do that. I mean, with AI these days, you could probably next show me a clip where he's in an anime. And this is what it would look like if he had Goku's hair. Apologies if you were listening to this in podcast form

in your favorite podcast player because this is quite visual, but we will provide a link in the description so you can watch this on YouTube really handily. And if you're watching this on YouTube, when we've embedded the video, I'm sure, but it is easy to understand how this was so impactful because we're going to talk a lot about how believable or not this footage is, but imagine a world in which this had never been seen before. That's pretty clear. That's pretty cool. That's pretty realistic looking on absolute surface level.

Yeah, in terms of the first evidence of something like this existing, it's pretty clear. Yeah, we got him. In 4K. Ladies and gentlemen, we got him. Yeah. There is a couple of details I didn't know about this video, namely that as he leaves the field of view of the camera where Patterson is filming him, apparently he took off towards

more kind of high forested ground in the forest here. Now Patterson and Gimlin did try to follow him up there, but they lost track. I guess, fair enough, if you stay kind of in one place filming, trying to keep steady, he's gonna gain some ground on you, and he allegedly got away. He's a big dude, he looks like he's eight foot. Well, let's address that before we misgender Bigfoot, Roy,

because I did not realize that one of the most famous pieces about this is the creature's breasts. Now, I am proud to say, I don't know, I don't know if that makes me a boob guy or an ass guy. I did not see the breasts. My eyes did not go, like fellas, my eyes are up here. I did not look at the creature's chest, but apparently some more kind of horny individuals

have identified that the creature apparently does have breasts, which has given rise to the popular name for this bigfoot of Paddy, named after Patterson. Keep an eye on those people. I'm just saying, so we've got to gender the beast correctly, and if I refer to Paddy later on, you know who I'm talking about. Okay, sure. That's a twist I didn't see coming today.

But to try and understand what happened that day and whether this footage really is genuine or not, let's tell the untold story of Gimlin and Patterson. Roger Patterson was a renaissance man. Even before his name was immortalized forever in this Patterson footage, he already had an interesting life as a boxer, then rodeo riding before he turned to the outdoors. That's quite a career path. Yeah, again, there's something about this whole era that I just pictured this all happening

in like the 1800s, not 1967. Like to think that Jimi Hendrix was about to take to Woodstock during the Summer of Love just two years after that footage. Yeah, 1967 is far too late to have a career that involves boxing and being a rodeo clown. Yeah, what were his jobs before that? Circus freak, oil driller. Yeah, just very Wild West jobs. Yeah, I'm pretty sure we were already

mining Bitcoin at this point. And by the time they shot this movie, he had already been a long-time Bigfoot hunter. He had spent long periods searching for this cryptid in the area in question and knew the location pretty well. He became interested in Bigfoot in the 1950s when he stumbled across a magazine article by Ivan T. Sanderson in True Magazine. This noted biologist and cryptozoologist described an elusive ape-like animal living almost completely undetected in the forests of Northern California and the Pacific Northwest.

The theory seemed to build off of Native American legends of such a creature that already existed for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Patterson then got wind of some alleged Bigfoot footprints and in 1966 he traveled to the area and later would publish a book titled Do Abominable Snowmen of America Really Exist? Oh wow, so this was maybe at a time where Bigfoot and Sasquatch were kind of mixed up with the Yeti, which I think now are known to be kind of distinctive paranormal creatures. Yeah, I think it's probably fair to say the

field of Bigfoot study has broadened. Right. And I think even here on this podcast we tend to split them up a little bit. Like I think me and you are, I don't want to scare anyone off here, but I think we're noted Bigfoot skeptics and yet two men who have given a double yes to the existence of the Skunk Ape. Right. We're such professionals when it comes to identifying these creatures that Kit saw the Patterson footage and he was like, well, as you can see, these are actually the breasts

are 34C, which means this is a female Sasquatch.atch you know some people would have just seen it and they wouldn't have even looked at the breasts they would have just looked at the creature and screamed but we're professionals this particular specimen seems to have had implantation I believe these are not naturals ladies and gentlemen the creature is natural but the breasts are anything but. This self-published book of Patterson's collected all the newspaper articles from the time and combined them with some of his own speculation about the beast. So already by 1966, it was clear that if anyone knew the stories of this beast, knew where

to look and knew how to hunt Bigfoot. It was Patterson. What I'm trying to say is he was really about this life. This is only crazy news to me because up until this point, I always assumed that Patterson was just an explorer or a hunter who stumbled upon this creature and got this footage. I didn't realize the mother lived and breathed Bigfoot. It's understandable. I've been learning a lot about this whole lore and it just goes

to show I don't think anyone really knows anything about Patterson. Despite his name being so famous, the film itself, the footage has eclipsed anything else in his life that he would have been known by. And yeah, we think of like Bigfoot obsession, professional Bigfoot hunters being extremely modern, you know, guys who kind of make their living making discovery channel programs. He was doing this all the way back in 1967. That is crazy, isn't it? You assume this footage inspired a generation

of Bigfoot hunters. But this footage was found by a Bigfoot hunter who'd been hunting Bigfoot for years. I mean, the other cool side of that is that's how famous Bigfoot already was. I mean, even in this early, early stage, when all there was was chatter, rumor, allegations, sightings. There were already books being published, people being fascinated by the creature. We really should have found him by now. If it's been, we've been hunting for this many years.

Maybe we did, Roy, that day, but with the Patterson footage. Enter, moving on swiftly, enter Bob Gimlin. Bob was an old school friend of Patterson's. Now Bob joined him in October of 1967, when Patterson was drawn to the Bluff Creek area, due to an increase in alleged Bigfoot sightings. It's an extremely cool atmosphere. I love, because on this Paranormal Life we travel

metaphorically through the podcast to so many amazing locations and times in history, this is a really cool one I will say. I love the idea of, maybe I've played too much Red Dead Redemption in my life, but I love the idea of two dusty explorers turning up to a log cabin in the middle of the Pacific Northwest ordering two shots of whiskey at the bar and asking the bartend, have been any silence of the beast lately? And he's polishing the glass, he's like, I think you want to talk to that fella over there in the corner. A guy who looks weirdly like Aragorn from The Lord of the Rings, hood up, tankard of ale, and everyone's sharing woodland stories of the beast. Oh yeah, he lights his cigarette with a gun, shoots the tip.

Shade into the air. Yeah, this guy's a bad motherf***er. So with a plan to hunt for the beast, the pair drove in Gimlin's truck to Six Rivers National Forest, where they parked and trekked further into the forest on horseback. Ah, this is it? What do you mean? Don't you just think if you were a Sasquatch, this would be where you'd want to hang out? Bob, what the f**k are you talking about?

This would be where you'd wanna hang out. Bob, what the fuck are you talking about? Sometimes I think Bigfoot's got the right idea. Roaming free, no bills, no clothes, no responsibilities, butt naked in God's country. The mountain air's got to your head. You just don't like your wife and kids, that's what I think. Whoa, whoa, what's wrong, girl?

Jesus, she spooked. What is it? Patterson, look." There, at the exact same time they saw what spooked the horses, there was something in the distance, crouching. Patterson jumped down immediately to grab his camera, and he uttered those famous words from the start of the episode, Bob, cover me. Whilst the pair had both agreed beforehand that they didn't intend to shoot and kill Bigfoot, the unfamiliar situation of the encounter required precautions and Gimlin readied his hunting rifle. Just to be on the safe side. They're gonna shoot him. No, they're just...

Because they don't... Hey, he's... I think the idea is, he's closer than they were anticipating. They were anticipating maybe seeing some, a Russell in the distance. Bigfoot crept up on them. So they crept up to him. They closer than they think they rode up to him.

Bigfoot's eating a bowl of porridge. Like, oh shit, what the where'd you guys come from? I love that idea. It's like, well, both men agreed that they would not shoot the creature. 45 minutes on the open road had made them snacky. And he looked pretty delicious.

They both agreed not to shoot the creature. But Bob understood the look in Patterson's eyes, pulled out the pistol and started firing wildly. And even though Patterson said, Bob, what the f*** are you doing? Stop. Bob knew Patterson was very scared and he needed to be saved. Gimlin did actually later state that he wished he had shot the animal because then everyone would have believed him.

Wow. Well, just then, they shot the beast in another way by rolling that 16mm cine cam and capturing the immortal film known as the Paterson footage until they lost sight of the beast altogether. They hit him with that 16mm instead of that 8mm. And then you're gonna like this bit Rory. As if capturing the footage wasn't enough, they actually quickly returned to their campsite to get plaster. So that they could get a plaster cast of the beasts footprints.

Right. They rushed back to the river and got casts of those footprints left in the clearing. Look, hey, it's funny to laugh at these men and say that they were chasing fairy tales in the wood, but if you go out into the forest and you see something squatting... If you go into the forest today, you're sure for a big surprise. Cause what animal in the world of animals in the mother nature's kingdom, crouches nothing, nothing. They know how to hit that call of duty crouched to go off the radar.

Yeah. That's suspicious. Imagine you just saw a donkey squatting. You would shoot it in the head immediately. What are you hiding from? Exactly. What are you squatting from? Imagine you went out into the woods and you saw a badger perched on a rock.

Unless they're taking a shit. That's the only reason animals normally squat. But I don't think they do even squat. They just let it go. They just let it ride, yeah. They just let it rip. It's crazy. Have you ever seen a cow piss and shit?

It just, it doesn't even stop eating. I don't even think. It just keeps chewing. I don't even think they know sometimes it's happening. There's just shit coming out of them. You gotta just hope you're not standing behind the thing. It's a great point. It's a great point. It's a great point because we should say now that that footage, it's very human-like. It's

arguably a lot more human than probably anyone was expecting. The type of walk, the completely upright walking position, and now we're hearing it was crouched. There is very human elements to this. I mean, Bigfoot is known as some to be potentially the missing link of human evolution. That thing looks like the missing link is 99% human. Brother, it ain't a link. It is human. It's not a gap in between.

In another world, we could see this thing walking with a briefcase and a copy of the New York Times. Roy, let's just quickly, because I don't think I'd ever seen it before. Let's just quickly look at the plaster casts they got of Bigfoot's footprints that day. Whoa, all right. Because I know you said they went out with plaster to try and get casts. They came back with proper casts.

This is remarkable. These are enormous footprints. Footprints that look even bigger than the feet of the thing in the footage. We're talking a size 32, conservatively. It's a flipper. Look at the toes! And almost... It's like golf balls! Almost like the Patterson image or images themselves,

you kind of have to like reset your brain to realize that yes, they look cartoonish. They look cartoonish because these are so famous. We've seen these be recreated in Scooby-Doo episodes, documentaries, memes, and all the popular media since 1967. They all stem from this. This is the template of what Bigfoot's feet are supposed to look like. Hey, I get it. Those are big feet. Yeah. This is the template of what Bigfoot's feet are supposed to look like. Hey, I get it.

Those are big feet. Yeah. I get the name for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clues in the name. This is also the first time I'm seeing a picture of Roger and his buddy. I assumed that the first time I would see them,

they would be in denim overalls with a bit of hay coming from their mouth and a butt flap kind of hanging open, endlessly pooing like a cow. Rude, rude, rude, rude. These look like two pretty well put together gentlemen. They look like they could be scholars. Yeah, you know their style,

whichever one's on the left, he's looking like a young James Dean. He's got the lovely slick back hair, a little turtleneck sweater. Yeah, they look put together, I would agree. I know you forget that they were reasonably young-ish at that point. Now, the men had their footage shipped

for development that very evening. And after one night on the campsite, they left the next day during heavy rainstorms. In the following days, as news spread of the sighting, numerous outdoorsmen, rangers and taxidermists visited the clearing, seeing the now gradually disintegrating footprints for themselves, which is one cool thing other people rather than just Patterson and Gimlin saw the footprints. Yeah.

Both the men maintained the veracity of this footage over their entire lives, which for Patterson sadly wasn't that long. He died in 1972, five years later. Oh shit, how did he die? I don't know, I think he got sick. Let's find out. Yeah, died of cancer in 1972 at 38 years old. As I said, they were pretty young, wow. And despite minor inconsistencies in their stories, largely their retellings of the events of that fateful day were the same. But of course, from the very beginning

of this story spreading, people accused Patterson and Gimlin of hoaxing the whole thing. So today, Rory, we have to use our brains for the first time in our stupid lives to try and figure out whether we think this footage is real or not. Okay, I like this. We are reopening the case to possibly close it once and for all. At the end of every episode of this paranormal life, we decide whether that case is true or not. Today is less about Bigfoot itself, the nature of the paranormal means we are probably going today is less about Bigfoot itself, the nature of the paranormal means

we are probably going to be talking about Bigfoot till we're as old as F***ing Gimlin, who I don't know if he's still around, but he was pretty old by the end. We're going to be talking about Bigfoot forever. But today I think we can talk about just the Patterson footage itself. Okay. Which is a huge slice of paranormal history. Now thankfully, we're not on our own. We do have help in the form of people smarter than us. Because, you know, if you're curious about the story,

I recommend, you know, even just jumping on the Wikipedia page for the Patterson footage, because there is a long list of smart people who've tried to analyze this. We're talking movement experts, anthropologists, primatologists, experts in photography. Everyone who has kind of two cents on this footage has chimed in over the last 50 plus years. Yeah, that's the nice thing about Bigfoot. You know, when you're investigating UFOs, there's hundreds, multiple hundreds of cases and incidents where people have seen something had an experience

Claimed to be abducted with Bigfoot. It's kind of this It's really this yeah, so it's like all right. Well should we look into Bigfoot again? Yeah We'll look at that footage. How long is it a minute all right cool. It's pretty convenient in terms of yeah Yeah, I mean it is true. I think like if you are a Bigfoot hunter, I'd absolutely die hard. I'm sure the kind of hipster Bigfoot hunters who've been researching Bigfoot before it was cool, they'll say, brother, the Patterson footage,

you know, oh, that's nothing. You've got to see the Genkelmeyer footage. Right, yeah. No one's seen it. It's in a vault in Germany. And you got to, you got to, it's like a, like the coolest nightclub, right? It's like, oh, not everyone can see it.

Not everyone can get in. I'm sure there's a lot of footage out there. But for all intents and purposes, this is the most famous one. So I think this is a great place to start. Bigfoot was actually the commander of a Nazi submarine that was dispatched to Antarctica to find the hollow earth. So you're like, all right. Yeah.

I mean, that there are wilder Bigfoot stories in that. I mean, we talked about Bigfoot quite recently in a couple of cases. And bro, there's dudes that think he's interdimensional. There's dudes that think he's an alien. There are every... We don't talk about them a lot. If you can think of a Bigfoot theory, it exists, really. But a lot of what we have to go on with this-

He'd be smarter. Sorry to interrupt. If he was an interdimensional creature, he wouldn't be just walking around naked in the woods, presumably eating bugs and rats. He'd be floating six inches off the ground like Magneto. Yeah, he'd be omnipotent. He could make bananas hover into his mouth. He wouldn't have to forage in the dirt.

One of the biggest things we have to go off here is, let's face it, it's a 60 second piece of footage of a thing walking. So the walk and the look and the style of the creature is a lot of what we have to go on. So a lot of people have dialed in to the walk itself because the elephant in the room here is, is this walk a human in a suit and

This is a hoax or is this as yet undiscovered creature some distant cousin of the great apes Yes, and I know a lot of you might not have seen the footage Yet, so let me tell you that guy walks like a dude in a suit Well, you know he does though, Right. I mean, for sure does. At first glance, I would agree. As a layman, I would agree. It's very human-like. But I think you'll see a little skip and a hop at 34 seconds in. What could he do? What could he do to make that not a human walk? It's 60 seconds long and he walks. He's not like doing the weird movement from Dune

to not activate the sand worms. He's walking straight. It's not that crazy. You would think. You would think. And I'd be right. You would think. Okay, no, sorry.

Look, tell me why you think that's not a human walk. I'm borderline on your side that it feels reasonably cut and dry to me. Because this is not my level of expertise, I'd be focusing on probably other things. Like let's say, does it look like a gorilla suit? What's the character reference of these men? Was it likely they were trying to perform a hoax?

Things like we talk about, have they cashed in on it after the fact? But people who are experts in this kind of stuff, like there was an interesting study at Stanford where scientists Jessica Rose and James Gamble, who were kind of experts in movement. In 1994, they looked into this, trying to slow down the footage,

try and recreate this from the point of view. If this is a man in an eight foot tall gorilla suit, would it be possible to recreate this? I don't think that's a real qualification by the way, calling yourself an expert in movement. No, it absolutely is. That's not. That's something that 14-year-old Rory would have declared before moving into the center

of a dance circle at his local high school. I'm kind of an expert in movement. And then he'd fail to perform the worm. Do one wriggle faceplant, hit my head on the wooden floor and black out in the worm. Yeah. Do one wriggle faceplant hit my head on the wooden floor and blackout in the middle of everyone. My daughter was actually at a kid's disco recently, by the way, and I was very heartened to see a nine-year-old boy perform the worm

in the middle of the dance floor. It was just, it gladdened my heart to know that the worm has not died, because that was a big part of my childhood. Yeah. Because wasn't there a WWE star who would do the worm? Oh, really? Yeah, I don't remember whose special move that was a big part of my childhood. Yeah. Because wasn't there a WWE star who would do the worm? Oh, really? Yeah.

I don't remember whose special move that was, but you, he would do the worm and then like body slam his opponent. That's not necessarily an animal. I think a wrestler would want to be associated with worms. I mean, there's so many to choose from. It was do like the tiger and jump from the top rope and slash your opponent. I had to look it up. It was Scotty 2 Hoddy. Scotty 2 Hoddy's specialty was the worm.

Right. OK. So his identity wasn't... It wasn't a wrestler called the worm. No. Because he ain't getting a belt. You can't even put it on the slippery mother****. Well, when I say he did the worm, he didn't wriggle around the ground literally like a worm. He did the popular dance move. The dance move.

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missing link. Remains have been discovered of a creature that most resembles Bigfoot, and that is the species called Gigantopithecus. Gigantopithecus is a primate from the Pleistocene era. It was believed to have gone extinct about 300,000 years ago. An ancestor of modern-day orangutans, Gigantopithecus is thought to be the largest primate to ever live on Earth.

Gigantopithecus was enormous. Its teeth were of such proportion that we estimate its body mass to be on the order of 800 to 1200 pounds. We're talking about a 10-foot animal, and when people describe seeing Bigfoot, the sheer mass and size of it leads some people to believe that Gigantopithecus, or a relic version of it,

is Bigfoot. Maybe it's evolved to be a little bit smaller, a little bit more nimble, or we're just not seeing the big boys. And all we're seeing are the females. That is Bigfoot, that beast. Yeah, that thing is huge. It is a f***ing giant.

It actually reminds me tremendously of the Skunk Ape, because if you remember that in the Skunk Ape episode, we got pictures by the end. That was part of what pushed us over the edge into believing with it. That motherf***er looked exactly like the Skunk Ape. I mean, the pictures we just saw there of this creature, you know, it's interesting to note though,

the hands on that thing basically went down to its ankles, which we definitely didn't see in the Patterson footage. The Patterson footage, it does look a lot more like either Gorilla or like a guy in a monkey suit. Yeah, that's right. And they did bring that up. It's possible that the Bigfoot we're seeing is like a evolution of that, right?

Yeah. And it's like, okay, this is the last giant monkey that existed on earth. Is there now something that's kicking about that is a descendant of that? Can you imagine being a creature where the start of your name is Gigantus? You would assume you don't have to evolve.

I guess that's what happened with these monkeys. They were like, all the other monkeys are like, hey, everyone's evolving by the way, like growing fingers and losing their tails and shit. Do you guys want to do that as well? They're like, us? Gigantopithecus? I think we'll be fine. You guys evolve.

Yeah, go make your little iPhones and drink your lattes. We'll be, monkeys are gonna live forever. And they didn't evolve and they died. Yeah, it's like telling Charizard to evolve. It's like, bitch. I am the evolution. I'm shiny. Yeah. I'm a shiny Charizard.

I'm the end of the game. Yes. Maybe in a couple million years, you guys will turn into Gigantispithecus. They're like, you can't even say your own name gigantikaspsychus. You're riddled with so many evolutionary flaws. Okay so it's possible this thing is a distant relation of gigantipithecus or of humans and is real and certainly it seems like the scientific evidence for the Patterson footage not being real is inconclusive.

People are kind of arguing about that over the years Let's look at the evidence. I guess for it being a hoax. Is there anything to suggest? This is not real. Some skeptics say that elements of the story just kind of don't add up For example the time that it took to develop the film in the first place Didn't seem to match up with Patterson's version of events. The nature of that 16mm film should have taken quite a while and would have been labour intensive. Skeptics argued that the story already appeared in papers before the men would really have had time to develop the footage. Suggesting it's possible the whole thing happened at an earlier date than they were letting on. It should be noted, Patterson was arrested immediately after he saw Bigfoot.

Okay, that ain't good. It was because he had rented his 16mm film camera and he held onto it for longer than he had agreed to rent it for, so he was arrested on the spot. The charges were later dropped, but some felt it coloured him as a dishonest character. Right, that's not too bad. were later dropped, but some felt it colored him as a dishonest character. Right, that's not too bad. It wasn't like he was trying to return a used gorilla suit without a receipt. That would have been a little more suspicious. Well, you do say that, Rory, but one major cause for concern in the whole story

is a project that Patterson and Gimlin were working on about six months prior to this footage coming out. In around May or June of 1967 Patterson began filming a docudrama or a pseudo documentary about cowboys being led by an old miner and a wise Native American tracker on a hunt for a Bigfoot. The storyline called for Patterson and his Native American guide, which was Gimlin in a wig. And the cowboys to recall via flashbacks the stories of Fred Beck and the 1924 Ape Canyon incident. And the story we covered on this podcast, a pretty cool story. I really don't like the direction this is trending.

For actors and cameramen, Patterson used about nine volunteer acquaintances, including Gimlin, for three days of shooting. Patterson would have needed a costume to represent Bigfoot. Of course. Yeah, so just before they filmed and released the Patterson footage, he was shooting a fake movie in the woods with the guy he saw with that involved a person in a Bigfoot costume. Just so we're clear on all the facts. But like, you know, they never made the movie. They never made the movie. They never made the movie. So oh, they made the movie. It was the Patterson footage. What? I don't follow that at all. What? That's crazy. That is not good. That is bad. That is not

at all what I don't know who I thought Patterson was when we went into this. Hey, look, have you ever seen the Netflix documentary? What's it called? Icarus or some shit? Yes, I have. Yes. Great documentary, by the way. Great documentary, yeah. You know, sometimes that's a movie where a guy goes to make a movie about doping and cycling, and then he accidentally uncovers

the Russian Olympic doping scandal. Sometimes you go to make a documentary about a big monkey, and then, oh shit, the monkey turned up on day one of filming. Yeah, you've shot like three scenes before you turn around and see your buddy in the monkey suit You're like oh shit

Patterson steps out of his trailer starts rolling the camera alright Bob if we could get you out there for for scene one Oh Bob shit brother this the costume looks amazing dude alright. Oh keep doing that Oh, this is oh, he's going method on this shit, Bro, oh, keep going, keep going. This is gold. This is gold. Bob, you're working it. You are working it. Bob walks behind Patterson, taps him on the shoulder. Bob, I don't think the helmet fits so good on the costume. Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, just being like, yeah, so the script actually said we just need you to walk into frame very slowly You killed and ate a live rabbit on camera. I don't know how we're gonna work that into the movie So I'm not sure that's gonna work Bob Bob. This is this is a bad look for the guys

I would say but Rory the Bigfoot costume was never found The movie was never released, and the guys did uphold their story until the day that they died. I will say, as a final point, one strange, interesting point was, in an interview, I believe in the 2000s, Bob Gimlin said, hey, I've believed my whole life.

I've always believed in this story and believed in what we saw. He said, as I've believed my whole life. I've always believed in this story and believed in what we saw. He said, as I've gotten older, I've opened up a little bit to the idea it was a hoax. But strangely, he said, it's possible that Patterson did hoax me along with everybody else. But if he did, it would have had to be a bloody good job. Yeah. Yeah. And he would have risked the person in the suit getting shot in the head too, which is a pretty big risk to take, I would say. Yeah, I just found that

interesting. It was a fun little twist of the whole thing. It is entirely possible that that's part of the confusion, was that it was only Patterson was in on the hoax, if it was a hoax. Right, yeah, that would have been dark if Patterson like put his cousin in the suit and was like, look Bob, I think in the bushes over there we can see the... Bob shoots it in the back of the head. Got him! We got him! We're gonna be famous! Quickly, let's go over and skin the beast to get a sample of the fur. He's gone completely white. Patterson's like, I'm never gonna be able to return that suit. Oh shit.

I know Gimlin's standing over the corpse. He just sees a zipper on the back of the suit. Oh shit. Oh damn. Paterson, I think that we may be accident. He turns around, Paterson's running. He's trying to cross the border to Mexico. Um, yeah. So much of this just doesn cross the border to Mexico. Um, yeah, this is...

So much of this just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe, you know what? I feel like we're heading into conclusions. With all of this information in my mind fresh now, can we re-watch the footage? Yes, of course. That would be great. Let's fast-forward for the audios.

I don't know what they're talking about. One thing that jumps out to me as believable is when you get into the experts debating whether this is true or not, and I wasn't making that up earlier, we were talking like the executive of Disney Corporation was interviewed in 1969 about the Patterson footage. And like these people are being like, we couldn't do this.

If you give us all the money in the world, we couldn't do this. Simply, but stay with me, because they were like, the suit't do this. If you gave us all the money in the world, we couldn't do this. Simply, but stay with me, because they were like, the suit's too good. Like, they were like, our technicians can't make a monkey suit like that. So this is the kind of weeds you get into is- I just don't believe that.

Is a lot of people have said like, the suit is weirdly perfect. And even watching that again, the range of movement of like the hands and stuff, it is incredibly fluid and it's incredibly lifelike. And I think that's why it stood the test of time. What I would argue is if our best argument is the suit is too good, we might have lost the argument.

Potentially, I do think it's really interesting. And you're rarely going to hear me say this in this paranormal life, Rory. But sometimes we do have to think of Occam's razor. What's more likely that a creature has existed undetected for a quarter of a million years, known as gigantopithecus, without a single body turning up or ever being found, and then is one day captured on camera by Patterson,

or that he somehow got a really good gorilla suit. Like, is it that unbelievable? Like, I understand it's pretty unbelievable that they had a really amazing suit, but that's still more likely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the chance, the one in a million chance of a needle in a haystack evolutionary spin-off

from the monkey world was spotted by these two guys. That is very very rare The alternative being the guy who's a self-proclaimed Bigfoot hunter who was just days ago Shooting a movie about Bigfoot that probably required a Bigfoot costume him Just seeing it and filming this himself. That is probably the most likely of the two. Occam's razor strikes again Rory at the end of every episode of this paranormal life, we have to come down a conclusion

as to whether we believe our paranormal tale is real or not. We have just dissected the Patterson footage really beyond where it needs to be dissected. Do you think this is a yes or a no today about whether it's real? You just said it. You just summed up this whole episode in one sentence. Because this is really the only, well, the most popular footage of Bigfoot

in the paranormal world, and it's only 60 seconds long, it's been dissected beyond the point that it needed to be, where people are breaking down the tiniest little aspects or movements. Whereas we don't do that with other cases, with other photographs, with other videos of the paranormal because there's so much more out there to talk about and look at.

And it's longer than 59 seconds. So I think probably one reason why this footage has so much coverage is because people, so many people have looked at it over the years. I will say today's episode was probably a little bit closer than I thought it was. I thought probably outright I was gonna give this one a no. But I can see why people say the conclusion is inconclusive. Especially if they've done a lot of experiments and looked into this footage.

But for me today, we've just seen better than this. That's the truth. This might have been the original, but we've seen better since this. Better proof of the paranormal existing in our world. So unfortunately today I'm going to give it a no. Oof. It is one no from Rory on the case of the Patterson footage. I think for me it is the same thing. This is not a referendum on Bigfoot, but I agree with you, Ror. I feel like what you're saying is you can dissect and dissect and dissect a piece of footage.

Sometimes you just got to go with the bleeding obvious, which is you take a... I think the average person in the street, you show them that off-rip. I think the average person says that's a man in a gorilla suit. Yeah, not to throw back another Olympics comparison, but you know, I saw a video the other day that was comparing the Olympics 50, 60 years ago to the Olympics now. And back then, 50, 60 years ago,

some of the gymnastics events, it was like a guy and he'd do a handstand and the handstand would last like four seconds and then he'd come down and people would be like, 10, 10 out of 10, 10 out of 10. He had a gut. He like put out his cigarette right before he did the handstand. Right, yeah. He was 46 years old.

It was like, it was not in shape. Yeah, the French dude did a forward roll. Someone just kind of twirled around 10 times and then stood still. That was that's what was competing in the gymnastics event. Now today you have all these gymnasts doing crazy tricks, you know, flipping six times in the air and that's kind of what's happened in the world of paranormal evidence. Cameras have gotten so much better that now when we're looking at these creatures and these stories there's so much more to analyze when we're looking at these creatures and these stories

there's so much more to analyze. But at the time this is all they had. Just a dude walking in a line in the woods. I hear you Rory and I couldn't agree more that the famous footage of the skunk ape walking through the Florida Everglades that brought me to tears as well brother and I know you believe that one too. That was a bad example. That was high definition and that walk no one could recreate because if you remember the grass was too tall for him to walk that fast so that was a great piece of evidence. Dude it's only so funny when you compare cryptid evidence to like UFO evidence. Cause UFO evidence will look at an object

in the night sky and it'll be like, so yes, I will admit the object moved at a speed impossible to comprehend making zero noise and turned at a right angle in midair and then kind of just disappeared into nothing instantaneously. But it's just not enough, I think, today, to say that it's definitely paranormal. Yeah, and even though it would be literally impossible

to hoax because no one has access to that technology, and even the military says they don't have that kind of technology. Yeah, it's still a double no this week. And then in our cryptid cases, it's like, no, you don't get it, he was walking on mud. No human could have walked on that type of mud Cryptid cases it's like no you don't get it. He was walking on mud No human could have walked on that type of mud that quickly

So it's a double yes this week It's crazy how different it is shit But it is a no from me this week. That is only our independent opinion and As I say check out what other people think. We are not the smartest people to ever tackle this case. But we do spend a lot of time thinking about the paranormal. Almost 400 episodes. We're allowed to cover this case because we're not smart people.

You know, our talents aren't any use anywhere else. We'd only be a hindrance if we tried to contribute to society in any other way. Look, sometimes after getting every expert on the case, sometimes you need to just ask the village idiot and see what he thinks. Yeah. Man on the street, Joe Bloggs. That's what we do here at This Part of My Life.

We cover a different case every week. We've done 400 main episodes almost. We've done hundreds more over on Patreon, which is so twisted to say. The whole village is talking about this creature and they're like, look, I know it's a little unorthodox, I know it's outside the box, but let's ask the village idiot. Maybe in his twisted mind, he can find the answers that were right in front of us and we couldn't see.

They're like, Derek, what do you think the creature was? Derek hits him with a rock. Oh, you dumb mother f***. No one talked to him ever again. He's just stupid. Yeah, I like the idea of that guy is the guy who sees the beast as well. Like, right, isn't that like the twist in the M. Night Shyamalan movie or something? Is like, there would be like a blind kid.

Oh, yeah. And the Sasquatch would walk right up to him and the blind kid wouldn't be able to see him or something. And he'd be like, oh my God. Yeah. Or he appears in front of the mute and he can't say what he saw. So he's just making monkey poses,

but everyone just thinks he's crazy. As I said, if you love the discussion of Bigfoot, if you're one of those people who just can't get enough Bigfoot, I do recommend that Skunk Ape episode. It is in the back catalogue of this paranormal life. It came out about a year or so ago. I recommend checking that one out.

But if you want just more fantastic cryptids, please head over to patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life where not only can you skip the bullshit you heard at the beginning of the podcast where we talked up the ads for a while, you can get many, many other cool rewards, can't you? Yeah, you absolutely can. It's funny you mention the ads again because I think in this episode, we got so wrapped up in the ads at the start, we never actually broke and did an ad point in the middle.

Well, we did, Rory. They heard an ad, but you don't need to talk about it. You don't need to talk about it. You talked so much about the ads in the beginning, I didn't want to give you f*** and a rope to hang yourself with in the middle of the episode. So you didn't even mention that there were going to be ads at any point in the second half just so that I couldn't protest. But to all the listeners, they kind of came out of nowhere, they were blindsided. Which is fine. Yeah, because then they don't actually have time to fast forward. See, they want to fast forward this. They want to fast forward this, whatever this is.

That's the problem. That's the real problem. Okay. Well, hey, head on over to patreon.com, as I said, and you don't even... Well, you'll have to hear this, because this is part of the main episode. I wish it weren't. You don't have to hear any of those pesky little ads. But also do listen to the ads,

because the ads pay for the show. Oh, wow. So that actually helps us too. Okay, so let's stop talking about ads for once. There's bonus episodes, there's monthly bonus episodes, full length episodes of This Paranormal Life, there's weekly after party, behind the scenes catch ups with me and Rory shooting the shit,

and as well as merchandise shout outs as well, here at the end of the show. Yeah. Actually, to make things even more confusing, in one of our recent Patreon exclusive episodes, we actually did do ads on the podcast because I was advertising my new phone application that I had released publicly. It was in beta at the time, but now it is, it is publicly released.

Do you remember this? It was an app called Mother's Day. I wish I didn't, yeah. It was an app called Mother's Day that just now and again reminds you, call your mom. When was the last time you texted your mom? It'll just send you a little ping alert. Many downloads in that one.

16 so far, but that was for the beta. So we're opening it up. And of course, as you know, it goes in hand in hand with its partner app, Dial-A-Daddy. Yeah. And you can, you can use that app to once again, zero so far, zero so far. But I'm hoping if it connects with the right community, it's going to blow up. Yeah. I don't think that even conforms with Apple's terms of service on the app store.

It just seems wrong. It seems bad. It's going to blow up. Yeah, I don't think that even conforms with Apple's terms of service on the app store. It just seems wrong, seems bad. There is so much on Patreon, including questionable apps built by Rory. You can probably get that one at github.com right now. Head on over there to get that. Rory, I say we close out with a couple of shout-outs for our homies at Patreon. Let's do it. So special thank you to Kate from Nova.

Yo, Kate from the Nova Star System. Hello. We haven't heard from them in a while. That's crazy. You see, the problem is messages from the Nova Star System take about 30 years to reach here. Oh, yikes. So Kate wasn't a spring chicken either when we last saw her. So I don't know if Kate's still around.

She is long gone gone I would say. But I hope Kate if you're kind of on life support somewhere in a cryogenically frozen in some sort of goo yeah ideally in the Nova star system then I hope things are well hope the hope the sea is still purple and I hope the sky is still brown and because the star system is beautiful. Think of all the think of all the podcasts you got to catch up on when you wake up. You're in for a treat. Thanks to balls. Yeah, I'm not surprised the balls is picked this month to kind of support us on Patreon because balls stock went up during the Olympics.

Right. Not not a lot of interest in balls. People ignoring the balls up until the Olympics, but not balls? Bro, that's like Nvidia stock. Bro, both hands full. Yeah, they're in high demand. Sports balls, footballs, every kind of sport balls, basketballs. You need your balls. So, hey. Look after your balls.

Happy for you. Wish I had gotten the insider trading tip, to be quite honest. To invest in holes But hey, I guess there's always four years from now Thanks also to Thomas Hansen Thomas Hansen or as they call him on the streets Thomas handsome Looks like handsome Squidward Wow chiseled jaw chiseled abs chiseled from marble. Yeah, that's right. He's a statue Oh,, he's not a real person now He just lives in this in the town square. He probably died like 200 years ago or something How did he support us on patreon? It's a really great question. That's yeah, it's kind of mysterious when you think about it He's made of marble. Yeah, it's like it's like

Michael Angelo's David tuning in yeah, I think he's on the $50 tier. He's got a coin. How does that figure? So, but hey, I would do the same thing. If I was getting a marble statue made of me, I'd lie. Yeah. I'd lie, give myself a six pack. Right, here, if you got two choices in this world

to be handsome and made of marble, or ugly and made of flesh, I'm taking marble. Right, kill me now. Incase me in marble. Thanks lastly today to Amartya Agrabol. A bit like the Patterson footage. You ever seen the Amartya footage? No, what is that? Yeah, it's I would say equally important,

but nothing to do with the paranormal, by the way. It was just Amartya left their camera on or they didn't realize they were live streaming whenever they were doing some pretty embarrassing lip-syncing videos in their bathroom mirror. Yikes! But it's kind of taken on a viral life of its own you know millions of views. Right. Be a Martia footage. Disney execs have looked at the footage and have declared they could never render anything this embarrassing, even with computers. Even with the team that's behind Disney Pixar's Inside Out 2,

they couldn't do shit. So, Mart, yeah, chin up, you know? We all do embarrassing things, and I'm sure, look, yes, this will outlive you, and that's what your name will always be known for, but like, hey, you could do anything with your life. You're gonna be turned to marble. You're gonna be put into town square doing these those embarrassing poses. Yeah.

So good luck. Never be able to listen to the Backstreet Boys again. Amartya thank you so much thank you to everyone who have supported us this month on patreon and every month you make this paranormal life possible. I hope you're not too bummed out that it's a double no on the Patterson footage but we were gonna be back with more compelling cases that I'm sure will be a double yes from next week. We will. Ciao bella.

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