This Paranormal Life - #393 The Time an Alien Artifact Crashed to Earth

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

In 1985, Bob White and his 'lady friend' were driving to Las Vegas when they noticed a glowing light fall off of a strange object and crash down to earth. Bob should have kept driving... but something about this object made him want to investigate. When he arrive at the location of the crash there was no doubt that this thing... WAS EXTRATERRESTRIAL. So why did he stash it up in his attic until he retired? We have no idea.Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.comEdited by Philip Shacklady Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Are graveyards basically apartments for ghosts? Can I get married to an alien? If the answer is yes, can I get divorced from an alien? All of these questions you can find the answer to on THIS PARANORMAL LIFE! Hello everyone and welcome back to This Paranormal Life, the comedy paranormal podcast where every week we investigate a brand new paranormal tale and come to the conclusion to decide once and for all whether or not it is true or it is false.

And they're not really brand new. Most of them are pretty old. They're brand new to us and hopefully our listeners. At least one of us. Yeah. Yes. Because we've been doing this show now for seven years. And once you're onto year seven, you're not talking about Bigfoot anymore.

All right. You're talking about Bigfoot's weird cousin, Keith, whose borderline, not even a monster, but he's kind of weird. It doesn't sound good. No, it's still, it's still interesting. I'm sorry. That was a bad example. Um, UFOs.

Cousin Keith, is that what he said? You know, early on the podcast, he was a guy. He was christened Keith. Take a different example, okay? Early on the podcast, we usually, we would have covered Roswell, you know, famous stories of UFOs crashing to earth. Sure. We've done Roswell. We've done them all now. So we're talking about- Well, we haven't. We're talking about Bigfoot's cousin Keith. Oh, we're back to Keith? Yeah, it's actually going to be a two-parter today. It's really exciting. Big Keith sounds like he sells Fords, you know, in rural Arkansas.

Yeah, sounds like he should be investigated. Kit, do you have any thoughts on today's intro questions? Can I get married to an alien? If so, can I get divorced from an alien? I actually have many questions and I don't want to get into them. So let's pivot to the other one real quick. I know what you're thinking. Our graveyards ghost apartment blocks. I drive by a graveyard pretty regularly and I started thinking about the logistics.

I don't know. I'm not getting that old, but I was like, I was like, how does this, how does this work? I think I was like, they always seem too small. It's not, this isn't a claustrophobia thing. I'm just saying, I'm like, surely we can't be fitting everyone in there, but there is rules to it. Isn't there? It's like you get buried and then after like 50 years or something, then they can like

just press the trap door button and you just kind of get incinerated and they bury someone else in that plot. You are very young to start acknowledging the graveyards in your life. I feel like until you're kind of like 70, graveyards shouldn't really be a thought. You kind of just pass them, maybe you walk through them to get to a pub. Whenever you were growing up on the internet, did you ever come across the recordings of hell that were recorded by a guy who put a microphone down a really deep hole? No, I didn't.

No, I didn't. That sounds like an episode. You know how I said we've run out of episodes to do and it's mostly about Keith? This should be an episode. I need to make that an episode because I was like 14 and I played that shit to my parents and I was like staring them in the eye like, are you hearing this? What are we going to do about this?

They are screaming down there. They are screaming. What are we doing about this? Should we send down like sandwiches or something? They sound hungry. The recording is what you think by the way. It's just... Yeah, it's going to be horrible.

Thousands of screams. Well Kit, today we are not going down into the ground. We're going up into the sky. Really? And then down to the ground again. Yeah, due to the laws of gravity. Yeah. To give you an idea of how intense this paranormal investigation is going to be... I just cracked open a beer.

It was a twisty top, so it wasn't that loud. Yeah that was actually kind of embarrassing. I thought that was gonna be more of like a classic yeah but it just kind of twisted off effortlessly. We're getting distracted but there is an amazing paranormal tale that we are going to investigate and it might not be one of the ones that you've heard of before at one of the headlines and that's because this story is so convincing, so believable, so real that it's been buried. It's been hidden from us.

But we're about to reveal the truth right here on This Paranormal Life, like we do every Tuesday. We're going to get stuck in right after. Quick word from today's sponsors. And a reminder, you can get every episode of this podcast ad free on patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life The year is 1985 and a man named Bob White was driving all the way from Colorado to Las Vegas with Jan his quote-unquote

Lady friend Colorado to Las Vegas is about a 12-hour drive So Bob was catching a little shut-eye while Jan drove them through Denver towards the bright lights of Vegas. But little did they know, those weren't the only bright lights they were going to see this trip. Okay, I'm actually relieved we're not talking about Keith, Bigfoot's cousin. No, completely different story. Only four hours into the journey, Jan shook Bob awake. Bob! Hey Bob! Huh? Huh? What is it? Are we in Vegas?

Bob, what is that thing in the sky? Bob glanced out the window to see a strange glowing orange light, hovering in the sky above the car. Whatever it was, Bob didn't care. All he wanted was a few more hours of sleep before they arrived at the strip. So he replied, It's probably a railroad light or something. And he went back to sleep. But it wasn't long before he was shaken awake again. This time by a much more panicked Jan. Bob, that definitely isn't a railroad light!

Bob looked out the window again to see the bright orange light had grown to the size of the moon! Oh shit! And the closer they got, the closer this thing became. The pair kept driving until they were only a few hundred yards from the object. At this point, Bob decided to turn off the headlights in the engine so they could coast silently closer to this strange object, until they finally pulled over to watch this thing from the side of the road. Bob, I'm scared! What is that thing? Nothing to be afraid of, Jan. Just a strange bright light in the middle of nowhere, hovering without making a sound.

bright light in the middle of nowhere, hovering without making a sound. You stay here, I'll go check it out." Bob left the car and approached the strange orange light. He said it was huge, quote, the size of a very big barn. Attempting to get a better look, Jan turned on the car's headlights, and immediately the object freaked out, jetting up into the sky like a rocket. But before it disappeared into the clouds, it changed shape, morphing into two long blue lights and shooting a smaller third light back down towards the earth. What? This is a lot.

This is a lot. There's a lot going on today and we are moving fast. That's why I'm drinking, brother. We don't have time to slow down!" Bob watched in awe as this third light, a small orange glowing object, fell down from the sky until it landed over the hill right by where they were parked. He didn't know what, but something had fallen off of this UFO. He climbed the hill and on the other side he could see it. A glowing object resting in a crater in the middle of nowhere. He ran back to the car and threw open the trunk, knowing that he had a pair of work

gloves in the back. By the time he returned to the object it was no longer glowing and he could finally see what this thing really looked like. Bob might not have known it at the time, but what he was now holding was extra terrestrial. Kit, I know you're gonna ask, so don't worry. Let's address this right at the start of the episode. Yes, I have a picture of the object. Fantastic, great news.

Let's get started. I'm gonna show Kit a picture of what this thing looked like. This is a very good start to a podcast. You tell me whether or not this thing is extraterrestrial. Whoa! Do you know what this looks like? This looks like, you know those images of like we put a pumpkin seed under a microscope? Right, really close up.

And you see the really like insanely up close textures of things. Or this would be like, this is what COVID looks like under an electron microscope. It's just, it looks, it's black and white and grainy, like it's under a microscope. It's very terrifying. But I assume it is of course not tiny. And this is just a normal size of a thing. Very strange. Almost impossible to describe. It's kind of like somewhere between a bone or a vegetable or some kind of scaly thing.

Yeah, it looks like it's made of dragon skin. Yeah. But kind of shaped like a comet made of brick, I guess. Yeah, I mean, I could see this on the set of alien Romulus. Yeah. It's funny you talking about how scary normal things look under a microscope because that's what started my fear of butterflies. Oh yeah. You ever see a close-up of a butterfly's face? Because everyone thinks moths are the scary ones, right? They're

the evil cadejo to the good butterfly, you know? Have you seen a butterfly's face? Close-up? A butterfly's mugshot? Yeah. Those guys are terrifying. I remember once when I was growing up back in Northern Ireland, and I used to, because I was a cool guy, I used to lift weights in my garage. It could be edible. And there was one day I was bench pressing, you know, probably Metallica pumping through the speakers, feeling really cool, and a butterfly flew into my face mid bench press. I almost died.

I dropped the weights to swat it away and the bar came down on my throat. Ever since then, I am convinced they're trying to kill me. Yeah. It's such a great example of the kind of unconscious impulse to bat a bug away from your face because yeah, you placed yourself in mortal danger just to simply get a bug away from your face. And if anyone had asked me like, what happened? What happened? No one ever suspects the butterfly. They kind of do though. That's why they talk about the butterfly effect. Although I don't know if they were, I think that's about time travelers. I don't

know if they were, yeah, specifically referring to a butterfly landing in your nose while you're bench pressing. Yes. I think the butterfly effect refers to the flap of a butterfly's wings being, in fact, so insignificant. Right. And yet they still cause ripples across time. This is a scientist trying to explain it to me. It's like, yeah, even such a small action

like a butterfly flapping his wings, even that could, and I butt in like, kill a guy? You're saying it can kill a guy like it tried to do me? Did I ever tell you Doc about the butterfly that came for my life? Yeah, because I also got an offender bender last week, commuting, and I think it was a butterfly I hit, probably. There's blood on your car, sir. I once totaled my Toyota because a key went up my nose. The bugs docked. They're coming after me. Now Bob said that at this point in his life, he'd never had any interest in UFOs, to the

point where, even when he recovered this thing, it never even occurred to him that it could be extraterrestrial. He said said quote, I just thought it was some sort of experimental thing the government was working on and it was nobody's business. Well whatever this thing was, it didn't seem like Bob even cared. Instead of getting the object properly investigated, he shelved it in the attic, where it was soon forgotten about.

Until around eight years later, his wife was cleaning out the attic when she uncovered the artifact once again. Now at this point, Bob had completely forgotten he even had the damn thing. But now that he was retired, he had a bit of free time on his hands, and decided he should finally get this thing properly investigated. Yeah, you know, I'm retired now, so less responsibilities during the day. And you know, the item has been incessantly calling to me in the night in particular. So I just want to kind of nip that in the bud. The rock is like, Robert, Robert, it's time to fulfill your destiny.

And Robert's like, yeah, the thing is, though,'ve got an 11.45 that I'm in for, I gotta join a keynote presentation. I'm retiring in three years and I'm gonna be wide open. Schedule's gonna be wide open. So the Rock's like, we could do it in the evening. Doesn't have to be work hours. You don't have to be retired to fulfill your destiny. Really quick, Robert, just do five minutes of your time,

Robert. All you gotta do is push the little button on my side, call the mothership. Would really appreciate my side. Call the mothership. Would really appreciate it if you called the mothership. Sorry, Rog. Johnny's invited me to the match game. All right, we're gonna have to pick this up later. All right, we'll talk soon, Rog.

Robert, goodbye! Yeah, usually I think when you retire, you have a little bit of time to do the things you didn't do in your life, but they're usually boring old people stuff, like digitizing the photo album, replying to Christmas cards and saying, thank you for the presents.

It's usually not finally getting the US military to investigate the artifact you found in the desert. I kind of- Do that now! Don't wait! You don't have to wait until you're 60 to get that done. Rory, you're American. You know what paid time off is like in America.

You can't be using your precious days off work, your precious annual leave, to be sitting around a government office begging someone to take a look at a rock. You got to use it for, I don't know, going to Tijuana. Imagine you finally brought this thing into a laboratory and the scientists are just like, My God, it's the cure to cancer. You discovered it just now? Oh shit. No? Well, we did now.

We discovered it now that it is the cure to cancer. When did I discover the rock? When did I? Um, shit. A while ago, for sure. But, you know, I haven't slapped. I've been, I just retired, you know, Monday. So it was the first time I really got to look at this rock. They're like, we just euthanized 10,000 orphans because they were terminal.

Yesterday, yesterday, Robert, just yesterday. You couldn't have just dropped this off. You didn't even have to be here for the examination. You could have just given it to us. You know, but it probably would have taken a while for you guys to research. No, Robert, you just touched the rock and you're cured. Those who make eye contact with the rock are healed. We can simply film it and broadcast it to the entire world and television in the world to be cured.

Oh, shit. Robert. Well, that's cool now. And I have time to help because I just retired Monday. Did I mention that? So Bob decided to take this object to the Los Alamos National Laboratory, where it was examined by the Materials Science and Technology Division. And Bob has sworn under oath that the conclusions of the test done by a Los Alamos scientist

were that this object was extraterrestrial in origin. Under oath? Did Bob go on to kill a guy? No, I think he's taken multiple lie detection tests in regards to the item to make sure that he was in fact telling the truth. Because yes, he does also say that the same scientist now denies ever saying the first thing. Right, okay. I think if you ask the department there like we never said that it was extraterrestrial and Bob is like well

I passed the lie detection test. Now Bob has said hey, I'm as patriotic as the next guy. I did my stint in the military, and if they told me it was an extraterrestrial, at Los Alamos, that would have been the end of it. But they didn't tell me that. And as always, as rumours of Bob and this strange object began to spread, it slowly became front page news. And meanwhile, Bob White says he knows where his object came from. He wants to know what it is. You may remember late last year we aired a report on White's museum of the unexplained

in Reed Spring. The centerpiece of the museum is an object White says was blown off of an extraterrestrial or possibly an experimental government aircraft. In the 1980s, White and a friend were driving in Colorado at night when they saw bright lights over the highway. The UFO emitted a small flash of light and took off. White says the light was the object which he recovered. White has passed a polygraph test on his story.

Here's the most recent story on the object. The object, over 80% aluminum with rare trace elements and the strength of steel. Bob White found the object. Robert Gibbons, scientist, historian, former aircraft engineer and director of the Museum of the Unexplained. Dr. Gilbert Jordan, physicist, worked on space and top secret military weapons projects. Years ago was shown an object recovered by the military. He says appeared very similar to this one. Pretty crazy stuff, right kid? This seems like a case that the news at the time took

very credibly. Yes, I wasn't expecting it to be metal. I don't know why probably should have if it survived kind of burning up in the atmosphere like that. It just doesn't look messy. It looks organic in nature. Of course, metal can be organic, but I thought maybe like, as I say, it looked woody or something like that. But interestingly, bring up the polygraph test. We now know from other investigations, polygraph tests are kind of bullshit. So it doesn't really matter. Well, they have, you know, they're worth something. Otherwise we'd stop doing them. So we have stopped doing them. They're inadmissible in court. I'm pretty sure.

Oh, shit. OK. Pretty much every country. I'm almost certain. You know, it's something. It's something. But yeah, it was cool that there seemed to be a number of people involved in this case. Yeah, he's bringing other people in because that's what you want to do. You know, this isn't a case where he's saying that he saw the craft or he's saying he saw an object shoot down from the sky. He has it.

He's holding it. Even in that news video, they are showing this object, which I don't know, was that the size you imagined it? Why did he wait so long? Let's just readdress that because I was kind of fine with it at the time and now I have issues with it. Yeah, because he says he was like, oh, well, I didn't want to bring it up because I thought that, you know, it was probably a piece of some sort of government craft. This looks like a dragon's dick.

This thing is wild. This thing did not come from our planet. What on earth would this be used for in a military capacity? Yeah, you know, this might be early in the episode. I'm going to throw out that, you know, there's one similarity here, which is similar to the Trinity UFO case that we covered recently on the podcast, a famous 40s, 1940s UFO case, also one in which the two witnesses were young lads when they came across the evidence,

stole away the piece of the craft, and then sat on it for about 50 years until, what do you know, they retired. A little like Bob. And they needed a little extra income every month. They, you know, and I don't want to say Bob is thinking this, but in the Trinity case, they did wait until their retirement and then asked someone to pay a quarter million dollars to view the object.

Right, yeah. So, you know, there was a money incentive involved in their case. So I don't know, that hasn't happened yet, but that is a funny little overlap. Yes, there is a chance that after retiring retiring Bob went to his accountant and was like, Alright, I'm ready for the easy life now. After all that work. And his accountant was like, Cool, you should know you don't qualify for a state pension. So you won't actually have any income for the foreseeable future. And Bob's like oh just remembered

uh I have an alien artifact in my trunk so let me go grab that I'm gonna be about 45 minutes I parked very far away yeah bear with me because what can we do with that can we sell it? I parked very far away it's's crazy. Can we sell it? I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, I love the idea of being in the meeting with the accountant, him going through the papers. My god, Bob, what the f*** have you been doing all these years? Your 401k is non-existent. What have you been paying into all these years? Jesus! Just places down on the desk desk I don't need a 401k sir I have this. I got this something that's 401k years old. But look kid this story

alone would be worth investigating even if something like this never happened again. But over the years, as the Freedom of Information Act declassified more and more government documents, we started to learn that Bob was not alone. He is only one of many people who have recovered strange objects and medals from UFOs over the years. And some of those objects look identical to Bob's. Really?

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forced the release of a cluster of documents relating to UFOs. Get your tin foil hat ready, you little f***. Cause I'm about to show you something that'll blow your mind. I'm ready. Where's your hat? That wasn't a metaphor.

So I thought it was a metaphor. No, you've got to put the hat on. I don't have one. Alright, do we have anything? Can you just... Not really. I've got a kind of ceremonial bowl. It's pretty heavy to be honest.

Yeah, it's really heavy. I think if I stay completely still... There we go. It's going to get in there. Alright. It's going to get in there. You think it's really heavy. I don't... I think if I stay completely still... There we go. It's gonna get in there. Alright. It's gonna get in. You think it's gonna leak in? Yeah, I think it's gonna get in anyway.

Just get on with it. Alright, I'll just... I'll just risk my brain being turned to mush. These documents contained pictures of alleged alien objects recovered from UFOs. And when you put some of them side by side with Bob's object, the similarity is striking. Interesting. Take a look at this. Okay, Rory is showing me more seeds under a microscope. So we got Bob's object on the left that I've seen in a number of cases now. It does look like a

fennel or root vegetable. And then on the right, we have labeled 1940s document and... Granted, yes, this was 40 years before Bob's. So the scan, the picture isn't as good, but it's an object remarkably similar in shape. Yeah, it's a T-bone steak. Mm, good description, yeah. It looks very much like a steak but it kind of looks, you know in movies when people scan their ass cheeks on a, they sit on a scanner and scan their ass cheeks.

I don't like this comparison. It's as if they just did that, they just put the object flat on a scanner. Okay, yeah that's fine. And that's why it's just kind of a shitty resolution and so on and it's mostly black. But I'm talking up the bad points here to finally get to the fact that the shape is extremely similar I don't frustratingly we do have a scale here yeah it's kind of hard to I don't know the numbers are pretty faded if you if you if I got a really good look at that you could tell how big it is it'd be interesting to see the size comparison but the shape is certainly similar yeah it, it's a nice coincidence, quote unquote, that the declassified version of the document

is borderline incomprehensible. Yeah. Thanks a lot, CIA. Now I believe that these pictures that we're seeing alongside Bob's were taken of an object recovered, as we know, in the 1940s. But that would be 40 years before Bob would recover

his object. It's also extremely close to the very early nascent days of UFO documentation in North America. We covered it in my kind of going through all the documents from the IRO program of going through all the documents from the ARO program that it only really all kicked off in the 40s thanks to Roswell and the Trinity UFO. That seemed to kick off an era of UFO investigation. And was that because this was just a popular time to investigate UFOs or were dragon dicks raining from the sky?

There were so many scaly little teardrops that they had to start investigating UFOs. That a not a rhetorical question I don't know that wasn't a metaphor this is a literal podcast I am talking to you is it's I just keep saying things and you're looking at me like I'm crazy. Well you are crazy. That's coincidental. And you stopped drinking by the way. You had to take a big panicked swig of your bottle of Udweser there. I mean if your question is were there dragon dicks quote raining from the sky? I don't know. I don't know. I mean if you want a real answer. That was a metaphor. I think things were happening. No, you just saw it wasn't a metaphor.

Not everything's literal, alright? Sometimes there's metaphors in there. Shut up. You just said it wasn't. I also know that that was the Second World War. So I think there was a degree of us looking for stuff. As nations, we were looking for enemy technology. We were rapidly developing our own technologies.

And then in the midst, I think some weird stuff was turning up. Yeah, that could have just been technology we didn't know about or could have been extraterrestrial. The analogy I like to use sometimes is remember during the Chinese spy balloon phase of the news, which was weird a couple of years ago. And researchers were saying, look, basically we saw one spy balloon, then we thought we'd

crank up the sensitivity on our like radar systems. Then we discovered a whole lot more balloons, quote unquote balloons. So it's a kind of simple logic. The more you go looking for these things, the more you are going to find of them. Yes, it is a paranormal field of dreams. Instead of, if you build it, they will come. If you look for it, there it be.

That didn't come out quite as smoothly as I wanted. There it be, yarr. I don't know why he's a pirate, but the truth stands. Yes, there are more objects that have been discovered. Honestly, there's so many more cases of people claiming to have recovered pieces of UFOs. Some that look like Bob's, some that are completely different. One of the most credible cases involves radio host Art Bell, who we do know from being the

host of the now famous paranormal radio show, Coast to Coast AM. One day, Art started receiving strange packages in the mail. Inside everyone was a collection of bizarre metal fragments. These packages came from an army sergeant who had recently come into possession of the medals after his grandfather passed away. How did his grandfather get these metals? Well, according to his own diary, the grandfather witnessed a strange wedge-shaped craft crash into the ground in southern New Mexico. The object was glowing for three hours before he finally pulled off some of the metal scrapings from the craft.

Kit, I have some, yes, as you said before, under a microscope, pictures of the scrapings taken from the craft. Would you like to see? More evidence. Let's go. I'm feasting on it. I'm dining. Why is everything under a microscope? Okay, I'm looking at the material. Yeah, I mean, it looks 100% like a rock, but I understand this is very up close. And I trust that it is metal. Yeah. And to be clear, I think the way we're saying it

makes it sound like we're talking about metals that you get from running of 10K. This is metals. Yeah, this looks like it's kind of, this one actually has layers to it that you can see, almost like it dates back, like the layers of a tree. It looks like geology of the earth itself, like going back through the layers of earth,

but no, it's a metal. Cool, I don't know what any of that means. It looks cool though. Yeah, the general shape of it does look quite like the objects that we have seen before that Bob found and was in the declassified files, but I'll be blunt with you, this is like a metal filing. This is a very up close photo of the object.

This thing is not big, it is very small. What is with these old dudes holding on to metal fragments until their literal death bed? Yeah, even with this mother-f***** tried to take it to the grave. He had retired and even he was like, oh, I'm shattered though. Oh, 50 years of work. I deserve a break.

And then you know what? Maybe 80, 90. I'll talk about the UFO. He was so old. His son was doing his laundry for him. And then he turned out the pockets of one of his treasures. Like, dad, what the f*** are these? Like, ah, you got me.

All right, son, take a seat. New Mexico desert, 1913. I see a wedge-shaped crab. What the f*** are you talking about? Talking about? Yeah, I don't even think he told anyone about it when he was alive. I think his grandson found his diary where he confessed everything. And he inherited the shards.

I don't know what this is. Maybe the weight, the personal weight of having a paranormal experience like this is too much to bear or maybe you have to solely carry that weight with you. Yeah, look we've heard stuff like that. We've heard many, many cases of people saying that look no one's gonna believe me anyway. I'm all set. I've got a busy life. Let me get on with it. It's not impossible. It really isn't impossible. No, you don. I've got a busy life. Let me get on with it. It's not impossible. It really isn't impossible. No, it's you don't want to be made fun of. You don't want people to laugh at you. So sometimes, you know, when you're already 60, it's just easier to take it to the grave.

That's maybe what a lot of these people want to do. But as I said, we are here today not to talk about all these artifacts, but to talk about Bob's specifically. Now unfortunately Bob has since passed away but his mission carries on through the work of his friends John Huey and Larry Sikander. In fact as recently as 2013 Larry Sikander hosted a panel at the 2013 Ozark Mountain UFO conference talking about Bob and the artifact that he found and He actually played an entire documentary that he made with Bob when he was alive Wow We're not gonna show that entire documentary because it's over an hour long But one you should watch it because it is really great and two

We are going to play the best part of it on this podcast right now. Because for some reason, they decided to write a song that would play at the beginning of the movie, kind of like a DVD menu song. Love that. And the song is basically an entire retelling of the story of Bob finding the artifact, handing it in, and his whole journey trying to get people to investigate it. Wow. Okay. This is exciting. And there is, let's just say it, there's big boots to fill for it because we rarely get a song, an original song on the show. And the times we have got it, the bar is very high. Let's just say it, Michigan Dogman. Dogman song. A classic.

So, you know, I don't want to big anyone up too much, but this could be really something. It could. Now, I'm going to warn people before I play it. I tried so hard to find a clean version of this song. I've searched. It's filled with smut, swear words. Well, I wish that was the problem, but all I can find is this recording from the panel

in 2013, which was riddled with, I think it was like pumped through the PA speakers. So it's not great quality, but the song really is incredible. It tells the whole story of Bob and the artifact. So I thought we'd play it right now on the podcast. Oh, wow. Lang time before the stars, there it is.

["Lang Time Before the Stars"] Like time before the stars, there it is. ["Star-Light Night"] Oh! We pause it already. We pause it real quick. I assume we're about to get right into the course of Jingle Bells. Jingle Bells. It's got a real Christmas flair to it. It's really great. It's got movement.

Yeah. Right before my eyes. I think they left. But then it, the darkness can't be healed. I took it to the lost house And then moved down to the field This is the real just what it was And then they changed their minds So I went out of here with them

Before you're in a bind I got out of here with them Before you're in a bind I packed it up and took it home Sorry, I need to just address the kind of UFO noises in the foreground. It's like right between my eyes. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Oh, it's still going. Oh, it's still going. Oh, it came from outer space, it came from outer space. This is the real thing. Wow!

At that point, I don't care whether this is a yes or a no today. I mean, it is, whenever you roll, whenever you provide that amount of entertainment value, you know, you're a winner in my eyes. Glad to hear it. I love that outro as well. It sounds like he didn't actually know how to fade out a voice. Right in between my eyes.

It sounds like he's physically walking away from the microphone. King from outer space. King from outer space. This is the real thing. Just kind of fading out. I love that, like, yeah, Frasier has left the building.

This is the real thing. I've devastated that I couldn't get a clearer version of that, but what a ma- I'm glad we got a version. It truly is a masterpiece. The vocal track really had the flair. I don't know if you ever remember recording to like four track recorders, but it's like, you got one go at that bitch. Didn't matter if you were out of tune, out of time, but it was like, you had to do it pretty much all in one go. Yeah. It kind of had that flavor of he was like, got to the end was like,

oh, I forgot the ending loops a couple times. Right, just keep going, keep, keep going, keep going till it ends. I thought this was great. I thought this was, you know, it's obviously a way of telling a story, but working through a difficult time in your life, putting it into the form of a song. Yeah, we could tell that.

We could tell he was working through a couple of psychological things during that song. Hey, you're not wrong. This is human history. This is the paranormal. This is the history of the paranormal, the oral tradition. And we see it with, you know, indigenous peoples, like let's say those in Australia, Australasia,

Torres Strait Islanders, places like that, where the history goes back 50,000 years, it's through story and it's through song that they shared tales like this. Yeah. So there's really nothing more human in the world than writing a merry little song about something mental that happened. Yeah, right, as a way to kind of deal with it and process it.

So with that in mind, can I play you a song I wrote? Oh, God, really? If I had known this was going to happen, I wouldn't have said a lot of kind stuff about Rob's song. My therapist says that writing music can help you kind of deal with traumatic experiences in your life. So I thought I'd actually like write a song you kind of deal with traumatic experiences in your life. Sure. So I thought I'd actually like write a song to kind of talk about some of the things that have happened in my life. Yeah, you should write that. Don't show it to anybody.

Well, I actually have it right now. I was going to play it because I feel like like Bob, I want to like, I want to get it out of my system and I want people to... Have you seriously prepared a song? I wrote a song. Oh my God. You said it yourself after we heard Bob's song. You were like, hey, if you bring that much showmanship

to a case, you'll give it a yes. Right, I don't need my cohost of the podcast. Mine's even John-tier as well. Mine is really... I don't need it to be John-tier. I need evidence. I just want to... I need evidence for today's case.

I just feel like I need this to get it out of my system to air it. So I really, I really appreciate it. It doesn't really seem like anything I'm saying is getting through anyway. Yeah. Because Roy has pulled out his phone and has the MP3 locked and loaded. Yeah. I'm just going to play right here for everyone. Okay. So I guess let's just do it.

This is actually really emotionally tough for me to play. So don't do it. I would appreciate, I would appreciate not laughing about this because I'm actually admitting a lot of stuff that's happened in my life. It's kind of hard to acknowledge. So I just appreciate everyone taking this seriously because this this goes back from the start, like my birth to the current day. We don't have time for that.

All the bad stuff that the time for birth. We don't have time for birth the current day. So this is your oldest shit. We don't have time for 33 years of this't have time for birth the current day. So this is- You're old as shit. We don't have time for 33 years of this nonsense. This is just some of the traumatic things that are happening in my life. All right. Okay. Okay.

My name is Rory Powers and I've been around so long. I've made a few mistakes I'd like to cover in this song. Cause therapy's expensive so I thought it would be nice to list all the traumatic things that happened in my life Oh when I was ten I went to school in a pair of jeans They split in half and showed my ass that kids were really mean When I was twelve I rode my bicycle into a hedge And a group of ducks attacked me when I tried to feed them bread

I never learned the proper way to put a condom on, so the first time that I tried the thing exploded on my dong. I threw a birthday party once where no one else arrived and I got banned from Disneyland for sneaking alcohol inside. A girl screamed at the zoo once when I asked her on a date she said I'm sorry I thought one of the gorillas had escaped I tried to join the swim team but they told me I was fat and I've got an extra nipple but I hide it with a hat my family tried to sell me once on Facebook marketplace and the doctors think there is a chance I came from outer space, came from outer space, came from outer space. This is the real thing.

So that was just... What about that was paranormal? Probably the third nipple. You hide your nipple with your hat? No one said... You said that in the song. Yeah, I did actually, didn't I? That's the lyrics of the song.

Like, I know a lot of that washed over me, but that was one that did stand out. So we've reached, we've reached conclusions today. I think on the podcast, um, two brave, sorry, two brave men, two brave men today on the podcast who've come forward and dealt with some traumatic moments in their life, myself and Bob, you know, Bob waited till retirement like a coward. I thought I'm going to do it in the middle of my career. Root to call him a card and to, you shouldn't have done that. You shouldn't have done that because at least Rob Song was thematically relevant to spreading

the story of the UFO crash and the resultant media frenzy and everything. I think people wanted to hear that and he made a documentary about what happened. And my story? Unwarranted. Unwarranted I think. Because I told a few stories in there. I actually like, I took the listeners on a journey. Some of it just seemed... Just a lot to cover because a lot of bad shit has happened. So did you like the beat at least? The bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum came from outer space. I did a little homage to him at the end as well. Some of it just seems like complete, like it just can't be real.

You said you asked a woman in a zoo out on a date and she screamed and said she thought one of the gorillas had escaped. She thought I was a gorilla. How would that be? Because I give off such a Neanderthal vibe that I think she was like, you look like a primitive man, you look like underdeveloped mentally to the point where I thought you were a gorilla. I think is what she was implying. Kind of the smell and the body hair as well just overwhelmingly giving off the impression that I wasn't in fact a man, I was a beast that had escaped a cage. I think was kind of the... she didn't say that in so many words but I assume that was... Do you really have a nipple in your head? Nope. You did put on the hat because as soon as you revealed...

the thing is because you said that you were burying your soul and everything but then as soon as you told us about the nipple you put on a hat and it feels like the hat's not gonna come off after the rest of the episode. I'm just cold now so nipple, you put on a hat. And it feels like the hat's not going to come off. I'm just cold now, so I just wanted to put a hat on. I think you're getting bogged down with the little details here, but we're here today to talk about Bob. All right. And we can talk a little bit about me if it's complimentary. So you do want to talk about you.

Slightly, yeah. Because you for a split second, they wanted to move off of talking about yourself and then immediately came back I just think it was brave of me and Bob to come forward in a song You don't get to say that it was brave of you Someone else has to say that about you. Well, Bob can't come forward anymore because he is dead So I have to blaze the trail Just tell me you didn't like the song. Yeah, you've been blazing a bit too much of something I think that's what's happened to your brain. All right, I've been blazing a bit too much of something. I think that's what's happened to your brain.

All right, you've been blazing a bit too much. And yeah, you know what? I don't like the song. That hurts to hear. That actually does hurt to hear. How can that be a surprise to you? That took four weeks. It shouldn't. Of writing, production, and actually sunk a lot of the Patreon money into producing it.

Why? Because I had to rent the studio. You didn't need to rent a studio for that. Surely that was a royalty-free, jaunty beat. to rent the studio. You didn't need to rent a studio for that. Surely that was a royalty free, jaunty beat. I wrote the beat. I hired a couple guys from Sweden to come in and record it. From Sweden you flew them from Sweden to record the beat? Yeah, yeah.

And the instruments and everything. The whole thing was like 20k. Twenty bands. But it's about to make 401k. Why would it make that? Because it's my retirement fund. I'm like Bob, I'm going to drop this song. Who's going to pay you money to listen to that?

People might pay me to stop playing it. That's what I'm planning on. That's possible. But I'm not going to pay you 20k for that. That's fair. That's fair. As I said, Bob is now sadly gone from this earth, but on his website does remain a quote open letter to the mutual UFO network where he wrote, my name is Bob White and I want to thank

you for showing an interest in my unknown object. With the help of people like you, I was able to get an analysis from New Mexico Tech paid for by the National Institute for Discovery Science. I also have analysis from Los Alamos, paid for by Unsolved Mysteries. These are things I could never afford. However, I would be remiss if I did not call to your attention one of your investigators who is misrepresenting me and the unknown object in my possession. I'm going on the record as categorically denying his claims. One, the UFO did not come down from two UFOs having a dog fight.

Two, one of the UFOs was not shot down in the dog fight. Three, my unknown object does not shoot laser beams. And four, I am not hiding from the government. I'm not hiding from the government, I'm just a private guy. You can still visit Bob's website where he has all of this information. Some of the pages do get a little bit conspiracy heavy and start trending. Okay, let's go. No, let's not go.

Start trending in a direction that maybe we wouldn't on this podcast. Hey, we all have a soft spot for at least one conspiracy, am I right guys? But you can check it out. It's www.hardevidence.info. Ironically, that is a hard URL. It really is actually. Hardevidence.info.

He got that thing early. It's not, you don't hear.info so regularly. Yeah, but it does give off, I don't know, a more important vibe than.com. It really pairs well with stuff that there shouldn't really be information about, you know, like tits.info or something. It just, that really hits hard. I feel like. That's my kind of website.

Oh man. Do you get ahold of my search history? Um, all right. website. Oh man, do you get a hold of my search history? All right, that pretty much takes us, unfortunately, to the end of today's episode on Bob White and the Artifact. I believe the Artifact is still in possession by Bob and his friends. They still own it. Well, Bob's dead, so it's not him. That's true. Bob's friends then. The friends of Bob. Yeah, who still carry on his mission, still run the website and attend various conventions,

where I think they even bring the thing. You can go and see it and hold it and touch it yourself. I'd say if you go to one of those conventions, it'll hit about 2.30 a.m. before people start drinking out of the thing. People, it's got a little bit of a groove in it, you can pour a shot of tequila in there. It does kind of look like a... Salt on the rim of the... Yeah. It looks like a bit of a groove in it. You can pour a shot of tequila in there. It does kind of look like a-

Salt on the rim of the- Yeah. It looks like a bit of a drinking horn. A Viking drinking horn. You could hollow that thing out and have a sip for sure. Kit, I admit that there's probably some disappointing parts of this episode, which are the fact that we have a physical object and yet we really know so little about it.

Yeah. I really, I made a conscious choice at the start of this podcast not to bore people with the endless theories about where it came from, the boring kind of analysis of the genetic makeup and material of the object, the percentages, how strange it is that this comes from here and this and that, and that's layered with this. That actually sounds fascinating. No. Especially compared to your song. Well, don and that's layered with this. That actually sounds fascinating. No.

Especially compared to your song. Well, don't bring the song into this. So we've burned about eight minutes on the song and I just feel like we could have got fair enough to not dedicate 20 minutes of podcasting to, you know, where the thing came from, what it's made of. Yeah. For sure dedicate one minute though. Just a quick where it's from and what is made of. Yeah. For sure, dedicate one minute though. Just a quick where it's from and what it's made of.

Well, if you do go onto hardevidence.info, on the side, there is in bright red text, a little section that says, urgent correction. At this time, all elements in the unknown object have been identified. Sure. So that doesn't mean they're not extraterrestrial, but I think probably at one

point they were trying to say there were elements that we don't even know what they are. Right. They might need to rethink the name unknown object. Yeah. Shit is slightly known at this point. It's known partially. I guess its origins are unknown, but does that necessarily make it paranormal? That's what we're here to decide. I'm going to throw it to you first, Kate. What are your thoughts on today's episode? That is the trouble, you know, with like, I don't know what you would call it, an inorganic material, inorganic compound or something like a fragment of metal from across space because we do discover fragments of metal all the time from space. I mean, even kind of asshole billionaires

are trying to formulate plans right now for us to mine asteroids because they're so rich in things like aluminium, lithium, whatever, any other precious metals, gold and so on. And in the field of kind of extraterrestrial study and stuff, that's why, part of why the Holy Grail is some kind of, well, and stuff, that's why, part of why the Holy Grail is some kind of, well, as an actual alien, whether that takes the form of a space worm or something meteor, pardon

the pun, like an actual extraterrestrial. Hey, that was, don't pardon that pun, that was good. Because if we got cells of some sort of living creature, people can correct me here, but I think if we're not dealing with just a straight up metal compound, elements which exist everywhere in the universe, if we're looking at actual cells, life form cells, it will be very easy for biologists to start telling like, okay, are these beings powered by adenosine triphosphate? Do they use the same chemical pathways and biological systems that we have developed on earth over millions of years of evolution. These kind of like calling cards of Earth life that may or may not be represented in other places. People have said aliens

and other planets might be you know silicone based life forms. They might be as opposed to carbon based life forms. It would be easier to tell the provenance of something where it's living. So that's just to say that physical objects is really tough. I will say it's fascinating though that Rob's object does mirror something that turns up in declassified UFO documents from the CIA. I wish I hadn't cut all that stuff about what it's made of because it sounds like you're actually really interested in that part of it and less about the song. Yeah, the song was pure entertainment value.

It was kind of wasn't useful to the kids whatsoever. Because when I was researching this, I was like, oh, they've taken it to scientists who have discovered elements that only exist in the corners of our solar system. Cut, cut, cut, boring stuff. And then I found the song that Bob wrote. We can put it in now. We can do a tiny bit now. Then I found the song that Bob wrote. We could put it in now. It's too late.

We could do a tiny bit now. Then I found the song that Bob wrote and I was like, he's going to love this. Oh shit. What if I write a song too and then two songs, double yes. For a show that doesn't feature any songs, two songs is too, too many. What do you think? I think that this at most could be an object that fell from the sky. Not necessarily one that fell from an alien craft.

And I think that that distinction alone is enough to decide whether something is paranormal or not. Meteorites aren't paranormal. They exist in our universe. Comets shooting stars, objects from space coming down and crashing into Earth. Not paranormal. So I think the only way we could say it's paranormal is if we really truly believed that this object peeled off of a UFO or was discharged from a UFO.

And I don't really think we have any evidence today to prove that that is the case. We don't have to say Bob's a liar. This thing could be real. He could have found it in a crater in the desert. All of that can be true, but it can also not be a paranormal object. And I think that's where I'm coming down on today. Yeah, it's a great point. You know, and whilst we always want physical evidence,

in this case, we have something approaching physical evidence. I mean, it is physical evidence, but then we're falling short in other areas, like let's say multiple witnesses, or any other kind of corroboration or sightings in the sky in the surrounding area. Yeah, I mean, he obviously did talk a little bit about seeing an orb in the sky, things taking off, but I don't know, we don't have any evidence to prove that that actually did take place. So for me this week, it is unfortunately going to be a no. It, I guess, is a double no? Damn! Unfortunately a double no this week, but is unfortunately gonna be a no. I guess it's a double no.

Damn! Unfortunately a double no this week, but I thought this case was great. It feels quite rare when we get to investigate a UFO encounter where they leave behind physical evidence. I think the last time I brought up a case like this, it was when Liquid metal shot out of a UFO and mummified a dog. And you did not like that one. As I said, there are a lot of cases, surprisingly, where something like this has taken place. Isn't our first, won't be our last. There'll be plenty more to come, but unfortunately today's, The Artifact Recovered by Bob White is unfortunately a double no.

But we did get two great songs out of it, which is a plus side. And we did have a great time, great investigation. So I want to thank you everyone for listening to this week's episode of the podcast. Always a joy. Rory's still wearing the hat. For anyone who's not watching on youtube.com, Rory's still wearing the cowboy hat. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm just feeling like a cowboy. Rory's going Shaboosie mode from here on out. He's going country Rory mode.

He is a Georgia boy at the end of the day. Yeah, exactly. It was just calling to me. I think I belong in the hat. Thank you so much for listening to this week's episode of the podcast. If you wanna get more this paranormal life, there is one easy way to do it and that's on patreon.com.

That's where you can join the TPL commune. I think everyone's had quite enough this week. I think after that song everyone's had quite enough. Well, I hope that isn't the case, Kit, because we're bringing in a new tier on Patreon where $20 you can receive a whole CD collection of my song, Bob's song, the acapella versions of the song. You don't have the rights for Bob's song. You played me an iPhone recording of a conference of Bob's song. So I don't think Roy has the rights to CD burn Bob's song.

The quality is low. The quality is low in Bob's song, but the quality is high in mine. So don't worry. I spent a lot of money on it. 401k specifically. You said 20k? No, that was a lie. I spent substantially more.

We are broke. Miley Goddamn Cyrus didn't spend 401k on her last album. And that was probably 10 songs. Then let me plug the Patreon because we need the cash. You need the cash. No, I took it all. I'm taking your cash from here on out. Well, hey, well, apparently I need the cash. You need the cash. No, I took it all. I'm taking your cash from here on out. Well, hey, well, apparently I need money then.

And I'm not retiring anytime soon like Bob. So head on over to patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life. That's where you can support the show and get some awesome extra content from your boys here, your paranormal pals at this paranormal life. Link is in the description of this podcast or this YouTube video, wherever you're listening or viewing.

And hey, if you did enjoy today's episode, either the research, the evidence, the song, hypothetically, if it's the song, and you're not on Patreon, why not throw us a couple stars on the whatever? Well, not a couple stars, five. Specifically five would be really appreciated. I spent a lot of time on the song, and I feel like that. Not a couple of stars. Specifically five would be really appreciated. I spent a lot of time on the song and I feel like that does deserve a couple of stars.

That would make me feel better if it was like five stars and just like, I love the song. Something like that would really make my day. Sure. I really appreciate it. But also if you do support us on Patreon and you're on the shout out tier, what you get is your own personal shout out at the end of an episode of the podcast And that's what we're gonna do right now So thank you to Christiana beers

Christiana if we ever get married, I'm taking your last name Cuz well say don't just laugh at the end cuz that makes it sound like More clever Don't just laugh at the end, because that makes it sound like... I just didn't know anything about that. I just thought it was going to be something more clever. No, because I want a beers. You just like the name? I want beers. I'm taking beers. Right, yeah, fine.

Do you have anything you want to do? That's something me and you have in common, Christiana. You miss beers, and I just miss beers generally. you want to do. That's something me and you have in common, Christiana. You're Miss Beers, and I'm just Miss Beers, generally. Oh, you're Miss Beers. In my life. Oh yeah, you can have, there's one in the fridge if you want. No. It's fine. Maybe after this. And thank you lastly to Micah Holbrook. Micah Holbrook is all books. That's right, you can try and give them any other form of entertainment. iPads, phones, TVs, game consoles. Holbrook is all books. It's all book. Even when sometimes it's like you should just put down the book and read

the original. Like I saw them the other day, they were reading the Minecraft book. It's like play the game. It's so much better. Yeah. They were like, I'm whole books. I'm all books. Yeah, I'm all books. It's like I'm gonna read the Minecraft book, then I'm gonna move on to David Beckham's autobiography. Oh, you like football? No, I've never watched football in my life. Don't even know what it is. He just loves books. Why would you read that? I don't get it. So, well, hey, you're gonna have a great time in the commune because we got six books I think yeah six maybe no I think one of them got wet now, so it's four five books That'll keep you busy for a while. Four of them are Bibles. Yeah, so you will have to swear on them for sure

So come check it out come down to the commune. They're all in court They're all Bibles we use to execute prisoners. Thank you so much for listening to the podcast. I hope you had a great time. As always, we loved being here with you, bringing you a new paranormal tale. And of course, we will see you next Tuesday for another one, maybe another song. You know what? Who knows?

I better change your heart. Why don't we play out with Rory's song? You want to listen to the song again? I don't wanna listen to it myself, but I think the listeners wanna hear it again. Alright, here's the song. My name is Rory Powers and I've been around so long I've made a few mistakes I'd like to cover in this song Cause therapy's expensive so I thought it would be nice

To list all the traumatic things that happened in my life Oh when I was 10 I went to school in a pair of jeans They split in half and showed my ass the kids were really mean When I was 12 I rode my bicycle into a hedge And a group of ducks attacked me when I tried to feed them bread I never learned the proper way to put a condom on, So the first time that I tried the thing exploded on my dong. I threw a birthday party once where no one else arrived,

And I got banned from Disneyland for sneaking alcohol inside. A girl screamed at the zoo once when I asked her on a date, She said, I'm'm sorry I thought one of the gorillas had escaped I tried to join the swim team but they told me I was fat and I've got an extra nipple but I hide it with a hat My family tried to sell me once on Facebook marketplace and the doctors think there is a chance I came from outer space came from outer space came from outer space came from outer space