This Paranormal Life - #398 The Christmas Haunting of Raynham Hall

Episode Date: December 24, 2024

Christmas is the most magical time of the year and, as it happens, it’s also one of the most paranormal… Christmas marks the winter solstice, the darkest day of the year when the veil between... the world of the living and the dead is most thin. This is why for hundreds of years people gathered around the yule log to share ghost stories on Christmas Eve. One of the most shocking and believable tales is that of the Brown Lady of Raynham hall, set at Christmas time. Time for Kit and Rory to investigate.Merry Christmas everyone!Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.comEdited by Philip ShackladyResearch by Ewen Friers Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Why are there so many candy canes at Christmas? Can the elves not walk? What kind of genetic experiments did Santa perform to get the reindeer to fly? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of... This Paranormal Live! Ho, ho, ho! And welcome... Merry Christmas!
Starting point is 00:00:21 ...to This Paran... I'm hosting, all right? Sorry. All right. I've been waiting all year to say that I didn't realize we start again because I really need to get there because I said Merry Christmas. Yeah, it was kind of there. You can still say it pay up. Merry Christmas. That doesn't Yeah, I don't feel very jolly anymore. So I mean usually people say Merry Christmas back to you So it's like it's not usually ever see you said to the audience. I was trying to say to the Merry Christmas back to you. So it's like it's not usually ever said of the audience I was trying to say to the Merry Christmas
Starting point is 00:00:46 Welcome to this part of a life at a very festive edition We are if you were watching this on YouTube you can see that we are I look like a asshole of wearing a Christmas jumper I've been cajoled into wearing a Christmas jumper Rose get his beautiful Guinness Christmas jumper both of ours are boost themes because I have a Guinness Christmas jumper and you have one that says rain beer with a reindeer's head shaped like a corona. Bringing it back from last year's Christmas special guys, it is Christmas Eve and you are listening to this paranormal life. What else would you be doing on Christmas Eve?
Starting point is 00:01:22 The weekly comedy podcast where every Tuesday we get into a different paranormal tale deciding by the end whether it's festive or not. Rory, how you doing today? This is a present that's come early. You don't have to wait till tomorrow morning for the man to come down the chimney. We're giving you a present now. And that's in the form of a brand new podcast from your boys, investigating some spooky, maybe festive paranormal phenomenons.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Yeah. Is this episode like getting socks for Christmas? A thing that you just... Didn't ask for. Didn't ask for, get kind of throughout the year anyway. Right. Can easily buy on your own at any time. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Little bit. Yeah. But are socks completely necessary? Yes. True. Really useful. Also, yeah. And comforting. So there's a lot of plus sides to socks.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yeah. I think. Socks are a great gift. Rory, I think before we go any further into the episode, of course I have a fantastic, brand new investigation for you today. Let's just start with a gift swap. Let's get into it because it is Christmas Eve after all.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I don't know if we're going to see each other any closer to Christmas than this. So let's just do it. Hey. Yeah. Oh, well, okay. I didn't know if we're gonna see each other any closer to Christmas than this so let's just Do it hey yeah, oh, okay? I didn't know this was happening So I've got Rory's gift here, and okay you blindsided me a little bit with this one. I didn't know we were doing gifts So yeah sure okay. No. I'll take it. Why wouldn't we do gifts. I don't know I'll take the present though Well now I don't feel like I don't feel like how many the present. Yeah, I don't feel like... Hand me the present. Yeah I don't feel like... I'll take it. You didn't get me a gift then? Because this might be for Phil. Well I didn't... This might be for Phil depending on your answer. Your gift is
Starting point is 00:02:53 still on its way. Right. Because old Saint Nicholas will be coming down the chimney tonight maybe he'll have something in his sack. In the meantime, give me the present. But I gotta go home and spend Christmas with my family. So I don't think we're gonna see each other. So I don't know. We might. We might if you're a good little boy, but it would be bad if you don't give me that present now.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I think. All right, well look, hey, I'm only razzin' you because at the end of the day, look, and before I hand this to you, I just wanna say I really wanted to get you a gift. Kind of irregardless of whether you got me one because You know, you're some awesome friend man, and I just... This makes me feel worse.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Really? Yeah, I just really care about you and just wanted to You know give you a little bit of Christmas cheer, you know, whatever way I could I guess because I really care about you man I really do. It's wrapped in a weird way. It's kind of just smushed with the paper. So, all right. So what did I get here? I just smushed with the paper so alright, so what did what did I get here so? Okay, all right, so Kate got me two Christmas ornament Ornaments for a tree. Yeah, I just really care. One is an old man Naked with his dick in a Santa hat. It's Santa. The other one is an old lady
Starting point is 00:04:06 Naked. Mrs. Claus. That's Mrs. Claus. It mr. And mrs. Claus. Why are they naked? Why can I see their ass and titties? That's not fast now. She's covering her titties and she yeah, but her trousers are down, but she's not wearing trousers She's wearing shoes, but no trousers. It's like a cheeky Fun festive gift. Where did you get these? For my uncle these people legal to have he whittles them. I don't like touching them. That's uh, yep and there's the ass. I just turned it around, there's the ass. Aren't they cute? Cool. I feel less bad now about not getting you anything. I don't think we need to show anyone those. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yeah, I can't say that I'm gonna put these on the tree. I want you to know that. That's more than fair. They're probably not going on the tree. My mum would probably have a heart attack if she saw these. Wow, thank you Kit. I'm feeling slightly less festive than I was before, but still feeling very festive. Because I'm excited. As you said, it's Christmas Eve.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I'm gonna just put these out of sight because they're really distracting me. Throw them down there and that's good. That's great. Now, thank you. Thank you. You know what? I might give those to Phil. I think he also would appreciate them. So that seems like a good idea. Well, okay. I've actually got a pretty good reason why I didn't manage to get you a gift this year. And I don't want to ramble too much at the start of the podcast because I know we like to get straight into things. But I did do something very exciting this week. I literally just got back only a few days ago
Starting point is 00:05:31 from running my first ever marathon. Wow. I didn't realize until... Moving on. So let's jump into... I didn't realize until today that I hadn't actually mentioned it once on the main podcast. I think I talked about it on the after party once.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Yes. But then we got to this point, I was like, no one actually knows that I'm doing this. I signed up for my first ever marathon in Hawaii. Isn't that crazy? Wild. So hey, congratulations, R&R. I literally haven't seen, I got here a couple of hours ago to the studio. Thank you. And I haven't even officially said congratulations.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Thank you very much. I was texting you while you're away being like- Mostly work stuff. You forgot to do this. Yeah, yeah, kind of nagging me and things. Because I saw you throw up the story of like you holding a medal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And I was like, I'm not gonna let that slide. I'm gonna, Rory, you forgot to clean out the fridge before you left the studio on Thursday. You've got a bronze medal in replying to emails, buddy. How about that? Uh, no, it was great. It was a lot of fun. It was hard.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I've got to say way harder than I thought. Did you cry? I tried. I got to the finish line. Gel came out. I got to the finish line and I saw it in front of me and the five months of training now were, were actualized in a single moment of crossing a finish line.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And I felt myself going to cry. Unfortunately, at that point had no liquid left in my body. So instead I was just kind of making wincing faces like, but nothing coming out. You sounded like a seal. But it was an interesting first marathon, because you've run a few marathons in your life, Kit. You know that one of the things they say is, on the day of the marathon, don't change a single thing.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Don't do anything different on race day. Whatever you've been doing has been working. So don't change anything. Don't change a single thing. If you eat a banana before has been working. Right. So don't change anything. Don't change a single thing. If you eat a banana before every run, eat a banana, don't eat an apple. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:29 If you don't normally drink water during the run, don't start drinking water, things like that. Exactly. And I had planned this, I planned it meticulously. So much so that the week beforehand, I was eating rice cakes to track my carb intake so it would be maxed out for the time of the race, right? I put extra safety pins in my bag just in case I lost some or couldn't find them when I arrived at my destination
Starting point is 00:07:53 So I was ready to down to the pin. This is you talking to the race director He's like he's like my guy the starting time was 30 minutes ago start running. You're like, no you understand So I got extra extra I got rice cakes and pins. Stop eating rice cakes and run, my dude. So I was ready. I've been training for so long. We get the flight over there. British Airways lost my bag. Oh. Lost my entire bag. Lost my shoes, my shorts, my top, my vest, my gels, my water bottle, my socks, boxers, everything, all of my gear that I've been running in. Everything but the clothes you were wearing on the flight and maybe your steam deck.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah, exactly. My Nintendo Switch and it was looking like I was going to have to run it in a pair of Air Force 1s. Yeah. I was like, this isn't happening. Not what they were designed for. So the day before the marathon, I walked about 20,000 steps all around downtown, buying everything from scratch, having to buy shoes, shirts, all this gear I've never used before, gels I'd never even tasted before, and had to use them all for the first time
Starting point is 00:09:00 on marathon day at 5 a.m. to run 26 miles. Hell yeah. It was horrible. There's nothing more American, by the way, than a 5 a.m. Start time. That was pretty cool I don't think that's how anything works in Europe, right? No one is up before eight I've run the number of raises. I don't think any have started before 9 a.m. No, I might be trippin No, I don't think so either. I think it's a heat thing. Hmm Because it would be way too hot if you started at like midday, if you're way boiling.
Starting point is 00:09:27 So that was hard. That was really difficult. But then luckily, ran the marathon, got my medal, enjoyed the rest of my vacation. The bag did arrive the day after the marathon, which was great. And then had a really nice time,
Starting point is 00:09:41 flew home, lost my bags on the way back. No? Really? They lost them again on the way back. No? Really? Yeah, they lost them again on the way back. I was like, what are we doing here? What are we doing here? Which is so crazy because I've always been fascinated by the bag losing thing Americans talk about a lot. It's never happened to me in my life.
Starting point is 00:09:58 This is my first time, back to back. It has to be an American thing when you're taking internal flights within America. Right. I don't know why, I don't know why. It's never happened to me ever in my life. No clue. The invention of air tags has helped quite a lot
Starting point is 00:10:12 because I had one in my bag so I could always see where it was moving. You're having to tell the airline where your bag is? Genuinely. They were like, help a brother out. Help a brother, we're going to be here for months. They were like, we think it's at the the Departures Lounge
Starting point is 00:10:25 in Heathrow Airport currently. I'm like, it's in Seattle. I can see it here at Ping two minutes ago in Seattle Airport. It's on the Ho Chi Minh Trail. How does that even, how did we get there? My gels are on the Ho Chi Minh Trail. You can hair tap for every gel.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Christmas is here. My coconut cream goo gel was eaten in Australia. So, you know, isn't that the greatest gift that I can give you is knowing that your best friend achieved a lifelong goal. No, I think like a Apple gift voucher or something would have been nice. But I like as well that, yeah, I should have clarified.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Whenever I asked, did you cry at the race? I was actually bringing some personal experience to that, which was not, I didn't even go to crying tears of happiness. I just cried during the race when I did my first marathon. Right, just because it was hot show. I was like, I can't do it, man. Yeah, I got close to that as well.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I texted my brother at one point and I was like, there is a 20% chance I don't do this. Why are you texting? You're texting during the race. I texted him, he was doing the marathon as well. I should say that'd be weird if he wasn't. But I was texting because I didn't want to stop running. I was texting using Siri on my airpods. Do you know what's funny? So by the end I was like Siri, new message, text Colleen, I ain't gonna make it. So, but now it's done and it's over with and Christmas is here and we can just enjoy it. We really can because there's nothing worse
Starting point is 00:11:54 than going into Christmas with something like hanging over you, right? Right. That you've got to like, imagine you had to run the marathon on frigging boxing day or something. So glad to know Rory, you are decompressed. Don't switch off that noodle right away though. We're gonna need your investigative skills
Starting point is 00:12:09 for today's story. I'm like, we can finally move on. Nothing hanging over me. Still waiting on the bag. Bag is still, I think it's in North Dakota currently, but it is on the way, they've assured me. It is the most magical time of the year, Rory. And as it happens, also one of the most magical time of the year Rory, and as it happens also one of the most paranormal.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It should be no secret to our listeners at least that the religious celebration of Jesus' birth, Christmas, the ancient pagan marking of the winter solstice on the 21st of December, and the darkest day of the year means that the veil between the world of the living and the dead are at their most thin in the dead of winter. For hundreds of years humans have celebrated this thinning of the veil by gathering around the Yule log to tell ghost stories. And today I'll be telling you the most haunting Christmas ghost story of all, one that's
Starting point is 00:13:00 considered one of the most believable ghost stories ever. Wow, okay. All that after a quick festive break to hear some words from our sponsors. And remember every episode of This Paranormal Life is available ad free right now at patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life. Links in the description. Our story begins in Norfolk, England during the Victorian era. Captain Frederick Marriott, a naval officer and writer,
Starting point is 00:13:29 is visiting the Barron at Raynham Hall, a huge country house and seat of the aristocratic Townsend family. Even by 1836, the house is already over 200 years old and has been associated with strange ghostly tales for years. Now, fun fact, Captain Marriott is actually a friend of the Christmas ghost story legend, Charles Dickens. But he isn't there to get some inspiration
Starting point is 00:13:56 for a paranormal story. Quite the opposite. Captain Marriott is staying at Raynham Hall to disprove the ghost stories. Ah, little bit of a flip there. It must be hard to be a writer and have one of your buddies being Charles Dickens. Yeah, for fuck's sake.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Cause you're like, you know, I actually wrote some cool stuff too. I actually wrote about this cat that can skateboard and the cat's name is Mikey and he's like a really cool guy. And Charles is like, cool, I wrote kind of a genre defining piece of literature that will echo through the ages and be immortalized
Starting point is 00:14:30 in plays and films till the end of human existence. Like, yeah. So Mikey, he's friends with another cat called Daniel, and they like, he has rollerblades. And the Mikey book has got rejected by about 15 publishers, but hey, every writer gets rejected a bunch of times before they get the deal. Charles is like, not me.
Starting point is 00:14:49 No, no, no. They pretty much picked up a Christmas car right away. Yeah, they were big into the whole theme of ghosts. Mikey could have ghosts. He could be a ghost. I'll kill him now in the books. Turn him into a ghost. When's yours Christmas? I'll do Easter. He's the Easter cat. Mikey the Easter cat is the name of the book now.
Starting point is 00:15:08 That's right, Captain Marriott is trying to disprove some long-held ghost stories. He believes that local smugglers have just popularized these tales to keep people away from the area. So Marriott has asked specifically to spend the night in the most haunted room in the house to prove once and for all that the Raynham house has no ghosts. Rory, as a quick aside, quick pick of the house. Nice, old timey mansion. It looks great. Looks like it's from a Resident Evil game. Now after a day exploring the house, he's just about to retire to bed, when two nephews of the Baron who
Starting point is 00:15:45 are staying in the bedroom next to him wanted to show off their new hunting pistol fresh from London before bed. You see my old pistol was quite good against a fox but less so against the poor a bit messy really. Yes delightful arms chaps these guns will serve you well in the next pheasant shoot. More like peasant shoot, am I right? Very good, Master Townsend. Always a quick wit.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Much obliged, Captain Marriott. But sometimes in the dead of night at Christmas, here in Rainham. Have I pronounced that correctly? Rainham? The place we live? Yes, it's your uncle's house. That was my first time saying it. I would have thought you would have thought you'd know.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I get the sense this rifle might be more use indoors. Oh, these ghost stories. You don't believe that old twaddle, do you? I do. That was the other nephew in the background. I do. I do. He does.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Ha ha ha ha. Hmm. It's almost midnight. Yes, best retire. Good night, chaps. But as the captain heads for the hallway, the baron's nephews follow him. We'll accompany you, sir, in case you meet the brown lady. Ha! The what? She walks the hall, sir. A lady who lived here a hundred years ago or more.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Especially at this time of year. You should know her, captain. Her portrait hangs in your very room. Ah, yes. What nonsense. Well, accompany me if you must." They wandered into the corridor together. It was dark and cold, and as they
Starting point is 00:17:25 got closer to Mariette's room, they saw something strange. Uh oh. Oh shit. Where's the rifle? Brother, get the blicky. I've got the toolie past the town's end. I've got your ass covered. Wap, wap, wap, wap, wap. Cousin, f*** them up. Wap, wap, do your stuff. Marriott's like, I don't have a f***ing clue what you boys are saying. There must be black mold in the house. It's gone to your bloody head. Rory, excitingly, we actually have Marriott's account
Starting point is 00:18:01 from the horse's mouth of what happened. The corridor was long and dark, for the lights had been extinguished, but as we reached the middle of it, we saw the glimmer of a lamp coming towards us from the other end. And by the way, the lamp was all it took. Marriott stopped being a badass absolutely immediately. He basically went, oh shit, jump behind one of the bedroom doors in the hallway. And with the door open, just a creak for him to still see the hallway until the brown lady passed them by and the nephews copied him straight away.
Starting point is 00:18:37 This guy's a captain. Yes. And he hid immediately from a lamp. Hey, everyone knows the captain just draws up the plans. Yeah. Brother man. You know, maybe he'll make an appearance on the frontline. All right, lads, into battle, hurrah!
Starting point is 00:18:51 And then they all run and he kind of pretends to jog for a second, but he lets everyone overtake him. He's got an Uber on the way. Yeah, give me back to the Palisades app. Marriott would describe how he watched her, the brown lady approaching nearer and nearer, through the chink of the door, until she was close enough for him to distinguish the colours and style of her costume.
Starting point is 00:19:15 He recognised the figure as the same from the portrait of the brown lady in his room. He had his finger on the trigger of his revolver and was about to demand it to stop and give the reason for its presence there. When the figure stopped of its own accord, right in front of the door where he was standing, she slowly lifted the lamp to her face, revealing her terrifying features. She grinned in a malicious and diabolical manner oh Marriott was furious he sprang into the corridor and discharged his revolver right in her face oh my god the figure instantly disappeared right well so with the head of a human if you shot that close. No, no, no. She was gone already. She disappeared into a pile of red mist.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And it was weird. Her body, like, it was like it turned her into a human because her body was still there. Right, she was freed from the ghostly curse. Yes. All three men watched it happen. And Marriott would never attempt again to interfere with the Brown Lady of Raynam. Ooh, wow, surprise that worked. I didn't know you could just shoot a ghost in the head.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Thought that would be kind of something they would be impervious to. Yeah, I don't know if it's like any physical interaction would have dissipated. Like our ghosts sometimes like a haze of Kush smoke. You can just waft your arm through it and just kind of dissipate. I guess. Is it like a mist or, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:50 Right, can you just run through them and they're gone? I don't know. Uh, man, Marriott was really ready to shoot an innocent maid in the face, wasn't he? Yes! He didn't look for any proof that this was a ghost before he started blasting. If anything, we know he didn't believe in ghosts. That was his whole thing. He was very quick to shoot a woman.
Starting point is 00:21:09 But I think, you know, yes, does this say something about women's place in society in the 1800s? Potentially. But it also says something about, yeah, Marriott's beliefs. I mean, maybe he actually believed more than he was letting on. Maybe by virtue of him going to disprove the existence
Starting point is 00:21:28 of these ghosts, he was actually subconsciously trying to face his own fears about the thing. Maybe he was trying to prove to himself the ghost didn't exist. And it didn't last. He shot a servant. He shot a servant in the head. He didn't shoot a servant.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It sounds like. There's a ghost now. I know we've done recent stories about like people being locked away, secrets, dirty secrets in castles. To my knowledge, this was not one of them. I think if the brown lady wasn't a thing yet and he was trying to make it a thing, you'll never guess what I saw last night, gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:21:57 The brown lady, but it was already a thing. It was already a thing. As we've heard, Raynham Hall had been haunted for generations before Captain Fred Marriott's visit. And it's said that at Christmas, visitors to the house would see a woman with a very old brown dress and disfigured face wandering the dark corridors at night. Ooh! at night. The most famous sighting of all had only taken place one year earlier, Christmas 1835. Lord Townsend had invited a number of guests for the festive celebrations, but by the first night,
Starting point is 00:22:37 guests were convinced they had either heard or seen something in the house at night. It was at one of those dinners that a Mr. Hawkins was retiring to bed. Merry Christmas everyone! What a lovely day! Thank you all. Now if you don't mind, I'll take my leave. Good night everyone. Good night Mr. Hawkins. Good night Mr. Hawkins. Hawkins, Hawkins! Colonel Loftus, what is old boy? Please, be careful up there. Alone in the corridors. You know what I saw. I know what you thought you saw, Mr. Loftus. I also know what a few too many brandies can do to a man's mind, eh? Didn't you wake up in a pool of your own piss this morning?
Starting point is 00:23:19 Alright, this is scripted by the way. I just want to make sure everyone knows. Kit wrote that line as part of it for the character. How dare you. Yeah, how dare you write that about me. How dare you? That has nothing to do with what I saw and you know it. Look, don't worry about me, sir, and get yourself some rest. Hawkins went upstairs and the party continued. Until suddenly, a noise from upstairs cut through the festivities
Starting point is 00:23:51 from upstairs hawkins screamed right there on the landing just like loftus had predicted he had encountered the brown lady so quickly after assuring everyone it wasn't real. I think I'll be just fine. I'm off to bed now. I'll see Jesus Christ. Boom, boom, boom. Shooting it in the back of the head. She appeared with an oil lamp in hand
Starting point is 00:24:17 and he knew it was her when he saw the old fashioned brown dress. He said, quote, he saw the specterers empty eye sockets dark in her glowing face Jeez and this sighting actually caused so much upset among the staff at random hall that many resigned Soon after because they're tired of their colleagues getting shot in the head They're like the brown dress is the uniform you put us all in. You keep killing the staff. What is the, maybe we're gonna get onto it, but is the relevance of this today
Starting point is 00:24:53 being kind of a Christmas story that the ghost appears on Christmas? She likes to appear at Christmas. Now, does that mean something happened to her at Christmas? Does it mean she departed this earth at Christmas? But something about Christmas itself makes the brown lady appear to haunt Raynham Hall. Hey, Christmas is a great time of year.
Starting point is 00:25:12 If you're a ghost and you maybe get to choose 24 hours to come back to the world of the living, I'm not surprised all the ghosts don't come back on Christmas. Right. You know? It's the only time I see my uncle. He appears on Christmas and I don't see him again. You know a few ghosts of Christmas past.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Yeah. There's a lot of family that are essentially ghosts in my life. Uncle Larry? He's not welcome any other day but Christmas Day. My family tolerate him for Christmas Day. Yeah. So I'm not surprised if ghosts are turning up to join the festivities. Yeah. I like that angle that they might just like it. It could be to do with, at the intro, I like that angle that they might just like it. It could be to do with at the intro I described the kind of ancient thinning of the veil which allows the dead to pass through to the world of the living. Could be that too. Could be they just
Starting point is 00:25:55 want toys. Could be they want stuffing. Yeah. It is fucked up isn't it that we kind of relegate stuffing to one day of the year? Um, well, Americans would have it on Thanksgiving as well. They get double stuffed. Yeah, like Oreos. But I know what you mean. It should just be a casual thing. I shouldn't be judged by society for eating a bag of stuffing with my hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:16 It's kind of just a snack. Well, hold on. With your hand, it makes it sound like a bag? Yeah, just like a sack of it. It doesn't sound like it's not even cooked. It's dry. Well, you don't have to cook it. It's all done, isn't it, already? Like apples? What. You don't have to cook it. Yeah, it's disgusting. It's all done, isn't it, already?
Starting point is 00:26:25 Like apples? What? You don't have to cook them, they're just ready to go? Like a fruit? Yeah, like stuffing, it's like apples. You just eat them. No, really? No?
Starting point is 00:26:34 Okay. Dry stuffing? I think I'm ill. I'm ill. I've been eating frozen stuffing by the bag for the last two days. It's the best bit, let me tell you. It really is good. Also, kind of weirdly, put it up a turkey's ass.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I'm just gonna say it. Hey, don't look at me, I'm vegan. That's a you guys thing. That is, yeah. You guys need to reckon with that. Yes, are vegetarian sausages weird? Is tofu weird? Is a nut roast sounds like when a bunch of your friends
Starting point is 00:27:01 make fun of your penis? These are all true things about vegetarian food, but it's still not as weird as shoving stuffing up a turkey's ass, all right? That's true, yeah. Not roasts. They're making fun of your balls. But Rory, it's at this point in a ghost investigation we need to start answering some questions.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Who was the brown lady? What did she want? And like you pointed out, why Christmas? Why not Easter? Like the Easter cat. The famous bestselling novel. Yes, after the guy died, it went on to become a bestseller. That's the sad thing. He was ridiculed during his life. He hated Easter and then he was visited by the ghost of three mice he ate. Mice, not even bunnies? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Well, on this paranormal life, usually when we're trying to identify a ghost and match them to a once living person, we usually find ourselves looking for tortured individuals, right? People who had miserable lives and then returned to the present world to become of some injustice or some suffering. Well, in the history of Raynham Hall, there's really only one possibility, Dorothy Walpole. You said there's a painting of her.
Starting point is 00:28:17 It's not a mystery. You said she's got a portrait on a wall. But the portrait could be of just the brown lady. Like they're like, hey, we don't know who it is they painted the ghost they see the ghost so much they fainted oh I'm painting of a ghost on the wall actually awesome point you made it's a big blow it's a big old blow hole damn just skimming over that Dorothy's life started off well, at least. She was born into aristocracy and privilege.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Dorothy was right at the heart of the British society. Her brother Robert would go on to become the Prime Minister, but she wouldn't be so lucky. She married the second Viscount of Townsend, Charles Townsend, and moved to Raynham Hall to start a family. But soon Charles's reputation for angry jealousy appeared. Yikes. When Charles discovered that Dorothy Walpole had had a previous relationship with a cheeky scamp by the name of Lord Wharton. Oh! He was furious.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Wharton was a man famous for his debaucherous lifestyle. Townsend couldn't handle it, and he locked Dorothy in a room at Raynham Hall, forbidding her from any contact with the outside world, and even her children. Not cool, man. And it's said that Dorothy died mysteriously. Some say of smallpox, others believe she was simply pushed down the stairs in 1726. Shouldn't laugh. There is even a rumour that a fake funeral was staged and she might have spent an entire lifetime locked away in her personal prison cell. Glam's Castle style.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Glam's Castle. Glad we figured out the pronunciation of that one in the end. Yeah, go f*** yourself. Alright. No, god damn it. out the pronunciation of that one in the end Yeah go f*** yourself I got roasted for that one Sauteed and flambéed Now as to why Dorothy would appear every Christmas It's unclear My personal theory is that must have been when she died Or when she was locked away
Starting point is 00:30:21 Meaning she kind of can't let the descendants of her evil husband enjoy Christmas. She has to remind them the descendants of her suffering every year by showing up. Kind of visiting the conscience of the Townsend family, a bit like Scrooge in A Christmas Con. Right, right. While they're kind of letting their guard down enjoying their Christmas, she turns up to be like, hey, well, my Christmas was like hey well my Christmas was ruined yeah by a guy who sure is dead now but still I want everyone to know I had a bad time she kind of floats in knocks over the gravy oh god damn it Dorothy just causing little inconveniences yeah yeah can someone check in the turkey Dorothy turned up the oven she turned up the
Starting point is 00:31:02 oven it's burnt to a cinder. Totally done. She's throwing sprouts at the windows. Yeah, Christmas is ruined. But I do love that mechanic for a ghost, like always appearing at a certain time. It's very like movie like, you know, once every 30 years when the moon goes in front of the sun, the spirits come to life. I would say not a bad time to get haunted, because you're already having such a good time on Christmas that if a ghost shows up, I probably wouldn't care. You know?
Starting point is 00:31:34 I'm already getting presents, I'm having a good time, we're playing charades. You're drunk, you're kind of insulated from reality. Well, you're certainly drunk if you're doing the Rory Powers 10 Liquid Challenge, which of course we will talk about later on in the episode. We can talk now about it. No, it's gonna be a long rant.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I think we should save it probably for the end. A rant? Yeah, it's gonna be a long one. So yeah, turn up on Christmas. Let's do it. Bring all the... Invite the ghosts. The More the Merrier is what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. God, well, I mean, it sounds kind of fairy tale-like and depressing, but as you say, Glam's Castle style, we know that this is how lords treated their ladies back in the day. Poorly.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Ladies, you think the dating pool is hard now. Imagine meeting Mr. Right, and then it turns out he's Mr. Satan, and he locks you in a tower forever. And boots you down a flight of stairs all Christmas day. It could be worse. But look, with Dorothy Walpole, basically the whole thing is long enough ago
Starting point is 00:32:32 that there's kind of several legends and we don't know for sure. But do you think- The painting! There's a painting of her on the wall! No, we know it's Dorothy. We know it's Dorothy. I appreciate the paintings of Dorothy. But do you think, I'm saying we don't know why she's hanging around or why Christmas, let's say.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Yeah, I would agree that's still a bit of a mystery. But do you think that would do it for a ghost? Would that push you over the edge of like wanting to haunt the living? I don't know. A lot of people die in horrible, more horrible ways than this. I don't want to throw any shade on this particular ghost. Look, I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. Oh? I'm gonna go ahead and say it. It's the elephant in the room here. Any paranormal case involving ghosts that we investigate,
Starting point is 00:33:13 where you say the name of a color and then woman, I turn off. I switch down my little brain. No, no, everyone should know that. Everyone should know that. We've been doing this. We've been in this game for seven years. So if you tell me about the white lady of X, or the blue woman of Y,
Starting point is 00:33:33 I power down like a robot. Because we've heard this story so many times. So now you're bringing in Dorothy, now you're bringing in names and dates, powering back up again, because you're getting a little bit more info. Okay, so you were bringing in names and dates. Woo, powering back up again. There's again, a little bit more info. Okay. So you were gone.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I was gone for large portions. So you're going to... Just for the YouTube audience, can we just cut in some video of Rory zoning out from earlier? Cause I think we've got that on. I think we've got that in HD. And hopefully we saw that. So yeah. Okay. I'm saying I'm back in now because we're getting a little bit more deep.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Well, Rory. It's still really nothing to do with Christmas. Hopefully... The Wind Tosser had more to do with Christmas than this. I don't think that's true. A Christmas ghost that appears only at Christmas to the haunting the Christmas people on Christmas Day. We could actually, if we've got time, we could actually talk about the Wind Taunt talking, right? Because I got new information from Krampus rib ticklers and knee slappers and
Starting point is 00:34:31 some more information I could discuss. Look, this next bit is gonna, you're already on, this is gonna send you into overdrive. All right. Okay, because, Roy, I'm glad you're bringing it up. Obviously, we're at that point in the episode where we need to see evidence. And I guess our listeners must have been good this year because, um, there's some evidence under the TPL Christmas tree today. Really? Of a ghost? Not only that, but some of the most famous paranormal evidence ever. And we're gonna find out exactly what's under the tree right after a couple of words from today's sponsors.
Starting point is 00:35:03 exactly what's under the tree right after a couple of words from today's sponsors. every occasion with DoorDash. In 1936, Country Life magazine commissioned Hubert C. Provand, a London-based photographer, to shoot the house for an article on stately homes. One more time, the name. Hubert C. Provand. He's a cartoon. And after capturing lots of interior shots of Raynham Hall, Provand and his assistant Indre Shearer set up at the bottom of the house's main staircase.
Starting point is 00:35:55 They were almost done for the day and were setting up for a final couple of shots. Provand was under the camera cloth adjusting the controls. Shearer stood with the flash gun, but suddenly something strange started to form on the stairway. Quick, quick, there's something. Are you ready? Yes, replied Provan and removed the cap from the lens. Shira would later describe, I pressed the trigger
Starting point is 00:36:20 of the flashlight pistol. After the flash and on closing the shutter, Captain Provan removed the focusing cloth from his head the trigger of the flashlight pistol. After the flash and on closing the shutter, Captain Provan removed the focusing cloth from his head and turning to me said, what's all the excitement about? Provan hadn't seen it, but Shira was convinced the brown lady appeared, coming down the oak stairs in front of them. When the flash gun went off, she disappeared into thin air. She said, I had distinctly seen a figure there, transparent, so that the steps were visible through her ethereal form, but nevertheless very definite and to me perfectly real.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Now, Provend was skeptical he'd never captured or indeed encountered anything supernatural in his many years of photographing. Legend has it he even bet Shira five pawns, over 400 quid today, that when they developed the negative it would show nothing. Well Indra would later describe the scenes in the dark room a few days later. They said, when the negatives of Raynham Hall were being developed I stood beside Captain Provand and one after the other they were placed in the developer. Suddenly Captain Captain ProVand exclaimed, Good Lord, there's something on the staircase negative after all. This is such a large build-up for this photo, so this better be impressive.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Wow, okay. Hey, this is a pretty cool picture. We are looking at, yeah, a photo of a staircase, and there's just kind of a white patch in the middle of it where it looks like the photo wasn't really developed but it is kind of in the shape of a figure, kind of a human figure, I guess it could be hair or a hood, coming down or up the stairs. That is a pretty cool picture, to be fair. If you don't believe in ghosts and you see that, you're gonna, it's gonna be a hard day picture, to be fair. If you don't believe in ghosts and you see that, you're gonna, it's gonna be a hard day to be a skeptic.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Hey, that's one of the least scathing things Roy's ever said about a photo, so I'll take that all day. It's a good picture. And this is, I appreciate, you know, a bit like on the infamous Spike Island episode. The little printout I've done isn't super high def, but you gather it's an old photo so it looks more or less like that. I'm impressed this is way
Starting point is 00:38:28 better evidence than I thought we were gonna get, which is a shame because I turned off again. Like right when you were reading that, I don't even know what we're looking at. I went, as soon as you started making old-timey camera sound effects with your mouth, I was like I'm gone. I'm back in Hawaii on the beach. But now you got me back again with the photo and I'll stay on like, I'm gone. I'm back in Hawaii on the beach. But now you got me back again with the photo and I'll stay on now, I'll try. A bit like Rory's luggage,
Starting point is 00:38:50 it's somewhere in North Dakota right now. His imagination is traveling across America at lightning speed. Look, when you've just investigated a bunch of paranormal stories, trying to remain interested for a extended period of time is like trying to maintain an erection. Take a...
Starting point is 00:39:05 Beyond 25, 30 seconds, it's borderline impossible. Okay. I need to be constantly stimulated. Fellas, if an episode of TPL persists longer than four hours, consult your doctor. You need to. Take Adderall. But now I'm...
Starting point is 00:39:18 You have undiagnosed ADHD. I don't know if you've noticed this, but the community has been rising up to tell Rory he has ADHD. They have. Yeah. In huge swathes. Because you've noticed this, but the community has been rising up to tell Rory he is ADHD. They have in huge swathes. Because you've been basically breadcrumb trailing clues of all your symptoms for years, that there's doctors in the community that are like, you are sick. You are sick in the head. You really need help.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Because I think one day you were like, you were like, yeah, caffeine makes me calm and makes me want to go to sleep. And there was doctors just banging on the YouTube comments like, yeah, caffeine makes me calm and makes me want to go to sleep. And there was doctors just banging on the YouTube comments, like, you need medication. But hey, you know, we'll take unmedicated Rory all day long because, you know, yes. You don't want me to have my thoughts together. He switches off every six minutes during a ghost investigation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:02 But when he's firing, he's firing. Yeah. The best thing that can happen for the government is me being able to form a cohesive thought. As soon as I can, it's game over. Folks, they are lucky I get distracted. Rory, this photograph has gone on to become one of the most infamous ghost photos in history. Maybe only behind the tulip staircase photo from the Queen's house in Greenwich. maybe only behind the tulip staircase photo from the Queen's house in Greenwich. Fittingly, this photo and its story was published on Boxing Day 1936 and it caused a publicity storm. The image appeared in Life magazine the following
Starting point is 00:40:36 week and has been fascinating the public ever since. There were of course many skeptics regarding the image but before we start accusing people of trickery in the lab room, there are several witnesses to the development of the image. Shira describes running downstairs to get the chemist of that photo development place, Mr. Benjamin Jones, the manager of Blake, Sanford and Blake, to come upstairs to the darkroom and verify for himself that what was on the image was purely on the photo negative. And even paranormal investigator Harry Price from back in the day weighed in on the subject saying I will say it once, I was impressed. I was told a simple story, the cap was off, the flash bulb fired,
Starting point is 00:41:20 and the results we now see in the photo. I not shake their story and had no right to disbelieve them It does look cool. I think you know we know that from Paranormal evidence in old-timey photos it is relatively easy to fake or for things to look like there is a ghost in frame Because those photos they need a long exposure time You know the equipment was very rough and raw so So, yes, people moving in frame, they looked like ghosts. They were blurry figures. If you just moved while the camera was being taken, you were kind of a half-faded version of yourself.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Yes. So we see a lot of photos that look like that. I will say this photo doesn't look like that. It looks like there's like a light burn or something in the middle of the shot. It's very cool. It's quite unique. Yeah, and maybe the only thing that's ever rattled me to do with this photo is some have said it looks maybe a little suspiciously like, let's say, a Virgin Mary statue.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Do you see that? Yeah, I can see it. You know, if you went to a Catholic church and Mary has, she specifically has that kind of like, a veil, essentially, which gives her this kind of, which is why it doesn't really look like just a head. It looks like a head with a veil. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:34 That is maybe the only criticism. But again, that would require a pretty skillful double exposure. That would require them taking a photograph of the staircase, then taking a photo of somehow just the statue of the Mary enough that it perfectly superimposes. Also very cool that someone said they saw it
Starting point is 00:42:57 before the photo was taken. They were like, take the photo, there's a ghost on the stairs before they even saw the photo. It's not like we got them developed and then we realized later, you know, this is happening beforehand, someone saw it. Rory, pretty cool stuff. We've heard a little bit about Dorothy Walpole, the woman in the painting that I could have
Starting point is 00:43:20 mentioned in the first sentence of the story, but I didn't. We've heard a little bit about her backstory, a seemingly convincing tale for why one might be haunting Raynham Hall, as well as multiple witnesses to the ghost. A man fired a revolver at the ghost, he was so convinced. Forgot about that. Might have been drunk, but I don't know. So look, should be said, controversial image.
Starting point is 00:43:44 One of the best pieces, allegedly, of ghost evidence, and yet so many people don't believe in it. The skeptics are always going to skeptic, as we should here in this paranormal life. Yeah. And for some people, they were not convinced, thinking it still is that double exposure, or maybe thinking that, you know, even let's say in the moments between
Starting point is 00:44:07 She-Ra and the captain going to get the chemist, they had already set up the photo so then the chemist thought it was really real and he told the story to everyone. Right. You know, like, was there some tomfoolery? That's for us to decide, Rory, at the end of an episode of this paranormal life. We have to take it all into account. Do we rely on the image? Do we rely on the stories to decide whether the story of the brown lady of Raynham Hall and her Christmas hauntings, are they real or not? I'm into the photo. I like the photo personally. Granted, I don't know enough about old-timey photography
Starting point is 00:44:39 to know how easy it would be to fake something like this. So it's hard to say. I also don't know these people, what their motivations would be to fake something like this. So it's hard to say. I also don't know these people, what their motivations would be either way. But in terms of photo evidence of a ghost, probably up there with the top three we've ever received on this podcast before. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Slightly wish this was not related to the story we mentioned in the first half. Sorry, why? Because that did nothing for me, really. You were switched off, you told me you were switched off. I was switched off a little bit, yeah, for sure. I told you, it's the same thing, brown lady, woman in white. Can we come back to Laurie's only house?
Starting point is 00:45:14 It doesn't do anything for me. Even like the history and the tragedy is like legends and rumors. Not any like documented proper information about the woman and how she died and when it happened or anything like that. Well, we know she existed and we know she died young. She died very young, 36 years old, I believe. Yeah, but that's like old timey money. 36 was like 103 back then.
Starting point is 00:45:37 No, no, it wasn't because her husband would have lived much longer. The bit that was contested was, was she really, and they really actually don't know this, was she really locked away? Some think she could have been, absolutely. Others say, hmm, her brother only lived maybe like, 15 miles away or something. He should have checked on her. And they were like, yeah, it doesn't,
Starting point is 00:45:59 like he would have known, surely. So, you know, so again, that's hard to, but like, that's just how she died. She could still have haunted it. Yeah, and I like the tie-in today to Christmas. Even if it's a bit of a loose tie-in, it is still quite cool, thematically, to have a ghost that only appears on.
Starting point is 00:46:16 It's a Christmas ghost story. You know what's funny is, my wife Danielle was, she loves Christmas, loves Christmas music. She's been listening to a lot. And the other day she had on, it's the most wonderful time. And you know, and in that song, he's like listing off all the things.
Starting point is 00:46:35 There'll be marshmallows toasting and hot chocolate roasting and you know. Yeah, yeah. And then funny enough, I'd never noticed it before, but she like kind of screwed up her face, and she was like, why did he throw in, we'll be telling ghost stories and da-da-da-da. And I was like, well, I can tell you because of what I said.
Starting point is 00:46:57 It's an old tradition of Christmas that we've mostly forgotten about. I love it, she's like, why are they talking about ghost stories? And you're like, do you ever listen to me when I talk about work? Because you should know, Danielle. You should know. I've told you many times about the connections between Christmas and ghosts. I'm like, huh, do you not like ghost stories?
Starting point is 00:47:14 Is there something wrong with ghost stories being part of Christmas? Is that f***ed up to you? Another great one is Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree. Right. It really does sound like, at one point in the song, the lady sings, later we'll have some pie. Which you can't unhear. You cannot unhear it. To the point where I had to like double check, like rewind the song and I was like,
Starting point is 00:47:36 did she just say we're gonna have some pie? Later we'll have some pie. It's so hard. It's pumpkin pie is what she says, but if you go back and listen to it, it's very hard not to hear f***ing pie. Which I'm all up for! That sounds way more badass!
Starting point is 00:47:54 Imagine being at the dinner table and you're like, Mom, can I get a slice of f***ing pie, please? Detention. Merry Christmas! Immediate detention. But right, back to the story. Yeah, we're having a bit of a weird problem today where usually I love the story, but the evidence disappoints me.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Today we're kind of having a flip of that where I love the evidence, but it's the story that kind of disappoints me. Right. It's almost like, you know, a restaurant where the food's amazing, but no atmosphere. Right. But shouldn't the restaurant be reviewed where the food's amazing, but no atmosphere. Right. But shouldn't the restaurant be reviewed on the food? Yeah. Shouldn't the story?
Starting point is 00:48:30 And yet the service was bad. Oh, was it? Yeah. Was it? I think the waiter worked pretty hard to bring you a story today. I mean, the waiter to bring you food. I think the, knowing the waiter, I think I know that he started cooking the food just mere moments ago and it was actually kind of rushed to the table then very little prep
Starting point is 00:48:48 Yeah, the table was barely set. It doesn't matter and it was delicious a meal It was absolutely gorgeous was served kind of with as little preparation as could be done All right, give it a yes or a no today in the case of the brown lady of Rainham Hall Even saying that pisses me off. No The surprise You can't do this I'm even saying that pisses me off. No You can't do this I know Why is story is rich enough and believable enough and have enough evidence? You're on the naughty list to say that it's real We can't still be calling the thing the brown lady that implies we know so little about this thing
Starting point is 00:49:22 Yeah, that would be better the ghost of Dorothy would have been a better thing. So that would have got you, well call her what you want brother. I'm gonna be a little closer. You can spank my ass and call me Sally, I'll let you call me whatever you want to get a yes. You can serve me up on a slice of pie if you want. I just, it's a no, I'm sorry. You don't even have any reasoning really, why? I just feel it in my heart. I know when a yes is there, I can feel it. He was so close, and that's what kills me.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I think he knows it's a yes, which is why I'm giving it a yes. You're giving it a yes today? Wow. Wow. So. It's a good picture. Which, you know, yes, I know there weren't any snowmen
Starting point is 00:50:00 in today's case, but like I say, Dickens style. Think of Dickens. This is bringing you an old-fashioned Christmas tale on Christmas Eve because I think it is a Christmas Eve thing. It's not really a Christmas day thing to do the ghost stories It's on the eve on the twilight on the precipice of the the spiritual day itself. That's when the spirits are mingling and I Know I wouldn't want to be in Raynham Hall this Christmas. We investigated a UFO that hit a cop car
Starting point is 00:50:32 and it exploded and you gave that a no. But today on the photo of a Christmas ghost being photographed by a stranger. You said it was a yes, definitively paranormal. Look, look, the brown woman. Look, is a yes. The timing was bad. The timing was real, real bad for your for your investigation. You're like I tuned out. Be honest a little bit and a lot has come to light in UFO UAP Congress disclosureAP, Congress, disclosure from people like Luis Elizondo.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Which we have. And other CIA insiders. Which we've talked about on the after party. Recently. At length, if you're interested. And I'm, Jesus Christ, and it's only kicking off more because we're going to need to talk about the New Jersey drones soon.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Uh, it is really kicking off in UFO land. I was a little early to the party. I think, I, I hate to admit that had, been put it this way, had you hosted that case after thousands of circular drones took to the New Jersey sky this December, yeah, my conclusion might have been different. A little different. Yeah. But instead I got the no.
Starting point is 00:51:42 I was flabbergasted by the concept at the time. Right. And now we've got footage after footage of little balls flying through the air. And now everyone's coming to Rory, Rory, what do we do? What do we do? How do we deal with this? You knew about this and I'm like, well, well, well, look who comes crawling back. I think I had to tell you about the New Jersey Drones.
Starting point is 00:52:01 You were in Hawaii all week. I missed it. I missed it completely. Look, thank you for listening, Rory. I know that took every milligram of caffeine from your Monster Energy drink to keep your noodle engaged, switched on for this case. It was a long one.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Thank you for staying with us. Thank you at home for listening to this Christmas Eve special. Oh my goodness. It is our honor and privilege to be with you this festive season, whether you're tuning in right now with us on Christmas Eve on YouTube or on your podcast player.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Yeah. Or whether you're gonna kind of tune in in the weird days between Christmas and New Year, we got you covered. It's a joy to have you with us. You know, at the time this is being released, we are mere moments from Santa himself coming down the chimney. And we are also mere moments from kicking off the second year
Starting point is 00:52:50 of the Rory Powers 10 Liquid Challenge. Oh yeah. That's right. If you listen to the podcast, some of you might know that last year, only last year we started a little tradition, which is a challenge for the commune and listeners of this podcast
Starting point is 00:53:04 to see if they can consume 10 different liquids within the 24 hours of Christmas. This all started because it was only last year that I raised the question, is Christmas day, the day of the year where you drink the most amount of different liquids? Right. Because you have a lot of stuff that you usually wouldn't have. Water, for example usually wouldn't have. Water, for example. Wouldn't usually have that on any other day.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Juice, tea, Baileys, Muld wine, regular wine, champagne, Prosecco. Lots of different drinks all together on the one day. Weird to buy champagne and Prosecco. So it became a big thing where last year was the first year that myself and a bunch of members of the Commune decided to join the hashtag RP10LC challenge and see if they could do it and loads of people in the commune got involved there were threads on our Facebook group people were posting on Instagram using the hashtag RP10LC and it was so fun everyone was tracking their progress I'm gonna be doing it
Starting point is 00:54:04 again this year. A couple people people died, couple people died. A few, only a few. But our lawyer has reminded us to say that the connection with the challenge itself is disputed. So they might, I think they had underlying conditions probably. I think so. Even though some of them weren't even doing it with alcohol. One dude drowned, he just drowned.
Starting point is 00:54:22 He'd never drunk that so much liquid in his life. You know, a lot of people have been asking me about the rules. And the official rule is follow your heart as it's Christmas. Yeah. So kind of- It's kind of an honor system.
Starting point is 00:54:35 It's an honor system, self-policing. Someone asked is gravy a liquid? No, of course not. Don't be stupid. See, what I would say is- That's food. See, what I would say, I kind of agree. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:44 But what I would say is in the spirit of follow your heart and use your gut instinct, it's like, boom, is gravy a liquid? Why don't you tell me, brother, get down on one knee and chug that boat. If you can drink it, it's a liquid. Ah! But what I'm saying is if you pour it over your dinner, no.
Starting point is 00:55:01 No, you are consuming the liquid, but still. If you're willing to drink a pint of it, be my guest. I think I actually, on Instagram, I did a story which was documenting the entire 10 Liquid Challenge that I did last year. Oh, you saved it, archived the story? I saved it, it's a highlight, and I think I'm gonna do it again this year.
Starting point is 00:55:18 So if you're doing it, get involved, tweet at us or post on Instagram with the hashtag RP10LC. And this is so close to being a good idea. Like I think we just need to parlay the TROY PARKS 10 Liquid Challenge into like now like raising money for like a water charity or something. Right. Like there's a thing there. But not this year. That's for next year. This year it's all just for fun, for banks.
Starting point is 00:55:45 That's a real, that's a very sweet idea. Maybe next year we should do it as a challenge. Like in hindsight, not that hard a challenge to consume. I don't know how many people would donate to the challenge of me drinking 10 different liquids in a day.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Probably should have done something for the marathon in hindsight that I just did. That would have been good. Yeah. That's a real hard thing. I assumed you did. No, no, I actually stole a bunch of money for that.
Starting point is 00:56:05 All right. Yeah. We did hear you lost all your stuff, so I guess you were in need before we turned up to the YMCA. I was like, please, I need clothes. So Merry Christmas. Hope you're going to have a great time with your family, and hope you're going to consume 10 different liquids in 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Yikes. Don't tell anyone we already told you to do it. And thank you so much for tuning in this Christmas. This is not the end of this Paranormal Life calendar year. Oh no, my friends. We are back next week on Tuesday again for a big Christmas Eve look back at the year. We don't sleep.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Nuh-uh. We don't rest. We don't take breaks. Yes, the next week's episode is kind of a best of. When you switch off halfway through a podcast, you don't been taking a break. I'm like the Elf Lord Legolas. I can run with my eyes closed. I can podcast in my dreams. That's how long we've been doing this for. Yeah, we're gonna have a best of episode which is actually one of my favorite episodes because I get to Compile a list of all my favorite moments over the last year
Starting point is 00:57:11 Hopefully some of yours too and then we intro from your boy, of course Checking in on New Year's Eve. Of course and we've got our big end of year Q&A episode. Did you already say that? I switched off No, no, no. Yeah, shout out patreon.com. We do need to plug it. We need to go, we're going too long. We're going way too long. Patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life is where you can support the friggin' show, but also- Why don't you give us a present this year for once? All right, cool it.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Actually, why don't you get us a present this year? Not about sentiment, but the tone is all wrong. No, I'm sick of giving. I'm sick of giving and I wanna receive. You're lounged back in your chair that the patrons paid for. Yeah, they paid for the chair. They done been given a lot. Actually, bought me this soda. Yeah. Because we paid for it with a company card. Diet Coke isn't a company expense.
Starting point is 00:57:58 You should say thank you. Yeah, actually that was pretty chill of you. Thank you. So thank you to our lovely patrons here. Can't wait to see what you get me next year. Every month. You little bastards. But crucially, it's not just a way of helping the show. Obviously, it's a store. That's where you can get every episode of this Paranormal Life ad free, but also hundreds of bonus episodes of this Paranormal Life.
Starting point is 00:58:20 We're talking main, like, investigations, monthly bonus episodes, we've got weekly behind the scenes on the after party, we have giveaways, merchandise, so much stuff. So look, I'm gonna come out and say, if your family are weird, we've all got weird family members and you're hiding in your room over the Christmas period, you're like, yeah, oh, super tired, gonna have a lie down. You're just trying to get away from Uncle Trevor. Hit up Patreon, all the entertainment you know, you're like, yeah, oh, super tired, gonna have a lie down. You're just trying to get away from Uncle Trevor.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Yeah. Hit up Patreon. All the entertainment you could put in. And you know your dad is hogging the f***ing Apple TV. So you can't even watch Shogun on Disney Plus like you've been meaning to. So you take the iPad upstairs, go to Patreon in the Patreon app or on the website and go to This Paranormal Life. Yeah. Alternatively, if your family are normal, but you're the weird one, you're gonna love it on Patreon
Starting point is 00:59:09 because there's a bunch of weird shit over there. You can kind of put it through the loudspeakers, trap them in a room and force them to listen to the podcast. So if your dad's like, you're weird, we're going for a walk and he leaves you with the aforementioned Apple TV, navigate to the YouTube app, check out some full-length episodes. So many good reasons.
Starting point is 00:59:27 We're everywhere, we're everywhere. Also, if your dad says you're weird and you disagree, then you can say, you think I'm weird? Listen to these guys. Then hit play on our weirdest episodes, which are all on Patreon. You seem normal by association. And then all of a sudden you're reunited with your father at Christmas. He's like, you're not so weird after all, son.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Those two boys are truly ill. A lot of great reasons to go on Patreon this Christmas. Clearly, the link for it is in the description of this podcast. If you're on YouTube, check out the description. If you're in your podcast player, swipe up. It's under the description of this episode. Click all those links.
Starting point is 01:00:08 As I say, we're going to be back next week with our best of 2024 roundup. In the meantime, have a Merry Christmas. Happy holidays to you and yours. Bye bye.

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