This Paranormal Life - #410 The Kelly Cahill ABDUCTION

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

In August, 1993, Kelly Cahill and her partner encountered a strange row of orange lights floating in the night sky. After a BURST of white light, they found themselves further down the road, with an h...our and a half of missing time. It was an encounter too frightening to remember - until it became too terrifying to forget.Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.comEdited by Philip Shacklady Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Can aliens visit us in our dreams? If counting sheep helps you fall asleep, will counting wolves keep you awake? All of these questions you can find the answer to on THIS PARANORMAL LIFE! Hello everyone and welcome back to This Paranormal Life, the comedy, paranormal podcast where every week we investigate a brand new paranormal tale and decide once and for all whether or not it is paranormal. My name is Rory Powers.
Starting point is 00:00:29 The gentleman sitting across from me, his name is Kit Greer. We have been investigating the paranormal ever since we entered this world. Because you know what's maybe the most paranormal thing of all time? A mother's love. And that's the first thing that you experience as you enter this
Starting point is 00:00:45 universe. That or a father's hatred. It was interesting to get the second thing. Yeah. Are you sleepy or something or like slipped out of my mother's warm embrace and quickly approached the cocked fist of my father. That's not all right. That's right. That's right. Am I sleepy? I would say it was a different time, but it was the nineties, that's not all right. That's right. That's right. Am I sleepy or something? I would say it was a different time, but it was the 90s. It's not really. What?
Starting point is 00:01:08 You calling me out for being sleepy? What are you talking about? Yeah, just some kind of sleepy-pilled intro questions there. You know, some honks. Oh, I didn't. Some honks new ass questions on the top of the app there. I didn't actually even realize those were both about sleep.
Starting point is 00:01:22 It's like when both of my intro questions are coincidentally about sandwiches. It means we should probably go for lunch. Yeah. Yes, can aliens visit us in our dreams? Will counting wolves help keep you awake? I'm fine, I'm fine, don't worry about me. Yeah, we are both kind of just past
Starting point is 00:01:40 the jet lag portion of our year. Exactly. So no, I think we're doing good. Yeah, I'm doing great. I had beautiful dreams last night in all 45 minutes of sleep. What? You mean you were talking about a nap yesterday
Starting point is 00:01:57 or something? No, no, no, no. I had just under an hour sleep last night, specifically 45 minutes. Why? Because I was up with this case. That's why brother. Jesus. That's why. You waited until last night start writing this thing? Yeah I did actually because I had a busy weekend. I invited some people over here to the studio and we got drunk and watched High School Musical 1, 2 and 3 back to back. You know this. Which is a
Starting point is 00:02:24 really, which is a long amount of You know this. Which is a really... Which is a long amount of films to watch, like that is a good eight hours, nine hours total. Yeah. Runtime without bathroom breaks, which I know your baby bladder was taking a couple. Oh, yeah, of course. Well, when you drink as many buzz balls as I do,
Starting point is 00:02:37 yeah, you're going to need a bathroom break. But there's still more hours in the weekend than that. I don't deserve this. Kit, you need to get your head in the game. It's a little High School Musical joke. Because we're- I was never gonna get that. He's never seen the movies.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Because I'm an adult, so I probably wouldn't want that movie. Because I have a case that once you hear it today, I hope you had a good sleep last night, you little f***er, because you're never gonna sleep again in your life. Okay, you're saying it's hard hitting, it's gonna keep me up at night worrying about the state of the world. I'm saying if you ever want to sleep again, stop the podcast now.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Right. What's about to happen is going to change the trajectory of your lives. On some spooky shit. If you didn't believe in the paranormal yet, after listening to 400 and whatever episodes of this podcast, you're gonna believe in it after this one. I will say, you know, I think the listeners and me would have noticed a little bit of pattern over the years. Sometimes Rory leads us to the last minute to investigate a case.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Sometimes he stays up during the night, lets us know about it, that he got that case ready. You know, he gets real excited is what I'm trying to... He gets, he gets ramped up. He gets really excited. He hasn't slept. So his critical thinking skills are diminished. I haven't slept because I'm so excited. He hasn't spent a ton of time on the kind of scientific possibilities for that given
Starting point is 00:03:54 case. I'm just saying we've seen this pattern before. I'm not saying they end up being bad cases, but I'm just saying... What are you saying? What did you say? We're all collectively never going to sleep again due to the ramifications of today's episode. Yeah, and I mean that, that wasn't an exaggeration.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Yes, I did finish writing this episode about 15 minutes ago, kind of scrambling to get all the papers together. And then right before we hit record. It's like five in the evening, literally. Right before we hit record, I said, wait, hold on, let me see if there's any pictures of this shit. I googled the words, hit to the Google image search tab and said, holy f***.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So you hadn't even googled the topic up until 15 minutes ago. I hadn't googled image searched! I hadn't googled image searched! I'd done a regular Google search, but I hadn't gone to the second tab yet! That's how much shit was in the original, okay? In the story. I didn't have time to go to the second tab yet. That's how much that's how much shit was in the original Okay in the story. I didn't have time to go to the images yet. He didn't sorry you were drinking. Sorry I was up last night counting wolves To try and stay awake Um, I am barely joking today. We are investigating one of the most bizarre, terrifying, and downright insane alien abduction stories I've ever come across in all my years as a paranormal investigator. This account is regarded by many as the holy grail of UFO encounters,
Starting point is 00:05:17 and became so famous it's even mentioned by name in an episode of The X-Files. Honestly, I don't want anyone to get too excited. We might have another shag harbor on our hands. Well, hopefully not. So Kit, listeners of the podcast, sit back, relax, and enjoy the tale of the Kelly Cahill abduction. But before we dive into today's episode,
Starting point is 00:05:43 we just want to remind you, you can get every episode of this paranormal life ad free over on patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life. There's a bunch of amazing cool rewards over there. So check it out. It's the best way to support the show and to ensure that kid over here, he won't be sleeping for the next six years. Right. So I have a lot of time. I have a lot of time to watch those subscriptions roll in.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Link is in the description of this episode. Let's dive in. It's August 7th, 1993 in Gippsland, Australia. And Kelly Cahill and her then husband, Andrew, were driving along the Belgrave Hallam Road. It was late and the vast darkness of the night stretched out around them in every direction. I can't wait to have a drink tonight. It's been ages since I've seen Sarah. Oh no. How long till we reach that place? Another half hour or so.
Starting point is 00:06:39 We should be there by seven if... What's that? Over there by the tree line. Kelly glanced out of her window to see a strange line of circular orange lights. There must have been around five or six glowing in the distance. Is there a firework show or something tonight? I've no idea. The pair didn't think much more of it
Starting point is 00:07:00 and continued on their journey to visit their friends. From there, the night unfolded like any other. Kelly and her husband even told their friends what they'd seen on the drive over when they all laughed it off. At the end of the night, they said goodbye and walked back to their car to begin the journey home. But as they drove down the same dark road, Kelly couldn't help but glance back over towards the field. And there, still hanging in the sky, were the same six orange lights. Uh, Kit, I actually have a recreation of what Kelly saw that night, just to give you an idea of what we're talking about in this situation. All right, that is, uh... yep.
Starting point is 00:07:42 It's kind of what you would expect. A dark road only being lit up by the headlights. And kind of in the midst of all the darkness, a kind of slightly arched line of glowing orange lights. Yeah, it is arched in the manner it could be shaped like an orb. For sure. Yeah, it's cylindrical. It's not in a line, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Not a straight line. A little curve to curve. Could all be one object too. That was a very astute observation. Well, I mean, it's also just a recreation. I mean, is this from their testimony? Is that the idea? This is from Kelly's description. She turned to her husband, Hey, I don't like the look of those lights.
Starting point is 00:08:20 But as they traveled down the road, she realized this wasn't six different objects. It was six glowing windows. wasn't six different objects. It was six glowing windows. All on what appeared to be one craft hovering in the sky like a blimp. Kelly said, I could then see that the orange lights were really windows. I turned and said to my husband,
Starting point is 00:08:42 There's people in there. Then, without warning, the object took off at incredible speed, moving almost instantaneously to the other side of the road. What the hell is that thing? Just keep driving! All of a sudden, everything went white! Kelly's consciousness jumped back into her body.
Starting point is 00:09:05 What the? Where the hell am I? She looked up. The car was still rolling down the road, but her surroundings looked different. They had traveled several hundred meters down the road in what felt like a second. Kelly said it felt like a cut to scene in a film. She turned to her partner. Andrew, where? What happened?
Starting point is 00:09:29 He slowly turned to face her. I... don't know. We are seeing something crazy unfold before us. A classic case of missing time. And let me tell you, this is only the beginning. Usually this is where we would stop in the story and I'd say, Kit, what are your thoughts so far? Have we seen anything like this before in an episode of this?
Starting point is 00:09:52 Shut the f*** up! We don't have time today! We don't. It's been stolen. So I, Rory, you don't have to say another word. I get it, my brother. They look outside the car, stegosaurus, pterodactyl in the sky. It's 65 million years of missing time. Yeah, that's right. The present day, Neuron reversing all through human evolution,
Starting point is 00:10:17 back to early land reptiles. No. I see what you're saying. It was unmistakable that time had passed at all, you know? No, that's the opposite of missing time. That's extra time. I see what you're saying. It was unmistakable that time had passed at all, you know? No, that's the opposite of missing time. That's extra time. I see what you're saying. You went back so far.
Starting point is 00:10:31 They look out the window, spacecraft on every corner, humans evolved, past recognition, f***ing tentacles coming out of their head. That would be missing time technically if you jumped that far, but we're gonna get into the- Three boobs on the chest of every human being? Yeah, still on earth. Still normal amounts of titties on every individual. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no they noticed that they'd arrived home 90 minutes later than they should have. That means an hour and a half of their journey home was completely unaccounted for.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Unfortunately, missing time was about to be the least of their worries. Days later, when Kelly was getting dressed, she noticed a small mark below her belly button. Oh, second belly button. F*** me. That's not good. I think you're going to say like whenever you get like a vaccine, you got a tiny pinprick. I'm telling you this story is f***ed. Second f***ing belly button.
Starting point is 00:11:35 No, no, no one said a second. Third nipple. Like what I said, three breasts. She's the next evolution. The mark was a small red triangular shape with each side around 10 millimeters in length. But it was deep, as if several layers of skin within this marking had been burned away. By itself, this would be a pretty wild claim to make during a UFO abduction story. But as I said earlier in this podcast, when old Roar Dog flipped over to the Google Images tab, he was surprised at the amount of evidence that came forward.
Starting point is 00:12:09 20 minutes ago. Kit, I have a photo of that marking on her body that I believe was taken sometime a lot further down the line when this was brought to the attention of paranormal investigators. But it is still photographed for us today. It's a second belly button, ladies and gentlemen. Not a second belly button. It is unmistakable. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:12:31 What? What? Weird, isn't it? It doesn't really look like you described, though. What did you say? Triangles and shit? A small red triangular shape with each side around 10 millimeters. This looks like maybe weeks and weeks after,
Starting point is 00:12:47 this is kind of the aftermath of what it was, like a little incision or something. That's fine, but it does look like... It's something. It looks like someone put out a cigarette on her stomach or something. Yeah, weird, but cool that we have a photo of this. I feel like there's a lot of cases where we wouldn't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:03 In the weeks that followed, Kelly began to experience migraines and strange stomach pains that got so bad, she eventually had to go to the doctor. She got a sonogram, CAT scans, but doctors could find nothing that was causing her symptoms. In the end, she was given painkillers and discharged, which feels like the universal doctor's way of saying, I don't know, f*** off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I feel like a doctor, if you go to a doctor complaining of any sort of pain, they'll never just send you away. The minimum they will do is, here's painkillers, leave me alone. Yeah, yeah. I think the phrase is, take two of these and call me in the morning. Exactly. Except under the NHS, they're like, take two of these, there's the door. I'm not giving you my phone number.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I don't have time for that. You're like, you could be going out with a nurse and she just forgot her packed lunch and you go to the hospital and you're like, hey, just want to drop this off, peanut butter, jelly sandwiches. My wife's actually one of the nurses here and the doctor's like, all right,
Starting point is 00:14:04 just take the morphine, two of those in the morning, you'll be fine. You're like, no, I'm just, I'm trying to just give this to my wife. What do you want, kid? Some Adderall and get out of my face, all right? No, I don't need any Adderall. Fine, liquid cocaine.
Starting point is 00:14:19 It keeps giving you better stuff. Yeah, I really don't want it. I'll be quiet. I'm just trying to drop off my wife's Capri Sun. Nurse! Full lobotomy! All right, I'm leaving. I'm leaving.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Despite the disinterest from the doctors, Kelly was determined to get to the bottom of what happened. She started having the same strange dream every night. Visions of tall black hooded figures with large hypnotic red eyes. She decided the only thing she could do to unlock her memories was to undergo hypnotherapy. This is a common step in the UFO experience. Yes, a controversial one I will say, but it is a popular one. People who have experienced missing time have experimented with hypnotherapy to try and unlock those memories, bring them back to the surface.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Yeah. And a lot of the times, apparently it works. Yeah, I think I've said it before. It's like, you know, the human memory. It's like a hard drive and like a hard drive when shit gets- Got way too much porn on it. Is what kids trying to say. Nope.
Starting point is 00:15:29 What I was trying to say was... Well, it depends which hard drive it is. Cause if it's like the work drive, it's going to be like, well, it's still going to be a little porn on there. It shouldn't be, it shouldn't be, it shouldn't be. Fireable for sure. So, well it's password protected, so it's fine. Not fine.
Starting point is 00:15:48 But what you're saying is like sometimes, sometimes there's just like so many... Kind of sexual harassment, actually, if anyone else uses that drive corner. So sometimes it's like it gets cluttered up with junk. Yeah. And then you forget the good stuff. Is that what you're saying? That would be one analogy. What I was going to say was, sorry, the porn really
Starting point is 00:16:05 threw me off. It's tasteful, by the way. I want to say it's like tasteful stuff. Because I've seen the password protected folders. It's like basically a real anime. It's like there's a lot of story stuff. There's proper character development and twists and things like that.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Because I saw one of the folders. It was like the dragons. Yeah, it's like. It was named like Nickelback. I was like, it was password protected and called Nickelback because I guess no one would click on that. Yeah. But like, it was also suspicious because why would you
Starting point is 00:16:33 lock a folder called Nickelback? Don't, brackets, don't open. Don't open. The analogy I was going to go with was, I've never had to do this, but apparently, if you accidentally delete files off your hard drive, they ain't actually gone. You can, in many cases, you can pay, conveniently,
Starting point is 00:16:54 a dickload of money to a data recovery specialist, and they'll somehow be able to go into the matrix itself of your hard drive and Reconstruct the scrambled bits of your old information Yeah, and it costs a ton of money and takes time and I don't know why for reasons I don't understand but Alternatively, if you don't want to do that You can just pay me apparently to knock a cup of coffee over your MacBook because when I took mine in to get fixed and I told him about the super secret team
Starting point is 00:17:27 of scientists that could recover any data, he was like, not in this case chief. I don't know what you did, but your shit is gone. And I was like, I had nine more seasons of Help My Stepsister Is A Dragon to watch, all right? Sorry, I mean, Nickelback. I mean, alright? Sorry, I mean Nickelback. I mean Nickelback! Sorry, I mean Nickelback.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Seasons of Nickelback, really? You're like, I'll pay anything to get that stuff back. Because it's illegal in most countries by now. So Kelly underwent hypnotherapy. And let me tell you, that shit worked. All of her memories. Yeah, this hypnotherapy. And let me tell ya, that shit worked. All of her memories. Yeah, this hypnotherapy session was the... We can forget the other analogies.
Starting point is 00:18:11 This was more like taking a drawing pin to a water balloon. It kinda flooded out, I would say. Yeah, she probably just entered the room, sat down. The guy was like, alright, I want you to close your eyes. She's like, oh god! I haven't to close your eyes. And she's like, oh God. I haven't done anything yet. Oh, sorry, sorry. I'm just gonna use the toilet
Starting point is 00:18:30 before we start our session. Oh, they're here. Would you like a glass of water? Nine foot, red eyes, green men. I think you're fine. I think you remember. I don't think we need to do this. I haven't started the tape recorder yet.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I'm the receptionist. She's speaking in an alien. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Gringo, gringo, gong, gong. It's like, all right, I think you remember everything fine. All of her memories came back and Kelly quickly realized she'd made a mistake. A book about the events written later
Starting point is 00:19:03 by Kelly herself said said it best, It's an encounter too frightening to remember, until it became too terrifying to forget. Nice, I think she worked with the copy editor on that one, you know, to... That's actually on the front page of the book. Sell a couple books for sure. Through a number of sessions, she was able to remember the events of that night. Buckle up listeners. I don't know if you're ready for this one. Okay. This is apparently what happened according to Kelly. That evening after spotting the
Starting point is 00:19:34 light Kelly and her husband pulled the car over to the side of the road and got out of the car to get a better look at the enormous glowing object. Here's where things get really crazy. They weren't the only ones. Further back up the road, another car had parked, and its occupants were standing at the edge of the field, also staring up at the object. Then, in front of this strange giant orb, Kelly said a tall thin figure was beamed down towards earth. It was like nothing she'd ever seen before. It didn't talk, but she said that she could hear its thoughts inside of her head. Classic. And it was only thinking three words. Let's kill them. Oh no! Kelly, run!
Starting point is 00:20:25 Leave your dudes. Use them as a human shield or something. Suddenly, more of these strange beings appeared unleashing an invisible energy force that knocked Kelly to the ground. Kelly screamed at her husband. They've got no souls! They're evil!
Starting point is 00:20:41 They're going to kill us! And that is where her recollection ends. Is that a quote? No, no, no, she said that! I think. She said, I remember saying... Do you know, do you know, sir? Because you were up in the middle of the night writing this, alright? So that feels like a Rory original.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I do know. Do you know how scary something has to be for you to just see it and immediately know it doesn't have a soul? Like, even me looking at a f***ing spider, one of those spiders that eats birds in the Amazon, I'd be like, I don't know, it might have a soul. We've kind of been trying to, it's kind of one of the key questions of philosophy is who has a soul and who doesn't. And we've kind of been wrestling that for a few thousand years. Kelly figured it out off-ramp.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Kelly was like, no. There's something so funny about being like, we don't know. Mushrooms, trees, the very wind itself. Hey, animism could be that even rocks contain souls and consciousness. We just don't know. And then this little guy comes down and be like, that's a monster. That thing is evil. It's going to kill us. It doesn't have a soul.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yeah, she f***ed up by thinking it. Because she should have realized when it came down and thought, I'm gonna kill you, they gave the gig away, sure, but she also gave the gig away by even thinking. Well, she said she screamed at her husband. Yeah, but you gotta kind of, so if they-
Starting point is 00:22:03 You gotta think of something to say it, don't you? Yeah, that's true. So, you know, it was like she, like in war terms, she typed that shit in and sent it to the Germans. You know what I'm saying? Right, yeah, she did it backwards. It's like, yo, what's up, we're gonna invade at 6 a.m. And she sent it to them, pretty much mentally.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Right, she should have thought happy things. Yeah. And then like while smiling, looking at the creature, lean into her husband and be like, don't have souls. By the way, you're still smiling. Like some honey to say it without Andrew weird. I can hear them. I hear their thoughts. Andrew. So I think like, now I'm thinking about it. I think, you know, that's really interesting. I think if we had ideally to fight these beasts, you would require like the cast of like Jersey Shore
Starting point is 00:22:48 or Real Housewives, people who talk without thinking. Right. You know? I mean, just a professional podcaster really would do. I think would do very well. After three main episodes on a Wednesday. There's something very funny about the idea of an alien coming down
Starting point is 00:23:03 and not knowing we can hear his thoughts Yeah, so they like come down in the ship and they're like we should just kill these guys and then the aliens like hey, what's up? How you guys doing? Hey, we come in peace. I'm gonna take the one on the left He's whispered as well It's all reverbed out. Yeah. Hey, you like this ship? Why don't you take a tour? Ready the... ready the probing room, guys. We like to extend the hand of peace. I'm gonna eat his fingers.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Okay, we're not coming over here. You guys look friendly. We're new to the area. I bet that guy's got a real nice butthole. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We're going to get a good look at that thing. God damn. Can't wait to rip into that butthole.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Hey, why'd you guys come over here? We got a bunch of cool free space shit we could give you. I'm going to go to town on that butthole. Oh, yeah. God damn. Do they know we can see through the jeans? I'm looking at that butthole right now. I'm going to prove the shit out of that thing.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Hey, I like your jeans. Yeah, I'm going to wear those jeans once I kill you. Look it's funny to laugh about this but this was a traumatic memory. It's been kicked back into her mind all right. Oh yeah. Alien shouldn't think that. Oh yeah god God damn f***ing hell. Through her dreams and hypnotic sessions, Kelly was able to draw a picture of what these figures look like, and she included it in her book titled, Encounter. Kit, would you like to see a picture of what these creatures look like from her unlocked memories?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Absolutely. Cool. Pretty classic alien gray head. I will say it's actually, having personally just finally got around to watching Jordan Peele's Nope movie, actually does resemble the fake aliens in Nope. I think at one point in the movie, I don't know if you remember,
Starting point is 00:25:22 but you're kind of like led to believe that there might be aliens running around this house at this point. They show you a couple of times and they've got these like little alien heads with giant eyes and the eyes aren't the same size or shape really. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:35 It's almost like an alien borderline tribal drawing looking alien. And that's what that looks quite a lot like actually. I wouldn't be surprised if they got some inspiration for that movie. Yes, you know, the description on the page are red eyes, And that's what that looks quite a lot like, actually. I wouldn't be surprised if they got some inspiration for that movie. Yes. You know, the description on the page are red eyes, dark shadowy face. Shouldn't have drawn it with a black pen then.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I think the book is printed in black and white. And no other distinguishable facial features. Very blank, very, very plain. Incredibly blank. That could be a mask or something. It's not her drawing skills. This is just actually what they look like. Just what it looked like. Yeah, it could be a mask or something. It's not her drawing skills, this is just actually what they look like. Just what it looked like.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah, it could be a helmet. I mean, that is like astronaut, like alien astronaut theory is like, humans don't look like what astronauts look like. Exactly, yeah. If an alien was describing a human, they'd be like, damn, they got this puffy white marshmallow skin
Starting point is 00:26:20 and a hard head. A single giant eye on top of their head. Yeah, yeah. It's Just glass. They're connected with an umbilical cord to their mother who's a box floating in the sky. Pretty cool. I think that's, I don't know a lot about how astronauts work, but I think they've got to be cabled up to shit, right?
Starting point is 00:26:36 While this was the end of Kelly's memories, this wasn't the end of the story. Knowing that she had clearly encountered some kind of otherworldly beings, she got in contact with Bill Chalker, who worked with the UFO Investigation Center in Sydney. Unfortunately, this would begin a series of events that would turn the Kelly story into what Bill would later call quote, an extraordinary lost opportunity. Mr. Chalker passed the story onto a group of paranormal investigators in Melbourne called Phenomena Research Australia or brackets the PRA, the leader of which was John Achele. Immediately John got to work. He interviewed Kelly multiple times and even went as far as to examine the scene
Starting point is 00:27:24 of the encounter himself in person. He believed Kelly multiple times, and even went as far as to examine the scene of the encounter himself in person. He believed Kelly's story about what happened that night, but knew if they were going to be able to build a proper case file, they needed more evidence. And he knew just where they could get it. The second car. That's right. Kelly's hypnotic sessions had revealed the existence of a second car. If they could find out who the other witnesses were, they could not only get a second pair
Starting point is 00:27:51 of witnesses for the story, but it would also confirm that Kelly's new memories were not just a figment of her imagination, they were real! Yeah, kind of, or it's just an utter coincidence that there was… No! What a surprise, another person using a large road? No, in the Australian outback at this time, very suspicious. I don't disagree, though, with the premise. It's a nice premise. It's great. It feels like a good, like, kind of moment in a sci-fi movie.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yeah. It's like, wait a minute. If we can find out who the people were inside of the memories, then it would prove the memories are real. Hey, I want to give full credit to John here. This is actually quite a smart idea. John and the PRA placed an ad in a local newspaper urging other witnesses to come forward
Starting point is 00:28:40 in an attempt to find the occupants of the second car. Dope. A classic like, hey, were you driving on the road a couple of weeks ago and maybe you saw something strange? We'd like to talk to you. Call us up at this number. Yeah, at 1-800-WE'RE-NOT-THE-FBI. Promise.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah, yeah. Believe it or not, Kit, in only a matter of days, the phone rang. Phone ringing. Uh, hi. I'm calling about the advert from the paper. This is going to sound crazy, but I think I know what you're talking about. We saw it too.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Jane, Glenda, and Bill were in the second car on the road. And not only was their recollection of that night the same as Kelly's, when asked to draw what they'd seen, their sketch of the craft lined up exactly with what Kelly had described. Kit, I actually have those pictures from the PRA report if you'd like to see them. We obviously know how Kelly's described the craft, the orange lights kind of in the dome shape. I don't think we have a picture that she's drawn, but you can see the drawings that Jane and Glenda both did. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Okay, so this is alleged, this is two images side by side. Jane drawing and Glenda drawing. And yeah, they're pretty, they're 99% similar. If this were an Uri Geller style CIA drawing experiment with topathy, you would say 100% accuracy. This is the same orb shape with exactly the same amount of lights and style of lights, lines on the lights. And it's, I mean, it's almost suspicious, I'll be honest, the level of similarity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:29 They use the same exact type of line drawing to do it. The same kind of line drawings, as you said, the windows on the craft, one, two, three, four, five, six, in Glenda's, one, two, three, four, five, six. Kelly describes seeing five to six orange lights in the sky, both on the way and coming back from her home. Interestingly enough, these people have drawn the beams that came down, which is when I guess
Starting point is 00:30:53 when they saw the creatures. But then also, I don't know if you noticed this, these people from car number two also drew these like tripod three leg kind of lines inside of the beams as if like it was coming down and like resting on a little triangle. Yeah, I'm not trying to be a dickhead. It is genuinely suspicious because the lines are like that.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It's literally the lines for the tripod, the lines coming down, showing the tractor beam, the lines over each light it is. I mean, if this is real and these are uncorroborated drawings, then this image is utterly photographically burned into both their minds. Normally when we get people to corroborate stories, we're happy enough if it's like vaguely similar, the recollection.
Starting point is 00:31:38 This is utterly identical. Very close. And the similarities only continue when the PRA asked Kelly and Jane and Glenda to all draw the figures that they saw that night. Here are the faces of the creatures. Okay the one on the far right is salad fingers 100%. Big head big eyes.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I've seen the one on the left already and then the other one looks like a dinosaur from the land before time. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. Or whatever. But it's all very similar. The big head, the big eyes. It's exactly. I mean, and very featureless.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Just utterly featureless. Yeah. Creepy stuff. Stories from the second car were not only identical to Kelly's, but when even further, the witnesses talked about being inside the craft, foggy memories of being strapped to tables and vague visions of blurry figures. And maybe the craziest part of all of this is that Jane and Glenda from the second car said the next day they discovered strange markings on their body just like Kelly did.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Third, fourth, fifth belly buttons? Check this out. Okay, so the aliens cable tied her feet. Yeah, one of them is rough. Yeah, she's real, this is some real Fifty Shades of Grey contusions to her ankle. It looks like a cable was wrapped around it. Where she was just hog-tied, yeah. Very very rough as you say. And then the other one is a kind of semi-mysterious pattern of injection points or little small
Starting point is 00:33:18 circular marks like you've been injected four times in a pattern. Super weird stuff. We are seeing one of the more common associated phenomena with alien abduction, which is that men and women alike might be abducted, but aliens supposedly are that much more interested in women. I don't know if we're going to get to what male partners in this experience, their experience was, but interesting that we're focusing on these two women for now,
Starting point is 00:33:46 because, I mean, this is noted in research. It's a common occurrence that alien abduction, alien examination focuses often on reproductive organs, reproductive systems, specifically with women. There's a lot of that in this story, a lot of theories. I think, yeah, it should tell you everything you need to know that weren't any marks on the guys. Yeah. There you go should tell you everything you need to know that weren't any marks on the guys. Yeah. There you go. That's everything you need to know. But you
Starting point is 00:34:09 can read about this story in greater detail. People have some pretty interesting and far out theories that we won't get onto today because frankly there just isn't enough time. But yeah, the aliens just x-ray scanned through their trousers. Now wangs, we've got those on our planet. Right, get the women up here. I've got nine of those. I don't need any more of those. The witnesses from Car 2 described a beam of light coming down, just like Kelly from The Craft,
Starting point is 00:34:36 along with, as I pointed out in their drawings, three legs that appeared to resemble almost a tripod being planted on the ground. When the PRA went back to investigate the site where the craft was spotted, they discovered three large black marks burned into the nearby field. Again, Kit, I have a picture. This is one of the markings of the three burned into the field. You can see it there with kind of a tape measure beside it showing you how big it is yep there you go say what you see yeah I mean that's it that's it another thing that we love is a UFO having some sort of physical
Starting point is 00:35:15 impact on the earth whether that's like radiation or indentation or anything like that yeah it's interesting you know when it's a burn, what, yeah, was it hot? I get like, is it radioactive? It's hard to know something we've talked a little bit about on bonus episodes and after parties recently in some of the kind of more recent UFO disclosures from world governments. We have seen documentation mentioning radioactivity coming off, suppose, UFOs, UAPs. It seems to be a real effect. Look, here's the thing. The universe is a big place.
Starting point is 00:35:51 It ain't all f***ing grass and soil out there, you know? It gets real weird real fast in terms of the elemental composition of the universe. And someone actually posted on the This Paranormal Life Secret Society group on Facebook, essentially a picture of the periodic table with all of the elements that we as humans understand. And basically all of the ones you can lick and all the ones you really shouldn't lick. You really shouldn't lick almost all any of them. Right, it's kind of water and that's it. It's kind of fine.
Starting point is 00:36:33 There's some that it's like you might be okay. Is milk on the periodic table? You can lick cats, do that. I know that. I'm trying to find this because I did think it was really funny. Yes, here we go. There's a great post by Ruth Bradford Harris in the Facebook group. She commented saying, a reminder for those of us who are tempted to lick a UFO, here it is, a periodic table just titled,
Starting point is 00:36:56 Can I Lick It? Got it. And we've got green, sure it's probably fine, yellow, maybe not a good idea, red, you really shouldn't, and purple, please reconsider. You've got a decent amount of fine to lick in there, but a lot of them you really should not lick. And if we're talking about a craft that just prior to it landing on the ground essentially
Starting point is 00:37:18 teleported to the other side of the road, don't lick it. That's to me what was in my research one of the most fascinating things was some of the leading thinkers in this field, people like Hal Putoff, engineers and people like that. They've made really fascinating hypothesis is this is things like the idea that these crafts could be red shifted or blue shifted, which is a bit of a complex idea, but it is a physical principle by which something might be traveling so fast through space. The electromagnetic radiation coming off of it
Starting point is 00:37:51 is either red shifted or blue shifted. That means it is either shifted higher or lower in terms of its frequency, meaning if it's shifted far enough up or down that electromagnetic spectrum, it could be shifted into dangerous x-rays or gamma rays. Right. Meaning that a craft that is stationary on Earth, you could touch it, lick it, do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:38:13 But if it has just been traveling or is actively traveling, it might be extremely lethally radioactive. And yeah, there are government documents listing all the symptoms soldiers have got from UAPs. I forgot about that. Yeah, we went into that. So yeah, there is something there. So I guess what I'm saying is even if a craft is otherwise made of normal materials, even the nature of space travel itself might cause it to be radioactive. Right. Because isn't that like a thing when like people get back from space when astronauts
Starting point is 00:38:46 came in? They were like, yeah, you have to like basically decompress and be a, what are they, you're put in the cleansing showers. Okay. Oh yeah, because well, space is so radioactive. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, this thing touching the grass probably would mess it up.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Well just when the PRA thought that they'd got everything that they possibly could, another call came in. There was a third car! That's right, a third car driven by a local lawyer who when interviewed also told a similar story of what happened that night. With that, the PRA had everything they needed. Researchers began prepping a 300 page report to reveal the truth of what happened that night. Unavoidably, the media got wind of this story, and Kelly was actually thrown into the spotlight,
Starting point is 00:39:37 appearing in magazines, newspapers, and even being interviewed on TV by the show Today Tonight. Off the back of her new publicity, Kelly became a huge name in the paranormal community, appearing at various UFO conferences and events, teasing to the public unheard details that were set to be included in the 300-page PRA report. But the report never came. And by 1998, Kelly had all but disappeared.
Starting point is 00:40:06 To this day, the PRA report is still nowhere to be seen. Bill Chalker, the man who Kelly originally contacted, said that he still believes Kelly's story, but regrets handing the case over to the PRA in 1993, saying, When it ultimately became pretty clear that she was going to be the only one that was going to go public on this, that's when she felt less confident about being the constant contact point on the case.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Despite this report never seeing the light of day, Kelly's case is one of the most talked about UFO abduction stories in the paranormal world, with many people to this day still believing her claims. As I said, she wrote a book about the encounter called Encounter that was published by Harper Collins and it sold out on its first run. I had a little search to see if I could get my hands on it, but copies now sell for hundreds online as it's become a bit of a collector's item. Out of print. But I actually did find one on eBay.
Starting point is 00:41:07 We would have to order it from Australia and get it shipped over here. I've approved it on my side, but obviously this Paranormal Life purchases need two keys turned at once. So I'm going to show Kit the cover of the book, and then you can decide whether or not I'm allowed to buy it. What do you think? Am'm allowed to buy it. What do you think? Am I allowed to purchase this?
Starting point is 00:41:28 I mean, it's pretty awesome looking. I mean, how much is one of those hit for? Okay, let me see. Because I was thinking we could buy it, sign it, and then give it away as a raffle prize on Patreon. Pretty dope. Which is something that we do. If you're on the raffle Patreon tier,
Starting point is 00:41:46 we give away something from the office every single month. This would be a very cool one. After I read the book, because I do actually want to read it too, it says 70 Australian dollars, which is about 35 pounds. It's not bad. I thought you said it was hundreds of pounds.
Starting point is 00:42:04 That's just over the price of an average book. Then shipping is 15 pounds. Yep. I think if you try and buy it, this is the cheapest one I could find. There's one on Amazon for I think 350 pounds. Nice. There's a few more. There better be ectoplasm on that book if it's cost on 350. I'm telling you. I'm going to need it to have been aboard the craft. I think that one is a, yeah, that one's a steal. It's going for pretty cheap. We should maybe snatch that one up. Yeah, well, before this episode comes out,
Starting point is 00:42:32 the stock about to go up. Here's another one for 80 quid. There's only two on eBay. Sorry listeners to the podcast, if you think you can now go on and grab this book before we get it. By the time this comes out, the book is ours. Maybe an Australian paranormal enthusiast
Starting point is 00:42:47 who's listening to this might already own a copy. It is so cool looking. And as I said, because the PRA report never came out, still to this day, this is the most detailed retelling of what happened in today's case. Yeah. And as I said, at the very start of this podcast, to give you an idea of how popular and widespread
Starting point is 00:43:09 Kelly's case became, it was name-dropped in 2016 in an episode of The X-Files where Fox Mulder himself references the case when talking about alien abductions. Why didn't the report come out? Let's dive into this, okay. Yeah, actually I'm more than happy to talk about this. Because what's the idea? Right. People think, basically everyone involved thinks the PRA fumbled the bag.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Okay. They spent too long preparing it. They didn't handle the witnesses very well. Okay. To the point where they were trying to draw them out of their lives and become a big part of this report, where then a lot of the witnesses, like Kelly herself, actually then just backed off. And they were like, I actually don't want anything to do with this anymore. So, and Kelly was the one who was the person leading this, even she left. Cause that's the only way I can envisage this falling apart is if the witnesses involved
Starting point is 00:44:07 withdraw their consent to publish the information. Yeah. If they, you know, presumably they gathered all the information, but they never finally agreed to let it be public. Yeah. But that only doesn't make sense in Kelly's case because Kelly published a book about it. Yeah, I think she was doing that assuming then that this big report was going to come
Starting point is 00:44:28 out and then it kind of never did. Bill Chalker, he feels really awful about the whole thing. He was even interviewed in the recent couple years about the story and how it was handled and as I said, he was like, look, I regret handling it to the PRA. I think he said the last time he talked to them the 300 page report had been whittled down to like 100 pages and the information that they were legally allowed to use was so weak now from where they started. It was all, it had just kind of like, it all took too long, it all fell apart, there was
Starting point is 00:45:02 a moment in a window where this could have been something. There's a great quote earlier that I mentioned from Bill himself, who calls the entire case an extraordinary lost opportunity. Right. Um, a case that is so close to being the Holy grail of alien abduction, um, because of all this evidence that we have, so many pictures, multiple witness testimonies, all this evidence. But it just at the finish line, fell apart, probably because of the organization
Starting point is 00:45:29 and the way it was handled. Also, there's other people who go deeper into the conspiracy world and they're like, someone knocked on the door of the agency who was putting together this report. It was probably ready to ship, and a couple of guys with black suits and hats paid a little visit.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Take a quick look at that hard drive. Rrrr! Rrrr! They're holding mugs of coffee. Can we take a little look at that MacBook Pro over there? Storch direct mugs. You know, straight up. Yeah! Throw it over there.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Um, so some people think the whole thing was kind of shut down quietly. That's the reason also witnesses decided to kind of withdraw from the story as well. Yeah. There was a bit of pressure put on them. Yeah, it is. I mean, that's the thing as someone just newly learning about it. It's not that it's a deal breaker, but it's disappointing, as you say, if we're supposed to have all this testimony and evidence. Yeah. I mean, I get it to an extent that, I mean, that's normally what plagues paranormal
Starting point is 00:46:29 investigations is people's willingness or unwillingness to tell their story. Lots of people wait until their deathbed to tell that story. So I guess I do get it as disappointing as that is. We have to contend with the fact that Kelly didn't remember anything until hypnosis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I would say, usually, anything remembered through hypnosis, I would be very skeptical of.
Starting point is 00:46:56 But... It's gotta be a big ass butt. But the fact that the hypnosis unlocked the existence of a second car of people, which when researched did exist, that does carry some weight with me. I was like, okay, that helps the story a lot. Yeah, but the timeline of events is utterly crucial. And you see this fumbling, you actually do see in modern, just conventional police crime cases. You'll hear all the time about cases in which I'm struggling to think of famous examples right now, but there's many cases where
Starting point is 00:47:31 a murder, they'll say, you know, that's all about the first 48 trying to solve the crime. And there's many, many cases throughout history where the police did not check a scene properly, did not categorize evidence properly, did not get the right trail of events to ensure capturing someone and convicting someone. And in this, it starts to worry you a little bit that if the report is ultimately fumbled, the witness testimony is ultimately fumbled, we start to lose a tiny bit of confidence in that chain of information. Because in order for this all to be true, we need it to be Kelly remembers the details, then they put out the ad, then those people having hopefully, if the investigators have done their job right, those people never hear about Kelly's testimony. They get to just in a totally isolated fashion, give their version of events that gets to
Starting point is 00:48:32 be cross corroborated with Kelly's. You know what I'm saying? We can't have contamination here. We can't have those people get to see Kelly's photos or get to see her drawings, get to hear her testimony. Because if that's the case, you could have any job saying they were there. Oh yeah, I saw Kelly's drawings.
Starting point is 00:48:49 That's crazy. That's what I saw too. Yeah, I wish I'd even seen what the ad was in the paper. Have you seen this man? Did you see this? And it's like a picture of a frisbee with lights on it. Or was it like, hey, did you see something on the road at this time?
Starting point is 00:49:05 That's a real question. That's a real question. Yeah. I mean, I could, I could search PRA ad, PRA ad newspaper. You know, this is the shit. This is why you need the report. This is, yeah, it's hard being a paranormal investigator. All right, guys, look, you know, some parts of this job
Starting point is 00:49:24 are genuine journalism and research You would not think it, but a jet, but there's a bit boring really There's a lot that we do to prepare these cases some are a little easier because they're just silly, but cases like this I'm like I'm investigating photocopies of news reports from like 40 years ago this shit goes deep We put a lot of love into this. But sometimes when a case is this old, it just doesn't pop up. PRA ad newspaper, Kelly Cahill. I'm seeing news reports about it, stories written, but unfortunately I think Kelly Cahill is also the name of a supermodel.
Starting point is 00:50:05 So when you search it, you get a lot of bikini pictures. That has nothing to do with my algorithm. That is just the way Google is set up. You're like, I'm looking it up and damn, Kelly was fine back in the day. Holy shit. I hope she can't hear my thoughts. Look, I'm only coming down hard on this portion of the investigation, only because we know we're in that rare air, that great region of paranormal investigation,
Starting point is 00:50:34 we are deliciously close to a double yes. On the upside of this, we do have, as you say, a number of witnesses that we have, the real names are of, we know they exist, who gave testimony, who gave drawings in whatever order that happened. And we do have some pretty cool scorch marks for where the landing was supposed to have taken place. We have a semi reputable, hopefully, organization who did some proper legwork into researching this.
Starting point is 00:51:01 It's not nothing. It's not nothing. No, no. Plenty of evidence, really. Yeah. And that's, I think, what this case has's not nothing. It's not nothing. No. Plenty of evidence, really. Yeah, and that's I think what this case has going for it. This is a case where there should be like nine different times where there's a reason why I would give this a no immediately. But every time one of those happens there's a picture to prove that it did actually take place. And I have to
Starting point is 00:51:21 give the case credit for that. It is incredibly well documented, so much so that even I am very surprised that it's like, oh, they claimed that they had marks on their body. And I'm like, all right, well, show me the marks. It's like, here they are. So, yeah, fair play. I didn't expect that.
Starting point is 00:51:36 And it's like, oh, they found burn marks on the grass. What do they look like? Here's a picture. All right, fair play. Masterful gambit. Yeah, I keep getting kind of like put in my place. So I agree. Look, I think we like to cover all kinds of stories
Starting point is 00:51:51 on this podcast, funny ones, spooky ones, ones that dive in and out of the history of the world and different cultures and stories like this, ones that are genuinely quite intriguing and I think are just start to finish a really good story. And I hope everyone really enjoyed it. It is of course still an episode of this paranormal life where we have to come down on a conclusion.
Starting point is 00:52:17 You know what, Kit? I'm happy to take the lead on this one. Having just finished researching it about an hour and a half ago. Drum roll, guys. Is this gonna be another Shag Harbor? I'm giving it a yes. I'm giving it a yes.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I think there's enough. I think this is interesting enough. There's enough here for a UFO encounter. We have substantially more evidence than we have for a lot of cases we've done in the past. I think Kelly was done a bit of a disservice. People say there is still a chance at some point the PRA report could come out. I will wait in anticipation for that. But I think there's enough here, there's enough witnesses, there's
Starting point is 00:52:56 enough photograph and evidence that I'm giving it a yes. And I think if you're interested in this story, you can do a research, you can see interviews with Kelly where she tells a story start to finish. It's pretty believable. Mmmmmmm don't believe it right here on the podcast The dry spell is over the Kelly Cahill abduction is a double yes the Kelly Cahill abduction I knew she was one of our own. I knew she was one of our own This is a terrible time right at the end of the podcast to to clarify no idea if that's how you pronounce her second name It's gotta be. Could be wrong. It's gotta be Cahill.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Um, well there you have it guys. What we need to do is start a revolution, storm the offices of the PRA. Right. And demand to see this report. All 100 pages. We are gonna, you know how we're gonna do that Rory? We're going to oink them out. Alright? This is... I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:54:03 An idea I got from someone else, from a different podcast, Shout Out to Innovation podcast. That is when we descend on their comment section, wherever they live on the internet, that is Instagram, there's a website, that is whatever it is. We descend on that comment section and just put the little piggy emoji.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Oink them out, brothers and sisters, we're gonna pressure them into coming clean with the truth. Right, I'm just worried that... 55 pig emojis in there. We're sniffing out the truth. Right, yes, of course, but then also say, after the emojis, we're from this paranormal life, we want you to release the files,
Starting point is 00:54:39 because I do appreciate kind of the sentiment of, oink, oink, I'm out, I'm not gonna do the snort. I just... Oink them out. I'm not gonna do the snort I'm just worried that they won't understand what the f*** is going on And we won't actually get to see the pages and a lot of our members might get banned Okay, so every like sixth person that you sure everyone can put in the information request, but everyone else No, everyone could be every it doesn't have to be like one in six. It could be like hey one in pig emoji Honestly, hey or like pig emoji pig emoji by the way, we're from this paranormal life with they just did a case on the Kelly Cahill abduction. We heard that you have a hundred page report
Starting point is 00:55:16 We're waiting for pig pig pig pig but then still go talk about needing the report because I just yeah The I'm gonna search to see if one these people still exist or if they have any social media presence the phenomena research Australia apparently was founded in 1949 Jesus it's headquartered in Melbourne I think it's still going after after the entire oinking campaign they'll be like could you just email? Just call the phone number on the website. I'm not seeing a lot of social media presence, but we will maybe have to hunt down their personals.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Get the families involved. Oink out their kids and wives. Yeah, dox them. That's right. Rory, sometimes when we do an exotic case somewhere far across Earth's beautiful hemispheres, we sometimes say, maybe we'll have to go, all expenses, trip, just to check it out for ourselves. Maybe the only way we're going to do this is by docking in Australia, in the land down
Starting point is 00:56:17 Nanda, just to knock the door ourselves. Oink, oink. Just get little boots on the ground. Yeah, at the very least to just hear what a real Australian sounds like to work on our accents. I think that would really help. Could you just say the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog? Frustratingly, we've been trying to get to Australia for... pretty much since we started this podcast.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Yeah, we've done been trying. Unfortunately, it's just incredibly hard to get there and do live shows. I don't know why, it just is. Apparently... I think I can tell you why. It's far away. Right. So the flight is expensive.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And then there's only like a small number of major cities compared to the United States, which means that kind of the economics of going and doing a couple of live shows are hard to make the money back. That's actually... Pretty realistic reason for why. It's not impossible. Yeah, our tour managers were like, yeah, just completely, with the amount of tickets that we projected
Starting point is 00:57:14 that you would sell, it's just completely not financially feasible for any of us to make this journey. Because whilst we do have a lot of beloved Australian listeners, it is darn that tier of like, you know, cause America is our biggest listenership. Yeah. Then UK boom. Boom.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Then I think Canada, boom. Nice. Then honestly, maybe Germany or somewhere weird. And then I think Australia. Yeah. I thought Australia was like number four. I thought it was pretty good. Oh, it's, it's up there. But it's far.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Because there's not that many more English-speaking countries than that. That's true. That is very true. It is up there. It is up there. I'd love to go. Maybe we just need to like, uh... We've got more listeners in Australia than we do in f***ing Ireland. Yeah. That's for sure. Listen, this paranormal life has done a lot of things before that aren't financially responsible.
Starting point is 00:58:01 So what's a little trip to Australia? One time Roy just set ten grand on fire on a night out. He just took it out of the ATM. He got so drunk he took it out of the ATM and burned it. I said I want to see if money burned green. And they're like no it burns like everything burns. And then I spent $140 on a book from Australia. I'm going to buy that book right now. Especially because it's a
Starting point is 00:58:25 double yes. This thing just got even more valuable. Hell yeah. I'm so fired up. My god. What a great case. I'm so glad this one came together. You know what's funny? Oh, actually, here's a great shout. When, as soon as I finished researching this, I was like, I bet someone emailed this in. I did find it by myself. There's no way they didn't email this. I bet somebody emailed in this as a suggestion, and I'll tell you who did. It was fan of the podcast, long time listener, and collaborator, Rachel Barrett from Australia.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Of course, the brilliant Rachel. Yes. Of course. The brilliant Rachel. Yes. Rachel was the one who kind of set up the collaboration with Cryptid Factor. Fun fact. And we've been trying to work with her in the past to get us over to Australia. So fingers crossed that is still a possibility in the future. Yeah Rory, a great opportunity to shout out Rachel who hopefully is listening and a shout out to her podcast. Well, she's a couple, but her latest one, Tuna Sandwich, which is so bloody good. It was nominated for best comedy at the Australian podcast awards, I believe. God damn, congratulations, Rachel. She came out of the gate swinging with that one and right into being an award-nominated show. So shout out Rachel
Starting point is 00:59:46 Thanks for suggesting that and everyone go listen to that. Yeah I mean, thank you everyone for listening to this week's episode of the podcast. I can't believe we got a double yes Really puts the pressure on old kit for next week's episode because at the start of this year We got a streak. What do we have three yeses in a row? I mean, I guess it puts the pressure on me, but it's not like it's been all Rory yeses, has it? Mmm, the Mantis Man was pretty good. And then you came with the Yeti, which was good.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Yep. Uh, I don't remember what the other one was. It was Atlantis, which was a, I'm sure, a fudge. Yeah, that was a safe bet. But it was a kit. So actually you could say, oh, is Rory one yes down for me this year? I don't think so. I think I've started the new streak.
Starting point is 01:00:29 So you've actually got a... I guess we're not even. So the community's boot is on your neck, so to speak. Jesus. Yeah. What? I just gave it a yes, man. Why can't we celebrate this yes for five minutes?
Starting point is 01:00:43 Their boot is on my neck already? I'm like, thin ice. You're on thin ice, buddy. You're like, I just said it was real. I'm on your side. It takes on a revolver dance. I can't believe it. Thank you so much for listening to this week's episode of the podcast. Keep your eyes peeled.
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Starting point is 01:02:12 including a shout out, a personal shout out at the end of every episode of this paranormal life. We're going to do that right now. So thank you to Hannah Hayes. You know, Hannah disappeared a little bit like Kelly. Not into a UFO, though. Into a haze. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Where did she go? Of kush smoke. Oh, OK. Plays in Bob Marley. Phil, maybe we count for copyright reasons. No. OK, so I thought this was a paranormal story, that she disappeared into a haze.
Starting point is 01:02:43 No. You're saying she could see when she closed her eyelids was pretty paranormal, but mostly Self-medicated herself into a stupor Well, great way to listen to TPL you could freak your noggin out. Yeah, this has been an incredible Assuming just hearing those Australian accents was pretty terrifying So thank you Hannah for your support Australian accents was pretty terrifying. So thank you Hannah for your support. Send us some weed in the post.
Starting point is 01:03:08 That'd be pretty cool. Yeah, that's illegal. Definitely. No, because we can just say we didn't ask for it. We didn't know where it came from. So that's fine. Yeah, if you just want to arise and the police turn up on your door,
Starting point is 01:03:17 if you just say, what? Yeah. Just act real surprised. Yeah, because we have like, I think we have like a PO box, office address where people could send stuff. So if they just send us Yeah, cuz we have like I think we have like a like an PO box office address Or people could send stuff so they just send us weed. I could be don't send us we I just need to Because we're being very flippant about this and people have our address on patreon Yeah, you could you could do it technically just wrap it up tons
Starting point is 01:03:37 Rub some deodorant on it so it gets through all the passes you're talking about like drug mule and then I'd be like don't teach People how to mail drugs and then it can arrive here and I'd be like, what the heck is this? What the frick? I guess, I don't know, I'll take this back to my place I guess, but like, I don't even know what this is. So if we get caught it's like, what is this? It's gonna be on you if it gets stopped at the border and then the person who sends it gets done. I don't know, I didn't ask for any, I said don't.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Don't do it. If you don't want to send something nice I think our address is still on patreon you can search for it. Yeah there you go. Send something real nice. Send something... we get a brick of cocaine I'm like too far way too far come on guys. There's just a needle with a stamp on it. What? It's from Hannah, it's not from me. Thank you, Hannah. Thank you also to Kelly Long. Kelly Long implies the existence of Kelly Short. And I don't see a Kelly Short here on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:04:35 So I'm gonna assume Kelly Long has kind of, they've split up, they've gone their separate ways. I think we got the best one. You know, if you have to pick someone to be a member of the Commune, Kelly Long can pick the fruit from right at the top of the coconut trees. Sometimes the ultimate frisbee gets lost
Starting point is 01:04:54 on a roof space in our ultimate frisbee tournaments here in the Commune, so Kelly Long could help with that. That'd be pretty great. Sometimes it's really sunny in the Commune, we need someone to kind of hold an umbrella over me and Kit while we kind of lay there. So Kelly Long, pretty good, good amount of shade. Send us weed Kelly Long. No, no, no, no. They call her Kelly Long because her blunts belong. She rolled a pop, pop, pop. I've clearly never smoked in my life.
Starting point is 01:05:25 We wanna get in contact with Kelly Bong. That's what I wanna, that's what I wanna, who I wanna meet. Thank you, Kelly. Thank you also to Greg Chapman's Magic Show. Gotta Google that for sure now. Greg Chapman's Magic Show? Whoa.
Starting point is 01:05:41 You know, Chapman is the name, this might actually be my cousin. Chapman is my mother's side of the family. Is that right? Yeah. Whoa. You know Chapman is the name, this might actually be my cousin. Chapman is my mother's side of the family. Is that right? Yeah. Damn. There you go. This is a show, Greg Chapman's Magic Show. It's got five stars on Google reviews. Wow. Check this out. I believe if this is the right- I know your ass loves a bit of magic. I did. Well, yes, I went to the Blackpool Magic Convention. bit of magic. I did, well yes I went to the Blackpool Magic Convention. Hey check this guy out, if this is the right Greg, a magician based on the Isle of White? He does close-up performances, stage shows, parties, weddings, corporate
Starting point is 01:06:15 functions. Hell yeah, maybe we need to bring this guy on tour with us so we can kind of like warm up the audience. Yeah okay, I like that. Right, all right, Greg our people will be in touch. So all one of us in half. Yeah, Kit. I like that. Right? All right. Greg, our people will be in touch. So all one of us in half. Yeah. Kit, maybe. For real. We'll be good. Death-defying shit.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And thank you, finally, to Adam Crank. Adam, you're gonna fit right in the commune. We've been getting called that for years. So a born and bred crank like Adam, he is gonna just fit right in, like a puzzle piece. Yeah, I don't know how many cranks Crank the soldier boy. That's the other one Crank that soldier boy. Sure, you know that soldier boy. Yeah Who's that soldier boy crank yeah, I feel like there's like a cranky Kong
Starting point is 01:07:03 Community yeah, he's like the old guy. Yeah crank. That's Oh ratchet. Yeah and oh clank It's not ratchet and crank. Yeah. Wait, is it ratchet? No clank clank it is there's I've been talking there's there's legendary pro skateboarder Rich McCrank I bet I am truly out of options Christmas with the Cranks, isn't that one of them as well? There's like a family who hate Christmas. Sure. Adam, do you hate Christmas? Let us know.
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Starting point is 01:07:57 Um, give us some five stars or some smiley faces. You know what, if you want, if you give us five stars, you can oink us out. Yeah. I don't care. You can do pig emoji, pig emojis, pig emoji, oink us out. But if you give us five stars, you can oink us out. I don't care. You can do pig emoji, pig emojis, oink us out. But if you give us the stars, that's great. I think on Spotify, you can even now like comment
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Starting point is 01:08:25 We will be back next week with the beginning of a streak. And I ain't talking bacon! My oinky brother. Let's go. Thank you for listening. We will see you next week. Bye bye. I can't wait to have a drink tonight.
Starting point is 01:08:44 It's been ages since I've seen Sarah. I can't...I can't wait to have a drink tonight. It's been ages since I've seen Sarah. I can't, I can't. It's always so hard to start. I can't, can't. I think they're, um, can't, can't, can't wait. I can't. I don't think it't, yeah, yeah, can't. Of no idea. Now let me do that again. Of no idea. Of no, of no. It's been a while, we usually warm up with some accents
Starting point is 01:09:18 and some phrases to kind of get it flowing, but yeah, we didn't do that today. I have no idea. Of no idea. Think bluey, think bluey. Bluey and bendy and bendy. I've no idea. I can't do it. I've no idea. That was good. I have no idea. I have no idea.

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