This Paranormal Life - #413 The Story of ‘THE BLOODY PIT’ - America’s Hoosac Tunnel

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Human beings are beautiful, complex creatures. But despite our differences we can all agree on one thing - trains are awesome. They’re fast, efficient and their roofs are home to some of the best fight scenes in action movies. That’s why back in the 1960’s, America had gone train-mad, building tunnels and tracks all across the country… but one of those tunnels may have gone a little too deep, uncovering a dark paranormal mystery that only got stranger the deeper they went. This is the story of the HOOSAC tunnel.Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.comEdited by Philip Shacklady Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Does a nightmare imply the existence of a daymare? Why are the McDonald's Happy Meals only meant for children? Is it because every meal as an adult is sad? All of these questions you can find the answer to on THIS PARANORMAL LIFE! Hello everyone and welcome back to This Paranormal Life, the comedy paranormal podcast where every week we investigate a brand new paranormal tale and come to the conclusion at the end as to whether or not that thing is paranormal.

My name is Roy Powers, this guy across from me is Kit Grier-Malvena, and today we are bringing you a brand new paranormal story to shiver your timbers. Kit, are you excited to be back in the studio? Hell, yes, broda. Let me just say as a quick PSA, there's nothing stopping you from ordering that Happy Meal as an adult. Yes, because recently a lot of McDonald's now have touch screens, touch screens. You've been using the touch screen so much, I forgot how to speak. Touch screens. It's a game changer. You don't have to talk like a toddler to get the Happy Meal. We'd scooch up on our knees with our shoes on our knees.

Hello, mister. I just ordered the Happy Meal. Yeah, you're the one who ordered the Happy Meal and asked for and then tapped into the extras and basically added a full Big Mac on the side. Oh, yeah, because that was me. You guys serve Happy Meals? I think I'm Willie's Tony DeWike McDonald's. They're like, we know you're a grown man. Oh yeah, because that was me. You guys serve happy meals? I think I'm Willie's Tony DeWike McDonald's.

They're like, we know you're a grown man. You can just order a meal for a child. You can just order the Pokemon cards as an add-on to your adult meal. Yeah, you don't need to buy the whole thing. Sorry, oh really? Willie? I mean, really?

That'd be great. Great, sorry. I think I'm having a stroke. The touchscreens are a game changer because they are a shame changer. AKA there is no shame anymore. I can order whatever I want with no one having to receive my order. When I go to do my regular order at McDonald's, the people in the kitchen don't know what I'm doing,

so they assume a busload of school children have entered the McDonald's and have placed one large order by the headmaster. They assume it's a make-a-wish for some reason. So they're like, we have an order here for 120 chicken nuggets, 19 happy meals, and one fish fillet. And I'm like, yeah, that's actually me. I'll pick that up. I got loads of people. I'm actually doing an order for like a bunch of my friends who are at like a house nearby. So I'm gonna pick them up here and I'm gonna go back to their house

and probably like, I'm not even that hungry. They're like, sir, your eyes are so red. Do you need to go to hospital? You've got the munchies. I forget the point that I was making. Oh yes, every meal as an adult is sad. Not because the food is bad, but because of the general weight of existing in this world.

Okay, right. Just to be if I wasn't clear. Not to be too heavy. Yeah, woo! At the top of an episode. Hey, bottom. Because the toy takes away the pain. Yeah, it kind of-

For a little second. Reminds you of a simpler time when you could find joy in even eating food. I actually- Rather than just having it as fuel to keep you working for another day. Right. You know? Cause yeah, we kind of just like, live to work at this point, rather than work to live. That would be nice. It's kind of crazy. One of ours on holiday recently in a pinch got my daughter, my three year old, a happy meal. And

she got the Pokemon cards toy which of course I was pretty jazzed about. Yeah you're like oh actually maybe daddy will hold on to those. She's like opening them up with her ketchup-y fingers. You're like oh that was a Charizard! No maybe daddy will, because we can still wipe it down. Hey maybe, what about daddy holds on to the Charizard? You brought like little lamination packs. My wife is mad at me and I'm like, sweetie, we've gone from a mint down to an A minus, okay? This is at most gonna be a PSA grade six, all right?

And then if that's if I can get the ketchup off now. And the PSA, they are jammed up. They are jammed up for the next six to nine months. So the condition we keep it in right now is absolutely crucial. And I did, we're joking, but I was like, let Papa take a look at those real quick. She's like, oh, shiny.

I'm like, yeah, let daddy take a look at the shiny one. Oh, look, this one's a bug. Oh, yeah, you take a look at the bug one. I let daddy look at the shiny one. I'm on eBay. I literally pulled up eBay. I was like, how much is this mother-fucking? There was a shiny something.

I don't know what the fucking Pokemon are these days. is this mother f***? There was a shiny something, I don't know what the f*** Pokemon are these days, I have no idea, but it was a shiny something. But hey, we're not here to talk about McDonald's, we have an incredible paranormal story in store for you listeners today, so as always, kick back, relax, and let Mr. Rory, the storyteller, take you on an incredible journey all the way through American history.

Oh, right. Actually, let me rewind that. That didn't sound that sexy. I think I could probably jazz it up. That didn't sound that cool. I mean, I'm not trying to do a citizenship test. Um, yeah, I can, let me sex it up a little bit. We're going to be talking about one of the scariest.

Okay. Most terrifying, deadly moments in American Transit Engineering. Alright, well you had us there for the start, but actually. Yeah, actually lost it. And actually, it sounds more boring. So, is this about trains? Ghost trains! Add some reverb and thunder and shit to that.

What were you thinking? You were gonna teach us all about American history? Well, it's the history of a specific train line. I'm not doing it justice This is after one the Alamo. This is a great case. You're gonna love it. Let's dive right in But first before we do a little reminder that you can get every episode of this podcast ad free over on patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life It's the best way to support the show So head on over there if you want to get a bunch of cool rewards and even get a shout out at the end of the episode.

All right, we need to dive in today's story. The year is 1874 and a lone huntsman named Frank Weber was exploring the cold wilderness of Massachusetts. As he slowly trekked along the banks of the Deerfield River, he heard a noise in the distance and readied his rifle. But despite being in a place literally called Deerfield, this didn't sound like a deer in the field. It sounded like a human. Frank lowered his gun and followed the noises. He pushed his way through the thick brush until eventually he came face to face with what he was looking for. A long crack in the side of the Husak mountain range. A fissure just large enough to fit a human body.

And as he stepped closer, he heard the noise once again. Worried that someone had become lost or even stuck in the cave, Frank decided to light his lantern and enter. He shuffled through the tight crevice, into the darkness, raising his lantern to illuminate the tunnel. It was huge, stretching far into the distance, and it wasn't long before he discovered he wasn't alone. Frank claimed that in the low light, he could see dozens of shadowy men, all hammering at

the cave's walls with pickaxes. But despite their tools clashing against the rocks, there was no noise at all. Hello? Are you fellas working in here? There was no response. Before Frank could ask another question, he was struck over the head, losing consciousness immediately. Three days later, he was found by a rescue team.

Frank had accidentally entered the Hussack Tunnel, also known as the Bloody Pit. Whoa. So we couldn't hear their tools making contact with anything. He heard the next sound though. Boom! Crack! Over his skull, a spade against the back of his head.

Yeah. This is going to be our subject of investigation today, Kit. The Hussack Tunnel and its strange and dark history and origins. The funny thing, one of the many funny things about reading this era of history is, you know, like in the modern day, you know, countries like America and some others have, you know, problems with gun control, you know, and a bleeding heart liberal like me supports gun control. But as soon as you start telling a story like this, where this guy's wandering through the

woods, it's 150 years ago, and he hears a sound, I'm like, I sure hope he has a gun. I'm like, yeah, actually, Second Amendment is pretty cool when it's midnight and you're in a field. Don't unclip this out, all right? I don't want anyone putting the American national anthem behind me saying this, but between you and me, brother,

I'm gonna need a rifle if it's what's happening in this story. I mean, if it makes you feel any better, I think in the longer more detailed version of this story, when he's inside the tunnel, someone or something steals his gun off him and hits him over the head with it. So if anything, he probably needed a little more gun control. He had lost control of his gun. That mother f***er did not have control of his rifle. We are going to find out why this tunnel, the Hussack Tunnel,

has the reputation that it has today. But to do so, we need to dive back in time, all the way to the 1870s. I thought we were already in the 1870s. We were in 1874. All right. 1874. So we're going to stay in the 1870s. We're going to go back to the early 1870s. A bustling time in America's history,

the second industrial revolution, and the recent completion of the transcontinental railroad meant that the country's passion for train travel was at an all-time high. Oh, because people were buzzing on trains, engineers worked around the clock building railway lines across the country, working to create an America connected by the most powerful and efficient mode of transport. Trains.

But flash forward to today. We know that America really doesn't have any long-distance passenger trains. Is it because the automobile industry illegally lobbied the government to subsidize roads and air travel, essentially taking bribes by private companies to destroy critical infrastructure in their own country? Or did something paranormal happen way back in 1872? Let's find out. I'm not going to query that until the end of the episode. Our story begins in New England, 1851, back again 20 years.

And engineers were working on a railway to connect the city of Boston to the upstate districts of New York. They just had one problem. Hills. Which is really the hardest part about building a railway track. In the industry they call it the Achilles Hill. Nice.

Thank you. Just one little joke. It's gonna be plenty more train puns as we lay down the tracks in front of us. In order to complete this track, the railway would have to find a way through the Husak mountain range, an enormous stretch of mountainous terrain in western Massachusetts. Luckily, the solution was pretty simple. Smash straight through it. And so, plans for the Husak tunnel were created. Unfortunately though, tunnel construction at this time was brutal. There was a lack of ventilation, tunnels would randomly collapse,

and on top of that, it was 1851, so your paycheck was probably a loaf of bread and polio. I thought it was 1870. I said we went back in time 20 more years! 1851! Sorry. And yes, then I said we went back to 1870s and then I said we went back to forward to 1874. This is our third date in, you know.

1851. Are you happy? Yep. But workers were not deterred by these conditions. They knew that blasting their way through Husak Mountain was their only option. So armed with pickaxes and what I assume were Looney Tunes style sticks of dynamite, workers began constructing the tunnel. Little did they know, they were digging themselves into more than just a literal hole and by the time this tunnel was finished, almost 200 of them would already be dead.

Yeah probably from the dynamite, so are you trying to say it's paranormal? A lot of it is dynamite related, yes, most of the casualties. I think you'll find, Kit, there might be some ghosts involved. You might say that we're about to go from a boom to boom. I like that. I like that a lot. Well, can you tighten that up in the edit?

Cause you could, I think it, on the... I'm not saying there's definitely gonna be some ghosts, but they're dynamite. The dynamite beat. So, Phil, wish everyone was better. You could like... Hey, there's not a competition. I think there's room for both.

Well, it's not a competition, I guess. So just cut kids then. We'll just keep mouthing. Because I think like I'm the narrator, so it'd be weird if he starts leading the story. No, I think actually people want to hear less of you and more of me. Because you've been talking a lot. I mean, no one even knows what year it is. Well, I'm trying to keep this story on the tracks.

So now we'll train pun for you. And I got plenty more. And if you don't like them, you can choose a different podcast to be a part of. The pun is really aggressive for you. It's like masking very aggressive sentiments? You can go f*** yourself. I want that. You can, woo-hoo, kill yourself.

The first incident occurred on the afternoon of March 20th. Workers, Ned Brinkman and Billy Nash, were setting up dynamite down in the tunnel, while their colleague Ringo Kelly waited for them to emerge and give them a go ahead to detonate. Yeah, those are the names of three men who will be dead in two minutes. You could just picture those in the local newspaper. Yeah. Ringo Nash, what were they for? Ringo Kelly, Ned Brinkman.

Oh, God. Yeah, they're not gonna make it past 27. Ringo Nash, what were they for? Ringo, Kelly, Ned Brinkman. Oh gods, yeah, they're not gonna make it past 27. Yeah, Deadman Billy Nash sounds like an old-timey pirate. Guys, I'm getting bored out here. You almost done in there? Absolutely not Ringo, we're still placing dynamite. Yeah, we'll let you know when we're ready for detonation all we go hurt were those last words ready for detonation he's down on the t-bar igniting the dynamite a thunderous boom ran through the tunnel and rocks and debris collapsed from the ceiling

Damn that was crazy. Hey Ned Billy you guys alright? guys shoes Single boot when the dust had cleared Ringo discovered that Ned and Billy hadn't escaped in time. Oh shit. The cruel irony of this is this incident was caused by bad hearing, which is only furthered by each explosion each man is a part of.

Right. There should be a limit to how many explosions you can be a part of. Don't make the guy who's in charge of hearing ready for detonation. Don't have him put some earplugs in, put some earmuffs on. Yeah, because by the time you get to explosion 10, you're going to say, should I go now? Someone's going to say no, and you're going to hear go. And you push down on that T-bar, boom. So I think limit every person to either five explosions

at the workplace or three EDM festivals. And then you're no longer allowed to be the guy who detonates the bombs. This is why bedroom safe words exist is because phrases like ready for detonation are sexy and fun. Yeah, I've said that in the bedroom. That's why you need to make it something like enchiladas.

Just like a word that just wouldn't come up ordinarily. Right. Fair enough. Maybe the fellas kind of carving out this tunnel, placing dynamite, maybe one of them would be like, damn, I'm really hungry. Is it lunch? I could really go for some enchilada

Right, but something else. Yes You know swordfish. Yeah, that's not coming out in the bedroom. I guess it is if whatever you're into But yeah, something like ready for detonation doesn't work. You know, it's the sometimes you don't have a choice when detonation is gonna happen Sometimes they could say I'm not ready. You're like, well, it's gonna detonate. Whoever's in the way is gonna catch us stray, okay? I'm just letting you know in advance. It's the 1850s. Just make the safe word something they would never normally say. Like, healthcare. Here's my pronouns. Just anything like that.

Right, Twitter. Not a word back there that would freak them out. Snapchat. Snapchat, okay, that definitely doesn't, yeah, unless I say the words TikTok live, you don't push down on the detonator. In the aftermath of the incident, Ringo Kelly was devastated. He blamed himself for the death of his... I'm sorry, it was funny. He should. He should. Sorry, you say that as if there's anyone else to blame.

You know what the crazy thing is? He felt slightly responsible for what happened. He actually thought the whole thing was kind of his fault in some f***ed up way. Like he had something to do with it. He blamed himself for the death of his two colleagues and became withdrawn from the rest of the crew. His co-workers described him as skittish, nervous, and would find him wandering around the tunnels alone, talking to himself in the darkness.

Skittish? Take the T-bar away. He's lost his trigger finger. Pwitchy! Unpredictable! Listen, Ringo, I know you blame yourself for their deaths, but you gotta move on, man. We got work to do.

They're not dead, Carl. What are you talking about? They're following me down here. I can see them in the shadows. I hear their voices calling me. It's them. It's Ned and Billy. Several days later, Ringo Kelly disappeared.

They searched the site up and down, but there was no sign of him. Eventually, his body was found two miles deep in the tunnel, right at the same spot that Ned and Billy had been killed. I'm sure you were gonna say, they found his body two miles away. The dynamite blew it so high into the atmosphere. On the contrary, kid, Ringo Kelly had been strangled to death in the tunnels. Was Ringo Kelly strangled by his frustrated coworkers

who also agreed that it was entirely his fault that those people died and they killed him along with the others inside of that cave? Or did the ghosts of Ned and Billy lure him into the shadows and reach through the realms of the dead into the world of the living and throttle him to death for revenge.

Interesting. Just two theories. We don't have to decide now. We got more to come. The workers believed that Ringo had been driven insane with the guilt of killing his two friends. That's why he was seeing figures and hearing voices. But before long, others on site began to report the same experiences. Strange voices in the dark, shadowy figures spotted deep in the tunnels. It was as if they were tunneling straight into hell. On a number of occasions, workers would hear horrific cries of pain, echoing from down

in the darkness. They'd rush down the tunnel with lanterns, ready to help whoever was hurt, only to find there was nobody down there after all. Before long, these stories spread across all the workers, leading to a mass walkout, as they believed that the ghosts of Ned and Billy, Ringo and others were now haunting the tunnel. Very interesting. This is a real thing. This actually happened during the construction of this tunnel. I know it feels like

1860s was a long time ago, but Don't throw in another date! We've been working on it for- That's what happens when you move through time! The date changes! Nah, nah, nah, because we've gone backwards three times and then forwards once or twice Do you know how long it took them to make this tunnel? 25 years, okay, it took I didn't construct this tunnel. I thought that was a rhetorical question Oh, okay. It took a really long time

We're gonna be moving through the span of 25 years because that's how you know how like yeah It Billy hadn't died full stop, he would have died of old age. Well, you know how it's like a cliche that construction jobs always take three times as long as you want? Imagine if you get ghosts involved. Alright? That's gonna really increase the time. Usually people just say the builders are lazy and work doesn't get done on time and they draw it out so they can just charge you more money. These guys are having to bring priests onto site to fight off the ghosts while they do

their work. Yeah, that's going to draw out the project a little bit. I don't know if you know that priests don't make a lot of money, so they got to make it somehow. Oh yeah. I don't know if you remember that story. I loved that story that I think it was like a Russian priest or something got like kicked out of the clergy or kicked out of the church because he was too swagged out.

He was like, I don't know where he was getting the money from, but he was like turning up to like services wearing like a Gucci belt, like Balenci shoes, like this crazy drip. Yeah, you can't do that. Yeah. You can have like old timey swag, like a couple of chains or like a cross or something. Well, that's the funny thing, right? Is that like the church that either kind of decked out in gold, have like a gold staff.

Yeah. But you can't have an Hermes scarf. You can't have a Gucci belt. I think even if my priest had an Apple watch, I'd be like, this feels wrong. I don't know. It feels weird. I kind of respect it.

Oh, I respect the Swagoo. Like if my, if my priest was in, even in Crocs, I'd be like, I know you're old and you want to be comfortable cause you're standing a long time, but like, then Jesus wear like sandals and shit, at least have some Nike slides or something. He had like, like metal grills in his mouth like Gucci Mane. He could barely kind of speak. He's like, I'm Mark Shetcher the disciples. What? I said, I'm Mark Shetcher the disciples.

My plan is to get raptured and act like I don't know nobody. Riff raff as a priest. Luckily, the project managers for the Husak tunnel did have a solution. No one would quit working on the tunnels if they could prove the tunnels weren't haunted. It's just that simple. So in 1868, they hired Paul Travers, a highly respected mechanical engineer, to come investigate the site and hopefully dispel all the silly rumours about the Husak tunnel being haunted. So the project managers gathered the workers to assure them that everything was fine.

Evening everyone! As we speak, mechanical engineer Paul Travers is down in the tunnel, investigating the source of these so-called ghost noises. Now he assured us before heading in that it's most likely the wind blowing through the tunnel network, a common and completely normal phenomenon that is nothing to worry about. Oh look, here it comes now from the tunnel. Well, Paul, what's the verdict, old friend?" Paul Travers was ice white. Paul Travers said,

I heard the screams of the dead. Thousands of them. I haven't experienced such horror since I fought in the military. That's a funny joke, Paul. Paul's a funny guy. Guys, no, don't leave. I think if I saw Paul coming out ice white, I'd be like, actually, you know what that? Doesn't matter what Paul says. I think we all gotta find out for ourselves what we think about the tunnel.

So, I think it's fine. What do you guys think? Yeah. Unfortunately, the worst incident at the Husag tunnel was yet to come. A month after Paul Travers' visit, a buildup of NAFTA gas resulted in a huge explosion. Thirteen contractors working down in the tunnel were caught in the blast. Most died immediately, but the others weren't so lucky. With the exit to the surface now sealed, the workers who survived the blast were forced to go deeper into the darkness.

By the time help had reached them, no one was left alive. Some of the bodies were never recovered. Others slipped through the cracks of the mountain, turning up in nearby towns or fields for years to come. As you can imagine, in the following months morale was low. Oh, well, let's just pause, time out. Yeah, of course. Quickly.

Do you want to know what year it is? I would love to. 1868. 1868, because a month after Paul Travers visited, the big boom happened. But yes, you had another question, sir. So you admitted there was a gas leak in the cave this entire time? No, I believe the NAFTA gas is not... I'm sorry, and also you're telling me NAFTA gas is different to LAFTA gas?

I believe this was... yes, seeing a lot of stuff that this is a natural gas, but I believe this was a man-made incident. This was a man-made incident. Just because I was hoping to maybe bring this up, but you know, you start digging into the earth, maybe uncover some kind of one of the many millions or trillions of pockets of natural gas here on earth Which if inhaled can lead to kind of loopy circumstances. I for one would know given that I experienced a gas leak on my recent holiday Oh, that's true. Yeah, that actually did happen Okay, researching it now and I lost several brain cells They say a candle in the hoist that they were using ignited NAFTA fumes that had leaked

from a gasometer lamp. Gasometer lamp? Sure. I don't know what that is. But it wasn't gas that had kind of leaked out of the mountain. I think it was probably leaking from something that they had brought with them.

Oh good. They were bringing gas in and inhaling it. That's great. It was their own gas, yeah. I'll have you know. Getting high on their own supply. That's fine, I just, I mean... Yeah, it wasn't gas leaks. Let's just...

Well, it was gas leaks, but it wasn't leaking from... There was lots of gas. All right. And it just so happened to be the one day there was a naked flame, everything exploded. So I just wanted to bring this up earlier and I've now said it and we'll kind of move on that I was going to bring up the possibility of gas. Don't love this. Don't love this at all. Playing with people's. All right. Yeah, sure. Fine. That's that is. Yeah, I can say I experienced a gas leak a couple of months ago. I got very dizzy. I felt very

sick. Did you see anything? I didn't hear the screams of the innocent, personally. Right, or any shadowy figures? I wasn't strangled either. You weren't hit over the head with your own gun? Touch wood, so yeah, anything's possible. It's something to say that even if it was gas,

every single person is having the exact same experience, and a lot of those symptoms are not gas related. Yes, yes they are mother f***. Yeah. Hearing the screams, thousand screams of the dead, voices calling them into the darkness. That ain't gas. Let me tell you. As I said, morale at this time was low.

But you know what was up? Ghost sightings. If the death of two workers was enough to kick off some hauntings, imagine how bad things got after the explosion incident. On one occasion, a contracted worker was down in the tunnel when he spotted a line of men sullenly marching deeper into the darkness, with their heads hanging low, pickaxes slung over their shoulders. The worker cried out, Hey, where are you guys going? We're closing for the day. But there was no response. He watched as the line of men walked down into the tunnel towards a deep

pit of muddy water, disappearing as they reached the water's edge. When the worker ran over to see where they'd gone, he spotted a black object floating in the middle of the darkness. He raised his lantern to try and illuminate the object, and suddenly a horrific scream rang out in the tunnel! It was so loud the worker had to cover his ears, and when it finally stopped, he realized he was looking at the missing remains of one of the workers who tragically died just months prior in the explosion.

But by the time he could make it over to the water's edge, the body was gone, as if it was never there to begin with. Okay, these guys have lost their minds. They have no one has any grasp of what's happening. It's definitely the gas. This is basically Frodo wandering through the swamp. It's like, look, they need to just start briefing people like Frodo. It's like, look, all right, buddy, what's your name? Jacob? Great.

Welcome to the team. Go in there and dig a hole and don't look left and don't look right and don't look down. Don't look up. Ideally, keep your eyes closed and your ears closed. Yeah, cause you will hear screams and you will see your dead loved ones calling you deeper into the darkness of the tunnel. It's a weird feature of the tunnel, but look, this'll be all worth it because Boston's on the other side.

I don't know what to tell you. The pay's fine, see you at lunch. This is, cause that is a Lord of the Rings thing, isn't it? Where they go through the swamp, right? Where they try and lure you into the water by showing you nice things or something like that. Yeah. Yeah.

I think that's it. It's a very classic siren song. I had a very similar experience once where I had to wake up very early one morning to do a photo shoot for some work I was doing with my friends. And we were all incredibly hungover. I think the photo shoot was at like 9 a.m. We all looked like absolute dog shit. And we were taking photos down by this canal in East London. And in between shots I was looking down into the canal and there was just at the bottom of the waterbed, just a perfectly sealed bottle of Corona resting in the dirt.

You don't know it's perfectly sealed. And I turned to my friend and I was like, I can't tell if that's really down there or this is one of those rivers that shows you your truest heart desires to try and lure you to the bottom. You're like, Whoa, check out that Corona. He's like, that's a Nintendo switch. shows you your truest heart desires to try and lure you to the bottom. You're like, whoa, check out that corona. He's like, that's a Nintendo switch. What are you talking about? Okay. Yeah. It's the latter. It's safe to say that things were going badly at this point. Not only were they massively behind

schedule, but workers at the site were fighting off ghosts and spirits on a daily basis on the 25th of June, 1874, 23 years after construction began. And yet the same date is where we started our story. Similar, similar date. I thought we started in 1874. Okay, that was a test. We did. We passed it, so well done. The same date that we started our story, 23 years after construction began, the drilling operations manager James R.

McKinstry arrived at the site. I assume at this point he was just f***ing furious about all these paranormal claims holding up progress because he brought with him university lecturer Dr. Clifford J. Owens to try and dispel any and all rumors about the tunnel being haunted. So McKinstry unlocked the gate and the two men headed inside. Now what's great about this part of the story is that Dr. Clifford Owens actually wrote about his experience in the tunnel, which I can now just read verbatim on the podcast. Got it.

Because he's a old-timey smart university lecturer, I'm of course just going to give him a British accent. He wrote, finally halted to a rest. Except for the dim smoky light cast by our lamps, the place was cold and dark as a tomb. James and I stood there, talking for a minute or two. We were just about to turn back, when suddenly I heard a strange mournful sound. It was just as if someone or something was suffering in great pain.

The next thing I saw was a dim light coming from the tunnel from a westernly direction. At first thing I saw was a dim light coming from the tunnel from a westernly direction. At first I believed it was probably a workman with a lantern, yet as the light grew closer, it took on a strange blue color and appeared to change shape almost into the form of a human being without a head. The light seemed to be floating along about a foot or two above the tunnel floor. In the next instant, it felt as if the temperature had suddenly dropped and a cold icy chill ran up and down my spine.

The headless form came so close I could have reached out and touched it, but I was too terrified to move. For what seemed like an eternity, McKinstry and I just stood there, gaping at the headless thing. The blue light remained motionless for a few seconds, as if it were actually looking us over, then floated off towards the east end of the shaft and vanished into thin air. He finished with, I am above all a realist, nor am I prone to repeating gossip and wild tales that defy a reasonable explanation However in all truth, I cannot deny what James McKinstry and I witnessed with our own eyes

Pretty crazy stuff kid we now have multiple people who had no part in the actual construction of this tunnel come down and investigate the site for themselves and they're reciting very similar claims to the people who have been in this tunnel and seen these things. Yeah, it does kind of seem as if something is going on. I mean, I think the hardcore skeptics would maybe argue here that we have a kind of chain of events and tales. Maybe the tunnel's reputation precedes it in a sense that people are going in somewhat primed, I suppose would be the word that would be primed with the information. But I think that would be the most hardcore

skeptic position. I don't think it's too crazy here to suggest that something is going on, whether that be of a naturalistic cause or whether it's paranormal or not. You think these people, even if they are skeptics, they have heard stories of ghosts and disembodied voices so that when they enter the tunnel and breathe in the gas, they too see what those before them have seen. Yes, essentially. I love the idea of these two guys walking into the tunnel and they're like, I mean, it looks like a totally normal tunnel to me.

I don't see anything crazy. Oh shit. Deep breath. Oh, fuck. Yeah, I mean, anything is possible. But I mean, I do like this style of ghost story, this kind of Onibi style of, you know, floating orbs and balls and things like that of light. I like that style of ghost. It's quite interesting or believable in some way.

Yeah, and the cool thing is usually when we have ghosts that appear in a story, we have to reach a point where we inevitably jump back a hundred years and find out where the ghosts came from, what their motive is. We kind of know what it is here because we talked about it. It's all of these people that have died

during the construction of this tunnel. Now we know that people just dying en masse in any location doesn't necessarily mean that location is gonna become haunted, but could these guys have stumbled onto some sort of paranormal site, whether it's a ley line crossing, or some reasoning behind why ghosts and paranormal activity

would be heightened in this specific area, we don't know. What I do know is that, you know, in cases like this where we have people hearing kind of disturbing, disembodied voices, you know, in something like a tunnel, kind of a cry from a soul of the past, not yet moved on to the next world. It always carries, as we say, this kind of a gravitas of like, you know, someone who's left behind

with unfinished business, but also the time period they're from kind of leans on this kind of like seriousness behind the whole thing. There's always a darkness and moodiness, a seriousness. And a little bit like the way just in old photographs, people were never smiling. You know, it kind of always seems like they're not having a good time. And I wonder if, you know, ghost sightings of the future in which we're the ghosts, our generation, a generation who

have had much easier lives, at least in the developed world, and are probably a lot kind of a sillier people later into their lives. I wonder if those ghost sightings will change at all. You know, I like to imagine that those disembodied voices will get a bit more colorful. Like someone someday will be like walking down a dark hallway and they'll hear the disembodied voice of like Fetty Wap. Right.

Just be like, Yeah baby. It's like, what was that? Turn the lantern around. 1738. What is happening? Yeah, ghosts are just going to be kind of cellular, I guess, in the future.

People grew up fast in the olden days. It's like any time you see those videos that are from like the BBC archives where they're like, we interview children about what the future was going to be like. And these little f***ing 12 year olds are in like a three piece suit with a pocket watch in their hands. And they're like, oh, you know, you just turned 11 today. What

do you think the future is going to be like? And he's like, well, I think the future is going to be quite peculiar, isn't it? I reckon that penny sweets will cost two shillings and, you know, working at the mines will take up most of the waking day. It's crazy. They're like old people already. It just reminded me of, I saw the other day, people sharing an ad. It was like an ad for like a bank account or something like that from like 1998. And it was like, it was trying to like paint a terrifying picture of the future and why you should like, uh, invest sensibly using the right bank. Yeah.

And they were like, scientists say that in the year 2030 lunch will cost $16. And people now are like, Oh my God, they were right. Hey, all I'm going to gonna say is don't worry this paranormal life we're investing properly in the future as I said this week we're going to purchase 30 to 40 happy meals from McDonald's in search of the rare Pokemon cards which we will seal immediately before we get ketchup on them yeah and then they will only grow in value exponentially I can assume yeah, I mean I'll have a couple fries Well, I'm gonna go to yeah, you always get a little hungry like while you're you know

You kind of like the hard days were at the box make sure everything is there a couple loose fries the bone Why do they always tip the chips in? Sorry fries. We can't go back to the Can't go back. We were doing so good. We can't go back to McDonald's. We're doing so good. We can't go back to McDonald's. Hey, I used to work in hospitality, you know, respect service workers, respect hospitality workers. They pack a lot of fries in a day though. Why do they, like it's surely for the two seconds it takes to carefully just plant, place the packet of fries in the thing. Nah, just upside down, pouring it in like a pack of salt.

Oh yeah. And then presumably shaking it up. Ben, some of my fries look like they were thrown in by a major league pitcher. They are slammed against that box. They were clocked at 180 miles per hour going into the box. Oh, you got McFlurries, you got McNuggets. How about you give a McF*** what happens to my fries when you put them in the box, Chief?

There's three fries in the little fry container and 85 fries just loose and cold on the base of the bag. That is a minor complaint. It's a minor complaint. We're getting distracted. Let's get back to the story. The stuff that really matters. On the 9th of February 1875, the first train went through the completed Hussack tunnel

25 years after construction started and almost 200 dead workers later. Yeah, this was to be clear, this was just construction back then. Yeah, this was probably a pretty responsible project, I would say. Only 200 dead workers? Yeah, like- Over 25 years? What is that? Someone do the math. It's a mere 10 deaths a year. Yeah, some of them were 35 anyway. They were bound to die at any second. Back in this time. Yeah, back in the day and to an extent today. I mean, if you look at the, let's say things like the World Cup in the Middle East, Qatar, kind of big builds like that in Saudi Arabia and stuff.

I mean, yeah, it takes a lot of deaths, sadly, to build these things. Yeah, still there's a ton of slave labor even today. I know reading about this case, it kind of reminded me of like those pictures you see, you know, the famous ones of like the New York, is it the New York construction guys on the steel beam? Yeah. Up in space. Back when men were men.

And these dudes are, they don't even have a rope around them. Yeah. Like they are just sitting on this thing eating a packed lunch, like in the middle of the sky. It's like zero gravity up there. It's crazy. I don't even know how the pickles are even staying in the bread. It's like, had we not invented fear yet? Like surely you were afraid.

Like it would be so embarrassing to be the one guy in that crew that's just like everyone else is like jumping between girders, like throwing sandwiches at each other and you're like shaking in and you're like Shaking in you're like you guys you guys taking a picture over there cool. Maybe we take it on the beam That's not floating we could take it on this beam We need it. We need a guy to take the picture right maybe I could be the golf There was a seagull past me. Oh, you know I'd be so jumpy if I was up there I'm fine with other guys are probably doing that shit. do too in school where they go, save your life. Oh my God, yeah.

They like push you off and they grab you. Yeah, do you remember a friend did that to me once when we were back home? He did the save your life thing where he grabs you, but he didn't grab me. And he just shoved me. And he didn't read. Ended your life.

He didn't realize, I was like walking on a wall, but he didn't realize on your life didn't realize I was like walking on a wall and But he didn't realize on the other side of the wall was not a floor It was just it was a cliff I just went saved your life shoved me and I disappeared and I went like I went down like two stories into a bush Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. I do remember that because I think the kid got into trouble, didn't they?

Yes. Yeah. It was kind of such a funny one for the teacher to be like, what were you thinking? They're like, I don't know. It's like, well, I obviously didn't really think that was going to happen. But I also did push him off a wall down like two stories.

Yeah, yeah. Didn't think that one through. Wasn't me, by the way. End your life. Different, different. End your life. The steel beams for, I don't know how that works, because I feel like here in London,

if you so much as went up to the top of a hill, if you went up Blackheath Yeah, and you're just like or like in Greenwich or something you're sat at the top of a hill It's windy and that's only up like 20 meters. Yeah, never mind being up like 2,000 feet. It's like was it not at least like Look at these dudes! That's crazy. I'm just looking at the picture now. That's crazy. And also the logistics.

I forgot that. One of them doesn't have a shirt on. How is it that warm? One of them is nips out on the girder. The logistics of, I didn't remember they're all on one beam. So they all had to shuffle along on their bums. Like you can imagine, imagine one of you is just like, I need the toilet.

It's like, all right, well, you go in for 20 lads to finish their sandwiches and then manually climb down like 500 meters to a toilet. That's wild. Unless you just piss off the bee. Okay, reading more about it, this was during the construction of the Rockefeller Center in Manhattan.

Apparently it was a staged photograph arranged as a publicity stunt. So I don't think it was just like a casual guys on their lunch break thing. But I think it was. But it is real. Yeah, I think. It's not Photoshop. They were sitting on a steel beam 850 feet above ground on the 69th floor of the near completed building.

Holy shit. So they must have just been like, they must have been like on the beam and then maybe like a crane lifted them up to like take the photo or something. I assume maybe it was that. Still insane. I'm happy to say that the deaths were not for nothing.

The tunnel did get used a lot. So in that sense, I guess it was a success. You can actually drive from Boston to New York pretty fast, so it's all good. I believe it is actually still in use today, although reports of ghost sightings and paranormal activity have died down. I guess it is harder to experience the paranormal when you are blasting past it in a train going 90 mph. That's just common sense.

However, I will say, during the 1970s, the tunnel's history became more popular amongst horror fans and paranormal investigators, many of whom visited the site to examine it for themselves. One of those investigators was Bernard Hastuba, a paranormal investigator who was skeptical of the claims made by the people who had visited the site, so he decided to walk the entire length of the tunnel in order to prove, once and for all, that it wasn't actually haunted. He went into the tunnel and was literally never seen again.

Yeah, because it's an active railway. Yes, at that time I think there were trains blasting through it. I've heard that the third rail is particularly haunted. I believe that is a true story. Paranormal Investigator went in the tunnel, never came out. I don't know if a train also went into the tunnel in the opposite direction, but yeah, pretty sad, pretty scary, pretty spooky stuff. Isn't it sad that in real life we have to sacrifice many men to build a tunnel, rather

than imagine we could just, hopefully in the future with the power of AI, we'll be able to just like in Looney Tunes, just paint a tunnel on a wall. To kill many men? No, to build the tunnel. I was like, we could kill those men way faster. Paint a fake tunnel and go straight into it. All you had to do was you would just paint it and then granted Wile E. Coyote thought he was gonna

trick Roadrunner to smashing into the thing, but Roadrunner would actually just, the tunnel was completely functional. That pretty much brings us to the modern day and completes our journey backwards through time into the creation and the long paranormal history of the Husak Tunnel. You're right, it was backwards through time and forwards and then backwards again and then forwards a couple of times.

A little bit all over the place. That's fun. Keep showing your toes. I actually really love this case. I think it's fun. I think, as I said, it's not just the idea of a location being haunted, but it's these very unique types of hauntings I find really interesting, which is hearing voices trying to lure you into the cave, seeing shadowy figures. And we're kind of left with this problem where we have to decide

did this location become haunted because all of these people died building the tunnel? Or did they actually tunnel themselves into some sort of paranormal area where the paranormal was amplified by the deaths of these people? It kind of reminds me of different cases we've covered before similar to one of my favorites and a crowd favorite which is the Money Pit. Hahaha, yeah. Do you remember the Money Pit episode? Yeah.

I'm trying to remember the island, Oak Island. The Oak Island Money Pit, where people believed that there was treasure buried for some reason on this island and people decided to just dig a hole forever and ever into the earth to the point where the hole was collapsing. People were dying every day and people decided the hole was cursed

instead of just taking accountability for the fact that there was no treasure and they really should have stopped digging a long time ago. Yeah, it definitely, it feels like an ancient Greek myth about human nature, but it actually is a thing that happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we're kind of left with those questions today as to whether or not we really believe that these deaths happened and these things were seen because this place was cursed or paranormal or whether or not we think the deaths were just caused by bad health and safety in olden days construction. That obviously wouldn't explain all the other things we talked about,

the disembodied voices, the floating figures, these skeptics coming from outside of the project and still having paranormal experiences. Yes, there may have been gas. Gas may have played a factor in today's story. But you know, I still think there's stuff to talk about here. Yeah, it is tough. I think there's lots of parallels. I think another parallel would be somewhere like the Edinburgh bolts. Yes.

Somewhere we investigated now, not only because they're dark and cavernous, but, um, but I think that's why I started going down this, this train of thought about. Train of thought. Nice dude. Nice. Who's that? What are we? Let's do more jokes about that

son of a bitch. Move on. You had it. But it made me think about this concept of priming because we sadly, as famous as the Edinburgh Vaults are and how seemingly, I mean the entire cottage industry based around exploring the haunted vaults, we ultimately decided we didn't think it was really paranormal. Based off of our own investigation, our location. And some of that comes back to these long-standing questions of priming this idea that is somewhere just haunted just because a lot of people say it is. If you hear enough stories, then you kind of come to expect a certain set of experiences.

Um, you know, I don't know if that's what's going on here, but there's definitely parallels there, the idea of kind of, these are spaces which lend themselves to paranormal sightings. They are so dark, you can barely see and you need lanterns in order to see. Uh, you had sort of extremely bad visibility. They said it's smoky, dark, freezing. Yeah. you can barely see and you need lanterns in order to see. So of extremely bad visibility, they said it's smoky, dark, freezing. Yeah, people are dying all around you. There are random explosions going off in every direction.

That's right. There's, I mean, not to mention the kind of unique acoustics of a cave system that's being dug away, creates kind of, would easily create bizarre auditory effects. You're going to hear things you would never normally hear in nature or in an indoor space. The sounds would echo around in very strange ways. Not even getting into the lack of oxygen and the potential for gas leaks. Well, they had a ventilation system. I just believe it exploded at one point.

So you know. It exploded and they were a little slow about replacing it. So that's all to it. It's not to say I don't believe it. I think it's actually pretty compelling, the kind of consistency of some of the reports. We definitely have all the ingredients for a delicious paranormal misunderstanding.

Yeah, not a hoax. No. But yes, a misunderstanding. I can definitely see that. Yeah. And I think we should take that into consideration. This isn't seeing a beheaded ghost at Disneyland, the happiest place on earth. This is seeing a shadowy figure inside of a cave in the 19, in the 1860s during horrible work times.

Um, and yes, that is an important part of today's story. I'm happy to kick things off in today's investigation. I think when it comes down on a conclusion, yes, there are a lot of reasons why the, this could have been misunderstandings. I like that, I like that term a lot, a paranormal misunderstanding. Because it doesn't blame you for the investigation whatsoever.

It doesn't blame me. And am I to blame at all, Kit? Because this week I'm giving it a yes. Ooh. I like this story. Very interesting. I like it a lot, I like the history. And I think we have enough consistent testimony from individual witnesses who are separated from the project and their own experiences to convince me there's something paranormal going on in this

tunnel. Whether or not that is the ghost of the workers that died there or whether that's the workers themselves uncovering some sort of paranormal activity as they dig deeper into this ancient mountain range. So I'm giving it a yes this week. Very interesting. I'm gonna controversially give it a no. Ooh! Can't say I didn't see that one coming.

Can't say you didn't see it coming. Hey, well, I'm happy for you because you goddamn son of a bitch have almost never given a yes on a ghost case. That's not true. But I'm pleased that there is another yes in the ghost realm, in the ghostly realm. You didn't wanna join me?

I felt, you know, did I feel a little hurt that, you know, I've brought ghost cases before with photo evidence and we didn't even need that today, apparently, for a yes? Sure it cost my mind but I don't know is there a gas leak in here? Maybe. Is that because actually it feels like hell is freezing over the fact that Roy's given a ghost case a yes and I haven't. You're like who's that guy sitting across from me? I don't recognize him. I hope he gets hit by a train. Yes, I would have loved to provide more photo evidence for today's case but

uh-oh 1860s. Had cameras. No f***ing cameras Hans! Oh yeah. They didn't have cameras. That's right. No they didn't. No they didn't I don't think. Oh mercy. But hey there you. Let us know what you think. This was a great case. The one photo I showed me today was of the New York construction workers sitting on a beam.

That was our one visual reference point. Love it. I have pictures of the Hussack tunnel, but it's just like nowadays. You know? So it's like not that interesting. That's the sad thing about old timey construction projects is like you build that tunnel and then people forever will be like, yeah, wasn't that always there?

It's like, no, a lot of guys died making that. It took 25 years to make that whole. Yeah, it's kind of, there is some kind of cool stuff online because they obviously have like I'm showing kit right now like a poster that was drawn up to promote the creation of the tunnel So you can kind of see like a proper old-timey flyer That's like the who's that tunnel as if it's like a big attraction, you know, yeah Yeah, that's cool. And it is fun whenever you investigate something kind of niche like this you do And it is fun whenever you investigate something kind of niche like this. You do accidentally end up also just learning a lot about this part of human history and the creation of these things. And it is quite interesting.

I mean, yeah, I mean, the railroad building era of American history is like the most brutal kind of crazy time for the immigrant communities who built the railways and worked on projects like this. But it's, it's so mad because it just, it also laid literally the foundation of the entire country. I mean, it happened all over the world. You know, it's, we take it for granted now that you could. I, I sent my mate this morning. I sent him like a, I just came across a bunch of old songs from our childhood. I sent him like 20 songs. It was just like, oh, this is funny.

What's your email? Yeah, I'll just bang it over there. Email them it. Whooooosh. The Mac makes that little noise when I hit send. A little send one. Whooooosh. Great noise.

Very satisfying little noise. Back then, the whooooosh was 30 years of construction. Hundreds of men died to send 20 songs by railway. That whoosh noise was, ah! That's what the noise should be to reflect the pain and suffering. Whenever you went to a post office in the 1800s, they were like, okay, so we could send it first class, that'll be 25 men dead, Or we could send it second class. That's only 15 dead men.

So that's kind of the price you have to pay right now. Cause it's people are going to die on this journey to get your little postcard over to your grandmother in Boston. That's, that's like a episode of black mirror. Yeah. Right. That's how long it takes with deaths instead of money. But it's true to simply get stuff from one place to the other.

Nice, easy, PC. So there you go. There you go. It's all easier. I really enjoyed this episode of the Who's Zack Tunnel. It's a yes from me. It's a no from Kit. But hey, let us know what you think.

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then you derailed me. So this month's bonus episode, the main one- Like a train, I get it. Yeah, true. Derailed. Nice, dude. This month's bonus episode- Just let me talk. No, you make me laugh, though.

I want you to know that. It's another mystery. Yeah, yeah. It's a mystery. It's a bit, sorry, you're just interjecting so minorly. Yeah, just enough to distract you. It's the tiniest bit. There's this- This month's bonus bit, sorry, you're just interjecting so minorly. Yeah. Just enough to distract you. It's the tiniest bit. This one's bonus episode, well, it's really last month.

It's the latest one is what I'm trying to say. It's really good. It is another paranormal mystery with some echoes of this in terms of is it poltergeist activity? Is it ghost activity? Is it some other paranormal phenomenon as As yet, undiscovered by science, it's also set in Italy, in Sicily, and me and Rory do full Italian accents for the entire episode. Mm, not the entire episode.

For the entire... The entire... ...portion of the episode. I used AI to change the bits where we spoke normally into an Italiano accent. Bad use of AI. Bad use of anything, of anyone's time's time as a bad idea, but it is a great episode I have listened to it and it is a fantastic one There's tons of episodes like that over on patreon along with after party episodes Which is a weekly show that we do where we talk about each case behind the scenes what goes into it

We talk about our verdicts. So that means this Friday, we're going to be talking about this case. Let's see if Kit's still alive after the no that he gave. We'll see if he makes it. I don't think it's a particularly controversial no. Maybe the cost of this episode was one guy. Was one dead guy. So if I were you Kit, I'd be a little...afraid. It's quite...

It really took me by surprise, so it's kind of good in that respect. You might want to start training now. Because I'm gonna kill you. Alright, yeah. So I lost it at the end there, but I needed to deliver that message. But you know who I'm not gonna kill? All the amazing people that support us on Patreon. And a lot of those people are supporting us on the shoutout tier,

which means you get your own personalized shoutout at the end of this episode of This Paranormal Life. That's what we're gonna do right now. So thank you to Josh Finlay. Josh Finlay is looking spindly. Kind of just Slender Man looking guy. Not a good guy, long limbs, long legs. That's funny that everyone wants to look like, like a model, like thin and gaunt

and have those like cheekbones, but no one wants to look spindly. Right. That's not never a compliment. It's a thin line. No one's like, hey, you look really spindly today. Yeah. You know?

So that's why you got to dress for your body shape, Josh. So we need to get you looking like Billie Eilish. All right? Not spindly Eilish. That's a very disturbing kind of alter ego. No, we're talking quintuple XL baseball jersey. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah.

Stuff that really just, I mean, it could backfire and you end up looking even more spindly, but I think it'll kind of, I think it'll make you end up looking more human and less alien. I like it. And Finley, of course, is an alien, so that will help. Thank you, Josh. Thank you to Matthias, or Mathias. I believe this individual is one of our younger listeners of the podcast. And I know what they're worried about. Am I old enough to join the paranormal commune? I'm very happy to say that as of this year, we are going to be beginning a long journey of railroad projects within the commune, of which there is really no limit in fact maybe we're

going a little too young yeah the commune was cheap because it's nothing but mountain we have when we're done there won't there'll barely be room to stand it'll be so many railroads it's nothing but mountain when we talk about the districts we're talking mostly about elevation. So people at the highest levels can barely breathe. They're so high in the sky. So yes, we are working on a system to make traveling a little bit easier. And hopefully Mathias, you can help us with that construction. Yeah, absolutely.

You are the worker of tomorrow. That will definitely still be here tomorrow to work on the railroads. Yeah, absolutely. You are the worker of tomorrow. That will definitely still be here tomorrow to work on the railroads. Thank you also to Caroline Diaz. Caroline is honestly just a pain in Diaz. Nice dude. You know, you give them a golden opportunity to build something great. A railroad system that connects the great mountains of the commune.

And all of a sudden they're like, where's all the water? Where water where's all the food listen Caroline we can't get you the water without the railways yeah all right sooner you finish it this video get a glass of water yeah so we're gonna look like they're gonna take and you'll get the train yeah and 25 years probably at this rate. Five months and 25 years. 25 years and 24 months! So two more years? Yeah! And thank you finally this week to Michael Belding. Michael

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